| 00:00.00 | TD | you prefer vmware hacking to open source hacking? |
| 00:00.00 | scanline | hmm, looks like darth_mall and slimspace|away are gone |
| 00:00.06 | scanline | and I should go home too :) |
| 00:00.32 | ChipX86 | TD: no, I prefer quiet, happy hacking on something I enjoy (say, my HTPC stuff, or something) to hacking involving mass amounts of politics and bashing on listservs |
| 00:00.47 | TD | lol |
| 00:00.53 | TD | you need to get into writing mini apps that are cool |
| 00:00.55 | ChipX86 | I just don't like having to defend every one of my decisions to everybody |
| 00:00.56 | TD | and not having them as open source projects |
| 00:00.57 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 00:00.59 | TD | well |
| 00:01.01 | TD | release the source |
| 00:01.04 | TD | but no public lists or anything |
| 00:01.08 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 00:01.16 | TD | just a website with an autopackage and some cool shots. like the tomboy website |
| 00:01.16 | scanline | that's how almost all my projects work :) |
| 00:01.16 | ChipX86 | I want to see galago flourish |
| 00:01.22 | ChipX86 | but I want to do it without anybody noticing it's there. |
| 00:01.26 | TD | i wouldn't pay too much attention to armchair devs |
| 00:01.29 | ChipX86 | I want them to go away and leave me the hell alone :) |
| 00:01.41 | TD | i mean, man, i get a ton of flack for autopackage. but i know they're all wankers who don't know what they're talking about |
| 00:01.42 | TD | so it's ok :) |
| 00:01.54 | ChipX86 | TD: heh, you know, Alex and I were just talking about this and about the tomboy site earlier and how he has it set up simple like that |
| 00:02.06 | TD | yes, it's designed to be like a mac website isn't it? |
| 00:02.12 | ChipX86 | it's cool having him 6 feet away from me |
| 00:02.15 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 00:02.21 | TD | i took a look at some mac websites/software. there is much to learn from that. although they get some things wrong too |
| 00:04.44 | purple_cow | oh lordy |
| 00:04.53 | purple_cow | darth_mall just went about 3 steps sharp in the course of a single verse |
| 00:05.00 | TD | ChipX86: i think that'll be more common in future |
| 00:05.10 | TD | especially as all the open source desktop hackers start moving away from infrastructure work |
| 00:05.18 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 00:05.20 | TD | and start hacking out cool applets. if you look at the mac ecosystem it's all little applets |
| 00:05.27 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 00:05.30 | TD | whereas most of us are all involved with infrastructure. except scanline :) |
| 00:05.34 | TD | he just writes cool apps like fyre |
| 00:05.40 | ChipX86 | infrastructure is getting annoying |
| 00:05.46 | ChipX86 | it's not the coding or the testing |
| 00:05.46 | TD | well infrastructure and/or basics/essentials like IM clients |
| 00:05.48 | ChipX86 | it's the damn people with voices. |
| 00:05.51 | TD | heh |
| 00:05.51 | ChipX86 | well, keyboards |
| 00:06.04 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 00:06.18 | TD | yesterday i implied on d-d-l that we should abandon UNIX security, so users should never have to know the root password |
| 00:06.25 | ChipX86 | the thing is, you've done actual work |
| 00:06.27 | TD | you can imagine that this went down well :) |
| 00:06.27 | ChipX86 | half these people haven't |
| 00:06.29 | TD | yeah |
| 00:06.31 | ChipX86 | or they've done tiny little toys |
| 00:06.33 | TD | i think people listen more before of that |
| 00:07.37 | ChipX86 | brb |
| 00:10.48 | ChipX86 | back |
| 00:11.30 | ChipX86 | one bug left. |
| 00:11.46 | ChipX86 | well, kinda two, since I know another one is going to be assigned soon. |
| 00:12.14 | purple_cow | ChipX86: i don't mind people with voices so long as they've got something legitimate to say |
| 00:12.26 | purple_cow | if it's just something like irrational daemonophobia, i ignore |
| 00:12.34 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 00:20.19 | file | client from hell has e-mailed me |
| 00:26.04 | file | ooh two ignorings, I feel espically ignoring today |
| 00:42.50 | ChipX86 | :( I'm lost |
| 00:42.54 | ChipX86 | as of December 3rd |
| 00:42.59 | darth_mall | purple_cow: did you say you'd found a GTK frontend for lyx? |
| 00:47.10 | kergoth | ChipX86: ? |
| 00:47.15 | kergoth | bleh |
| 00:47.24 | ChipX86 | a spam told me I've been missing since dec 3rd |
| 00:47.27 | purple_cow | darth_mall: qt |
| 00:48.20 | purple_cow | scanline: coffee? |
| 00:49.15 | scanline | purple_cow: sure |
| 00:49.19 | scanline | forgot my hat, and ended up taking the long way home due to having a conversation with Anna on the way |
| 00:49.31 | purple_cow | scanline: ok, you can make it then? :) |
| 00:49.35 | scanline | pff |
| 00:49.44 | scanline | maybe, but I need to thaw first |
| 00:49.47 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 00:49.48 | scanline | fingers barely working... |
| 00:49.53 | scanline | ears not responging |
| 00:50.04 | purple_cow | my ears never respong properly |
| 00:50.07 | scanline | hmm... responging |
| 00:50.08 | scanline | hehe |
| 00:51.03 | ChipX86 | respongitate |
| 00:51.19 | ChipX86 | respoing! |
| 00:51.34 | scanline | http://navi.cx/therm/source/outside/ <-- yay unpredictable colorado weather |
| 00:52.34 | purple_cow | forecast sez it's gonna be cold all weekend |
| 00:52.42 | ChipX86 | my forecast says I'm going home |
| 00:52.51 | purple_cow | high of -10.6 on sunday |
| 00:53.04 | scanline | gnome needs some sort of calendar for weather forecasts |
| 00:53.06 | scanline | purple_cow: you should write one |
| 00:53.13 | purple_cow | yup |
| 00:53.45 | ChipX86|Gone | "Good judgement comes from experiences, most of which came from bad judgement." |
| 00:55.00 | kergoth | ChipX86|Gone: so true. |
| 00:55.13 | scanline | micah@navi micah $ ssh micah@cxtarget2.colorado.edu |
| 00:55.13 | scanline | micah@viper:~$ uptime |
| 00:55.13 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:55.17 | scanline | yay, power supply is still running |
| 01:09.10 | file | it was awfully warm here today... all the snow melted |
| 01:09.13 | purple_cow | scanline: are you still awake? |
| 01:53.42 | ChipX86 | yay! got my dvi-to-component adapter and I think my drive bay |
| 01:54.14 | kergoth | hehe, strange book |
| 01:54.14 | kergoth | "Thanks awfully. Oh, and would you mind if I possessed you and sought my bloody revenge?" |
| 01:54.18 | kergoth | "Sorry." |
| 01:54.20 | kergoth | "Oh, no, not at all. Perhaps next time." |
| 01:54.23 | kergoth | "Okay." |
| 01:54.33 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 01:54.34 | ChipX86 | what is that? |
| 01:54.45 | kergoth | its from this book "Bad Magic" |
| 01:54.57 | kergoth | right on the top of the cover it says: |
| 01:55.04 | kergoth | There are some things people weren't meant to know. |
| 01:55.09 | kergoth | Some people know those things anyway. Sucks to be them. |
| 01:55.31 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 01:58.37 | Samy | kergoth, hehe |
| 01:59.06 | ChipX86 | so what is it actually about? |
| 02:00.21 | kergoth | "Long ago, in sheer self-defense, most of the human race taught themselves to shut their magical third eye, blinding themselves to this supernatural world around them. As protection goes, it's not 100 percent effective, but it's still pretty good: if you can't see them, they can't see you. |
| 02:00.27 | kergoth | " |
| 02:01.05 | kergoth | its this story about this ragtag group of people who can open thier third eye. necromancers, totemists, alchemists, etc, not knowing wtf they're doing, but trying to save the world anyway |
| 02:01.09 | kergoth | pretty funny so far |
| 02:01.15 | Samy | haha |
| 02:01.16 | ChipX86 | hah, cool |
| 02:01.16 | Samy | Nice |
| 02:01.26 | Samy | kergoth, author is? |
| 02:01.40 | kergoth | stephan zielinski. its his first novel, apparently |
| 02:03.56 | kergoth | From the San Diego Institute of Necromancy Cookbook: THIN DOG: Take one dog. Feed for three months on human flesh. Eviscerate with bone knife; loop intestines around neck as beast perishes. Insert subdermal armor, if desired. Stuff with mastiff pelt and powdered wolf teeth. Bake at 200 degrees and zero humidity, basting regularly with fresh blood and rosemary, for seven days or until the hide is flaky and brittle to the touch. |
| 02:04.22 | Samy | haha |
| 02:07.19 | ChipX86 | the card reader/audio port/usb/firewire thing is neat |
| 02:16.42 | merlin262 | hrm, usually when I have these moods to write software, they go away after I start, |
| 02:17.40 | merlin262 | hi ChipX86, kergoth |
| 02:18.01 | ChipX86 | hi |
| 02:22.23 | merlin262 | ChipX86, what would you think of an IMAP server, that used an SQL backend to store messages and folders? |
| 02:22.28 | merlin262 | ChipX86, sick idea, or no? |
| 02:22.36 | ChipX86 | I don't see a reason for it personally |
| 02:24.42 | merlin262 | actually, the idea sprang up as a result of not having a decent console e-mail reader |
| 02:27.40 | ChipX86 | mutt |
| 02:30.22 | merlin262 | yeaaa, mutt is decent |
| 02:30.23 | merlin262 | hmm |
| 02:39.14 | rioter | http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/tools/69d3/ |
| 02:39.40 | ChipX86 | damnit! |
| 02:39.56 | ChipX86 | this dvi-to-component adapter doesn't match the dvi port on this particular radeon card |
| 02:40.04 | ChipX86 | it does on my desktop box though.. hrm.. |
| 02:42.27 | ChipX86 | I should just switch them |
| 02:43.50 | ChipX86 | bbl |
| 02:58.25 | kergoth | this guy in this book is sick. he has .. lockjaw of DOOM! |
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| 03:00.46 | merlin262 | wb ChipX86 p |
| 03:02.27 | ChipX86 | hmmm, blender actually works now using the 9200 on this box |
| 03:02.32 | ChipX86 | blessing in disguise |
| 03:12.51 | ChipX86 | cute. The screen is all fubar on the tv |
| 03:24.12 | lurgy | sshooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooffy! |
| 03:24.47 | ChipX86 | woahhh |
| 03:24.54 | ChipX86 | the quality is so clear, so sharp |
| 03:25.08 | ChipX86 | that was worth every penny |
| 03:25.27 | ChipX86 | well, so clear and sharp compared to what I had before |
| 03:28.07 | rioter | haha my friend has a apple display |
| 03:28.12 | rioter | that thing is so clear :( |
| 03:29.06 | purple_cow | ...doesn't match the dvi port? |
| 03:30.03 | ChipX86 | yeah, the radeon 9600 had a dvi port with the '-' and 4 pin holes around it. The 9200 didn't. The adapter had the 4 pins though |
| 03:35.09 | purple_cow | weird |
| 03:46.58 | rioter | i got a email from work saying they want me to come back early, think if i ignore it ill get fired? |
| 03:47.22 | file[laptop] | rioter: say you were out and aboot |
| 03:47.40 | rioter | yeah im just going to say that i hadnt had a chance to check my email |
| 03:48.20 | file[laptop] | how early though? |
| 03:49.11 | rioter | 2 days but i have plans |
| 03:49.40 | gonkulator | w00t |
| 03:49.54 | gonkulator | hmm... good day except for the pr0n bot |
| 03:50.02 | rioter | except? |
| 03:50.11 | rioter | pr0n makes a day better for me |
| 03:50.21 | gonkulator | heh, not for me, especially in my current situation |
| 03:51.04 | gonkulator | and now, I gots to run |
| 03:51.10 | file[laptop] | bye bye |
| 03:52.21 | file[laptop] | hrm, Swiss Chalet... free fries... nice |
| 03:58.15 | kergoth | "Tell me now." |
| 03:58.19 | kergoth | "Go fuck a jaguar." |
| 03:58.23 | kergoth | "fuck you, too." |
| 03:58.29 | kergoth | "No, that's what they said. Go fuck a jaguar." |
| 03:58.47 | kergoth | yep, definately an odd book alright :) |
| 03:59.28 | rioter | haha |
| 04:08.09 | kergoth | haha |
| 04:08.09 | kergoth | "Come on," says the Jew, "It'll be fun." |
| 04:08.10 | kergoth | "I'd love to, But I don't have--I mean, I didn't bring up my bathing suit." |
| 04:08.10 | kergoth | The engineers shrug. One says, "Doesn't matter to us. We're geeks. Nudity shorts out our brains and we end up dressi |
| 04:08.13 | kergoth | ng you with our eyes." |
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| 04:21.07 | ChipX86 | thank you MS for bugging me every reboot that I set my video settings to 640x480. I appreciate it, because I'm too stupid to know otherwise! |
| 04:21.22 | ChipX86 | ignore the fact that you have to know at least partially what you're doing before you can even set it to 640x480 |
| 04:34.48 | ChipX86 | now the TV is giving me a headache :/ |
| 04:34.53 | ChipX86 | there's no winning |
| 04:35.13 | file[laptop] | be happy! |
| 04:35.17 | ChipX86 | mmm |
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| 04:43.02 | Samy | Where can I see gonkulator's 8-head system again? That picture he had. |
| 04:56.30 | hardwire | I wanna see |
| 04:57.27 | file[laptop] | http://www.jurpa.us/images/nova-new.jpg |
| 04:59.40 | purple_cow | his 8-head setup is silly :P |
| 04:59.57 | file[laptop] | goodnight all |
| 05:00.26 | rioter | night |
| 05:01.25 | hardwire | thats 1 too many heads |
| 05:01.30 | hardwire | well |
| 05:01.34 | hardwire | 5-7 too many |
| 05:01.52 | hardwire | you shouldn't have to get a bakers rack for your personal computer. |
| 05:01.58 | purple_cow | heh |
| 05:02.07 | purple_cow | i wouldn't mind so much if they weren't such crappy monitors |
| 05:02.28 | purple_cow | and he had a setup that could actually handle it without saturating the PCI bus |
| 05:02.43 | hardwire | what did he do? |
| 05:02.55 | purple_cow | well, he's got 8 heads, right |
| 05:03.00 | purple_cow | which means lots of PCI video cards |
| 05:03.02 | hardwire | 6 that I count |
| 05:03.04 | hardwire | but yeh |
| 05:03.12 | purple_cow | well, he had 8 |
| 05:03.14 | hardwire | ok |
| 05:03.15 | hardwire | well |
| 05:03.21 | hardwire | I assume he had 3 dual output cards |
| 05:03.21 | purple_cow | or had 6, i don't remember |
| 05:03.37 | hardwire | all nvidia |
| 05:03.38 | purple_cow | 3 dual output cards running is still enough to saturate a single PCI buss |
| 05:03.52 | hardwire | well whats the solution? |
| 05:04.03 | purple_cow | non-consumer hardware :P |
| 05:04.14 | hardwire | well that cleared that up |
| 05:04.17 | hardwire | thanks purple_cow |
| 05:04.32 | purple_cow | like an sgi machine |
| 05:04.43 | hardwire | with a funky pci bus. |
| 05:04.53 | purple_cow | sgi video uses XIO, not PCI |
| 05:05.04 | purple_cow | and their systems are actually designed to have enough bandwidth for that |
| 05:05.04 | hardwire | the crossbar |
| 05:05.25 | hardwire | everything runs at full speed and has full bandwidth.. |
| 05:05.42 | hardwire | so |
| 05:05.52 | hardwire | was he using an sgi machine for the control box? |
| 05:06.02 | purple_cow | gonk? |
| 05:06.09 | hardwire | or just using an SGI machine for the X server |
| 05:06.15 | purple_cow | he uses commodity hardware |
| 05:06.27 | purple_cow | and so he can't even play music without buffer underruns |
| 05:06.56 | hardwire | probably shouldn't bother |
| 05:07.02 | hardwire | it requires too much patching. |
| 05:07.25 | hardwire | I should just buy a mpeg-2 decoder and call it good |
| 05:07.55 | purple_cow | that requires everything to be in mpeg-2 |
| 05:08.02 | hardwire | no |
| 05:08.18 | hardwire | it just requires that everything be transcoded on the fly into mpeg/mpeg-2 |
| 05:08.24 | purple_cow | eek |
| 05:08.33 | hardwire | for instance. |
| 05:08.45 | hardwire | mplayer has a video output for em8300 series mpeg-2 encoders |
| 05:08.49 | hardwire | it works wonderfully |
| 05:08.59 | hardwire | it just feeds MPEG-PES to the card. |
| 05:09.17 | hardwire | the A/V is perfectly syned at a hardware level |
| 05:09.24 | hardwire | its just half a second latent for commands |
| 05:09.32 | hardwire | but it doesn't drop a frame. |
| 05:12.02 | CIA-9 | spacegrant: 03maccarro * r717 10dino/trunk/fsw/ (6 files in 5 dirs): Fixed duplicate dependencies found when working with negative dependencies, added switch dependencies on various hardware devices |
| 05:34.43 | purple_cow | mmm |
| 05:34.52 | purple_cow | i loves chinese style curries so good |
| 05:35.26 | rioter | mmm cant say ive had one |
| 05:35.39 | rioter | but if its anything like a thai curry, sign me up |
| 05:40.34 | purple_cow | sorta kinda |
| 05:40.46 | purple_cow | they're more similar than not |
| 05:44.17 | CIA-9 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3002.1.1 10openembedded/packages/quilt/ (quilt_0.37.bb files/wiggle.patch): Apply patch to quilt to add a cmdline option for calling out 'wiggle' when dealing with rejects. |
| 05:51.53 | purple_cow | wiggle? |
| 05:52.43 | rioter | i figured it was best not to ask |
| 05:54.57 | kergoth | purple_cow: it's a tool for applying patches. it can go by word as well as by line, which means it can apply patches that 'patch' cannot |
| 05:55.13 | purple_cow | cool |
| 05:55.16 | kergoth | purple_cow: it also merges everything into an svn/cvs like conflict, rather than a .rej |
| 05:55.21 | kergoth | which is easier for most people to deal with |
| 05:55.47 | purple_cow | right now my patch arsenal just consists of unified diffs and patch -p0 |
| 05:55.57 | kergoth | look at the tools in 'patchutils' |
| 05:56.00 | kergoth | -very- useful |
| 05:56.08 | kergoth | lsdiff, filterdiff, recountdiff |
| 05:56.09 | kergoth | i use them daily |
| 05:56.37 | rioter | mmm |
| 05:56.46 | rioter | i can buy a firetruck for 10k laned in australia |
| 05:56.49 | rioter | tell me thats not tempting |
| 05:57.04 | purple_cow | that's sorely tempting |
| 05:58.38 | ChipX86 | ooh firetruck |
| 05:58.51 | rioter | landed even |
| 05:58.59 | purple_cow | landed? |
| 05:59.25 | rioter | yeah, its in japan, so 10k including including shipping/compliance |
| 05:59.39 | purple_cow | ahh |
| 06:00.22 | rioter | car i want isnt made in australia, so i have to import it, and a firetruck showed up on a auction site |
| 06:02.03 | purple_cow | :) |
| 06:02.53 | purple_cow | not enough to, you know, buy one |
| 06:02.54 | purple_cow | but still |
| 06:10.15 | kergoth | hmmmm |
| 06:10.31 | hardwire | things that make you go |
| 06:10.31 | hardwire | fuck |
| 06:10.49 | hardwire | I am hungry.. my girlfried is boycotting most of the food chart.. |
| 06:10.55 | hardwire | friend |
| 06:10.56 | hardwire | even |
| 06:11.05 | hardwire | basically she seems to be restricted to olives. |
| 06:11.09 | hardwire | wtf.. |
| 06:12.03 | hardwire | oh well |
| 06:15.15 | rioter | mmm |
| 06:15.20 | rioter | is she greek or italian? |
| 06:15.34 | purple_cow | mmm olives |
| 06:16.04 | rioter | i seem to have lost my stratovarious album |
| 06:16.05 | purple_cow | they're all tasty and stuff |
| 06:16.11 | purple_cow | stratovarious? |
| 06:16.19 | rioter | stratovarius even |
| 06:16.38 | purple_cow | what is it? |
| 06:16.43 | rioter | mmm |
| 06:17.04 | rioter | tis a band, not sure how you would describe them |
| 06:17.08 | rioter | perhaps operatic powermetal |
| 06:17.20 | purple_cow | ahh |
| 06:17.21 | purple_cow | shoutey music |
| 06:17.26 | rioter | nah |
| 06:17.35 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 06:17.36 | darth_mall | hmm... so that boss is a little tough |
| 06:17.36 | rioter | very clean vocals |
| 06:19.27 | darth_mall | anyone ever used texmaker before? |
| 06:20.22 | purple_cow | nope |
| 06:20.25 | darth_mall | purple_cow: did you say there was a gtk frontend for lyx? |
| 06:20.40 | darth_mall | omfg! it's Jack! |
| 06:21.12 | purple_cow | darth_mall: qt |
| 06:21.23 | ChipX86 | he was toying with making a gtk interface |
| 06:21.27 | ChipX86 | but then he became sane again |
| 06:21.39 | darth_mall | ah |
| 06:21.47 | purple_cow | it's not great, but not as terrifying as the XForms UI |
| 06:23.16 | purple_cow | texmaker looks intriguing |
| 06:23.25 | purple_cow | i like lyx's wys part |
| 06:23.29 | darth_mall | dammit |
| 06:23.40 | darth_mall | I just remembered what I wanted at target... heh |
| 06:23.47 | purple_cow | haha |
| 06:23.52 | purple_cow | what was it? |
| 06:24.10 | darth_mall | another file folder thing like I use for my school papers, to use for character sheets |
| 06:25.10 | darth_mall | I like G'Kar ^^ |
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| 06:35.30 | purple_cow | wow, i'm almost finished with these |
| 06:35.30 | purple_cow | i wonder if they've released the rest on dvd |
| 06:36.26 | purple_cow | looks like not :( |
| 06:42.48 | purple_cow | oh bother |
| 06:42.53 | purple_cow | looks like i've finished these after all :( |
| 06:45.54 | purple_cow | the tanker has 6000 hulls, so unlike me, it's entirely leak-proof! |
| 06:52.40 | darth_mall | lol |
| 06:54.10 | purple_cow | good way to avoid frostbite, folks. put your hands between your buttocks. that's nature's pocket. |
| 06:56.10 | purple_cow | the world is definitely a better place because of zoidberg |
| 06:57.23 | ChipX86 | "Ha ha ha ha ha. It's funny because it's poisonous!" |
| 06:59.22 | ChipX86 | yay Flexo |
| 07:00.19 | purple_cow | that's a good old-fashioned gun, simple point and click interface |
| 07:07.29 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 07:07.35 | purple_cow | Present Day (i.e. The Future) |
| 07:14.02 | ChipX86 | "Blender! *You* stole the atom?" "Yeah, but I can explain! It's very valuable." |
| 07:14.28 | kergoth | hehe |
| 07:16.03 | darth_mall | there, room's a bit tidier |
| 07:16.13 | ChipX86 | I have to do that :/ |
| 07:18.30 | purple_cow | man, i can't wait until i'm old enough to feel ways about stuff |
| 07:19.00 | purple_cow | ^^ |
| 07:19.04 | ChipX86 | I want to do that.. I j did that though |
| 07:19.07 | ChipX86 | er, there goes the power |
| 07:19.27 | ChipX86 | s/j/just/ |
| 07:22.36 | purple_cow | "leela? bender? we're going grave robbing" "i'll get my kit!" |
| 07:22.53 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 07:23.41 | purple_cow | what a great show |
| 07:29.43 | ChipX86 | this is horrible. I can't get myself to clean this place |
| 07:31.11 | darth_mall | there, money all frivolously spent |
| 07:31.17 | ChipX86 | on what? |
| 07:31.18 | purple_cow | darth_mall: whatdja get? |
| 07:33.07 | darth_mall | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2290268214 |
| 07:33.18 | ChipX86 | ooh |
| 07:37.09 | purple_cow | "i don't know what else to say, so i'll just say it: okie dokie, see you there!" |
| 07:48.36 | purple_cow | hehehe |
| 07:48.41 | purple_cow | Bender's humor by Microsoft Joke |
| 07:49.43 | nullpuppy | hmm |
| 07:50.03 | nullpuppy | it appears someone /msg'd me regarding free porn about 6 hrs ago... |
| 07:50.11 | ChipX86 | spambot |
| 07:50.16 | nullpuppy | and on a completely unrelated note |
| 07:50.27 | nullpuppy | i got the batman movie staring Adam West :D |
| 07:51.04 | purple_cow | we need scratch and sniff lotteries |
| 07:51.09 | purple_cow | nullpuppy: :) |
| 07:51.20 | darth_mall | nullpuppy: =D |
| 07:51.47 | darth_mall | we should probably rip that sometime |
| 07:52.09 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 07:52.36 | nullpuppy | i also picked up the special edition of Monty Python and the Holy Grail |
| 07:53.15 | darth_mall | ooh |
| 07:53.26 | purple_cow | and the other hamburger will ALSO be made of your lungs! |
| 07:58.27 | nullpuppy | Subtitles for people who don't like the film: A way of attracting more people to buy this DVD by providing completely irrelevant subtitles, specially written by Oscar-nominee William Shakespeare |
| 07:58.44 | purple_cow | i don't like having disks crammed into me! unless they're oreos! and then only in the mouth! |
| 07:59.51 | nullpuppy | that sounds suspiciously like Fry :) |
| 08:03.17 | nullpuppy | oooh, this looks interesting |
| 08:03.35 | nullpuppy | Monty Python and the Holy Grail in *LEGO!* |
| 08:03.44 | purple_cow | you've never seen that? |
| 08:03.52 | darth_mall | I don't think I've seen that |
| 08:04.18 | nullpuppy | nope, haven't seen it |
| 08:22.34 | nullpuppy | who doesn't? :) |
| 08:22.43 | darth_mall | a rhyming becktionary? |
| 08:23.03 | purple_cow | darth_mall: of course |
| 08:36.43 | ChipX86 | what do you use to connect wasabi to the tv? |
| 08:37.17 | purple_cow | a cable? |
| 08:37.21 | ChipX86 | I mean what kind? |
| 08:37.26 | purple_cow | svideo->composite |
| 08:37.32 | scanline | the kind with electrical tape and heat shrink tubing |
| 08:37.43 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 08:38.47 | purple_cow | enough about your promiscuous mother, hermes! |
| 08:38.58 | scanline | this is great... some guy has been email me asking me where all Smartdata's code is, 'cause it's GPL'ed right? |
| 08:39.12 | purple_cow | haha |
| 08:40.39 | scanline | ooh |
| 08:40.44 | scanline | I wonder if Fluke makes one of those... |
| 08:41.23 | scanline | in our experimental physics lecture today, the prof was trying to emphasize how interesting measuring g could be, so he was showing all these pictures of gravimiters |
| 08:41.25 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 08:41.34 | purple_cow | zoidberg has one of the best chess strategies i've seen |
| 08:41.37 | scanline | apparently they make 'em accurate to 10^-6 or so and use them to look for oil :) |
| 08:42.00 | darth_mall | mornin' scanline |
| 08:42.06 | scanline | hi' darth_mall |
| 08:42.14 | darth_mall | purple_cow: how do you tell lyx to use the QT interface? |
| 08:42.22 | purple_cow | darth_mall: emerge USE="qt" |
| 08:42.28 | scanline | ow |
| 08:42.43 | ChipX86 | hrm, that HD I bought a while back is actually pretty noisy. Haven't used it until now |
| 08:43.08 | scanline | Filesystem Size Used Available Use% Mounted on |
| 08:43.08 | scanline | /dev/mtdblock3 15.3M 14.2M 1.0M 93% / |
| 08:43.12 | darth_mall | purple_cow: I added at to my USE flags before I emerged it |
| 08:43.22 | scanline | hmm, I should set this system up with NFS homedirs |
| 08:43.28 | darth_mall | but I'm not convinced that when I run it it's QT, because it's still pretty ugly |
| 08:43.34 | scanline | haha |
| 08:43.34 | purple_cow | darth_mall: lemme see |
| 08:43.35 | slimspace | hi everyone |
| 08:43.42 | scanline | hiya slimspace |
| 08:45.08 | scanline | slimspace: it can wait, you probably have something more interesting to do on a friday night |
| 08:45.13 | scanline | slimspace: like helping me debug CIA! |
| 08:45.20 | slimspace | hehe |
| 08:45.40 | slimspace | meh, I was thinking of going to bed, actually, but I thought I'd look to see if oe had any packages. |
| 08:45.50 | scanline | pff, you and your "bed" |
| 08:45.52 | scanline | I never sleep! |
| 08:45.58 | scanline | especially not for the last several hours! |
| 08:45.59 | slimspace | hehe, I know |
| 08:46.09 | slimspace | seems portmap is there... |
| 08:46.30 | scanline | I'd be really surprised if it wasn't |
| 08:46.37 | slimspace | hmm, and a nice nfs-utils package. |
| 08:46.38 | scanline | people like to use NFS on embedded systems, especially the NSLU2 :) |
| 08:46.52 | slimspace | :) |
| 08:47.24 | scanline | hmm |
| 08:47.40 | scanline | my bank account should be happier after depositing all my extra cash and getting those receipts reimbursed |
| 08:49.01 | ChipX86 | maybe I'll move this drive to athena where I can't hear it |
| 08:49.45 | scanline | you don't live anywhere close to MIT, so I'd imagine that would work |
| 08:49.53 | purple_cow | ChipX86: =D |
| 08:49.55 | scanline | yay, red dwarf! |
| 08:49.56 | ChipX86 | boo for being all skippy |
| 08:51.41 | purple_cow | doomsday device?! aaaa! now the ball's in farnsworth's court! |
| 08:53.32 | ChipX86 | completely unacceptable. |
| 08:54.12 | ChipX86 | is it safe to assume this is my rendering and not the video? |
| 08:55.11 | purple_cow | hmmhmmhmm? |
| 08:55.18 | purple_cow | is this from navi? |
| 08:55.20 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 08:55.35 | ChipX86 | in the opening sequence from the first episode, the ship kind of jumps forward a little bit at times |
| 08:55.37 | purple_cow | try upgrading your XviD? |
| 08:56.02 | ChipX86 | bah all this was working fine before I messed with it tonight and "upgraded" the card |
| 08:56.13 | purple_cow | maybe you don't have Xv? |
| 08:56.20 | ChipX86 | this is Windows |
| 08:56.26 | slimspace | hmm, rex doesn't have an nfs server... |
| 08:56.29 | purple_cow | YAY! the scary door :) |
| 08:59.46 | lurgy | purple_cow: she was too drunk to have a reasonable conversation :p |
| 09:00.16 | purple_cow | heh |
| 09:11.42 | scanline | ooh, new technique for securely mounting wires to altoids boxes |
| 09:18.46 | ChipX86 | you should use squirrels for that purpose. |
| 09:18.51 | darth_mall | welp, I'm going to bed |
| 09:19.14 | darth_mall | purple_cow: you should make sure and keep the volume down |
| 09:19.27 | lurgy | ChipX86: yay red dwarf! :D |
| 09:19.48 | ChipX86 | can't watch it. Too jerky. Must fix box. |
| 09:19.54 | ChipX86 | and must go to bed soon |
| 09:20.04 | lurgy | :'( |
| 09:20.04 | ChipX86 | found the ideal resolution for the tv though, flicker-wise |
| 09:20.14 | ChipX86 | yay MythTV FAQ |
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| 09:25.04 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6305 10therm/pytherm/web.py: Show "No data" where necessary rather than exploding |
| 09:29.46 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6306 10therm/pytherm/web.py: Also don't blow up if a source has never received any packets |
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| 09:49.02 | ChipX86 | g'night everyone |
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| 09:57.57 | slimspace | scanline: poke |
| 09:58.00 | scanline | ow |
| 09:58.08 | slimspace | hehe |
| 09:58.18 | scanline | yes yes yes yes? |
| 09:58.44 | slimspace | just so you know, I'm doing upgrades on rex, and reverted the make.conf ACCEPT_KEYWORDS back to x86. I also kept all versions of anything that was previously installed, so only upgrades would happen. |
| 09:59.30 | scanline | hmm. I think there was something we needed ~x86 for, but I can't remember at the moment... there's always packages.keywords or whatever that file is :) |
| 09:59.44 | slimspace | yeah, I added all the newer packages to that file. |
| 09:59.51 | scanline | ah, neat |
| 09:59.54 | slimspace | You had originally set it up for the mono packages |
| 10:00.02 | scanline | ah, that's right |
| 10:00.05 | scanline | so you have mono and xsp in there? |
| 10:00.13 | slimspace | yeah, I kept all that. |
| 10:00.17 | scanline | cool |
| 10:00.51 | slimspace | They'll catch up to stable once the versions get high enough though. |
| 10:01.07 | scanline | ah |
| 10:01.29 | scanline | http://navi.cx/therm/source/apt2_fridge/ |
| 10:01.30 | scanline | =} |
| 10:01.52 | slimspace | hehe |
| 10:02.13 | slimspace | hmm, pretty interesting jump in temperature in my room since I started upgrading golem |
| 10:02.23 | scanline | mmm, jump |
| 10:02.43 | scanline | just bring your therm by any time and I can upgrade it to the 12-bit sensors |
| 10:02.51 | purple_cow | if a better use |
| 10:02.55 | purple_cow | for technology exists |
| 10:02.57 | purple_cow | i haven't seen it |
| 10:03.01 | slimspace | cool, I'll do that sometime this coming week. |
| 10:03.15 | scanline | purple_cow: :) |
| 10:03.29 | purple_cow | i'm am practicing |
| 10:03.34 | purple_cow | to speak in haiku one day |
| 10:03.36 | purple_cow | it is really hard :) |
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| 10:07.15 | scanline | oh no! |
| 10:08.27 | purple_cow | scanline: the seal on the fridge is now better than before the wire was there ;) |
| 10:08.43 | scanline | hah |
| 10:09.28 | purple_cow | hehe, the venus de venus |
| 10:14.21 | scanline | wobblik |
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| 10:22.17 | purple_cow | oooo |
| 10:22.18 | purple_cow | http://www.trowbridge.org/beagle-im-logs.png |
| 10:25.41 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6307 10cia/LibCIA/XML.py: |
| 10:25.41 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: w00000t! At least in my tests so far, this appears to plug CIA's enormous memory |
| 10:25.41 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: leak. The leak occurred when XMLObject loaded data from an existing DOM tree. |
| 10:25.41 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: This isn't a fix for that bug- just a workaround that will test whether it's |
| 10:25.41 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: really the cause of our big leak. |
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| 10:27.21 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6308 10cia/LibCIA/IRC/Network.py: Update the list of worldforge IRC servers. This change has been on the CIA server for a while, but I forgot to commit apparently. |
| 10:27.46 | scanline | here goes nothin' |
| 10:28.24 | scanline | err... wtf |
| 10:28.46 | scanline | ah |
| 10:28.55 | scanline | silly server doesn't have one of the modules my new debug code uses |
| 10:29.38 | scanline | hrm |
| 10:35.17 | scanline | oh, wow.. a large amount of that spew is RSS |
| 10:35.48 | scanline | still at 34MB resident |
| 10:35.53 | scanline | let's hope it stays there... |
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| 10:41.09 | scanline | oooh |
| 10:41.15 | scanline | memory usage is holding pretty steady |
| 10:41.19 | scanline | usually it'd be up to 60MB or so by now |
| 10:42.13 | purple_cow | hurray for no leaks |
| 10:42.16 | purple_cow | it's a shame about freenode |
| 10:42.19 | purple_cow | CIA is great :) |
| 10:42.22 | scanline | mmmyep |
| 10:42.39 | scanline | well, hopefully after the leak is fixed and it's on a more reliable server, we won't need to reconnect nearly as much |
| 10:42.50 | scanline | it'd still be nice to have the IRC networks in a separate daemon though |
| 10:43.00 | scanline | so I can restart the main CIA daemon without losing IRC for a little while |
| 10:43.11 | scanline | it'd be like an IRC proxy or something... |
| 10:43.54 | scanline | hrmm, 39MB |
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| 10:47.31 | purple_cow | yay |
| 10:47.39 | purple_cow | my brain is starting to think in syllable cadences :) |
| 10:47.43 | scanline | ooh, 37MB |
| 10:47.46 | scanline | it actually went down |
| 10:48.09 | scanline | virtual is at 146MB, but I doubt that matters much |
| 10:48.53 | scanline | huh.. why is there only one twistd process now? |
| 10:49.52 | purple_cow | yay, p5 |
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| 11:07.19 | scanline | yay, finally |
| 11:07.20 | purple_cow | like a baloon and...something bad happens! |
| 11:07.24 | scanline | =) |
| 11:07.35 | scanline | eep |
| 11:07.37 | scanline | 42MB resident |
| 11:08.00 | scanline | of course, there might have been more than one leak :( |
| 11:08.26 | purple_cow | what a great show |
| 11:08.29 | scanline | yep |
| 11:24.48 | CIA-10 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6310 10evo/calendar/gui/dialogs/ (4 files): break some stuff |
| 11:26.27 | CIA-10 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6311 10evo/calendar/gui/dialogs/: hush hush |
| 11:26.41 | purple_cow | ok, time for bed, i do believe |
| 11:27.42 | scanline | silly purple_cow |
| 11:30.34 | scanline | http://www.linode.com/products/network.cfm |
| 11:30.35 | scanline | cute |
| 11:31.08 | scanline | real data centers with real equipment :) |
| 11:33.19 | scanline | huh |
| 11:33.25 | scanline | purple_cow: I think X's power management is enabled |
| 11:33.31 | scanline | the screen is blank, but I can still control freevo |
| 11:34.29 | Samy | My eyes burn. |
| 11:37.19 | scanline | WTF |
| 11:37.25 | scanline | now cia's up to 120MB resident |
| 11:37.30 | scanline | guess there's another unrelated leak |
| 11:40.58 | CIA-10 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6312 10wasabi/sys/xorg.conf: Add wasabi's xorg.conf |
| 11:43.18 | purple_cow | yay voltaire's newest |
| 11:43.21 | purple_cow | his lyrics are so very neat |
| 11:43.30 | purple_cow | have you listened yet? |
| 11:43.36 | scanline | nyet |
| 11:43.41 | scanline | how does X start on wasabi? |
| 11:44.14 | purple_cow | ssh freevo@wasabi |
| 11:44.14 | purple_cow | startx |
| 11:44.16 | purple_cow | :P |
| 11:44.21 | scanline | heh |
| 11:44.26 | scanline | guess I'll fix that too |
| 11:45.11 | purple_cow | oh no! |
| 11:53.21 | scanline | hmm |
| 11:53.28 | scanline | it'd be rather nice if we could get boot status on the VFD |
| 11:53.48 | purple_cow | ooo |
| 11:54.54 | scanline | could just put something in the mi6k firmware to put up an initial "Booting..." message until it gets a signal from the kernel module |
| 11:54.58 | scanline | but it'd be nice to have details |
| 11:55.50 | scanline | hm |
| 11:56.02 | scanline | in this custom permissions file, maybe it needs misc/uinput rather than just uinput? |
| 11:56.43 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 11:56.49 | scanline | ah, yep |
| 11:56.54 | purple_cow | cool |
| 11:56.56 | scanline | all the non-custom perms use misc/* |
| 11:57.10 | scanline | I should prolly throw this udev stuff in svn, and eventually the init script |
| 11:57.29 | scanline | we could at least at the init script level pipe a little progress stuff into the VFD |
| 11:58.23 | scanline | hmm, there's an inputpipe user? |
| 11:58.29 | scanline | cute |
| 11:58.47 | scanline | erg... maybe I need a little python proggie to show status on the VFD |
| 11:58.58 | scanline | it's easy to put text up with echo, but you need ioctls to actually turn on the power to it |
| 11:59.27 | scanline | hm, it could even use vfdwidgets.py :) |
| 11:59.32 | scanline | for maximum overkillosity |
| 12:00.48 | purple_cow | scanline: one phrase that was popular within my kenpo school a few years ago was ``it's not overkill, it's overskill'' ;) |
| 12:00.56 | scanline | hehe |
| 12:01.29 | scanline | after I fiddle with wasabi some, I should hit CIA a few more times with my leak profiler |
| 12:02.57 | scanline | g'night |
| 12:35.12 | CIA-10 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6313 10wasabi/devices/mi6k/userspace/ (setup.py vfd-echo.py): Add a vfd-echo script that displays short messages with minimal vfdwidgets-provided formatting and effects. |
| 12:36.40 | Samy | Night purple_cow |
| 12:37.18 | CIA-10 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6314 10wasabi/devices/mi6k/userspace/vfd-echo.py: Default to using the lowest brightness, rather than leaving it unset |
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| 13:00.21 | CIA-10 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6315 10wasabi/sys/ (XF86Config freevo.initscript xsession): Update xsession for 800x600 and new paths, and add an init.d script |
| 13:01.30 | CIA-10 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6316 10wasabi/sys/udev/ (. 40-custom.permissions 40-custom.rules): Add udev rules for all our funky custom hardware |
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| 13:13.33 | CIA-10 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6317 10wasabi/sys/ (init.d-functions.sh xsession): Show status on the VFD as init scripts run and X clients start |
| 13:16.13 | scanline | flimshaw! |
| 13:16.20 | scanline | purple_cow never installed snes9x |
| 13:16.26 | scanline | no wonder the games plugin wasn't loading |
| 13:17.53 | CIA-10 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6318 10wasabi/snes9x-fullscreen.patch: Modify for 800x600 |
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| 13:22.59 | CIA-10 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6319 10wasabi/local_conf.py: Activate the games plugin explicitly, so that it loads even when freevo doesn't autodetect our funky snes9x setup |
| 13:24.52 | CIA-10 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6320 10wasabi/local_conf.py: Specify the priority level for the games plugin, so it shows up in its usual place rather than at the top of the main menu. |
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| 14:08.24 | scanline | mm, oatmeal |
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| 15:31.25 | scanline | blah |
| 15:33.29 | scanline | hiya |
| 15:33.58 | file[laptop] | how goeth it |
| 15:34.04 | scanline | not bad |
| 15:34.16 | scanline | got wasabi muchly fixed up... but CIA is still leaking |
| 15:34.49 | file[laptop] | a slow leak or a deadly leak? |
| 15:35.52 | scanline | well, it's fairly fast... but it hasn't stopped CIA from running all this time |
| 15:36.04 | scanline | I just need to fix it before moving CIA to a machine that doesn't have way too much RAM |
| 15:36.07 | file[laptop] | ah |
| 15:36.24 | scanline | well, and that I expect to actually stay up for multiple weeks |
| 15:38.21 | scanline | uh oh, they're hepped up on goofballs again |
| 15:57.38 | *** join/#tacobeam orchid (orchid@orchid.user) |
| 16:17.44 | file[laptop] | boo orchid |
| 16:18.00 | orchid | yay file[laptop] !! |
| 16:39.47 | scanline | best use of technology ever |
| 17:03.43 | CIA-10 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6321 10cia/ (LibCIA/XML.py doc/README doc/index): Port CIA from Domlette to PyXML's 4DOM |
| 17:05.39 | CIA-10 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6322 10cia/LibCIA/ColorText.py: Fix test cases that broke when switching DOMs- 4DOM generates different but symantically equivalent XML strings in some cases. |
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| 17:31.38 | darth_mall | scanline: is it going to take a lot of work to set up the printer? |
| 17:32.20 | CIA-10 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6323 10cia/LibCIA/ (Formatters/Commit.py XML.py): |
| 17:32.20 | CIA-10 | navi-misc: Move XML parse error logging into XML.parseString so it isn't XMLObject |
| 17:32.20 | CIA-10 | navi-misc: specific, and add namespace declarations to the Nouvelle tags embedded within |
| 17:32.20 | CIA-10 | navi-misc: CommitToXHTML component trees. This fixes basic stats page rendering using the |
| 17:32.20 | CIA-10 | navi-misc: new DOM. |
| 17:32.32 | scanline | darth_mall: probably, but I'm not sure |
| 17:32.52 | scanline | darth_mall: if you just want something quick, you could plug it into navi temporarily :) |
| 17:33.11 | darth_mall | hmm... actually, I might try plugging into my laptop |
| 17:33.33 | darth_mall | otherwise I'll just head over to kinko's |
| 17:33.46 | darth_mall | might have to head over to kinko's anyway, I'm not sure if they'll print very well |
| 17:33.51 | scanline | I need to get the OE stuffs on yoshi upgraded and build warzok some updated packages, including cups |
| 17:34.16 | darth_mall | then I won't bother you to do it, I'll just hook up my laptop ^^ |
| 17:34.30 | scanline | mmkay |
| 17:34.46 | scanline | hmmm |
| 17:34.52 | scanline | methinks CIA is working correctly with this new DOM |
| 17:35.16 | scanline | suppose I should just put it through the acid test by loading it onto cia.navi.cx |
| 17:35.55 | scanline | if I can get this damn thing to stop leaking so I can determine how much memory I actually need, I can plonk down some money on a linode box |
| 17:36.18 | scanline | hmm, test cases pass |
| 17:36.23 | scanline | but CIA desparately needs more test cases :P |
| 17:38.23 | scanline | here goes nothing.. again... |
| 17:39.16 | scanline | ewww |
| 17:39.31 | scanline | leaking or not, the memory usage with 4DOM is a lot less nice than with Domlette |
| 17:40.36 | lurgy | heh |
| 17:42.48 | scanline | a 64MB machine is $20/month, a 128MB machine is $40 :P |
| 17:43.36 | scanline | I guess if this does fix the leak, I can start putting some time toward general memory optimizations |
| 17:57.43 | darth_mall | it'd be a fun way to submit homework assignments |
| 17:58.22 | file[laptop] | hail ChipX86 |
| 17:58.36 | scanline | darth_mall: exactly |
| 17:58.47 | darth_mall | tie assignments to rocks and launch them at campus |
| 17:59.11 | scanline | they're just a good way to transport goods and services in general |
| 17:59.20 | ChipX86 | hey |
| 17:59.47 | darth_mall | yeah |
| 18:00.42 | ChipX86 | I made a decision I'm happy with! |
| 18:00.55 | lurgy | yay! |
| 18:01.01 | darth_mall | ChipX86: you got a live turkey? |
| 18:01.04 | ChipX86 | I don't care if people use galago or not. It's for ME! |
| 18:01.12 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 18:01.18 | ChipX86 | desktop infrastructure people can do what they want |
| 18:01.18 | file[laptop] | ooh |
| 18:02.32 | ChipX86 | also, I'm apparently a sexy beast |
| 18:02.38 | darth_mall | well duh |
| 18:02.48 | darth_mall | geez, I coulda told you that |
| 18:02.48 | ChipX86 | alex said so last night! |
| 18:02.51 | file[laptop] | ChipX86: we already knew that |
| 18:02.54 | ChipX86 | :P |
| 18:30.48 | scanline | hmm |
| 18:30.55 | scanline | anyone ever heard of the 'cell' type in Python? |
| 18:31.05 | scanline | it seems to be builtin, but I haven't seen it documented before |
| 18:31.17 | scanline | I'm guessing it might be something used internally to track weakrefs |
| 18:31.45 | ChipX86 | what graphics card is wasabi using, and how is the flicker on the tv? |
| 18:32.02 | scanline | right now it's using a GeForce 2 I think |
| 18:32.14 | scanline | until the fan burned out on it, it had been using a GF3 for a while |
| 18:32.44 | scanline | at 800x600 you can see some color fringing and a little flickering on features that are smaller than one TV line |
| 18:33.11 | scanline | on images and non-tiny text there's no noticeable badness |
| 18:33.21 | ChipX86 | ok |
| 18:33.48 | scanline | gotta love NTSC :P |
| 18:33.53 | ChipX86 | yeah. |
| 18:33.54 | scanline | woo |
| 18:33.58 | ChipX86 | I keep thinking of just getting an HDTV |
| 18:34.03 | scanline | it loosk like I fixed the leak |
| 18:34.09 | ChipX86 | but I don't want to pay that kind of money |
| 18:34.18 | scanline | and a lot of this extra RAM usage might just be due to a bug in the XPath cache |
| 18:35.33 | scanline | methinks the compiled XPaths aren't playing nicely with weakrefs.. so maybe I'll just ditch the weakrefs and keep XPaths cached pretty much indefinitely |
| 18:36.08 | scanline | even though it's possible to use competely arbitrary XPaths with CIA, there are really only a dozen or so that anyone actually uses |
| 18:38.50 | *** join/#tacobeam CIA-9 (~CIA@to.je.spocco.com) |
| 18:39.59 | scanline | hrmph |
| 18:40.24 | scanline | I should probably just go for the linode 128... whether I can optimize this much or not, I'd like room for expansion, and the extra CPU alottment |
| 18:46.38 | ChipX86 | *grumble* windows tells me on every boot that I don't actually want the display resolution I specifically set for this |
| 18:46.48 | ChipX86 | in time, this is moving to linux |
| 18:47.50 | rioter | pfft ChipX86 windows knows better than you do |
| 18:47.58 | ChipX86 | apparently :P |
| 18:48.14 | rioter | windows is telling me to goto bed, so i better listen, night |
| 18:48.35 | ChipX86 | does anyone know if the radeon drivers still screw up with XFree86 4.3+ and xorg? |
| 18:50.08 | ChipX86 | at this point, the radeon is the only thing holding me back |
| 18:56.00 | nullpuppy | ChipX86: you mean the ati drivers? |
| 18:56.10 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 18:56.36 | nullpuppy | they're not the best, and i think theres a memory leak or something ... but they're not the best |
| 18:56.50 | nullpuppy | at least in my experiences... |
| 18:57.00 | ChipX86 | no kidding :) |
| 18:57.04 | ChipX86 | I have them on three computers.. |
| 18:57.29 | ChipX86 | they should devote more resources to those drivers |
| 18:57.36 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 18:58.09 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6325 10cia/LibCIA/XML.py: |
| 18:58.09 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: Use a normal dictionary as our XPath cache, not a WeakValueDictionary. Ideal |
| 18:58.09 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: performance with either should be similar with a typical CIA load. The worst |
| 18:58.09 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: case performance of a normal dictionary is worse, but the WeakValueDictionary |
| 18:58.09 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: seems to leak compiled XPath objects. |
| 18:58.18 | ChipX86 | yay Zim |
| 18:58.31 | nullpuppy | yay |
| 18:58.43 | scanline | hmm |
| 18:58.49 | scanline | linode does seem to have the best pricing on UML hosting |
| 19:02.00 | ChipX86 | hmm, GeForce MX4000, 64MB, DVI, VGA, S-Video out, $33 |
| 19:02.48 | ChipX86 | 128MB for $48 |
| 19:03.16 | ChipX86 | tempted |
| 19:04.38 | ChipX86 | I should make do with what I have for now though |
| 19:04.40 | darth_mall | yup, I'm farily certain now that I can't use anything except vim for TeX |
| 19:05.12 | scanline | hehe |
| 19:05.28 | ChipX86 | heh, I love how people are spending $50 on a graphics card and then rating it lower because it wouldn't play doom 3 at full speed |
| 19:06.41 | scanline | hah. apparently linode requires a telephone callback to verify accounts |
| 19:13.32 | scanline | wow. their terms of service allow them to charge a $500 fine to customers that get their IPs blacklisted by spam filters |
| 19:19.17 | kergoth | morning |
| 19:20.35 | scanline | hi |
| 19:28.23 | scanline | huh |
| 19:28.30 | scanline | now CIA is leaking a large number of empty lists |
| 19:28.42 | file[laptop] | scanline: seems to be a never ending battle for |
| 19:28.44 | file[laptop] | er for you |
| 19:29.35 | scanline | well, CIA's memory usage patterns seem to be good at confusing python's garbage collector :P |
| 19:29.51 | file[laptop] | poor CIA |
| 19:36.00 | scanline | hmm |
| 19:36.04 | scanline | yowza |
| 19:36.36 | scanline | 4DOM's support for DOM2 events causes it to create 7 empty lists per XML node |
| 19:39.15 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6326 10cia/LibCIA/XML.py: Add a hack to save memory by disabling DOM 2 event support |
| 19:45.52 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6328 10cia/LibCIA/XML.py: Whoops, also disable event firings so we don't break everything by having an empty supportedEvents list. |
| 19:49.00 | scanline | hrmph... still a lot more XPath instances than I'd expect |
| 19:51.58 | darth_mall | arg |
| 19:54.13 | lurgy | http://bash.org/?244321 <- i love that quote :) |
| 19:54.46 | scanline | :) |
| 19:54.54 | scanline | hehe, Mozilla Waterbird |
| 19:55.51 | orchid | lurgy: http://bash.org/?3936 best one ever :P |
| 19:56.35 | lurgy | hehehehe |
| 19:56.54 | lurgy | orchid: that one competes pretty well... :) |
| 19:59.23 | file[laptop] | okay let's see if I need to modify this at all.. |
| 20:03.29 | lurgy | yes you do |
| 20:07.41 | nullpuppy | hmm, how do you turn off away msg's in irssi? |
| 20:11.57 | file[laptop] | lurgy: you're absolutely right |
| 20:12.18 | file[laptop] | I should have never doubted you |
| 20:32.31 | scanline | darth_mall: http://navi.cx/therm/source/navi/ |
| 20:32.55 | scanline | you can pretty clearly see when someone closes the door :P |
| 20:33.16 | file[laptop] | indeed |
| 20:41.22 | lurgy | heh |
| 20:41.22 | lurgy | e |
| 20:41.32 | lurgy | http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail120.html |
| 20:42.04 | samyb | Hey guys |
| 20:42.07 | samyb | Some nice thread on AE |
| 20:42.22 | samyb | Can you guys name me one of your favorite open-source innovations (innovative to the software field in general) |
| 20:42.28 | samyb | Something recent, I have a bunch of historical stuff. |
| 20:42.30 | scanline | whoa.. firefox makes installing Flash really easy now |
| 20:42.31 | scanline | spiffy |
| 20:42.41 | lurgy | samyb: cluster computing? :) |
| 20:43.17 | lurgy | hehehe |
| 20:43.22 | lurgy | http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail119.html starts off even better :) |
| 20:43.31 | scanline | samyb: new programming languages, particularly python :) |
| 20:44.27 | samyb | Ok |
| 20:44.59 | file[laptop] | CIA is still gone? boo, I'm doing commits |
| 20:45.19 | scanline | file[laptop]: it's running, it just takes a while to reconnect to Freenode |
| 20:45.55 | file[laptop] | oh well |
| 20:46.12 | scanline | it's in #commits and such, just not here yet :P |
| 20:47.34 | lurgy | http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail118.html heeeehehehe |
| 20:47.42 | lurgy | maybe i'll just spend today watching strong bad email |
| 20:47.56 | samyb | lurgy, mind if I reference your real name? |
| 20:48.21 | file[laptop] | samyb: mmm Asterisk is my favorite |
| 20:48.27 | file[laptop] | then again, I'm biased |
| 20:48.42 | file[laptop] | Open Source Telephony, woot |
| 20:50.30 | lurgy | samyb: no problem |
| 20:50.36 | scanline | hehe |
| 20:50.38 | samyb | purple_cow, how about you? :) |
| 20:50.48 | samyb | lurgy, I decided to reference nicknames, too many people ;) |
| 20:51.04 | scanline | purple_cow: ahoy-hoy! |
| 20:51.42 | purple_cow | cool therm graph for the fridge :) |
| 20:51.50 | scanline | yup |
| 20:52.50 | file | hrm our LAX gateway seems to be working good for outbound toll-free... very very good |
| 20:52.52 | scanline | the living room graph is also a lot nicer now that we have a more accurate sensor |
| 20:52.58 | scanline | you can actually see when the heater is running and when it isn't |
| 20:53.49 | file[laptop] | oh now I understand what my boss means... |
| 20:54.07 | scanline | hmm |
| 20:57.43 | purple_cow | scanline: what experiment is that? |
| 20:58.28 | scanline | purple_cow: seeing how fast I can cool it off with the big fan after darth_mall had the door closed :) |
| 21:05.30 | purple_cow | heh |
| 21:05.30 | purple_cow | bad darth_mall! |
| 21:05.30 | lurgy | hmm |
| 21:05.33 | scanline | so wasabi starts up automatically now, and it has a little bit of VFD progress-stuffs |
| 21:05.33 | scanline | I'd still like to find a way to have it power on automatically thoguh |
| 21:06.05 | scanline | hmmmm |
| 21:06.49 | *** join/#tacobeam purple_cow (~jupiter@navi.cs.colorado.edu) |
| 21:06.52 | scanline | what did darth_mall do? |
| 21:07.46 | purple_cow | closing the door? |
| 21:07.50 | scanline | oh |
| 21:07.55 | scanline | heh |
| 21:08.08 | scanline | you think that made it reset? |
| 21:08.46 | purple_cow | no |
| 21:08.49 | purple_cow | just in general |
| 21:08.52 | scanline | ah |
| 21:09.29 | scanline | it doesn't get all that much hotter with the door closed |
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| 22:03.55 | CIA-10 | voiceconduits: 03jcolp * 10vc_billing/virtual_channels.c: Use a regex that works to fix callerid with the + in front... idiots |
| 22:06.44 | CIA-10 | voiceconduits: 03jcolp * 10vc_billing/virtual_channels.c: Use caller id number as set in config to replace invalid caller ids, don't use a hardcoded value |
| 22:08.01 | CIA-10 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6329 10evo/calendar/gui/dialogs/ (url-editor-dialog.c url-editor-dialog.h): make it compile |
| 22:21.43 | lurgy | heh |
| 22:21.45 | lurgy | prolly not |
| 22:21.53 | lurgy | since it's not really a prereq for anything |
| 22:21.54 | purple_cow | aww |
| 22:22.56 | lurgy | even though i imagine it would be more fun than ecen3410 |
| 22:47.06 | purple_cow | hurray preprocessor abuse |
| 22:47.12 | purple_cow | #define GW(name) ((dialog->name) = glade_xml_get_widget (dialog->gui, #name)) |
| 22:49.26 | lurgy | heh |
| 22:52.24 | CIA-10 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6330 10evo/calendar/gui/dialogs/ (url-editor-dialog.c url-editor-dialog.h): yay creepy preprocessor macros that make big things look clean |
| 22:58.58 | purple_cow | making coffee is starting to sound like a smashing idea |
| 23:34.36 | CIA-10 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6331 10evo/calendar/gui/dialogs/ (url-editor-dialog.c url-editor-dialog.h): add a bunch of signal hookups and stubs |
| 23:39.09 | lurgy | yikes |
| 23:39.18 | lurgy | 2.6.11-rc1 has scary stuff in it |
| 23:39.26 | lurgy | ATA over Ethernet support (ATA_OVER_ETH) [M/n/y/?] (NEW) |
| 23:40.18 | ChipX86 | wow |
| 23:40.30 | file[laptop] | that's disturbing |
| 23:41.09 | ChipX86 | we need USB over floppy disk |
| 23:41.44 | purple_cow | why can't they just be content with iscsi? |
| 23:42.33 | purple_cow | hrm |
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| 23:44.02 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 23:44.21 | purple_cow | "so, there's this guy, right?" |
| 23:45.06 | lurgy | hehe, always a good way to start :) |
