| 00:00.21 | purple_cow | scanline: does your DNS do-widget allow you to mess with the TTL? |
| 00:00.27 | purple_cow | if so, you should drop it to an hour or so |
| 00:01.16 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6125 10rcpod/ads7828_graph.py: Add a demo program for the ADS7828. Yay, looks like our implementation of it worked. |
| 00:01.18 | scanline | purple_cow: nope |
| 00:01.37 | scanline | at least not last time I checked |
| 00:10.40 | gonkulator | beep-media-player? |
| 00:13.47 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6126 10rcpod/pyrcpod/i2c/ti.py: Fix the channel numbering, when building the command byte I forgot to use channelTable. |
| 00:13.49 | scanline | gonkulator: ? |
| 00:14.03 | scanline | heh |
| 00:14.12 | scanline | I meant the snickers |
| 00:14.26 | scanline | yay.. looks like this A/D board is working correctly now |
| 00:15.44 | purple_cow | does anyone have a copy of 'the virgin suicides' ? |
| 00:15.49 | purple_cow | the soundtrack is making me want to see the movie again |
| 00:36.18 | ChipX86 | *grumble* some days, waking up is the worst possible thing you can do |
| 00:36.23 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:36.23 | kergoth | yep |
| 00:37.50 | ChipX86 | on top of being on the roof hooking up a satellite dish in the cold wind for an hour, and getting yelled at by a now former client who is very pissed at me for not spending my vacation time fixing his network, and even the little things like no hot water during my shower, my mom has now lectured me on how I shouldn't hang out with my female friends (read: all my friends) now that I'm with Jamie. |
| 00:38.37 | CIA-5 | libIRC: 03jeffm2501 * 10libirc/src/ (IRCClient.cpp IRCServer.cpp TCPConnection.cpp libIRC.cpp): start server TCP connection class |
| 00:38.38 | purple_cow | =/ |
| 00:39.12 | CIA-5 | libIRC: 03jeffm2501 * 10libirc/include/ (IRCClient.h IRCServer.h TCPConnection.h libIRC.h): start server TCP connection class |
| 00:41.16 | ChipX86 | wish I could talk to Jamie about things, see how she feels, but she's gone for a little bit and I won't have her contact info until she calls me |
| 00:45.40 | ChipX86 | fyre needs an icon |
| 00:45.53 | purple_cow | uhhuh |
| 00:46.08 | ChipX86 | fyre doesn't get an icon made in fyre? |
| 00:46.35 | purple_cow | it really doesn't work with only 48x48 |
| 00:46.50 | ChipX86 | hmm true |
| 00:46.52 | purple_cow | i mean, it's doable, but it's boring |
| 00:50.32 | purple_cow | mmmmm |
| 00:51.01 | ChipX86 | which? |
| 00:51.06 | purple_cow | hitsuji no uta |
| 00:52.56 | ChipX86 | what's it about? |
| 00:53.21 | purple_cow | vampires, sorta |
| 00:53.26 | ChipX86 | ah, always good |
| 00:53.44 | ChipX86 | it's tense in here. |
| 00:55.19 | kergoth | yay home |
| 00:55.24 | kergoth | long boring ass day |
| 00:58.41 | scanline | hmm |
| 00:58.47 | scanline | navi's been running a little warm lately |
| 00:58.52 | scanline | good idea |
| 01:02.26 | gonkulator | don't fall in |
| 01:03.39 | purple_cow | hurray! |
| 01:03.52 | purple_cow | ChipX86: i highly recommend you snag this from navi :) |
| 01:03.55 | purple_cow | it's only 4 episodes long |
| 01:04.19 | ChipX86 | remind me when I get home and i'll grab it. New stuff is good |
| 01:09.52 | gonkulator | wow... I didn't realize that MacGyver imitated a priest *and* a monk |
| 01:12.46 | hardwire | la and 1/2 |
| 01:12.54 | hardwire | do you grok? |
| 01:13.49 | purple_cow | hyuk |
| 01:14.05 | purple_cow | so the US is giving $35M in aid in asia |
| 01:14.16 | purple_cow | we spend that much approximately every 4 hours in iraq =P |
| 01:14.35 | purple_cow | and that's roughly how much bush is spending on his inauguration ceremony |
| 01:15.12 | ChipX86 | gah, nothing but fights and stuff in this house tonight. |
| 01:15.24 | laodamas|Savanna | "reeducation" |
| 01:15.38 | purple_cow | obviously |
| 01:16.56 | gonkulator | heh, 'reimagine' is worse than a cuss word at the seminary |
| 01:17.38 | laodamas|Savanna | my right wing relitives see nothing wrong with the above situation :( |
| 01:18.39 | laodamas|Savanna | and fox had someone on that initally thought that the tsunami was a terrorist attack |
| 01:18.45 | purple_cow | hahahahaha |
| 01:18.55 | purple_cow | that's painful |
| 01:19.02 | laodamas|Savanna | mother nature is a terrorist |
| 01:19.06 | file | ooh IAX2 encryption added |
| 01:21.05 | purple_cow | my coffee sense is tingling |
| 01:22.47 | laodamas|Beaufrt | family stuff |
| 01:23.01 | gonkulator | gotcha |
| 01:24.12 | laodamas|Beaufrt | IRC needs to allow slightly longer nicks |
| 01:24.18 | ChipX86 | nope |
| 01:25.10 | laodamas|Beaufrt | what harm is one or two more characters? |
| 01:28.16 | purple_cow | ugh |
| 01:28.25 | purple_cow | adding some print statements causes segfaults in pthread stuff |
| 01:28.33 | file | purple_cow: that's rather odd |
| 01:28.38 | file | I've never had that happen... |
| 01:29.46 | file | hardwire: poke |
| 01:30.37 | file | hardwire: basic IAX2 encryption was added today |
| 01:30.58 | file | so you can encrypt IAX2 packets, like voice packets... call setup packets... etc |
| 01:31.05 | purple_cow | which means that it's not my fault! |
| 01:31.17 | purple_cow | unfortunately, it's not my fault, so it's going to be much more difficult to track down and fix :( |
| 01:35.31 | hardwire | file: tls? |
| 01:35.54 | gonkulator | dang it... this computer is fried... |
| 01:36.40 | gonkulator | purple_cow: I won't be needing that NIC |
| 01:38.19 | scanline | I imagine I did a pretty good job of violating its warantee... |
| 01:39.19 | gonkulator | you cad |
| 01:39.34 | purple_cow | hrm |
| 01:39.36 | gonkulator | :-D |
| 01:40.17 | purple_cow | apparently there's a 280% chance of precipitation in alamosa on friday... |
| 01:40.43 | file | alamosa you say? I guess I won't be going there |
| 01:40.45 | file | hardwire: what |
| 01:41.29 | hardwire | file: I was just thinking.. most things support transport layer security anyways |
| 01:41.33 | hardwire | kinda pointless if you have that set up |
| 01:41.42 | file | ah |
| 01:41.46 | file | people wanted it, so they got it |
| 01:43.43 | hardwire | well good job :) |
| 01:44.37 | scanline | yaknow, it'd be awful nice if we could get a graph of our whole apartment's power usage |
| 01:44.55 | file | scanline: I somehow think you'll figure out a way |
| 01:45.17 | hardwire | and for less than a buck per appliance. |
| 01:47.12 | scanline | well, you could probably get a decent graph per-circuit just by measuring voltage across all the circuit breakers |
| 01:47.20 | scanline | they're probably in about the right resistance range |
| 01:47.48 | scanline | each circuit's sensor could be powered by that circuit and optoisolated from everything else |
| 01:48.40 | scanline | hmm, actually |
| 01:48.44 | scanline | could take the clamp-on approach |
| 01:48.57 | scanline | just wind small coils around the hot wire for each circuit |
| 01:49.16 | scanline | that'd be awfully tricky to calibrate though |
| 01:51.16 | gonkulator | hmm... the monitor is dead... possibly not the computer |
| 01:54.52 | gonkulator | yay, computers alive |
| 01:54.58 | gonkulator | the monitor is shot :( |
| 01:55.15 | file | I need to setup an extension on the staff pbx for my new cell... bleh |
| 01:57.42 | hardwire | heh |
| 01:57.47 | hardwire | I are hungered |
| 01:58.05 | file | gonkulator: sounds great |
| 01:58.38 | purple_cow | gonkulator: that's not something to be proud of |
| 01:59.23 | gonkulator | purple_cow: one is going to be a firewall for a friend of mine |
| 01:59.59 | scanline | gonkulator: you'd really be better off with a linksys or netgear firewall box |
| 02:00.15 | scanline | easier to admin, and much easier on the power bill |
| 02:00.22 | file | even I agree with scanline |
| 02:00.22 | gonkulator | yeah |
| 02:00.23 | purple_cow | mmmyep |
| 02:00.28 | gonkulator | and less likely to have a hardware failure |
| 02:00.39 | scanline | yes |
| 02:00.44 | file | although this linksys has betrayed me lately |
| 02:00.46 | gonkulator | due to being less-old |
| 02:00.49 | purple_cow | with new gadgets like the wrt54g and nslu2, there's no reason to use old hardware for small things anymore |
| 02:00.50 | file | I can't change any settings without it crashing everything |
| 02:01.41 | gonkulator | purple_cow: do you know of a cheap device that does the firewall stuff but for dialup? |
| 02:02.12 | scanline | gonkulator: linksys is one of those companies with a lot of divisions that do a lot of different things and vary in quality |
| 02:02.26 | gonkulator | neither have I, but others do |
| 02:02.37 | file | I remember a device like that gonkulator... it ran Linux |
| 02:02.42 | scanline | gonkulator: they used to make some really crappy network cards and switches, but I've heard their recent ones are good. Their router-type products are quite nice though |
| 02:02.45 | file | I forget it though, I can ask the person though |
| 02:02.57 | scanline | especially the nslu2 :) |
| 02:03.20 | file | Linksys has some excellent hardware now, like my VoIP adapter |
| 02:04.07 | file | I like my WRT54GS too when it's in a good mood |
| 02:04.38 | gonkulator | all nice things, but the Apple base station is the only thing I know of that has a modem |
| 02:06.11 | purple_cow | gonkulator: if it's dialup, why do they need a dedicated firewall? |
| 02:06.29 | purple_cow | i'm guessing that anyone still using dialup only has one machine, and software firewalls work fine |
| 02:06.32 | scanline | hmm, I should let the vacuum cool off a bit |
| 02:06.49 | gonkulator | two boxes, one connection |
| 02:07.00 | gonkulator | oh well |
| 02:07.40 | scanline | I'm sure they make internet gateway appliances with modems |
| 02:07.50 | scanline | I just haven't heard of any since I haven't touched dialup in ages |
| 02:07.58 | file | dialup... bleh |
| 02:09.33 | gonkulator | is everything ok with navi? |
| 02:09.59 | gonkulator | my transfers to and from are bogging |
| 02:10.12 | scanline | yikes |
| 02:10.15 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:10.33 | scanline | gonkulator: doubt that's causing your problem though :P |
| 02:10.38 | purple_cow | scanline: yeah, it's been like that for a bit |
| 02:10.39 | file | scanline: oh I found an app for Linux that uses SMART to check the status of a drive, and you can use it to predict when a drive is going to fail |
| 02:10.42 | scanline | purple_cow: ah |
| 02:10.52 | purple_cow | i repaired it and then sdc dropped out again |
| 02:10.57 | purple_cow | and sdd is misbehaving too |
| 02:10.58 | file | you might be able to figure out some logic to predict when the drives will fail :) |
| 02:11.00 | scanline | file: hm. doesn't hdparm have an option for that? I forget |
| 02:11.05 | purple_cow | so i'm guessing a bumped cable :P |
| 02:11.09 | scanline | purple_cow: ah |
| 02:11.12 | file | scanline: it's some small app... rather cool really |
| 02:11.50 | scanline | yeah |
| 02:12.03 | scanline | hehe |
| 02:12.04 | scanline | micah@yoshi /navi $ navi-backup pending |
| 02:12.04 | scanline | M 2004-12-19 ./backups/web.tar.gz |
| 02:12.04 | scanline | ? ./backups/firmware/keyspan-usa19hs.bin |
| 02:12.04 | scanline | ? |
| 02:12.08 | file | http://freshmeat.net/projects/ide-smart/ |
| 02:12.11 | scanline | yay for having a copy of the firmware from the USA-19HS :) |
| 02:13.30 | scanline | amazingly likely, considering how I tend to just pull apart the serial adaptors to get at their TUSB3410 :P |
| 02:13.49 | scanline | ooh, new Delerium album |
| 02:13.57 | purple_cow | well, old delerium album |
| 02:13.58 | scanline | ooh, Matmos? |
| 02:14.04 | purple_cow | scanline: uhhuh |
| 02:14.09 | purple_cow | they're even weirder than i thought |
| 02:14.11 | purple_cow | but pretty cool |
| 02:14.12 | scanline | :) |
| 02:14.18 | scanline | hmm, and 3CS launch photos |
| 02:14.28 | scanline | yay for finding out about new stuff on navi with navi-backup |
| 02:15.15 | scanline | haha, more Iron Chef |
| 02:15.26 | file | scanline: you should write up a nifty page, "What's new on Navi today!" |
| 02:15.27 | file | ;) |
| 02:21.27 | gonkulator | oooh, this is the episode of MacGyver where there is a little MacGyver |
| 02:26.07 | scanline | yay, room is somewhat cleanish |
| 02:29.32 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6127 10evo/weather/ (e-cal-backend-weather.c e-weather-source-ccf.c): fix a small handful of off-by-n errors, where n?[1,5] |
| 02:29.41 | purple_cow | bad unicode! bad! |
| 02:30.27 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6128 10evo/weather/e-weather-source-ccf.c: remove all the debug output |
| 02:32.07 | scanline | what ate the unicode? |
| 02:33.07 | scanline | hmm, that's a question mark on CIA's web site too |
| 02:33.48 | scanline | and in 'svn log' |
| 02:35.27 | purple_cow | guess it was vim or svn locally |
| 02:36.02 | scanline | I know svn can do unicode, but you might have to explicitly set the character set |
| 02:36.07 | scanline | might default to latin-1 |
| 02:52.17 | scanline | yikes |
| 02:52.22 | scanline | <g0th1k_n00dl3> [17:56] in a world where i am emperor, the economy will be based on blue LED's |
| 02:52.26 | purple_cow | uhhuh =P |
| 02:53.08 | scanline | yay 1-wire |
| 02:54.19 | scanline | it's just amazing how intelligent these things are, for being about the same size as a plain thermistor |
| 03:00.24 | *** join/#tacobeam jeffm2501 (~jeffm@Patlabor221.active.supporter.pdpc) |
| 03:05.00 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6129 10evo/calendar-weather/ChangeLog: add a CL |
| 03:06.08 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6130 10evo/calendar-weather/: hush! |
| 03:09.21 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6131 10evo/ (e-d-s.diff evo.diff evolution.diff gal.diff): add patches for everything |
| 03:09.21 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 03:09.28 | ChipX86 | Paco-Paco vs. jwz |
| 03:09.38 | purple_cow | where?! |
| 03:09.44 | scanline | ha |
| 03:09.55 | ChipX86 | 19:08:31 < jwz> if you're not going to provide any kind of |
| 03:09.55 | ChipX86 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:09.55 | ChipX86 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:09.56 | ChipX86 | 19:08:41 < Paco-Paco> that was an ignorant statement |
| 03:10.23 | ChipX86 | in #gaim, but if you all join at once, he'll suspect something is up |
| 03:10.32 | ChipX86 | it's not bad actually |
| 03:10.41 | purple_cow | jwz is my hero |
| 03:10.46 | ChipX86 | if it gets interesting, I'll post a log |
| 03:10.56 | gonkulator | oh |
| 03:11.00 | gonkulator | heh |
| 03:12.23 | scanline | hrm |
| 03:12.32 | scanline | I might end up needing a linker for this |
| 03:12.43 | kergoth | bleh |
| 03:26.05 | scanline | ahh |
| 03:26.24 | scanline | the '683 has an 8MHz oscillator, but by default has a divider enabled so it runs at 4MHz |
| 03:29.33 | purple_cow | yay, my tomatoes are done |
| 03:30.30 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6132 10therm/transmitter/ (5 files): |
| 03:30.30 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Start the refactoring that will make it possible to maintain multiple varieties |
| 03:30.30 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: of transmitters. This splits the protocol implementation out into a macro |
| 03:30.30 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: library, and starts moving processor-specific code into separate include files. |
| 03:34.04 | purple_cow | even after roasting these are pretty bland |
| 03:37.49 | gonkulator | purple_cow: why does MacGyver always hurt his hand when he punches guys out? |
| 03:38.24 | scanline | hmm |
| 03:38.29 | scanline | I haven't eaten anything today :P |
| 03:38.43 | purple_cow | gonkulator: because he's not a violent guy |
| 03:39.35 | purple_cow | pacifist heroes always hurt their hand when they punch someone. it's a natural law |
| 03:39.47 | gonkulator | hmm... alright |
| 03:42.16 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6133 10evo/ (Locations.xml.in weather/Locations.xml.in): move the locations file into the e-d-s backend |
| 03:50.16 | scanline | someday I'll write a PIC assembler in Python, and it will actually have a macro language that doesn't suck |
| 03:50.36 | scanline | actually, it'd be really cool to manipulate PIC machine code using python objects |
| 03:50.43 | purple_cow | heh |
| 03:50.43 | scanline | you could have a metaprogram for your firmware written in python |
| 03:51.04 | scanline | you could do some really sweet optimizations you can't do with a normal assembler, like intelligently deciding when memory bank switches are necessary |
| 03:54.31 | purple_cow | that could screw up hand-timed loops |
| 03:54.52 | scanline | nah, you get the python code to do that for you |
| 03:55.18 | scanline | you could have an object that transforms a particular code fragment by rearranging instructions or inserting no-ops so that it takes a certain amount of time to run |
| 03:55.27 | purple_cow | ooo |
| 03:55.36 | purple_cow | that'd make writing firmware an absolute joy :) |
| 03:55.45 | scanline | yeah |
| 03:55.46 | scanline | I'd love it |
| 03:56.06 | scanline | well, my biggest annoyance in writing firmware is memory management |
| 03:56.17 | scanline | even with a linker, the tools really aren't at all smart |
| 03:56.34 | scanline | I want to be able to place constraints on objects |
| 03:56.48 | scanline | like "Lookup table X must be in the first 256 bytes of page 0, 1, or 2" |
| 03:57.42 | scanline | you could use something like this to make some amazingly reusable code |
| 03:57.49 | scanline | like a module for generating software UARTs |
| 03:57.59 | scanline | any processor, any oscillator, etc |
| 03:58.15 | scanline | or generating I2C cores |
| 03:58.45 | scanline | I lost count of how many I2C master implementations I've had to write just because the processor handles I/O slightly differently or I'm retrieving data from a different type of memory |
| 03:58.54 | *** join/#tacobeam SecretMethod70 (SecretMeth@c-24-12-146-187.client.comcast.net) |
| 04:00.02 | scanline | maybe I'll try this someday |
| 04:00.05 | scanline | PIC machine code is really simple |
| 04:00.44 | scanline | hmm... |
| 04:01.06 | scanline | it'd be especially nice if it had enough hardware abstraction that the programs could be portable |
| 04:01.31 | scanline | generate very tightly timed binaries for a few PICs and for 8052 on the same source :) |
| 04:02.46 | kergoth | you are a sick, sick man |
| 04:02.55 | scanline | yes |
| 04:03.04 | purple_cow | and that's why we love him |
| 04:04.57 | scanline | I think the acid test of any timing constraint solver would be the cube64's comm code :P |
| 04:08.54 | scanline | huh.. why is this file using DOS line endings? |
| 04:09.26 | purple_cow | 'cuz all the cool kids use DOS |
| 04:12.36 | scanline | hmmm |
| 04:12.59 | scanline | you could do some neat compile-time timing with the right tools |
| 04:13.19 | scanline | like have a transform that inserts some provided instructions every X microseconds in a code fragment |
| 04:13.26 | scanline | before solving the original code fragment's timing constraints |
| 04:13.39 | scanline | it would be like static timeslicing |
| 04:14.19 | scanline | stuff like that would need one hell of a debugger :) |
| 04:17.03 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6134 10evo/weather/ (Makefile.am e-weather-source-ccf.c): install Locations.xml into the system and use that file rather than a hardcoded path |
| 04:17.26 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6135 10evo/weather/: quiet! |
| 04:25.18 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 04:27.07 | purple_cow | hmm...safeway... |
| 04:29.21 | scanline | whoa |
| 04:29.22 | scanline | it compiles |
| 04:30.37 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6136 10therm/transmitter/ (7 files): More refactoring. Pull out power management, I2C, and TC74 support into individual macro libraries. The .asm file now only includes the main loop and high-level packet assembly. |
| 04:31.31 | scanline | oh. that's why it compiled.. |
| 04:34.52 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6137 10therm/transmitter/ (power.inc therm-tx.asm): Whoops. Now the firmware actually works. |
| 05:01.20 | hardwire | I am so happy my laptop has two slots.. one can be dedicated to bt :) |
| 05:01.39 | hardwire | there just needs to be a bluetooth KM switch now :) |
| 05:01.45 | hardwire | which I suppose could be done entirely in software. |
| 05:01.55 | hardwire | minus having to repair all the time |
| 05:02.00 | hardwire | re-pair |
| 05:04.24 | scanline | grr |
| 05:04.31 | scanline | mysql has some kind of client-side cache it isn't clearing |
| 05:04.48 | scanline | when warzok inserts a new packet into the database, I can't see it until I close my mysql connection and reopen it |
| 05:04.54 | hardwire | oh yeh |
| 05:04.56 | hardwire | well IE hates CSS |
| 05:05.39 | hardwire | http://vlrc.tgsp.net/ <-- attempt at retheming plone to some degree |
| 05:05.42 | hardwire | it seemed to have worked, |
| 05:05.53 | hardwire | however I need to tablefy the header. |
| 05:08.22 | scanline | maybe this cache is in python's mysql module... |
| 05:08.27 | scanline | that would be a really silly place for it |
| 05:09.13 | scanline | heh.. yeah, I don't have the same problem from the mysql command line |
| 05:16.59 | scanline | ooh, ethereal understands mysql |
| 05:17.15 | scanline | ~ethereal++ |
| 05:18.16 | file[laptop] | that's creepy |
| 05:20.05 | purple_cow | kergoth: care to look on undernet for midnight oil? |
| 05:20.51 | scanline | ok, definitely not client side |
| 05:20.57 | scanline | the mysql server is sending me a packet with old data |
| 05:20.58 | scanline | bah! |
| 05:22.54 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6138 10evo/calendar-weather/ (Makefile.am calendar-weather.c): load Locations.xml from where e-d-s installs it |
| 05:24.04 | gonkulator | file[laptop]: what was the link to llama llama llama duck? |
| 05:24.23 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6139 10evo/ (e-d-s.diff evolution.diff): update patches |
| 05:24.55 | file[laptop] | http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/llama.php |
| 05:25.15 | gonkulator | thanks |
| 05:25.30 | file[laptop] | llama llama duck |
| 05:26.00 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6140 10evo/weather/e-cal-backend-weather.c: replace a useless printf with a FIXME |
| 05:26.30 | gonkulator | and listen now little child to the safety rail |
| 05:26.58 | file[laptop] | :) |
| 05:27.07 | ChipX86 | yay, Jamie just got into town in Utah and called |
| 05:27.57 | gonkulator | is it made of lemon juice doorknob ankle cold |
| 05:28.31 | purple_cow | hrm |
| 05:28.34 | file[laptop] | ChipX86: I should crash at your place for a night!! |
| 05:29.12 | file[laptop] | my eye is twitching again |
| 05:31.02 | gonkulator | I was once a treehouse I lived in a cake but I never saw the way the orange slayed the rake |
| 05:31.22 | file[laptop] | I was only three years dead but it told tale, and listen now little child to the safety rail |
| 05:31.29 | file[laptop] | a tale |
| 05:31.53 | purple_cow | time to rip jonny quest |
| 05:37.38 | scanline | oop |
| 05:37.47 | scanline | my ethereal logs are a bit cluttered when I'm streaming music from navi |
| 05:38.46 | purple_cow | you're not filtering it |
| 05:38.47 | purple_cow | ? |
| 05:38.54 | scanline | :) |
| 05:39.09 | scanline | was capturing over such a short time I didn't really need to filter it |
| 05:43.42 | scanline | aha!!! |
| 05:44.09 | scanline | something, either libmysqlclient or the MySQLdb python module, was setting autocommit=0 |
| 05:44.52 | scanline | hah |
| 05:44.54 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:44.54 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:46.25 | ChipX86 | my keyboard needs a 'make' button |
| 05:46.41 | gonkulator | hahaha |
| 05:47.24 | CIA-5 | voiceconduits: 03jcolp * 10vc_billing/call_progress.c: Fix memory leak with MySQL result |
| 05:49.26 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6141 10evo/weather/Locations.xml.in: apparently GSP is in SC. dunno where those 3 ND stations came from, but delete them for now, since I can't find a product containing them |
| 05:49.27 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 * r1461 10libgalago/ (ChangeLog libgalago/galago-dbus.h libgalago/galago-types.h): |
| 05:49.27 | CIA-5 | galago: Go back to not checking if DBUS_API_SUBJECT_TO_CHANGE is defined. The problem |
| 05:49.27 | CIA-5 | galago: was, I think, that I was defining it to 1, which causes gcc to complain if it's |
| 05:49.29 | CIA-5 | galago: redefined elsewhere. Just defining it without a value prevents issues. |
| 05:50.31 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6142 10therm/modules/ (therm_db.py watch-packets.py): |
| 05:50.31 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Fix an annoying bug caused by lack of autocommit in which ThermDatabase would |
| 05:50.31 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: miss new packets inserted while the database connection is open. Added a toy for |
| 05:50.31 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: watching packets arrive in real-time, intended for firmware debugging. |
| 05:51.16 | CIA-5 | voiceconduits: 03jcolp * 10vc_routing/ (call_progress.c route_inbound.c route_outbound.c): Ditto - no more silly memory leaks |
| 05:52.13 | CIA-5 | voiceconduits: 03jcolp * 10vc_auth/authorize.c: Small fix so a bug won't appear when we try to do a balance check under certain circumstances |
| 05:52.25 | file[laptop] | my my my, we've become rathe ractive |
| 05:52.27 | file[laptop] | er rather active |
| 05:52.51 | ChipX86 | s/active/antisocial?/ |
| 05:53.08 | file[laptop] | exactly |
| 05:54.05 | ChipX86 | galago needs an easteregg |
| 05:55.07 | file[laptop] | ChipX86: so put in an easteregg... your easteregg! |
| 05:55.09 | purple_cow | urg, i'm gonna need to rip this on a different machine |
| 05:55.20 | purple_cow | apparently my transcode has decided to flip everything upside down and invert colors |
| 05:58.09 | file[laptop] | gonkulator: you could always make rice |
| 05:59.25 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6143 10therm/transmitter/ (5 files): Build system cleanups, rename the current transmitter to therm-tc74, and move encoding for Protocol 0 into tx-protocol.inc |
| 05:59.50 | scanline | purple_cow: must be in BMP mode :P |
| 06:00.34 | gonkulator | file[laptop]: have to go to the store first... |
| 06:01.06 | file[laptop] | or use the power of your thoughts |
| 06:03.19 | ChipX86 | hrm, nope, still no good ideas for an easteregg |
| 06:06.55 | scanline | =) |
| 06:07.35 | purple_cow | there are still a couple bugs to be worked out - maybe rodrigo can help me with them more once he sees the code |
| 06:08.13 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6144 10therm/transmitter/ (i2c.inc power.inc therm-tc74.asm): Rename POWER_PIN -> TX_POWER_PIN. Define default GPIO and TRIS values in the main source file, to avoid dependencies between the power management and I2C modules. |
| 06:08.40 | scanline | ah. I think that I can finally add a second sensor to this and start implementing 1wire |
| 06:08.52 | scanline | should be able to use the same protocol for single 1wire sensors |
| 06:09.06 | ChipX86 | I just had an awesome useless idea |
| 06:09.08 | scanline | if I reall y want to do this generic 1wire to RF bridge, I think I'll need to make use of those protocol bits and define a new one :P |
| 06:09.13 | scanline | ChipX86: I love those :) |
| 06:09.16 | file[laptop] | ChipX86: exxxxxxxxxxxcellent |
| 06:10.16 | ChipX86 | a screensaver kinda like the matrix-inspired PS2 commercial they've been putting out that puts in screennames and their presence and then effects it out, and moves on to another, etc |
| 06:10.51 | merlin262 | hrm, i don't understand critics |
| 06:13.07 | purple_cow | fuck you, jørgen fogh |
| 06:13.28 | ChipX86 | the suse guy? |
| 06:13.48 | ChipX86 | oh. Who is he? |
| 06:13.58 | gonkulator | and why is it official? |
| 06:14.09 | ChipX86 | and why is it fogh? |
| 06:14.21 | merlin262 | whois this fogh? |
| 06:14.24 | purple_cow | he's the assclown who said he was working on the weather bounty |
| 06:14.35 | purple_cow | and put me off completely when i offered to collaborate |
| 06:14.40 | ChipX86 | hrm |
| 06:15.35 | purple_cow | it's official because tonight, i am going to send several thousand LOC to evolution-patches |
| 06:15.49 | merlin262 | cool purple_cow |
| 06:15.54 | ChipX86 | LOC? |
| 06:15.56 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 06:15.57 | ChipX86 | nm |
| 06:16.01 | ChipX86 | and yay! |
| 06:20.23 | purple_cow | it's not quite done, but i think it's complete enough that even if he's made some progress it'll discourage him |
| 06:20.29 | purple_cow | greedy little bastard |
| 06:20.34 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 06:21.45 | gonkulator | well done purple_cow |
| 06:22.30 | purple_cow | scanline: did you realize that there are several liters of root beer in our kitchen? |
| 06:22.39 | scanline | oh, I forgot about those |
| 06:22.41 | scanline | :) |
| 06:22.57 | scanline | we also have pistachios, though I'm not sure of what quality |
| 06:23.16 | purple_cow | mind if i crack one open? |
| 06:23.23 | scanline | go ahead |
| 06:23.36 | scanline | one of the perks of having a 3rd grade teacher for a mother is that she gets lots of goodies from her students :) |
| 06:23.51 | file[laptop] | apparently for activating online Telus is gonna give me an extra $25 bill credit, how nice |
| 06:27.27 | kergoth | hmm.. thursday already. yay for 3 day weeks |
| 06:29.23 | kergoth | hmm.. i havent finished everything my boss wanted done by monday yet |
| 06:29.24 | kergoth | heh |
| 06:29.58 | file[laptop] | this Monday |
| 06:29.59 | file[laptop] | ? |
| 06:30.42 | kergoth | nah, the one in a few days |
| 06:30.46 | kergoth | heh |
| 06:31.18 | scanline | mmm, root beer |
| 06:31.26 | scanline | makes me want to play Monkey Island |
| 06:31.51 | scanline | :) |
| 06:32.02 | purple_cow | (burp) |
| 06:32.27 | scanline | =( |
| 06:36.05 | kergoth | yay monkey island |
| 06:36.11 | kergoth | i need to buy those |
| 06:36.20 | kergoth | wonder if they have a collection or something |
| 06:36.39 | scanline | somewhere... |
| 06:36.45 | kergoth | hehe |
| 06:36.53 | scanline | it's so much easier to find an illegal copy online these days than to actually figure out where my original media went |
| 06:36.58 | kergoth | yep |
| 06:37.11 | kergoth | i did that instead of trying to find my leisure suit larry floppies a while back |
| 06:37.27 | merlin262 | hehe, I miss adventure games |
| 06:37.31 | scanline | me too |
| 06:37.34 | scanline | I need to play DOTT |
| 06:37.42 | kergoth | hehe, dott's great |
| 06:37.48 | kergoth | sam & max |
| 06:37.56 | kergoth | it sucks that they canceled sam & max 2 :( |
| 06:39.28 | kergoth | ~emulate max |
| 06:39.29 | jbot | Holy Cripes on Toast!!! |
| 06:40.25 | merlin262 | ~emulate sam |
| 06:41.07 | kergoth | aw |
| 06:41.15 | scanline | bleh |
| 06:41.24 | merlin262 | apparently that doesn't work |
| 06:41.55 | file[laptop] | I dislike sleep, it's so unproductive |
| 06:42.55 | kergoth | Sam: No, actually it was the commissioner with another idiotic and baffling assignment. |
| 06:42.58 | kergoth | Max: Does it involve wanton destruction? |
| 06:43.01 | kergoth | Sam: We can only hope. |
| 06:43.23 | gonkulator | argh... |
| 06:43.57 | kergoth | Sam: "Where should I put this thing so that it doesn't hurt anyone we know |
| 06:43.57 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:43.57 | kergoth | Max:"Out the window, Sam. There's nobody but strangers out there." |
| 06:43.59 | kergoth | hehe |
| 06:44.08 | scanline | :) |
| 06:44.33 | file[laptop] | sounds like something Bush would do |
| 06:44.37 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 06:44.41 | purple_cow | 1-3" snow tonight |
| 06:44.51 | file[laptop] | "We'll throw it at this country... we don't who they are so they won't fight back" |
| 06:44.51 | scanline | wow |
| 06:48.03 | file[laptop] | goodnight everyone |
| 06:48.42 | kergoth | jbot: emulate sam is <reply> I've never witnessed such mind-numbing horror -- well there was that |
| 06:48.43 | jbot | okay, kergoth |
| 06:48.46 | kergoth | gr |
| 06:49.13 | kergoth | jbot: no, emulate sam is <reply> I've never witnessed such mind-numbing horror -- well there was that geriatric, nude-volleyball tournament... |
| 06:49.14 | jbot | kergoth: okay |
| 06:49.52 | gonkulator | oh my... |
| 06:49.59 | gonkulator | ~smack kergoth for that |
| 06:50.02 | jbot | ACTION smacks kergoth for that upside the head. |
| 06:53.40 | kergoth | jbot: no, emulate sam is <reply> Holy jumping weasel critters on a hot cross bun! Look at that! || <reply> Holy jumping Jack Smelt in a rented hamster suit. We're on our way! || <reply> You crack me up, little buddy! || <reply> Hey! Look at that wierd animal! Maybe if we laugh at it, it will go away... || <reply> Now what kind of person would flame-bomb kittens? |
| 06:53.42 | jbot | kergoth: okay |
| 06:53.56 | kergoth | .. |
| 06:54.06 | kergoth | ~emulate sam |
| 06:54.07 | jbot | Hey! Look at that wierd animal! Maybe if we laugh at it, it will go away... |
| 06:54.48 | purple_cow | :) |
| 06:55.08 | rioter | doesnt work with monkeys |
| 06:55.55 | purple_cow | Mark my words. When you least expect it, your uppance will come! |
| 06:56.02 | ChipX86 | yay uppance! |
| 06:56.24 | kergoth | Max: "...and look, baby alligators." |
| 06:56.24 | kergoth | Sam: "Well, they're buoyant and logged shaped, but they're no alligators." |
| 06:56.24 | kergoth | Max: "I think I'm gonna be sick." |
| 06:56.36 | kergoth | okay i'm bored |
| 07:01.12 | ChipX86 | can't wait to play Katamari Damacy |
| 07:02.17 | ChipX86 | a tornado hit LA |
| 07:02.58 | gonkulator | woa |
| 07:03.05 | gonkulator | tornado... LA? |
| 07:03.08 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 07:03.41 | ChipX86 | and 100,000 dead in the tsunami thing, and a volcano erupted. Fun times |
| 07:05.49 | rioter | volcano erupted? |
| 07:06.01 | ChipX86 | in Russia |
| 07:06.10 | ChipX86 | http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20041228-070521-2844r.htm |
| 07:06.43 | rioter | thats probably due to the plates movment |
| 07:07.23 | ChipX86 | tornado in Wales too |
| 07:07.25 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 07:07.25 | purple_cow | http://directory.fsf.org/productivity/project/CIA.html |
| 07:07.30 | ChipX86 | not sure how common that is though |
| 07:07.30 | rioter | wha |
| 07:07.49 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: neat |
| 07:07.56 | scanline | yikes, that sure is a lot of copies of my email address |
| 07:07.57 | rioter | so this is the end of the world i take it :) |
| 07:08.01 | scanline | no wonder I get so much spam :P |
| 07:08.04 | ChipX86 | scanline: expect lots of spam |
| 07:08.09 | ChipX86 | rioter: apparently |
| 07:08.30 | scanline | hmm, I should probably make another release of CIA |
| 07:08.38 | scanline | the code I'm actually running is a good bit newer than 0.83 |
| 07:08.59 | scanline | I don't think anyone actually uses the releases though.. the people I've talked to that run their own CIA server all seem to use the latest svn |
| 07:09.27 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 07:09.28 | purple_cow | http://www.movement.uklinux.net/code/projectideas/ |
| 07:09.47 | scanline | hehe, I remember that |
| 07:13.42 | scanline | http://www.cliff.biffle.org/esoterica/beatnik.html |
| 07:13.42 | scanline | wow |
| 07:15.42 | purple_cow | heh |
| 07:15.49 | purple_cow | it never ceases to amaze me what people will do |
| 07:17.15 | scanline | it'd be interesting to write a compiler that could translate programs in a usable language into crazy languages like beatnik or brainfuck :P |
| 07:17.33 | scanline | then you'd have lots of crazy programs to impress people with |
| 07:18.11 | rioter | brainfuck is interesting to say the least |
| 07:18.29 | rioter | i like ook better :P |
| 07:19.18 | scanline | hehe |
| 07:19.27 | scanline | that was a sick project :P |
| 07:19.31 | rioter | scanline it would be a difficult task to convert some oo languages to it |
| 07:19.58 | scanline | rioter: most of the crazy languages I've seen are just obfuscated stack machines |
| 07:20.19 | rioter | well in brainfucks case yeah |
| 07:24.15 | purple_cow | mmm |
| 07:24.21 | purple_cow | that ID shoot-down on fleck's blog is really good |
| 07:31.57 | scanline | holy zombie jesus |
| 07:32.05 | scanline | I think this code is working the first time |
| 07:32.16 | scanline | looks like it =D |
| 07:32.28 | purple_cow | i don't know, but i can tell you where we're not! |
| 07:33.09 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6145 10therm/transmitter/ (Makefile ds18b20.inc onewire.inc tc74.inc therm-ds18b20.asm): Holy zombie jesus, I think this 1-wire and DS18B20 code worked on the first try |
| 07:41.46 | purple_cow | sent! =D |
| 07:42.29 | ChipX86 | hmmm strong winds here |
| 07:42.40 | ChipX86 | they say a bad storm is coming |
| 07:42.55 | rioter | its the end of the world as we know and i feel fine |
| 07:43.28 | scanline | wow |
| 07:43.33 | ChipX86 | winds here are usually at about 15 mph during storms. They're predicting 40. We're at 31 right now |
| 07:43.40 | purple_cow | scanline: now that your stuff works, up for some tetris attack? |
| 07:43.44 | scanline | if the temperature sensor is unplugged, this reads 4095.94 degrees C :) |
| 07:43.45 | purple_cow | ChipX86: pfft, 40mph |
| 07:43.45 | ChipX86 | kinda fun to watch the trees |
| 07:43.54 | scanline | purple_cow: nah, now that the code seems to be working I should finish the enclosure |
| 07:44.09 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: yeah, but it's unusual for this area |
| 07:44.46 | purple_cow | places in boulder can average 50-60 on windy days here |
| 07:45.07 | ChipX86 | keep in mind though that we had a *tornado in LA* |
| 07:45.50 | purple_cow | we're generally too close to the mountains for tornados |
| 07:46.04 | purple_cow | but we're sitting at the mouth of several canyons, so it can be windy |
| 07:46.09 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 07:46.27 | ChipX86 | LA doesn't get tornados. It's a silly concept. That's why they put it in The Day After Tomorrow |
| 07:46.48 | rioter | i thought la got tornados now and then |
| 07:47.46 | ChipX86 | I've never heard of one, but there probably were some |
| 07:48.35 | ChipX86 | ok, I stand corrected |
| 07:49.15 | purple_cow | ohh man |
| 07:49.39 | rioter | step away fromm the bong hippy |
| 07:49.53 | purple_cow | rioter: i've been hacking on this for *months*, and it's pretty much done |
| 07:50.07 | rioter | the evo bounty/ |
| 07:50.11 | purple_cow | uhhuh |
| 07:50.15 | rioter | oh cool |
| 07:56.34 | ChipX86 | do it! :) |
| 07:57.03 | purple_cow | heh |
| 07:57.15 | purple_cow | i love how -every- bounty bug is filled with comments saying "i'm almost done" |
| 07:57.24 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 07:57.33 | ChipX86 | I think the other presence guy gave up |
| 07:57.34 | rioter | well the one i was looking to tackle has im done ive uploaded it, but it hasnt been closed |
| 07:57.46 | rioter | emailed people and got no replies so i gave up |
| 07:57.51 | ChipX86 | I need to extend evo's eplugin stuff a bit |
| 07:58.19 | rioter | havent heard that word in a while |
| 07:58.28 | gonkulator | eplugin? |
| 07:58.37 | purple_cow | gonkulator: evolution's plugin system |
| 07:58.50 | gonkulator | yeah, I was asking rioter if that was the word he hadn't heard in a while |
| 07:58.57 | purple_cow | probably "snog" |
| 07:58.58 | rioter | no, snog hehe |
| 07:59.05 | purple_cow | eplugin is so beautiful :) |
| 07:59.46 | purple_cow | s/bic pen/bicycle key |
| 07:59.59 | ChipX86 | s/bicycle key/vat of jello/ |
| 08:00.05 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 08:00.48 | ChipX86 | 1 day left in 2004... wow.. |
| 08:01.22 | ChipX86 | I liked this year number. 2003, not so much. 2005 sounds too leafy green, but I don't object to it. 2006 is more yellow than I'd like, really |
| 08:02.24 | kergoth | heh, my how time flies. where'd this year go |
| 08:02.35 | purple_cow | 2006 will probably be a great year |
| 08:02.40 | rioter | its still not solved |
| 08:02.42 | gonkulator | yep, weird |
| 08:02.43 | purple_cow | seeing as it'll probably be my last semester in school |
| 08:02.46 | rioter | i think i will start hacking on it soon then |
| 08:04.09 | purple_cow | that's not really a router |
| 08:04.19 | purple_cow | i guess if it includes a phone patch, then you could call it a router |
| 08:04.19 | scanline | damnit, I'm still disturbed that this 1-wire thing worked the first time |
| 08:04.22 | scanline | where are the bugs??? |
| 08:04.32 | purple_cow | scanline: they're all in my e-d-s backend |
| 08:04.34 | scanline | I know they're just hiding, waiting for me |
| 08:04.36 | scanline | or that |
| 08:05.33 | scanline | :) |
| 08:05.39 | ChipX86 | uh oh |
| 08:05.42 | ChipX86 | another tsunami is predicted |
| 08:05.51 | ChipX86 | or on its way |
| 08:06.32 | rioter | cause by what? |
| 08:06.38 | ChipX86 | they said they don't know |
| 08:06.47 | rioter | and is it going to hit the east coast of australia |
| 08:06.55 | ChipX86 | they're saying India |
| 08:07.08 | rioter | :| |
| 08:08.14 | ChipX86 | these aerial shots of Indonesia are really sad |
| 08:08.25 | ChipX86 | looks like there was barely ever any civilization there |
| 08:09.06 | gonkulator | dang |
| 08:09.09 | rioter | yeah but 45,000 dead there thats kinda :| |
| 08:09.16 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 08:09.25 | scanline | purple_cow: maybe a little tetris attack while this epoxy dries |
| 08:09.33 | gonkulator | ChipX86: which news site are you watching? |
| 08:09.52 | ChipX86 | I'm reading google news, cnn.com, and watching CNN |
| 08:10.35 | gonkulator | hmmm... ok |
| 08:10.48 | purple_cow | scanline: how about 1 game, then i'll shower and you can finish the enclosure, then more? :) |
| 08:10.59 | scanline | ok |
| 08:11.12 | scanline | huh... I've been getting signal strenghts of zero for a while |
| 08:11.18 | scanline | must be a bug in the daemon |
| 08:11.18 | ChipX86 | scanline: what are you making |
| 08:11.18 | ChipX86 | ? |
| 08:11.25 | scanline | ChipX86: outdoor wireless temperature sensor |
| 08:11.29 | ChipX86 | ah neat |
| 08:11.37 | ChipX86 | oh yeah you mentioned that before |
| 08:11.49 | rioter | alrighty |
| 08:11.52 | scanline | ChipX86: picture about a foot of PVC pipe with a screw-off end on the top for replacing battery and firmware, and a little tube embedded in the bottom with the sensor |
| 08:11.53 | rioter | im off to a party |
| 08:11.54 | rioter | cya |
| 08:12.07 | ChipX86 | neat |
| 08:12.23 | gonkulator | later rioter |
| 08:12.25 | scanline | I should take pictures of this stuff before I glue it all together, if for no other reason so I remember how it works :) |
| 08:12.35 | scanline | won't be that accessable after I cement on the endcaps |
| 08:12.50 | ChipX86 | scanline: yep |
| 08:12.53 | ChipX86 | you should |
| 08:13.21 | purple_cow | ChipX86: have you seen the pictures of the altoid-based therms? :) |
| 08:13.25 | ChipX86 | nope |
| 08:13.35 | purple_cow | scanline: wowie, the living room is so clean! |
| 08:15.53 | ChipX86 | heh they're talking about reconstruction already |
| 08:17.12 | purple_cow | well, they have to |
| 08:27.38 | ChipX86 | warm blankets good. Very cold |
| 08:34.21 | scanline | ChipX86: http://navi.cx/images/hardware/navi/12-20-04/ |
| 08:34.28 | scanline | hmm, we need a picture of the final arrangement in the closet |
| 08:36.32 | ChipX86 | neat |
| 08:38.20 | gonkulator | hey cool |
| 09:12.28 | purple_cow | oof |
| 09:12.33 | purple_cow | scanline's stinking up the place |
| 09:13.05 | *** topic/#tacobeam by purple_cow -> If I had a hammer, I'd hammer in the morning |
| 09:13.46 | gonkulator | crap... only 3 dews left |
| 09:13.49 | gonkulator | gotta ration them |
| 09:50.52 | purple_cow | woooo |
| 09:51.15 | purple_cow | it's getting to the point where my adblock blacklist is complete enough that it's a rare event to see an ad on the web =D |
| 10:10.42 | purple_cow | this is depressing :P |
| 10:13.54 | gonkulator | oh, the most admired man thing? |
| 10:14.23 | gonkulator | man and woman scare me... |
| 10:14.25 | gonkulator | anyway |
| 10:14.57 | purple_cow | no, other things |
| 10:15.04 | purple_cow | apparently a full half of americans believe in ESP |
| 10:15.25 | gonkulator | hmm... how exactly ESP? |
| 10:15.53 | purple_cow | as in clairvoyance |
| 10:16.26 | purple_cow | and 68% support the death penalty |
| 10:16.28 | purple_cow | (ugh) |
| 10:16.34 | gonkulator | yeah, thats gross |
| 10:16.58 | purple_cow | where are your fucking "moral values", america? |
| 10:17.56 | gonkulator | its hard to have "moral values" in a pluralistic environment where the greatest Truth held is what is felt |
| 10:18.08 | gonkulator | and I fault a great many more people than just the evangellicals for that one |
| 10:19.05 | purple_cow | gonkulator: i'm just very bothered that 7 states decided (by overwhelming majorities) that it's wrong for two men to marry, but the majority feels it's OK to kill people |
| 10:19.30 | purple_cow | seems like we should be tackling the big problems (like killing people) first |
| 10:19.32 | gonkulator | yeah, there are more evangellical crazy people than there are the other sort |
| 10:38.42 | scanline | bleh, I really need this new meter |
| 10:38.54 | scanline | I know I'm really reading 5V, but this meter is giving me 4.19 |
| 10:40.06 | scanline | woo |
| 10:40.10 | scanline | this thing is electrically done |
| 10:40.22 | scanline | just need to shrink the tubing and apply epoxy and plastic cement liberally |
| 10:40.31 | scanline | and come up with some hanger widget for the lid |
| 10:41.04 | scanline | maybe load it with some firmware that doesn't send temperatures every 2 seconds... |
| 10:41.23 | purple_cow | folly! |
| 10:41.31 | scanline | goal! |
| 10:42.57 | purple_cow | ebullient! |
| 10:45.24 | scanline | antiquiescent! |
| 10:54.18 | purple_cow | integrator? |
| 10:54.26 | purple_cow | like...quadrature? |
| 10:55.11 | gonkulator | sure |
| 11:04.10 | gonkulator | huh, sorry |
| 11:05.45 | gonkulator | what can I do for you? |
| 11:06.40 | purple_cow | woo! |
| 11:06.44 | purple_cow | our freezer is 4083C! |
| 11:07.03 | gonkulator | that is not cool |
| 11:09.55 | gonkulator | ~pi |
| 11:09.56 | jbot | it has been said that pi is ... |
| 11:10.28 | gonkulator | ~hug scanline |
| 11:10.31 | jbot | ACTION hugs scanline |
| 11:19.09 | scanline | hi |
| 11:19.09 | purple_cow | wow |
| 11:19.13 | purple_cow | jimmac took 13.3GB of photos |
| 11:19.17 | scanline | yikes |
| 11:19.25 | scanline | hehe, our fridge is warming up |
| 11:19.28 | scanline | 4085C now |
| 11:19.38 | scanline | hopefully it will get to 4096 or so then go back to 0 |
| 11:20.10 | purple_cow | http://navi.cx/therm/tmp/2349a32dd6b7167b8aeda1cc51c33b374f24b67b.png |
| 11:20.22 | scanline | hahaha |
| 11:21.01 | scanline | "7399.1?F / 4092.8?C" |
| 11:21.24 | scanline | I think it's running a little outside of absolute maximum ratings ;) |
| 11:22.21 | scanline | ah, yep |
| 11:22.24 | scanline | wrapped around nicely |
| 11:24.10 | purple_cow | wow, jimmac's girlfriend is cute :P |
| 11:24.26 | purple_cow | at least, i'm assuming that's his girlfriend |
| 11:24.52 | scanline | heh, the prototype's readings are causing a lot of collisions |
| 11:25.17 | scanline | hmm, and reminding me about a bug in the daemon that I forgot about |
| 11:25.27 | purple_cow | man |
| 11:25.30 | purple_cow | i wish i had his talent |
| 11:25.31 | scanline | it won't sample the base station's temperature if packets are coming in from elsewhere too fast |
| 11:25.32 | purple_cow | http://primates.ximian.com/~jimmac/photos/index.php?galerie=nz01&snimek=66 |
| 11:25.35 | purple_cow | and his camera :) |
| 11:25.42 | scanline | :) |
| 11:27.14 | scanline | hrm |
| 11:27.16 | scanline | callonewire_read_byte; Read and accumulate the LSB |
| 11:27.16 | scanline | movftemp, w |
| 11:27.16 | scanline | addwftherm_total_low, f |
| 11:27.16 | scanline | btfscSTATUS, C |
| 11:27.16 | scanline | incftherm_total_high, f |
| 11:27.17 | scanline | callonewire_read_byte; Read and accumulate the MSB |
| 11:27.19 | scanline | movftemp, w |
| 11:27.21 | scanline | addwftherm_total_high, f |
| 11:27.27 | scanline | I think that's right |
| 11:27.29 | scanline | maybe the problem is in the daemon... |
| 11:29.45 | scanline | oh. duh. of course it's in the daemon |
| 11:29.49 | scanline | I forgot to do any sign extending at all |
| 11:30.46 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 11:30.57 | purple_cow | shall i put it back in the freezer? |
| 11:30.59 | scanline | hehe |
| 11:31.00 | scanline | ok |
| 11:39.24 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6146 10therm/daemon/ (main.c receiver.c therm-daemon.h): This should fix the problems with negative temperatures- the daemon wasn't doing any sign extending when unpacking the temperature's numerator. |
| 11:41.03 | scanline | time to open the freezer :) |
| 11:41.58 | scanline | ah, down to just barely above zero now |
| 11:42.05 | purple_cow | oh no! |
| 11:42.09 | purple_cow | the web interface kerbroke |
| 11:42.10 | scanline | whoops |
| 11:42.16 | scanline | yeah, it hit a race condition I knew about :( |
| 11:42.39 | scanline | oh, wait |
| 11:42.53 | scanline | this is just mod_python being boneheaded about me trying to upgrade |
| 11:44.10 | scanline | "root@warzok:~/therm#" gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside :) |
| 11:44.27 | scanline | what the hell... |
| 11:45.24 | scanline | ah |
| 11:46.46 | scanline | I guess reading /etc/hostname works, but it's kinda silly |
| 11:46.59 | purple_cow | `hostname` ? :) |
| 11:47.06 | scanline | ah, it's returned by os.uname() |
| 11:47.24 | scanline | mysql doesn't like me connecting with host="navi" from navi |
| 11:47.51 | purple_cow | wow |
| 11:47.53 | purple_cow | http://www.forum.nokia.com/main/0,,034-821,00.html |
| 11:48.08 | scanline | wow |
| 11:48.40 | scanline | yay for phone vendors realizing that java Isn't That Great |
| 11:51.22 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6147 10therm/modules/therm_db.py: Fix the default database settings such that they work on navi too, not just on other computers on our LAN. |
| 11:52.26 | scanline | ah. now it seems to be on its way to repopulating the RRDs finally |
| 11:55.24 | scanline | ahh |
| 11:55.31 | scanline | still lots of data missing on the navi graphs |
| 11:55.44 | scanline | I bet it ended up with two rrdtool processes or more running at some point |
| 11:55.48 | scanline | and rrdtool probably doesn't do any locking |
| 11:56.08 | scanline | yay, negative |
| 11:57.46 | scanline | hmm, now I get to make sure it rolls over smoothly as it warms up |
| 11:58.13 | gonkulator | w00t |
| 11:58.17 | gonkulator | spiderman2 is up |
| 11:58.32 | gonkulator | it was a 41 hour upload |
| 12:02.57 | scanline | oh no! |
| 12:03.07 | purple_cow | oh yes! |
| 12:08.37 | purple_cow | wow |
| 12:08.45 | purple_cow | it's amazing how fast portage syncs on navi-proxy |
| 12:52.53 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03mike * r6148 10winekb/ (. transform.xml): Add email tag |
| 12:53.02 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03mike * r6149 10winekb/ (. AddingStuff.xml index.xml): Add a page on adding stuff, update index |
| 12:53.10 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03mike * r6150 10winekb/ (. ConfigFile.xml NativeDCOM.xml): Rewrap at 80 columns for people with low screen resolutions |
| 12:53.24 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03mike * r6151 10winekb/ (6 files): Set MIME types |
| 13:05.09 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03mike * r6152 10winekb/ (. NativeDCOM.xml): Add a note about native DCOM spitting lots of junk to the screen as it installs |
| 13:49.43 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03mike * r6153 10winekb/ (. transform.xml): Add a nice opacity effect for <type> blocks |
| 13:49.53 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03mike * r6154 10winekb/ (. index.xml transform.xml): Add "Wine knowledge base" to each title |
| 13:50.01 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03mike * r6155 10winekb/ (. ConfigFile.xml): Note that DllRegisterServer may not exist |
| 13:50.07 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03mike * r6156 10winekb/ (. patches/ patches/full-screen.patch): Add an interesting patches page |
| 13:50.19 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03mike * r6157 10winekb/ (. index.xml patches/systray.patch): Add systray patch |
| 13:51.03 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03mike * r6158 10winekb/ (. InterestingPatches.xml index.xml): Actually add the patches page |
| 13:53.30 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03mike * r6159 10winekb/ (. index.xml): Link to channel FAQ from the KB index |
| 14:06.12 | scanline | wheeeeee, it's done |
| 14:06.55 | TD | what's done? a new gadget? :D |
| 14:08.59 | scanline | hmm, that might actually be a good place for it |
| 14:09.04 | scanline | TD: our outdoor temperature sensor |
| 14:10.03 | scanline | yay, and it's still within radio range |
| 14:11.22 | TD | yes please :) |
| 14:12.14 | scanline | now I just have to figure out how to get these off of purple_cow's camera... |
| 14:12.35 | scanline | and that plastic cement really smells awful... need ventilation! |
| 14:13.30 | file[laptop] | scanline: bad suffocation, bad! |
| 14:16.01 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r6160 10therm/transmitter/therm-ds18b20.asm: Give this a realistic device configuration rather than what I was using for testing. More specifically, this is the configuration used by the outdoor sensor, currently the only one using a DS18B20 chip. |
| 14:16.09 | scanline | yay wireless |
| 14:16.22 | scanline | we'd never bother putting a sensor way over there if we had to run a wire |
| 14:21.20 | TD | wow |
| 14:21.24 | TD | a wireless temperature sensor |
| 14:22.20 | TD | hmm doesn't look much like the assembly i'm used to |
| 14:22.23 | TD | i guess the names are function calls? |
| 14:23.10 | scanline | which names where then? |
| 14:23.59 | TD | init_low_power; Ask the sensor to start sampling |
| 14:24.00 | TD | ds18b20_start |
| 14:24.00 | TD | init_timer_sleep_1152msec; Take a short nap while it samples |
| 14:24.02 | TD | that sort of thing |
| 14:24.18 | scanline | ah, that's a macro invocation |
| 14:24.29 | TD | right |
| 14:24.51 | TD | ahhh, assembly. gotta love it :) |
| 14:24.58 | scanline | yeah |
| 14:25.02 | scanline | :) |
| 14:25.30 | TD | well, some was asm, some was C. the annoying thing was that at that point in ELF bootstrap you can't dynamically link to anything, so you can only do direct syscalls and stack allocation |
| 14:25.39 | scanline | hehe |
| 14:25.58 | scanline | there are C compilers for the PIC.. but in my experience C is a really lousy match to their architecture |
| 14:25.58 | TD | yay for custom strcmp implementations :D |
| 14:26.03 | scanline | :) |
| 14:26.04 | TD | how so? |
| 14:26.20 | scanline | separate address and data busses, strange memory addressing modes and paging |
| 14:26.25 | scanline | very little RAM |
| 14:26.31 | scanline | tiny non-addressable stack |
| 14:27.11 | scanline | but most importantly, with C you don't know exactly how long things take to execute, which is usually pretty important when you're programming a tiny microcontroller :) |
| 14:28.01 | *** join/#tacobeam orchid (orchid@orchid.user) |
| 14:28.10 | TD | ahh |
| 14:28.15 | TD | yeah |
| 14:28.35 | scanline | hm, this CF card reader is still quite linux-unfriendly |
| 14:28.36 | TD | the only time i used a pic was the PIC16C84 and using C for that would have been a joke. every opcode counted there was so little memory |
| 14:28.43 | scanline | yeah |
| 14:28.52 | scanline | most of the microcontrollers I use are similar in capabilities to the 'C84 |
| 14:28.54 | TD | i remember having to rewrite most of our program at the last minute (it was for a competition) because the new code we needed couldn't fit .. |
