| 00:02.33 | darth_mall | hehe... Terri Hatcher is in this ep of TNG |
| 00:08.14 | kergoth`bbl | road trip! bb tomorrow |
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| 01:12.27 | laodamas | http://images.somethingawful.com/mjolnir/images/cg09142004/jood.jpg |
| 01:17.35 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 01:19.22 | fiberchunks | http://www.goog.dk/flash/abc.php <<< warning -- boobies present, but pretty funny none the less |
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| 01:56.11 | file[laptop] | is anybody concious? |
| 01:58.28 | laodamas | laodamas: nope |
| 01:58.55 | file[laptop] | talking to yourself is bad mmmk |
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| 02:30.35 | DevGirl | hello, everybody! :) |
| 02:31.24 | file[laptop] | DevGirl!!! |
| 02:31.42 | orchid | hi DevGirl |
| 02:34.17 | DevGirl | file[ |
| 02:34.29 | DevGirl | long time no see, huh? :D |
| 02:34.35 | file | very much so |
| 02:34.37 | file | how is the little one? |
| 02:35.07 | DevGirl | she is huge and already talkinhg |
| 02:35.18 | laodamas | yummy yummy couscous |
| 02:35.20 | file | eek talking |
| 03:10.24 | merlin262 | bad file ! |
| 03:10.31 | merlin262 | scaring DevGirl away. :( |
| 03:11.50 | nullpuppy | i want an invader zim soundtrack |
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| 03:29.22 | purple_cow | yay tasty bread |
| 03:31.16 | nullpuppy | yay |
| 04:13.04 | darth_mall | shh |
| 04:13.26 | nullpuppy | hmm |
| 04:14.21 | nullpuppy | this be an interesting video for a remix of pet by apc (i think) |
| 04:16.35 | darth_mall | you mean you think the remix is by APC, or the original is by APC or it's an interesting video or it's a remix? |
| 04:17.03 | nullpuppy | i dont konw who did the remix |
| 04:17.08 | darth_mall | ah |
| 04:17.19 | nullpuppy | fscking around with winamp... |
| 04:17.48 | nullpuppy | labeled simply as 'Counting Bodies Like SHeep to the Rhythm of the War Drums' |
| 04:18.06 | nullpuppy | and.. video contents is basically anti-bush stuff |
| 04:27.08 | darth_mall | good line |
| 04:27.14 | darth_mall | one of my favorites |
| 04:32.26 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 04:33.02 | darth_mall | also the last line of The Outsider is damn cool |
| 04:33.52 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 04:44.18 | scanline | stupid fucking broken PLD proxy server |
| 04:46.13 | scanline | heh, my gchub-mini is really hot, since it was sitting right next to the fan exhaust on the laptop |
| 04:46.19 | scanline | and this stupid thing has broken power management, so it's always hot |
| 04:46.38 | file[laptop] | ooh is it so hot as to cause corrupted packets? |
| 04:46.44 | scanline | no |
| 04:46.50 | scanline | just enough to feel hot |
| 04:46.52 | file[laptop] | well that's good |
| 04:48.31 | scanline | this thing's such a great use for epoxy... |
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| 05:00.23 | merlin262 | yay me! |
| 05:00.43 | file[laptop] | merlin262: well, what is it? |
| 05:00.53 | merlin262 | conary |
| 05:01.37 | nullpuppy | what is that? |
| 05:03.08 | scanline | merlin262: is that pronounced like "connery" or "coner eee"? |
| 05:03.08 | merlin262 | http://wiki.specifixinc.com/ |
| 05:03.54 | SecretMethod70 | amazing |
| 05:04.04 | SecretMethod70 | here I was believing ChipX86|Gone that Gaim would never have a 1.0 release |
| 05:04.07 | scanline | wow, merlin262's working on a project he didn't start? |
| 05:04.07 | SecretMethod70 | and here we are :P |
| 05:09.01 | merlin262 | scanline, I didn't start sasteroids. :P |
| 05:09.05 | merlin262 | i just took it over |
| 05:09.13 | darth_mall | hostily! |
| 05:09.18 | merlin262 | hehehehhe |
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| 05:28.07 | SecretMethod70 | I seem to remember reading in here that someone here has an Audigy working under Linux, yes? |
| 05:28.52 | merlin262 | SecretMethod70, IRC, you just use the emu10k1 driver |
| 05:29.00 | merlin262 | now, the Audigy2 might be a different animal |
| 05:29.43 | SecretMethod70 | yeah, that's what I thought......I was hoping to find the person who mentioned it though cause I can't get the emu10k1 driver to work, or something.....either way, I'm not getting sound out of my sound card :| |
| 05:29.58 | SecretMethod70 | on startup, it says that emu10k1 failed to load..... |
| 05:30.01 | SecretMethod70 | however... |
| 05:30.07 | SecretMethod70 | bash-2.05b# lsmod emu10k1 |
| 05:30.07 | SecretMethod70 | Module Size Used by Tainted: P |
| 05:30.07 | SecretMethod70 | emu10k1 72748 1 |
| 05:30.07 | SecretMethod70 | ac97_codec 10036 0 [emu10k1] |
| 05:30.07 | SecretMethod70 | nvidia 1965856 6 |
| 05:30.16 | SecretMethod70 | (sorry for the mini-flood) |
| 05:30.24 | merlin262 | odd |
| 05:34.44 | SecretMethod70 | think it could have anything to do with me setting RC_PARALLEL_STARTUP="NO" to "YES" ? |
| 05:35.06 | SecretMethod70 | the reason it says it fails I mean |
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| 05:43.06 | SecretMethod70 | nope, it still failed - didn't think it was that but it was worth a shot |
| 05:49.44 | darth_mall | go BigBootOJustice |
| 05:51.49 | CIA-7 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/playing.cxx: fix scope of MOTD |
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| 05:56.09 | lurgy | darth_mall: /usr/portage/games-misc/sex |
| 05:58.43 | CIA-7 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/ChangeLog: add URLManager and MOTD to the changelog, still no cure for karma |
| 05:59.03 | nullpuppy | yay |
| 05:59.16 | nullpuppy | almost done moving all of zim to the desktop |
| 05:59.49 | lurgy | heh |
| 05:59.52 | lurgy | yay |
| 06:00.25 | nullpuppy | only about 4gigs :) then to burn a dvd or two :) |
| 06:01.11 | CIA-7 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10opencombat/bzwtransform/ (bzwTransform.cxx input.bzt): bztransform is for girls |
| 06:02.13 | BigBootOJustice | darth_mall: he just keeps commiting stupid things |
| 06:03.42 | lurgy | heh |
| 06:12.10 | nullpuppy | 155 minutes to move 3.9g of video over wireless via smb... not bad ;) |
| 06:13.45 | SecretMethod70 | hmm, now that there are some other active people in here.....anyone using an Audigy in Linux? |
| 06:14.57 | nullpuppy | nope, using sb lives |
| 06:15.29 | nullpuppy | i have used at least one audigy in linux though.. using 2.4 kernel with oss iirc though... |
| 06:15.42 | nullpuppy | should work with emu10k1, or... iirc there was some that used some other chipset |
| 06:16.13 | nullpuppy | whats lspci -n give you for the audigy? |
| 06:16.51 | SecretMethod70 | hmm.....looks like I have to emerge lspci :P.... |
| 06:17.39 | nullpuppy | hehe :) |
| 06:17.53 | nullpuppy | pci-tools or pci-utils :) |
| 06:18.00 | nullpuppy | can't remember exactly |
| 06:18.05 | SecretMethod70 | (I do have oss compiled into the 2.4 kernel though, and I thought I installed emu10k1 but it says it fails to load on boot, but when I do lsmod it looks like it's loaded - either way, I can't get sound out of my sound card, although I've only tried in KDE....I supposed I could emerge mp3123 and try in console |
| 06:18.44 | SecretMethod70 | neither, but I can use gentoo-portage.com to find it :P |
| 06:18.46 | nullpuppy | have you checked mixer settings? |
| 06:19.17 | SecretMethod70 | yeah, I set KMix to use emu10k1, and I still get sound out of my onboard sound instead of my Audigy |
| 06:19.40 | nullpuppy | hmm |
| 06:19.59 | nullpuppy | ok.. you could try disabling your onboard sound... |
| 06:20.01 | SecretMethod70 | (I have not installed ALSA yet since I want to make sure emu10k1 works before I deal with the hell that is installnig ALSA :P |
| 06:20.14 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 06:20.19 | nullpuppy | its nice and easy with 2.6 ;) |
| 06:20.51 | SecretMethod70 | yeah, but there are some problems with the latest nvidia drivers and 2.6 |
| 06:21.02 | nullpuppy | ah, could be |
| 06:22.18 | SecretMethod70 | flood warning.... |
| 06:22.20 | SecretMethod70 | bash-2.05b# lspci -n |
| 06:22.20 | SecretMethod70 | 0000:00:00.0 Class 0600: 1022:700e (rev 13) |
| 06:22.20 | SecretMethod70 | 0000:00:01.0 Class 0604: 1022:700f |
| 06:22.20 | SecretMethod70 | 0000:00:07.0 Class 0601: 1106:0686 (rev 40) |
| 06:22.20 | SecretMethod70 | 0000:00:07.1 Class 0101: 1106:0571 (rev 06) |
| 06:22.21 | SecretMethod70 | 0000:00:07.2 Class 0c03: 1106:3038 (rev 16) |
| 06:22.25 | SecretMethod70 | 0000:00:07.3 Class 0c03: 1106:3038 (rev 16) |
| 06:22.29 | SecretMethod70 | 0000:00:07.4 Class 0c05: 1106:3057 (rev 40) |
| 06:22.29 | SecretMethod70 | 0000:00:07.5 Class 0401: 1106:3058 (rev 50) |
| 06:22.32 | SecretMethod70 | 0000:00:0a.0 Class 0401: 1102:0004 (rev 03) |
| 06:22.33 | SecretMethod70 | 0000:00:0a.1 Class 0980: 1102:7003 (rev 03) |
| 06:22.35 | SecretMethod70 | 0000:00:0c.0 Class 0200: 1186:1002 (rev 12) |
| 06:22.37 | SecretMethod70 | 0000:01:05.0 Class 0300: 10de:0110 (rev b2) |
| 06:22.43 | SecretMethod70 | I have NO idea what that means |
| 06:22.45 | nullpuppy | ok... which of those is your audigy? :) |
| 06:22.56 | SecretMethod70 | um...how do I find out? |
| 06:23.04 | nullpuppy | lspci :) |
| 06:23.21 | SecretMethod70 | OH I see |
| 06:23.35 | SecretMethod70 | 0000:00:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 03) |
| 06:23.35 | SecretMethod70 | 0000:00:0a.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy MIDI/Game port (rev 03) |
| 06:23.36 | nullpuppy | :) |
| 06:23.55 | nullpuppy | ok, so 1102:0004 and 7003 /me looks it up |
| 06:23.55 | nullpuppy | :) |
| 06:24.37 | SecretMethod70 | do I NEED to disable my onboard sound? I haven't tried that yet |
| 06:24.59 | nullpuppy | shouldn't need to, but that might get this working initially... |
| 06:25.10 | nullpuppy | if it does work, then we know its not a driver issue :) |
| 06:25.31 | nullpuppy | then we can figure out how to get both working and such... |
| 06:25.48 | nullpuppy | and.. it appears you have an audigy2 ... |
| 06:25.54 | SecretMethod70 | hm, well, hey, if it works I don't really care if onboard works ;) |
| 06:25.59 | SecretMethod70 | um, no I don't |
| 06:26.00 | nullpuppy | ok :) |
| 06:26.01 | nullpuppy | hmm |
| 06:26.03 | nullpuppy | wierd |
| 06:26.13 | SecretMethod70 | I got an Audigy ES from NewEgg for like $45 |
| 06:26.21 | SecretMethod70 | I'd LIKE to have an Audigy 2 though :P |
| 06:26.25 | nullpuppy | 0x0004 Audigy 2 Audio Processor 0x1102 Creative Labs |
| 06:26.30 | SecretMethod70 | (I think it was ES - I'm pretty sure) |
| 06:27.38 | SecretMethod70 | http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=29-102-166&depa=0 |
| 06:27.40 | SecretMethod70 | that's what I have |
| 06:29.22 | nullpuppy | well.. it appears to be using the audigy2 audio processor |
| 06:29.28 | SecretMethod70 | weird |
| 06:29.37 | nullpuppy | the game port is reported to be an emu10k2 |
| 06:29.47 | SecretMethod70 | what's the game port? |
| 06:29.55 | SecretMethod70 | (I've ALWAYS used onboard sound before this, so I have no idea) |
| 06:30.17 | nullpuppy | game port/midi port, looks kinda like a serial port |
| 06:30.24 | SecretMethod70 | oh right, ok |
| 06:30.27 | nullpuppy | its either on the card, or on the add on filler card thingy |
| 06:30.37 | SecretMethod70 | yeah it's on the card |
| 06:30.43 | SecretMethod70 | I always think of it as the joystick port |
| 06:30.44 | darth_mall | lurgy: how did you come across that... |
| 06:30.49 | SecretMethod70 | didn't realize it was the same thing |
| 06:31.12 | nullpuppy | yeah, same thing :) |
| 06:31.26 | darth_mall | best command ever... sudo emerge sex |
| 06:31.47 | SecretMethod70 | lol |
| 06:35.16 | SecretMethod70 | ok, so, how do I disable my onboard sound? Maybe I'll be lucky and the error on startup is jsut bs and it'll just work (yeah right, but it's worth a try :) |
| 06:35.22 | nullpuppy | hmm |
| 06:36.16 | nullpuppy | to disable onboard sound ... press del or something during POST to get into your bios (of course)... look for intergrated peripherals or something like that... and disable onboard sound (or audio.. whatever its labeled as) :) |
| 06:36.30 | nullpuppy | and.. it looks like you might need alsa to get that card to work |
| 06:36.57 | SecretMethod70 | well.....that sucks |
| 06:36.59 | SecretMethod70 | :P |
| 06:37.06 | nullpuppy | looking in the kernel config.... oss emu10k1 driver doesn't list audigy ... dunno if that means it implies that its not supported or not though... |
| 06:37.20 | nullpuppy | hehe, alsa is so much better though :) |
| 06:37.33 | SecretMethod70 | no, when I emerged emu10k1 it told me to make sure emu10k1 wasn't checked in the kernel |
| 06:38.09 | nullpuppy | i was looking at the config in 2.6 too... |
| 06:38.12 | SecretMethod70 | I've only installed ALSA once before and that was a major PITA :/ |
| 06:38.14 | nullpuppy | so.. it might be different |
| 06:38.34 | nullpuppy | emerge alsa-lib alsa-drivers alsa-utils :) |
| 06:38.40 | SecretMethod70 | plus, I use KDE and, maybe it was just me, but it seems ALSA is more difficult to get working with KDE |
| 06:38.52 | nullpuppy | hmm.. maybe |
| 06:38.55 | nullpuppy | due to arts |
| 06:39.00 | SecretMethod70 | yeah |
| 06:40.00 | SecretMethod70 | ok, well, I guess I'll go load up the Gentoo ALSA how-to and hopefully that'll make it work or something :| |
| 06:40.47 | nullpuppy | k :) |
| 06:41.11 | nullpuppy | grr |
| 06:41.19 | nullpuppy | stupid composite engine |
| 06:41.24 | nullpuppy | thats what was causing the issues |
| 06:42.03 | SecretMethod70 | hmm, do you know if there's any way to check what USE flags a package was compiled with? |
| 06:42.22 | SecretMethod70 | I'm not sure if I put alsa in my USE variables before or after I compiled KDE - I'm pretty sure it was before but I'm not positive |
| 06:42.33 | nullpuppy | cat /var/db/pkg/package-name/USE iirc |
| 06:42.45 | SecretMethod70 | cool thanks |
| 06:43.41 | SecretMethod70 | k cool alsa was in there when I compiled KDE :) |
| 06:44.01 | nullpuppy | gah, wtf |
| 06:44.08 | nullpuppy | gnome doesnt start from gdm... |
| 06:44.08 | nullpuppy | hrm |
| 06:44.12 | scanline | SecretMethod70: if you have OSS emulation on, alsa is pretty much transparent |
| 06:44.23 | scanline | SecretMethod70: alsa-happy apps get extra alsa features, but other apps still work |
| 06:44.36 | SecretMethod70 | hmm, ok, well I guess we'll find out :P |
| 06:44.42 | SecretMethod70 | OSS emulation is set in the kernel right? |
| 06:44.48 | SecretMethod70 | that's the OSS thing I set in the Sound menu? |
| 06:44.49 | scanline | yes |
| 06:44.51 | scanline | no |
| 06:44.51 | SecretMethod70 | ok |
| 06:44.53 | SecretMethod70 | or not |
| 06:44.54 | scanline | it's in the alsa menu |
| 06:44.55 | SecretMethod70 | heh |
| 06:44.59 | scanline | OSS emulation |
| 06:44.59 | SecretMethod70 | I'm using 2.4 |
| 06:45.05 | scanline | erm |
| 06:45.07 | scanline | silly person |
| 06:45.08 | scanline | get 2.6 |
| 06:45.10 | SecretMethod70 | heh |
| 06:45.17 | SecretMethod70 | the latest nvidia drivers have problems with 3.6 |
| 06:45.21 | scanline | no they don't |
| 06:45.22 | SecretMethod70 | 2.6 |
| 06:45.43 | SecretMethod70 | hmm, that's what I had read on the Gentoo forums, and my roommate had troubles with it :/ |
| 06:45.52 | SecretMethod70 | or, I could try it and if it doesn't work I can always go back |
| 06:45.54 | scanline | gentoo forums are almost as silly as 2.4 |
| 06:45.55 | scanline | just try it |
| 06:45.58 | SecretMethod70 | lol ok |
| 06:46.03 | nullpuppy | gah, i'm all confused now |
| 06:46.07 | SecretMethod70 | so, I should do that before anything else |
| 06:46.11 | scanline | yeah |
| 06:46.20 | SecretMethod70 | and then, maybe emu10k1 will work anyway :) |
| 06:46.24 | scanline | alsa is easier in 2.6 because it's part of the official kernel tree, and it's the default rather than OSS |
| 06:46.34 | SecretMethod70 | I see, ok |
| 06:46.40 | scanline | and 2.6 is just in general better |
| 06:47.06 | SecretMethod70 | yeah I know, I WANT to, but 2.4 is still the Gentoo default and add on the problems I thought re: nvidia and I decided to stick to 2.4 |
| 06:47.22 | SecretMethod70 | I wonder why Gentoo doesn't default to 2.6 yet, it has been out for awhile |
| 06:47.54 | scanline | uhhuh |
| 06:48.13 | scanline | just try 2.6 |
| 06:48.44 | nullpuppy | yeah.. ChipX86|Gone has finally gone to 2.6 so.. no reason not to now... :) |
| 06:49.29 | scanline | and I'm sick and tired of having to support crappy 2.4 kernels with lousy input and USB subsystems! |
| 06:49.37 | scanline | must convince the world to upgrade! |
| 06:49.38 | nullpuppy | haha |
| 06:49.53 | scanline | hotplug on 2.4 is reason enough to ditch it |
| 06:50.07 | scanline | or the broken-ass way it handles USB interrupt packets |
| 06:50.22 | nullpuppy | what the fsck.... ARG! |
| 06:51.00 | nullpuppy | ok... i think its time for this install to be wiped... |
| 06:51.21 | nullpuppy | its gone through the change from xfree to xorg and from my geforce2mx to radeon 9600xt |
| 06:51.27 | nullpuppy | and its all fubar now |
| 06:56.31 | lurgy | darth_mall: ran across that lookin' through games-misc |
| 07:20.12 | merlin262 | hehe, for some reason 2.6.9 locks up my system |
| 07:21.09 | merlin262 | 2.6.8 is great tho |
| 08:12.46 | darth_mall | silly lurgy |
| 08:19.37 | rioter | that game? |
| 08:22.09 | darth_mall | mmhmm |
| 08:22.18 | darth_mall | rioter: running gentoo? |
| 08:22.38 | rioter | nope |
| 08:22.41 | darth_mall | oh |
| 08:23.08 | darth_mall | there's this package... games-misc/sex |
| 08:23.29 | darth_mall | kind of a fortune like program about sex |
| 08:24.09 | rioter | heh |
| 08:34.12 | purple_cow | wow |
| 08:34.15 | purple_cow | this is unbelievable |
| 08:43.02 | darth_mall | good lord |
| 08:49.11 | purple_cow | that was too damn cool |
| 08:54.07 | scanline | >:) |
| 08:54.17 | purple_cow | yay CTS shirt :) |
| 09:02.42 | darth_mall | boo |
| 09:02.46 | darth_mall | oob |
| 09:03.03 | purple_cow | err... |
| 09:03.11 | scanline | :) |
| 09:04.15 | scanline | hmmmmmm |
| 09:04.21 | scanline | I just ran this all through ksymoops... |
| 09:04.34 | scanline | and it looks like my input event handler got called after the module was unloaded |
| 09:04.42 | scanline | but it shoudl have already been unregistered from the input subsystem |
| 09:04.58 | scanline | and I've never seen this on other kernels, including other versions of 2.4, despite a lot of load/unload testing |
| 09:09.23 | darth_mall | borp |
| 09:11.18 | purple_cow | i'll borp you |
| 09:11.22 | purple_cow | err, that sounded dirty |
| 09:11.22 | purple_cow | :P |
| 09:11.24 | darth_mall | no thanks |
| 09:12.47 | purple_cow | bleh |
| 09:12.55 | purple_cow | another "yay humanity" moment |
| 09:17.17 | darth_mall | cuz otherwise he won't be around |
| 09:17.25 | darth_mall | ooooh sex |
| 09:17.45 | scanline | guh |
| 09:17.47 | scanline | bad: scheduling while atomic! |
| 09:17.47 | scanline | Stack pointer is garbage, not printing trace |
| 09:17.58 | scanline | thank goodness that's not on navi |
| 09:47.50 | scanline | mmkay.. I think that was it, but I still need to test it more on 2.4 |
| 10:13.19 | scanline | heh, I love all these people that offer me hosting while complaining about CIA's current server, then never follow through on it |
| 10:13.52 | scanline | bedtime |
| 11:40.37 | CIA-7 | navi-misc: 03micah * r5359 10wasabi/devices/gchub/kernel/ (Makefile gchub.c): Add in some debugging, disabled by default, and fix a bug in which the input subsystem's LED bits got out of sync with ours. |
