| 00:05.56 | ChipX86|Work | is there a confirmation e-mail before you can register those domains? |
| 00:06.28 | darth_mall | yay for having working acpi |
| 00:07.39 | file[laptop] | darth_mall: wow |
| 00:08.40 | lurgy | oh my lord something is b0rked here |
| 00:10.22 | ChipX86|Work | ? |
| 00:10.31 | darth_mall | hrm... |
| 00:12.54 | file[laptop] | hardwire: poke |
| 00:13.08 | lurgy | yay something went reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally funny with X |
| 00:13.17 | ChipX86|Work | what happened? |
| 00:14.13 | ChipX86|Work | yay, i have my domains |
| 00:16.34 | hardwire | file[laptop]: hi |
| 00:17.00 | file[laptop] | hardwire: you might like a copy of the next app I'm writing |
| 00:17.17 | file[laptop] | the ability to kidnap in progress channels and send them to a new extension |
| 00:17.58 | darth_mall | well... shoot |
| 00:17.58 | lurgy | yay it got all better for some reason |
| 00:18.00 | darth_mall | now I find myself in a dilemma |
| 00:18.00 | lurgy | ChipX86|Gone: metacity kept crashing, and everything was really slow |
| 00:18.14 | ChipX86|Work | ick |
| 00:19.00 | hardwire | file: heh |
| 00:19.01 | kergoth | hmmmm |
| 00:19.59 | lurgy | yay for gnome-terminal having gotten scads faster |
| 00:20.02 | lurgy | darth_mall: ooh, dilemma |
| 00:20.08 | lurgy | darth_mall: what manner of dilemma |
| 00:20.21 | ChipX86|Work | whether to buy pears or apples? |
| 00:20.41 | lurgy | dilemmas are like pickles but less vinegary |
| 00:20.47 | ChipX86|Work | and without the pickles |
| 00:21.01 | lurgy | yep |
| 00:21.04 | lurgy | and without the pickles |
| 00:21.07 | lurgy | chip understands |
| 00:21.32 | ChipX86|Work | I am now the proud owner of freenapkins.info |
| 00:21.49 | lurgy | hehe |
| 00:21.50 | ChipX86|Work | if I had the time, it would be a holy site where people could go and find out just where in town they could get free napkins |
| 00:21.50 | lurgy | yay! |
| 00:22.01 | ChipX86|Work | if you guys want to do the leg work and take photos, I'll build it |
| 00:22.02 | lurgy | aw |
| 00:22.08 | lurgy | heh, right |
| 00:22.12 | lurgy | like i have that kind of time :P |
| 00:22.13 | kergoth | aw, i thought it was gonna be a spam site. sucker me into going there for free napkins, only to charge me for plastic forks. |
| 00:22.15 | ChipX86|Work | :) |
| 00:22.17 | kergoth | fuckers. |
| 00:22.20 | ChipX86|Work | kergoth: freespam.info |
| 00:22.37 | ChipX86|Work | freemarketting.info |
| 00:22.44 | ChipX86|Work | bestad.info |
| 00:22.50 | ChipX86|Work | costly.info |
| 00:22.51 | ChipX86|Work | galago.info |
| 00:23.28 | kergoth | yay monkey business |
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| 00:23.39 | ChipX86|Work | monkey business is the best kind |
| 00:24.22 | hardwire | indeed |
| 00:24.33 | kergoth | i need to come up with something to do tonight |
| 00:24.34 | lurgy | ooh, our esteemed vice president is telling us all that texas is in the west now |
| 00:24.42 | ChipX86|Work | it is |
| 00:24.44 | hardwire | kergoth: well.. I am gonna get a fxo card working |
| 00:24.45 | ChipX86|Work | it's the wild west |
| 00:24.49 | hardwire | brb.. I am being banged at |
| 00:24.51 | lurgy | hehe |
| 00:24.54 | ChipX86|Work | ..... |
| 00:25.02 | ChipX86|Work | hardwire: is this a good thing, or the bad kind? |
| 00:27.15 | ChipX86|Work | yay for breaking VMware |
| 00:29.38 | Samy | <dink>islamics make my heart race when isee them |
| 00:29.38 | Samy | <dink>its not my fault |
| 00:29.47 | Samy | <dink>yo im cool with islamics as long as they dont look like they're gonna blow me up |
| 00:29.47 | Samy | <Peko-afk>for your reference, the source bmp for the gay assed remix project is 175 |
| 00:29.52 | Samy | lol |
| 00:30.44 | Samy | <dink>sbahra why are you NOT mad at the people who gave islam a bad name???????? |
| 00:30.45 | Samy | ah shit |
| 00:30.50 | Samy | This is just hilarious |
| 00:33.30 | scanline | heh, CIA is up to 175 channels |
| 00:35.23 | zak | scanline: so! pizza you say |
| 00:35.47 | scanline | yep |
| 00:35.52 | scanline | I just bought parmesan cheese :) |
| 00:36.03 | scanline | hrm, I should shower... long day, and I'm a bit sweaty |
| 00:36.14 | zak | oo |
| 00:36.23 | zak | darth_mall: want to order pizza soon? |
| 00:37.00 | scanline | when was purple_cow coming back? |
| 00:37.11 | darth_mall | he just left before you got home |
| 00:38.05 | scanline | ah |
| 00:38.57 | __merlin__ | this class == boring |
| 00:39.41 | __merlin__ | !ping |
| 00:39.41 | guu | pong |
| 00:39.50 | __merlin__ | ~poke gonkulator |
| 00:39.52 | jbot | but then who will poke the pokers, __merlin__? |
| 00:40.01 | __merlin__ | bahhhhh |
| 00:40.08 | darth_mall | grrr |
| 00:40.18 | merlin{igen} | hey darth_mall |
| 00:40.53 | ChipX86|Work | I miss pizza |
| 00:41.29 | darth_mall | ChipX86|Work: you *are* pizza |
| 00:41.35 | ChipX86|Work | yay! |
| 00:41.47 | ChipX86|Work | pizza the hut |
| 00:42.04 | darth_mall | ugh... I'm getting really frustrated |
| 00:42.10 | ChipX86|Work | :( |
| 00:42.12 | merlin{igen} | darth_mall, what's the matter? |
| 00:43.18 | darth_mall | so I've got acpi support... but that somehow disables the brightness buttons |
| 00:43.26 | merlin{igen} | ewwwwww |
| 00:43.37 | darth_mall | plus, I'm hungry |
| 00:43.38 | kergoth | acpi bioses generally suck horribly |
| 00:43.51 | kergoth | poor linux doesnt stand a chance of dealing with it without manufacturer support |
| 00:43.54 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:44.08 | zak | scanline: if you haven't already, go get in the shower, we can order when you get out |
| 00:44.09 | ChipX86|Work | unless it truly believes |
| 00:45.20 | ChipX86|Work | holy crap |
| 00:45.24 | kergoth | ? |
| 00:45.25 | ChipX86|Work | this massive web of code I wrote *works* |
| 00:45.29 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 00:45.29 | kergoth | nifty |
| 00:45.30 | ChipX86|Work | it wasn't supposed to do that yet |
| 00:45.39 | kergoth | anyone have any spare productivity they can lend me? |
| 00:45.40 | kergoth | i'm all out |
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| 00:52.04 | darth_mall | bah... I give up for now |
| 00:52.08 | darth_mall | it doesn't suspend properly and I have no inclination just now to figure out how to implement the brightness changes |
| 00:52.48 | luqui | my pockets hurt |
| 00:53.01 | darth_mall | luqui: put some ice in them |
| 00:53.07 | luqui | :-) |
| 00:56.04 | darth_mall | fnerg |
| 01:04.44 | kergoth | yay |
| 01:06.22 | Samy | What programming language file[laptop]? |
| 01:06.42 | file[laptop] | this is in C |
| 01:06.57 | Samy | I take it most of the Asterisk stuff your working on is in C, no? |
| 01:07.04 | file[laptop] | I need to add a check to see if the context and extension exists... but besides that, this works nicely |
| 01:07.09 | lurgy | lala |
| 01:07.11 | lurgy | ooh, it's luqui |
| 01:07.13 | lurgy | or maybe it's not luqui |
| 01:07.24 | file[laptop] | Samy: C and Perl |
| 01:07.49 | darth_mall | hi lurgy |
| 01:07.59 | darth_mall | lurgy: are you interested in this pizza stuff? |
| 01:09.27 | lurgy | ooh pizza |
| 01:09.27 | lurgy | sure |
| 01:09.41 | lurgy | wow gtk+ 2.5.2 really doesn't like me |
| 01:10.03 | Samy | file[laptop]: Can I have a copy of this app_kidnap please? samy@kerneled.org |
| 01:10.26 | Samy | file[laptop]: Just curious as to how you are integrating this into asterisk (directly, module or hack, etc...). |
| 01:10.44 | file[laptop] | it's a module. |
| 01:10.59 | file[laptop] | everything is a module in asterisk :) ... well mostly |
| 01:13.03 | zak | scanline: are you out yet? |
| 01:14.16 | file[laptop] | Samy: sent it out your way |
| 01:15.24 | file[laptop] | hardwire: would you like a copy? |
| 01:25.02 | luqui | mwahaha |
| 01:25.05 | luqui | ha |
| 01:25.36 | file[laptop] | your nicknames are too similar |
| 01:25.45 | luqui | agreed |
| 01:25.50 | luqui | lurgy ought to change mine |
| 01:25.55 | luqui | er, other way around |
| 01:26.00 | luqui | er, half way around |
| 01:27.23 | ToyKeeper | 'k |
| 01:27.50 | ToyKeeper | Just came to mind with the comment about similar nicks. :) |
| 01:28.15 | ChipX86|Work | yay for showing a massive diff with my new code and being told, "I'm very impressed." |
| 01:28.29 | darth_mall | ToyKeeper: proxies make too much sense |
| 01:28.34 | kergoth | ChipX86|Work: nice. |
| 01:28.38 | ToyKeeper | Oh yeah. I forgot. |
| 01:32.30 | cheers|FNM | yay!! gaming weekend! :) |
| 01:32.33 | ChipX86|Work | yay :D |
| 01:32.41 | ChipX86|Work | this weekend is going to rock :D |
| 01:33.04 | cheers|FNM | yup :) |
| 01:33.05 | darth_mall | yay crash! |
| 01:33.13 | darth_mall | yay for useful backtraces =P |
| 01:33.17 | darth_mall | dammit all to hell |
| 01:33.41 | kergoth | heh |
| 01:33.59 | kergoth | i need to get some plans for this weekend, or i'm going to be awfully bored |
| 01:34.12 | kergoth | especially with my hard drive from the box at home out of commission |
| 01:34.43 | zak | pizza! |
| 01:34.45 | ChipX86|Work | :( |
| 01:34.48 | ChipX86|Work | you can visit |
| 01:37.12 | ChipX86|Work | welcome home! |
| 01:37.21 | ChipX86|Work | how was work dear? |
| 01:38.32 | cheers|FNM | man, i wanna hear that! |
| 01:39.17 | ChipX86|Work | cheers|FNM: welcome home! how was work dear? |
| 01:40.59 | kergoth | argh |
| 01:41.01 | kergoth | damn glibc |
| 01:41.14 | kergoth | i really, really, really fucking hate buildsystems that GENERATE files in the INSTALL step |
| 01:41.42 | cheers|FNM | it was wonderful! ;) |
| 01:42.45 | cheers|FNM | actually it's been good... fell asleep to Baby Loony Toons this morning, got a lot of coding done last night... sent my resume to DC... |
| 01:42.59 | ChipX86|Work | Direct Current or Washington DC? |
| 01:43.04 | cheers|FNM | washington |
| 01:43.14 | ChipX86|Work | are you going to be president? |
| 01:43.21 | cheers|FNM | right after Arnie! ;) |
| 01:43.24 | ChipX86|Work | :D |
| 01:43.25 | kergoth | ooh, cheers for president! |
| 01:43.26 | ChipX86|Work | wait.. |
| 01:43.28 | kergoth | i'll vote for you |
| 01:43.31 | ChipX86|Work | me too! |
| 01:43.33 | cheers|FNM | lol |
| 01:43.47 | kergoth | you've gotta be better than those other idiots |
| 01:44.35 | cheers|FNM | hehe |
| 01:44.40 | cheers|FNM | and with that, I'm gonna go play Magic :) |
| 01:44.42 | cheers|FNM | bye all |
| 01:44.45 | purple_cow | which means... |
| 01:44.47 | ChipX86|Work | have fun |
| 01:44.47 | kergoth | have fun |
| 01:44.51 | purple_cow | zak: pokepokepokepokepokepokepokepoke |
| 01:45.17 | ChipX86|Work | hurray I broke it all! |
| 01:45.35 | file[laptop] | food? excellent idea |
| 01:46.00 | darth_mall | arg |
| 01:46.09 | ChipX86|Work | ooh, by the time I get home, I'll have full episodes of stargate ready |
| 01:52.08 | kergoth | you know.. i'm kinda glad my box at home is down |
| 01:52.14 | kergoth | it'll get me off the damn pc for one weekend at least |
| 01:52.33 | merlin{igen} | kergoth, what happened to your home boxen? |
| 01:52.33 | ChipX86|Work | man.. some people are just dumb |
| 01:52.52 | file[laptop] | hardrive went explodey |
| 01:53.36 | file[laptop] | ChipX86|Work: indeed |
| 01:53.42 | ChipX86|Work | heh, Jula's always all perky when she talks to me. It's funny |
| 01:54.35 | merlin{igen} | It's funny, I've got the Comp Grafix teacher on a massive sidetrack |
| 01:54.36 | merlin{igen} | hehe |
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| 02:11.32 | ChipX86|Work | mmmm it all works so well |
| 02:11.50 | ChipX86|Work | not bad for one day, considering I didnt' know a single piece of any of the code I've touched today |
| 02:16.07 | CIA-9 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10worldtest/openCombatTerainTest/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 02:16.07 | CIA-9 | opencombat: split up polyworld into multiple files, it's geting big, break for reader, drawing, and the fantri stuff |
| 02:16.07 | CIA-9 | opencombat: get structures read for arbitary walls and multi texture |
| 02:17.47 | ChipX86|Work | does anybody have code to make rasterwand display signwaves? |
| 02:19.55 | purple_cow | signwaves? :) |
| 02:20.03 | ChipX86|Work | err.. |
| 02:20.04 | ChipX86|Work | *sigh* long day |
| 02:22.22 | CIA-9 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10worldtest/nivie/Math/inc/mathUtils.h: prep new portal logic code |
| 02:22.32 | CIA-9 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10worldtest/openCombatTerainTest/polyWorld.cpp: prep new portal logic code |
| 02:28.10 | CIA-9 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10worldtest/todo.txt: reorder todo with cleanup code |
| 02:32.11 | merlin{igen} | yay class is over! |
| 02:32.12 | merlin{igen} | bbiab |
| 02:32.48 | file[laptop] | everyone departs... |
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| 03:10.36 | ChipX86 | yay, back from work |
| 03:10.42 | ChipX86 | stargate time |
| 03:17.24 | ChipX86 | nice. Two new people interested in our spec: John Palmieri from Red Hat and John Trowbridge from Ximian. Johns like our spec. |
| 03:19.41 | ChipX86 | bbl |
| 03:37.14 | purple_cow | heh, john trowbridge |
| 03:45.47 | darth_mall | larvelyboooblembor |
| 03:47.25 | darth_mall | I blame ChipX86 |
| 03:47.29 | darth_mall | it's entirely his fault |
| 03:47.30 | darth_mall | or not |
| 03:47.33 | darth_mall | as the case may be |
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| 04:13.06 | darth_mall | \ |
| 04:13.17 | ChipX86 | back |
| 04:14.11 | darth_mall | yay |
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| 04:15.47 | darth_mall | hi lurgy_ |
| 04:16.02 | lurgy_ | "don't worry my darlinge i shall do it ever so softly" |
| 04:16.37 | *** join/#tacobeam lurgy_ (~lurgy@navi.cs.colorado.edu) |
| 04:16.40 | darth_mall | yay |
| 04:16.42 | file | I forget to sync for a few days and portage goes crazy with activity |
| 04:16.42 | darth_mall | oh |
| 04:16.58 | merlin262 | yay reboot! |
| 04:16.59 | merlin262 | brb |
| 04:18.13 | ChipX86 | so.. |
| 04:18.19 | ChipX86 | they put my broken status rewrite into gaim cvs |
| 04:18.23 | ChipX86 | and gaim is now going 1.0 |
| 04:18.27 | darth_mall | yay |
| 04:18.30 | darth_mall | 1.0! |
| 04:18.33 | darth_mall | that must mean it's goo! |
| 04:18.36 | lurgy | yay |
| 04:18.37 | darth_mall | erm... good |
| 04:18.46 | lurgy | maybe my formatting bar will stop being grayed out :) |
| 04:19.25 | darth_mall | stooooooooooooooooop |
| 04:20.41 | darth_mall | hi lu |
| 04:20.54 | lurgy | clooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 04:20.54 | lurgy | like people |
| 04:20.54 | lurgy | right? |
| 04:20.54 | lurgy | i don't say so |
| 04:21.24 | lurgy | yay lag |
| 04:21.40 | lurgy | you didn't tell me about that part |
| 04:22.17 | lurgy | yes that's the right expression |
| 04:24.18 | lurgy | J |
| 04:24.24 | darth_mall | J |
| 04:24.34 | lurgy | if i were my father id you have otrd |
| 04:26.17 | darth_mall | yay lurgy |
| 04:26.23 | lurgy | claude! |
| 04:26.26 | darth_mall | maurice! |
| 04:26.45 | claude | yep |
| 04:26.47 | claude | i'm claude |
| 04:26.53 | maurice | and I'm maurice |
| 04:27.05 | maurice | we're like one claude and one maurice in a pod |
| 04:28.12 | claude | yep |
| 04:28.19 | claude | it's like a french composers' club |
| 04:28.54 | lurgy | dear uncle charles, don't worry about a thing |
| 04:29.07 | darth_mall | I've been arrested, buy me a pony |
| 04:30.07 | lurgy | and we're hooking up LEDs to the output, w00.. |
| 04:30.29 | lurgy | poof! |
| 04:30.49 | lurgy | <darth_mall> I so sleepy... |
| 04:30.57 | darth_mall | whaaaaa |
| 04:31.03 | lurgy | either that or nvidia's glx doesn't like gcc 3.4.1 |
| 04:31.14 | lurgy | oh no it's Gidwen! |
| 04:31.23 | lurgy | and darth_mall |
| 04:31.29 | lurgy | hmm |
| 04:31.38 | lurgy | and darth_mall |
| 04:31.48 | lurgy | heh, yeah |
| 04:31.59 | lurgy | ooh grabs |
| 04:32.10 | lurgy | oh no it's Gidwen! |
| 04:32.14 | darth_mall | lol |
| 04:33.20 | lurgy | dear uncle charles, don't worry about a thing |
| 04:34.23 | lurgy | OH THAT'S TOO BAD |
| 04:35.27 | lurgy | i just sort of follow my instincts, you know |
| 04:36.21 | lurgy | good bye sir charles |
| 04:49.18 | lurgy | WE'RE JUST USING A LIST STORE |
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| 05:00.33 | lurgy | bye probe |
| 05:01.42 | darth_mall | lurgy: you killed him! |
| 05:01.55 | lurgy | luqui is a banjo |
| 05:01.59 | darth_mall | that happens |
| 05:22.00 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03evan * r5188 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/preferences_plugins_page.c: |
| 05:22.00 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: plugins should be loading and unloading correctly, but we need to keep |
| 05:22.00 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: a seperate list of known plugins rather than just the list of loaded |
| 05:22.00 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: plugins |
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| 05:24.06 | luqui | who's the banjo now? |
| 05:24.12 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 05:24.18 | darth_mall | foggy mountain breakdown is such a great song |
| 05:24.21 | darth_mall | wish I still had a copy |
| 05:25.55 | luqui | who here has played "enigma" |
| 05:26.11 | luqui | it's a good game |
| 05:26.15 | darth_mall | no! |
| 05:26.18 | luqui | puzzley |
| 05:26.32 | darth_mall | uhnuuuhn |
| 05:26.36 | luqui | yeah |
| 05:26.49 | darth_mall | oh, ok |
| 05:26.55 | luqui | no! |
| 05:27.12 | luqui | eh, less work than being a perl parser |
| 05:27.16 | darth_mall | ewww |
| 05:27.41 | luqui | actually, I think I'd kill myself before I became a perl parser |
| 05:27.49 | luqui | which I guess is why I'm writing one |
| 05:27.51 | luqui | oh dear god |
| 05:27.56 | darth_mall | oh no! |
| 05:28.12 | CIA-9 | galago: 03chipx86 * r1216 10libnotify/docs/ (ChangeLog notification-spec.xml): |
| 05:28.12 | CIA-9 | galago: - Changed the app_icon parameter of Notify to take a byte array, string, or NIL, so that it's the same as loading a single frame of a set of images. |
| 05:28.12 | CIA-9 | galago: - Renamed "Icons and Sounds" to just "Icons." |
| 05:28.12 | CIA-9 | galago: - Changed the wording about the fallback in case the notification server can't do actions. |
| 05:28.17 | darth_mall | yay galago! |
| 05:28.31 | ChipX86 | perl 7 is going to be XML-based! |
| 05:28.36 | darth_mall | yay! |
| 05:28.36 | luqui | uh huh |
| 05:28.43 | darth_mall | xml is good for anything |
| 05:28.48 | ChipX86 | especially programming |
| 05:28.51 | darth_mall | yup |
| 05:28.52 | ChipX86 | as demonstrated by XAML |
| 05:28.52 | rioter | nice comic darth_mall |
| 05:28.58 | luqui | <foreach var="i" list="@array"> ... </foreach> |
| 05:29.11 | darth_mall | luqui: I had a job over the summer where I did exactly that |
| 05:29.16 | ChipX86 | XSLT managed to pull it off rather well actually |
| 05:29.17 | luqui | I'm sorry |
| 05:29.18 | darth_mall | there was seriously a foreach tag |
| 05:29.23 | darth_mall | I kid you not |
| 05:29.25 | darth_mall | rioter: =D |
| 05:29.31 | lurgy | hehe |
| 05:29.33 | darth_mall | ChipX86: I'm gonna have XML raise my kids |
| 05:29.47 | luqui | darth_mall, are you into Java too? |
| 05:29.59 | darth_mall | nope |
| 05:29.59 | luqui | you can't like XML without liking his wife, Java |
| 05:29.59 | ChipX86 | darth_mall: I encoded my DNA in XML |
| 05:30.04 | darth_mall | ChipX86: good thinking |
| 05:30.09 | ChipX86 | I call it, XMLDNA.xml |
| 05:30.12 | lurgy | ChipX86 is made of xml |
| 05:30.12 | darth_mall | luqui: that's not ture |
| 05:30.21 | darth_mall | xml is a good tool, if rather overused ;) |
| 05:30.29 | darth_mall | lies! |
| 05:30.34 | ChipX86 | xml is rather good |
| 05:30.43 | luqui | I'm using XML for my job at the moment |
| 05:30.46 | ChipX86 | but people wanted to use it for everything because they didn't have to write their own parsers for things |
| 05:30.51 | ChipX86 | or so they thought |
| 05:30.52 | luqui | and we're using it as *gasp* a markup language |
| 05:30.55 | luqui | not a serialization language |
| 05:31.25 | luqui | XML is a terrible, terribly serialization language |
| 05:31.31 | darth_mall | s/ed/es/ |
| 05:31.37 | luqui | s/ly/le/ |
| 05:31.41 | luqui | :-) |
| 05:31.43 | ChipX86 | I still think file systems should be XML-based |
| 05:31.47 | ChipX86 | then we could have stylesheets |
| 05:31.56 | lurgy | ChipX86: don't forget html too |
| 05:31.59 | ChipX86 | directory listings just apply a stylesheet to that node in the XML document |
| 05:32.04 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 05:32.05 | lurgy | gotta have blink tags in your filesystems |
| 05:32.07 | ChipX86 | if you want to change directory colors, change the styleshet! |
| 05:32.08 | luqui | lurgy, don't forget javascript! |
| 05:32.17 | lurgy | and cascading stylesheets |
| 05:32.20 | rioter | o0o xslt filesystems |
| 05:32.23 | lurgy | so you get pretty filesystems |
| 05:32.33 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 05:32.33 | darth_mall | good thinking |
| 05:32.42 | ChipX86 | you know what's sad? |
| 05:32.44 | luqui | Put it into 2.7 |
| 05:32.49 | ChipX86 | I'm tempted to write one, just because I can |
| 05:32.56 | darth_mall | ChipX86: do it! |
| 05:32.57 | lurgy | luqui: you could make a reiser4 plugin to do that |
| 05:32.58 | luqui | ChipX86, you can? |
| 05:33.00 | darth_mall | and then I will laugh |
| 05:33.04 | ChipX86 | I can try |
| 05:33.09 | ChipX86 | although I have no time anymore |
| 05:33.16 | lurgy | ChipX86: do it w/reiser4, it will be quicker ;) |
| 05:33.20 | lurgy | if not posix compliant |
| 05:33.24 | ChipX86 | I don't trust reiser with my life |
| 05:33.37 | ChipX86 | speaking of which, there's a mosquito in here. brb, taking out my contacts. |
| 05:33.50 | luqui | PLAY ENIGMA |
| 05:33.52 | darth_mall | lol |
| 05:33.53 | luqui | punks |
| 05:34.00 | lurgy | ChipX86: that's okay, you just need to write a crazy filesystem ;) no need for trust |
| 05:34.09 | darth_mall | truuuuuust |
| 05:34.19 | hardwire | blah and 1/2 |
| 05:34.22 | luqui | trust is what makes the world go 'round |
| 05:34.25 | luqui | that and rotational inertia |
| 05:34.33 | darth_mall | hardwire: you win |
| 05:34.37 | lurgy | 3 cheers for rotational inertia |
| 05:34.38 | rioter | alright wireless keyboard am broke |
| 05:34.45 | darth_mall | rioter: =\ |
| 05:35.14 | rioter | on screen keyboard sucks |
| 05:35.34 | luqui | rioter, is your wireless keyboard broke, or are you asserting "wireless keyboard" and that you're broke? |
| 05:35.40 | luqui | because you bought one, presumably |
| 05:36.11 | rioter | both :) |
| 05:37.31 | ChipX86 | mmm. angstg. |
| 05:37.33 | ChipX86 | er, angst |
| 05:37.51 | darth_mall | angstg |
| 05:38.24 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 05:38.28 | purple_cow | in 2h we'll have plan 9 |
| 05:38.29 | ChipX86 | yay lucifer |
| 05:38.34 | ChipX86 | (the song) |
| 05:38.41 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: the OS? |
| 05:39.01 | purple_cow | the movie |
| 05:39.07 | ChipX86 | ah |
| 05:40.29 | ChipX86 | German feels like a language that you could be fluent in after just flipping through a quick german -> english reference |
| 05:40.33 | ChipX86 | Germany |
| 05:40.37 | ChipX86 | German |
| 05:40.44 | ChipX86 | you know what? I should just sleep. |
| 05:41.59 | file[laptop] | ChipX86: yes, you're becoming as incomprehensible as me |
| 05:42.25 | ChipX86 | huh, when did galeon decide to start breaking |
| 05:42.34 | purple_cow | "He has a wonderful dog, Barney, that likes to visit the Oval Office a lot. And he contributes to the president's ability to meet his obligations." |
| 05:43.51 | purple_cow | wow |
| 05:43.59 | purple_cow | my sister has the most unbelievable view from her dorm |
| 05:44.29 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 05:45.42 | ChipX86 | ooh new limewire is nice |
| 05:48.32 | luqui | agreed |
| 05:48.53 | ChipX86 | hmm looks like bed time |
| 05:48.58 | ChipX86 | got to be up in 6 hours |
| 05:49.35 | purple_cow | hmm, did everyone leave? |
| 05:49.53 | ChipX86 | define everyone |
| 05:50.07 | lurgy | purple_cow: yeah |
| 05:50.26 | ChipX86 | see everyone Monday/Tuesday |
| 05:52.19 | purple_cow | awww |
| 05:55.10 | darth_mall | everyone's all gone and stuff |
| 05:55.20 | luqui | I left |
| 05:55.49 | luqui | I just dropped $400 on a telekenetic keyboard |
| 05:55.54 | luqui | oh, and monitor |
| 05:56.02 | luqui | I'm off practicing the piano at the moment |
| 05:56.17 | file[laptop] | if you say so. |
| 05:56.33 | luqui | dah dah dah dah dah dah dah daaah dah dah dah dah dudah dudah dudadedadum.... dum dedededum |
| 05:56.36 | hardwire | indeed |
| 05:57.07 | lurgy | oh, you're playing *that* |
| 05:57.10 | lurgy | silly lurgy |
| 05:57.14 | lurgy | and silly luq |
| 05:57.17 | lurgy | ..ui |
| 05:57.23 | hardwire | ui |
| 05:57.25 | hardwire | uiuiui |
| 05:57.31 | hardwire | so happy |
| 05:57.33 | hardwire | I have a desk |
| 05:57.34 | hardwire | and a chair |
| 05:57.40 | hardwire | for a month I had carpet.. and a butt. |
| 05:57.40 | luqui | horay |
| 05:57.42 | luqui | s/o/oo |
| 05:57.58 | hardwire | time to set up the asterisk box for answering machine stuff |
| 05:58.05 | luqui | you traded your butt ofor a desk? |
| 05:58.26 | lurgy | luqui: a butt, *and* a carpet |
| 05:58.49 | luqui | I'm not sure that's a good deal |
| 05:59.25 | luqui | has lurgy taken math 3000? |
| 06:00.27 | lurgy | luqui: lurgy has never taken math * |
| 06:00.33 | luqui | really? |
| 06:00.34 | luqui | wow |
| 06:00.36 | lurgy | only appm |
| 06:00.50 | luqui | loser |
| 06:00.53 | luqui | appm is for practicals |
| 06:00.59 | lurgy | the horribles |
| 06:01.03 | luqui | (which I'm told is now an insult) |
| 06:01.21 | hardwire | my girlfriend isn't supportive of my voip phase |
| 06:01.33 | hardwire | she keeps wanting to use her standard phone |
| 06:01.39 | hardwire | and I keep telling her.. but this is neater. |
| 06:01.42 | hardwire | she doesn't believe me |
| 06:01.47 | luqui | dump her! |
| 06:01.58 | hardwire | she wasn't impressed that I called somebody using a wireless sip phone |
| 06:02.00 | lurgy | luqui understands |
| 06:02.15 | hardwire | she wasn't impressed that you could run an echotest on an asterisk server in a far away land and listen to yourself |
| 06:02.21 | lurgy | luqui: you're told that by theoreticals, i imagine ;) |
| 06:02.36 | lurgy | heh |
| 06:02.36 | hardwire | she wasn't supportive when I called the eho test from two phones and started making noise.. one phone in each ear listening to myself whoop and hollar |
| 06:02.39 | luqui | yeah, but they don't exist... |
| 06:02.44 | hardwire | then again.. that was pretty silly. |
| 06:02.49 | lurgy | heh |
| 06:02.50 | file[laptop] | hardwire: uh huh |
| 06:03.00 | hardwire | file: ever heard yourself in stereo? its cool! |
| 06:03.00 | file[laptop] | hardwire: mainoffice - NOT OFFICE! :p |
| 06:03.03 | luqui | hardwire, I've done that with my cell and land line |
| 06:03.05 | lurgy | hardwire: sounds like time to get out a death ray |
| 06:03.10 | hardwire | heh |
| 06:03.13 | luqui | I should try voip, I guess |
| 06:03.14 | luqui | nah |
| 06:03.17 | hardwire | nah |
| 06:03.34 | hardwire | file[laptop]: hehe.. naw I put all the phones on conference mode and was talking thru the entire house |
| 06:03.38 | hardwire | she didn't dig that |
| 06:03.41 | luqui | I hear myself in stereo all the time |
| 06:03.43 | hardwire | she is finally warming up today however |
| 06:03.46 | file[laptop] | creepy |
| 06:03.47 | luqui | what's difficult is hearing myself in mono |
| 06:03.51 | hardwire | she asked if she could intercom me from upstairs |
| 06:03.56 | hardwire | now she likes them. |
| 06:04.14 | luqui | and now you despise them |
| 06:04.22 | luqui | because you have to take out the trash instead of hacking |
| 06:04.24 | hardwire | its like the tables are turned |
| 06:04.28 | hardwire | but in this case.. its a big round table. |
| 06:04.31 | file[laptop] | hardwire: btw - asterisk does not support the ability for the snom to monitor phones |
| 06:04.34 | hardwire | so it doesn't matter. |
| 06:04.43 | hardwire | file[laptop]: monitor? |
| 06:04.48 | hardwire | howso? |
| 06:05.00 | file[laptop] | see if it's in use, ringing, etc |
| 06:05.12 | hardwire | lemme rephrase |
| 06:05.20 | hardwire | asterisk doesn not support the ability to monitor snom phones? |
| 06:05.31 | hardwire | or.. snom phones do not have the ability to monitor asterisk traffic. |
| 06:06.01 | luqui | all this voip talk is making me hungry |
| 06:06.01 | file[laptop] | it doesn't support the ability to subscribe to the phones, which gives you the ability to be notified when their status changes (ringing, etc) |
| 06:06.25 | hardwire | asterisk doesn't support the ability to subscribe to the snom phones.. right? |
| 06:06.29 | hardwire | not just it. |
| 06:06.42 | file[laptop] | here's how it works |
| 06:07.11 | file[laptop] | the snom phone sends a packet to asterisk subscribing to the phone it wishes to monitor (be notified if the status changes) |
| 06:07.21 | file[laptop] | asterisk does not support that subscription process |
| 06:07.47 | hardwire | file: I still don't get it |
| 06:07.54 | hardwire | why would the snom wish to monitor another snom? |
| 06:08.20 | rioter | something to do? |
| 06:08.23 | file[laptop] | that's one of the features of the snom... the ability to monitor other phones |
| 06:08.34 | hardwire | how does it report what its monitoring? |
| 06:08.39 | hardwire | I don't understand what it would do |
| 06:08.47 | hardwire | like light up the lines for monitoring an in use extension? |
| 06:08.59 | file[laptop] | yes |
| 06:09.02 | hardwire | ok |
| 06:09.07 | hardwire | it supports it now in asterisk. |
| 06:09.08 | hardwire | sorta |
| 06:09.10 | hardwire | not using the snom |
| 06:09.17 | hardwire | but asterisk can send LED changes now in a custom header. |
| 06:09.19 | file[laptop] | ... |
| 06:09.22 | hardwire | using the newest firmware |
| 06:09.44 | hardwire | I plan to use it to map the zaptel lines to the leds |
| 06:09.56 | file[laptop] | nevermind, you're not getting what I mean and it probably doesn't matter |
| 06:10.12 | hardwire | I just don't see where its documented that it can monitor another phone |
| 06:10.20 | hardwire | maybe a specific example would help me understand. |
| 06:10.27 | file[laptop] | it's in the manual |
| 06:10.47 | file[laptop] | loading it up now. |
| 06:11.20 | darth_mall | fnerg |
| 06:11.23 | file[laptop] | http://www.snom.com/download/man_user_snom200_en.pdf |
| 06:11.28 | file[laptop] | page 30 |
| 06:11.59 | hardwire | ok |
| 06:12.10 | hardwire | programable keys |
| 06:12.11 | hardwire | what about it |
| 06:13.29 | purple_cow | yay piglet |
| 06:13.49 | hardwire | file[laptop]: can you please point out where it says it monitors another phone? |
| 06:14.09 | file[laptop] | hardwire: sip url. |
| 06:14.16 | hardwire | what about it? |
| 06:14.21 | file[laptop] | for example, my phone is jcolp@192.168.2.4 |
| 06:14.36 | hardwire | yes |
| 06:14.42 | hardwire | ok.. so destination? |
| 06:15.18 | file[laptop] | nevermind... |
| 06:16.02 | hardwire | so.. this will show what state a remote sip url is in |
| 06:16.03 | hardwire | ringing |
| 06:16.04 | hardwire | busy |
| 06:16.10 | hardwire | blah. |
| 06:16.17 | hardwire | I get it.. It just doesn't seem to say it |
| 06:16.17 | file[laptop] | look at line |
| 06:16.22 | file[laptop] | specifically b |
| 06:16.50 | hardwire | I read it |
| 06:17.12 | file[laptop] | it's _exactly_ what I mean |
| 06:17.19 | hardwire | ok |
| 06:17.22 | hardwire | interesting |
| 06:17.24 | hardwire | I read a |
| 06:17.26 | hardwire | heh |
| 06:17.34 | hardwire | anyhoot.. I think I just figured out how to get intercomming working |
| 06:17.47 | hardwire | its a playoff of destination.. I think I know what to do. |
| 06:18.06 | hardwire | I need to map the intercom sip url to the intercom extension |
| 06:18.19 | hardwire | then when I dial the phone from that extension it should pick up |
| 06:18.24 | hardwire | well |
| 06:18.24 | hardwire | in a bit |
| 06:18.28 | file[laptop] | SO - if I had a snom I could modify chan_sip so that this stuff would work :) |
| 06:18.29 | hardwire | need to install debian all the way first |
| 06:18.40 | hardwire | file: well we migh thave extras or something |
| 06:18.53 | hardwire | or I might be able to send you one to get it working |
| 06:18.55 | hardwire | along with a wisip |
| 06:18.59 | hardwire | the wisip is.. useless |
| 06:19.05 | hardwire | its nice.. but it has no MWI |
| 06:19.10 | file[laptop] | hardwire: you could even take over an in progress call for example |
| 06:19.27 | hardwire | file[laptop]: why would you be so rude? |
| 06:19.38 | file[laptop] | because I can be. |
| 06:19.52 | file[laptop] | you just gave me an idea to wreak havoc |
| 06:20.58 | file[laptop] | I'm already getting ideas on how this could be done... |
| 06:21.17 | hardwire | HEH |
| 06:21.21 | hardwire | I did nothing of the sort |
| 06:21.27 | hardwire | anyfoop |
| 06:21.33 | hardwire | cmooon debian |
| 06:21.36 | hardwire | 333 is slow ;) |
| 06:21.41 | hardwire | but it has anough ram to choke a moose. |
| 06:22.01 | file[laptop] | hardwire: I'll pass along a patch to make messaging work once I tweak it some more |
| 06:22.17 | file[laptop] | essentially allows messages to be delivered locally, (and soon) to remote IPs |
| 06:22.51 | hardwire | hmm |
| 06:23.02 | hardwire | file[laptop]: what about something that allows for this |
| 06:23.10 | hardwire | basically picking up a line and getting dialtone |
| 06:23.17 | hardwire | no entering the number then hitting call |
| 06:23.21 | hardwire | none of that schmuck |
| 06:23.36 | hardwire | then you could put the mwi in the dialtone |
| 06:23.47 | file[laptop] | wellllllll you could, if your phone supported it... |
| 06:23.54 | hardwire | well |
| 06:23.56 | file[laptop] | if you could dial a number when the phone is picked up |
| 06:24.08 | file[laptop] | you could set that number to be DISA, which gives you an internal dialtone |
| 06:24.10 | hardwire | yes.. thats what the snom can do.. just gotta press a line first |
| 06:24.14 | file[laptop] | Dirct Inbound System Access |
| 06:24.24 | hardwire | neat. |
| 06:24.31 | hardwire | might try that later |
| 06:25.11 | hardwire | ugh |
| 06:25.16 | hardwire | my chicken tacos arent sitting well |
| 06:25.37 | file[laptop] | fyi, my phone does as you say (I pick it up and I get a dialtone) |
| 06:25.58 | hardwire | how why? |
| 06:26.01 | hardwire | does it generate dialtone? |
| 06:26.06 | hardwire | which phone? |
| 06:26.12 | file[laptop] | because that's the way it was designed |
| 06:26.15 | file[laptop] | yup |
| 06:26.20 | file[laptop] | ipDialog Siptone II |
| 06:26.28 | rioter | bah |
| 06:26.30 | rioter | german rip |
| 06:26.43 | purple_cow | i wish i had a tigger |
| 06:26.45 | file[laptop] | sounds just like a regular phone |
| 06:27.05 | file[laptop] | hardwire: now - you better try to get me a snom and wisip :p |
| 06:27.11 | file[laptop] | or I'll eat you |
| 06:27.55 | rioter | cant you just eat him anyway |
| 06:27.55 | file[laptop] | but he's an asterisk user |
| 06:27.56 | file[laptop] | I can't just eat an innocent asterisk user |
| 06:28.28 | rioter | i hate it when you hear a song on the radio and they dont say what it is |
| 06:28.30 | rioter | sure you can |
| 06:29.08 | scanline | bah, need to restart X to give it more font paths |
| 06:29.37 | hardwire | file[laptop]: hmm |
| 06:29.48 | hardwire | the snom phone didn't work like I wanted |
| 06:29.59 | hardwire | I set intercom to come/go as 503@192.168.1.100 |
| 06:30.04 | hardwire | the wisip |
| 06:30.20 | hardwire | I called the snom.. that p button didn't do squat |
| 06:30.43 | file[laptop] | I don't have a snom therefore I can't help :p |
| 06:30.52 | rioter | Butterfingers 4 Sep - 4 Sep 04 |
| 06:30.53 | rioter | huge tour |
| 06:31.04 | hardwire | file[laptop]: yeh I know |
| 06:31.09 | hardwire | I did set it to destination of the wisip |
| 06:31.16 | hardwire | it lit up saying it was registered. |
| 06:31.22 | file[laptop] | donations are always welcoe |
| 06:31.22 | hardwire | but thats it |
| 06:31.25 | file[laptop] | er welcome |
| 06:31.49 | hardwire | hehe |
| 06:31.49 | hardwire | this is going to be evil |
| 06:32.28 | purple_cow | YAY it's eeyore |
| 06:32.49 | scanline | turning to drugs to help you sleep will only lead to sleep |
| 06:33.01 | scanline | and sleeping is a gateway drug to being awake, being awake, being awake again |
| 06:33.16 | scanline | being awake is swimming around in a lake of the undead |
| 06:33.24 | scanline | and the undead are like a bunch of friends that demand constant attention |
| 06:33.35 | file[laptop] | oh no.... he's speaking again |
| 06:33.55 | file[laptop] | hardwire: I need to sleep but I'll talk to you later |
| 06:36.44 | hardwire | I need to sleep too |
| 06:36.50 | hardwire | but I don't puss out and do it! |
| 06:37.05 | file[laptop] | good for you. |
| 06:37.16 | hardwire | indeed |
| 06:37.34 | hardwire | expensive ass card. |
| 06:37.52 | file[laptop] | I have to admit the wisip is tiny and cute |
| 06:38.08 | purple_cow | eeyore is the coolest pooh character ever |
| 06:39.15 | file[laptop] | and would make a nice addition to my VoIP equipment for testing. |
| 06:39.47 | hardwire | anybody have a good moh sip url laying around? |
| 06:40.31 | file[laptop] | set one up. |
| 06:41.01 | file[laptop] | setup a default context in sip.conf, in the default context put an extension and have that extension just play musiconhold |
| 06:42.22 | lurgy | yay for yahoo chess |
| 06:51.10 | rioter | i want my tax return now so i can buy a new keyboard |
| 06:56.17 | hardwire | a telekenetic one? |
| 07:00.04 | rioter | that would be nice |
| 07:00.09 | rioter | but one that works would be nicer |
| 07:04.55 | hardwire | blah |
| 07:39.59 | rioter | i wish i could remeber high school physics |
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| 08:41.39 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03micah * r5189 10rasterwand/python/pacman.py: Hmm, how'd this get here? |
| 08:53.57 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03micah * r5190 10rasterwand/python/ (pacman.py rasterwand.py): Move the little animation base class into the rasterwand module |
| 09:22.20 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03micah * r5191 10rasterwand/toys/ (blocks/ bmod/): These are confusingly named and don't really add anything |
| 09:24.46 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03micah * r5192 10rasterwand/python/ (demo.py navi-therm.py): Rename demo.py to navi-therm.py |
| 10:00.23 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03micah * r5193 10rasterwand/toys/ ( Makefile particles.c): Add a little particle system demo. This was originally in python, but that was horribly slow and I was too lazy to use Numeric. Now it's in straightforward yet fast C |
| 10:16.03 | scanline | wow, slimspace must be really busy |
| 10:16.44 | slimspace|away|a | hehe |
| 10:16.51 | slimspace|away|a | comp is acting up. I'm really here. |
| 10:17.00 | scanline | liar! |
| 10:17.14 | slimspace | silly dircproxy |
| 10:19.58 | slimspace | mmm...sleep... |
| 10:34.44 | purple_cow | ugh, this is gonna take forever |
| 10:35.20 | purple_cow | almost halfway done :P |
| 10:36.54 | purple_cow | i s'pose it's good for levelling up, anyways |
| 10:45.45 | purple_cow | hah |
| 10:46.00 | purple_cow | right before i finished kicking squall's ass he says "no way, i can't lose" in a whiny voice |
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| 12:30.14 | CIA-9 | winehq: 03Mike Hearn <mike@navi.cx> * /: Create DLL stub files in c:\windows\system |
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| 12:56.52 | ChipX86 | I wonder if anybody is awake at this ungodly hour |
| 13:00.54 | ChipX86 | sorry :( |
| 13:00.56 | orchid | bright-eyed and bushy-tailed even |
| 13:01.00 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 13:04.42 | Samy | and it's a godly hour here :) |
| 13:06.31 | TD | heya |
| 13:06.33 | TD | i am awake |
| 13:06.39 | TD | feeling pretty tired all the same |
| 13:07.33 | ChipX86 | hey TD |
| 13:07.44 | ChipX86 | I'm going to be gone starting about 20 mins from now, give or take |
| 13:07.50 | ChipX86 | (6:07 here, ugh) |
| 13:08.06 | ChipX86 | I made some more updates on the spec. Minor cleanup stuff, really, and the stuff you recommended |
| 13:08.33 | TD | k |
| 13:08.37 | TD | yes, i saw the commits |
| 13:08.38 | ChipX86 | if you can keep Ccing things to my vmware address, I'd appreciate it :) I want to know what Jon Trowbridge has to say |
| 13:08.43 | TD | why are you up at 6? |
| 13:08.45 | ChipX86 | seems we're getting some interest from good levels |
| 13:08.46 | TD | yep will do |
| 13:09.00 | ChipX86 | my dad's being nice enough to drive here, pick me up, and bring me all the way back to Chico |
| 13:09.01 | TD | hmm |
| 13:09.03 | ChipX86 | and then on Monday, bring me back |
| 13:09.14 | ChipX86 | despite being 16 hours of drive time total for him |
| 13:09.18 | TD | wow |
| 13:09.24 | TD | you americans and your driving. |
| 13:09.26 | ChipX86 | he knows how badly I wanted to see friends and family |
| 13:09.35 | TD | my parents freak out if my train journey is 6 hours instead of 3 |
| 13:09.35 | Samy | :) |
| 13:09.37 | ChipX86 | I was going to take a 13 hour bus to go what would normally be a 4 hour drive |
| 13:09.49 | ChipX86 | pretend that was english |
| 13:09.56 | TD | hehe |
| 13:10.10 | TD | btw, i've written a shared libraries best-practices document. i'll write a patch for libnotify to bring it into line, if you like :) |
| 13:10.11 | ChipX86 | anyhow.. Red Hat and Ximian employees are looking at our spec, so I'd say yippy, we're noticed |
| 13:10.18 | TD | i guess i should publish it somewhere soon |
| 13:10.19 | ChipX86 | sure |
| 13:10.22 | ChipX86 | what practices? |
| 13:10.23 | TD | ok, that's good |
| 13:10.31 | TD | i'd like to get a feel for what KDE is going to do also |
| 13:10.37 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 13:10.39 | ChipX86 | talk to Gof |
| 13:10.47 | TD | stuff like how to write a stable library, the best way to build it, how to apply symbol verions etc |
| 13:11.01 | ChipX86 | Olivier Goffart |
| 13:11.01 | TD | most of its basic stuff - how to avoid breaking backwards compat, what major/minor versions are and so on |
| 13:11.01 | TD | some of it's not so obvious |
| 13:11.02 | ChipX86 | good :) |
| 13:11.07 | ChipX86 | if you finish it this weekend, e-mail it to me |
| 13:11.20 | TD | yep, will do. it's basically done. just need a section on using pkg-config |
| 13:11.43 | Samy | What is this for? |
| 13:11.54 | ChipX86 | Samy: world domination |
| 13:11.58 | ChipX86 | we're achieving it now, you see |
| 13:12.09 | Samy | ChipX86: GNUpdate 2? |
| 13:12.16 | ChipX86 | world domination doesn't mean you have to _manage_ the world. Just control what happens in it. |
| 13:12.25 | ChipX86 | desktop notifications spec |
| 13:12.34 | Samy | Oh. :) |
| 13:12.36 | ChipX86 | soon we shall control notifications, presence, and packaging |
| 13:12.47 | Samy | heh |
| 13:12.58 | ChipX86 | when people move and say something, it's because we allow them to do so! mwahaha |
| 13:13.07 | ChipX86 | or, I need sleep |
| 13:16.19 | TD | heh |
| 13:16.25 | TD | THE POWER! |
| 13:16.54 | TD | ChipX86: so when are you going to formally propose it? |
| 13:16.59 | TD | want to leave trow time to talk? |
| 13:17.02 | ChipX86 | yes |
| 13:17.08 | ChipX86 | I want to be back before I do |
| 13:17.10 | TD | we also need to hack on the ref impl some more i guess |
| 13:17.13 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 13:17.16 | TD | i think i'll check it out onto my laptop |
| 13:17.16 | ChipX86 | but we're almost there |
| 13:17.19 | ChipX86 | very very close |
| 13:18.09 | TD | yep. the ref impl doesn't implement the latest spec |
| 13:18.14 | TD | in particular it doesn't do images |
| 13:18.14 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 13:18.17 | TD | and of course, no fancy eye candy |
| 13:18.18 | ChipX86 | or app info |
| 13:18.21 | ChipX86 | or anything really |
| 13:18.29 | TD | when i upgrade to a fedora with X compositing i'll have a go at hacking that |
| 13:18.31 | TD | well, yeah |
| 13:18.34 | TD | it's pretty crude |
| 13:18.38 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 13:18.46 | ChipX86 | we can whip it into shape fast though |
| 13:18.52 | ChipX86 | and then I can code up a quick gaim plugin |
| 13:18.58 | TD | OTOH knowing that there are two proven hackers working on it will probably help adoption of the spec |
| 13:19.01 | TD | right |
| 13:19.03 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 13:19.14 | ChipX86 | and if John and Jon work on it.. |
| 13:19.17 | ChipX86 | and Eventuality is going to support it |
| 13:19.18 | TD | right |
| 13:19.23 | ChipX86 | oh wait |
| 13:19.27 | ChipX86 | were they the proven hackers, or us? :) |
| 13:19.30 | TD | well, eventuality is still non-existant right? |
| 13:19.34 | TD | hehe, i was talking about us |
| 13:19.38 | TD | but yes having them on board will help too :) |
| 13:19.43 | ChipX86 | somewhat, although they're coding it |
| 13:19.44 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 13:19.53 | TD | cool |
| 13:19.56 | ChipX86 | and it's good that we have a KDE guy trying to get support going in some form |
| 13:20.09 | TD | yes |
| 13:20.19 | ChipX86 | it's coming together... |
| 13:20.26 | ChipX86 | the potential road block, though, is the gnotify |
| 13:20.53 | ChipX86 | but I have a feeling that they'll either be forced to support the spec, or won't be used all that much, considering they "appear" to be gnome-based and we'll be a fd.o spec |
| 13:23.16 | ChipX86 | mmm the FF8 opening is so beautiful |
| 13:23.20 | TD | gnotify i doubt is a problem |
| 13:23.33 | TD | they seem a bit amateur and are totally uninterested in trying to expand the scope of their work |
| 13:23.37 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 13:23.41 | TD | plus have you seen their config window? |
| 13:23.44 | TD | pretty crazy ... |
| 13:23.52 | ChipX86 | they're only getting the attentino because there are no other real efforts, and really, we've kept somewhat quiet |
| 13:23.56 | ChipX86 | yes |
| 13:23.57 | ChipX86 | it's hideous |
| 13:24.27 | ChipX86 | my dad should be here soon |
| 13:27.28 | TD | ok, have a good time! |
| 13:28.07 | ChipX86 | will do :) bye |
| 13:32.20 | CIA-9 | autopackage: 03mike * 10autopackage/main/doc/categories.xml: Don't show private functions in the API docs |
| 13:53.21 | CIA-9 | autopackage: 03mike * 10autopackage/main/ (doc/docbook.xml doc/categories.xml ChangeLog): Remove obsolete UI functions from api listint |
| 14:31.27 | Samy | :) |
| 14:31.49 | gonkulator | howdy Samy |
| 14:31.52 | gonkulator | how be you doing? |
| 14:32.21 | Samy | Not bad, you? |
| 14:32.26 | Samy | http://samy.kerneled.org/music/arabeyes.mp3 |
| 14:32.41 | Samy | Not done, need to add some effects and fill some gaps. |
| 14:33.10 | gonkulator | heh, if I was on my own box, I would check that out really quick |
| 14:33.22 | Samy | I love it so far. |
| 14:33.31 | Samy | I'm spread so thin I can't breath, etc...shit |
| 14:33.32 | Samy | How about you? |
| 14:37.59 | gonkulator | its weird... I am just used to typing and having a computer |
| 14:38.25 | gonkulator | and now that I don't have a computer during the week, I miss it, but its not like I am going to die :) |