| 00:14.09 | ChipX86 | o/~ We're gonna drink and fight and drink and fight and drink and fight some more. When the drinkin's done, grab anyone and go and fight some more! o/~ |
| 00:14.54 | file[laptop] | ChipX86: very bad influence on you, yes |
| 00:17.03 | ChipX86 | o/~ So grab your friends and neighbors, punch them in the eye! And raise another glass and sing the Dublin Lullaby. o/~ |
| 00:18.00 | ChipX86 | file[laptop]: have you not heard this song? |
| 00:18.24 | file[laptop] | yes, but it's a bad influence on you |
| 00:18.27 | ChipX86 | :D |
| 00:19.03 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6285 10evo/weather/Locations.xml.in: organize mexico into states |
| 00:19.40 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: the mexican to non-mexican ratio in here is very low |
| 00:21.04 | purple_cow | ChipX86: no, that's not it |
| 00:21.19 | purple_cow | this particular set of sources can't go into evolution proper for legal reasons |
| 00:22.26 | ChipX86 | hrm, really? |
| 00:22.45 | purple_cow | yeah |
| 00:23.00 | purple_cow | we're searching for a different source for international weather data |
| 00:24.31 | ChipX86 | lewing's a bit upset that CIA missed all the commits while it was down |
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| 00:40.14 | darth_mall | hrm |
| 00:44.08 | ChipX86 | I'm stuck. |
| 00:44.13 | ChipX86 | guess I'll just go home soon |
| 00:44.27 | ChipX86 | none of the people who can help me out are here today |
| 00:44.47 | file[laptop] | it's a massive conspiracy to undermine your work |
| 00:46.32 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 00:46.41 | purple_cow | hurray for "emerge metadata" after upgrading portage :) |
| 00:51.00 | pagefault_ | BenQ 200-Pack 4X 4.7GB DVD+R |
| 00:51.00 | pagefault_ | Sale: $59.99 |
| 00:51.00 | pagefault_ | Save $170.00 |
| 00:51.05 | pagefault_ | not bad |
| 00:51.18 | purple_cow | quite good |
| 00:51.53 | pagefault_ | only 4x |
| 00:51.55 | pagefault_ | but oh well |
| 00:53.09 | ChipX86 | nice |
| 00:54.54 | ChipX86 | sounds familiar |
| 00:55.11 | purple_cow | look at p.g.o |
| 00:56.56 | ChipX86 | ah, neat |
| 00:57.01 | ChipX86 | I should head home |
| 00:57.18 | ChipX86 | I have nothing I can do until people who are knowledgeable actually go into work |
| 00:57.29 | ChipX86 | I'm the most senior person on the Linux UI team that's here today :P |
| 01:00.07 | ChipX86 | http://news.com.com/LeapFrog+hopes+pentop+computer+will+fly/2100-1041_3-5533240.html?tag=nl |
| 01:00.11 | ChipX86 | that is so awesome |
| 01:00.15 | darth_mall | purple_cow: you're not singing enough |
| 01:00.22 | ChipX86 | "For instance, the company said, someone can draw a calculator, touch the handwritten digits and functions to perform an operation, and then hear the answers announced." |
| 01:00.42 | ChipX86 | bbl |
| 01:07.58 | purple_cow | kergoth: can you look for cornelius on ubernet? |
| 01:10.07 | purple_cow | hurray for discovering new music in a -history- class of all places |
| 01:10.14 | pagefault_ | doom1 e1m1 is now my ringtone |
| 01:10.55 | file[laptop] | pagefault_: cwazy |
| 01:11.00 | pagefault_ | yes |
| 01:11.17 | pagefault_ | file the WAP gateway doesn't work |
| 01:11.24 | pagefault_ | telus seems to block connections to any ip's except their own |
| 01:11.32 | file[laptop] | very very evil |
| 01:12.45 | pagefault_ | hmm |
| 01:12.49 | pagefault_ | doom2 map01 is cool too |
| 01:12.58 | pagefault_ | but i'm thinking doom music is a little too much for a ringtone |
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| 01:37.39 | merlin_school | ChipX86: you there? |
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| 01:48.07 | *** join/#tacobeam Laser_Dolphin (~Laser_Dol@itll-154.colorado.edu) |
| 01:52.15 | Laser_Dolphin | Is anyone even in Tacobeam? |
| 01:53.28 | Laser_Dolphin | Guess not |
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| 02:22.15 | purple_cow | lurgy: =/ |
| 02:22.30 | lurgy | purple_cow: hmm? |
| 02:22.56 | purple_cow | the whole getting-home-at-7:30-thing bothers me |
| 02:23.17 | lurgy | ah yeah |
| 02:23.19 | lurgy | that |
| 02:32.39 | purple_cow | lurgy: silver mine once darth_mall gets back? |
| 02:35.35 | lurgy | nah, thanks |
| 02:46.12 | pagefault_ | blah |
| 02:46.19 | pagefault_ | so blockbuster bought hollywood |
| 02:47.19 | lurgy | uh oh |
| 02:47.51 | lurgy | can't have one new-release-oriented mass-production-based store chain buying out another |
| 02:49.03 | pagefault_ | well that just means I have to not rent videos from a store anymore |
| 02:50.52 | lurgy | =( |
| 02:52.08 | pagefault_ | i've been meaning try one of those netflix type things |
| 02:54.27 | file[laptop] | I appear to have a beard |
| 02:54.38 | pagefault_ | time to shave |
| 02:55.04 | file[laptop] | eh, Saturday... or Sunday... |
| 02:57.01 | pagefault_ | it's funny CBC is filming everything in 16:9 |
| 02:57.05 | pagefault_ | but yet they have no HDTV broadcast |
| 02:57.28 | purple_cow | everyone's doing 16:9 |
| 02:57.29 | purple_cow | it's the new fad |
| 02:57.31 | file[laptop] | it's their master plan |
| 02:57.53 | laodamas | and very usable when the world goes 1080p |
| 02:57.54 | pagefault_ | I don't see the point of using 16:9 unless you plan to take advantage of it |
| 02:59.53 | ChipX86 | fuck |
| 02:59.53 | pagefault_ | subway has the worst commercials |
| 02:59.58 | ChipX86 | my phone is missing.. on the bus or something |
| 03:00.03 | pagefault_ | that sucks |
| 03:00.12 | pagefault_ | did you try phoning it? |
| 03:00.16 | ChipX86 | almost no battery left too |
| 03:00.17 | ChipX86 | yeah. |
| 03:01.41 | laodamas | pagefault_: Jared is rather high on my list of people to injure |
| 03:01.58 | pagefault_ | I see they are now copying quiznos |
| 03:02.38 | rioter | why :(? |
| 03:02.51 | pagefault_ | ooh SG-1 is on |
| 03:03.12 | pagefault_ | ooold one though |
| 03:03.37 | laodamas | yay deep impact: http://spaceflightnow.com/delta/d311/status.html |
| 03:04.43 | file[laptop] | pagefault_: did you SMS me yesterday? |
| 03:04.51 | pagefault_ | yeah |
| 03:04.51 | pagefault_ | test |
| 03:04.55 | pagefault_ | to see if it worked |
| 03:04.56 | file[laptop] | I thought so |
| 03:04.58 | pagefault_ | obviously it did |
| 03:05.15 | pagefault_ | just wanted to see if I remember your phone # |
| 03:05.30 | ChipX86 | this is really pissing me off |
| 03:05.34 | ChipX86 | the call center is closed |
| 03:05.37 | ChipX86 | nobody is answering my phone |
| 03:05.40 | pagefault_ | what |
| 03:05.42 | ChipX86 | nobody is answerng back home |
| 03:05.45 | ChipX86 | I'm supposed to call Jamie |
| 03:05.47 | pagefault_ | I thought those were 24 hours |
| 03:05.52 | ChipX86 | no, because it SUCKS HERE] |
| 03:05.52 | ChipX86 | \ |
| 03:05.56 | ChipX86 | fucking VTA |
| 03:06.21 | file[laptop] | I can't seem to send text messages |
| 03:06.29 | pagefault_ | how strange |
| 03:06.37 | file[laptop] | US, Canadian, E-mail, any |
| 03:06.45 | pagefault_ | i'd call telus and find out why |
| 03:06.54 | file[laptop] | are they gonna yell at me?!? |
| 03:06.54 | pagefault_ | you should be able to |
| 03:07.27 | pagefault_ | dunno |
| 03:07.33 | file[laptop] | yup right here... |
| 03:07.35 | file[laptop] | Text Messaging Services |
| 03:07.37 | ChipX86 | I can't think of when it fell out |
| 03:08.09 | pagefault | if the battery is still working they can tell you where it is |
| 03:08.14 | pagefault | well general area |
| 03:08.21 | ChipX86 | who can? |
| 03:08.26 | pagefault | phone company |
| 03:08.29 | ChipX86 | yeah right |
| 03:08.42 | ChipX86 | like anybody will be awake |
| 03:08.56 | pagefault | phone co should be open all the time |
| 03:09.02 | ChipX86 | I'll try |
| 03:09.10 | file[laptop] | failed... balh |
| 03:09.12 | pagefault | at least suspend your account or smth |
| 03:09.48 | pagefault | very strange |
| 03:11.13 | pagefault | are you in 1X mode? |
| 03:11.16 | file[laptop] | yupper |
| 03:11.20 | pagefault | should work then |
| 03:11.21 | pagefault | hrm |
| 03:11.29 | file[laptop] | can receive fine |
| 03:11.40 | file[laptop] | SMS me now... see if it goes through, and I'll try to reply |
| 03:11.57 | pagefault | ok |
| 03:12.25 | pagefault | hrm |
| 03:12.27 | pagefault | if I can find my phone |
| 03:12.45 | file[laptop] | oh no, the phones are running away |
| 03:12.46 | ChipX86 | fuckers |
| 03:12.50 | ChipX86 | they said there's nothing they can do to help me |
| 03:12.56 | ChipX86 | and they can't tell me where it would be |
| 03:13.11 | pagefault | thats BS |
| 03:13.18 | pagefault | in emergency situations they can |
| 03:13.35 | file[laptop] | they can give you a rough idea based on the last cell site the cellphone registered to |
| 03:14.57 | pagefault | sent |
| 03:15.05 | file[laptop] | pagefault: Prod |
| 03:15.30 | file[laptop] | Sending Message... |
| 03:16.05 | file[laptop] | Send To: <your number> Message failed. Would you like to retry? |
| 03:16.23 | ChipX86 | the bus driver picked it up |
| 03:16.31 | ChipX86 | he's going to call me back in a sec, and then we're going to meet up |
| 03:16.36 | ChipX86 | I'm going to give him $10 or something for his trouble |
| 03:16.37 | file[laptop] | Message is not delivered: General problems. |
| 03:16.59 | ChipX86 | he was trying to call me, but I was on the phone with sprint :P |
| 03:17.24 | file[laptop] | ChipX86: you're not the only one with phone problems |
| 03:17.30 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 03:17.36 | ChipX86 | phone companies suck |
| 03:17.52 | pagefault | thats cool he found it |
| 03:18.03 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 03:18.17 | pagefault | although phones are pretty pointless to steal |
| 03:18.23 | pagefault | since you can't use them |
| 03:18.24 | ChipX86 | this one especially |
| 03:18.26 | ChipX86 | the battery is almost dead! |
| 03:18.35 | ChipX86 | like, probably minutes away |
| 03:18.41 | ChipX86 | which is just no good |
| 03:19.00 | ChipX86 | I'm glad I dind't have sprint deactivate it |
| 03:19.07 | file[laptop] | oh god this is hilarious |
| 03:19.17 | file[laptop] | I call customer care on my cellphone and I get "All circuits are busy now." |
| 03:19.41 | pagefault | good thing you aren't billed for airtime |
| 03:20.07 | pagefault | although they don't like you calling from a cell they want you to use a landline |
| 03:20.36 | file[laptop] | bah |
| 03:20.53 | pagefault | I guess so they can reprogram your phone or something if they need to |
| 03:21.10 | file[laptop] | pagefault: is there some menu system or something? |
| 03:21.19 | pagefault | for client care? |
| 03:21.22 | file[laptop] | yeah |
| 03:21.26 | pagefault | no idea |
| 03:21.36 | file[laptop] | never called? |
| 03:21.49 | pagefault | I only called them once when my phone wouldn't auto activate |
| 03:22.29 | file[laptop] | ha, I can call their toll-free through my cell |
| 03:22.29 | pagefault | bell finally redid their prepaid menu |
| 03:22.43 | pagefault | before you had to listen to like 5 minutes of ads before you could enter your card # |
| 03:22.46 | file[laptop] | haha |
| 03:23.10 | pagefault | I just do it online now though |
| 03:23.11 | pagefault | faster |
| 03:26.44 | file[laptop] | god their system is horrible |
| 03:26.58 | file[laptop] | you HAVE to enter 10 digit for Canada and 11 for US |
| 03:28.36 | ChipX86 | why hasn't he called yet |
| 03:28.57 | file[laptop] | ChipX86: you're worse then me |
| 03:29.02 | file[laptop] | and that's not a good thing |
| 03:29.05 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 03:29.14 | ChipX86 | this kind of thing makes me highly uncomfortable |
| 03:29.41 | pagefault | file: still on hold? |
| 03:29.54 | file[laptop] | pagefault: nah I found the problem... |
| 03:29.59 | file[laptop] | pagefault: say, do you have unlimited evenings? |
| 03:30.07 | pagefault | no |
| 03:30.11 | file[laptop] | bad pagefault bad |
| 03:30.12 | pagefault | thats extra |
| 03:30.13 | laodamas | Your business is very importent to us. Please enter any 11-digit prime number to continue |
| 03:30.31 | file[laptop] | laodamas: nooooooooooo |
| 03:30.37 | laodamas | s/importent/important |
| 03:31.05 | pagefault | I didn't think telus was in the US |
| 03:31.34 | file[laptop] | this is cool |
| 03:32.14 | file[laptop] | the callerid is weird though |
| 03:32.16 | ChipX86 | yay |
| 03:32.20 | file[laptop] | I'm curious to call it and see where it goes |
| 03:32.20 | ChipX86 | he's coming to the albertsons |
| 03:32.29 | ChipX86 | "If I don't bring it, you probably won't have it for a week or so." |
| 03:32.34 | ChipX86 | stupid VTA system |
| 03:32.53 | file[laptop] | ooh money |
| 03:34.40 | pagefault | at least it's not called SCAT |
| 03:34.54 | pagefault | my friend in florida's buses are called that |
| 03:35.01 | pagefault | and their slogan is "Ride SCAT" |
| 03:35.08 | pagefault | space coast area transport |
| 03:36.29 | file[laptop] | pagefault: now I have your phone number, and can do fun stuff! |
| 03:37.31 | pagefault | ooh |
| 03:39.40 | purple_cow | oh good god |
| 03:40.00 | purple_cow | the calendar preferences glade file has GtkAlignments all over the place |
| 03:40.36 | file[laptop] | I feel so evil |
| 03:40.47 | file[laptop] | I'm playing MP3s to my cellphone through my PBX |
| 03:41.07 | pagefault | haha |
| 03:41.15 | file[laptop] | on speakerphone at that |
| 03:41.23 | pagefault | ah |
| 03:41.25 | pagefault | there is prod! |
| 03:41.32 | file[laptop] | well it took long enough |
| 03:41.43 | pagefault | I just noticed it now :) |
| 03:41.47 | file[laptop] | haha |
| 03:42.08 | pagefault | You have a new message from file! |
| 03:42.16 | file[laptop] | woot |
| 03:42.53 | pagefault | I should assign a custom ringer for you |
| 03:42.54 | pagefault | but what |
| 03:43.09 | file[laptop] | uh oh |
| 03:44.10 | lurgy | all for jen's amusement of course |
| 03:44.32 | pagefault | nice |
| 03:44.34 | pagefault | your mp3s |
| 03:44.57 | file[laptop] | no more MP3s for you! |
| 03:45.01 | pagefault | the quality is pretty bad :) |
| 03:45.09 | purple_cow | lurgy: i'm sure she'd be thrilled |
| 03:45.25 | file[laptop] | Bell's quality is rather bad :p |
| 03:45.54 | pagefault | hehe |
| 03:46.26 | lurgy | purple_cow: darn straight |
| 03:46.41 | file[laptop] | hrm voice recognition strangely works |
| 03:47.02 | pagefault | bad peter pan |
| 03:47.08 | pagefault | cheating on his wife with a fairy |
| 03:47.22 | lurgy | tisk tisk |
| 03:47.38 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6286 10evo/mail-notification/: no more need for this |
| 03:47.53 | pagefault | need to recharge my phone |
| 03:48.28 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6287 10evo/calendar/ (. gui/ gui/dialogs/): yay new directories |
| 03:49.09 | pagefault | I wonder how family channel operates with no commercials |
| 03:50.51 | file[laptop] | it manages to |
| 03:50.57 | pagefault | astral media must have lots of money |
| 03:51.53 | pagefault | unwrapped is a cool show |
| 03:51.58 | pagefault | see how food is made! |
| 03:52.20 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6288 10evo/calendar/gui/ (7 files in 2 dirs): add all the stuff i've modified |
| 03:52.56 | file[laptop] | I have a little homework I should do |
| 03:53.24 | file[laptop] | pagefault: I added you to my voice dial, eek! |
| 03:53.29 | pagefault | ooh |
| 03:53.34 | pagefault | I need to train my phone |
| 03:54.00 | pagefault | the voice dial is sort of slow |
| 03:54.08 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6289 10evo/calendar/gui/ (. dialogs/): hush! |
| 03:54.28 | pagefault | mmm swiss chalet commercial |
| 03:54.35 | file[laptop] | I did a presentation on Swiss Chalet |
| 03:54.43 | file[laptop] | they said I was very well informed and knew my material |
| 03:54.57 | lurgy | imagine my surprise |
| 03:54.59 | pagefault | cool where did you do the presentation? |
| 03:55.20 | file[laptop] | economics class, in the conference room... with the smart board, on a dell |
| 03:55.27 | pagefault | nifty |
| 03:55.35 | file[laptop] | only a 15' LCD though |
| 03:55.39 | pagefault | oh well |
| 03:56.04 | pagefault | I am tempted to go into one of their stores and just get the free sample of their fries |
| 03:56.05 | pagefault | and leave |
| 03:56.09 | pagefault | they said it was free |
| 03:56.21 | file[laptop] | they were supposed to give me one last time, but didn't ;( |
| 03:56.36 | pagefault | :( |
| 03:56.47 | pagefault | I like their fries |
| 03:56.52 | file[laptop] | I want Swiss Chalet now |
| 03:57.12 | pagefault | online ordering is closed now I think |
| 03:57.22 | file[laptop] | yeah |
| 03:57.30 | purple_cow | you're proud that you're very well informed about a -food chain- ? |
| 03:58.23 | file[laptop] | if it allows me to pass economics, yes |
| 03:58.31 | purple_cow | oh, bloody hell |
| 03:58.44 | purple_cow | they swapped the button order in the "new game/quit" dialog in aisleriot |
| 03:58.45 | lurgy | is there any other kind? |
| 03:58.49 | lurgy | heh |
| 03:58.50 | lurgy | cute |
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| 03:59.10 | file[laptop] | pagefault: I tried to get free food out of them but they wouldn't return my phone calls |
| 03:59.42 | pagefault | aww |
| 03:59.57 | pagefault | usually places give out free samples for research |
| 04:00.23 | pagefault | considering you are providing free advertising for them |
| 04:00.28 | pagefault | they could have given you something |
| 04:00.54 | lurgy | file[laptop]: does your newfound expertise in Swiss Chalet make you qualified to explain to me why a fast food chain that (apparently) serves predominantly cheese-based dishes would name itself Swiss Chalet, after a country known only for one (cheese-based) dish? |
| 04:00.57 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6290 10evo/calendar/gui/dialogs/ (cal-prefs-dialog.c cal-prefs-dialog.h): add credit where credit is due |
| 04:01.17 | lurgy | a country which is not at all connected with poultry, as far as i know |
| 04:01.22 | pagefault | I don't know of anything at swiss chalet with cheese on it |
| 04:01.36 | lurgy | see? it makes even less sense |
| 04:01.40 | lurgy | why is it Swiss Chalet? |
| 04:01.43 | lurgy | it makes no sense at all |
| 04:01.54 | pagefault | they used to have goofy pictures from switzerland in their stores |
| 04:01.54 | lurgy | you'd think they'd pick a name that was remotely related to the food they sell |
| 04:02.03 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6291 10evo/calendar/ (. gui/ gui/dialogs/): quiet! |
| 04:02.17 | lurgy | they might as well call it the Tandoori Grill |
| 04:03.14 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 04:03.35 | pagefault | they don't say on their site why they are called swiss chalet :/ |
| 04:03.42 | pagefault | oh wait |
| 04:03.48 | pagefault | The secret of Swiss Chalet's unique, crispy rotisserie chicken, was inspired by a secret Swiss recipe, discovered by founder Maurice Mauran from Montreal. Today, the rotisserie - a large open-flamed brick oven that slowly roasts the chicken in its own juices, so it's crispy on the outside and tender and juicy on the inside - is still the heart of every Swiss Chalet. |
| 04:03.57 | file[laptop] | indeed |
| 04:04.03 | lurgy | ah, yes |
| 04:04.08 | lurgy | Montreal, the famous Swiss city.. |
| 04:04.19 | lurgy | makes perfect sense :P |
| 04:04.37 | pagefault | well it wouldn't make sense changing their name now |
| 04:04.44 | lurgy | and really, where would the swiss be without their barbequeing |
| 04:04.46 | file[laptop] | they did change their looks in 1999 though |
| 04:04.55 | file[laptop] | lurgy: they'd be... like you1 |
| 04:04.58 | lurgy | KFC changed their name, didn't they? :P |
| 04:05.16 | ChipX86 | yay for having my phone |
| 04:05.20 | file[laptop] | woot phone |
| 04:05.21 | ChipX86 | the guy would not accept any money for it |
| 04:05.26 | pagefault | we have a place called new york fries here too |
| 04:05.27 | file[laptop] | awwwwwwww |
| 04:05.33 | pagefault | yet I don't think new york is famous for fries |
| 04:05.36 | file[laptop] | pagefault: we have that in the mall here too |
| 04:05.38 | ChipX86 | he said just to promise him to do one good thing for someone else if they need my help |
| 04:05.47 | ChipX86 | I put the money in his hand and he put it back in mine |
| 04:05.57 | pagefault | file[laptop], yeah they are a mall chain, good fries |
| 04:06.09 | pagefault | whenever I eat in the mall I get my burger from A&W and my fries from NYF |
| 04:06.39 | pagefault | they only sell hotdogs and fries at new york fries |
| 04:07.23 | ChipX86 | me too. |
| 04:07.27 | pagefault | yeah me too |
| 04:07.40 | ChipX86 | I'm in no mood to make something.. I just had pizza and chinese though |
| 04:07.57 | pagefault | it's sort of too late to get anything or make something now here |
| 04:09.20 | pagefault | file, it's very strange tim hortons doesn't take debit |
| 04:09.32 | lurgy | pagefault: new york may not be famous for fries, but at least new york *has* fries |
| 04:09.46 | pagefault | lurgy, but they have chicken in switzerland |
| 04:09.56 | lurgy | most of what the swiss eat is german and italian food |
| 04:10.03 | lurgy | pagefault: maybe, but they don't eat it all that much |
| 04:10.13 | lurgy | they're a fish-and-beef sort of culture |
| 04:10.20 | lurgy | ;) |
| 04:10.30 | pagefault | lurgy, oh well I didn't pick the name :) |
| 04:10.44 | lurgy | hehe |
| 04:10.51 | lurgy | pagefault: yes! it's all YOUR fault! ;P |
| 04:11.24 | pagefault | lurgy, isn't everything canada's fault? |
| 04:11.34 | lurgy | pagefault: nah, just your fault ;) |
| 04:11.38 | lurgy | occasionally file's too |
| 04:11.46 | lurgy | and apparently mine, if darth_mall is to be believed |
| 04:12.01 | pagefault | oh well as long as it's not always my fault thats ok |
| 04:12.25 | lurgy | ;P |
| 04:12.59 | pagefault | if you wink and stick your tongue out in front of the mirror it looks pretty funny |
| 04:14.42 | purple_cow | good lord |
| 04:14.54 | purple_cow | i want some of whatever the guy who designed this was smoking |
| 04:15.18 | lurgy | hehe |
| 04:16.19 | purple_cow | seriously |
| 04:16.27 | purple_cow | some of these widgets are inside of alignments -for no reason- |
| 04:16.35 | lurgy | hehehe |
| 04:19.22 | pagefault | someone needs to make yogurt containers bigger |
| 04:21.30 | lurgy | heh |
| 04:21.32 | lurgy | hmm |
| 04:21.45 | lurgy | purple_cow: how'd you get the cute little progress bar in your firefox tabs? |
| 04:22.07 | purple_cow | i think that's part of the tabbrowser extension |
| 04:22.35 | lurgy | spiffy |
| 04:29.02 | pagefault | I wish adblock could block flash images |
| 04:29.16 | purple_cow | ...it can |
| 04:29.26 | pagefault | how? |
| 04:30.12 | pagefault | nm |
| 04:34.42 | purple_cow | urgh |
| 04:34.49 | purple_cow | there's so much extraneous widgetry in here |
| 04:40.17 | lurgy | purple_cow: is scanline over there? |
| 04:42.39 | purple_cow | he's sleeping |
| 04:42.48 | lurgy | bad scanline |
| 04:43.21 | purple_cow | darth_mall: silver mine? |
| 04:48.36 | purple_cow | good god |
| 04:48.46 | purple_cow | the widget layout in this dialog makes me feel dirty |
| 04:48.59 | lurgy | hehe |
| 04:49.08 | ChipX86 | yay talked to jamie |
| 04:49.11 | lurgy | yay |
| 04:49.44 | purple_cow | y'all know how the HIG says to do those sections in a dialog, right? |
| 04:49.53 | purple_cow | with the bold label and the indenting and all? |
| 04:50.07 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 04:50.15 | purple_cow | this page has -frames- with no shadow |
| 04:50.21 | purple_cow | within which there are gtkalignments |
| 04:50.34 | ChipX86 | where? |
| 04:50.44 | purple_cow | each of which has only one child, a box |
| 04:50.54 | purple_cow | ChipX86: the free/busy page in evo calendar prefs |
| 04:51.35 | pagefault | lame |
| 04:51.40 | ChipX86 | :/ |
| 04:51.50 | pagefault | G4TechTV is becoming G4 again |
| 04:51.51 | ChipX86 | bah, maybe just pizza again afterall |
| 04:51.53 | ChipX86 | pagefault: yeah. |
| 04:51.57 | pagefault | what the hell was the point of buying TechTV |
| 04:52.00 | pagefault | just destroying it? |
| 04:52.02 | ChipX86 | pagefault: yes |
| 04:52.09 | pagefault | fuck you comcast |
| 04:52.11 | pagefault | is all I have to say |
| 04:52.58 | pagefault | I think techtv canada is going to ditch G4 |
| 04:53.06 | pagefault | they don't want to run an gaming channel |
| 04:53.40 | pagefault | they never really changed over to G4TechTV to begin with |
| 04:53.54 | pagefault | they still use the url techtvcanada.ca on all their logos and stuff |
| 05:01.18 | pagefault | at least leo is still on |
| 05:01.33 | purple_cow | woohoo |
| 05:01.34 | pagefault | he's been on for almost 4 months now |
| 05:01.40 | pagefault | and he still has no concept of the canadian dollar |
| 05:02.32 | lurgy | "united reticulated llamas?" |
| 05:02.44 | purple_cow | no |
| 05:03.00 | purple_cow | so the textbook for my theory of computation class is online |
| 05:03.19 | purple_cow | on monday, andrzej handed out little slips of paper and said "here's the url" |
| 05:03.32 | purple_cow | not "here's the you are ell" |
| 05:03.35 | lurgy | yay |
| 05:03.36 | purple_cow | pronounced "earl" |
| 05:03.49 | laodamas | the url of hambourg |
| 05:03.53 | lurgy | hehe |
| 05:04.55 | scanline | hmm |
| 05:04.58 | *** join/#tacobeam pagefault_ (pagefault@67.71.46.5) |
| 05:05.00 | scanline | that's more than I was intending to nap |
| 05:05.05 | purple_cow | scanline: mornin' |
| 05:05.11 | lurgy | heh |
| 05:05.16 | purple_cow | scanline: i was planning to order silvermine when darth_mall got back |
| 05:05.16 | ChipX86 | morning scanline! |
| 05:05.17 | purple_cow | interested? |
| 05:05.21 | scanline | ooh |
| 05:05.22 | scanline | yes |
| 05:05.27 | lurgy | scanline: do you have a copy of Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance? |
| 05:05.32 | scanline | lurgy: no :( |
| 05:05.34 | lurgy | aw |
| 05:06.34 | scanline | laodamas: I'm just still screwy from this road trip |
| 05:07.00 | scanline | I had absolutely nothing resembling a normal sleep schedule, and while we were there it was basically a 20 hour work day |
| 05:07.18 | laodamas | sounds fun :/ |
| 05:07.38 | scanline | yeah |
| 05:09.09 | laodamas | excpet for the dealing with rellations that seem to know me, but I swear I have never met them in my life |
| 05:09.35 | scanline | hehe |
| 05:10.08 | laodamas | s/excpet/except |
| 05:10.23 | file[laptop] | scanline: was it stuff that would never occur under normal situations? |
| 05:10.31 | scanline | and through the magic of zip-tie-based pressure molding we got the wiring harness to look less ugly |
| 05:10.37 | laodamas | yay dino, hopefully it will launch better then 3CS |
| 05:10.43 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6292 10evo/calendar/gui/dialogs/cal-prefs-dialog.glade: decrackify |
| 05:10.59 | purple_cow | man |
| 05:11.00 | scanline | laodamas: unfortunately because we got 4th in the competition dino currently has no money, so they're reallocating everybody to get CX finished |
| 05:11.07 | purple_cow | i don't think i've ever seen such a messy glade file |
| 05:11.13 | scanline | laodamas: kinda makes sense to focus on one project at a time, but it's a little disappointing |
| 05:11.23 | laodamas | scanline: who beat you? |
| 05:11.39 | scanline | laodamas: the one thing that's got cory and I excited about it though is that we're putting Dino's flight computer and flight software on CX, so we can keep developing it |
| 05:11.53 | scanline | I forget who was 2nd and 3rd, but Texas got 1st |
| 05:12.09 | scanline | even though they were too tall and too heavy to launch :P |
| 05:12.36 | laodamas | CX, the everlasting project |
| 05:12.59 | scanline | from what others were saying, our satellite was probably technically superior but we failed to sugar coat our progress enough |
| 05:13.13 | scanline | well, CX has a limited lifetime |
| 05:13.24 | scanline | I think they gave it a semester or something to finish before they pull the plug and move on |
| 05:13.33 | scanline | the crazy thing is that it's close enough to read that it just might work |
| 05:13.37 | pagefault_ | hah poor leo |
| 05:13.37 | scanline | s/read/ready/ |
| 05:13.45 | pagefault_ | he's helping someone who has gay porn spyware on his computer |
| 05:14.40 | laodamas | scanline: that sounds very much the system I work on. Its cool but other internal groups "borrow" it and claim they invented it |
| 05:15.03 | scanline | well, I wish there was more "borrowing" at spacegrant |
| 05:15.24 | scanline | I'd much rather be working on reusable components than something you design for one project then throw away |
| 05:15.30 | laodamas | we accomplish 10x as much as projects with 100x the bugdet |
| 05:15.42 | scanline | most of our recent designs are probably a lot more modular than the staff realize though |
| 05:15.59 | scanline | hence most of Dino's C&DH system being easily portable to CX |
| 05:16.08 | lurgy | yay easily |
| 05:16.16 | scanline | we could also use Dino's TNC if it wasn't for the whole critical decoder mess |
| 05:16.38 | scanline | Dino's TNC does nearly everything in software on the flight computer, so you couldn't exactly go into critical mode through it |
| 05:17.06 | laodamas | that's the only way to design. Stupid aerospace and DoD design: Write once, run nowhere. |
| 05:17.15 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 05:17.23 | scanline | we're hoping there's at least some way to ditch AX.25 transparent mode and send raw AX.25 frames through KISS so we can do TCP/IP over AX.25 rather than PPP over AX.25 |
| 05:17.24 | *** join/#tacobeam Laser_Dolphin (~Laser_Dol@navi.cs.colorado.edu) |
| 05:17.28 | Laser_Dolphin | Hello |
| 05:17.28 | scanline | hehe |
| 05:17.43 | pagefault_ | cool that steve gibson guy is on call for help |
| 05:17.48 | Laser_Dolphin | Does anyone have any nifty scripts that will replace spaces with underscores in file names? |
| 05:18.30 | purple_cow | for file in *; do mv $file `echo $file | tr ' ' _`; done |
| 05:19.04 | scanline | aww, purple_cow beat me to it |
| 05:19.04 | purple_cow | mwahaha |
| 05:19.06 | purple_cow | mmm |
| 05:19.07 | Laser_Dolphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:19.17 | purple_cow | yay for ``life on mars'' having a fantastic piano part |
| 05:19.27 | Laser_Dolphin | Jen also has tea for your achy throat |
| 05:20.15 | scanline | hmmmmm |
| 05:20.29 | scanline | purple_cow: yaknow, since darth_mall doesn't seem to really want his therm, we could use that one in the fridge :) |
| 05:20.37 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 05:20.41 | rioter | ... |
| 05:20.58 | scanline | could use 30 gauge wire to have minimal impact on the seal |
| 05:21.12 | purple_cow | rioter: if you could have a graph that showed when people opened the fridge, wouldn't you want it? |
| 05:21.26 | rioter | no not really... |
| 05:21.31 | scanline | aww... I just got a bunch of spams that got a score of 4.9 out of a required 5.0 on spamassassin |
| 05:21.43 | rioter | im not that interested in my fridge |
| 05:21.47 | *** join/#tacobeam KeyserLaptop (~Keyser@user-0cej5mv.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 05:22.16 | laodamas | how about a therm in the microwave? |
| 05:22.22 | scanline | hehe |
| 05:22.48 | purple_cow | grr, darth_mall needs to get home |
| 05:23.56 | scanline | hrmph |
| 05:24.01 | scanline | they haven't given us timesheet releases yet |
| 05:24.08 | CIA-9 | voiceconduits: 03jcolp * 10vc_billing/virtual_channels.c: Make E164 callerids not contain + so as to not crash client gateways... |
| 05:24.12 | scanline | it's a little unfair that we got back from reno after the timesheet deadline |
| 05:24.32 | scanline | laodamas: yay. all the more reason to cook some pizza then |
| 05:24.49 | laodamas | scanline: just be glad you don't have a 60 page timecard policy to "follow" |
| 05:25.02 | purple_cow | potater pizza? |
| 05:25.29 | scanline | purple_cow: barbeque potaters? :) |
| 05:25.33 | scanline | laodamas: fun |
| 05:25.44 | purple_cow | barbeque doesn't go with that |
| 05:26.31 | scanline | hrm |
| 05:26.37 | scanline | where do you get this 'enrollment key' for the moodle? |
| 05:26.51 | purple_cow | from your professor |
| 05:27.11 | scanline | I mean, did he hand them out in class while I was gone, or was this an email I should have received but didn't? |
| 05:27.17 | purple_cow | in class |
| 05:27.20 | scanline | bah |
| 05:27.30 | purple_cow | what class are you registering it for? |
| 05:27.35 | scanline | OOP |
| 05:27.39 | purple_cow | dddRdd |
| 05:27.50 | scanline | thanks |
| 05:32.11 | Laser_Dolphin | scanline: knock knock |
| 05:32.20 | scanline | squish squish |
| 05:32.36 | Laser_Dolphin | scanline: zak has presents for you, let her in |
| 05:33.32 | file[laptop] | hrm, that code worked without testing |
| 05:33.33 | file[laptop] | freaky |
| 05:33.35 | rioter | dont do it its a trap! |
| 05:34.14 | lurgy | rioter: i'm afraid it's too late, she's already infiltrated their apartment |
| 05:34.16 | lurgy | mwa ha ha |
| 05:34.18 | lurgy | #1 wins |
| 05:39.13 | KeyserLaptop | lemme guess, the present was a large wooden horse, that she convinced you to drag into the aparment |
| 05:39.41 | lurgy | yeah |
| 05:39.43 | CIA-9 | voiceconduits: 03jcolp * 10vc_billing/virtual_channels.c: Further callerid tweaks |
| 05:39.46 | lurgy | had to give it to them in pieces though |
| 05:39.53 | lurgy | wouldn't fit through the door otherwise |
| 05:42.00 | lurgy | hmm.. maybe some bedtime.. |
| 06:02.39 | nullpuppy | ChipX86: how does the all-in-one reader thingy you're getting for your htpc hook up? |
| 06:08.56 | ChipX86 | my freezer is sparking. |
| 06:09.04 | ChipX86 | nullpuppy: it has cables that plug into the various ports |
| 06:09.13 | ChipX86 | brb |
| 06:09.25 | nullpuppy | ah, ok |
| 06:12.42 | scanline | freezers should never spark, nor should they have more than one port |
| 06:12.52 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 06:13.51 | KeyserLaptop | two ports, actually. an input port for electricity, and an output port for ice (crushed and cubed) |
| 06:13.51 | scanline | eww, we do UML in this class |
| 06:14.12 | scanline | KeyserLaptop: I've never seen a freezer with an electrical port, just an electrical cable |
| 06:15.31 | KeyserLaptop | the only thing i hate worse than monitors with a vga cable built in, is this crap-assed dell **LCD** I have at work, that doesn't have a cable attached, but only a VGA connector |
| 06:16.01 | scanline | you should VGA interface it upside the head |
| 06:16.23 | KeyserLaptop | that'll teach it |
| 06:16.28 | rioter | http://uploads.offtopic.com/files/ch930125.gif calvin is responsible for up being a verb! |
| 06:17.25 | KeyserLaptop | or "verbificate", if I'm being especially verbose :D |
| 06:17.52 | scanline | hehe, I forgot that's where "Verbing weirds language" came from |
| 06:17.59 | KeyserLaptop | hehe. in the system requirements at work, they have a section on the use of the dual-concentric knobs labelled as "knobology" |
| 06:18.40 | scanline | hmm, I wonder if those photos are hanging out on the spacegrant network.. I'd like a copy of them on navi |
| 06:19.14 | scanline | no |
| 06:19.17 | scanline | it was just hobbes |
| 06:20.04 | scanline | for very slow values of pounce |
| 06:20.33 | ChipX86 | ok, I found out why my recent margaritas taste unusually strong |
| 06:20.51 | scanline | using metric gallons rather than imperial quarts? |
| 06:20.56 | ChipX86 | that margarita mix I got wasn't a margarita mix. It was a thing of pre-made margarita. I've been blending that with tequila. |
| 06:20.57 | KeyserLaptop | made from 100% tequila? |
| 06:21.03 | KeyserLaptop | hehe |
| 06:21.05 | scanline | haha |
| 06:21.08 | nullpuppy | ChipX86: hehe |
| 06:21.10 | nullpuppy | extra good ;) |
| 06:21.18 | ChipX86 | it was right next to all the mixes. Thought it was a mix :) |
| 06:21.29 | ChipX86 | so, putting sugar in a margarita makes it a bit better |
| 06:21.30 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 06:21.37 | ChipX86 | and this is going to have a lot of alcohol in it.. |
| 06:21.57 | nullpuppy | i got my thinkgeek order today |
| 06:22.01 | ChipX86 | :D |
| 06:22.20 | rioter | please tell me you got an ant farm? |
| 06:22.36 | ChipX86 | what's with you and your ant farms? :) |
| 06:22.47 | nullpuppy | so.. i now have 2 /dev/pillows, 1 /dev/blanket, 4 #include <beer> glasses, couple more work shirts, and the pretty laminated earth poster |
| 06:22.58 | ChipX86 | cool |
| 06:22.59 | rioter | i think they are funky and everyone should own one |
| 06:23.11 | ChipX86 | ants scare me |
| 06:23.13 | file[laptop] | oooh apparently there may be enough in the budget for Digium to pay for my flight to VON too |
| 06:23.14 | scanline | wooooooo |
| 06:23.19 | ChipX86 | lots of bad ant experiences |
| 06:23.33 | rioter | even more reason to put them in blue goo |
| 06:23.44 | ChipX86 | :D |
| 06:24.21 | nullpuppy | i should hack beep so it has a border and can scale to slightly larger sizes |
| 06:24.42 | nullpuppy | or port it and get rid of its winamp/xmms skin support |
| 06:24.51 | nullpuppy | so it can scale properly... |
| 06:25.04 | file[laptop] | goodnight all |
| 06:25.09 | nullpuppy | gnight file |
| 06:25.23 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 06:25.46 | nullpuppy | yeah, they need some unicode binary stuff |
| 06:26.17 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 06:26.56 | nullpuppy | "what encoding is that?" "what?" "unicode or ascii?" "what? its binary..." |
| 06:27.08 | nullpuppy | KeyserLaptop: haha |
| 06:27.16 | KeyserLaptop | hehe "null terminated at all corners with heavy duty double stitching for added strength" |
| 06:27.18 | purple_cow | so hungry... |
| 06:27.54 | scanline | ooh, I think I found it |
| 06:28.10 | scanline | it's the "brochere" |
| 06:28.23 | scanline | ooh, yay nautilus |
| 06:28.35 | scanline | it's updating the thumbnails for these photos as they copy |
| 06:28.41 | lurgy | hmm |
| 06:28.55 | ChipX86 | oh no! |
| 06:28.59 | ChipX86 | thinkgeek.com.. connection refused |
| 06:29.05 | nullpuppy | no! :( |
| 06:29.10 | ChipX86 | oh there we go |
| 06:29.14 | nullpuppy | purple_cow: btw.. what'd you order? |
| 06:29.18 | ChipX86 | USB ashtray.. |
| 06:29.21 | purple_cow | nullpuppy: an istick |
| 06:29.24 | nullpuppy | oh, right |
| 06:29.35 | nullpuppy | my newegg order will be here friday |
| 06:29.42 | ChipX86 | mine will be in chico Friday |
| 06:29.46 | KeyserLaptop | hehe. i hppe the ashtray does something besides light up, but i can't imagine what |
| 06:29.54 | KeyserLaptop | s/pp/op/ |
| 06:29.57 | ChipX86 | KeyserLaptop: it looks like a car |
| 06:30.00 | ChipX86 | http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/electronic/68c6/?cpg=wnrdf |
| 06:30.25 | nullpuppy | haha, neat |
| 06:30.30 | KeyserLaptop | i don't know if it has to be USB to run off a car. I bet it coulda done that with 9600BPS RS232. |
| 06:30.35 | KeyserLaptop | err. |
| 06:30.36 | nullpuppy | but smokers should *NEVER* smoke near their computer... |
| 06:30.45 | KeyserLaptop | s/run off a car/look like a car/ |
| 06:31.24 | ChipX86 | http://www.thinkgeek.com/clearance/714b/ |
| 06:31.24 | KeyserLaptop | hmmm. smokeless ashtray. |
| 06:32.35 | nullpuppy | ChipX86: oh.. that looks kinda neat |
| 06:32.46 | KeyserLaptop | then i realized that I already have usb adapters for each that i got free bundled with other products, that i am not using |
| 06:32.57 | KeyserLaptop | then i realized the mini mac only has 2 usb ports |
| 06:32.58 | nullpuppy | KeyserLaptop: hehe, yeah, i'm going to wait a month or two at least before i pick one up |
| 06:33.00 | rioter | ive come so close to buying one them a few times |
| 06:33.04 | ChipX86 | KeyserLaptop: hub |
| 06:33.11 | KeyserLaptop | ChipX86: yeah |
| 06:33.21 | KeyserLaptop | a usb keyboard with a hub built in |
| 06:33.24 | ChipX86 | the mini mac is neat, but I still can't find a use fo rit |
| 06:33.27 | ChipX86 | for me anyway |
| 06:33.33 | purple_cow | KeyserLaptop: the proper term is "mac mini." if you call it minimac too much, you'll go to hell |
| 06:33.35 | scanline | KeyserSoze: http://navi.cx/images/hardware/spacegrant/dino-tipmass.jpeg |
| 06:33.41 | KeyserLaptop | like the happy hacking lite 2 usb model |
| 06:34.12 | rioter | im just going to throw it in a cuboard as a server |
| 06:34.15 | KeyserLaptop | purple_cow: eek! how much is too much? I haven't been keeping track of how often i said it |
| 06:34.21 | scanline | I think that tipmass board is the coolest looking one I've done for spacegrant |
| 06:35.01 | nullpuppy | main reason i want the mac mini is because its a mac, and its cheap (for a mac), and i want to play with one |
| 06:35.06 | KeyserLaptop | tipmass? |
| 06:35.20 | KeyserLaptop | is it some kind of multiple perpindicular sensors? |
| 06:35.25 | scanline | KeyserLaptop: it rides on the end of our gravity-gradient boom and records data about the deployment |
| 06:35.32 | purple_cow | scanline: food |
| 06:35.35 | scanline | KeyserLaptop: yeah. accelerometers and rate gyros in 3 axes |
| 06:35.54 | KeyserLaptop | oooooh |
| 06:36.11 | scanline | it buffers the data in 0.5MB of onboard memory, then the flight computer streams it over 802.11 |
| 06:36.21 | KeyserLaptop | what sensors did you get? /me can't read the packages |
| 06:36.40 | scanline | they're all analog devices iMEMS stuffs |
| 06:36.56 | KeyserLaptop | surely the flight computer is not the PIC on that board... |
| 06:37.11 | scanline | http://rex.colorado.edu/svn/dino/trunk/hardware/tipmass/schematic.pdf |
| 06:37.37 | scanline | KeyserLaptop: no, we have an xscale flight computer. the tipmass has its own self-contained power supply and microcontroller since it has no electrical connection to the rest of the satellite |
| 06:37.48 | KeyserLaptop | the company i work at has a location in colorado, and the guy from there who designed our ADAHRS was visiting this week |
| 06:38.18 | KeyserLaptop | (ADAHRS -> air data and attitude/heading reference system) |
| 06:38.22 | scanline | ah |
| 06:38.50 | KeyserLaptop | how's the tipmass interface to the flight coputer? |
| 06:39.34 | scanline | 802.11, through these silly serial-to-802.11 boards |
| 06:40.56 | scanline | it's basically a standalone data logger during the deployment, then the radio switches on and the flight computer can start streaming buffered data and new data from that microcontroller |
| 06:41.32 | ChipX86 | can anyone access netflix.com? |
| 06:41.37 | KeyserLaptop | why no electrical connection to the rest of the sat? how long of a boom? |
| 06:41.52 | scanline | KeyserLaptop: I don't remember off the top of my head, but it's something like 6 meters I think |
| 06:42.30 | nullpuppy | ChipX86: doesn't look like it |
| 06:42.37 | ChipX86 | ok, good. Not just me. |
| 06:42.43 | ChipX86 | I was afraid I was blocked :) |
| 06:42.45 | scanline | KeyserLaptop: the boom is basically two stanley tape measures with a spiffy slowdown mechanism. there's nowhere to run wire, and I don't think it would be very safe to anyway |
| 06:42.58 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 06:43.04 | scanline | KeyserSoze: so we use 802.11, and it has its own batteries |
| 06:43.14 | KeyserLaptop | that's cool |
| 06:43.26 | scanline | yep. it was a fun project |
| 06:43.32 | scanline | not as fun as our TNC, but still good |
| 06:43.43 | KeyserLaptop | terminal node controller? |
| 06:43.48 | scanline | yep |
| 06:45.31 | scanline | USB, full-duplex, 9600 baud.. all the protocols (TCP/IP, AX.25, HDLC, LFSR scrambling) are implemented in a kernel module and the hardware is really only responsible for buffering, clock recovery, and analog goop |
| 06:45.38 | scanline | so it's really low power and small |
| 06:47.37 | KeyserLaptop | hmmm. |
| 06:47.54 | KeyserLaptop | kinda surprised to hear it's USB, if it's a terminal node controller |
| 06:48.10 | KeyserLaptop | the ham guys usually like to kick it old school |
| 06:48.19 | scanline | well, I designed it.. so it's going to be USB :P |
| 06:48.37 | scanline | http://navi.cx/images/hardware/spacegrant/dino-tnc.jpeg |
| 06:48.47 | KeyserLaptop | hehe. did you pick the PIC? i didn't think you were a fan of them |
| 06:48.53 | scanline | hah |
| 06:49.06 | scanline | but the TNC runs on an 8051 |
| 06:49.09 | scanline | the TUSB3210 |
| 06:49.19 | KeyserLaptop | is there a PIC with USB? |
| 06:49.21 | scanline | yes |
| 06:49.23 | scanline | there are a few |
| 06:49.34 | scanline | the PIC16C7[46]5 have been around for a while, with low-speed USB |
| 06:49.44 | scanline | and they have some new full-speed PICs that I still need to play with |
| 06:49.48 | KeyserLaptop | at work, we use this bus called ByteFlight |
| 06:50.45 | KeyserLaptop | the uCs we use with it are freescale 9s12, like an updated mot hc12 |
| 06:50.54 | scanline | what kind of bus is it? |
| 06:51.02 | ChipX86 | silly netflix *stab* |
| 06:51.15 | KeyserLaptop | it's a serial bus, originally designed by a consortium headed by BMW |
| 06:51.27 | KeyserLaptop | everyone else who uses it is automotive, I think |
| 06:51.32 | scanline | RS-485 based, or just something nonstandard? |
| 06:51.37 | KeyserLaptop | it's got TDMA (time division multiple access) |
| 06:51.48 | CIA-9 | trinity: 03chipx86 * r1553 10gaea/mediaportal/plugins/mediaflix/src/Queue.cs: Added a small movie queue implementation. |
| 06:51.54 | KeyserLaptop | it's usually fiber, but we stuck some 485 transceivers on instead |
| 06:52.01 | KeyserLaptop | the TDMA works like this: |
| 06:52.14 | KeyserLaptop | 1) there's a bus master, who puts out a sync pulse\ |
| 06:52.20 | KeyserLaptop | 2) everyone counts up |
| 06:52.31 | KeyserLaptop | 3) when their count is reached, they can send data |
| 06:52.36 | scanline | haha |
| 06:52.47 | scanline | it's like what USB does, but worse :P |
| 06:52.48 | KeyserLaptop | 4) there's a very short timeout for each slot, so if no one talks, the time isn't wasted |
| 06:53.27 | KeyserLaptop | it's just a way for a bunch of people to share a wire (and be able to do broadcasts), while being able to gaurentee bandwidth to the high-priority messages |
| 06:53.31 | scanline | yeah |
| 06:53.44 | scanline | none of our projects though have had a reason for multi-master style busses |
| 06:53.51 | scanline | there's always one entity that does all the scheduling |
| 06:53.56 | darth_mall | oof, that was fun |
| 06:54.12 | KeyserLaptop | scanline: everyone has to know ahead of time what slots they are allowed to talk during |
| 06:54.33 | KeyserLaptop | then, the master puts the sync pulse, and they all just count to themselves, until they think they can talk |
| 06:54.44 | scanline | right |
| 06:55.20 | KeyserLaptop | kinda funny they didn't want fiber |
| 06:55.33 | scanline | ooh |
| 06:55.39 | scanline | this is a good picture of our batteries |
| 06:55.41 | scanline | http://navi.cx/images/hardware/spacegrant/dino-batteries.jpeg |
| 06:55.44 | scanline | before they were potted |
| 06:56.17 | KeyserLaptop | we've got one box, an IFD (integrated flight display), with a half dozen ByteFlight cards in it, but then other boxes are also connected |
| 06:56.48 | darth_mall | scanline: they're so pretty ^^ |
| 06:57.25 | scanline | KeyserLaptop: that has to be the most high-tech part of our satellite.. it's this new system Ball developed with us |
| 06:57.47 | scanline | KeyserLaptop: they're thin lithium polymer batteries that actually get embedded into a thermally conductive plate that becomes part of the satellite's structure |
| 06:58.22 | scanline | I don't have any pictures of it handy, but our power system pretty much forms dino's lid |
| 06:58.29 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 06:58.32 | KeyserLaptop | are you trying to heat the sat, or cool the batteries? either one seems weird in space |
| 06:58.52 | scanline | IIRC to cool the batteries |
| 06:59.05 | scanline | but I'm no thermal person |
| 06:59.35 | KeyserLaptop | hmmm. i guess with no atmosphere, it's easy for things that don't produce much heat to get hot over a long period of time |
| 06:59.45 | scanline | yes |
| 07:00.10 | scanline | that whole thing also has a good thermal connection to the PCB right above the batteries that holds the DC-DC converters, power switches, and the microcontroller |
| 07:00.33 | KeyserLaptop | oh, i brought up the 9s12, because i want to make a little device with a 9s12, and a USB interface, to dump data to a laptop |
| 07:00.36 | Laser_Dolphin | Who here likes X-Files? |
| 07:00.50 | KeyserLaptop | the 9s12 is only $17 from digikey |
| 07:01.09 | scanline | KeyserLaptop: I'd suggest trying the PDIUSBD12 from philips |
| 07:01.15 | Laser_Dolphin | Cuz my roommate just bought 7 seasons of it on DVD! |
| 07:01.15 | KeyserLaptop | a ByteFlight diagnostic whatchamacallit, in PCMCIA form factor, is many thousand dollars |
| 07:01.18 | scanline | it's a full-speed USB chip that works with any microcontroller |
| 07:01.43 | KeyserLaptop | hehe |
| 07:01.55 | KeyserLaptop | i did a search, and the first link was already purple |
| 07:02.01 | scanline | hehe |
| 07:02.09 | KeyserLaptop | the page looked familiar, I had bookmarked it 10 minutes ago |
| 07:02.10 | KeyserLaptop | :D |
| 07:02.24 | scanline | do you only need a UART, or do you have to bitbang the byteflight protocol? |
| 07:03.07 | KeyserLaptop | a lot of times they will have the 9s12 do the work of the card, so there is no other interface |
| 07:03.39 | KeyserLaptop | but like for the GPS, we hook a rs232 GPS to a 9s12, and then have it parse trimble binary messages into our own messages, and put it on the bus |
| 07:03.51 | scanline | I was just thinking that if it's possible to get a UART to speak byteflight, you could do this with a reprogrammed usb-serial dongle |
| 07:04.10 | KeyserLaptop | yeah, but that's not as much fun |
| 07:04.13 | scanline | :) |
| 07:04.18 | KeyserLaptop | and, ByteFlight is up to 10Mb/s |
| 07:04.19 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 07:04.21 | scanline | ah |
| 07:04.29 | purple_cow | it's gonna be really strange to have everyone going to the same class tomorrow morning |
| 07:04.34 | scanline | yeah :P |
| 07:04.57 | KeyserLaptop | the main processing power is a IBM 440EP (500mhz PPC), and it talks to the 9s12 on it's board with a dual-port ram |
| 07:05.29 | KeyserLaptop | oh, and the other thing i want to do is make a little board with nothing but a 9s12 on it, and a PS/2 connector |
| 07:05.53 | scanline | why? |
| 07:06.11 | KeyserLaptop | then i can hook a normal keyboard up the bus and use it instead of the fancy kb they will put in the cockpit, that is still being designed |
| 07:06.18 | scanline | hehe |
| 07:07.00 | KeyserLaptop | the mechanical and electrical guys are dragging their heels, and i am sick of entering waypoint names using cw/ccw turns of a dual concentric knob :D |
| 07:07.37 | scanline | :) |
| 07:10.49 | KeyserLaptop | i think i'll power the USB chip and the 9s12 both off of the USB port, and only hook up to data lines on the connector in the A/C |
| 07:11.05 | KeyserLaptop | then the hardware guys can't bitch as much about it |
| 07:11.12 | KeyserLaptop | maybe |
| 07:11.14 | scanline | yeah, no reason not to if it all draws less than 100ma |
| 07:11.33 | KeyserLaptop | i dunno what the rs485 driver uses, but i don't think it's much |
| 07:11.44 | scanline | those are usually in the 10ma range |
| 07:12.14 | KeyserLaptop | the 9s12 can have a Vcc from like 3v to 5.Xv |
| 07:12.31 | laodamas | Darth Mall, in the conference room, with the flyback transformer |
| 07:12.38 | scanline | hehe |
| 07:12.40 | nullpuppy | ChipX86: were you able to get to netflix? |
| 07:12.45 | nullpuppy | it loaded here eventually |
| 07:13.15 | KeyserLaptop | and the usb chip can have 1.6v to 3.6v, and it has it's own built in 3.3v regulator |
| 07:13.20 | ChipX86 | nullpuppy: yeah |
| 07:14.09 | KeyserLaptop | scanline: you ever run a uC off of USB 5v without a regulator, with just a cap for filtering? |
| 07:17.00 | scanline | KeyserLaptop: how would running a 5V micro off of USB with a 5V regulator help? |
| 07:17.08 | scanline | KeyserLaptop: if anything, the 5V you get from USB is low rather than high |
| 07:17.37 | scanline | a lot of USB micros are 3.3v though. Running a 3.3v micro off of USB with a regulator gives you much cleaner power |
| 07:18.50 | KeyserLaptop | i think when i powered something off of USB, i didn't do anything on the 5v line except put a cap, and i used a lm317 for 3.3v, because i had some in my desk drawer |
| 07:19.04 | scanline | yeah, that's pretty typical |
| 07:19.32 | scanline | though an LM317 really kinda sucks for getting 3.3v from 5v |
| 07:19.38 | KeyserLaptop | yeah :) |
| 07:19.41 | scanline | the dropout voltage is high enough that it's pretty marginal |
| 07:20.03 | scanline | TI makes some nice 3.3v LDOs, and you can get free samples shipped superfast |
| 07:20.41 | scanline | yay for TI buying burr-brown :P |
| 07:21.09 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03davidtrowbridge * 10bzflag/src/common/TextUtils.cxx: This has been bugging me for some time. Maybe this fix even works ;) |
| 07:21.24 | scanline | yikes |
| 07:22.12 | scanline | ah, good :) |
| 07:22.43 | KeyserLaptop | i'll have to unpack my stuff when it gets here from michigan, and take a look |
| 07:23.07 | KeyserLaptop | i think maybe i built a breadboard with the lm317, and then when i ordered 3 boards, i used the ap1086 |
| 07:23.46 | scanline | hmm |
| 07:23.47 | nullpuppy | ode doesnt |
| 07:23.51 | nullpuppy | erm. wrong channel |
| 07:24.08 | scanline | methinks I'm going to spend most of tomorrow working on getting a Python and Twisted interface to the CX micronet running on an XScale board |
| 07:24.39 | scanline | should just be a matter of writing a new transport for my existing micronet code... but I'm worried about the RS-485 timing |
| 07:24.57 | purple_cow | crazy bastard |
| 07:25.06 | scanline | pff |
| 07:25.59 | ChipX86 | I don't think I'm going to go to work tomorrow.. I'll work from here maybe |
| 07:26.32 | CIA-9 | trinity: 03chipx86 * r1554 10gaea/mediaportal/plugins/mediaflix/src/ (Feed.cs Movie.cs netflix/Feed.cs): Added what just might be a working queue fetch implementation. If hell froze over last night. |
| 07:27.53 | KeyserLaptop | hmmm. the 9s12 has dma, it'd be cool to use it to talk to the pdiusbd12 |
| 07:31.07 | Samy | cooo |
| 07:32.06 | ChipX86 | and netflix is down again. |
| 07:32.30 | CIA-9 | trinity: 03chipx86 * r1555 10gaea/mediaportal/plugins/mediaflix/ (src/netflix/Feed.cs tests/GetQueue.cs tests/Makefile): Added a GetQueue test app. |
| 07:36.42 | KeyserLaptop | scanline: where do you buy the pdiusbd12 at? i haven't found it on digikey or mouser |
| 07:40.39 | scanline | KeyserLaptop: haven't yet |
| 07:43.05 | ChipX86 | nullpuppy: can you access it now? |
| 07:43.11 | KeyserLaptop | okay, funny thing on slashdot: |
| 07:43.19 | KeyserLaptop | is the clitoris that thing that hangs down in the back of my throat?? |
| 07:43.19 | KeyserLaptop | Only if you're Linda Lovelace. [imdb.com] |
| 07:44.21 | KeyserLaptop | there is actually a movie called "Deep Throat", where a chick has a medical condition that the comment alluded to, that results in frequent occurences of the title action |
| 07:44.37 | KeyserLaptop | and, this same chick starred in an earlier movie entitled "Dog Fucker" |
| 07:44.48 | ChipX86 | classy. |
| 07:51.01 | scanline | I wonder if Ken Anderson will react at all to having two ACM SRC winners in the class... IIRC he's pretty involved with the ACM on campus |
| 07:51.49 | purple_cow | scanline: you mentioned that in your thingy? |
| 07:51.58 | scanline | yeah. like I said, mine was probably way overdone |
| 07:52.14 | purple_cow | -rw-r--r-- 1 jupiter users 438 Jan 12 16:29 homework1 |
| 07:52.14 | purple_cow | :P |
| 07:52.45 | KeyserLaptop | hehe |
| 07:53.11 | scanline | yay david bowie |
| 07:53.35 | KeyserLaptop | eventually i won't be able to do that anymore |
| 07:53.44 | scanline | the hard rock cafe in salt lake city had a david bowie poster, but they didn't play any of his music :( |
| 07:54.15 | scanline | grrr |
| 07:54.23 | scanline | all of these people wanting CIA keys, but HTTPS is still dead |
| 07:54.31 | KeyserLaptop | hmm. apparently i also mention it in IRC conversations, where it is barely tangentially related... |
| 07:54.36 | Samy | scanline, I can host stuff if you want |
| 07:54.58 | purple_cow | KeyserLaptop: hehe |
| 07:54.58 | Samy | scanline, also, I'm getting a nice machine from PTP hosting, I can help you out with anything you need there. |
| 07:55.09 | Samy | scanline, fat fat fat pipe. |
| 07:55.10 | scanline | Samy: I'm not sure you want to host CIA |
| 07:55.18 | purple_cow | hahaha, PTP hosting? |
| 07:55.23 | Samy | scanline, how much traffic? how much disk space? |
| 07:55.38 | Samy | purple_cow, pulltheplug.com was running for years as a hosting company actually (known as PTP tech). |
| 07:55.49 | scanline | Samy: not sure how much traffic, at least a few GB/month. At least 2GB disk or so. Lots of RAM |
| 07:55.56 | purple_cow | Samy: doesn't mean i'm not allowed to be amused |
| 07:55.57 | Samy | purple_cow, they have a bit of resources, now pulltheplug.com has moved over to .org for this confusion, bunch of new u's donated. |
| 07:56.10 | scanline | Samy: I need http and https ports either directly or through a proxy that won't die |
| 07:56.11 | Samy | purple_cow, haha |
| 07:56.14 | Samy | purple_cow, ok. :) |
| 07:56.29 | Samy | purple_cow, I thought it was amusing too, but not in a pitiful manner. |
| 07:56.38 | scanline | Samy: after PLD though I'm a little wary of any "free" hosting and I'd kind of like to have something where I'm paying for support |
| 07:56.45 | Samy | scanline, once I get this box up I'll make a FreeBSD jail for you. |
| 07:57.00 | Samy | scanline, we'll talk once I have this thing going. |
| 07:57.03 | scanline | ok |
| 07:57.09 | Samy | scanline, the current kerneled.org webserver cannot provide this (the disk space mainly). |
| 07:57.10 | scanline | I'd also like to fix this memory leak before moving CIA |
| 07:57.19 | scanline | need time to do that |
| 07:58.01 | Samy | I can provide you with time. |
| 07:58.08 | scanline | hehe, really? |
| 07:58.11 | Samy | but that is unfortunately $50/hour. |
| 07:58.15 | scanline | aww |
| 07:58.25 | scanline | I can provide myself with time cheaper than that |
| 07:58.28 | Samy | Maybe I can give you a time trial tomorrow :) |
| 07:58.59 | scanline | darth_mall: are you going to the dino party friday? |
| 07:59.55 | scanline | oh, I guess he's asleep |
| 08:15.59 | scanline | purple_cow: so.. I found a really easy last-minute source of laundry quarters |
| 08:16.29 | purple_cow | oh? |
| 08:16.37 | scanline | purple_cow: if you put money in the vending machine in the ground floor of the ECE wing and ask for it back without buying anything, it always gives change in quarters |
| 08:16.42 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03davidtrowbridge * 10bzflag/src/common/TextUtils.cxx: learner, vsprintf is spelled "vsprintf", not "vsnprintf" |
| 08:17.18 | purple_cow | ah |
| 08:18.11 | scanline | but what if safeway isn't open?!?!?!?!?????!111 |
| 08:19.51 | scanline | I call it.. unpacking! |
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| 08:25.23 | scanline | need to get some sleep tonight but not too much... |
| 08:25.24 | JeffM2501 | http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/images/iProduct.gif |
| 08:26.32 | scanline | yep :) |
| 08:26.36 | purple_cow | how true |
| 08:26.55 | scanline | grr |
| 08:26.58 | JeffM2501 | I know people who would buy one of mr. job's dumps too |
| 08:27.32 | scanline | dunno why procmail isn't catching those... |
| 08:27.40 | scanline | but this sure nukes 'em |
| 08:27.42 | scanline | :0 D |
| 08:27.42 | scanline | * ^Subject:.*[sS]t[0O]ck |
| 08:27.42 | scanline | .spam/ |
| 08:28.22 | purple_cow | heh |
| 08:45.59 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6293 10evo/calendar/gui/dialogs/cal-prefs-dialog.glade: make widget names consistent |
| 08:46.53 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 08:52.10 | scanline | hmmmm |
| 08:52.24 | scanline | rex is actually in the central area of spacegrant now, since it was moved after the leak |
| 09:03.27 | scanline | g'night |
| 10:13.55 | scanline | hehe |
| 10:13.59 | scanline | "Silly string is not a nasal spray" |
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| 10:45.23 | scanline | ooh |
| 10:45.25 | scanline | http://www.mathsci.appstate.edu/~sjg/simpsonsmath/degrees.html |
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| 12:27.35 | scanline | You won't be seeing any prison movies where you're going... |
| 12:27.36 | scanline | prison! |
| 12:29.38 | rioter | :( over slept during the day |
| 12:29.41 | rioter | now i cant sleep |
| 12:31.13 | scanline | yeah :( |
| 12:54.35 | scanline | "They want sentiment? I'll pump 'em so full of sap they'll be blowing their nose with a pancake!" |
| 15:38.46 | scanline | brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
| 15:52.58 | darth_mall | hmm... it's almost go time |
| 15:54.57 | scanline | silliness! |
| 15:55.06 | purple_cow | wow |
| 15:55.12 | purple_cow | they're raising the print quota to $9/semester |
| 15:55.21 | scanline | ooh |
| 15:55.34 | scanline | hi slimspace |
| 15:56.07 | slimspace | scanline: should I be able to send micronet commands to the CD the way you have it wired? |
| 15:56.24 | scanline | slimspace: yes, though I have yet to write the software to do so |
| 15:56.55 | slimspace | ah. I just loaded on the mnet tools for yuks, and you're right, I'm not seeing anything. |
| 15:57.03 | scanline | well yeah |
| 15:57.12 | scanline | for RS-485 it needs an rcpod |
| 15:57.18 | scanline | its serial port support is only for critical mode |
| 15:57.23 | slimspace | oh, I see |
| 15:57.37 | scanline | that's what I plan to change at work today :) |
| 15:57.43 | slimspace | cool |
| 15:58.02 | slimspace | we have readline support now too |
| 15:58.08 | scanline | yay |
| 15:58.19 | scanline | are you there right now? |
| 15:58.25 | slimspace | yeah, I came in early |
| 15:58.30 | scanline | crazy! |
| 15:58.40 | slimspace | Tess had a class at 8, so I got up then. |
| 15:58.47 | scanline | yet more crazy! |
| 15:58.59 | darth_mall | slimspace: did you hear anything about that meeting kendra had yesterday with Chris and them? |
| 15:59.09 | slimspace | yes, actually I went to it |
| 15:59.37 | darth_mall | oh, well, then I suppose you would know |
| 15:59.43 | darth_mall | was there any good news? |
| 15:59.51 | slimspace | Very informative, and very good for us. The decision was pretty much unanimously reached to use Dino's FC and software |
| 16:00.09 | darth_mall | yay |
| 16:00.15 | slimspace | Staff even approved it |
| 16:00.40 | scanline | it's like a universal death to SCL :) |
| 16:00.50 | darth_mall | that's the best kind of death |
| 16:01.15 | darth_mall | heh |
| 16:01.32 | slimspace | yeah, SCL is out. They decided that since the money from that has long since dried up, there's no reason to continue trying to use it. |
| 16:01.44 | scanline | yep |
| 16:01.51 | scanline | definitely no technical reason to use SCL.. ever.. |
| 16:02.01 | slimspace | And also since our software promises more complete autonomous operation, Elain thought we could use that as a selling point for getting funding. |
| 16:02.20 | scanline | yeah |
| 16:02.47 | darth_mall | oooh... there's a tango class this friday... |
| 16:06.07 | lurgy | meeOOOOOOOOOOOOOOw |
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| 16:20.31 | kergoth | morning |
| 16:34.09 | CIA-9 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10opencombat_P24/server/src/opencombatd.cpp: |
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| 17:20.25 | CIA-9 | spacegrant: 03maccarro * r701 10dino/trunk/ (24 files in 14 dirs): Uncommitted changes from the DINO FCR. This includes science analysis changes, ground software tweaks, extra commands, and a slightly broken dependency system. |
| 17:22.22 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03darkstar62 * r6294 10rcpod/pyrcpod/i2c/__init__.py: I2C bus tests implemented from DINO FCR |
| 17:27.16 | CIA-9 | spacegrant: 03maccarro * r702 10dino/trunk/fsw/Dino/Hardware/Flight/CameraPair.py: hmm, weird double colons inserted places... |
| 17:32.24 | CIA-9 | openembedded: 03kergoth * r104 10bitbake-ng/ (11 files in 4 dirs): Adjust m4/ area to have dirs for both local .m4 macros, and external ones, so that autoreconf can be run on machines without 'check' instaled. |
| 17:38.35 | KeyserSoze | like a bluetooth wireless KB, that you can plug a USB mouse and USB digital camera and USB memory stick into |
| 17:43.37 | merlin262 | I would be willing to perform this experiment |
| 17:43.39 | merlin262 | :D |
| 17:43.48 | KeyserSoze | do you have two cats of roughly equal mass? |
| 17:43.54 | KeyserSoze | and leg length |
| 17:44.15 | merlin262 | no, but I can get 'em.... |
| 17:44.18 | merlin262 | :D |
| 17:44.49 | KeyserSoze | so that's our null hypothesis :) |
| 17:45.03 | KeyserSoze | it's probably an inverse-square law |
| 17:45.43 | KeyserSoze | and, it's the distance to the surface that's important, not the distance to the center of the earth like for gravity (also inverse-square) |
| 17:46.19 | KeyserSoze | the bottom cat, when facing straight down, will have a larger repulsion force than the upper cat's attractive force when it's pointing straight up |
| 17:47.20 | KeyserSoze | maybe it'll be like an electric motor, where when both cats are horizontal, there is NO force holding them up, and the inertia keeps them rotating into an orientation where repulsion from the surface again occurs |
| 17:48.05 | KeyserSoze | merlin262: get 4 cats. throw two out straight down, and the next two, put some spin on before hand |
| 17:57.25 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 17:57.31 | purple_cow | these new apple LCDs are nice |
| 18:06.53 | KeyserSoze | too low of dpi, IMO |
| 18:07.23 | KeyserSoze | or else lack of everything being made of scalable vector graphics |
| 18:07.26 | KeyserSoze | :) |
| 18:22.21 | kergoth | mm, svg |
| 18:25.54 | KeyserSoze | what was the OS that was most famous for that? |
| 18:32.18 | CIA-9 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.2995 10openembedded/packages/lemon/ (7 files): Add lemon, an LALR(1) parser generator. |
| 18:32.20 | CIA-9 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.2994 10openembedded/classes/base.bbclass: BUGFIX in do_unpack: only create a relative directory structure in WORKDIR when unpacking using cp if the type is file:// (FILESPATH handling). |
| 18:32.22 | CIA-9 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.2972.1.2 10openembedded/packages/klibc/ (klibc.inc klibc_0.190.bb klibc_0.190.bb klibc.inc): Update klibc to 0.190, the latest stable version. |
| 18:33.04 | merlin262 | I'm in this strange mood to write an imap e-mail server |
| 18:33.29 | kergoth | yep, thats a strange mood alright |
| 18:38.19 | CIA-9 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.2992.1.4 10openembedded/packages/ (devmem2/devmem2.bb btxml/btxml.bb): Fix btxml and devmem2 to stop working around the do_unpack bug I just fixed. |
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| 19:16.50 | scanline | ooh, this might be easier than I thought |
| 19:17.01 | kergoth | hmmmmmm |
| 19:23.04 | scanline | but uggggg |
| 19:23.11 | scanline | 6 whole milliseconds? |
| 19:23.57 | scanline | ooh |
| 19:24.01 | scanline | that should actually be fast enough |
| 19:24.05 | scanline | I forgot how slow this bus is |
| 19:32.36 | purple_cow | http://navi.cx/~jupiter/school/MUSC4081 |
| 19:36.29 | scanline | grrr |
| 19:36.54 | slimspace | hehe |
| 19:37.12 | scanline | purple_cow: "centered"? :) |
| 19:37.34 | scanline | purple_cow: your "click here for news" needs to be an RSS aggregator |
| 19:37.48 | purple_cow | scanline: look at the source ;) |
| 19:37.53 | purple_cow | apparently we were wrong |
| 19:37.59 | scanline | purple_cow: hahaha.. what's with the leading spaces? |
| 19:38.00 | purple_cow | html tags have to be closed in the order that they're opened |
| 19:38.12 | scanline | this is great :) |
| 19:38.19 | scanline | a testament to the robustness of modern HTML parsers |
| 19:38.24 | purple_cow | yup |
| 19:38.41 | scanline | I think you also need <html><title>My first website</body><head>text</html> |
| 19:38.52 | purple_cow | you missed the incremental stuff before he got it working |
| 19:39.02 | purple_cow | like <p><align = "center"> ... </align></p> |
| 19:39.09 | scanline | hahaha |
| 19:39.25 | scanline | wait.. this is something the instructor wrote? |
| 19:39.33 | purple_cow | oh yes |
| 19:39.36 | scanline | holy fuck |
| 19:39.38 | purple_cow | we copied it as he did it |
| 19:39.45 | scanline | I thought it was your satire |
| 19:40.01 | nullpuppy | rofl |
| 19:40.10 | scanline | you need to print out the W3C standards so you can throw the book at him |
| 19:40.23 | purple_cow | hehehe |
| 19:40.29 | slimspace | lol |
| 19:40.49 | purple_cow | i seriously considered speaking up about the overlapping tags |
| 19:41.03 | scanline | purple_cow: so you were doing this on navi in class? were most people using UCSU or similar? |
| 19:41.25 | purple_cow | most people were using "BBEdit Light" and saving the file to the desktop |
| 19:41.29 | scanline | ew |
| 19:42.35 | scanline | slimspace: mmmm.. python on the FC is soooo much nicer with readline installed |
| 19:43.01 | slimspace | scanline: glad you like :) |
| 19:43.12 | scanline | slimspace: so it looks like the transmit timing is a lot less bad than I thought |
| 19:43.13 | slimspace | took a whole 100kb of diskspace after compression too |
| 19:43.17 | purple_cow | scanline: weren't you plannning to not go to work for a month? |
| 19:43.29 | scanline | purple_cow: slimspace and I promptly forgot about that |
| 19:43.35 | ChipX86 | bah. |
| 19:43.38 | slimspace | purple_cow: hehe, you're the third person to hit me with that :) |
| 19:43.42 | ChipX86 | http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xdg/2005-January/005700.html |
| 19:43.52 | ChipX86 | I should just get a release out. |
| 19:44.01 | scanline | slimspace: pyserial has methods for flushing buffers explicitly.. using that, I can switch off the transmitter about 6 milliseconds after the packet is actually out the door |
| 19:44.11 | slimspace | cool |
| 19:44.12 | scanline | slimspace: it's kinda crummy latency, but plenty good enough for the mnet |
| 19:44.19 | slimspace | yeah, definitely. |
| 19:44.20 | purple_cow | ChipX86: :P |
| 19:44.59 | scanline | slimspace: so.. as soon as I figure out how arcom has the receive enable line wired up on this thing, I should be able to add support to mnet_tools. Then the tricky part will be making this play nicely with Twisted... one of Twisted's weaknesses really is in transmit-side flow control |
| 19:45.04 | slimspace | s/canceled/cancelled/g |
| 19:45.26 | scanline | if I get really desparate I could just have a mnet thread |
| 19:45.37 | scanline | actually, that might not be a bad idea... |
| 19:45.43 | slimspace | hmm...yeah |
| 19:45.52 | scanline | otherwise overlapping requests will get completely screwed up, since the mnet has no sequence numbers |
| 19:46.34 | scanline | hmm |
| 19:46.43 | slimspace | scanline: I just realized why I can't reproduce the problems we were having in Reno |
| 19:46.48 | scanline | it'd be nice to move mnet_tools into subversion |
| 19:46.53 | scanline | oh? |
| 19:47.06 | slimspace | I don't have a nice way to simulate cutting power from individual chips attached to the RCPOD. |
| 19:47.12 | purple_cow | ugh, navi's load average is ~9 |
| 19:47.19 | scanline | purple_cow: patches welcome |
| 19:47.40 | slimspace | the whole problem was with weird bus states after power was cut. If I just remove the device physically, that problem doesn't occur. |
| 19:47.43 | scanline | purple_cow: some of the SQL queries are taking a lot longer than I'd expect them to, but I haven't had time to fully debug it |
| 19:48.01 | scanline | slimspace: hmm.. is that something that Bus.test() will detect? |
| 19:48.14 | slimspace | pulling it out, or the weird states? |
| 19:48.35 | scanline | slimspace: I'd expect that after power is cut, the bus might end up shorted to ground, or floating without an active pullup. test() should detect those situations |
| 19:48.52 | slimspace | hmm, maybe. I'll try it when I get back to SG |
| 19:48.55 | scanline | k |
| 19:49.12 | scanline | I'm not even sure test() works right. If you don't have any luck with it immediately, I'll try it out on actual hardware |
| 19:49.36 | slimspace | alright. I was half considering asking Jen to help me wire up the actual satellite to play with |
| 19:49.44 | scanline | :) |
| 19:49.52 | scanline | it should be quite easy to hook up |
| 19:50.05 | scanline | all the cables are running out the bottom panel |
| 19:50.13 | slimspace | cool |
| 19:50.27 | scanline | there's 5V for the flight computer, 28V for deployments, 16V for everything else, the serial console, and ethernet |
| 19:50.35 | scanline | the 5V and 16V are labeled |
| 19:50.48 | slimspace | ah |
| 19:51.08 | scanline | make sure that all the cables on the power panel are still in |
| 19:51.17 | scanline | they aren't bolted on, and they could have come loose during transport pretty easily |
| 19:51.22 | slimspace | right |
| 19:51.31 | scanline | and we might want to check on that regulator.. its electrical tape is awfully loose :P |
| 19:51.38 | slimspace | hehe |
| 19:51.48 | slimspace | well, like I said, it was only a half thought |
| 19:51.55 | scanline | have you seen Mike recently? |
| 19:51.59 | slimspace | not today |
| 19:52.02 | scanline | k |
| 19:52.03 | scanline | just curious |
| 19:52.23 | hardwire | hi |
| 19:52.30 | hardwire | hows the sexy people of the universe today? |
| 19:52.41 | slimspace | hardwire: wouldn't know, haven't met any |
| 19:53.20 | hardwire | I am not going to flat out say to a channel full of guys that they are all sexy. |
| 19:53.28 | hardwire | however.. atleast try to feel sexy :) |
| 19:53.31 | hardwire | it puts a grin on your face. |
| 19:53.40 | hardwire | shake dem hips! |
| 19:53.46 | scanline | wobblywoobly |
| 19:54.04 | scanline | grarr... can't get this stupid RS-485 receiver to turn on |
| 19:54.24 | scanline | maybe I didn't do the jumpers right after all, and it's in RS-422 mode still |
| 19:54.39 | slimspace | scanline: do you have the docs for the board? |
| 19:54.44 | scanline | slimspace: I have the data sheet |
| 19:54.49 | slimspace | ok |
| 19:54.50 | scanline | its section on jumper settings really sucks |
| 19:55.17 | slimspace | yeah, it does...if you go on Arcom's website and download the sheets from there, they updated it quite a bit. |
| 19:55.24 | scanline | ah, ok |
| 19:55.42 | slimspace | they'll ask for an email to log in though. Just give them my colorado account. |
| 19:55.48 | scanline | ok |
| 19:55.57 | scanline | maccaro@ ? |
| 19:56.02 | slimspace | maccarro@ |
| 19:56.05 | scanline | :) |
| 19:56.59 | hardwire | hmm |
| 19:57.04 | hardwire | proxim is using what they call a superpacket. |
| 19:57.18 | hardwire | it appears to be a tcp accell for WDS links |
| 19:57.31 | scanline | hah. I love how their web site style completely changes from businessy-tolerable to technical-ugly |
| 19:57.37 | hardwire | otherwise I wouldn't have 7ms ping times over a 5 mile link. with a repeater in the middle. |
| 19:57.41 | scanline | when you click the documentation link |
| 19:57.41 | hardwire | that just doesn't sound right. |
| 19:59.36 | ChipX86 | hah, there's very little to worry about with this project |
| 19:59.41 | ChipX86 | the design sucks |
| 19:59.54 | hardwire | the seagulls are back |
| 19:59.57 | hardwire | they want blood this time |
| 20:00.03 | ChipX86 | it forces everybody away from their current IM clients. It has no error reporting, just true/false on return calls |
| 20:00.06 | scanline | slimspace: wow, this is so much better |
| 20:00.22 | slimspace | scanline: yeah, I've all but given up on the docs on the CD we got. |
| 20:00.24 | ChipX86 | and requires a patched dbus |
| 20:00.47 | purple_cow | eek |
| 20:00.57 | ChipX86 | it looks like it's one account per service too |
| 20:01.07 | ChipX86 | The best is that : |
| 20:01.14 | ChipX86 | - It's as simple as possible. |
| 20:01.22 | ChipX86 | (among other things) |
| 20:01.33 | ChipX86 | simple isn't always better :P That's his reasoning for people using this over galago |
| 20:01.48 | nullpuppy | ChipX86: what is this? |
| 20:01.52 | ChipX86 | http://ofi.hakore.com/ofi/README.OFI |
| 20:02.02 | ChipX86 | someone wants a generic IM interface in DBUS to replace galago and stuff |
| 20:02.09 | ChipX86 | but it just looks badly designed |
| 20:02.26 | ChipX86 | ok, I guess they don't have to leave their current IM clients, but it still seems to be one accoutn per service |
| 20:02.41 | nullpuppy | ah, ok |
| 20:03.03 | ChipX86 | yeah this is pathetic. I'm not going to worry about it |
| 20:04.14 | pagefault | wow it's warm out |
| 20:04.17 | pagefault | 17.3 C |
| 20:04.20 | pagefault | in the middle of january |
| 20:04.53 | purple_cow | ChipX86: any word on libnotify in gnome desktop? |
| 20:04.58 | ChipX86 | nope |
| 20:05.06 | ChipX86 | but someone just told me he's working on C# bindings |
| 20:05.10 | hardwire | libnotify? |
| 20:05.12 | ChipX86 | we're going to push it strongly for 2.12 |
| 20:06.05 | hardwire | i get to bring a cat home today |
| 20:06.08 | hardwire | in a 16 seater plane |
| 20:06.16 | hardwire | thank god the props will drown out the sound of it screaming |
| 20:07.47 | purple_cow | hehe, you get to keep the cat? |
| 20:08.55 | kergoth | bleh |
| 20:11.26 | scanline | hmm, wifi card... |
| 20:11.32 | scanline | CF slot in flight computer... |
| 20:11.52 | purple_cow | heh |
| 20:12.13 | scanline | it'd keep us from having to run ethernet into the clean room :) |
| 20:12.38 | scanline | blerr.. why does the kernel module turn on the RS-485 transmitter by default at boot? |
| 20:13.05 | scanline | between serial port init in the kernel and when our flight software initializes, the RS-485 network is going to be unusable |
| 20:13.11 | scanline | I guess that's no big deal though |
| 20:15.51 | CIA-9 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.2996 10openembedded/packages/netbase/netbase/colinux/ (interfaces interfaces): Add a /etc/network/interfaces file for coLinux. |
| 20:16.57 | ChipX86 | http://img77.exs.cx/img77/2888/catapult1id.gif |
| 20:17.31 | scanline | wooo |
| 20:17.50 | scanline | for minimal values of talking |
| 20:18.16 | CIA-9 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.2997 10openembedded/packages/ (18 files in 15 dirs): Import '[PATCH] more trailing spaces and missing quotes' from Marc Singer. |
| 20:18.19 | ChipX86 | nooooooooo |
| 20:18.22 | ChipX86 | tron remake |
| 20:19.00 | purple_cow | ChipX86: hehe |
| 20:19.09 | purple_cow | ChipX86: remake? last i heard they were making a sequel... |
| 20:19.32 | ChipX86 | oh, it is a sequel |
| 20:19.36 | kergoth | ew |
| 20:23.28 | hardwire | ewwwww |
| 20:23.29 | hardwire | ew |
| 20:24.24 | hardwire | ok |
| 20:24.29 | hardwire | ludicris has a weird ass video |
| 20:24.44 | hardwire | I dunno if any of you watch MTV |
| 20:25.03 | ChipX86 | http://animal.discovery.com/news/briefs/20050110/insectsex.html |
| 20:25.08 | ChipX86 | this is funny :) |
| 20:25.10 | hardwire | but.. he has donky kong arms |
| 20:25.31 | file[laptop] | hardwire: new VoIP carriers are STUPID |
| 20:26.08 | pagefault | bell is starting to offer VoIP prices over POTS |
| 20:26.09 | file | hardwire: one wants to bill us double leg (both inbound/outbound) on incoming calls because they think that by sending it to us over SIP, Level3 is charging them for outbound |
| 20:26.40 | hardwire | hehehehe |
| 20:26.46 | hardwire | you know.. you are paying for a synchronious connection |
| 20:26.59 | hardwire | if they think that.. then they are using an async service somewhere and are covering it up |
| 20:27.04 | file | they claim that when they send it to us, it's going over PSTN... thus they are charged |
| 20:27.53 | file | when it's really going over SIP for free |
| 20:27.53 | pagefault | steve gibson is a moron |
| 20:27.53 | pagefault | he says upnp is evil |
| 20:27.53 | pagefault | and everyone should disable it |
| 20:27.53 | hardwire | pagefault: it is.. but only in some ways :) |
| 20:27.53 | pagefault | only if you don't know how to manage your computer properly |
| 20:27.57 | hardwire | indeed |
| 20:28.02 | hardwire | I think its great |
| 20:28.11 | kergoth | upnp is actually really cool for some things |
| 20:28.14 | kergoth | like device discovery |
| 20:28.15 | pagefault | he should be telling people how to secure their network rather than simply turning it off |
| 20:28.30 | hardwire | set up 200+ inbound UDP ports for voip to each phone that can negotiate it |
| 20:28.37 | hardwire | I think thats kinda neat |
| 20:28.46 | pagefault | yeah |
| 20:29.03 | pagefault | zero configuration is nice |
| 20:30.22 | scanline | yay for having to read my own documentation to remember how this silly thing works |
| 20:31.03 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:31.34 | hardwire | pagefault: zeroconf is cooler. |
| 20:31.41 | pagefault | true |
| 20:31.52 | pagefault | someone was trying to hack my wireless net today apparently |
| 20:32.00 | hardwire | tell them to stop it |
| 20:32.16 | pagefault | well I set it up now so it looks like they get access |
| 20:32.23 | pagefault | but it just redirects them to a page telling them to fuck off |
| 20:32.37 | hardwire | that mac?? |
| 20:32.47 | pagefault | nah just if they get the password wrong |
| 20:33.13 | pagefault | if he comes back though I am just going to ban his mac address |
| 20:33.29 | pagefault | I think it's one of my neighbours |
| 20:36.18 | pagefault | hooray |
| 20:36.23 | pagefault | I can compile zsnes in windows with mingw now |
| 20:36.53 | pagefault | it only took a special modified version of nasm |
| 20:36.56 | pagefault | and a lot of ifdefs |
| 20:38.00 | nullpuppy | w00t! |
| 20:38.02 | nullpuppy | go fedex |
| 20:38.06 | nullpuppy | my mx1k just arrived |
| 20:38.09 | pagefault | fedex is fast |
| 20:38.14 | pagefault | I ordered ram once from the US and it came overnight |
| 20:38.27 | nullpuppy | i ordered this yesterday |
| 20:38.29 | nullpuppy | i think |
| 20:38.40 | nullpuppy | maybe it was tuesday |
| 20:39.11 | nullpuppy | ok, yeah, tuesday |
| 20:40.58 | darth_mall | lol |
| 20:41.09 | nullpuppy | damn... mouse feels soo nice |
| 20:41.12 | nullpuppy | its like.. perfect |
| 20:41.26 | CIA-9 | zsnes: 03pagefault * 10zsnes/src/gui/guiwindp.inc: Changed some text in netplay window to be more clear that we are using TCP mode insted of UDP |
| 20:43.36 | Samy | http://www.JedLUG.org |
| 20:44.43 | nullpuppy | ok, now to get it all plugged in and stuff |
| 20:45.01 | nullpuppy | and... why does it need to be 8" from any electronic devices? |
| 20:45.07 | nullpuppy | *electrical ... |
| 20:45.39 | purple_cow | nullpuppy: the mx1k? |
| 20:45.42 | file[laptop] | I need to send my flight itinerary out... mmm |
| 20:46.31 | darth_mall | Samy: what is that? |
| 20:46.57 | Samy | darth_mall, PHPbb ownage from some kids in Jeddah. |
| 20:47.01 | ChipX86 | my case never got charged and shipped! |
| 20:47.06 | nullpuppy | purple_cow: yeah |
| 20:47.23 | Samy | darth_mall, that is the Jeddah Linux User's Group. |
| 20:47.24 | ChipX86 | damnit |
| 20:48.30 | ChipX86 | wait, did I not buy from these guys? It's more expensive... |
| 20:49.05 | ChipX86 | ahh, I bought it elsewhere! |
| 20:50.19 | purple_cow | nullpuppy: i think the distance thing is just to make sure they can call it part 15 |
| 20:50.27 | purple_cow | it does feel perfect though :) |
| 20:50.32 | merlin262 | So, for my teaching math and CIS class I have to do a 5 minute presentation on an area of interest |
| 20:50.48 | nullpuppy | purple_cow: lol :) |
| 20:50.49 | purple_cow | i've had logitech shaped mice since their first mouseman, and this one is definitely the most comfortable of the bunch |
| 20:50.57 | nullpuppy | purple_cow: looking ath the idiots guide to installing it... |
| 20:51.09 | nullpuppy | purple_cow: yeah |
| 20:51.26 | nullpuppy | the mouseman optical i had before felt great, the dual optical wasn't so spiffy |
| 20:51.29 | nullpuppy | this one though... damn |
| 20:52.05 | purple_cow | :) |
| 20:52.05 | ChipX86 | why is it that I never get any tracking info from usps? |
| 20:52.23 | ChipX86 | it's always "blah blah was notified by the shipper on such and such date to expect your package for mailing' |
| 20:52.26 | purple_cow | ChipX86: USPS tracking costs extra for the sender, so most people don't enable it |
| 20:52.30 | ChipX86 | ah. |
| 20:52.32 | ChipX86 | sucks |
| 20:52.41 | nullpuppy | yeah, and their tracking sucks if they do anyways... |
| 20:52.53 | CIA-9 | zsnes: 03pagefault * 10zsnes/src/initc.c: Percent of execution now takes h-blank values into consideration when calculating new execution time |
| 20:52.53 | ChipX86 | yay, evo! |
| 20:53.01 | purple_cow | USPS is usually faster than all the others for me |
| 20:53.09 | purple_cow | at least for first-class mail |
| 20:53.19 | ChipX86 | I doubt there's a chance anything's arriving today |
| 20:53.20 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 20:53.40 | ChipX86 | yay evo 2.1.3.1! |
| 20:53.44 | purple_cow | :) |
| 20:53.50 | darth_mall | hmm... crap, I'd better get to class |
| 20:53.53 | ChipX86 | it crashed. |
| 20:53.54 | ChipX86 | DAMN |
| 20:54.01 | ChipX86 | this is not a good day for working |
| 20:55.27 | pagefault | get your phone back? |
| 20:55.30 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 20:55.32 | pagefault | cool |
| 20:56.02 | CIA-9 | spacegrant: 03evan * r703 10dino/trunk/fsw/Dino/ADCS/SGP4.py: |
| 20:56.02 | CIA-9 | spacegrant: Turn the SGP4 class into an iterable class, move the time dependent |
| 20:56.02 | CIA-9 | spacegrant: calculations into a second class that represents one data set for the |
| 20:56.02 | CIA-9 | spacegrant: specific time the algorithm was run. |
| 20:58.01 | TD | hello ChipX86 |
| 20:58.04 | ChipX86 | hi |
| 20:58.07 | ChipX86 | how goes it? |
| 20:59.40 | kergoth | ~emulate carlin |
| 20:59.41 | jbot | it sounds like a snack food. new nabisco tits! |
| 20:59.55 | ChipX86 | ah-ha. Bug in gtkhtml since the last. Revertinate! |
| 21:00.08 | file[laptop] | Revertination in process. |
| 21:01.53 | TD | ChipX86: not bad, not bad |
| 21:02.00 | TD | ChipX86: debating security on d-d-l :) fun |
| 21:02.02 | ChipX86 | oh great |
| 21:02.10 | ChipX86 | did you see the new galago "competitor?" |
| 21:02.16 | Samy | ? |
| 21:02.49 | ChipX86 | http://ofi.hakore.com |
| 21:03.01 | ChipX86 | "We made it as simple as possible. Therefore, it's the best!" |
| 21:03.37 | ChipX86 | some people claim I've made galago "complicated" for no reason, and that it could be simpler. Some of them who have actually listened to the reasoning have realized why it's not brain-dead simple |
| 21:06.25 | nullpuppy | hmm |
| 21:06.58 | nullpuppy | i could either find a cheap case to move my k6-2 into, or i can just retire it, and replace it with a tiny, cheap micro-atx system |
| 21:07.41 | nullpuppy | or find a nice cheap case that i can stick my 1800+ into.. |
| 21:10.12 | nullpuppy | damn decisions |
| 21:10.13 | nullpuppy | hmm |
| 21:10.16 | kergoth | galago seems pretty simple to me. at least, as simple as it can be while retaining the utmost flexibility |
| 21:10.28 | ChipX86 | it is |
| 21:10.41 | ChipX86 | what confuses people is the need to merge info from multiple sources and keep it in a centralized form |
| 21:10.51 | ChipX86 | people want every app to talk to every other app and just not merge info, but then you run into problems |
| 21:10.57 | nullpuppy | i could do what i want essentially for just over a $100 with cheap parts |
| 21:11.03 | ChipX86 | I didn't exactly start with this more "complex" version |
| 21:11.08 | nullpuppy | ChipX86: hahaha |
| 21:11.29 | nullpuppy | ChipX86: you need to slap those people that don't understand with a 10 ton cluestick |
| 21:11.33 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 21:12.15 | nullpuppy | hmm |
| 21:12.26 | nullpuppy | i need a 2nd head too |
| 21:13.22 | nullpuppy | grrr, atx desktop cases are at least $100 on newegg |
| 21:13.27 | scanline | hah |
| 21:13.35 | scanline | go to compusa and get a crappy case for $15 |
| 21:13.44 | nullpuppy | where as i can get a microatx case, cheap ass mobo, and some cheap ram for that much |
| 21:13.57 | nullpuppy | scanline: haha |
| 21:14.20 | nullpuppy | scanline: unfortunately, i'm not sure i could find what i want at compusa |
| 21:15.17 | purple_cow | ChipX86: seems to me they just have an irrational fear of daemons |
| 21:15.24 | ChipX86 | they do |
| 21:15.31 | ChipX86 | it's common lately. Not sure what triggered that |
| 21:15.48 | file[laptop] | I need food |
| 21:16.55 | ChipX86 | wtf, netflix took away ratings. I bet something broke |
| 21:17.02 | ChipX86 | that completely screws up my code :) |
| 21:19.08 | ChipX86 | that was the most interesting phone call I've had in a while |
| 21:19.22 | ChipX86 | Palo Alto is on mountain lion alert |
| 21:19.28 | purple_cow | woo! |
| 21:19.31 | purple_cow | gnome bonsai is back |
| 21:19.34 | ChipX86 | we're advised to bring in our pets and if we see any mountain lions around our homes, please call the police department. |
| 21:20.14 | ChipX86 | I didn't know we had mountain lions around here.. |
| 21:20.21 | nullpuppy | hmm |
| 21:20.37 | nullpuppy | 19" acer lcd for 345... max res is only 1280x1024 though |
| 21:20.52 | ChipX86 | nullpuppy: pay a little more, get the dell 20.1" LCD |
| 21:21.07 | nullpuppy | how much? |
| 21:21.25 | ChipX86 | every week, they have a sale and they drop it a little more. Last time, it was $540 |
| 21:21.35 | ChipX86 | they're *really* good |
| 21:21.39 | nullpuppy | hmm |
| 21:21.43 | ChipX86 | we have them at work |
| 21:22.03 | nullpuppy | http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?sku=320-1578&c=us&l=en&cs=19&category_id=2999&page=external |
| 21:22.06 | nullpuppy | that one? |
| 21:22.35 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 21:22.42 | ChipX86 | that'll drop soon |
| 21:22.48 | ChipX86 | watch dealnews.com every day. They keep track |
| 21:23.14 | nullpuppy | hmm |
| 21:23.22 | ChipX86 | kergoth has the widescreen version |
| 21:23.32 | nullpuppy | if i can get it under $500, i just might do that |
| 21:23.44 | ChipX86 | that's hwat i'm waiting for too |
| 21:23.53 | nullpuppy | for 20.1 with max of 16x12 .. for what is essentially a samsung |
| 21:23.58 | purple_cow | hmm, only 400:1 |
| 21:24.00 | nullpuppy | yeah, i think thats reasonable ;) |
| 21:24.16 | ChipX86 | grrr |
| 21:24.25 | ChipX86 | gtkhtml HEAD is broken. evo HEAD requires gtkhtml HEAD. |
| 21:24.32 | purple_cow | =P |
| 21:24.34 | ChipX86 | maybe I'll just not e-mail work and just give up for the day. |
| 21:24.46 | ChipX86 | or revert this one problem file |
| 21:27.48 | CIA-9 | spacegrant: 03dowty * 10cx/ground/mnet_tools/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Refactor serial interface code into an abstract base class and a simple subclass implementing critical mode. Ditch our hokey serial port abstraction and use pyserial. |
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| 21:31.24 | nullpuppy | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=86706&item=5155160489&rd=1 |
| 21:31.27 | nullpuppy | neat |
| 21:32.25 | ChipX86 | it's already going to be more expensive than you'll pay from del |
| 21:32.28 | ChipX86 | er, dell |
| 21:32.51 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 21:32.58 | nullpuppy | cool auction though... |
| 21:33.22 | nullpuppy | he's going to donate at least half of the money made from it to charity of buyers choice |
| 21:35.42 | KeyserSoze | compact flash would probably be easier, wouldn't it? |
| 21:36.20 | TD | ChipX86: yeah i saw ofi |
| 21:36.33 | TD | ChipX86: i hope you saw me defend galago with the rapier-like blade of logic :) |
| 21:36.44 | TD | oh wait |
| 21:36.56 | ChipX86 | TD: haven't yet |
| 21:36.57 | TD | ikke was the DAL dude. i'm thinking of Igor |
| 21:37.12 | KeyserSoze | so the uC would sit on the bus on one side, and it'd log everything it sees to persistant storage. then the storage could be removed from the logger, and plugged into a PC |
| 21:37.40 | TD | http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xdg/2005-January/005702.html |
| 21:37.49 | TD | ChipX86: there. i hope i characterised it OK |
| 21:38.07 | KeyserSoze | the easy way is to just stream the data from the logger to a PC's USB port, and the person on the PC opens an app to log it (or pipes /dev/fakeserialport to a file, or uses hyperterminal on the fake serial port) |
| 21:38.30 | ChipX86 | TD: thanks :) |
| 21:39.45 | TD | ChipX86: you should go in and do it properly later ... |
| 21:39.51 | ChipX86 | yeah |
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| 21:43.39 | file[laptop] | woot buying my plane ticket tonight |
| 21:45.05 | CIA-9 | spacegrant: 03dowty * 10cx/ground/mnet_tools/mnet/Interface.py: Add a new NativeInterface for serial ports with RS-485 transceivers. This has been tested successfully on the Arcom Viper flight computer, and should also work with our "blue box" RS-232 to -485 converter. |
| 21:45.06 | nullpuppy | purple_cow: how long does the initial charge take? |
| 21:45.49 | nullpuppy | or is this really already fully charged... |
| 21:46.04 | purple_cow | nullpuppy: it comes mostly charged |
| 21:46.11 | nullpuppy | sweet |
| 21:46.11 | purple_cow | mine had 2 bars when i got it |
| 21:46.25 | nullpuppy | i plugged it in, put it on the charger |
| 21:46.31 | nullpuppy | and like.. 3seconds, it was full |
| 21:48.49 | nullpuppy | purple_cow: ok.. now.. what do i need to add in my xorg.conf to make all the buttons work? |
| 21:49.23 | purple_cow | nullpuppy: i dunno =P |
| 21:49.27 | nullpuppy | ok :) |
| 21:49.31 | purple_cow | sweet jesus |
| 21:49.45 | purple_cow | the academic price on this laptop configuration is $400 more than the small business price |
| 21:50.24 | nullpuppy | haha |
| 21:53.40 | file[laptop] | this is horrible |
| 21:53.46 | file[laptop] | thankfully I have... enough time... maybe |
| 21:53.56 | file[laptop] | 1 week, 4 weeks, 2 weeks... 7 weeks... yeah |
| 22:00.57 | kergoth | bleh! |
| 22:01.46 | file[laptop] | or do I... |
| 22:04.44 | scanline | something really screwy is going on with the LAN here... |
| 22:05.00 | scanline | I'm scp |
| 22:05.01 | scanline | er |
| 22:05.17 | scanline | I'm scp'ing from my laptop to this ARM board at about 12 KB/s |
| 22:05.30 | slimspace | nger... |
| 22:05.32 | scanline | and earlier today it wasn't working at all |
| 22:05.41 | scanline | slimspace: mnetshell works on the FC :) |
| 22:05.47 | slimspace | sweet! |
| 22:05.56 | scanline | :) |
| 22:09.13 | ChipX86 | awesome. I can no longer commit to galago svn on navi.cx |
| 22:09.23 | scanline | why not? |
| 22:09.26 | ChipX86 | no clue. |
| 22:09.33 | scanline | what are the symptoms? |
| 22:09.36 | ChipX86 | it's not accepting my login and password |
| 22:09.43 | scanline | hm |
| 22:09.49 | ChipX86 | svn: MKACTIVITY of /svn/galago/!svn/act/f4ad3529-96ed-0310-85bf-e10ac84a428c: authorization failed (http://navi.cx) |
| 22:10.40 | file[laptop] | ChipX86: awww |
| 22:11.01 | scanline | ChipX86: I don't see anything wrong with it. I can try restarting apache |
| 22:11.15 | ChipX86 | hmm |
| 22:11.34 | ChipX86 | one sec |
| 22:11.39 | ChipX86 | oops |
| 22:11.50 | nullpuppy | grrr |
| 22:12.45 | ChipX86 | which? |
| 22:12.56 | purple_cow | we'd release according to a fibonacci sequence |
| 22:13.00 | file[laptop] | I should have a nap |
| 22:13.00 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 22:13.05 | purple_cow | so first 1.0, then 1.0, then 2.0, 3.0, 5.0... |
| 22:13.10 | ChipX86 | it should be fibonnaci.pi |
| 22:13.12 | nullpuppy | lol |
| 22:13.26 | CIA-9 | galago: 03chipx86 * r1475 10galago-daemon/ (ChangeLog configure.ac): $SHAREDIR should have been $LIBDIR. |
| 22:14.12 | purple_cow | the best feature of which being of course that there are two version 1.0s :) |
| 22:14.18 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 22:15.07 | ChipX86 | uh oh, I told a co-worker that I work on Evolution.. now it's question time :/ |
| 22:15.12 | purple_cow | hahaha |
| 22:15.46 | purple_cow | oof, cold forecast this weekend |
| 22:17.05 | ChipX86 | grrr, I can't vncviewer into my box now |
| 22:18.44 | nullpuppy | ok... better... my xorg doenst like evdev apparently |
| 22:19.11 | scanline | I didn't know that X had working support for evdev |
| 22:19.50 | purple_cow | wowie |
| 22:19.51 | purple_cow | http://imgseek.sourceforge.net/sshot/9814e2bd8884d0d96a7d19c0a42403d5.png |
| 22:20.10 | ChipX86 | wow |
| 22:20.10 | nullpuppy | well.. i found a howto on getting everything working for my mx1k and thats what it said |
| 22:20.13 | ChipX86 | that's awesome :) |
| 22:20.17 | nullpuppy | but... it likes to crash my x... |
| 22:20.30 | purple_cow | http://imgseek.sourceforge.net/sshot/5bc2085ed33f9694629e7891de009e06.png |
| 22:20.54 | ChipX86 | geeze |
| 22:21.03 | ChipX86 | so much potential there :) |
| 22:21.08 | purple_cow | yup |
| 22:21.11 | purple_cow | http://imgseek.sourceforge.net/sshot/8e2883569953393f7e01ab76b5c10065.png |
| 22:22.12 | ChipX86 | I need to set up beagle |
| 22:24.44 | nullpuppy | grrr |
| 22:24.59 | nullpuppy | xorg needs to stablize i a bit more on amd64 |
| 22:26.08 | ChipX86 | there's no way things can be this slow on this processor. I wonder if my kernel has something screwed up in it |
| 22:26.36 | nullpuppy | there we go, scroll wheel works now |
| 22:27.58 | ChipX86 | stupid QA.. |
| 22:28.06 | ChipX86 | they should know more than they do |
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| 22:35.38 | purple_cow | ChipX86: did you see my first web page? |
| 22:35.56 | ChipX86 | nope |
| 22:36.02 | purple_cow | http://navi.cx/~jupiter/school/MUSC4081/ :) |
| 22:36.14 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 22:36.17 | ChipX86 | exciting |
| 22:36.27 | ChipX86 | the centered text isn't centered |
| 22:36.28 | purple_cow | we learned how to do that in class today |
| 22:36.34 | purple_cow | i know |
| 22:36.38 | purple_cow | look at the source ;) |
| 22:36.46 | ChipX86 | hahaha |
| 22:36.57 | nullpuppy | lol |
| 22:37.11 | nullpuppy | purple_cow: did your prof actually show you that? |
| 22:37.19 | purple_cow | nullpuppy: absolutely |
| 22:37.24 | ChipX86 | still can't beat http://www.chipx86.com/mycoolpage/ |
| 22:37.26 | nullpuppy | rofl |
| 22:38.00 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 22:38.05 | ChipX86 | look at the source code for the pages |
| 22:38.08 | nullpuppy | ChipX86: you need a <marque> in the bottom frame or something |
| 22:38.12 | ChipX86 | heh yeah |
| 22:38.25 | ChipX86 | <Html> |
| 22:38.25 | ChipX86 | <TITLE>(-- mY 1337 h0me p4g3!!!!! --)</title> |
| 22:38.26 | ChipX86 | </HEAD> |
| 22:38.34 | nullpuppy | well.. maybe not in the bottom fram, but somewhere |
| 22:39.05 | ChipX86 | the left frame's text is supposed to blink |
| 22:39.10 | ChipX86 | I guess they removed that from mozilla :) |
| 22:39.16 | nullpuppy | it does |
| 22:39.21 | nullpuppy | in firefox at least.. |
| 22:39.21 | ChipX86 | oh, not here |
| 22:39.27 | purple_cow | god, it's making my firefox thrash |
| 22:39.27 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 22:39.41 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 22:39.44 | ChipX86 | they should fix that. |
| 22:40.04 | ChipX86 | I want a package to arrive |
| 22:40.26 | nullpuppy | your htpc case and stuff? |
| 22:40.31 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 22:42.22 | ChipX86 | eep, 42 new bug e-mails |
| 22:42.49 | ChipX86 | excellent. Evo crashed again. |
| 22:42.56 | ChipX86 | I want my laptop back. |
| 22:43.22 | nullpuppy | i need a new laptop :/ |
| 22:43.47 | ChipX86 | wtf |
| 22:43.53 | ChipX86 | someone filed bugs in vmware against the gtk file chooser |
| 22:44.05 | ChipX86 | he wants us to make a new one |
| 22:45.07 | ChipX86 | someone else is saying we should migrate it to Qt now |
| 22:45.20 | ChipX86 | I thought this stupidity only existed in open source |
| 22:46.17 | nullpuppy | rofl |
| 22:46.53 | nullpuppy | at least they didn't recommend something like fltk or tk or something.. |
| 22:47.00 | nullpuppy | qt i can almost understand |
| 22:47.39 | ChipX86 | there's no way we're going to port everything to qt because a KDE user who's a developer at VMware doesn't like gtk |
| 22:47.49 | ChipX86 | a RH9 KDE user, btw |
| 22:47.51 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 22:47.53 | nullpuppy | lol |
| 22:48.09 | nullpuppy | still using xfree too probably |
| 22:48.16 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 22:49.19 | darth_mall | "This is to notify you that Order #2005-01-5297 has been shipped or will be shipped very soon" |
| 22:49.29 | darth_mall | such useful e-mails they give me |
| 22:49.39 | ChipX86 | uh oh, look what I've done |
| 22:50.14 | ChipX86 | I sent the Monkey Developers song with Steve Ballmer in it to one of our listservs, and now everybody is going around sending similar things |
| 22:53.20 | nullpuppy | haha |
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| 22:56.47 | darth_mall | well, that was fun |
| 22:57.50 | kergoth | BLEH |
| 22:57.56 | darth_mall | kergoth: me too |
| 22:58.02 | kergoth | :\ |
| 22:58.19 | pagefault | mmm very good beer |
| 22:58.19 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: NO! I won't have it. |
| 22:58.54 | purple_cow | ChipX86: your choice |
| 22:59.05 | ChipX86 | actually, I don't know that I've had either |
| 22:59.43 | ChipX86 | this amuses me. Every day since Jocelyn's been gone, we'd had ~3 people not show up to work |
| 23:00.50 | purple_cow | who is jocelyn? |
| 23:01.27 | darth_mall | not me |
| 23:01.38 | ChipX86 | oh, my manager |
| 23:01.49 | ChipX86 | she's on maternal leave for 3 months |
| 23:03.32 | darth_mall | hmm... that's what I need, maternal leave |
| 23:03.54 | ChipX86 | me too |
| 23:04.08 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 23:04.11 | purple_cow | http://www.esquilax.com/baywatch/index.shtml |
| 23:04.22 | darth_mall | yay baywatch |
| 23:04.26 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 23:05.02 | darth_mall | now hang on a second, Baywatch sucked, as did that detective spin off he did |
| 23:05.14 | darth_mall | but Nightrider, that was a wicked cool show |
| 23:05.38 | purple_cow | i love the numerology section |
| 23:07.17 | lurgy | :) |
| 23:07.28 | ChipX86 | yay progress |
| 23:07.40 | darth_mall | hi lurgy |
| 23:08.18 | lurgy | morning |
| 23:11.08 | CIA-9 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10opencombat_P24/docs/game_types.rtf: notes on posible difrent game modes |
| 23:11.22 | KeyserSoze | woah. www.sparkfun.com has custom PCBs for $2.50 per square inch. minimum order 1 square inch :D, max size 10"x15", no limits on number of vias, order in any quatity you like, shipping included |
| 23:11.36 | KeyserSoze | 2 layer, with silkscreen and solder mask |
| 23:11.49 | purple_cow | wow, cool |
| 23:11.54 | KeyserSoze | silksreen both sides, even |
| 23:12.01 | KeyserSoze | holy shit that's cool |
| 23:12.41 | purple_cow | probably not quite as good pricing and advanced circuits for scanline's average gizmo, but great for the random board |
| 23:12.42 | KeyserSoze | i paid like $60 last time i got 3 boards, and i only really wanted one, and it was about 8 sq inches |
| 23:12.57 | KeyserSoze | the cool thing is you can get 1 small board really cheap |
| 23:13.17 | KeyserSoze | and i didn't get silksreen/solder mask, either |
| 23:13.33 | KeyserSoze | they lists specs: |
| 23:13.33 | KeyserSoze | http://www.sparkfun.com/shop/index.php?shop=1&cart=134909&cat=86& |
| 23:13.41 | KeyserSoze | but yeah, they might be crap when you get them |
| 23:14.43 | KeyserSoze | you know, right around the time i left my job two jobs ago, i layed out this little board, 1"x1.5" |
| 23:15.14 | purple_cow | hmm, it's outsourced to some chinese company |
| 23:15.16 | KeyserSoze | and i never got any made because I didn't want to pay through the nose for them out of my own pocket, just to show my employer how stupid their previous design was |
| 23:16.53 | KeyserSoze | i don't have software that makes gerber files or protel files |
| 23:17.28 | purple_cow | KeyserSoze: protel has a 30-day trial thingy |
| 23:17.30 | purple_cow | that's what scanline uses |
| 23:17.41 | KeyserSoze | for how long? :p |
| 23:18.18 | purple_cow | he just has a vmware image from before installation |
| 23:18.24 | KeyserSoze | ah |
| 23:18.25 | purple_cow | when it expires, he copies that |
| 23:18.29 | KeyserSoze | hehe |
| 23:18.30 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 23:19.18 | purple_cow | tigibop tigibop! tigibop tigibop! |
| 23:21.34 | scanline | KeyserSoze: oooooooooooh |
| 23:22.30 | ChipX86 | TD: C# bindings are being made for libnotify |
| 23:22.31 | KeyserSoze | hehe. that site also has a floating point math coprocessor, and it's SPI |
| 23:22.39 | ChipX86 | or wait, did I say that already? |
| 23:22.49 | TD | ChipX86: you didn't. cool. |
| 23:22.53 | scanline | KeyserSoze: sparkfun is neat. that's where I got the RF modules for our wireless therms, and my hot air soldering iron |
| 23:23.00 | ChipX86 | not by me, but by a guy in #dashboard |
| 23:23.04 | TD | interesting |
| 23:23.10 | TD | we may need to update it to the latest dbus spec soon |
| 23:23.13 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 23:23.19 | ChipX86 | latest dbus spec? |
| 23:23.19 | TD | the new recursive type system can't handle our [ab]use of NULL |
| 23:23.22 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 23:23.25 | KeyserSoze | did you see those new soldering irons, that don't heat up until you touch them to solder? |
| 23:23.27 | ChipX86 | seriously? |
| 23:23.32 | ChipX86 | KeyserSoze: I own one |
| 23:23.33 | ChipX86 | they rock |
| 23:23.49 | KeyserSoze | it seems too good to be true |
| 23:23.50 | TD | Subject: recursive types work |
| 23:23.50 | ChipX86 | I turned it on, immediately soldered, turned it off, and immediately touched it. Felt like it was never on. |
| 23:23.55 | TD | Some of the major decision points: |
| 23:23.55 | TD | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:23.55 | TD | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:23.55 | TD | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:24.00 | ChipX86 | wow |
| 23:24.03 | TD | which means a protocol redesign .... |
| 23:24.04 | KeyserSoze | ChipX86: battery powered? |
| 23:24.08 | ChipX86 | TD: that sucks :P |
| 23:24.09 | ChipX86 | KeyserSoze: yeah |
| 23:24.15 | KeyserSoze | that's insane! |
| 23:24.16 | TD | yeah :/ |
| 23:24.29 | TD | hopefully after that it'll go stable. we couldn't seriously propose it as a spec until dbus was stable anyway |
| 23:24.36 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 23:24.42 | ChipX86 | that means some changes in galago too.. *sigh* |
| 23:24.50 | ChipX86 | when is this being released? Any estimate? |
| 23:25.05 | TD | no clue |
| 23:25.29 | ChipX86 | was this 0.23 or 0.24? |
| 23:25.34 | ChipX86 | (with the new changes) |
| 23:25.48 | TD | joes 0.23 announce email helpfully didn't mention any of the changes |
| 23:26.21 | TD | it's not in 0.23 |
| 23:26.23 | TD | so i guess 0.24? |
| 23:26.54 | TD | http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/dbus/2004-December/001836.html |
| 23:26.58 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6295 10evo/calendar/gui/dialogs/ (cal-prefs-dialog.c cal-prefs-dialog.h): lots of implementation |
| 23:27.01 | ChipX86 | hrm |
| 23:27.17 | darth_mall | purple_cow: no more evolution for you! |
| 23:27.27 | purple_cow | bah |
| 23:28.02 | darth_mall | nope |
| 23:28.07 | darth_mall | or... yes |
| 23:30.01 | ChipX86 | I want NIL back. |
| 23:30.16 | ChipX86 | I really don't see the reason to remove NIL |
| 23:30.29 | ChipX86 | NIL is the glue that holds the world together |
| 23:31.14 | KeyserSoze | does OrCAD do gerber files? |
| 23:31.22 | KeyserSoze | they have it at work, and have a site license |
| 23:31.43 | scanline | KeyserSoze: yeah |
| 23:31.53 | scanline | KeyserSoze: a PCB program is pretty useless if it doesn't make gerbers |
| 23:32.08 | KeyserSoze | does eagle? |
| 23:32.09 | scanline | yes |
| 23:32.26 | KeyserSoze | hmmm |
| 23:32.26 | scanline | the only software and board house I've seen that don't use gerber files would be that crappy ExpressPCB thing |
| 23:32.33 | KeyserSoze | hehe |
| 23:32.37 | KeyserSoze | it's not so bad! |
| 23:32.42 | scanline | eh |
| 23:32.46 | ChipX86 | mmm... gerbers.. with their little cages and cute little beedy eyes |
| 23:32.57 | KeyserSoze | there are other el cheapo board houses that have proprietary software, too |
| 23:32.57 | scanline | KeyserSoze: they're overpriced, their software sucks, and it isn't portable with anything else |
| 23:33.26 | KeyserSoze | i didn't think they were overpriced, until i saw this no minimum, 2.5$/"^2 deal |
| 23:33.34 | KeyserSoze | where do you get boards from? |
| 23:33.40 | scanline | advanced circuits |
| 23:33.43 | scanline | http://4pcb.com |
| 23:33.51 | scanline | they have this nice $33/each deal |
| 23:34.10 | scanline | but I'm definitely going to have to try this 2.5$ deal :) |
| 23:34.42 | KeyserSoze | but, didn't actually *need* 3 boards |
| 23:34.47 | KeyserSoze | so it wasn't so hot of a price |
| 23:34.50 | scanline | isn't that without silkscreen and solder mask? |
| 23:34.55 | KeyserSoze | yeah |
| 23:35.08 | KeyserSoze | but i did all through hole components, and it didn't matter at the time |
| 23:35.24 | scanline | the ADCS guy here bought 4-layer silkscreened and solder masked boards from advanced circuits, with tab routing |
| 23:35.29 | scanline | something like $500 |
| 23:35.33 | KeyserSoze | eeek |
| 23:35.35 | scanline | and he screwed up the design a couple times to |
| 23:35.39 | scanline | :P |
| 23:35.42 | KeyserSoze | haha |
| 23:35.46 | darth_mall | ooooh! Kung Fu the Legend Continues on DVD |
| 23:36.19 | darth_mall | oh wait, that's the original Kung Fu, even better |
| 23:36.35 | scanline | I love it when other teams spend more on one part than I've ever spent here |
| 23:36.48 | KeyserSoze | hehe |
| 23:37.39 | darth_mall | heh, and people wonder why we don't have any money |
| 23:38.15 | KeyserSoze | what's ADCS? is this where you guys are doing a coop/internship, or another company? |
| 23:38.32 | scanline | ADCS == attitude determination and control system |
| 23:38.37 | KeyserSoze | and, is the place you work at a regular for-profit company that hires students, or like an educational gig? |
| 23:38.39 | scanline | it's just one of our subsystems |
| 23:38.45 | KeyserSoze | oh, so same project as you, gotcha |
| 23:39.10 | scanline | it's student employment run by the university |
| 23:39.17 | darth_mall | yay by! |
| 23:39.26 | purple_cow | darth_mall: weirdo |
| 23:39.35 | scanline | but spacegrant has to find their own money.... typically grants from places like NASA |
| 23:39.37 | KeyserSoze | do you work with grown ups, too? :) |
| 23:39.51 | scanline | hehe |
| 23:40.01 | scanline | there are a few staff members here, and we collaborate with industry |
| 23:40.07 | scanline | but pretty much all the real work is done by undergrads |
| 23:40.22 | KeyserSoze | do you pick your own projects? |
| 23:40.27 | darth_mall | purple_cow: am not |
| 23:40.32 | KeyserSoze | or does an instructor kinda lead the team? |
| 23:40.45 | scanline | KeyserSoze: pretty much, but it depends on who needs help at the time and which projects have funding |
| 23:44.43 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 23:44.49 | purple_cow | iwork actually looks kind of neat |
| 23:44.59 | ChipX86 | got a screenshot? |
| 23:45.00 | purple_cow | sort of a lickable cross between word and publisher |
| 23:45.08 | ChipX86 | you can lick it? |
| 23:45.09 | purple_cow | http://www.apple.com/iwork/ |
| 23:45.13 | purple_cow | ChipX86: well, it's apple |
| 23:45.20 | ChipX86 | can we put caramel on it? |
| 23:45.26 | ChipX86 | hey neat |
| 23:46.14 | lurgy | ChipX86: something's wrong with freedesktop svn right now? can't get to the ol' galago... :'( |
| 23:46.21 | ChipX86 | http://navi.cx/svn/galago/ |
| 23:46.31 | ChipX86 | daniels, despite repeated proddings, never fixed it on fd.o |
| 23:46.31 | lurgy | ooh |
| 23:46.35 | lurgy | boo |
| 23:46.38 | lurgy | yay for on navi though |
| 23:46.41 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 23:46.54 | TD | i never figured out what the FDO admins spend all their time doing |
| 23:47.03 | ChipX86 | drinking |
| 23:47.51 | darth_mall | kind of like lurgy |
| 23:48.50 | purple_cow | aww, it's not set to autocheckout into /navi/svn |
| 23:49.13 | ChipX86 | didn't know it was supposed to |
| 23:49.19 | ChipX86 | or how to do that :) |
| 23:49.39 | purple_cow | ChipX86: it allows those of us who have /navi nfs-mounted to tab-complete paths :) |
| 23:49.50 | ChipX86 | ahh |
| 23:49.53 | ChipX86 | neat |
| 23:50.27 | ChipX86 | e-mail seems to be one of those things we still can't do very well |
| 23:51.29 | purple_cow | ChipX86: OK if i change your hooks to do it? |
| 23:51.48 | ChipX86 | yeah, although eventually it'll move back to fd.o |
| 23:51.52 | ChipX86 | I think |
| 23:55.38 | purple_cow | ? |
| 23:56.04 | ChipX86 | steph's brother just joined one of my channels. He only does that when he has to talk to me about steph, which is never good |
| 23:56.17 | ChipX86 | and I haven't talked to either of them since she left |
| 23:57.47 | ChipX86 | he hasn't said anything yet.. not sure if I should say hi or just wait |
| 23:59.22 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03darkstar62 * r6296 10rcpod/pyrcpod/i2c/__init__.py: fixed problem with clock line not being set to anything consistant in i2c bus test |
| 23:59.54 | darth_mall | ChipX86: the steph that used to be here? |
| 23:59.57 | ChipX86 | yeah |
