| 00:00.12 | purple_cow | darth_mall: i'd suggest asking zed what he thought about moving the autoload into the fe, and if so make a patch and give it to him |
| 00:00.22 | darth_mall | ok |
| 00:05.31 | purple_cow | haha, a 300x cdrom motor :) |
| 00:10.01 | darth_mall | hmmm... |
| 00:10.33 | purple_cow | liar! |
| 00:13.02 | darth_mall | this may not require patching the core at all |
| 00:13.21 | ChipX86 | gah, Regis is writing a book or something over there about my review request |
| 00:13.58 | file | it'll be okay |
| 00:15.17 | ChipX86 | St.Louis school board member running for mayor threatens suicide if not elected |
| 00:16.06 | darth_mall | purple_cow: so I found a way to tell the core not to load the plugins, but do we still want to patch? |
| 00:17.49 | purple_cow | darth_mall: if you can do it elegantly without a patch, no reason to patch |
| 00:17.53 | ChipX86 | meh, two other people have reviewed it saying it looks fine. Regis is still writing his book. |
| 00:17.58 | ChipX86 | and I'm stalled until it's done |
| 00:18.49 | darth_mall | I don't know if I'd call it 'elegant' but it's not messy, I don't think |
| 00:19.02 | darth_mall | just setting this global skip_plugins var to true |
| 00:19.05 | darth_mall | then it doesn't load them |
| 00:19.15 | darth_mall | I just kinda stuck it in fe_init() because that seemed to make sense |
| 00:19.25 | purple_cow | darth_mall: works for me |
| 00:19.37 | purple_cow | it's not "elegant", but it's not ugly either |
| 00:19.53 | CIA-6 | gnome: 03trowbrds * 10evolution/ (3 files in 2 dirs): * org-gnome-calendar-weather.eplug.in: fix typo |
| 00:20.54 | darth_mall | oh... so CIA-6 will show your commits, but not mine =\ |
| 00:21.06 | purple_cow | darth_mall: apache is clogged |
| 00:21.10 | darth_mall | rar! |
| 00:21.10 | purple_cow | gnome runs through a mail filter |
| 00:21.13 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 00:21.19 | darth_mall | so here's the next question |
| 00:21.37 | darth_mall | I'd like to set up our autoloading with a gconf key, recommendations on where to put the key? |
| 00:21.53 | ChipX86 | "Bug #10138: Frame buffer layout error gets my goat." |
| 00:22.04 | darth_mall | I'm thinking either /apps/xchat/irc or make a /apps/xchat/plugins |
| 00:22.06 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:22.11 | file | ChipX86: O.o |
| 00:22.17 | darth_mall | ChipX86: ;) |
| 00:22.34 | purple_cow | /apps/xchat/plugins/enabled ? |
| 00:22.46 | darth_mall | ok |
| 00:23.12 | purple_cow | darth_mall: might as well dictatate that plugins can use /apps/xchat/plugins/<name>/ as they wish |
| 00:23.14 | ChipX86 | file: there are fun gems in our bugzilla |
| 00:23.21 | CIA-6 | navi-misc: 03evan * r6518 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/fe-gnome.c: |
| 00:23.21 | CIA-6 | navi-misc: Found a way to stop the core loading plugins on its own |
| 00:23.21 | CIA-6 | navi-misc: without having to patch it. |
| 00:24.50 | ChipX86 | yay, the book has been published and I got the final draft |
| 00:26.12 | file | anything good? |
| 00:26.21 | ChipX86 | it's not too bad |
| 00:26.29 | kergoth | what book? |
| 00:27.03 | ChipX86 | the review of my patch :) |
| 00:27.46 | kergoth | ahh. hehe |
| 00:31.25 | ChipX86 | "You kick ass dude! You're knocking down all these bugs." |
| 00:36.59 | darth_mall | don't suppose anyone knows how to set a list type in a .schemas file for gconf do you? |
| 00:42.06 | pagefault_ | potato |
| 00:42.19 | file | taco |
| 00:42.48 | pagefault_ | tacolinux would make a good distribution name |
| 00:43.04 | file | you should make one |
| 00:43.12 | pagefault_ | I should but I wouldn't maintain it |
| 00:43.24 | file | oh well |
| 00:43.48 | darth_mall | grr |
| 00:43.54 | darth_mall | stupid gconf is pissing me off |
| 00:44.37 | file | pagefault_: how goeth it? |
| 00:46.13 | pagefault_ | sick |
| 00:46.40 | file | well that sux |
| 00:47.26 | pagefault_ | yeah |
| 00:52.59 | purple_cow | well that was fun |
| 00:53.27 | purple_cow | but yay for the kitchen being usable again |
| 00:55.08 | purple_cow | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:58.46 | scanline | boing |
| 00:59.06 | scanline | crunk |
| 01:00.23 | scanline | nooooooooooooooooooo |
| 01:00.41 | purple_cow | scanline: you could come home ^^ |
| 01:01.14 | scanline | purple_cow: I drew this diagram on the whiteboard here that I want to copy into inkscape |
| 01:01.31 | scanline | but first I have to emerge it |
| 01:03.46 | scanline | bleh, slow... |
| 01:03.55 | purple_cow | heh |
| 01:04.00 | darth_mall | ~cpr scanline |
| 01:04.03 | jbot | scanline: <smoochu> :-* |
| 01:04.04 | purple_cow | they're driving through SF with a coffin in the back of their trunk :) |
| 01:04.13 | purple_cow | what a cool show |
| 01:06.53 | CIA-6 | zsnes: 03pagefault * 10zsnes/src/endmem.asm: .data was not aligned, probably causing weird bugs |
| 01:07.37 | darth_mall | what the hell |
| 01:11.30 | pagefault_ | I give up tryign to explain assembly to C++ people |
| 01:11.59 | pagefault_ | completely obilvious to how a computer works |
| 01:12.02 | darth_mall | having conquered gconf I now prepare for capoeira |
| 01:12.22 | darth_mall | purple_cow: it looks like our plugin autoloading will be in 0.3 ^^ |
| 01:12.22 | pagefault_ | "it compiles and runs so it must be all good!" |
| 01:12.31 | purple_cow | darth_mall: shiny |
| 01:14.18 | darth_mall | and I bet lurgy will be glad that it doesn't autoload the url scraper on his machine |
| 01:21.19 | pagefault_ | HELLO WORLD |
| 01:21.35 | file | where's this 'world' you speak of |
| 01:21.50 | pagefault_ | outside |
| 01:21.51 | ChipX86 | over there, behind the trees! |
| 01:21.59 | file | ooh outside |
| 01:22.02 | file | how foreign |
| 01:22.21 | CIA-6 | navi-misc: 03evan * r6520 10xchat-gnome/plugins/url_scraper/ (urlscraper.c urlscraper.schemas.in.in): Move the url scraper's gconf stuff to /apps/xchat/plugins/urlscraper/ |
| 01:22.37 | purple_cow | wow, darth_mall's committing things even while he's standing in front of the TV! |
| 01:22.51 | file | purple_cow: he's very productive |
| 01:23.31 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 01:24.24 | pagefault_ | this song is weird |
| 01:24.32 | pagefault_ | the lyrics are "everyone needs a bossom for a pillow" |
| 01:24.56 | purple_cow | well, it's true |
| 01:25.00 | pagefault_ | yeah |
| 01:25.01 | file | indeed |
| 01:25.07 | pagefault_ | but it's just funny to write a song about it |
| 01:26.19 | ChipX86 | ooh speaking of weird songs |
| 01:26.24 | ChipX86 | American Idol is on tonight |
| 01:27.13 | pagefault_ | ooh bad singing |
| 01:27.23 | ChipX86 | I watch it for the auditions :D |
| 01:27.32 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 01:27.38 | pagefault_ | yeah |
| 01:27.42 | ChipX86 | slashdot is reporting that XM and Sirius might merge |
| 01:27.46 | ChipX86 | good thing they finally posted that |
| 01:27.55 | ChipX86 | it's only been about 8 hours since the rumors were put down to die |
| 01:28.10 | ChipX86 | (they're not merging, but I guess slashdot didn't investigat ethat) |
| 01:28.43 | pagefault | EA makes me sick |
| 01:28.47 | pagefault | they make a profit |
| 01:28.51 | pagefault | and they lay off people |
| 01:30.24 | pagefault | you are lucky you work at vmware ChipX86 |
| 01:30.28 | pagefault | it sounds like a very nice place to work |
| 01:30.30 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 01:30.31 | ChipX86 | it is |
| 01:30.36 | ChipX86 | ooh |
| 01:30.52 | pagefault | with any luck I will be working at IBM when I graduate |
| 01:31.16 | ChipX86 | Caffe Carrello will be setting up shop here for the 3rd for a few hours. Free lattes, cappuccinos, mochas, and other things |
| 01:31.25 | pagefault | well I have my foot in the door already |
| 01:33.08 | purple_cow | ChipX86: cool |
| 01:33.20 | pagefault | ooh free coffee |
| 01:34.10 | kergoth | re |
| 01:34.24 | kergoth | yay home. |
| 01:35.09 | nullpuppy | yay |
| 01:37.15 | lurgy | yay for being home and stuff |
| 01:40.11 | CIA-6 | zsnes: 03pagefault * 10zsnes/src/cpu/dspproc.asm: This stuff should be aligned too |
| 01:41.14 | hardwire | scanline: I need 10Bt to RS-232 |
| 01:41.22 | hardwire | have you run acrossed anything canned that can do that? |
| 01:42.45 | CIA-6 | zsnes: 03pagefault * 10zsnes/src/cpu/dspproc.asm: Fix some strange NASM parser error |
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| 01:43.28 | Laser_Dolphin | Hello all |
| 01:43.30 | zak_ | darth_mall: are you present? |
| 01:43.37 | zak_ | lurgy? scanline? |
| 01:43.38 | Laser_Dolphin | There is a new document in /navi/incoming you all should read |
| 01:43.40 | zak_ | purple_cow: |
| 01:43.42 | kergoth | booooooreed |
| 01:43.52 | Laser_Dolphin | it is entitled, 'Matt_Calovich_is_a_dumbass.doc' |
| 01:44.05 | Laser_Dolphin | kergoth: the solution to your bordem is this document |
| 01:44.11 | zak_ | kergoth: you'll love this...it is the ture embodiment of american idiot |
| 01:44.15 | Laser_Dolphin | kergoth: you'll laugh your ass off for days |
| 01:44.16 | Laser_Dolphin | I am |
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| 01:45.20 | purple_cow | scanline is here too |
| 01:45.42 | Laser_Dolphin | purple_cow and scanline you all need ot read the new file in /navi/incoming |
| 01:45.44 | purple_cow | zak_: if you're local you may want to come by |
| 01:45.48 | purple_cow | they're building a chicken gun |
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| 01:45.52 | Laser_Dolphin | purple_cow: nope, we're in the ITLL |
| 01:46.14 | Laser_Dolphin | explain this chicken gun b/c Boeing already built one for airplane tests |
| 01:46.15 | purple_cow | bah, .doc? |
| 01:46.20 | Laser_Dolphin | Sorry purple_cow |
| 01:46.21 | purple_cow | PEDESTRIANS! |
| 01:46.23 | Laser_Dolphin | that's how I had it |
| 01:46.31 | Laser_Dolphin | me |
| 01:46.33 | purple_cow | Laser_Dolphin: they're testing the difference between frozen and thawed chickens |
| 01:46.43 | Laser_Dolphin | That's what a British company did |
| 01:46.46 | zak_ | frozen chickens break guns |
| 01:46.57 | Laser_Dolphin | Their jet engines failed when they used the frozen Purdue chicken |
| 01:47.07 | purple_cow | Laser_Dolphin: well, the myth is that there was a frozen chicken |
| 01:47.15 | lurgy | zak: yep? |
| 01:47.27 | lurgy | zak: what's all this then? |
| 01:47.58 | zak_ | lurgy: you saw it |
| 01:48.04 | zak_ | we posted the thing we made you read :) |
| 01:48.05 | lurgy | zak: ah, righto |
| 01:48.10 | lurgy | :) |
| 01:48.11 | zak_ | it's in /navi/incoming |
| 01:50.23 | laodamas | othgir |
| 01:50.36 | Laser_Dolphin | zak_: time to go home |
| 01:50.50 | CIA-6 | zsnes: 03pagefault * 10zsnes/src/video/newgfx.asm: Fix another alignment problem |
| 01:50.52 | CIA-6 | zsnes: 03pagefault * 10zsnes/src/video/newgfx.asm: Misc formatting adjustment, I am a picky person :) |
| 01:51.05 | purple_cow | what a fantastically cool show |
| 01:51.15 | Laser_Dolphin | purple_cow: chicken gun or file in /navi/incoming? |
| 01:51.38 | purple_cow | is a .doc a show? |
| 01:51.54 | Laser_Dolphin | purple_cow: this is |
| 01:54.16 | purple_cow | hahahaha |
| 01:54.19 | purple_cow | chicken cartridges |
| 01:55.58 | laodamas | this spam is rather amusing |
| 01:56.00 | laodamas | "The Antidote is a unique Anti-Microbial Peptide offering the wildest range of healing power on the market today." |
| 01:56.25 | purple_cow | wow |
| 01:56.40 | purple_cow | they just shot a chicken through quarter-inch lexan |
| 01:57.04 | pagefault | CIA web interface b0rk? |
| 01:59.18 | purple_cow | wow |
| 01:59.40 | purple_cow | i've never seen chickens fly so fast |
| 02:00.10 | zak_ | did you guys read it yet? |
| 02:00.11 | purple_cow | ``it's like trying to tell the difference between a .22 and a 357 by shooting it at a cardboard box'' |
| 02:00.33 | purple_cow | zak_: not yet |
| 02:06.56 | purple_cow | rofl |
| 02:07.07 | purple_cow | a 630rpm washing machine |
| 02:09.26 | lurgy | hehe |
| 02:10.10 | pagefault | what show is this? |
| 02:10.14 | purple_cow | mythbusters |
| 02:10.18 | pagefault | oh |
| 02:11.04 | pagefault | cool it's on at 10 tonight for me |
| 02:11.13 | purple_cow | it's hilarious :) |
| 02:11.41 | pagefault | hehe |
| 02:17.47 | purple_cow | hah, cool |
| 02:17.57 | purple_cow | there's absolutely no difference between frozen and thawed chickens :) |
| 02:19.28 | purple_cow | man |
| 02:19.35 | purple_cow | i wish i had the opportunity to destroy stuff like that |
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| 02:34.31 | lurgy | sweet |
| 02:34.58 | file | peaches |
| 02:35.06 | lurgy | looks like there are plans for civ4 to use python as its scripting language |
| 02:35.14 | purple_cow | wow |
| 02:35.28 | purple_cow | there's a scale model of the SF bay that fully replicates tidal motion :) |
| 02:38.26 | purple_cow | ooh, cute duckies |
| 02:38.44 | purple_cow | ``don't let their looks decieve you, they're actually quite deadly'' |
| 03:04.09 | pagefault | haw |
| 03:04.14 | pagefault | he is going to hang onto a piece of plywood and jump off a building to see if he can fly |
| 03:23.43 | purple_cow | making eggs on good nonstick cookware is such a beautiful thing |
| 03:27.55 | purple_cow | this show is making me want to do things like ToyKeeper's tater-tot pistols |
| 03:34.54 | ToyKeeper | :D |
| 03:35.48 | ChipX86 | http://www.thinkgeek.com/cubegoodies/toys/71bc/ |
| 03:35.50 | ChipX86 | awesome. |
| 03:37.17 | purple_cow | sweet |
| 03:37.35 | ChipX86 | http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/generic/724a/ |
| 03:37.35 | ChipX86 | awwww |
| 03:37.57 | nullpuppy | hahaha, thats awesome |
| 03:41.16 | ChipX86 | http://www.thinkgeek.com/cubegoodies/toys/722a/ |
| 03:44.00 | nullpuppy | haha, you could have your own Office Space |
| 03:44.02 | nullpuppy | :) |
| 03:46.26 | ChipX86 | I need to replace the fan in athena. I can hear it from the living room |
| 03:47.15 | pagefault | poor pc |
| 03:49.02 | file | ChipX86 is abusing his PCs! |
| 03:49.11 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 03:49.12 | file | I wonder if they'll have a court case against him |
| 03:49.30 | scanline | http://flapjack.navi.cx/monitor/diskio/io_status.html |
| 03:49.47 | ChipX86 | wow |
| 03:50.02 | scanline | the outage earlier this morning was when the restarter script died for some reason |
| 03:50.12 | scanline | but the rest is just disk I/O crumminess making it slow |
| 03:50.33 | file | UML just has sucky disk IO... it's rather sad :\ |
| 03:50.47 | scanline | file: it's not really UML's fault, CIA needs more optimization |
| 03:50.54 | file | nah I blame UML |
| 03:51.03 | file | it got to the point on cerebrum where pagefault and I had to wait for simple stuff to be executed |
| 03:51.07 | file | CPU wasn't being used or anything |
| 03:51.27 | file | made me sad ;( |
| 03:52.45 | pagefault | yeah it sucked |
| 03:54.56 | ChipX86 | hmm, should eat |
| 03:55.08 | ChipX86 | or call Jamie |
| 03:55.32 | file | ChipX86: or code |
| 03:56.10 | ChipX86 | yes |
| 03:56.12 | ChipX86 | code will happen tonight |
| 03:56.20 | file | silly timezones |
| 03:56.45 | pagefault | do both |
| 03:56.53 | ChipX86 | wow |
| 03:56.56 | file | all three actually |
| 03:57.00 | file | code, call Jamie, and eat! |
| 03:57.07 | ChipX86 | I feel bad for anybody who gets their girlfriend the 411 Length Required panties from thinkgeek |
| 03:57.09 | file | multitask like you've never multitasked before |
| 03:57.36 | pagefault | what about if the girlfriend gets them for the boyfriend |
| 03:57.41 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 04:01.20 | pagefault | so many shirts I want |
| 04:04.34 | pagefault | the 413 ones are funny |
| 04:04.43 | pagefault | panties I mean |
| 04:11.34 | ChipX86 | I had a dream where |
| 04:11.38 | ChipX86 | I was in an infinite |
| 04:11.41 | ChipX86 | loop, then the next night |
| 04:15.10 | pagefault | haha |
| 04:15.27 | ChipX86 | wish i was that clever |
| 04:15.50 | ChipX86 | I want to think up one now |
| 04:16.07 | ChipX86 | ok, so Jamie call done. Now eat time. |
| 04:17.52 | file | ChipX86: very very silly |
| 04:26.12 | nullpuppy | yay home |
| 04:26.20 | file | yay nullpuppy |
| 04:39.17 | kergoth | yay jon stewart |
| 04:44.05 | purple_cow | yep, i think i need to do a tater-tot gun |
| 04:44.30 | scanline | a USB tater-tot gun |
| 04:44.35 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 04:44.44 | darth_mall | why would you waste good tater-tots as ammo? |
| 04:44.52 | purple_cow | scanline: i'll let you handle the auto-targetting |
| 04:44.53 | darth_mall | tater-tots are for eating because they're sooooooooooooooo tasty |
| 04:44.56 | scanline | darth_mall: we'd use education-grade tater tots |
| 04:45.01 | file | kergoth: you need a USB drink mixer upper device |
| 04:45.19 | purple_cow | darth_mall: it's more of a conceptual tater-tot |
| 04:45.26 | purple_cow | pint size potato gun |
| 04:46.47 | darth_mall | right... but my point remains: potatoes are tasty |
| 04:47.10 | file | darth_mall: I agree with you |
| 04:47.49 | scanline | darth_mall: tater-tots of the quality we'd shoot aren't potatoes |
| 04:48.27 | darth_mall | it's really difficult to ruin something that fried |
| 04:49.08 | scanline | you need to try the kind where the FDA won't let you put "potato" anywhere on the packaging |
| 04:50.25 | purple_cow | yay, they're building the panty-static generator |
| 04:50.39 | darth_mall | now I want tater-tots for dinner |
| 04:50.40 | scanline | yep |
| 04:57.48 | kergoth | ~emulate stewie |
| 04:57.49 | jbot | I come bearing a gift. I'll give you a hint. It's in my diaper, and it's not a toaster. |
| 04:58.15 | purple_cow | this is also making me nostalgic for the days of random handmade model rockets |
| 05:12.03 | CIA-6 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r845 10doc-misc/ (mck-charts/ mck-lecture-notes): Start some notes for the lecture Cory and I plan on giving Friday on our software |
| 05:13.10 | scanline | hey look, CIA isn't laggy |
| 05:14.37 | nullpuppy | yay |
| 05:14.51 | scanline | seems to be a daily cycle :P |
| 05:15.05 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 05:16.09 | ChipX86 | hmm, The West Wing's lighting is darker lately |
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| 05:17.34 | ChipX86 | Josh looks really old |
| 05:28.21 | ChipX86 | this show is such crap |
| 05:28.29 | ChipX86 | this is sad |
| 05:44.15 | nullpuppy | what show? |
| 05:47.01 | darth_mall | lurgy: needs a cat named spot |
| 05:48.58 | ChipX86 | nullpuppy: the newer episodes of The West Wing |
| 05:49.04 | nullpuppy | ah |
| 05:49.06 | ChipX86 | they absolutely trashed the series |
| 05:49.12 | ChipX86 | the president is practically a criplle |
| 05:49.14 | ChipX86 | er, cripple |
| 05:49.18 | ChipX86 | Leo's unhealthy |
| 05:49.22 | darth_mall | oh crip, a crapple |
| 05:49.35 | ChipX86 | Josh and Donna hate each other. Donna quit.. Josh is off trying to get some new guy elected |
| 05:49.41 | ChipX86 | there's no humor anymore |
| 05:49.50 | ChipX86 | the lighting style they use is very dark and saturated |
| 05:50.16 | ChipX86 | to try to make any part of it interesting, they had an episode where an asteroid was headed to earth.. |
| 05:50.24 | darth_mall | oh |
| 05:50.29 | darth_mall | was Ben Affleck in it? |
| 05:50.34 | ChipX86 | nope |
| 05:50.37 | darth_mall | pff |
| 05:50.39 | darth_mall | what's the point then? |
| 05:52.21 | rioter | haha |
| 05:54.11 | ChipX86 | darth_mall: exactly! |
| 05:54.19 | darth_mall | ChipX86: exactly! |
| 06:10.09 | darth_mall | my car needs structural integrity fields |
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| 06:14.45 | purple_cow | yay, laundry money |
| 06:18.32 | lurgy | yay |
| 06:18.58 | lurgy | purple_cow: did you ever make it to the grocery store last night? |
| 06:20.12 | lurgy | heh |
| 06:20.15 | lurgy | nm then :) |
| 06:32.39 | purple_cow | zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzing is for chumps |
| 06:41.41 | purple_cow | hrm, bobby mcferrin is tomorrow =P |
| 06:41.42 | purple_cow | whoops |
| 07:06.46 | lurgy | mm |
| 07:06.54 | lurgy | cottage cheese with pineapple chunks in |
| 07:07.00 | lurgy | and 'nilla wafers |
| 07:07.16 | lurgy | breakfast of champions |
| 07:07.27 | purple_cow | tasty |
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| 07:46.13 | purple_cow | http://rawstory.com/news/2005/index.php?p=7 |
| 07:46.47 | ChipX86 | great. |
| 07:52.17 | ChipX86 | yay futurama alternate reality |
| 08:15.31 | rioter | you guys have no placebo on navi :| |
| 08:20.58 | kergoth | i have 6 of placebo's cds on my box atm |
| 08:21.02 | kergoth | need some? |
| 08:21.02 | kergoth | heh |
| 08:21.07 | rioter | nah i found the song i was after |
| 08:21.16 | kergoth | ah, k |
| 08:21.20 | kergoth | what song, out of curiosity? |
| 08:22.06 | rioter | english summer rain |
| 08:23.01 | kergoth | ah |
| 08:27.23 | ChipX86 | must get up the motivation to code |
| 08:35.19 | ChipX86 | my neighbors need to move. Getting loud at 00:35 is not acceptable |
| 08:35.31 | ChipX86 | they're screaming "whooooooo!" |
| 08:37.20 | purple_cow | =/ |
| 08:40.58 | rioter | haha never move in near me then |
| 08:48.20 | ChipX86 | shit |
| 08:48.30 | purple_cow | ? |
| 08:48.36 | ChipX86 | I just lost a bunch of stuff |
| 08:49.19 | purple_cow | :( |
| 08:50.28 | ChipX86 | oh, no I didn't. "Uploading" != "Deleting" |
| 08:50.28 | ChipX86 | phew |
| 08:50.28 | purple_cow | heh |
| 08:50.28 | ChipX86 | now the question is, why weren't these there before |
| 08:53.03 | ChipX86 | http://www.deviantart.com/view/9487349/ |
| 08:53.04 | ChipX86 | wow |
| 08:53.18 | ChipX86 | that was done in inkscape |
| 08:53.41 | ChipX86 | oh, Klowner. No wonder. |
| 08:56.00 | purple_cow | time for my favorite activity |
| 08:56.11 | ChipX86 | nude sunbathing? |
| 08:56.16 | purple_cow | sleeping |
| 08:56.21 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 08:56.25 | ChipX86 | that's good too |
| 08:57.39 | purple_cow | oof, bad gtkspell |
| 08:57.52 | purple_cow | it doesn't have words like "refactor", "prefs" or "EPlugin" in its dictionary |
| 08:58.28 | CIA-6 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6521 10evo/publish-calendar/ (publish-calendar.c url-editor-dialog.c url-editor-dialog.h): hey look, progress! |
| 09:02.30 | ChipX86 | g'night |
| 09:25.00 | ToyKeeper | <efm_> battlestar cat laxative |
| 09:25.00 | ToyKeeper | <rise> That's gone beyond "I don't want to know" into "I want _not_ to know". |
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| 15:23.34 | kergoth | morning |
| 15:23.49 | slimspace | morning kergoth |
| 15:24.06 | scanline | huh.. my little CIA restarter script died again |
| 15:24.47 | scanline | I suppose I could make it a cron job instead of a shell script loop |
| 15:43.56 | darth_mall | I hate the world for making me get up in the morning |
| 15:50.42 | darth_mall | mornin' lurgy |
| 15:50.51 | scanline | darth_mall: you and your 'world'... |
| 15:51.05 | darth_mall | scanline: no! you and -your- 'world'! |
| 15:52.55 | scanline | hmm... |
| 15:52.57 | scanline | tomorrow I get paid |
| 15:54.35 | darth_mall | right now! |
| 15:54.44 | scanline | yay |
| 15:57.00 | slimspace | yay, the dependency tracker can now retry applies |
| 15:57.11 | scanline | the dependency tracker? |
| 15:57.26 | slimspace | well, more accurately the change list. |
| 15:57.29 | scanline | yay |
| 15:57.46 | slimspace | It can do it based on max number of retries, or maximum amount of time to use, or both. |
| 15:57.46 | scanline | slimspace: I started some notes last night for this lecture-thingy |
| 15:57.53 | slimspace | yeah, I noticed. Looking good. |
| 15:58.05 | darth_mall | we need to teach Cx to make coffee |
| 15:58.09 | scanline | yes |
| 15:58.13 | slimspace | mmm, yeah... |
| 15:58.26 | scanline | you could probably modify the HOPs to do that |
| 15:59.23 | scanline | slimspace: not committed yet? |
| 15:59.34 | slimspace | working on it. I want to clean it up a bit first. |
| 15:59.39 | scanline | ah, no problem |
| 15:59.43 | scanline | I was just curious why I wasn't seeing it |
| 15:59.49 | scanline | take your time |
| 15:59.52 | slimspace | :) |
| 15:59.55 | scanline | I should really find some socks... |
| 16:00.41 | scanline | slimspace: we need to modify PyMCK.Test to also search for test modules elsewhere, like in Cx.Test :) |
| 16:00.59 | scanline | slimspace: test cases for the mission itself would be a great way to simulate failures and make sure it responds correctly |
| 16:01.14 | slimspace | hmm...good idea. |
| 16:01.18 | scanline | could probably just give test.py an optional 'project' parameter |
| 16:02.01 | scanline | isn't it basically the FMEA guys' job to come up with test cases for the mission? |
| 16:02.28 | slimspace | yeah, it is |
| 16:02.33 | slimspace | == MOPS |
| 16:02.45 | darth_mall | we should be heading out |
| 16:02.55 | scanline | k |
| 16:03.17 | CIA-6 | spacegrant: 03maccarro * r846 10mck/PyMCK/ (Change.py Hardware/Micronet/Entity.py): Some fixes in Entity, and the new ability to retry failed requests. |
| 16:03.21 | slimspace | there ya go |
| 16:04.40 | slimspace | hmm, just thought of something... |
| 16:04.53 | slimspace | Do we want the whole apply event to be timed, or individual failures? |
| 16:06.09 | slimspace | I'm thinking individual failures |
| 16:06.50 | lurgy | hmm |
| 16:07.37 | gonkulator | oops |
| 16:07.48 | pagefault | greetings |
| 16:08.10 | lurgy | morning gonkulator |
| 16:11.13 | gonkulator | hwody lurgy |
| 16:16.27 | slimspace | ~yow |
| 16:21.13 | CIA-6 | spacegrant: 03maccarro * r847 10mck/PyMCK/Change.py: update some docstrings |
| 16:24.48 | gonkulator | ~yow |
| 16:25.02 | gonkulator | eeew |
| 16:25.06 | gonkulator | housecat... |
| 16:32.29 | darth_mall | yay boring crappy classes |
| 16:33.07 | scanline | OMG, homework! |
| 16:33.16 | scanline | the world doth end! |
| 16:33.26 | darth_mall | lol |
| 16:33.35 | darth_mall | poor purple_cow |
| 16:33.36 | scanline | there are no outlets, only batteries! |
| 16:33.44 | darth_mall | purple_cow: you'd be better off bringing the c700 |
| 16:33.48 | purple_cow | nooooooooooo |
| 16:33.55 | darth_mall | lol |
| 16:34.05 | slimspace | and all |
| 16:34.26 | purple_cow | err |
| 16:34.32 | purple_cow | scanline: why isn't your battery in this laptop? |
| 16:34.36 | darth_mall | slimspace: your irc colours scare me |
| 16:34.45 | slimspace | darth_mall: me too... |
| 16:35.09 | darth_mall | purple_cow: his battery is busy being useful in his useful crapple product |
| 16:35.29 | scanline | purple_cow: feel free to borrow it |
| 16:35.56 | purple_cow | i will, dammit! |
| 16:36.33 | purple_cow | ugh |
| 16:36.39 | purple_cow | 20% drain in 5 minutes |
| 16:37.57 | scanline | ugh, what an awful time for my nose to re-clog-up |
| 16:38.11 | darth_mall | no, it's perfect! snort loudly and it'll get on the video =D |
| 16:38.13 | slimspace | isn't this stuff more suited for the 'software engineering methods' class? |
| 16:38.21 | darth_mall | slimspace: ya |
| 16:38.31 | scanline | slimspace: but that was a shell scripting class, so they had to put this material somewhere |
| 16:38.39 | slimspace | scanline: :) |
| 16:39.43 | darth_mall | "this is an old fashioned gun, just a point and click interface" |
| 16:40.03 | scanline | :) |
| 16:40.19 | scanline | silly class, assuming that software only interacts with people or other software.... |
| 16:40.42 | slimspace | what does any of this have to do with OO design? |
| 16:40.44 | scanline | I guess most software people would rather not acknowledge the existence of hardware |
| 16:40.57 | scanline | slimspace: mmmmmyep |
| 16:41.18 | kergoth | hmm |
| 16:41.29 | kergoth | the __all__ variable isnt doing anything in my python package |
| 16:41.41 | kergoth | dir() still shows things i didnt list in it, and i can access them |
| 16:42.03 | scanline | __all__ only matters when you "from foo import *" |
| 16:42.09 | kergoth | aha |
| 16:42.24 | kergoth | i hate from foo import * |
| 16:42.27 | scanline | yeah |
| 16:42.30 | kergoth | polluting my namespace! |
| 16:42.31 | kergoth | bad! |
| 16:43.05 | scanline | hmm |
| 16:43.11 | scanline | I should upgrade my xchat-gnome and set up URL scraper |
| 16:43.12 | purple_cow | sigh |
| 16:43.38 | scanline | purple_cow: ARE YOU READY TO PARTY??? |
| 16:43.46 | purple_cow | scanline: absolutely |
| 16:44.09 | purple_cow | time to upgrade my kernel to a more-hal-0.4.5-friendly version |
| 16:44.57 | scanline | grr |
| 16:45.08 | scanline | he's actually disappointed that we're going to use a realistic example? |
| 16:45.57 | gonkulator | hahahaha, academia |
| 16:46.40 | scanline | hi gonkulator |
| 16:47.40 | darth_mall | aren't use cases more of a Software Eng. Methods thing? |
| 16:47.51 | scanline | darth_mall: no, that was a tcsh class |
| 16:48.03 | scanline | so this is actually the software engineering class |
| 16:48.12 | scanline | and they probably stuck the real OOP class in UI design or something |
| 16:48.20 | purple_cow | ooh, cool |
| 16:48.37 | purple_cow | i never noticed that linux had packet writing support for IDE CDRW drives now |
| 16:48.41 | kergoth | scanline: what's the best way to _actually_ limit what in a package you can get to? use a singleton of a class and make the functions just call those methods? |
| 16:48.55 | kergoth | bleh, need caffeeine |
| 16:48.56 | purple_cow | goddammit! |
| 16:48.59 | scanline | kergoth: there's no way to actually limit what you can get to in python |
| 16:49.05 | purple_cow | i already *took* software engineering |
| 16:49.07 | kergoth | hrmph |
| 16:49.08 | scanline | kergoth: if you really don't want something in your namespace, you can just 'del' it |
| 16:49.16 | purple_cow | and i had an instructor who taught all this stuff |
| 16:49.16 | scanline | kergoth: but there's always a way to reach an object |
| 16:49.17 | kergoth | nod |
| 16:49.38 | darth_mall | it seems like use cases aren't OOP specific design techniques |
| 16:49.39 | darth_mall | that's cool, I was gonna take UI design anyway ^^ |
| 16:49.44 | pagefault | WoW has the worst installer ever made |
| 16:49.55 | scanline | I think I learned more about software engineering from listening to #fresco than I have from school |
| 16:50.03 | kergoth | guess if i want data hiding i should be using classes for that, not python packages/modules |
| 16:50.06 | kergoth | heh |
| 16:50.13 | pagefault | it should not take an hour to install 4 cds over a 100mbit network |
| 16:51.33 | darth_mall | scanline and I are gouging out my eyes for amusement |
| 16:52.12 | scanline | ooh, xchat has lots of fuzzies |
| 16:53.55 | darth_mall | wow, what a great story |
| 16:54.58 | gonkulator | hey scanline, sorry for the slow response |
| 16:55.23 | scanline | gonkulator: no apology for you! |
| 16:55.26 | scanline | or... |
| 16:55.28 | scanline | hello! |
| 16:56.16 | gonkulator | : |
| 16:57.02 | scanline | hmm.. my battery is going all flashey |
| 16:58.10 | scanline | io_count=675447887 io_rate=0 io_tokens=63455 token_refill=1024 token_max=800000 |
| 16:58.10 | scanline | m |
| 16:58.12 | scanline | =( |
| 16:58.13 | scanline | poor CIA |
| 16:59.42 | CIA-6 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r848 10mck/PyMCK/Hardware/Micronet/Entity.py: Initialize SequencedReader with a real mnet instance, not the string "micronet". This is just a nitpick, but we want to serialize access to a particular micronet instance not micronets in general. |
| 17:00.22 | scanline | yay laggy |
| 17:00.36 | slimspace | ..? Did I really pass "micronet" to it? |
| 17:00.44 | slimspace | oh |
| 17:00.44 | slimspace | right |
| 17:00.45 | slimspace | nm |
| 17:01.52 | scanline | like I said, just a nitpick |
| 17:02.01 | scanline | and I found a spelling mistake that CIA's still crunching on ;) |
| 17:02.13 | slimspace | a good one though. I wasn't quite sure of the purpose of that until then. |
| 17:03.19 | scanline | yeah. it's just to emphasize that it isn't sequencing reads globally, but sequencing simultaneous access to some shared resource3 |
| 17:03.24 | scanline | in this case, it's a particular micronet instance |
| 17:03.38 | scanline | in dino, that would be an rcpod |
| 17:04.16 | slimspace | right |
| 17:05.08 | gonkulator | later scanline, slimspace |
| 17:05.20 | gonkulator | darthmall: don't pay too much attention! |
| 17:06.04 | scanline | ooh, expander |
| 17:06.10 | CIA-6 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r849 10mck/PyMCK/Hardware/Micronet/Entity.py: Spelling: microcontroller has two 'l's |
| 17:06.45 | slimspace | hehe, oops |
| 17:06.53 | scanline | darth_mall: quick, a URL! |
| 17:07.48 | scanline | darth_mall: quick, a URL! |
| 17:07.53 | scanline | oooh |
| 17:07.57 | darth_mall | http://stewped.com |
| 17:07.58 | scanline | #bzflag beat ya to it |
| 17:07.59 | scanline | yay |
| 17:13.04 | scanline | slimspace: there are far too many parameters in those retry callbacks. Maybe we need a separate object to represent retries? |
| 17:13.21 | slimspace | I was thinking that might be good. |
| 17:14.07 | scanline | I can do it |
| 17:14.10 | slimspace | ok |
| 17:14.15 | scanline | if my battery holds out |
| 17:14.20 | slimspace | ^^ |
| 17:14.39 | darth_mall | oooh! there's two sides to an index card! |
| 17:14.52 | darth_mall | poor purple_cow |
| 17:15.05 | kergoth | scanline: |
| 17:15.06 | kergoth | if 'perftest' in sys.modules: |
| 17:15.06 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:15.11 | kergoth | in __init__.py |
| 17:15.18 | darth_mall | heheh... we're not the only ones sitting here working on code ignoring anderson |
| 17:15.24 | scanline | kergoth: eep |
| 17:15.29 | kergoth | twisted, eh? |
| 17:15.29 | kergoth | :) |
| 17:15.55 | kergoth | works, too. then set the global __all__ to consist of methods of a singleton of _perftest |
| 17:16.06 | kergoth | then both work, and can control access |
| 17:16.14 | scanline | sounds like what twisted does with reactors |
| 17:16.26 | scanline | twisted.internet.reactor is a singleton of some os-dependent object |
| 17:16.32 | kergoth | cool |
| 17:17.16 | pagefault | yay for vnc |
| 17:22.59 | slimspace | scanline: design question...Should relays be responsible for also monitoring the voltage through them? |
| 17:23.22 | slimspace | or just the state of the relay? |
| 17:24.36 | scanline | slimspace: it'd be nice if they could, but I'm not sure we can do that in every case given CX's hardware. A subclass of Relay that can also monitor its voltage might be good |
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| 17:25.06 | slimspace | mmm, yeah...Just looking over the command list, I can see at least two different commands for fc relay voltage |
| 17:25.35 | scanline | well, there are usually multiple physical relays per relay command |
| 17:25.41 | scanline | like a +5V relay, a +12V relay |
| 17:25.44 | slimspace | right |
| 17:25.46 | scanline | and each of those should have a voltage sensor |
| 17:25.54 | scanline | but I'm not sure all of the voltage sensors work |
| 17:26.17 | scanline | hmm.. maybe we actually have a PowerDistribution object which has a relay, plus it has sensors for voltages and currents |
| 17:26.28 | slimspace | that could work... |
| 17:26.34 | scanline | and whether the relay is on or off, it checks for error conditions on the voltages and currents |
| 17:26.56 | slimspace | I was thinking having the relay given a name like "mnet_relay" or "tx_relay" and a list of the kinds of voltages it can monitor. |
| 17:27.04 | slimspace | Each of the items in the list would then become observable values. |
| 17:27.48 | scanline | I think it will mostly be useful as an organizational device.. so you can have names like 'relays/micronet/current' to refer to those values |
| 17:28.12 | scanline | but it will also help define different acceptable voltage/current ranges depending on the relay state |
| 17:28.27 | slimspace | is that for the PowerDistribution object? |
| 17:28.31 | scanline | yeah |
| 17:28.48 | scanline | it probably shouldn't take commands for the voltage/current monitors, but observable.value references |
| 17:28.54 | scanline | since the data might be coming from a sendall elsewhere |
| 17:30.05 | scanline | maybe something like PowerDistribution('mnet_relay', voltages={ 5: sendallReader.mnet_relay_fivevolts_voltage, 12: ... } |
| 17:30.38 | slimspace | hmm... |
| 17:30.55 | slimspace | ok, then I could just have the Relay objects monitor their state. |
| 17:30.58 | scanline | hmm... |
| 17:31.13 | scanline | yeah, relays themselves shoudln't have to know about the voltage sensors since there's a 1-to-many relationship between them |
| 17:31.21 | slimspace | yeah |
| 17:31.27 | scanline | hmmm |
| 17:31.51 | scanline | and actually, we probably want the voltage sensors to be done per-voltage |
| 17:31.56 | slimspace | hmm...the states of the relays come from the CD sendall... |
| 17:32.04 | scanline | slimspace: some of them do |
| 17:32.22 | scanline | hmmm |
| 17:32.47 | slimspace | we need a way to specify where the information should be coming from then... |
| 17:32.50 | scanline | it's going to be tricky mapping relay name to the most efficient way to read that state |
| 17:32.51 | scanline | yeah |
| 17:33.13 | scanline | this should probably go in CommandList somehow |
| 17:33.40 | slimspace | hmm... |
| 17:34.30 | scanline | we could just have each relay command specify which command and reply key indicate their current state |
| 17:34.59 | scanline | then it would be helpful to have a global cache of MicronetReaders so that we don't end up with multiple readers for one command |
| 17:37.13 | slimspace | I hate to start adding things into the satellite class for that, though, it could get quite messy... |
| 17:37.28 | scanline | right, that's why I'd rather have the HAL worry about it :) |
| 17:37.38 | slimspace | hmm... :) |
| 17:38.58 | slimspace | I wonder...we already have a method to prevent duplication of schedulers...Couldn't we extend that to work for both a micronet instance and a command? |
| 17:39.30 | darth_mall | there's really only one way to describe Anderson... flaming retard |
| 17:39.33 | darth_mall | rar |
| 17:48.06 | darth_mall | man, what a waste of my morning |
| 17:52.46 | darth_mall | yay ChipX86! |
| 17:55.02 | purple_cow | darth_mall: i was surprised that he managed to tie use-cases into OOP, but he spent way too long on them |
| 17:55.07 | scanline | wobble |
| 17:55.47 | purple_cow | i would have been totally satisfied with "here's a quick example of a use case, these are good for determining responsibilities" |
| 17:57.13 | ChipX86 | oh no |
| 17:57.18 | ChipX86 | tomboy 0.3.1 crashed on me |
| 17:58.25 | darth_mall | hrm... why aren't these things auto-loading... |
| 17:59.13 | ChipX86 | *sigh* |
| 17:59.20 | ChipX86 | today's off to a fun start |
| 18:03.17 | scanline | purple_cow: I have ellipsizing topics now =) |
| 18:03.39 | darth_mall | ChipX86: for you too, huh? |
| 18:03.42 | darth_mall | scanline: =D |
| 18:03.59 | ChipX86 | yup |
| 18:04.08 | purple_cow | scanline: isn't it cool? :) |
| 18:04.50 | purple_cow | wow, they have a new icon for the web browser launcher doodad |
| 18:06.41 | purple_cow | woo! apple fixed one of my beefs with the dock |
| 18:07.02 | purple_cow | documents now have the application icon as an emblem |
| 18:07.40 | purple_cow | urgh, fucking IE |
| 18:07.49 | purple_cow | the fonts are half the size of firefox/safari |
| 18:10.40 | kergoth | is there a way to tell if the module is being imported by pydoc? a global variable to check perhaps? |
| 18:10.43 | kergoth | hmm |
| 18:11.41 | darth_mall | wow, those are some messy diagrams |
| 18:12.02 | CIA-6 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r850 10mck/PyMCK/ (Observable.py Test/test_observable.py): Add a warpToValue() method to Observable.State that changes states without invoking transition functions. |
| 18:13.50 | kergoth | nm, got it doing what i wanted |
| 18:18.40 | scanline | hehe |
| 18:19.28 | scanline | yay, tripe |
| 18:24.04 | scanline | you need diagrams with little electrons sitting on the plates with smiley faces |
| 18:24.12 | scanline | and the smiley-electrons leap around and vibrate and such |
| 18:24.19 | scanline | it'd be just like the book I learned electronics from |
| 18:25.18 | kergoth | pydoc doesnt appear to obey my sys.modules change :\ |
| 18:25.21 | kergoth | bastards |
| 18:26.15 | file | kergoth: such negativity! |
| 18:26.41 | CIA-6 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r852 10mck/PyMCK/ (Hardware/Micronet/Entity.py Types.py): |
| 18:26.41 | CIA-6 | spacegrant: Add a Types.singleton utility, and add some factory functions in Micronet.Entity |
| 18:26.41 | CIA-6 | spacegrant: such that MicronetReaders can be singletons. This also adds a higher-level |
| 18:26.41 | CIA-6 | spacegrant: getMicronetSensor() factory function that returns a particular observable.value |
| 18:26.41 | CIA-6 | spacegrant: using names like "cmd_cd_sendall.digital_fc_relay". |
| 18:35.43 | kergoth | ibot: do a little dance |
| 18:35.57 | kergoth | bah, wrong bot |
| 18:35.59 | kergoth | jbot: do a little dance |
| 18:36.01 | jbot | ACTION does a little dance. |
| 18:43.48 | kergoth | hrm |
| 18:43.50 | kergoth | python question |
| 18:43.53 | kergoth | a = "test" |
| 18:44.06 | kergoth | how do i use a to set a global variable test? |
| 18:44.14 | kergoth | you cant do globals[a] = "blah" |
| 18:44.19 | kergoth | because globals doesnt support item assignment |
| 18:44.57 | ToyKeeper | global a |
| 18:44.59 | ToyKeeper | a = "blah" |
| 18:45.08 | kergoth | you didnt hear me. |
| 18:45.13 | kergoth | given the lines you just set |
| 18:45.18 | kergoth | i want the global variable _blah_ |
| 18:45.20 | ToyKeeper | Oh, heh. |
| 18:45.33 | kergoth | i want to use the contents of a variable to set another variable |
| 18:45.44 | ToyKeeper | globals()[a] = "blah" |
| 18:45.58 | kergoth | doh, right, that was obvious |
| 18:46.01 | kergoth | thanks |
| 18:48.44 | darth_mall | woo! |
| 18:49.10 | darth_mall | purple_cow: fixed autoloading =D |
| 18:51.26 | CIA-6 | spacegrant: 03maccarro * r854 10mck/PyMCK/Hardware/Micronet/Entity.py: oops, we weren't doing anything with the relay sensor status. |
| 18:53.39 | CIA-6 | navi-misc: 03evan * r6525 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/preferences_plugins_page.c: |
| 18:53.39 | CIA-6 | navi-misc: Woo! It autoloads plugins correctly now, based on what |
| 18:53.39 | CIA-6 | navi-misc: plugins were enabled last time. |
| 19:00.17 | kergoth | http://hyperion.kergoth.com/dl/__init__.py <-heh. |
| 19:05.32 | CIA-6 | navi-misc: 03evan * r6526 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (preferences_plugins_page.c preferences_plugins_page.h): Mostly just whitespace and comments. |
| 19:06.52 | scanline | kergoth: yow |
| 19:07.00 | kergoth | hehe |
| 19:07.03 | darth_mall | scanline: I don't think that works with him |
| 19:07.05 | darth_mall | jbot: yow |
| 19:07.09 | darth_mall | see |
| 19:07.24 | scanline | hehe3 |
| 19:07.28 | darth_mall | ;) |
| 19:08.26 | darth_mall | guess who's hungry |
| 19:10.12 | scanline | darth_mall: are you coming to work at all today? |
| 19:10.48 | nullpuppy | yay, bad hdd :( |
| 19:10.59 | darth_mall | scanline: I'll be in after this class |
| 19:11.25 | CIA-6 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r855 10mck/PyMCK/Change.py: Yay, new retry code that hasn't been tested at all. This needs a test suite... |
| 19:11.30 | darth_mall | and possibly after chaos, if kendra wants to talk to me |
| 19:14.16 | scanline | yay, ADCS |
| 19:33.16 | kergoth | hmm. |
| 19:35.00 | file | ChipX86|Gone: is it pretty? |
| 19:35.06 | ChipX86|Gone | far from it |
| 19:35.12 | file | I thought so. |
| 19:35.16 | ChipX86|Gone | it's hideous |
| 19:35.21 | ChipX86|Gone | horribly hideous |
| 19:35.28 | ChipX86|Gone | and the reason for all slowdown that I've noticed in vmware |
| 19:35.30 | file | but you'll make it better won't you? |
| 19:35.35 | ChipX86|Gone | I'll make it work at lesat |
| 19:36.03 | file | haha I'm doing an image of my laptop over the network and my server is choking on it... takes awhile to even retrieve my mail |
| 19:38.35 | TD | ChipX86|Gone: what does it do? |
| 19:38.37 | TD | emulator code? or gui code? |
| 19:38.51 | ChipX86|Gone | favorites list storage |
| 19:39.04 | ChipX86|Gone | we're loading, parsing, updating, and writing the favorites list for every item in it |
| 19:39.13 | ChipX86|Gone | which makes it very slow on, say, an nfs mount |
| 19:40.46 | TD | ahh |
| 19:40.51 | TD | favourites? |
| 19:40.54 | TD | is that like the current VMs? |
| 19:41.02 | ChipX86 | it's like bookmarks for VMs |
| 19:41.08 | ChipX86 | quick access to the VMs you use most |
| 19:41.21 | ChipX86 | and I have over 20 in my list for testing, and noticed a huge slowdown yesterday |
| 19:42.46 | pagefault | hehe |
| 19:43.12 | file | so like this image creation is going to take a century or two |
| 19:43.15 | file | only at 12% |
| 19:44.06 | file | Thursday... means my last exam is tomorrow... excellent |
| 19:44.07 | ChipX86 | I have what is cleverly disguised as a somewhat elegant solution |
| 19:44.39 | pagefault | wget -r is nice |
| 19:45.57 | pagefault | greetings |
| 19:46.09 | file | hi |
| 19:58.28 | kergoth | if os.path.basename(sys.argv[0]) == 'pydoc': |
| 19:58.31 | kergoth | man, thats ugly |
| 19:58.34 | kergoth | oh well |
| 19:59.24 | nullpuppy | haha |
| 20:04.46 | pagefault | oh crap |
| 20:04.52 | pagefault | mount: fs type iso9660 not supported by kernel |
| 20:04.53 | pagefault | :/ |
| 20:06.47 | file | haha |
| 20:06.54 | purple_cow | wow that was cool |
| 20:06.55 | file | lemme see |
| 20:07.04 | purple_cow | bobby mcferrin did a sort of QA/master class thingy =D |
| 20:07.21 | file | I'll add it in |
| 20:07.29 | pagefault | yay |
| 20:07.54 | file | well, try to |
| 20:09.22 | file | maybe the 2.4 will have it |
| 20:09.33 | file | yeah the 2.4 has it |
| 20:09.40 | file | lemme switch you |
| 20:09.46 | pagefault | whoever compile it without it is goofy |
| 20:09.49 | pagefault | err compiled |
| 20:10.04 | file | shut your UML down |
| 20:10.14 | pagefault | one secv |
| 20:10.31 | pagefault | ok it's down |
| 20:10.56 | file | and back up |
| 20:11.17 | pagefault | yay thanks |
| 20:11.22 | file | with is9660! |
| 20:11.23 | file | er iso |
| 20:11.31 | file | and now I hop away |
| 20:11.32 | file | bbs |
| 20:13.54 | pagefault | now to clean up stuff |
| 20:13.56 | pagefault | and install gentoo :) |
| 20:24.38 | CIA-6 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6527 10evo/publish-calendar/ (url-editor-dialog.c url-editor-dialog.h): add some buttons |
| 20:27.57 | file | hehe we have no dialtone here so my mom is using my VoIP phone |
| 20:30.01 | pagefault | file you did install a amd64 kernel right? |
| 20:32.26 | file | pagefault: for what |
| 20:32.34 | pagefault | for the UML |
| 20:32.44 | file | why would I? |
| 20:32.55 | pagefault | because it's an opteron? |
| 20:32.59 | file | it isn't... |
| 20:33.03 | pagefault | what |
| 20:33.19 | file | model name : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2600+ |
| 20:33.35 | file | I never said it was LOL |
| 20:33.58 | file | silly |
| 20:35.21 | file | what's the matter? |
| 20:35.33 | pagefault | because I was half way installing amd64 stage1 |
| 20:35.40 | file | you're silly |
| 20:39.26 | purple_cow | why in the world would you do stage 1? |
| 20:39.35 | pagefault | I meant stage 2 |
| 20:41.35 | purple_cow | why in the world would you do stage 2? |
| 20:42.41 | pagefault | why not? |
| 20:42.58 | purple_cow | because stage 3 takes a lot less time? |
| 20:43.04 | darth_mall | purple_cow: hush, you're making sense |
| 20:44.04 | scanline | purple_cow: sacrecy! |
| 20:44.22 | darth_mall | hereligious! |
| 20:44.35 | scanline | I had this crazy idea about running all the 8052 code on CX under an emulator |
| 20:44.39 | scanline | but I can't find any binaries |
| 20:57.54 | purple_cow | hmm, or maybe dune |
| 21:00.55 | CIA-6 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6529 10evo/publish-calendar/publish-calendar.glade: name toplevel notebook properly |
| 21:01.07 | purple_cow | yay lag |
| 21:01.10 | pagefault | hmm |
| 21:01.13 | pagefault | even google is going mini now |
| 21:01.14 | pagefault | http://www.google.com/enterprise/mini/ |
| 21:01.17 | purple_cow | hrm |
| 21:02.35 | pagefault | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2496427.stm |
| 21:02.36 | pagefault | haw |
| 21:02.37 | pagefault | thats sad |
| 21:02.50 | CIA-6 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6530 10evo/publish-calendar/ (3 files): make widgetry work |
| 21:03.13 | pagefault | 71% of Americans could point out where the Pacific Ocean - the world's largest body of water - was located. Worldwide, three in 10 of those surveyed could not locate the Pacific Ocean. |
| 21:13.42 | scanline | oh no, a slimspace |
| 21:13.54 | slimspace | oh no, a scanline |
| 21:26.14 | kergoth | heh, cia's laggy again i take it? |
| 21:26.57 | scanline | uhhuh |
| 21:31.40 | CIA-6 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.2996 10openembedded/classes/base.bbclass: Add handling of USE_NLS_packagename, done the same way as CVSDATE. |
| 21:32.02 | file | poor CIA |
| 21:44.10 | *** join/#tacobeam orchid (orchid@orchid.user) |
| 21:47.06 | CIA-6 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.2759.147.1 10openembedded/packages/uclibc/ (13 files in 9 dirs): |
| 21:47.06 | CIA-6 | openembedded: Add uclibc 0.9.27, make it the default preferred version, and consolodate |
| 21:47.06 | CIA-6 | openembedded: uclibc metadata into a .inc. |
| 21:55.28 | purple_cow | mmm |
| 21:55.29 | purple_cow | http://navi.cx/~jupiter/school/MUSC4081/project1/main.shtml |
| 21:56.53 | purple_cow | hah, crazy bastard |
| 21:57.03 | purple_cow | (14:59:48) Joe Thompson: any use for a couple thousand origin 200's? |
| 21:57.03 | purple_cow | (14:59:58) davidtrowbridge1: couple *thousand* ?? |
| 21:57.03 | purple_cow | (15:00:11) Joe Thompson: got a foot in for the us postal service liquidation |
| 21:59.39 | file | purple_cow: nuts |
| 22:00.04 | file | cute though |
| 22:02.50 | scanline | purple_cow: that schematic looks familiar |
| 22:03.16 | purple_cow | scanline: i'd imagine |
| 22:03.25 | purple_cow | look at the url :P |
| 22:03.29 | scanline | that jpeg looks a bit artifactey |
| 22:03.44 | file | cool, only took 10 minutes to create a backup image... and 7 minutes to restore my laptop using the image... |
| 22:04.08 | purple_cow | scanline: it's amazingly hard to take a good photo of something this big under the lowish light here |
| 22:04.59 | scanline | ah |
| 22:05.07 | scanline | is that in your room, or did you bring the EFS to school? |
| 22:05.37 | purple_cow | room |
| 22:06.07 | purple_cow | http://navi.cx/~jupiter/school/MUSC4081/project1/efs-bottom-detail.jpeg <-- that one came out a little better |
| 22:06.35 | scanline | bright |
| 22:06.49 | purple_cow | uhhuh |
| 22:06.55 | purple_cow | it's hard 'cuz the board is so dark |
| 22:07.25 | purple_cow | too much copper! |
| 22:09.12 | scanline | :) |
| 22:12.42 | ChipX86 | mmmm good lunch. Sleepy now. |
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| 22:26.26 | *** part/#tacobeam pagefault_ (pagefault@Toronto-HSE-ppp3858381.sympatico.ca) |
| 22:26.33 | *** join/#tacobeam pagefault_ (pagefault@Toronto-HSE-ppp3858381.sympatico.ca) |
| 22:26.38 | pagefault_ | bah |
| 22:26.51 | file | what is it pagefault? |
| 22:27.02 | ChipX86 | oohh |
| 22:27.05 | ChipX86 | tml got dbus working on win32 |
| 22:27.12 | pagefault | there |
| 22:30.05 | pagefault | brb |
| 22:33.27 | *** join/#tacobeam pagefault (pagefault@Toronto-HSE-ppp3858381.sympatico.ca) |
| 22:37.32 | darth_mall | I'm all dressed up with nowhere to go |
| 22:37.37 | darth_mall | walkin' with a dead man over my shoulder |
| 22:39.28 | purple_cow | =D |
| 22:40.08 | darth_mall | I was struck by lightnin' |
| 22:40.10 | darth_mall | walkin' down the street |
| 22:40.16 | darth_mall | I was hit by something last night in my sleep |
| 22:40.23 | darth_mall | it's a dead man's party, who could ask for more? |
| 22:40.26 | ChipX86 | singin' ooo la diddy diddy dum diddy dodo |
| 22:40.26 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 22:40.30 | darth_mall | every bodies come and leave your body at the door |
| 22:40.59 | darth_mall | Oingo Boingo is mandatory to life |
| 22:42.39 | scanline | curse this micronet protocol for not being symmetric |
| 22:49.22 | CIA-6 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6533 10fyre/ (9 files in 3 dirs): add an icon |
| 22:49.29 | darth_mall | purple_cow: let's have a party! there's a full moon in the sky. it's the hour of the wolf and I don't want to die! |
| 22:49.30 | CIA-6 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6534 10fyre/: hush |
| 22:49.58 | purple_cow | darth_mall: yes sir |
| 22:50.13 | ChipX86 | http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=10360355&dcaid=1688 |
| 22:50.15 | ChipX86 | not a bad price |
| 22:51.34 | darth_mall | purple_cow: I bet a piece of sandpaper would be more useful for an itch |
| 22:51.50 | scanline | oh no, wine |
| 22:52.21 | darth_mall | that's because you haven't been to France |
| 22:52.24 | darth_mall | it's much tastier there |
| 22:52.29 | purple_cow | or italy |
| 22:52.44 | purple_cow | scanline: whose wine were you tasting? :P |
| 22:53.28 | darth_mall | mmm... I love Stay |
| 22:53.30 | darth_mall | what a cool song |
| 22:53.33 | darth_mall | so catchy |
| 23:01.56 | ChipX86 | pfft, turn around for 5 mins and my bug list has doubled |
| 23:02.15 | purple_cow | that's how it works |
| 23:02.25 | purple_cow | woo! |
| 23:02.31 | purple_cow | the only bugs left in fyre are windows related :) |
| 23:04.45 | ChipX86 | yay, 100% bug-free programs! |
| 23:05.48 | *** join/#tacobeam file[laptop] (~file_lapt@mctn1-1640.nb.aliant.net) |
| 23:05.53 | darth_mall | windoze is moo |
| 23:06.46 | scanline | purple_cow: something gonkulator had |
| 23:06.53 | purple_cow | scanline: don't trust it! |
| 23:07.16 | purple_cow | scanline: real wine doesn't come in boxes :P |
| 23:07.20 | scanline | hehe |
| 23:07.24 | darth_mall | that's effectivelywhat I just said ;) |
| 23:07.25 | scanline | darth_mall just mentioned that |
| 23:12.22 | pagefault | haha |
| 23:12.48 | pagefault | I love this episode |
| 23:12.51 | pagefault | homer works from home |
| 23:13.33 | darth_mall | do wha? |
| 23:14.12 | ChipX86 | don't cut it! Then it won't grow :( |
| 23:15.30 | ChipX86 | I taught myself :D |
| 23:15.54 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 23:15.54 | ChipX86 | it's a theoretical college! |
| 23:16.02 | ChipX86 | also, strawberries are a type of bean. |
| 23:16.14 | purple_cow | now you see, if other people were here, i would make coffee |
| 23:18.15 | scanline | purple_cow: you should come here, 'cuz that's where darth_mall, slimspace, and I are |
| 23:18.21 | darth_mall | yes! |
| 23:18.21 | scanline | then you can make coffee |
| 23:18.25 | darth_mall | but I shall hopefully be leaving soon |
| 23:18.30 | scanline | oh no! |
| 23:20.50 | purple_cow | http://navi.cx/~jupiter/hurray.png |
| 23:21.07 | ChipX86 | :D |
| 23:22.19 | scanline | what's that? |
| 23:22.44 | purple_cow | which one? |
| 23:23.05 | scanline | oh, it's a drawer |
| 23:23.12 | scanline | with graphical-type apps |
| 23:23.56 | CIA-6 | spacegrant: 03evan * r859 10doc-misc/adcs/sgp4_test_cases.xls: |
| 23:23.56 | CIA-6 | spacegrant: Moved the atmospheric drag and gravitation calculations to their |
| 23:23.56 | CIA-6 | spacegrant: own page. Huzzah! |
| 23:24.15 | darth_mall | hi CIA-6 |
| 23:24.17 | purple_cow | scanline: righto |
| 23:24.50 | darth_mall | purple_cow: your easel appears to have 4 legs |
| 23:24.59 | purple_cow | darth_mall: 3 in front, 1 in back |
| 23:25.24 | darth_mall | it just struck me as odd |
| 23:25.44 | purple_cow | hmm, that's what i get for going from memory |
| 23:25.52 | purple_cow | looks like most of them have a middle bar but it doesn't go all the way to the floor |
| 23:25.57 | lurgy | hmm |
| 23:26.06 | darth_mall | lurgy: you should come sit in my lap |
| 23:26.21 | darth_mall | or at least next to it |
| 23:26.31 | scanline | purple_cow: ah, that's your easel icon? what's it for? |
| 23:27.13 | scanline | fyre? :) |
| 23:27.17 | darth_mall | that's my guess |
| 23:28.00 | scanline | bleh.. now I want to change this all around so that it's possible to write micronet interfaces that aren't blocking |
| 23:28.54 | ChipX86 | I thought it'd be neat to have a vectorish, simple fireball thing, with a fyre-type spiral in the center spreading to the outside |
| 23:29.01 | ChipX86 | but I got bored and didn't make it |
| 23:29.36 | purple_cow | scanline: it's my try. not fantastic, but not as horrible as i thought it might be |
| 23:29.38 | scanline | hmm.. actually... maybe even the virtual micronet should be run by a blocking thread, just to make the timing realistic |
| 23:29.45 | scanline | purple_cow: cool |
| 23:31.15 | purple_cow | blarg, now i'm all disappointed at the sold-outedness of the bobby mcferrin concert :( |
| 23:31.34 | lurgy | :( |
| 23:33.06 | darth_mall | grrrr... he was around and I didn't talk to him and now I can't find him |
| 23:40.58 | pagefault | where is my remote |
| 23:40.59 | pagefault | argh |
| 23:43.02 | pagefault | file[laptop], SG-1 tonight |
| 23:43.10 | file[laptop] | it's on every night |
| 23:43.16 | pagefault | but a new one is on tonight |
| 23:43.17 | file[laptop] | what episode is it? |
| 23:43.30 | file[laptop] | btw, season 8 starts in February |
| 23:43.34 | pagefault | yeah |
| 23:43.39 | pagefault | looks like we will catch up for season 9 |
| 23:43.40 | pagefault | if there is one |
| 23:43.46 | file[laptop] | indeed |
| 23:44.11 | pagefault | atlantis season finale is on on the 31st |
| 23:44.21 | file[laptop] | Bra'tac reveals to the Tau'ri that Anubis will attack Earth in 3 days. |
| 23:44.23 | ChipX86 | finale? |
| 23:44.27 | pagefault | yeah |
| 23:44.49 | file[laptop] | I haven't kept up with Atlantis... makes me sad ;( |
| 23:45.07 | pagefault | i've seen almost all the episodes |
| 23:45.11 | ChipX86 | I like it, but it's not the same |
| 23:45.17 | pagefault | yeah it's different |
| 23:45.22 | pagefault | which is probably a good thing |
| 23:45.52 | pagefault | according to this infomercial the mess of cables under my PC is a "safety hazard" |
| 23:45.59 | pagefault | and I need some $70 device to organize it |
| 23:46.00 | ChipX86 | uh oh |
| 23:46.04 | ChipX86 | it might catch on fire |
| 23:46.08 | ChipX86 | cables *always* catch on fire |
| 23:46.17 | pagefault | yes |
| 23:46.25 | pagefault | because so much voltage is running through a keyboard cable |
| 23:46.31 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 23:46.41 | ChipX86 | also, you don't want to spill water on the keyboard, or on the cables |
| 23:46.48 | ChipX86 | it'll spark and cut out your power and catch fire |
| 23:46.54 | pagefault | yeah |
| 23:47.12 | ChipX86 | ah-HA! |
| 23:47.22 | ChipX86 | found the problem. Yay! insert celebratory dance here |
| 23:47.39 | pagefault | yay |
| 23:48.08 | file[laptop] | ChipX86: woot! |
| 23:52.13 | hardwire | ok |
| 23:52.19 | file[laptop] | hardwire! |
| 23:52.26 | hardwire | I get to quote out a GPS/Packet Radio controlled Helicopter |
| 23:52.32 | file[laptop] | O.o |
| 23:53.35 | pagefault | rogers is going to start offering voip in june |
| 23:53.36 | pagefault | scary |
| 23:53.37 | darth_mall | time to start packin' fer home |
| 23:53.44 | file[laptop] | pagefault: very |
| 23:54.21 | pagefault | they are starting to screw over all the fido customers now |
| 23:54.28 | pagefault | they reduced the coverage on cityfido |
| 23:54.44 | file[laptop] | oh? |
| 23:54.49 | pagefault | yeah |
| 23:54.53 | pagefault | and now fido will be gone in 3 months |
| 23:54.57 | pagefault | insted of the year they planned on |
| 23:55.01 | file[laptop] | haha |
| 23:55.16 | file[laptop] | I thought they claimed they were going to keep them totally separate, and keep Fido going |
| 23:55.29 | pagefault | yeah they probably said that so people wouldn't sell fido stock like mad |
| 23:55.51 | pagefault | or cancel their account and go somewhere else |
| 23:56.32 | pagefault | woah |
| 23:56.41 | pagefault | someone in NS has like a 7 ft wall of snow around their house |
| 23:56.45 | pagefault | they can't get out |
| 23:57.02 | file[laptop] | ah yes |
| 23:57.26 | pagefault | i'd be fine as long as the internet stayed up :) |
| 23:57.56 | file[laptop] | and food? |
| 23:58.04 | pagefault | order it! |
| 23:58.32 | file[laptop] | haha |
| 23:58.34 | pagefault | live off swiss chalet |
| 23:58.45 | pagefault | just give them special delivery instructions |
| 23:58.51 | file[laptop] | you're making me hungry |
| 23:59.17 | pagefault | food is good |
