| 00:22.57 | scanline | wobble |
| 00:24.25 | scanline | wow |
| 00:24.34 | scanline | darth_mall: they have a space grant branch at fort lewis |
| 00:24.52 | scanline | "Current Projects: Fort Lewis Observatory" |
| 00:24.59 | scanline | no satellites :( |
| 00:26.05 | scanline | hmm, CSU also has a spacegrant.. and they've done a few DemoSats |
| 00:27.04 | scanline | <IHolsman> mml: maybe you can persude them to install mod_security or something? |
| 00:27.09 | scanline | <mml> iholsman: first they'd have to uninstall mod_asshat |
| 00:28.21 | TD | ChipX86: i think him and peter whatshisnamey are two of a kind ... |
| 00:30.45 | ChipX86 | wow, I can get TV on my cell phone. That's almost scary. |
| 00:31.22 | pagefault | thats interesting |
| 00:31.37 | ChipX86 | it's only a trial right now. I'd have to pay for it.. and it's slow |
| 00:31.58 | ChipX86 | and I have a demo of realplayer on it |
| 00:33.25 | ChipX86 | ooh I can program my phone with Java |
| 00:34.12 | TD | cool |
| 00:40.07 | pagefault | which phone did you get |
| 00:40.29 | ChipX86 | Sanyo PM-8200 |
| 00:41.11 | ChipX86 | http://www1.sprintpcs.com/explore/PhonesAccessories/PhoneDetails.jsp?navLocator=%7Cshop%7CphonesAccessories%7CallPhones%7C&selectSkuId=sanyopm8200&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=1476015&CURRENT_USER%3C%3EATR_SCID=ECOMM&CURRENT_USER%3C%3EATR_PCode=None&CURRENT_USER%3C%3EATR_cartState=group&bmUID=1089333655067 |
| 00:41.22 | pagefault | cool |
| 00:41.50 | ChipX86 | the speaker phone works so well |
| 00:42.05 | ChipX86 | combining that with voice dialing is kind of neat |
| 00:42.17 | ChipX86 | it also has a GPS chip :P |
| 00:42.33 | ChipX86 | I'm wondering if I can do something with that through a Java app |
| 00:43.27 | pagefault | hmm |
| 00:43.29 | pagefault | I can get the 8100 |
| 00:44.09 | ChipX86 | cute. Someone has debug output on the Sprint developer forums |
| 00:45.10 | pagefault | haw |
| 00:45.14 | CIA-6 | galago: 03chipx86 * r1005 10libgalago/.todo: Updated the todo a bit. |
| 00:45.38 | file | pagefault: check the e-mail on your pagefault@mystic.file-radio.com account |
| 00:45.45 | pagefault | what for |
| 00:45.50 | file | the spool file is 700MB |
| 00:45.55 | pagefault | what the hell |
| 00:46.11 | pagefault | I wonder what it could be |
| 00:46.18 | darth_mall | arg |
| 00:46.20 | darth_mall | that wasn't my license, just my debit card... |
| 00:46.20 | TD | ChipX86: you know, i'm wondering if we should add the knotify guys to our list of people to run notifications past |
| 00:46.28 | ChipX86 | TD: I think we should |
| 00:46.36 | ChipX86 | although the KDE people don't particularly seem to care about D-BUS and such |
| 00:46.41 | ChipX86 | (yet?) |
| 00:47.26 | CIA-6 | galago: 03chipx86 * r1006 10galago-daemon/.todo: TODO update. |
| 00:47.51 | TD | well |
| 00:47.58 | TD | i think they would like to drop libICE |
| 00:48.07 | TD | the thing is, DCOP works pretty well |
| 00:48.14 | TD | so for them DBUS isn't a big change |
| 00:48.42 | TD | it also means more work, as they'd need pretty extensive wrapping to make it as convenient for them as DCOP is |
| 00:48.43 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 00:48.49 | ChipX86 | yaeh |
| 00:48.58 | TD | DCOP is based on qt marshalling, for instance |
| 00:49.44 | TD | we'll see |
| 00:50.23 | purple_cow | darth_mall: i was wondering why your colorado license was coming from south dakota |
| 00:50.43 | TD | unfortunately the kde camp seem to be perceiving freedesktop as a "gnome thing" lately |
| 00:50.48 | TD | that's a bad perception for them to have |
| 00:50.53 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 00:50.56 | ChipX86 | it's really not a gnome thing |
| 00:51.03 | ChipX86 | the gnome guys are trying to get standards out there. That's not bad :) |
| 00:51.08 | scanline | TD: everything that doesn't use Qt is a "gnome thing" for a lot of them :P |
| 00:51.14 | ChipX86 | heh, yeah |
| 00:51.40 | scanline | the big problem is that since Qt is a do-everything framework, they get sucked into its mindset and refuse to use anything else |
| 00:51.44 | TD | right |
| 00:51.59 | TD | one other problem, is that historically they have implemented a lot of infrastructure in a rather fast and hacky way |
| 00:52.04 | TD | without really thinking it through |
| 00:52.06 | ChipX86 | yes. |
| 00:52.15 | TD | so when it's implemented for the first time in gnome, it's proposed as a spec at fdo |
| 00:52.21 | TD | so they see it as "gnome pushing their stuff onto us" |
| 00:52.26 | TD | no easy answer to that |
| 00:52.52 | scanline | I don't know why anyone still uses KDE :P |
| 00:53.13 | purple_cow | it is TOO FREAKING HOT |
| 00:53.18 | scanline | that too |
| 00:53.19 | TD | oh, some people like it |
| 00:53.22 | TD | there are good points to it |
| 00:53.36 | TD | if you are really keen on a must-have feature that gnome doesn't have, well ... |
| 00:54.38 | purple_cow | darth_mall: i found out what kaga says at the beginning of a match |
| 00:54.43 | purple_cow | "allez cuisine" |
| 00:54.52 | purple_cow | which makes it obvious why it was completely unintelligible |
| 00:55.01 | scanline | hehe |
| 00:56.08 | TD | also, kde/qt has a lot of nice technology in there. unfortunately it was written more as a "hey this is cool, let's do this!" thing rather than fully thinking it through and modularizing it |
| 00:56.23 | TD | for instance, choosing a DCOP type system over CORBA was apparently a smart move |
| 00:56.39 | purple_cow | (well, that combined with the fact that he has a really really thick tokyo accent) |
| 00:57.01 | scanline | ooh.. the back of this napkin tells me I should be getting some really nice refresh rates on this LED array with 16-level brightness |
| 00:57.04 | CIA-6 | galago: 03chipx86 * r1007 10libgalago/ (ChangeLog libgalago/galago-log.c libgalago/galago-log.h): Added galago_log_*() convenience wrappers. |
| 00:57.33 | purple_cow | if a napkin says it, it must be true |
| 00:58.01 | ChipX86 | napkins tell me to burn things |
| 00:58.10 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 00:58.16 | scanline | :) |
| 00:58.41 | scanline | I suppose then my brightness control is only limited by my RAM |
| 00:59.07 | scanline | hrm |
| 00:59.19 | scanline | 72 bytes for a 16x9 4-bit framebuffer |
| 00:59.26 | scanline | I guess that's as big as I'll want |
| 00:59.37 | scanline | ooh |
| 00:59.42 | scanline | but I can do gamma correction >:) |
| 01:00.16 | scanline | blah, I should clean my room before writing this software |
| 01:10.23 | CIA-6 | galago: 03chipx86 * r1008 10libgalago/ (ChangeLog libgalago/galago-log.h): Enable printf-style warnings for the log functions. |
| 01:11.36 | ChipX86 | Don't change that channel. Don't touch that dial! We've got it all on UHF! |
| 01:12.44 | *** join/#tacobeam laodamas (~laodamas@navi.cs.colorado.edu) |
| 01:17.44 | scanline | too hot... |
| 01:17.50 | ChipX86 | yes, it is |
| 01:25.17 | ChipX86 | any samba experts in the room tonight? |
| 01:33.22 | scanline | http://tim.timginn.com/ <-- neat, CIA commits on the left sidebar |
| 01:33.53 | ChipX86 | neat. I should do that |
| 01:34.15 | scanline | as much code as I've written for RSS, I really don't play with it enough |