| 00:01.13 | pagefault | yep |
| 00:01.24 | pagefault | iwlist eth1 scan |
| 00:01.33 | pagefault | iwconfig eth1 essid "somenetwork" |
| 00:01.35 | pagefault | it's stupid |
| 00:02.15 | kergoth | i dont mind the tools |
| 00:02.21 | kergoth | iwlist, iwscan, iwconfig. seem fine to me |
| 00:02.36 | kergoth | what i dont like si the wireless extensions versioning, and them breaking compatibility |
| 00:03.12 | pagefault | I have to keep getting new firmware for my card whenever they release a new version |
| 00:03.53 | scanline | pagefault: how is that a problem with linux wireless? |
| 00:04.03 | pagefault | it should be easy like windows :) |
| 00:04.17 | pagefault | and just work |
| 00:04.30 | ChipX86 | scanline: looks like it hit 0 |
| 00:04.46 | scanline | bleh |
| 00:04.54 | pagefault | I wish intel would get moving though |
| 00:05.02 | pagefault | and put monitor mode support into their 2200 driver |
| 00:05.03 | pagefault | heh |
| 00:06.52 | pagefault | hello file |
| 00:07.00 | file[laptop] | what's up? |
| 00:07.20 | pagefault | not much |
| 00:07.21 | pagefault | you? |
| 00:07.31 | file[laptop] | de nada |
| 00:07.36 | file[laptop] | just played some DDR |
| 00:07.57 | pagefault | do you have a pad |
| 00:07.59 | pagefault | ? |
| 00:08.04 | file[laptop] | yes |
| 00:08.09 | ChipX86 | I should do that |
| 00:08.15 | ChipX86 | take advantage of actually having a DDR |
| 00:08.23 | file[laptop] | indeed |
| 00:08.33 | file[laptop] | we're getting permission to set a monster one up @ school after exams |
| 00:08.36 | pagefault | it's exercise if anything |
| 00:08.41 | file[laptop] | using two projectors, laptops, pads |
| 00:08.58 | scanline | ChipX86: seems to be hovering close to zero. The http limiter in CIA taking effect now :( |
| 00:09.09 | darth_mall | pagefault: what kind of wireless card do you have? |
| 00:09.10 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 00:09.20 | pagefault | darth_mall, the intel prowireless 2200BG |
| 00:09.50 | darth_mall | what distro do you use? |
| 00:10.12 | pagefault | gentoo |
| 00:10.22 | darth_mall | aren't there ebuilds for all that? |
| 00:10.36 | pagefault | I couldn't find any |
| 00:10.41 | darth_mall | I've got the 2100 and all I have to do is compile my kernel with the right stuff and emerge ipw2100 |
| 00:10.46 | pagefault | at least ones that were up to date |
| 00:10.52 | darth_mall | it does the firmware too |
| 00:11.08 | ChipX86 | I just copy the firmware files to a hotplug directory, compile the new driver, and I'm done |
| 00:11.12 | ChipX86 | I use SuSE |
| 00:11.29 | pagefault | yeah I have suse installed too |
| 00:11.30 | pagefault | 9.2 |
| 00:11.30 | darth_mall | ChipX86: I used to do that, then I discovered there ebuilds ^^ |
| 00:11.35 | pagefault | i'm in the process of moving to that |
| 00:11.40 | darth_mall | pagefault: emerge -s ipw |
| 00:11.40 | pagefault | gentoo is a pain in the ass on a laptop |
| 00:12.05 | darth_mall | they've got ipw2100 and 2200 |
| 00:12.10 | pagefault | hmm |
| 00:12.24 | pagefault | I wonder why I couldn't find that earlier |
| 00:12.32 | darth_mall | when was the last time you looked? |
| 00:12.36 | pagefault | yesterday |
| 00:12.41 | darth_mall | oh, dunno then ^^ |
| 00:12.53 | pagefault | the 2200 driver isn't as complete |
| 00:12.55 | darth_mall | that ought to help make your life a bit easier though |
| 00:13.21 | pagefault | yeah |
| 00:13.37 | pagefault | I was pretty amazed at suse 9.2 though |
| 00:13.41 | darth_mall | what do you mean it isn't as complete? |
| 00:13.43 | pagefault | it got everything on the first try when I installed it |
| 00:13.47 | pagefault | darth_mall, missing features |
| 00:14.16 | ChipX86 | suse is actually quite nice |
| 00:14.26 | ChipX86 | I always thought it sucked because people said that a lot, but I really like it |
| 00:14.37 | pagefault | yeah I like it too |
| 00:14.39 | pagefault | it has a nice update system |
| 00:15.56 | pagefault | like the 2200 driver is missing monitor mode and some encryption modes the 2100 driver has |
| 00:17.07 | pagefault | i'm sure they will be ported from the 2100 driver though at some point |
| 00:17.37 | darth_mall | hehe... "BUGS: never use these functions." |
| 00:18.01 | pagefault | hehe |
| 00:18.11 | darth_mall | maybe I shouldn't use that function afterall... ;) |
| 00:18.17 | pagefault | the mobility 9000 drivers are amazing in linux |
| 00:18.23 | pagefault | they are the open source DRI ones |
| 00:18.52 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03maccarro * r760 10mck/ (5 files in 4 dirs): |
| 00:18.52 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: Fixed Package.py to allow SatelliteHardware and Mission instances in modules |
| 00:18.52 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: without detecting two classes, added commandline support for specifying a |
| 00:18.52 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: project and a mission, enabled use of new Package.py module for grabbing a |
| 00:18.52 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: mission. Dino's Dummy mission now works as it used to. |
| 00:20.05 | darth_mall | hi slimspace! |
| 00:20.11 | slimspace | hi darth_mall |
| 00:29.57 | slimspace | scanline: poke |
| 00:30.03 | scanline | ? |
| 00:30.17 | slimspace | Any chance we can work on the micronet stuff for the flight software tomorrow? |
| 00:30.34 | scanline | yeah, either today or tomorrow |
| 00:30.58 | scanline | I was hoping to do that today, but I've been battling CIA plus I've just been feeling crappy in general and having a hard time concentrating on anything |
| 00:31.21 | slimspace | I figured as much. No prob |
| 00:31.49 | slimspace | I don't know if you noticed, but I have the flight software runable, so aside from any tweaks left to implement, we can just slap the mnet stuff in and have our proof-of-concept for Kendra. |
| 00:32.10 | scanline | saw the commit, haven't read the diff yet |
| 00:32.12 | scanline | but it sounds good |
| 00:33.32 | slimspace | Do you have yours on the CD anywhere I could look? |
| 00:42.07 | darth_mall | slimspace: presentation? |
| 00:42.33 | slimspace | darth_mall: yeah. We have to present our concept and reasoning behind changing CX's flight computer and software to Dino's. Otherwise they won't approve it. |
| 00:44.21 | darth_mall | cool |
| 00:44.23 | darth_mall | when's that? |
| 00:44.30 | slimspace | probably next week sometime |
| 00:47.44 | scanline | slimspace: I'll check |
| 00:48.16 | scanline | ah |
| 00:48.49 | scanline | http://navi.cx/~micah/cx_critical_decoder_redesign.ppt |
| 00:49.02 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:49.06 | scanline | screw you firefox |
| 00:49.06 | slimspace | cool, got it |
| 00:49.19 | scanline | I accidentally clicked that link, and it opened it over one of my uploads |
| 00:49.25 | slimspace | ouch |
| 00:49.27 | purple_cow | =/ |
| 00:51.23 | purple_cow | hopefully it's not an absolute deadline, if something does wrong |
| 00:51.30 | scanline | yea |
| 00:52.45 | darth_mall | lol, I can compile the shell from inside it ^^ |
| 00:53.06 | purple_cow | wow, it's already been a month since we moved navi |
| 00:53.21 | purple_cow | darth_mall: that's almost as tickly as compilers compiling themselves |
| 00:53.28 | darth_mall | purple_cow: quite |
| 00:53.44 | darth_mall | well... it can't handle retarded users, but for this assignment I'm ok with that |
| 00:53.46 | scanline | darth_mall: you need to write a shell in shell script, so you can eventually have it run itself |
| 00:54.08 | scanline | :) |
| 00:54.16 | scanline | self-hosting is a big milestone for anything |
| 00:54.25 | scanline | yay |
| 00:54.28 | scanline | one of them finished |
| 00:54.32 | purple_cow | yay! |
| 00:54.47 | ChipX86 | the big milestone of galago will be when galago's able to tell you galago's presence |
| 00:54.49 | scanline | minimal-turbulence was submitted as artwork_1308 :) |
| 00:54.54 | ChipX86 | someday... I know we all look forward to that.. |
| 00:54.58 | purple_cow | big number |
| 00:55.11 | scanline | purple_cow: woo, singularity just finished.. artwork_1310 |
| 00:57.49 | scanline | ick -> http://flapjack.navi.cx:8080/monitor/diskio/io_status.html |
| 00:58.03 | purple_cow | eek |
| 01:00.08 | scanline | and yay, composition finished as artwork_1314 |
| 01:00.19 | purple_cow | yayayayayayay! |
| 01:00.35 | scanline | guess there were others submitting at the last minute :) |
| 01:00.45 | scanline | if that's just a submission counter |
| 01:00.52 | purple_cow | probably is |
| 01:02.57 | purple_cow | scanline: it's probably a counter |
| 01:03.45 | scanline | so I guess that's why it takes 'em until March to decide who gets in :) |
| 01:04.54 | purple_cow | where did you see that? |
| 01:05.04 | scanline | the email they sent confirming submission |
| 01:05.24 | purple_cow | ahh, cool |
| 01:05.28 | purple_cow | that's only a couple monts |
| 01:05.38 | scanline | yep |
| 01:05.46 | purple_cow | plenty of time to get things printed and framed and set up if we do get in |
| 01:06.16 | purple_cow | looks like if we want to do a poster too we have about 4 months |
| 01:07.09 | scanline | ok, now it's just thrashing... bleh.. |
| 01:07.55 | darth_mall | heh, this is kinda neat, I can actually run things from this shell |
| 01:13.52 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 01:14.57 | Samy | purple_cow, haha, want to hear the PullThePlug anthem? :) |
| 01:15.09 | purple_cow | Samy: i reluctantly accept |
| 01:15.23 | Samy | purple_cow, http://samy.kerneled.org/music/ptp-anthem.mp3 |
| 01:15.26 | darth_mall | hmm... this assignment is almost done |
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| 01:15.33 | Samy | Hey merlin{yokohama} |
| 01:15.49 | pagefault | I need to figure out some way of automating my coffee machine |
| 01:15.50 | merlin{yokohama} | hello Samy |
| 01:17.35 | Samy | "Pee Tee Pee!" |
| 01:17.41 | Samy | I'm off to sleep |
| 01:17.42 | Samy | Night |
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| 01:21.05 | purple_cow | huh |
| 01:21.13 | purple_cow | HAL depends on linux-2.6.10+ now |
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| 01:26.17 | scanline | grr |
| 01:29.15 | purple_cow | hahahaha |
| 01:29.21 | purple_cow | space grant is sending something to mars? |
| 01:29.37 | scanline | uhhuh |
| 01:30.02 | purple_cow | just the thing i need! |
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| 01:30.32 | file[laptop] | how odd |
| 01:30.56 | scanline | whoa |
| 01:30.59 | scanline | "2 queries inside InnoDB, 0 queries in queue |
| 01:30.59 | scanline | Main thread process no. 12323, id 114696, state: sleeping |
| 01:30.59 | scanline | Number of rows inserted 78, updated 385, deleted 0, read 1946073 |
| 01:30.59 | scanline | 0.00 inserts/s, 0.00 updates/s, 0.00 deletes/s, 38842.16 reads/s" |
| 01:31.15 | scanline | that reads/s is way high |
| 01:31.26 | scanline | maybe I'm just missing an index somewhere... |
| 01:31.54 | purple_cow | could just regenerate indexes for all the tables :P |
| 01:32.40 | scanline | that's not the issue, it could be that I don't have the right indexes, or that for some reason the query optimizer is making bad decisions |
| 01:33.24 | scanline | mm.. InnoDB is so cool |
| 01:33.34 | scanline | silly gentoo disabling it by default |
| 01:33.49 | scanline | heh.. my buffer pool is pegged |
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| 01:36.47 | scanline | purple_cow: MIMIC looks like a pretty cool project, though I don't know how much experience the people working on it have |
| 01:37.07 | purple_cow | scanline: there's no way i'm going to apply ;) |
| 01:37.11 | scanline | well yeah |
| 01:37.15 | purple_cow | (a) i have two jobs already |
| 01:37.41 | purple_cow | (b) i'm already going to graduate with ~180 credits :P |
| 01:38.28 | rioter | 180 credits means? |
| 01:38.56 | scanline | I overheard a MIMIC meeting where they were talking about ordering an evaluation board for some kind of fancy expensive SRAM interface for their FPGA... and only one guy seemed to know that you can just connect the SRAM directly to your FPGA |
| 01:40.46 | purple_cow | rioter: a credit sortof represents 1 hour per week sitting in a class |
| 01:40.53 | rioter | oh |
| 01:41.08 | purple_cow | most people graduate with 120-130 |
| 01:41.34 | rioter | ours is just done based on how many courses you do |
| 01:42.02 | rioter | most courses are 6 and you have to have done enough credit points at each level 100, 200, 300 and 400 to graduate |
| 01:42.31 | purple_cow | teehee |
| 01:43.17 | rioter | istick? that miniature usb memory stick/ |
| 01:43.21 | purple_cow | yeah |
| 01:46.28 | purple_cow | they did a great job of hiding the LED |
| 01:47.19 | ChipX86 | yay, I got a comment on Sad Man With Flowers |
| 01:48.03 | purple_cow | :) |
| 01:48.37 | purple_cow | it's a cool picture |
| 01:49.02 | purple_cow | wow |
| 01:49.07 | purple_cow | gweather and therm-applet have been agreeing all day |
| 01:49.10 | ChipX86 | yeah, I actually like it |
| 01:49.30 | ChipX86 | I was feeling really bummed out last night |
| 01:49.33 | scanline | now gweather needs graphs |
| 01:49.59 | purple_cow | hahahaha |
| 01:50.04 | purple_cow | the latest pa is cool :) |
| 01:50.20 | rioter | the counter strike bot one? |
| 01:50.32 | rioter | nope theres a new one |
| 01:50.36 | purple_cow | that one is cool too |
| 01:52.00 | rioter | waste?? |
| 01:52.02 | rioter | PAINT |
| 01:54.36 | purple_cow | yay symbol conflicts! |
| 02:00.21 | purple_cow | whoa |
| 02:00.34 | purple_cow | '97 bonnie and clyde is a really creepy song |
| 02:00.55 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:01.00 | kergoth | its a cover of the song by eminem. |
| 02:01.06 | kergoth | and yep, it is |
| 02:01.09 | kergoth | :) |
| 02:01.21 | purple_cow | it's a lot easier to take seriously when she does it :P |
| 02:02.19 | kergoth | naturally. eminem wasnt serious |
| 02:02.23 | kergoth | i like her version |
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| 02:13.01 | purple_cow | ahh, much nicer |
| 02:13.11 | purple_cow | now i just need new icons for lyx and tomboy |
| 02:15.46 | purple_cow | good god |
| 02:15.49 | purple_cow | http://kdelook.org/content/preview.php?preview=3&id=13584&file1=13584-1.jpg&file2=13584-3.jpg&file3=13584-3.jpg&name=Energia |
| 02:16.04 | scanline | haha |
| 02:17.27 | laodamas | ow, my retina! |
| 02:18.02 | laodamas | looks like some of the things mac users used to do with Kaleidoscope |
| 02:19.56 | purple_cow | the guy who linked to it commented "and this is why i use gnome" :) |
| 02:20.18 | purple_cow | hmm, dinner |
| 02:24.07 | scanline | ooh, this might be it |
| 02:24.31 | purple_cow | ouch |
| 02:24.45 | scanline | there are several with small performance problems, like using filesort... but the one that generates the 'related' box is scanning stats_relations without using an index |
| 02:24.45 | purple_cow | hmmhmmhmm |
| 02:25.03 | scanline | hooray for EXPLAIN SELECT |
| 02:25.35 | kergoth | there we go, matchbox-panel's mb-applet-wireless uses libiw from wireless-tools now |
| 02:31.57 | purple_cow | http://navi.cx/gallery/fyre-screenshots/fyre_cluster_rendering_2?full=1 <-- it's a shame that can't be easily reproduced, it would have been great for the art gallery :P |
| 02:34.32 | scanline | that sounds like a challenge |
| 02:34.32 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 02:36.16 | purple_cow | cool |
| 02:37.42 | lurgy | yay patch |
| 02:38.14 | purple_cow | whoa |
| 02:38.23 | purple_cow | ``happiness is a warm gun'' is -damn- cool |
| 02:38.46 | scanline | purple_cow: http://navi.cx/images/chaos/52.png |
| 02:38.52 | scanline | it isn't quite right, but it's very close |
| 02:38.55 | lurgy | hehe, purple_cow likes his LaTeX-style quote |
| 02:38.57 | lurgy | s |
| 02:39.01 | purple_cow | scanline: ^^ |
| 02:39.51 | lurgy | scanline: you on campus? |
| 02:39.54 | scanline | so apparently mysql has no efficient way to perform queries with something of the form WHERE (key1=const or key2=const); |
| 02:39.54 | purple_cow | mmm |
| 02:40.03 | lurgy | :) |
| 02:40.08 | scanline | lurgy: if I am, I must be very disoriented |
| 02:40.16 | lurgy | heh |
| 02:40.17 | lurgy | ok |
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| 02:41.09 | lurgy | mm frozen |
| 02:41.11 | lurgy | ok |
| 02:41.19 | scanline | hmm |
| 02:41.30 | scanline | suppose I'll have to break this into two queries then merge the results |
| 02:41.42 | scanline | silly SQL, not being a good language for representing graphs |
| 02:41.51 | CIA-5 | voiceconduits: 03jcolp * 10vc_routing/route_inbound.c: Don't free something that we haven't malloced yet |
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| 02:41.52 | file[laptop] | eek productivity |
| 02:41.52 | CIA-5 | voiceconduits: 03jcolp * 10vc_routing/route_inbound.c: Improve 11-digit to 10-digit conversion |
| 02:42.21 | file[laptop] | IRC went kaput |
| 02:42.24 | file[laptop] | that was very very scary |
| 02:42.25 | kergoth | man is it good seeing pcmcia get worked on |
| 02:42.42 | kergoth | there's now an app that does the same thing cardctl does (ident, eject, insert) using sysfs :D |
| 02:42.51 | purple_cow | neat |
| 02:43.33 | laodamas | purple_cow: does fyre do muli-threaded renders? |
| 02:43.39 | purple_cow | laodamas: you have to use cluster mode for that |
| 02:43.48 | purple_cow | laodamas: you can start up render nodes on localhost |
| 02:43.52 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6392 10cia/LibCIA/ (Stats/Metadata.py Web/Stats/Catalog.py): Two smallish SQL optimizations- remove an unnecessary 'SELECT DISTINCT' and add an ORDER BY NULL to the stats catalog query to prevent mysqld from running an implicit filesort |
| 02:44.10 | purple_cow | seemed a much simpler plan to just use tcp for everything rather than dealing with threads |
| 02:44.43 | scanline | it shouldn't be hard later to use the same histogram merging code to implement worker threads later if there's demand and interest |
| 02:44.51 | scanline | s/later// |
| 02:44.54 | kergoth | bleh |
| 02:44.59 | kergoth | automake 1.9.x is a picky bastard. |
| 02:45.20 | purple_cow | s/make 1\.9\.x// |
| 02:45.25 | purple_cow | err, */ |
| 02:45.28 | laodamas | I see. So there will be more ./configure and lack glibc fun for me! |
| 02:45.37 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:45.41 | laodamas | s/lack/lack of |
| 02:45.55 | purple_cow | laodamas: are you using sunwpro? :) |
| 02:47.13 | purple_cow | hahahaha |
| 02:47.25 | purple_cow | <swan> oh yes, and kate, its advanced editors, hangs upon spellchecking some documents (0.1% or less but i have encountered it at least twice - and with the same document it appears every time) |
| 02:47.25 | purple_cow | <swan> in such a way that i have to reboot machine because it cannot even switch to console |
| 02:47.30 | purple_cow | <carol> well, kde was made with windows users in mind? |
| 02:47.36 | purple_cow | <carol> perhaps the reboot is to make them feel comfortable |
| 02:47.37 | CIA-5 | voiceconduits: 03jcolp * 10vc_billing/call_progress.c: Retrieve gateway ip/port for temporary channel structure |
| 02:47.43 | kergoth | this monkey's gooooone to heaven! |
| 02:49.42 | file[laptop] | attack of the killer bagels! |
| 02:50.24 | scanline | yay for ORDER BY NULL |
| 02:51.03 | laodamas | purple_cow: gcc 3.4 on sun, but glibc does not compile on solaris 8 or 9 for "political reasons" |
| 02:59.21 | purple_cow | oof |
| 03:00.06 | kergoth | yay pixies |
| 03:00.09 | kergoth | i should upload this |
