| 00:01.53 | lurgy | zak: oooh |
| 00:01.56 | lurgy | good thought |
| 00:02.23 | lurgy | zak: have y'all watched the atlantis premiere yet? |
| 00:03.44 | file | zak: did you download the second one? |
| 00:03.51 | file | if so, Atlantis is on... navi! |
| 00:04.00 | file | if not, half of Atlantis is on navi |
| 00:05.10 | lurgy | heh |
| 00:05.27 | ChipX86 | yay atlantis |
| 00:06.27 | file | lurgy: the Atlantis stargate is uber cool |
| 00:06.33 | ChipX86 | yes :D |
| 00:08.22 | ChipX86 | hmmm |
| 00:08.31 | ChipX86 | must figure out this bug |
| 00:09.18 | file | ChipX86: the toast... compels you! |
| 00:11.22 | cheers | eeek, not toast! |
| 00:12.30 | darth_mall | yay! |
| 00:12.38 | darth_mall | and got my dad a birthday present |
| 00:13.09 | file | what did you get him? |
| 00:15.16 | darth_mall | a rare Paul Simon single on vinyl, The Boy in the Bubble |
| 00:15.23 | darth_mall | the extended version that neither he nor I knew existed |
| 00:15.37 | cheers | wow |
| 00:15.46 | file | nifty |
| 00:16.12 | darth_mall | yup |
| 00:16.16 | darth_mall | and it was dirt cheap |
| 00:16.21 | darth_mall | $7 before my discount ^^ |
| 00:25.37 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jeffm * r4802 10opencombat/ (53 files in 11 dirs): remove dither, stipple, blend, smoth and shade. |
| 00:34.27 | zak | file: it seems you are have navi access, btw |
| 00:34.36 | zak | also, i reneed the ssh info |
| 00:36.55 | file | I tried making a directory like you told me, but whatever |
| 00:37.04 | file | the ip is 156.34.184.38 |
| 00:37.08 | file | use the same user/pass from before :) |
| 00:43.29 | purple_cow | zak: yesyesyesyes? |
| 00:44.00 | lurgy | ladeedaa |
| 00:46.30 | scanline | weeble |
| 00:48.56 | scanline | <Diablo-D3> around?. |
| 00:48.56 | scanline | <scanline> hmm? |
| 00:48.56 | scanline | <-- Diablo-D3 has quit (Client Quit) |
| 00:49.07 | zak | purple_cow: i wanted to know what you did to make the menu bars disappear |
| 00:49.42 | zak | and icons...i remember you showed me, but i don't recall what you did, other then make the menu bars appear on the screen at only 1 pixel and popup if i ran my mouse over them |
| 00:50.29 | scanline | zak: the gnome panels? |
| 00:51.05 | purple_cow | if you don't want them at all you need to make it not start up the panel |
| 00:51.14 | purple_cow | which involves either not running gnome at all or mucking with the session |
| 00:51.48 | scanline | there's little reason to actually have a gnome session if you don't want the panel or nautilus.. you can still run gnome apps |
| 00:51.58 | ChipX86 | you can just delete the panels |
| 00:52.34 | ChipX86 | hmm, it might not |
| 00:52.47 | ChipX86 | but she wants to amke them auto-hide |
| 00:52.50 | ChipX86 | right? |
| 00:52.59 | slimspace | zak was using gnome-session to allow her to change her background, if I remember correctly |
| 00:53.16 | scanline | looks to me like she figured out auto-hide, but that isn't what she wants |
| 00:53.26 | ChipX86 | oh, I read that wrong |
| 00:53.54 | zak | yes |
| 00:54.00 | slimspace | yeah, she's had auto-hide...zak, if nautilus is the culprit, we need to make a change in your session. |
| 00:54.05 | zak | no, auto hide would be fine |
| 00:54.08 | zak | it just isn't |
| 00:54.20 | zak | and heads over. |
| 00:54.32 | slimspace | over where? |
| 00:54.35 | zak | #2 |
| 00:54.39 | slimspace | ah |
| 00:54.48 | zak | scanline and i are going to have a xfiles binge....cause that's fun |
| 00:55.07 | zak | *only secretly, zak will be doing chem...*shhh!* |
| 00:55.08 | slimspace | sounds fun |
| 00:55.13 | zak | slimspace: join |
| 00:55.22 | darth_mall | there, finally |
| 00:55.23 | slimspace | when were you planning this? |
| 00:55.27 | zak | it is not a private party |
| 00:55.44 | zak | slimspace: until we either 1)get tired 2)get bored 3)run out of xfiles |
| 00:56.03 | slimspace | cool, I should be able to make it. I'm working late though |
| 00:56.42 | slimspace | scanline: I think I finally figured out why uclibc was giving me problems |
| 00:56.48 | scanline | hmm? |
| 00:56.53 | slimspace | It tried to enable hardware FPU support. |
| 00:57.00 | scanline | ahh |
| 00:57.32 | slimspace | I managed to compile busybox statically so I could actually get in and see what was going on, and anything that linked to it segfaulted at runtime. |
| 00:59.12 | scanline | any dynamic linking at all segfaulted, or just uclibc? |
| 00:59.28 | slimspace | well, anything that goes through uclibc |
| 00:59.51 | slimspace | there's no other libraries or dynamically linked programs installed, so that's all I have to go on. |
| 01:00.52 | scanline | it could be a uclibc problem, or it could be the dynamic linker itself |
| 01:00.58 | scanline | IIRC uclibc also comes with its own ld.so |
| 01:01.12 | slimspace | yeah, it segfaulted too when run |
| 01:01.20 | scanline | if that's the case, you could try using glibc's ld.so but not glibc itself |
| 01:01.53 | slimspace | worth a try |
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| 01:04.40 | slimspace | nope, still a segfault |
| 01:04.59 | slimspace | although glibc's loader does work. |
| 01:05.07 | scanline | have you tried statically linking against uclibc |
| 01:05.08 | scanline | oh |
| 01:05.29 | slimspace | but it segfaults, even with that loader. Running the loader itself works. |
| 01:06.05 | scanline | er.. you're just running ld.so? |
| 01:06.10 | slimspace | yeah |
| 01:06.20 | slimspace | if I use that to later run, say, ldd, it segfaults |
| 01:06.45 | scanline | could be it's bad, but could also be that uclibc just doesn't implement running ld.so standalone like that |
| 01:07.00 | scanline | kergoth`gone: any ideas? ;) |
| 01:07.34 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 01:07.39 | scanline | I should really play around with this ARM hardware I have some more... |
| 01:07.45 | cheers | what's that? |
| 01:07.46 | scanline | like that sexy little C700 with the slow crufty GUI |
| 01:08.42 | purple_cow | cook some vegetables with a fairly standard dry-ish indian method, then stick them on a white pizza |
| 01:09.07 | darth_mall | 2 more target tests left |
| 01:11.47 | purple_cow | DAMNIT |
| 01:11.52 | purple_cow | what am i going to eat? |
| 01:11.57 | file[desk] | :( |
| 01:12.16 | ChipX86 | salamanders |
| 01:12.20 | purple_cow | ew |
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| 02:02.53 | SecretMethod70 | ChipX86: :qq, |
| 02:02.58 | SecretMethod70 | oops |
| 02:03.07 | SecretMethod70 | a friend is curious why Gaim is written all in C |
| 02:04.27 | gonkulator | found, one cell phone |
| 02:04.45 | SecretMethod70 | any insights ChipX86 |
| 02:04.49 | SecretMethod70 | ? |
| 02:05.22 | scanline | why wouldn't it be written in C? |
| 02:07.20 | SecretMethod70 | perhaps because of its psuedo object oriented nature? |
| 02:08.12 | scanline | heh. lots of C code is far more object oriented than the average C++ program |
| 02:08.17 | scanline | ever used gobject? |
| 02:08.25 | scanline | it's far nicer than C++'s object model |
| 02:09.00 | SecretMethod70 | *shrug* that's just what my friend said |
| 02:09.30 | scanline | sound like he's one of far too many people that haven't learned what object oriented programming really is |
| 02:11.28 | SecretMethod70 | is gobject some sort of API? program? else? |
| 02:11.44 | scanline | it's a library.. an object model |
| 02:12.17 | scanline | gtk is very object oriented, but instead of using an object model built in to the language it's written in, it uses C and gobject |
| 02:14.42 | darth_mall | oof |
| 02:15.35 | scanline | ploo |
| 02:15.51 | darth_mall | hi scanline |
| 02:17.34 | SecretMethod70 | so, Gaim uses gobject then? |
| 02:17.42 | scanline | uhhuh |
| 02:18.12 | scanline | all of gnome is based on gtk, glib, and gobject |
| 02:18.20 | SecretMethod70 | heh, ok, sorry - I'm just one of those mythical end-users and I'm just being a mediator for my programmer friend ;) |
| 02:18.37 | scanline | all gtk apps at least use gobjects via gtk widgets, and many apps have their own gobjects |
| 02:19.53 | gonkulator | ok, a bunch of firefly episodes have been uploaded to my home directory on navi, including the one that was new to me (107) |
| 02:20.00 | scanline | yay |
| 02:20.40 | gonkulator | do you want me to finish transcoding and uploading, or is that a waste of time and bandwidth for you ugys? |
| 02:20.47 | gonkulator | s/ugys/guys/ |
| 02:21.12 | gonkulator | s/time/my time/ |
| 02:21.31 | darth_mall | gonkulator: it's good if we don't have 'em |
| 02:21.39 | scanline | we could always use more firefly.. as for other movies/shows, you should ask |
| 02:21.43 | gonkulator | well, I don't know which ones you have and don't |
| 02:21.46 | darth_mall | we've still got some in transcode/ that haven't been done yet, but we can save you time by doing them ourselves |
| 02:21.56 | scanline | gonkulator: you still have read perms for /navi :P |
| 02:22.42 | darth_mall | and /navi/tmp/transcode is world rw |
| 02:22.56 | gonkulator | oh |
| 02:23.18 | gonkulator | well, whatever |
| 02:23.26 | gonkulator | the one I didn't see with you is up |
| 02:23.48 | gonkulator | and I am going to transcode the rest for my stuff |
| 02:24.28 | scanline | erg |
| 02:24.37 | darth_mall | scanline: are you guys watching X-Files? |
| 02:24.44 | scanline | needs a sticky bit and o-w |
| 02:24.48 | scanline | darth_mall: yes |
| 02:25.15 | darth_mall | scanline: you should watch the next up here |
| 02:25.26 | scanline | ooooh neat |
| 02:25.33 | scanline | my star wars torrents are about 1/3 done |
| 02:25.56 | scanline | yay for original non-"special"-edition-crap laserdisc rips |
| 02:32.49 | darth_mall | ooh star wars |
| 02:34.53 | scanline | which people? |
| 02:34.57 | file[desk] | darth_mall, O.o |
| 02:34.59 | darth_mall | ticketmaster |
| 02:35.11 | darth_mall | they send me this thing about this House of Blues concert |
| 02:35.22 | darth_mall | but I don't see any indication of who is playing |
| 02:35.30 | darth_mall | but there's like 7 images that didn't loat |
| 02:35.39 | darth_mall | s/t$/d/ |
| 02:37.05 | darth_mall | I just wish people would realize that just because they can fill things full of extra stuff, doesn't mean it's a good idea |
| 02:39.44 | zak | darth_mall: is this flogging molly? |
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| 02:47.56 | darth_mall | zak: it are |
| 02:49.35 | darth_mall | it's such a great album |
| 02:52.33 | purple_cow | ++ |
| 02:55.18 | scanline | wibble! |
| 02:55.58 | zak | hmmm |
| 02:56.04 | zak | potatoes! |
| 02:56.39 | darth_mall | scanline: this emphasize transients feature is one of the greatest things since sliced bread |
| 02:56.44 | scanline | hehe |
| 02:56.46 | scanline | isn't it neat? |
| 02:56.56 | scanline | I made some cool pictures yesterday |
| 02:57.19 | scanline | check out 40.png through 43.png on navi |
| 02:57.56 | darth_mall | I think 43 is the one I set at work today ^^ |
| 02:58.05 | scanline | hehe |
| 02:58.06 | lurgy | yay the interweb connectimated me again |
| 02:58.24 | zak | no it didn't |
| 02:58.24 | scanline | yay, interweb |
| 02:58.34 | zak | you used meatpaste... i saw you |
| 02:58.44 | darth_mall | yup, I set 43 at work |
| 02:58.47 | lurgy | yay meatpaste |
| 02:58.48 | darth_mall | hi lurgy |
| 02:58.53 | darth_mall | lurgy: you comin' over tonight? |
| 02:59.04 | lurgy | i don't think so |
| 02:59.20 | lurgy | unless i really want to buy more |
| 02:59.58 | lurgy | zak: what's your KoL user? |
| 03:00.53 | darth_mall | scanline: navi/~evan/unnamed_03.png |
| 03:01.23 | scanline | yay, bright |
| 03:01.30 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 03:03.51 | lurgy | yay only 55 more minutes until KoL gives out more adventure point |
| 03:04.36 | lurgy | eek H's |
| 03:05.03 | darth_mall | lol |
| 03:05.48 | lurgy | damn you zak for showing me this |
| 03:05.53 | lurgy | ;) |
| 03:06.56 | scanline | hah |
| 03:07.08 | scanline | this pilot in the second X-files episode looks a bit like michael |
| 03:07.31 | scanline | same baldness and lack of smile :P |
| 03:13.05 | darth_mall | http://navi/~evan/mountain_peaks.png |
| 03:14.17 | scanline | ooh, cute |
| 03:14.43 | darth_mall | scanline: ok |
| 03:15.37 | darth_mall | there |
| 03:16.31 | darth_mall | hmm... no thumbnails... |
| 03:16.38 | scanline | I'll re-run album |
| 03:16.49 | scanline | it also gets run on a cron job every night |
| 03:16.53 | darth_mall | mmk |
| 03:17.00 | darth_mall | as long as it's not something I have to do manually |
| 03:17.08 | scanline | there |
| 03:17.15 | darth_mall | scanline: so if you guys watch more X-Files you should do it up here ^^ |
| 03:17.21 | darth_mall | unless you need to be at Yoshi, in which case nm |
| 03:17.22 | scanline | oh |
| 03:17.30 | scanline | I'm watching more now, but I'm also getting work done |
| 03:18.07 | darth_mall | mmk |
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| 03:29.34 | CIA-8 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r245 10dino/trunk/fsw/Dino/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 03:29.36 | CIA-8 | spacegrant: Make a fairly invasive but quite beneficial change to the microcontroller |
| 03:29.38 | CIA-8 | spacegrant: protocol- the header now includes a 16-bit request ID. This isn't used for |
| 03:29.40 | CIA-8 | spacegrant: anything yet, but it will let us reliably pipeline requests over high-latency |
| 03:29.42 | CIA-8 | spacegrant: transports. |
| 03:31.34 | laodamas | Cae: good morning! |
| 03:32.53 | lurgy | morning laodamas |
| 03:32.57 | lurgy | and Cae |
| 03:33.04 | purple_cow | lurgy: why are you not here? |
| 03:36.11 | purple_cow | lurgy: bicycle |
| 03:36.53 | lurgy | that's a fantastic idea |
| 03:37.06 | lurgy | i'll bike there, in the dark through thunderstorms |
| 03:37.26 | purple_cow | YAY! |
| 03:38.08 | lurgy | damn, the seal clubbinbg frenzy isn't cumulative |
| 03:38.12 | laodamas | lurgy: I've done crazier things |
| 03:38.25 | lurgy | laodamas: i imagine so |
| 03:38.56 | Cae | hmm..what are the GL libs in gentoo? |
| 03:39.14 | purple_cow | depends |
| 03:39.36 | Cae | checking for glGetError in -lGL... no |
| 03:39.37 | Cae | configure: error: Cannot find required GL library |
| 03:39.42 | Cae | etc |
| 03:39.43 | Cae | etc |
| 03:40.22 | darth_mall | pretty dog |
| 03:40.33 | darth_mall | yay dog! |
| 03:40.49 | lurgy | Cae: what video driver are you using? |
| 03:41.01 | Cae | nvidia |
| 03:41.50 | lurgy | try doing a sudo opengl-config xfree |
| 03:41.55 | lurgy | building the package |
| 03:41.56 | lurgy | then |
| 03:42.05 | lurgy | sudo opengl-config nvidia |
| 03:42.28 | Cae | bah. |
| 03:42.32 | Cae | no, nvidia-glx |
| 03:42.41 | purple_cow | http://www.boulderhumane.org//adopt/animals/A117233.html |
| 03:42.45 | Cae | and the command after it is the one I forgot. |
| 03:43.06 | lurgy | =) |
| 03:43.08 | purple_cow | i want her :( |
| 03:43.51 | scanline | cute dog |
| 03:44.03 | Cae | I love animals..any time I get a cat or a dog, it's coming from the animal shelter.. |
| 03:44.41 | lurgy | ~boulderslap purple_cow |
| 03:44.43 | jbot | ACTION buries purple_cow in a compost heap and plants an echinacea tree on it |
| 03:44.48 | lurgy | (just for it being a husky =p) |
| 03:44.50 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 03:45.12 | Cae | half husky |
| 03:45.20 | purple_cow | but it's so cute |
| 03:45.21 | lurgy | hmm |
| 03:46.14 | lurgy | ~halfboulderslap purple_cow |
| 03:46.16 | jbot | ACTION buries purple_cow in a compost heap but doesn't plant an echinacea tree on it |
| 03:47.28 | darth_mall | pfff |
| 03:47.36 | darth_mall | what do boulder and huskies have to do with each other? |
| 03:47.47 | darth_mall | my mom had a huskie when we lived in Maryland =P |
| 03:48.15 | darth_mall | and some yellow labs too |
| 03:48.16 | lurgy | maybe, but 5 or 10 years ago *everyone* had huskies in boulder |
| 03:48.26 | lurgy | now everyone has goldens |
| 03:48.43 | purple_cow | and labs |
| 03:48.47 | darth_mall | ~sorboslap lurgy |
| 03:48.51 | jbot | ACTION assails lurgy with Kevin Sorbo's sense of self-satisfaction |
| 03:49.17 | lurgy | eventually boulderites will run out of species of huge dog =p |
| 03:49.30 | lurgy | and then everyone will have poodles |
| 03:49.33 | purple_cow | eek |
| 03:49.34 | lurgy | just like in switzerland |
| 03:49.42 | purple_cow | my parents' neighbors have poodles |
| 03:49.45 | purple_cow | it's creepy |
| 03:49.47 | lurgy | heh |
| 03:49.51 | lurgy | so do mine |
| 03:49.55 | lurgy | only it's some sort of giant poodle |
| 03:50.01 | lurgy | with a proportionate energy increase |
| 03:50.36 | darth_mall | ummm... |
| 03:50.45 | darth_mall | golden's, huskies and labs are not huge |
| 03:50.48 | lurgy | it's exceptionally scary |
| 03:50.52 | darth_mall | and poodles are the same size as golden's =P |
| 03:50.57 | darth_mall | *toy* poodles are small |
| 03:51.01 | darth_mall | different breed of dog =P |
| 03:51.06 | lurgy | darth_mall: *giant*! |
| 03:51.13 | lurgy | it's not even a normal poodle |
| 03:51.14 | purple_cow | there are plenty of -really- huge dogs that you don't see many of in boulder |
| 03:51.17 | lurgy | it's some sort of uberpoodle |
| 03:53.13 | darth_mall | mmhmm |
| 03:54.07 | lurgy | yep |
| 03:54.10 | lurgy | that'll show you |
| 03:55.40 | lurgy | yay adventure got distributed |
| 03:56.03 | lurgy | yay i got the dolphin king's crown |
| 03:56.25 | lurgy | whatever that does for me |
| 03:57.54 | ChipX86 | back |
| 03:57.57 | ChipX86 | VMware called |
| 03:58.09 | purple_cow | ChipX86: yesyes? |
| 03:58.09 | lurgy | ooh |
| 03:58.11 | lurgy | well? |
| 03:58.15 | ChipX86 | they offered the job |
| 03:58.25 | ChipX86 | but they won't be starting me at the $60,000 |
| 03:58.30 | lurgy | =D |
| 03:58.34 | lurgy | aw =( |
| 03:58.39 | lurgy | how much do they start you at? |
| 03:58.43 | ChipX86 | $80,000 |
| 03:58.49 | lurgy | heheh |
| 03:58.50 | purple_cow | wow |
| 03:58.52 | lurgy | poor chip |
| 03:58.58 | scanline | yes, poor chip ;) |
| 03:59.01 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 03:59.04 | ChipX86 | I'm in shock |
| 03:59.14 | ChipX86 | I'll be moving in probably a couple of weeks |
| 03:59.17 | lurgy | so that means you're gonna pay for juan and cheers and y'all are gonna come on up here, right? :) |
| 03:59.20 | scanline | go chip :) |
| 03:59.22 | lurgy | congrats |
| 03:59.27 | darth_mall | lurgy: that dolphin king crown is pretty useless |
| 03:59.34 | lurgy | yep |
| 04:02.12 | lurgy | ooh, undead elbow macaroni |
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| 04:06.03 | scanline | and some macaroni |
| 04:07.54 | lurgy | hey macaroni |
| 04:11.25 | lurgy | jjyay chowder |
| 04:11.30 | lurgy | yay 5 MP now |
| 04:14.56 | darth_mall | yay |
| 04:15.50 | zak | haha! lurgy is addicted now also :) |
| 04:16.33 | lurgy | zak: noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 04:16.34 | lurgy | or, yes |
| 04:16.56 | lurgy | ChipX86: now you can bet $80000 and feel assured in your knowledge that you could pay it with a year's wages =p |
| 04:17.11 | darth_mall | mmm... weretaco |
| 04:17.12 | lurgy | dammit, i keep getting deaded |
| 04:17.41 | cheers | ?!? |
| 04:17.44 | cheers | congrats chip!! |
| 04:18.27 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 04:22.23 | lurgy | Cae: hmm? |
| 04:22.47 | Cae | I don't remember when mage started |
| 04:22.55 | lurgy | aw |
| 04:23.17 | CIA-8 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r246 10dino/trunk/fsw/Dino/Hardware/Micro/Protocol.py: Add request ID support to the host and device protocols |
| 04:23.32 | darth_mall | Cae: Mage: The Ascension? |
| 04:27.44 | Cae | yeah |
| 04:27.49 | Cae | well, our game |
| 04:27.52 | darth_mall | oh |
| 04:28.09 | Cae | I also don't remember how much arrete and willpower you get to start with |
| 04:28.53 | darth_mall | wooo! level 7 |
| 04:28.57 | Cae | lol |
| 04:30.40 | Cae | hm. sleep. sleep would be good. |
| 04:32.29 | Cae | I need a name for a german/russian sociopath obsessed with weapons |
| 04:32.53 | purple_cow | Franz Ivanovich Lobachevsky |
| 04:33.24 | Cae | :P |
| 04:33.32 | Cae | something that entirely doesn't fit with that personality type |
| 04:34.40 | purple_cow | sociothopy is so boring |
| 04:36.03 | Cae | not when I play it :) |
| 04:36.24 | lurgy | Cae: Schwarzchild |
| 04:36.40 | lurgy | or |
| 04:36.47 | lurgy | Arnold Schoenberg |
| 04:37.07 | Cae | what happened to all of the fun names meaning "bringer of death" and whatnot.. |
| 04:37.15 | darth_mall | pff |
| 04:37.16 | lurgy | or Anton Webern |
| 04:37.17 | darth_mall | that's not fun |
| 04:37.20 | lurgy | Cae: ooh, Mars? |
| 04:37.39 | lurgy | Adolf Stalin! |
| 04:37.54 | darth_mall | Cae: if you want a cool name for a vampire you should call them the greek words for "sweet smelling bouquet of flowers" |
| 04:37.55 | cheers | bad, lurgy |
| 04:38.04 | darth_mall | naming a vampire "bringer of death" is boring |
| 04:38.17 | cheers | name him enrique! |
| 04:38.17 | lurgy | cheers: well, you try coming up with a more sociopathic-sounding name |
| 04:38.25 | lurgy | or Alfonz |
| 04:38.26 | darth_mall | or german for "love bunny of justice" would be cool |
| 04:38.38 | lurgy | ooh ooh ooh |
| 04:38.43 | cheers | Ed. |
| 04:39.02 | lurgy | hey, that's my dad's name |
| 04:39.11 | cheers | is your dad a love bunny of justice? |
| 04:39.37 | lurgy | er.. sure |
| 04:39.40 | lurgy | ^_^ |
| 04:39.43 | lurgy | here we go |
| 04:39.55 | lurgy | Cae: Hackbratenabschussrampe |
| 04:40.06 | lurgy | the most diabolically evel sociopath EVER |
| 04:40.13 | lurgy | or if you wantit to be a full name |
| 04:40.24 | lurgy | it could be Jim Hackbratenabschussrampe |
| 04:40.26 | darth_mall | that's good |
| 04:40.32 | darth_mall | well, sans the 'jim' |
| 04:40.33 | lurgy | or Hans Hackbratenabschussrampe |
| 04:40.47 | darth_mall | lurgy: who needs first names with a last name like that |
| 04:40.55 | lurgy | heh, works for me |
| 04:41.06 | lurgy | Hackbratenabschussrampe von Stalin |
| 04:41.52 | darth_mall | better |
| 04:42.12 | darth_mall | "bringer of death" is something a silly Toreador would start calling themselves cuz they think it's dark and mysteeeeeeeeeeerious |
| 04:42.40 | lurgy | Cae: got it? mr. von Stalin will destroy everybody |
| 04:43.56 | lurgy | hmm, musta droved her away |
| 04:44.10 | Cae | darth_mall: that's why I'm naming her something like Heidi |
| 04:45.10 | lurgy | ooooh |
| 04:45.12 | lurgy | that would work well |
| 04:45.21 | lurgy | Heidi Hackbratenabschussrampe |
| 04:45.28 | lurgy | or Heidi von Stalin |
| 04:45.36 | lurgy | maybe even Heidi von Trotsky |
| 04:45.57 | lurgy | cuz see, after he was icepick murdered in south america |
| 04:46.05 | darth_mall | Trotsky is a good name |
| 04:46.10 | lurgy | trotsky came back from the dead |
| 04:46.13 | lurgy | got a sex change |
| 04:46.16 | lurgy | and moved to germany |
| 04:46.30 | lurgy | and now he's a VAMPIRE!!! |
| 04:46.53 | Cae | hm. Gretchen. |
| 04:47.05 | darth_mall | hehehe |
| 04:47.34 | lurgy | Gretchen von Trotsky? |
| 04:47.53 | lurgy | i suppose there's all the Wagner opera names |
| 04:48.01 | lurgy | like Brunhilde |
| 04:48.30 | lurgy | hmm, german names.. |
| 04:48.31 | lurgy | Greta |
| 04:48.38 | Cae | Mina |
| 04:48.48 | darth_mall | arfy |
| 04:48.53 | darth_mall | call her Arfy |
| 04:49.25 | darth_mall | oorr.... call her JoMamma and then have her get offended whenever people call her name... |
| 04:49.34 | darth_mall | "hey! JoMamma!" "what did you say?!!!?!?!?!" |
| 04:49.37 | lurgy | rofl |
| 04:49.49 | Cae | I like Mina |
| 04:49.51 | lurgy | Letterman makes me happy |
| 04:49.56 | darth_mall | and she never figures it out |
| 04:50.00 | lurgy | Mina voin Trotsky? |
| 04:51.34 | lurgy | "35 years ago, the United States landed on the moon.. but within the last four years, moon travel has been OFF LIMITS to middle class americans, thanks to President Bush's misguided economic policies. (Vote Kerry!)" |
| 04:51.54 | darth_mall | lurgy: lol |
| 04:52.44 | lurgy | ..and all through that they were playing Mars, from The Planets |
| 04:53.20 | darth_mall | woo! I think I can equip my linoleum staff |
| 04:57.40 | lurgy | fufu |
| 04:58.04 | darth_mall | yup |
| 04:59.33 | Cae | Mina Wagner |
| 05:02.46 | Cae | Mina Reinhardt |
| 05:03.27 | lurgy | heh |
| 05:03.32 | lurgy | Mina Holst? |
| 05:03.43 | lurgy | Mina Mahler?? |
| 05:04.03 | lurgy | Mina Hindemith? |
| 05:04.10 | lurgy | hmm |
| 05:04.28 | lurgy | you gotta admit, Mina Mahler has some nice consonance to it |
| 05:04.50 | Cae | ew |
| 05:04.55 | lurgy | though mostly that just goes toward making her sound like a porn star |
| 05:05.16 | darth_mall | hehe, yeah |
| 05:05.33 | darth_mall | but I do like Mina Mahler |
| 05:05.50 | lurgy | Mina Bruckner |
| 05:05.56 | lurgy | no! more composers! |
| 05:06.02 | lurgy | Mina Ustvolskaya |
| 05:06.30 | lurgy | Mina Berg |
| 05:06.48 | lurgy | Mina Schwarzchild could be nice.. |
| 05:07.58 | lurgy | Mina Nevsky |
| 05:08.04 | lurgy | Mina Romanov |
| 05:08.16 | Cae | Mina Schatz |
| 05:08.28 | lurgy | Mina Wilhelm |
| 05:08.47 | Cae | Mina Stahl |
| 05:09.08 | lurgy | you might be able to pass off Mina Schwarzchild off as Karl Schwarzchild's daughter |
| 05:09.24 | lurgy | undead version of Schwarzchild anyways |
| 05:09.33 | lurgy | er |
| 05:09.43 | lurgy | undead version of his daughter.. |
| 05:10.33 | lurgy | Mina Kuester |
| 05:10.44 | lurgy | >:D |
| 05:10.55 | lurgy | Mina Hesse |
| 05:12.36 | Cae | Mina Stahl. |
| 05:12.39 | lurgy | Louise Pasteur |
| 05:12.45 | lurgy | heh, darn |
| 05:13.04 | Cae | Stahl = Steel |
| 05:13.13 | darth_mall | hmm... Kuester |
| 05:13.14 | Cae | Mina is short for Wilhelmina |
| 05:13.14 | darth_mall | I like that |
| 05:13.25 | lurgy | heh |
| 05:13.26 | darth_mall | Cae: you're names are far too serious |
| 05:13.37 | darth_mall | you need more iron and or hilariyt |
| 05:13.41 | darth_mall | erm... hilarity |
| 05:13.46 | darth_mall | s/iron/irony/ |
| 05:13.47 | lurgy | heh |
| 05:13.50 | darth_mall | mm... typing soooo good |
| 05:13.53 | Cae | ..no comment.. |
| 05:13.55 | lurgy | like with Mina van Trotsky? |
| 05:14.07 | Cae | Mina Fleischer :P |
| 05:14.12 | Cae | Butcher |
| 05:14.24 | lurgy | van is better than von since it's dutch and adds more cultural flair |
| 05:14.29 | Cae | Mina Berger |
| 05:14.31 | lurgy | and be sides that the dutch are just cool in general |
| 05:14.34 | lurgy | hehe |
| 05:14.43 | lurgy | Mina von Cheeseburg |
| 05:14.50 | darth_mall | lurgy wins |
| 05:14.59 | lurgy | er, van Cheeseburg |
| 05:15.11 | lurgy | yep |
| 05:15.22 | lurgy | mine is going to have to be Dmitri von Cheeseburg or sommat |
| 05:15.47 | lurgy | or i could just call him Flower |
| 05:16.03 | lurgy | (or her, or whatever) |
| 05:17.10 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 05:17.22 | darth_mall | first time ever, for me ^^ |
| 05:17.38 | Cae | Mina Tanzer |
| 05:17.42 | lurgy | heh, oh no.. |
| 05:18.14 | lurgy | heh |
| 05:18.42 | lurgy | business major |
| 05:18.42 | lurgy | two years |
| 05:18.45 | lurgy | ahead of me |
| 05:19.39 | lurgy | Cae: Mina Besprueht |
| 05:20.34 | lurgy | (ther was an umlaut over the u and no second e the way google translated it, but win32 ssh ain't UTF happy..) |
| 05:21.00 | purple_cow | yay for tastybite brand tupperware |
| 05:21.18 | Cae | sleeeep.. |
| 05:21.22 | lurgy | huh, that word comes back "spraying" |
| 05:21.26 | lurgy | it started out as sprinkles |
| 05:21.34 | lurgy | g'night Cae|Sleep |
| 05:21.43 | zak | darth_mall: 1) 9 princes of amber is a very good book 2)can you help me make my character for changeling? 3)kwibble! |
| 05:21.58 | Cae|Sleep | redcap! |
| 05:22.04 | lurgy | =) |
| 05:22.10 | zak | bluecap! |
| 05:22.50 | zak | purple_cow: yea for it actually being dishwasher safe ^_^ |
| 05:22.52 | lurgy | whooooooa |
| 05:22.55 | lurgy | this is *really* weird |
| 05:23.01 | zak | lurgy: ? |
| 05:23.02 | lurgy | i'm getting a wedding invitation from Robyn |
| 05:23.07 | purple_cow | creepy |
| 05:23.12 | lurgy | who is in my (junior) class |
| 05:23.21 | lurgy | now i feel old |
| 05:23.38 | lurgy | not as old as if i were getting AARP mail |
| 05:23.41 | lurgy | but pretty old |
| 05:24.15 | lurgy | hehe |
| 05:24.36 | lurgy | when/if *I* get married |
| 05:24.44 | lurgy | i'm going to make sure that there is a typo in all the invitations |
| 05:25.02 | lurgy | thus inviting recipients to marry me |
| 05:25.08 | lurgy | or perhaps my bride |
| 05:25.18 | zak | hehe |
| 05:25.38 | zak | lurgy: watch out, darth_mall would take you up on that :P |
| 05:25.47 | lurgy | hmm |
| 05:25.49 | zak | maybe scanline slso |
| 05:25.51 | lurgy | yep, better make it my bride |
| 05:26.15 | lurgy | hmm, that looks an awful lot like move-in day |
| 05:26.35 | zak | lurgy: good thing you are all but moved |
| 05:26.44 | lurgy | yep |
| 05:26.49 | lurgy | except for the stuff i have in my room |
| 05:27.35 | zak | you don't need clothes |
| 05:27.46 | zak | no-one around here wears any |
| 05:28.40 | purple_cow | yay, a meat engine |
| 05:31.02 | darth_mall | zak: I'm gonna help people roll next week |
| 05:31.38 | darth_mall | but the plan is to have everyone rolled by the time BlackIrisDancer gets back from Cali |
| 05:31.54 | darth_mall | so he can start the game without having to deal with rolling, as that takes a while, especially your first time |
| 05:33.35 | lurgy | zak: heh, maybe not, but i do need the red dwarf DVDs ;) |
| 05:34.50 | lurgy | zak: sounds like a scandalous arrangement you have going over there in #1 ;) |
| 05:36.46 | scanline | yay |
| 05:36.57 | scanline | I can simulate low-quality communication links now |
| 05:38.16 | zak | and i certainly don't wear sandwiches |
| 05:39.41 | lurgy | zak: hah, you say thqat now |
| 05:39.57 | lurgy | but we'll see if you're singing the same song when i get Rich to make you insanely drunk |
| 05:40.07 | darth_mall | scanline needs a hat that says 'NICAP' |
| 05:40.19 | lurgy | but it's gonna be a very big sandwich |
| 05:40.22 | lurgy | with a bow tie |
| 05:42.05 | CIA-8 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r247 10dino/trunk/fsw/Dino/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Yay, we now have a way to test low quality communication links. Any two Twisted protocols can now be connected via a packetizer that simulates all the fun latency and packet loss we see in real packet radio links |
| 05:43.28 | lurgy | heh, i'll be able to have stirring geeky conversations with everybody there |
| 05:43.30 | darth_mall | this one looks kinda neat too... http://navi.cx/images/chaos/star.png |
| 05:43.38 | lurgy | since she's marrying an engineer |
| 05:44.00 | scanline | hehe |
| 05:45.34 | darth_mall | and the oversampling is great too |
| 05:45.43 | scanline | yeah, it's gamma corrected now =D |
| 05:45.49 | darth_mall | but purple_cow needs to bring home a computer from work so that it doesn't take so much time |
| 05:45.51 | darth_mall | ;) |
| 05:45.54 | purple_cow | gonkulator: how about you upload to /navi/tmp in the future ;) |
| 05:46.15 | gonkulator | fair enough |
| 05:46.22 | gonkulator | some of those episodes are bad encodes though... |
| 05:46.29 | darth_mall | yay |
| 05:46.37 | gonkulator | if 109 or 111 got uploaded, they're bad |
| 05:46.53 | gonkulator | mkay |
| 05:47.07 | gonkulator | twice as long |
| 05:47.13 | darth_mall | oh, was it really? |
| 05:47.15 | gonkulator | yep |
| 05:47.18 | gonkulator | two parter |
| 05:47.19 | darth_mall | hmm |
| 05:47.21 | darth_mall | never noticed |
| 05:47.53 | scanline | darth_mall: eek, you haven't seen all the firefly? |
| 05:48.01 | darth_mall | scanline: yeah, I did |
| 05:48.05 | scanline | ah |
| 05:48.05 | darth_mall | a couple times |
| 05:48.06 | gonkulator | no, he was talking about what I uploaded |
| 05:48.08 | scanline | ok |
| 05:48.35 | gonkulator | and 107 might be new to you guys |
| 05:48.59 | CIA-8 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r248 10dino/trunk/fsw/Dino/Test/test_micro_protocol.py: After some quick calculations, we know what not to expect ;) |
| 05:50.41 | purple_cow | SCANLINE! |
| 05:50.44 | scanline | ? |
| 05:50.47 | darth_mall | c'mere! |
| 05:50.52 | scanline | hmmm |
| 05:50.58 | darth_mall | come HERE! |
| 05:51.17 | rioter | ... |
| 05:52.05 | darth_mall | wow |
| 05:52.07 | darth_mall | silly slimspace |
| 05:52.17 | slimspace | I know, I'm a dork |
| 06:03.47 | *** join/#tacobeam rioter (~rar@dsl-203-33-165-183.NSW.netspace.net.au) |
| 06:08.23 | purple_cow | hahahaha |
| 06:08.23 | purple_cow | "fixing your bible" |
| 06:08.51 | gonkulator | yeah |
| 06:08.58 | gonkulator | first time watching I take it |
| 06:13.26 | purple_cow | yep |
| 06:13.29 | purple_cow | 'tis exciting |
| 06:13.35 | rioter | ? |
| 06:16.28 | lurgy | heh, i imagine gonkulator appreciates that sort of thing |
| 06:23.43 | gonkulator | though, the shepard's response was pretty good |
| 06:30.10 | lurgy | =) |
| 06:36.28 | darth_mall | paper mache sure is heavy |
| 06:37.49 | gonkulator | odd how the last episodes end in funeral type things |
| 06:37.59 | darth_mall | nope |
| 06:39.57 | gonkulator | wb slimspace |
| 06:40.04 | slimspace | hey everyone |
| 06:40.09 | gonkulator | no no |
| 06:40.11 | gonkulator | just me |
| 06:40.22 | slimspace | oh well then. Hey gonkulator |
| 06:40.43 | darth_mall | lurgy: you *are* easter island |
| 06:41.51 | slimspace | where's everyone at? |
| 06:41.57 | gonkulator | the springs |
| 06:42.08 | lurgy | home |
| 06:42.22 | slimspace | ah |
| 06:42.46 | lurgy | come to think of it, i wanna go to peru too |
| 06:43.01 | gonkulator | anywhere there are llamas, right? |
| 06:43.12 | lurgy | sure |
| 06:43.12 | slimspace | I will happily go pretty much anywhere outside of Colorado |
| 06:43.18 | lurgy | though i'm not sure there are a lot on easter island |
| 06:43.33 | lurgy | yeah, i haven't left the state in two years now |
| 06:44.02 | slimspace | hmm...I left the state about 5 years ago, and that was the first time. Lasted an hour, at the border of Wyoming to buy fireworks. |
| 06:45.00 | lurgy | first time ever? |
| 06:45.04 | slimspace | yeah |
| 06:45.11 | lurgy | wow |
| 06:45.21 | lurgy | :) |
| 06:45.26 | slimspace | yay somewhere! |
| 06:45.40 | lurgy | parents weren't so much for teh travelling, i guess? :) |
| 06:45.46 | slimspace | not so much at all |
| 06:45.51 | rioter | i cant stand planes |
| 06:46.32 | scanline | you haven't been on a plane? |
| 06:46.36 | lurgy | =( |
| 06:46.46 | slimspace | nope. That trip to Wyoming was via car |
| 06:46.51 | rioter | my parents were the lets take our children everywhere type of parents |
| 06:46.55 | lurgy | scanline: heh, well it doesn't make too much sense to fly to wyoming ;) |
| 06:46.55 | scanline | you should come to siggraph ;) |
| 06:47.10 | rioter | and me being tall it was so uncomfortable |
| 06:47.11 | slimspace | oh how I wish I could |
| 06:47.40 | gonkulator | rioter: how tall are you? |
| 06:47.44 | lurgy | slimspace: well one of these days we'll have to drag you to somewhere in the south |
| 06:47.48 | rioter | 6'3 |
| 06:47.57 | slimspace | lurgy: I wouldn't object to that |
| 06:48.21 | lurgy | slimspace: the climate and culture are so radically different.. plus there's a lot of air |
| 06:48.30 | slimspace | mmm...air... |
| 06:48.39 | lurgy | and it's green and stuff |
| 06:48.50 | gonkulator | rioter: ask for exit rows |
| 06:48.51 | lurgy | though there are certain areas of the south we probably want to avoid |
| 06:48.54 | lurgy | like.. most of it.. |
| 06:48.56 | lurgy | ;) |
| 06:49.00 | slimspace | hehe |
| 06:49.11 | lurgy | florida's fun |
| 06:49.32 | gonkulator | s/too/to/ |
| 06:49.33 | slimspace | eh, I could take it or leave it. I have, er, family in Florida. |
| 06:49.35 | lurgy | hehe |
| 06:49.58 | rioter | gonkulator probably should have but when you travel with your family they usually clump you together |
| 06:50.14 | lurgy | slimspace: and you have to stay at a hotel where you can come downstairs in the morning and have a lady say "g'mornin y'all" in one o' them southern accents |
| 06:50.15 | gonkulator | my whole family is tall |
| 06:50.20 | gonkulator | cept my mom of course |
| 06:50.27 | slimspace | lurgy: that'd be great! |
| 06:50.28 | lurgy | heh, sounds like my family somehow.. |
| 06:50.45 | slimspace | my family's not so much tall as...round |
| 06:50.52 | lurgy | hehe |
| 06:50.59 | slimspace | and then there's me... |
| 06:51.12 | lurgy | bad slimspace |
| 06:51.21 | lurgy | being the slim sheep of the family and all |
| 06:51.36 | slimspace | hehe, I'm not complaining. Besides, I hear baldness is in my family. |
| 06:51.48 | scanline | hehe |
| 06:51.49 | lurgy | =) same here |
| 06:52.13 | gonkulator | not me! |
| 06:52.20 | slimspace | At my age, my grandfather on my dad's side was completely bald. |
| 06:52.20 | rioter | i know it is, my dads going bald, and when i visted my grandfather on my mums side, hes bald as something thats really bald |
| 06:52.25 | lurgy | yeah.. the biggest thing i notice when i go other places by plane is always the change in air pressure and stuff |
| 06:52.29 | lurgy | soooo much air.. |
| 06:52.40 | lurgy | it's all heavy and stuff |
| 06:52.57 | slimspace | I must experience this heavy air |
| 06:53.03 | scanline | biggest thing I notice when I utilize an airplane is all the expensive touristy junk at the airports |
| 06:53.20 | lurgy | rioter: you should fly up here (since you obviously love planes so much) and revel in the weight air is supposed to be |
| 06:53.27 | lurgy | scanline: heh, and then there's that |
| 06:53.47 | rioter | lurgy haha, i think your currently living higher than our highest mountain |
| 06:54.23 | lurgy | how high is your highest mountain? :) |
| 06:54.42 | gonkulator | if wishes were horses we would all be eating steak |
| 06:54.44 | rioter | 2000 meters or so |
| 06:55.21 | lurgy | rioter: not quite then, denver area is mostly around 1600 meters |
| 06:55.30 | rioter | close :P |
| 06:56.02 | lurgy | :) you'd have to be up in the mountains proper to really scare that away |
| 06:56.12 | lurgy | like up in Leadville |
| 06:56.45 | lurgy | 3094 meters =/ |
| 06:57.11 | purple_cow | even somewhere like nederland is a good bit higher than that |
| 06:57.33 | lurgy | heh, nederland |
| 06:57.36 | lurgy | what a hilarious town |
| 06:59.19 | purple_cow | oooh |
| 06:59.25 | purple_cow | blender 2.33a in portage |
| 06:59.43 | lurgy | boulder needs a dead guy on ice in a shed like nederland has |
| 07:00.07 | gonkulator | purple_cow: it doesn't emerge correctly though :( |
| 07:00.16 | gonkulator | gots to force the md5 |
| 07:00.30 | purple_cow | ooh |
| 07:00.32 | purple_cow | a UV editor |
| 07:00.44 | purple_cow | and the game engine =D |
| 07:01.01 | scanline | a new UV editor? |
| 07:01.43 | lurgy | bah, i wish i'd grown up in canada |
| 07:02.05 | lurgy | the history seems less psycho and nonsensical |
| 07:02.22 | gonkulator | the government is about 4 times worse though |
| 07:02.35 | scanline | I doubt that |
| 07:02.39 | lurgy | maybe could have done canadian history in high school in only one semester.. |
| 07:02.39 | gonkulator | maybe only twice as bad for someone who is used to boulder |
| 07:02.42 | lurgy | gonkulator: howso? |
| 07:02.55 | lurgy | it's somewhat socialized |
| 07:03.04 | lurgy | but most modern developed nations are nowadays |
| 07:03.22 | lurgy | (i guess the nowadays part was redundant, but.. ;p) |
| 07:03.44 | purple_cow | i wonder if gonkulator is perhaps considering things like "liberal drug laws" a bad thing |
| 07:03.51 | gonkulator | nah |
| 07:04.14 | gonkulator | he said that after taxes, only about half the money he earned was his, which isn't necessarily a bad thing |
| 07:04.23 | gonkulator | also, some of the church/state seperation stuff is bad there |
| 07:04.39 | gonkulator | as in, needing to be done |
| 07:04.46 | purple_cow | sweet |
| 07:04.51 | purple_cow | blender is moving towards scons :) |
| 07:04.53 | lurgy | yeah, most western countries aren't as picky about that as the US |
| 07:05.08 | lurgy | there was practically no separation in switzerland |
| 07:05.18 | gonkulator | that bothers me |
| 07:05.22 | scanline | purple_cow: neato |
| 07:05.22 | purple_cow | our government isn't very separated :P |
| 07:05.35 | lurgy | purple_cow: relative to other countries, it's very spearated |
| 07:05.41 | gonkulator | purple_cow: better than ohters |
| 07:05.45 | purple_cow | OMG |
| 07:05.46 | purple_cow | SO SEXY |
| 07:05.50 | purple_cow | http://www.blender3d.org/cms/Ramp_Shaders.348.0.html |
| 07:05.52 | scanline | gonkulator: the day they we have a president that doesn't believe in god I'll say separation of church and state was successful |
| 07:06.03 | gonkulator | thats not the point |
| 07:06.12 | gonkulator | the government shouldn't be funding churches |
| 07:06.12 | lurgy | scanline: that's missing the point of separation of church and state |
| 07:06.38 | gonkulator | and churches shouldn't be making foreign policy and handling other "government" duities |
| 07:06.53 | gonkulator | they have different purposes, different goals |
| 07:06.54 | scanline | The funding issue doesn't actually bother me as much as the fact that politicians assume everyone subscribes to the same religion |
| 07:06.59 | lurgy | the majority of the members of our government are christian, because the majority of the people in this country are christian |
| 07:07.09 | purple_cow | that and our commander in chief considers himself a holy warrior |
| 07:07.14 | scanline | hehe |
| 07:07.20 | lurgy | and more so for politicians from texas ;) |
| 07:08.04 | gonkulator | and no religion for someone in charge doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me either |
| 07:08.05 | gonkulator | hmm.... lagging |
| 07:08.21 | lurgy | scanline: the funding issue is a lot of what the separation is aimed at |
| 07:08.30 | lurgy | at least, nowadays |
| 07:08.52 | lurgy | but the separation of church and state is only a rule for the government |
| 07:09.03 | lurgy | nothing says that churches can't get involved in politics |
| 07:09.03 | scanline | I know.. and the funding is more important. It just isn't what I personally care about more ;) |
| 07:09.12 | lurgy | they certainly shouldn't.. but they can |
| 07:09.13 | lurgy | imho |
| 07:09.33 | gonkulator | scanline: just because you don't care doesn't make it not important :) |
| 07:09.54 | scanline | isn't that what I just said? |
| 07:10.04 | gonkulator | oh |
| 07:10.28 | scanline | nah, you can just read the beginning and the end, and make up whatever's in the middle |
| 07:10.45 | lurgy | heh |
| 07:11.29 | gonkulator | its also important that individuals gift the church with money... getting it from the government robs it of its sacraficial nature |
| 07:11.37 | gonkulator | which is important to me and nobody else here |
| 07:11.59 | scanline | ooh.. blender has ODE and OpenAL dependencies now |
| 07:12.03 | scanline | sweeet |
| 07:12.04 | lurgy | to an extent anyhow |
| 07:13.52 | lurgy | i just wish religious organizations would involve themselves less in government |
| 07:14.49 | lurgy | yeah, that's what i was thinking of.. |
| 07:15.07 | gonkulator | made me more than a little mad when I realized its ramifications |
| 07:15.13 | lurgy | i think over the last 220 or so years our government has done an admirable job of keeping its nose out of religion as a whole |
| 07:15.16 | lurgy | yeah |
| 07:16.17 | lurgy | it's ministers and priests preaching politics that bothers me.. sermons on who to vote for |
| 07:16.55 | lurgy | gonkulator: is it just me or is the Church making a bigger deal out of Kerry running than they did for Kennedy |
| 07:17.05 | gonkulator | hard to say |
| 07:17.35 | lurgy | i remember hearing stories about how protestants talking about how Kennedy was going to take orders directly from the pope |
| 07:17.44 | gonkulator | blah |
| 07:17.45 | lurgy | which was silly, obviously |
| 07:18.01 | lurgy | but this time i'm hearing more from catholics |
| 07:18.17 | lurgy | and almost exclusively because of his views on abortion |
| 07:18.26 | lurgy | (which is kind of silly anyways, cuz he can't do much about abortion..) |
| 07:18.43 | gonkulator | and not because he supports abortion (though that is part of it) its more because he doesn't actually have a stance on anything |
| 07:19.12 | scanline | as long as you don't vote for bush :P |
| 07:19.18 | lurgy | actually i kind of respect Kerry for that |
| 07:20.06 | gonkulator | respect Kerry for running for a position where he has to make decisions and doesn't actually have a stance (which would lead to a decision) |
| 07:20.34 | lurgy | i see a lot of politicians who seem to pick a position on an issue and then refuse to budge on it, even when a situation changes and their position doesn't make any sense |
| 07:20.44 | gonkulator | ah, yes |
| 07:20.47 | gonkulator | that is good |
| 07:21.03 | gonkulator | but the reason should be sound and not "I am being paid to waffle" |
| 07:21.07 | lurgy | i agree with a lot of kerry's voting record |
| 07:21.11 | lurgy | well |
| 07:21.20 | lurgy | i haven't seen any evidence he's been paid to waffle =p |
| 07:21.35 | lurgy | there could be some, i just haven't seen it |
| 07:22.17 | rioter | +\ncs\ |
| 07:22.18 | lurgy | i also respect what he did about 'nam, in disagreeing with the war but still fulfilling his civic duty when it became time |
| 07:22.47 | lurgy | rioter: hmm? :) |
| 07:23.27 | lurgy | i also don't really think he's gonna win, but oh well |
| 07:23.31 | lurgy | ;) |
| 07:23.50 | slimspace | quite honestly I'd be surprised if he doesn't. |
| 07:23.57 | lurgy | if he doesn't win? |
| 07:24.03 | slimspace | yeah |
| 07:24.23 | slimspace | Bush's approval rating isn't exactly high. |
| 07:24.24 | lurgy | how much TV have you seen lately |
| 07:24.40 | slimspace | not a whole lot |
| 07:25.09 | lurgy | the media paints him out as having no opinions of his own whatsoever |
| 07:25.16 | lurgy | but rarely actually reports on what he says |
| 07:25.25 | lurgy | which isn't totally fair |
| 07:25.38 | slimspace | True, but they do the same for Bush |
| 07:25.53 | lurgy | they paint bush out to be a kind of harmless baffoon who supports patriotism and family values |
| 07:25.57 | lurgy | which is enough to get him elected |
| 07:26.04 | lurgy | in all likelihood |
| 07:26.13 | lurgy | it got raegan elected.. =p |
| 07:26.15 | slimspace | well, we'll see, I suppose |
| 07:26.18 | gonkulator | heh, as fun as all the speculation is, its just that until November :) |
| 07:26.20 | lurgy | yep |
| 07:26.21 | slimspace | I won't be voting for him though |
| 07:26.57 | lurgy | now if Kerry pulled a Reagan and asked americans if they're better off now than they were 4 years ago, then *that* would be clever :) |
| 07:27.07 | lurgy | it wouldn't be fair |
| 07:27.09 | gonkulator | heh, people seem to have this crazy notion that imperialism is a bad thing |
| 07:27.10 | lurgy | but it would be clever |
| 07:27.23 | gonkulator | it was imperialism that made this country |
| 07:27.31 | gonkulator | it was again imperialism that made this country great |
| 07:27.41 | lurgy | it was imperialism that made this country powerful |
| 07:27.56 | gonkulator | and it will continue to be imperialism that makes it so that prosperity will continue |
| 07:28.03 | lurgy | i would dispute that it was imperialism that mde this country great ;) |
| 07:28.10 | gonkulator | but what is greatness? |
| 07:28.40 | lurgy | by my definition.. ideals, in this country |
| 07:29.00 | gonkulator | ah, you equate virtue with greatness |
| 07:29.36 | lurgy | pff |
| 07:29.42 | gonkulator | :-DS |
| 07:29.44 | gonkulator | er |
| 07:29.46 | gonkulator | :-D |
| 07:30.06 | lurgy | even that wasn't perfect, but it served us well until the Spanish-American war |
| 07:30.35 | lurgy | gonkulator: except that sooner or later the other countries will get pretty tired of the US exploiting them |
| 07:30.40 | lurgy | and that won't be pretty |
| 07:31.04 | gonkulator | yeah |
| 07:31.08 | scanline | ooh, an x-files episode in the "OMG lookit the scary computers!" genre |
| 07:31.14 | lurgy | heh |
| 07:31.14 | gonkulator | but thats quite a ways off |
| 07:31.23 | lurgy | uhhuh |
| 07:31.42 | gonkulator | look at the roman empire |
| 07:31.47 | lurgy | well, for our sake, i hope so, but for their sake, i hope not |
| 07:31.56 | lurgy | sure, the roman empire, the spanish empire, the british empire.. |
| 07:32.00 | rioter | lurgy, broken keyboard |
| 07:32.06 | lurgy | ^_^ |
| 07:32.07 | gonkulator | but the roman empire for specific now |
| 07:32.16 | lurgy | as good as any |
| 07:32.19 | lurgy | ;) |
| 07:32.32 | rioter | im part of the british empire, i feel special |
| 07:33.03 | lurgy | (though in some ways one could argue the american empire is as much like the greek economic empire as it is the roman empire, since the american one is both economic and military) |
| 07:33.06 | lurgy | more economic imho |
| 07:33.17 | lurgy | by a lot |
| 07:33.22 | gonkulator | military enough to be potent though |
| 07:33.27 | lurgy | yeah |
| 07:33.41 | lurgy | though certainly not large enough to control all the countries we control economically |
| 07:33.45 | lurgy | look at china.. =p |
| 07:34.02 | gonkulator | the point is, if you look at a graph of deaths in the world due to war, it was on a geometric increase until 1945, and then it dropped and has held steady |
| 07:34.14 | gonkulator | and everyone knows what happened in 1945 to cause that |
| 07:34.23 | lurgy | sure |
| 07:34.34 | lurgy | if the axis had won WWII it would have been about the same |
| 07:34.50 | gonkulator | and then it would be them in this position instead of us |
| 07:35.01 | lurgy | yep |
| 07:35.03 | gonkulator | and instead of having this conversation in english, it would be in german |
| 07:35.14 | lurgy | heh, well i doubt *that* |
| 07:35.30 | gonkulator | well, this conversation would be had by someone in some language |
| 07:35.47 | scanline | oh no, they switched the ground to the negative! |
| 07:35.50 | lurgy | maybe :) depending on the censorship |
| 07:35.55 | lurgy | but that's my point |
| 07:36.17 | lurgy | would germany or japan really be great there, or just powerful? |
| 07:36.45 | gonkulator | censorship isn't always a bad thing either... |
| 07:37.07 | gonkulator | prisons are censoring society of criminal behavior, no? |
| 07:37.18 | gonkulator | or, trying to at least |
| 07:37.35 | scanline | gonkulator: censorship is about ideas, speech.. things that can't directly harm anyone, and things that we have rights to |
| 07:37.43 | lurgy | heh, i suppose, for a very broad definition of censorship |
| 07:37.58 | lurgy | people are still allowed to talk to people in prisons though |
| 07:38.11 | rioter | bah my nose leeked onto my pants, and it looks like i took part in some other activity |
| 07:38.13 | lurgy | that's more of a restriction-of-rights thing imho |
| 07:38.20 | lurgy | heh |
| 07:38.35 | purple_cow | gonkulator: that's probably more "censure" than "censor" ;) |
| 07:38.38 | lurgy | and i certainly don't think everyone should have the right to do anything they want, since that would just be anarchy |
| 07:38.47 | gonkulator | purple_cow: are you gonna debate ideas or spellings? |
| 07:38.55 | purple_cow | gonkulator: they're two separate ideas |
| 07:39.10 | purple_cow | huh |
| 07:39.15 | purple_cow | so apparently eggplants are actually berries |
| 07:39.17 | lurgy | uh oh, it's going to go all semantic now |
| 07:39.20 | CIA-8 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r249 10dino/trunk/power/firmware/comm.asm: Implement the new request ID field in the power micro's comm code. This should now be compatible with the latest python code implementing the same protocol |
| 07:39.45 | lurgy | purple_cow: though i'd argue that censure is even further off.. |
| 07:40.13 | purple_cow | prison is a censure of criminal behavior, is it not? |
| 07:40.27 | lurgy | a censure is a "reproach or reprimand" |
| 07:40.47 | lurgy | prison is there to keep criminals away from society, not just to say "bad boy" =p |
| 07:40.50 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 07:40.55 | purple_cow | yay for discovering new, good music |
| 07:41.04 | CIA-8 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r250 10dino/trunk/fsw/TODO: Scratch asynchronous requests off the TODO list |
| 07:41.44 | lurgy | ravioli is the best music ever |
| 07:42.24 | purple_cow | yep |
| 07:42.37 | scanline | ooh, electro-wizards |
| 07:43.38 | scanline | I'm anxious to test this new protocol code on real radios now ;) |
| 07:44.56 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 07:45.17 | purple_cow | so doing some kind of eggplant ravioli seems like a great way to use both the wonton skins and the eggplant i have |
| 07:45.19 | scanline | oooh.. I need to write a kernel module that patches the open syscall to say "FILE OPENED!" in a booming voice |
| 07:45.25 | purple_cow | hehehe |
| 07:45.38 | scanline | which ruleset hack? |
| 07:45.49 | purple_cow | adding navi-misc/opencombat to #project24 |
| 07:45.52 | scanline | ah |
| 07:46.37 | purple_cow | mmm |
| 07:46.40 | purple_cow | what a weirdly cool song |
| 07:47.01 | purple_cow | /navi/media/audio/groups/Air/talkie_walkie/03_run.mp3 |
| 07:47.01 | scanline | ooh |
| 07:47.14 | scanline | it's a good thing that two recordings that sound way different have the same spectrogram |
| 07:47.32 | purple_cow | so you -know- it was #6 who said it |
| 07:47.56 | scanline | oooh |
| 07:48.02 | scanline | "Subfile> Access Control" |
| 07:48.13 | rioter | has anyone in here worked with pvm? |
| 07:49.34 | lurgy | sleeping time |
| 07:57.05 | scanline | these TV shows about artificial intelligence are hi-larious |
| 07:57.48 | rioter | http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,10198918%255E2702,00.html |
| 08:02.27 | purple_cow | heh |
| 08:02.28 | scanline | that's one ass-slow license plate reader |
| 08:13.32 | scanline | ooh, they've combed the parsing subroutine |
| 08:14.42 | scanline | it's a good thing they never think of unplugging the evil computers.. otherwise the show would have even less of a plot |
| 08:15.16 | scanline | wow, how'd it get late all of a sudden? |
| 08:16.28 | purple_cow | yay for crazy-weird french bands |
| 08:21.43 | slimspace | night everyone |
| 08:21.51 | scanline | g'night |
| 08:24.10 | rioter | hurray for free coffee |
| 08:25.18 | scanline | yay, free |
| 08:35.16 | ChipX86 | back |
| 08:35.18 | ChipX86 | g'night purple_cow |
