| 00:01.48 | lurgyman | mmm |
| 00:01.54 | lurgyman | Catalini_Alfredo so sounds like a kind of pasta |
| 00:02.06 | purple_cow | indeed it does :) |
| 00:02.28 | file[desk] | I should download some MP3s to my MP3 player... alas I'll only have like 15 minutes to listen to it tomorrow morning though |
| 00:03.22 | pagefault | in a gadda da vida |
| 00:03.24 | pagefault | and you're done |
| 00:04.12 | purple_cow | OH NO! |
| 00:04.16 | file[desk] | I'm thinking Orbital's Halcyon & On two times actually |
| 00:04.17 | purple_cow | i think we missed the american astronaut :( |
| 00:06.27 | pagefault | insanity |
| 00:06.34 | pagefault | insanity |
| 00:06.35 | pagefault | or |
| 00:06.37 | file[desk] | pagefault: nooooooo |
| 00:06.39 | pagefault | is it |
| 00:06.49 | file[desk] | pagefault: is the answer 42? |
| 00:06.50 | kergoth | hmm, ibot needs a cost of living calculator |
| 00:06.53 | pagefault | could be |
| 00:06.59 | file[desk] | Goodbye, and thanks for all the fish |
| 00:07.02 | pagefault | I was really thinking about getting that vectra today |
| 00:07.14 | file[desk] | and what stopped you? |
| 00:07.24 | pagefault | I had class |
| 00:07.42 | file[desk] | well you could have gotten it afterwards, silly ecuse |
| 00:07.44 | file[desk] | er excuse |
| 00:07.52 | pagefault | yeah but then it would have been too late |
| 00:07.56 | pagefault | and I would just be getting back now |
| 00:08.04 | file[desk] | excuses! |
| 00:08.13 | file[desk] | who knows if there's even one there for poor pagefault |
| 00:08.22 | pagefault | i'm still wondering what is better |
| 00:08.32 | pagefault | tower or desktop kind |
| 00:08.42 | file[desk] | I want tower, you can have desktop |
| 00:08.48 | pagefault | if I get a desktop |
| 00:08.51 | pagefault | I can stack it in my shelf |
| 00:09.06 | file[desk] | indeed |
| 00:09.15 | pagefault | so many options |
| 00:09.23 | pagefault | so many options |
| 00:09.35 | pagefault | what to do |
| 00:09.49 | file[desk] | call and see which one is available? |
| 00:10.11 | pagefault | i'm going to the computer show on saturday though |
| 00:10.21 | file[desk] | decisions, decisions |
| 00:10.26 | pagefault | they might have one for $4.99 there |
| 00:10.36 | file[desk] | or $4.98! |
| 00:14.00 | pagefault | http://tv.yahooligans.yahoo.com/ |
| 00:14.02 | purple_cow | lurgyman: ok, i'm ready for you to start burning |
| 00:14.04 | pagefault | they have zelda cartoons |
| 00:14.05 | pagefault | but WMP |
| 00:14.06 | pagefault | :/ |
| 00:14.13 | purple_cow | if you could burn at a slightly slower speed than you did last time, it'd be hady |
| 00:14.16 | purple_cow | err, handy |
| 00:14.23 | purple_cow | since some of those you did got frobbed in the process |
| 00:16.01 | lurgyman | k |
| 00:16.10 | lurgyman | how far through the disk did they get frobbed? |
| 00:16.16 | lurgyman | (gives me an idea where to set the speed) |
| 00:16.18 | purple_cow | 2/3 maybe? |
| 00:17.16 | lurgyman | hmm |
| 00:17.16 | lurgyman | ok |
| 00:18.24 | purple_cow | hrm |
| 00:18.29 | purple_cow | transcode is 248% though pass 2 now |
| 00:19.19 | lurgyman | heh |
| 00:22.58 | lurgyman | through After the Fox? |
| 00:23.20 | pagefault | this new anime looks good |
| 00:23.26 | pagefault | he has a girl as his hand |
| 00:23.35 | cheers | trivia of hte day: Paris, France and Allen TX have hte same zipcode |
| 00:23.36 | Cae | as his hand? |
| 00:23.39 | pagefault | yeah |
| 00:24.03 | pagefault | his right hand is a girl |
| 00:24.03 | purple_cow | pagefault: which? |
| 00:24.07 | purple_cow | lurgyman: uhhuh |
| 00:24.18 | pagefault | midori no hibi |
| 00:24.20 | cheers | sure it's not just Vampire Hunter D? |
| 00:24.37 | purple_cow | GLURF |
| 00:24.38 | purple_cow | http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reports/5303/1/ |
| 00:24.50 | pagefault | I can send a trailer if you want it |
| 00:27.08 | purple_cow | pagefault: yes :) |
| 00:27.22 | pagefault | one sec |
| 00:27.23 | lurgyman | wow, nothing screams efficient like 3D & Java |
| 00:27.25 | pagefault | let me change my NAT settings |
| 00:27.34 | purple_cow | lurgyman: uhhuh |
| 00:27.45 | pagefault | hmm |
| 00:27.46 | purple_cow | i'll be able to write my papers 50% faster with spinning 3d thingies! |
| 00:27.58 | lurgyman | :) |
| 00:28.03 | pagefault | argh |
| 00:28.04 | pagefault | oh wait |
| 00:28.06 | pagefault | I know |
| 00:28.08 | pagefault | here |
| 00:28.11 | pagefault | here |
| 00:28.16 | lurgyman | yay for the updated flash plugin being scads more efficient |
| 00:28.17 | pagefault | now it will work |
| 00:28.18 | pagefault | :) |
| 00:28.21 | pagefault | here |
| 00:28.23 | pagefault | crap |
| 00:28.25 | pagefault | there |
| 00:28.46 | pagefault | I really need to set it up properly for DCC |
| 00:29.03 | pagefault | how about I just upload it somewhere for you |
| 00:29.09 | purple_cow | pagefault: got navi access? |
| 00:29.14 | pagefault | nope |
| 00:29.19 | purple_cow | username? |
| 00:29.35 | pagefault | pagefault |
| 00:31.05 | scanline | yay, good nap |
| 00:31.24 | purple_cow | mornin' scanline |
| 00:31.58 | scanline | hiya |
| 00:34.38 | lurgyman | hmm |
| 00:35.02 | lurgyman | we should rip the red dwarf dvds, so we have nice quality ones and we can force people to watch them |
| 00:35.39 | purple_cow | we have enough dvds to rip right now |
| 00:35.57 | lurgyman | heh |
| 00:35.59 | lurgyman | impossible |
| 00:36.00 | lurgyman | :P |
| 00:38.55 | lurgyman | purple_cow: :/ |
| 00:40.26 | pagefault | hmm |
| 00:40.30 | pagefault | I should reset my connection sometime |
| 00:40.34 | pagefault | PPPoE has been up for 2 months |
| 00:40.50 | purple_cow | lurgyman: worst case i just do it by hand |
| 00:40.55 | purple_cow | we still have the vob |
| 00:41.46 | scanline | yay for my dad's email humor |
| 00:41.53 | scanline | "Mom went back to sleep after Trev left (hear how quietly I'm typing?)" |
| 00:42.00 | file[desk] | lol |
| 00:42.02 | file[desk] | I called UPS |
| 00:42.10 | pagefault | what now |
| 00:42.10 | file[desk] | and she was like real confused over what she saw on my tracking |
| 00:42.54 | purple_cow | scanline: :) |
| 00:43.16 | pagefault | I got a package today |
| 00:43.17 | pagefault | $9 duty |
| 00:43.21 | pagefault | :/ |
| 00:43.23 | scanline | hmm, this is monday.. still need to fill out a timesheet |
| 00:43.33 | file[desk] | $0 on mine |
| 00:43.35 | cheers | could just not get paid |
| 00:43.44 | file[desk] | and it cleared today |
| 00:43.50 | pagefault | mine is just a t-shirt |
| 00:44.02 | pagefault | thats nuts though |
| 00:44.04 | file[desk] | that csr was real nice |
| 00:44.04 | pagefault | $9 duty |
| 00:44.08 | purple_cow | looks like i don't turn in a timesheet until next week |
| 00:44.15 | pagefault | on $20 USD |
| 00:44.18 | file[desk] | how was it shipped? |
| 00:44.21 | purple_cow | and i think i'm going to end up turning in 3 :P |
| 00:44.27 | *** join/#tacobeam carpman (carpman@66.169.220.162) |
| 00:44.28 | pagefault | USPS global priority |
| 00:44.39 | file[desk] | $5 service charge, $4 tax |
| 00:44.50 | pagefault | got here fast |
| 00:44.53 | pagefault | ordered it on thursday |
| 00:44.55 | file[desk] | http://abydos.file-radio.com/brokerage.html |
| 00:44.57 | pagefault | or it shipped then |
| 00:45.01 | file[desk] | that would have told you how much UPS would have charged |
| 00:45.13 | pagefault | wasn't expecting it until like friday |
| 00:45.41 | file[desk] | your stuff was worth $26.64 CAD |
| 00:46.10 | pagefault | the heck |
| 00:46.13 | pagefault | 21 bucks |
| 00:46.16 | pagefault | and they charge me 17? |
| 00:46.28 | file[desk] | yup. |
| 00:46.33 | pagefault | UPS is a rip off |
| 00:46.34 | file[desk] | that's accurate too |
| 00:47.04 | pagefault | UPS sucks |
| 00:47.24 | cheers | you think UPS sucks... try USPS. |
| 00:47.35 | pagefault | http://www.memolink.com/newreg/27_blockbuster/manage.cfm?regid=27&revPartnerID=1775 |
| 00:47.40 | file[desk] | cheers: I find USPS cheap and effective when going from US->Canada |
| 00:47.41 | pagefault | $50 blockbuster gift card |
| 00:47.45 | pagefault | for US residents |
| 00:47.47 | pagefault | for those that want it |
| 00:47.57 | cheers | pagefault: ??? |
| 00:48.17 | cheers | file[desk]: unless you're not home. then they make you jump through hoops to get your damn package |
| 00:48.26 | file[desk] | cheers: well this is Canada Post that delivers here |
| 00:48.28 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r3234 10bzedit/src/ (editor.c plugins.c scene.c scene.h): finish up implementation of scene initialization and sorting |
| 00:48.33 | scanline | cheers: I think everybody does that |
| 00:48.34 | pagefault | they tried to deliver mine |
| 00:48.36 | file[desk] | they leave a little note, and I get to walk to the end of the street and get it |
| 00:48.38 | pagefault | but then they said no one was home |
| 00:48.41 | pagefault | so now I have to go to the post office |
| 00:48.53 | cheers | scanline: nah, UPS & Fedex will leave it at my apt's office |
| 00:48.58 | cheers | where i cna pick it up at my leisure |
| 00:49.09 | file[desk] | UPS will deliver 3 times normally which I luv |
| 00:49.19 | file[desk] | and according to the CSR, my package will be delivered... tomorrow! |
| 00:49.55 | pagefault | how long did that take? |
| 00:50.01 | pagefault | like a week? |
| 00:50.07 | file[desk] | well this is ground from the US |
| 00:50.18 | melinda | I like ariborne express =o |
| 00:50.28 | file[desk] | shipped March 16th, delivery March 23rd |
| 00:50.36 | file[desk] | so a week |
| 00:50.47 | file[desk] | melinda: oh I love them, they don't care about customs here at all |
| 00:50.59 | pagefault | USPS doesn't care either |
| 00:51.18 | file[desk] | well US->Canada via USPS is basically random |
| 00:51.22 | file[desk] | you may or may not get charged |
| 00:51.35 | pagefault | it seems to depend if it's big or not |
| 00:51.41 | pagefault | if it's in a box |
| 00:51.43 | pagefault | you get charged |
| 00:51.47 | melinda | file[desk]: They're fast and cheap |
| 00:51.47 | pagefault | if it's in a bubble thing |
| 00:51.48 | file[desk] | well I shipped a laptop, and didn't get charged :) |
| 00:51.51 | pagefault | you don't get anything |
| 00:51.52 | pagefault | no tax |
| 00:52.05 | kergoth | holy shit are the real estate prices in cali insane |
| 00:52.07 | melinda | I think MysticOne is HOME! |
| 00:52.12 | melinda | Yay! ::poof:: |
| 00:53.17 | pagefault | purple_cow: done |
| 00:53.23 | pagefault | purple_cow: enjoy |
| 00:53.28 | pagefault | it starts airing in april |
| 00:53.49 | file[desk] | what's airing in april? |
| 00:53.56 | pagefault | this anime |
| 00:54.10 | file[desk] | oh goody, anime |
| 00:55.22 | pagefault | yes anime |
| 00:55.30 | *** join/#tacobeam lalo (~lalo@200227120147-dial-user-ECP.acessonet.com.br) |
| 00:55.33 | file | lalo! |
| 00:55.58 | pagefault | mee |
| 00:55.59 | pagefault | wee |
| 00:56.18 | file | pagefault: I command you to call Advantage Computers |
| 00:56.22 | Cae | yay, lalo! |
| 00:56.36 | pagefault | sure |
| 00:56.38 | pagefault | what do you want me to ask |
| 00:56.59 | file | What type of RAM the Vectra VE uses, is there any in stock for the online store |
| 00:57.07 | pagefault | ok |
| 00:57.14 | pagefault | well they are closed now |
| 00:57.17 | pagefault | so I will phone tomorrow |
| 00:57.27 | file | how do you know?!?!?! HOW? |
| 00:57.34 | pagefault | lucky guess? |
| 00:57.37 | pagefault | they probably close at 6 |
| 00:58.20 | file | guesses are bad |
| 00:58.42 | pagefault | you really want that computer |
| 00:58.44 | pagefault | don't you |
| 00:59.07 | file | I actually want the pen tablets, but since you're near it's fun to bug you |
| 00:59.16 | lalo | hi Cae |
| 00:59.32 | file | PackageBot: track dynapads |
| 00:59.36 | PackageBot | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:59.41 | pagefault | track money |
| 00:59.43 | file | ooooooooh that's good. |
| 01:00.43 | pagefault | so |
| 01:00.45 | pagefault | will you like |
| 01:00.50 | pagefault | draw |
| 01:00.50 | pagefault | or |
| 01:00.52 | pagefault | something |
| 01:00.53 | pagefault | with |
| 01:00.54 | pagefault | the pen |
| 01:01.04 | file | well yeah |
| 01:01.06 | file | obviously |
| 01:01.22 | pagefault | what will you draw |
| 01:01.26 | file | toast! |
| 01:01.32 | pagefault | how nice |
| 01:01.43 | file | indeed |
| 01:01.55 | lalo | Cae is happy to see me? if anything can improve my mood, that would be it |
| 01:01.56 | lalo | o.O |
| 01:03.56 | Cae | lol |
| 01:04.56 | pagefault | I hate telus |
| 01:05.06 | pagefault | they are increasing text messages to 15 cents each |
| 01:05.09 | file | hahahahaha |
| 01:05.16 | file | what were they before? |
| 01:05.21 | pagefault | 10 cents |
| 01:05.31 | file | silly Telus |
| 01:05.35 | pagefault | well |
| 01:05.37 | pagefault | I am going to ditch them |
| 01:05.39 | pagefault | next phone I buy |
| 01:05.53 | file | and going with who? |
| 01:06.03 | pagefault | no idea |
| 01:06.18 | file | ooh Austin Powers |
| 01:06.24 | pagefault | on TBS |
| 01:06.25 | pagefault | right? |
| 01:06.29 | file | yes |
| 01:06.35 | pagefault | they like to show that a billion times |
| 01:06.42 | file | I never get sick of it |
| 01:06.51 | file | it's The Spy Who Shagged Me |
| 01:06.52 | pagefault | I wonder if they censor it |
| 01:06.59 | pagefault | fox did that once |
| 01:07.02 | pagefault | they really messed it up |
| 01:07.09 | file | haha |
| 01:07.16 | pagefault | they changed alottavagina |
| 01:07.17 | pagefault | to like |
| 01:07.22 | pagefault | alottahugsandkisses |
| 01:07.23 | pagefault | or something stuf |
| 01:07.26 | file | yuck |
| 01:07.26 | pagefault | err stupid |
| 01:07.44 | pagefault | yeah |
| 01:07.57 | file | that guy has a Philips Nino in his hand I do believe |
| 01:08.31 | pagefault | the 3rd |
| 01:08.32 | pagefault | was odd |
| 01:08.38 | pagefault | they didn't explain what happened to felicity |
| 01:08.41 | file | haha |
| 01:09.06 | pagefault | 2nd is the best |
| 01:09.12 | file | well then watch |
| 01:09.15 | pagefault | I will |
| 01:09.19 | pagefault | I go to channel 49 now |
| 01:09.39 | file | not now? two minutes ago! |
| 01:09.53 | pagefault | silly file |
| 01:10.02 | pagefault | I hope this is better than planet of the apes |
| 01:10.08 | file | perhaps |
| 01:10.22 | pagefault | I think planet of the apes had slightly better fake backgrounds |
| 01:10.45 | file | darn I missed the Vanessa part... |
| 01:11.01 | pagefault | boobies |
| 01:11.44 | file | Ivana, Ivana Humpalot |
| 01:13.11 | pagefault | thanks |
| 01:13.13 | pagefault | those are expensive |
| 01:13.26 | pagefault | you know |
| 01:13.27 | file | it's a picture of one |
| 01:13.35 | pagefault | I can get 1 month of hosting or a cup of coffee from starbucks |
| 01:13.46 | file | oooooooooh |
| 01:14.05 | pagefault | I love when they say |
| 01:14.09 | pagefault | quality coffee at affordable prices |
| 01:14.12 | pagefault | hehe |
| 01:14.34 | scanline | "It's technically coffee, and only requires a small bank loan!" |
| 01:14.40 | kergoth | heh. affordable is a relative term |
| 01:14.43 | file | I shall call him, mini me! |
| 01:14.54 | pagefault | hehe |
| 01:15.49 | file | I love how number two says that |
| 01:15.54 | file | Moooooooojo? |
| 01:16.07 | pagefault | yes |
| 01:16.09 | pagefault | "time machine" |
| 01:16.36 | file | why make trillions when we can make billions? |
| 01:17.19 | pagefault | the feed got messed up here |
| 01:17.30 | file | didn't for me, HA |
| 01:18.00 | pagefault | haw |
| 01:18.03 | pagefault | the donuts on the table |
| 01:18.18 | file | Don't be scared, Mini-me. |
| 01:18.38 | pagefault | I wonder how they found him |
| 01:18.42 | pagefault | he is like a perfect match |
| 01:18.45 | pagefault | the young number 2 |
| 01:19.01 | file | dunno |
| 01:19.11 | pagefault | hehe devo |
| 01:19.15 | pagefault | with the hats |
| 01:19.50 | pagefault | I need the clapper |
| 01:20.53 | file | grrrr to get a NIC is an extra $20 in shipping |
| 01:21.17 | pagefault | throw me some |
| 01:21.18 | pagefault | I am hungry |
| 01:21.44 | pagefault | yum |
| 01:22.02 | file | bbs |
| 01:22.02 | pagefault | whats with this commentary |
| 01:22.33 | pagefault | yes |
| 01:22.39 | pagefault | I need to rewire something |
| 01:22.40 | pagefault | bbs |
| 01:23.50 | purple_cow | ~stab sun for trying to say that 3d effects make UIs more efficient |
| 01:23.52 | jbot | ACTION runs at sun for trying to say that 3d effects make UIs more efficient with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 01:23.58 | scanline | hehe |
| 01:26.35 | purple_cow | GRR |
| 01:26.37 | *** join/#tacobeam lalo_ (~lalo@200.102.125.200) |
| 01:26.42 | purple_cow | it looks like a fun project to work on |
| 01:26.45 | purple_cow | but...GRR |
| 01:27.22 | lurgyman | heh |
| 01:27.57 | file | uh huh |
| 01:29.30 | lalo | sigh |
| 01:29.52 | lurgyman | :( |
| 01:32.46 | purple_cow | grrrr |
| 01:33.27 | lurgyman | :/ |
| 01:35.09 | gonkulator | file: I'm stealing it rightfully |
| 01:36.22 | gonkulator | MysticOne: whaz up?? |
| 01:36.39 | MysticOne | the temperature of the oil that our finch fies are cooking in! |
| 01:37.12 | MysticOne | brb |
| 01:37.40 | file | silly gonkulator |
| 01:37.45 | lalo | finch fies? |
| 01:37.57 | *** join/#tacobeam MysticOne (mysticone@mysticone.usercloak.freenode) |
| 01:37.59 | file | french fries! |
| 01:38.22 | MysticOne | home made too! |
| 01:38.27 | MysticOne | by melinda nad me :) |
| 01:38.30 | file | gimme some |
| 01:38.41 | file | pretty please ;) |
| 01:41.10 | Cae | hm. |
| 01:41.23 | Cae | that's the first church commercial that I wasn't completely offended by. |
| 01:41.30 | Cae | methodists. go figure. |
| 01:41.55 | lurgyman | hehe |
| 01:50.50 | gonkulator | they called it 'al-orgasims" |
| 01:51.12 | gonkulator | that is almost funnier than algorizims |
| 01:55.58 | MysticOne | Cae: methodists are actually pretty mellow |
| 01:56.02 | MysticOne | Cae: that's how I was raised |
| 01:57.22 | Cae | well, I would've fallen out of my chair if it'd been the baptists |
| 01:57.29 | MysticOne | :) |
| 01:57.38 | MysticOne | I mean, I grew up and said "Noooo, this isn't what I want" |
| 01:57.47 | MysticOne | but, as far as most of it goes... it's pretty laid back |
| 01:58.08 | MysticOne | basically be a good person, believe in God and believe that Jesus died for your sins, and ... that's about it |
| 01:58.14 | Cae | lol |
| 01:58.15 | MysticOne | salvation by faith and good works |
| 01:58.34 | MysticOne | we had openly gay people at the church too and that wasn't a problem |
| 01:58.54 | MysticOne | my grandmother's baptist church found out one of their members was gay and kicked him out |
| 01:59.03 | lurgyman | as opposed to the Baptist church, where you get salvation through voting conservative |
| 01:59.12 | MysticOne | hehe |
| 01:59.12 | lurgyman | yeah |
| 01:59.24 | MysticOne | I think baptist is generally savlation through trying to conver everyone else |
| 01:59.43 | MysticOne | almost like Mormons or Jehovah's Witnesses, but ... much more pushy and mean |
| 01:59.52 | Cae | yeah |
| 02:00.32 | lalo | bbl |
| 02:00.32 | MysticOne | but, obviously, they're not all like that |
| 02:00.32 | lurgyman | bye lalo |
| 02:00.32 | MysticOne | my grandmother, hardcore southern baptist, is very open and understanding most of the time |
| 02:00.41 | MysticOne | melinda's parents are the same way, though I think her mother was originally catholic |
| 02:00.52 | melinda | MysticOne: No |
| 02:00.58 | lurgyman | hehehe |
| 02:01.08 | MysticOne | melinda: wait, what? |
| 02:01.28 | melinda | MysticOne: My mum is still catholic, just not practicing, but she didn't switch over to baptist |
| 02:01.34 | MysticOne | ohhh |
| 02:01.34 | MysticOne | okay |
| 02:02.02 | MysticOne | anyway, your parents are laid back |
| 02:02.02 | MysticOne | :D |
| 02:02.02 | melinda | my parents are like southern hippies minus the pot |
| 02:04.01 | lurgyman | hehe |
| 02:04.05 | lurgyman | southern hippies |
| 02:04.14 | scanline | mmm |
| 02:04.20 | scanline | I forgot how much fun those things are |
| 02:05.11 | lurgyman | southern hippies? |
| 02:05.15 | scanline | bikes |
| 02:05.58 | lurgyman | oh |
| 02:08.45 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r3235 10bzedit/ (10 files in 3 dirs): well, it isn't crashing, but it isn't drawing either |
| 02:12.51 | scanline | nope |
| 02:13.43 | purple_cow | i don't see why this isn't drawing |
| 02:15.12 | scanline | hmm.. lego mindstorms laser diode... |
| 02:15.14 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r3236 10bzedit/src/plugins/world.c: oops, since it doesn't help debugging, make the ground a static drawable again |
| 02:15.20 | file | scanline: you're awake? scary |
| 02:15.28 | scanline | file: yes, I'm awake |
| 02:15.40 | file | scanline: but how do you know you're awake? |
| 02:15.44 | lurgyman | file: no, he's not |
| 02:16.11 | purple_cow | there's no reason this should be giving me black :( |
| 02:16.22 | lurgyman | bzedit? |
| 02:16.25 | purple_cow | yeah |
| 02:16.31 | lurgyman | :'( |
| 02:16.41 | purple_cow | seems to be rebuilding display lists as appropriate and calling them |
| 02:16.44 | purple_cow | but no love |
| 02:17.16 | scanline | tried drawing a simple triangle or something along with the display lists to make sure your OpenGL state (especially lighting) is sane? |
| 02:17.27 | purple_cow | hmm, lighting |
| 02:17.45 | lurgyman | no lighting allowed! |
| 02:18.48 | scanline | ooh, or I could tape the button down and jam an alligator clip in |
| 02:18.56 | scanline | since it looks like they glued the diode assembly into this tube |
| 02:19.20 | cheers | whee, reading gnu.org today |
| 02:22.02 | lurgyman | hehe |
| 02:23.16 | purple_cow | eek |
| 02:23.18 | purple_cow | up to 22 GObjects |
| 02:24.30 | MysticOne | mmmmmm |
| 02:24.32 | MysticOne | home made fries! |
| 02:24.34 | MysticOne | so yummmmmmmy |
| 02:31.42 | cheers | wheee! Gir's my adium-icon! :D |
| 02:33.45 | juanvaldes | your welcome :p |
| 02:33.52 | cheers | :D:D |
| 02:34.02 | cheers | he's even eating a cupcake! :D |
| 02:34.30 | lurgyman | mm, cupcake |
| 02:35.03 | cheers | I miss you cupcake! |
| 02:37.26 | ChipX86 | DDR fun. |
| 02:37.33 | gonkulator | DDR is *great* fun |
| 02:37.34 | ChipX86 | first time playing. Now broke. |
| 02:37.48 | cheers | pfft |
| 02:37.52 | cheers | ddr == fun? |
| 02:38.03 | cheers | but then, for a musician, I have horrible rhythm when dancing |
| 02:38.14 | ChipX86 | I did alright. Not great. |
| 02:38.23 | ChipX86 | I found out that there's a girl in the harem that is interested in me :/ |
| 02:38.32 | cheers | you look so excited about this... |
| 02:38.39 | cheers | not a mutual sentiment? |
| 02:38.43 | ChipX86 | I don't know who it is |
| 02:38.50 | cheers | oh |
| 02:38.52 | cheers | that sucks |
| 02:38.56 | ChipX86 | nor do I particularly want to date for awhile |
| 02:38.59 | kergoth | heh |
| 02:39.17 | cheers | I thought you said just yesterday you were ready to date again?!? |
| 02:39.22 | cheers | and y'all say women are fickle ;) |
| 02:39.48 | ChipX86 | well, I'm getting ready to, but I don't want to |
| 02:39.58 | cheers | lol |
| 02:40.04 | cheers | ChipX86: you're not making sense. |
| 02:40.27 | kergoth | ChipX86: most of us dont get ready to do something we dont want to do, unless we have to :P |
| 02:40.39 | ChipX86 | emotionally, I'm getting in the state where I'd be able to and would start thinking about it, but I don't actually plan to be doing it |
| 02:41.07 | cheers | aah |
| 02:45.44 | scanline | so, I seem to have successfully broken my $6 laser pointer |
| 02:45.58 | scanline | I'll have to pick up a replacement soon and build one of these: http://www.rawbw.com/~maznliz/marius/rcxlaser.shtml |
| 02:46.54 | scanline | or maybe I'll just finally build a laser projector, like I've been trying to on and off for the last 10 years |
| 02:47.43 | scanline | I have no idea how quickly one can turn the cheap laser pointers on and off though |
| 02:51.18 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r3237 10bzedit/ (8 files in 3 dirs): add lights, still not drawing. grr. |
| 02:51.48 | scanline | hrm |
| 02:51.50 | scanline | src/plugins.c:42: error: `G_MODULE_BIND_LOCAL' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 02:52.58 | purple_cow | that's a little...weird |
| 02:53.30 | purple_cow | file:///usr/share/gtk-doc/html/glib/glib-Dynamic-Loading-of-Modules.html#GModuleFlags |
| 02:53.45 | file | eh? |
| 02:53.55 | scanline | I only see BIND_LAZY |
| 02:53.58 | purple_cow | hrm |
| 02:54.01 | purple_cow | guess that's new |
| 02:54.42 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r3238 10bzedit/src/ (plugins/box.h plugins.c): don't use new binding enum |
| 02:55.30 | scanline | huh... |
| 02:55.31 | scanline | <pyrobunny> is bzflag.org/league open source? |
| 02:55.31 | scanline | <scanline> why are you /msg'ing me? I have no idea |
| 02:55.43 | purple_cow | heh |
| 02:56.25 | kergoth | heh |
| 02:58.25 | scanline | purple_cow: I can't find where you're setting up the perspective matrix |
| 02:58.30 | purple_cow | hmm! |
| 02:59.13 | *** join/#tacobeam pagefault (~pagefault@Toronto-HSE-ppp3857673.sympatico.ca) |
| 02:59.17 | file | omg it's pagefault |
| 02:59.28 | cheers | eeek! |
| 02:59.29 | pagefault | omg it's file |
| 02:59.33 | scanline | if you're still having trouble after you look at that, you might try disabling lighting, culling, and the depth test- just in case one of those is the problem |
| 03:02.07 | ChipX86 | this should be fun |
| 03:02.12 | ChipX86 | the SIFE girl is asking if I did the site yet |
| 03:02.52 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r3239 10bzedit/src/editor.c: set the perspective matrix |
| 03:03.25 | purple_cow | still no love :( |
| 03:03.43 | pagefault | fat bastard |
| 03:03.45 | pagefault | he has your package file |
| 03:03.47 | ChipX86 | she's not too happy, but oh well |
| 03:04.01 | file | nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 03:04.08 | pagefault | he works for UPS |
| 03:04.36 | purple_cow | ChipX86: who cares? when they're paying you they can be unhappy |
| 03:04.40 | ChipX86 | yeah. |
| 03:04.44 | cheers | ChipX86: tell her to f off? |
| 03:04.45 | cheers | ;) |
| 03:04.56 | ChipX86 | just my "I like to help people" part of me that I really hate sometimes |
| 03:05.59 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r3240 10bzedit/src/plugins/box.h: whoops |
| 03:06.07 | scanline | yay... my fundamental matrix and epipole are full of NaN |
| 03:06.12 | cheers | gotta love commit notes like that :) |
| 03:06.17 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 03:07.11 | ChipX86 | I should have gone to the BBQ last night... it was apparently very fun |
| 03:08.01 | scanline | apparently my cameras have a focal length of around 730 pixels |
| 03:10.29 | pagefault | br |
| 03:10.31 | pagefault | b |
| 03:10.32 | pagefault | brb |
| 03:10.56 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r3241 10vision/src/camera_calibrator.cpp: Only calibrate using every 30th accepted frame, so the user has a chance to reorient the checkerboard between samples |
| 03:12.48 | *** join/#tacobeam pagefault (~pagefault@Toronto-HSE-ppp3857673.sympatico.ca) |
| 03:13.04 | pagefault | what not |
| 03:13.06 | pagefault | now |
| 03:13.13 | pagefault | re topic |
| 03:13.33 | cheers | :shrug: |
| 03:14.56 | cheers | if i fall offline, it's 'cuz I'm molesting my networking |
| 03:15.08 | file | I hope it doesn't take it personally |
| 03:15.20 | cheers | well that all depends, I guess ;) |
| 03:15.27 | pagefault | hmm |
| 03:15.28 | pagefault | bed |
| 03:15.29 | pagefault | or not to bed |
| 03:15.50 | cheers | sleepy? |
| 03:15.55 | purple_cow | mmm, what a great band |
| 03:16.13 | pagefault | maybe transfer to laptop |
| 03:16.15 | pagefault | and go to bed |
| 03:18.00 | purple_cow | grr, i need to stop buying this ham |
| 03:18.03 | purple_cow | it's such utter crap |
| 03:18.30 | file | no sleep |
| 03:18.34 | pagefault | I am going to lappy |
| 03:18.36 | pagefault | bbl |
| 03:19.13 | *** join/#tacobeam merlin{Yokohama} (~andrew@wbar15.dal1-4-13-152-214.dsl-verizon.net) |
| 03:19.35 | merlin{Yokohama} | carpman! |
| 03:20.35 | gonkulator | hey merlin{Yokohama} |
| 03:21.25 | ChipX86 | who wants to play doormud? |
| 03:22.15 | ChipX86 | MysticOne: ping |
| 03:22.18 | *** join/#tacobeam pagefault (~pagefault@Toronto-HSE-ppp3857673.sympatico.ca) |
| 03:22.22 | *** part/#tacobeam pagefault (~pagefault@Toronto-HSE-ppp3857673.sympatico.ca) |
| 03:22.23 | ChipX86 | hey pagefault |
| 03:22.25 | ChipX86 | bye pagefault |
| 03:22.27 | *** join/#tacobeam pagefault (~pagefault@Toronto-HSE-ppp3857673.sympatico.ca) |
| 03:22.28 | pagefault | ok |
| 03:22.29 | ChipX86 | hey pagefault |
| 03:22.32 | pagefault | mobile fun |
| 03:22.38 | pagefault | isn't wireless wonderful |
| 03:22.41 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 03:22.44 | Cae | ChipX86: send him to me after I get to scarborough |
| 03:22.44 | ChipX86 | I'm hopping into doormud |
| 03:22.51 | pagefault | nice |
| 03:22.52 | Cae | because then I'll have my sword |
| 03:22.52 | pagefault | I will join yopu |
| 03:22.55 | ChipX86 | Cae: ok. Huh? |
| 03:22.58 | ChipX86 | Cae: cool |
| 03:23.03 | ChipX86 | Cae: oh my brother. Excellent. |
| 03:23.32 | file | pagefault detected, commencing implosion event |
| 03:23.51 | *** part/#tacobeam pagefault (~pagefault@Toronto-HSE-ppp3857673.sympatico.ca) |
| 03:23.58 | *** join/#tacobeam pagefault (~pagefault@Toronto-HSE-ppp3857673.sympatico.ca) |
| 03:24.00 | gonkulator | file: don't implode on pagefault |
| 03:24.03 | pagefault | he can't |
| 03:24.04 | pagefault | I left |
| 03:24.05 | purple_cow | Cae: sword? :) |
| 03:24.06 | pagefault | hehe |
| 03:24.20 | ChipX86 | eep |
| 03:24.29 | ChipX86 | I only have 58 minutes? or is that to deposit? |
| 03:24.34 | ChipX86 | oh it's to deposit |
| 03:24.39 | kergoth | heh |
| 03:24.41 | Cae | tulwar |
| 03:24.44 | scanline | ooh, results from the tracker |
| 03:24.55 | ChipX86 | Cae: wanna play? |
| 03:25.04 | pagefault | man |
| 03:25.06 | kergoth | Cae: tulwar.. thats indian, isnt it? |
| 03:25.08 | pagefault | LCD is nice |
| 03:25.10 | pagefault | for text |
| 03:25.16 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 03:25.38 | ChipX86 | cheers: doormud? |
| 03:25.50 | pagefault | ugh |
| 03:25.51 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r3242 10vision/src/tracker.cpp: |
| 03:25.51 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Use camera intrinsics (focal length, principal point, and distortion matrix) |
| 03:25.51 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: from camera_calibrator, but calibrate camera orientation using |
| 03:25.51 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: cv3dTrackerCalibrateCameras() on startup. This requires holding up a |
| 03:25.51 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: checkerboard before starting to use the tracker, but it actually seems to be |
| 03:25.52 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: working properly now. yay. |
| 03:25.53 | pagefault | can't get mysticone's ip |
| 03:25.56 | ChipX86 | 209.218.68.91 |
| 03:26.01 | Cae | kergoth: yes |
| 03:26.03 | kergoth | bleh. headache again. |
| 03:26.04 | ChipX86 | I aliased it in /etc/hosts to mysticonebbs :) |
| 03:26.04 | pagefault | thankie |
| 03:26.13 | pagefault | nooo |
| 03:26.15 | pagefault | connection refused |
| 03:26.22 | ChipX86 | : |
| 03:26.22 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 03:26.23 | ChipX86 | works here |
| 03:26.28 | pagefault | oh wait |
| 03:26.30 | pagefault | was using ssh |
| 03:26.31 | pagefault | stupid me |
| 03:26.32 | cheers | hmm? |
| 03:26.37 | cheers | sorry, I'm doing HW |
| 03:26.40 | ChipX86 | ok |
| 03:26.57 | cheers | watching the license discussion in #adium, too |
| 03:27.33 | pagefault | oh no file is stalking me |
| 03:27.36 | pagefault | he is on node 3 |
| 03:27.57 | gonkulator | ChipX86: what does the + next to your name mean in #adium? |
| 03:28.03 | ChipX86 | voiced |
| 03:28.10 | cheers | that means if they +m, he can still talk |
| 03:28.11 | gonkulator | ah |
| 03:28.16 | cheers | he's spethal |
| 03:28.17 | cheers | ;) |
| 03:28.21 | ChipX86 | I'm a gaim devel. They like gaim devels, for obvious reasons |
| 03:28.23 | pagefault | err |
| 03:28.24 | pagefault | ChipX86 |
| 03:28.38 | ChipX86 | i'll recall |
| 03:29.53 | purple_cow | hrm, so scanline |
| 03:30.00 | file | grrr I can't follow... |
| 03:30.02 | purple_cow | after fixing the camera elevation such that it sees the triangle |
| 03:30.07 | pagefault | grrrrrr |
| 03:30.14 | purple_cow | it still doesn't draw the ground :( |
| 03:31.09 | pagefault | cheers should join |
| 03:31.14 | pagefault | we can have a 4 way |
| 03:31.27 | cheers | pagefault: sounds kinky |
| 03:31.37 | pagefault | it can be |
| 03:31.39 | pagefault | it is a mud |
| 03:31.39 | cheers | but i really DO have to pull a page on copyleft & MS out of my ass |
| 03:31.41 | pagefault | anything can happen |
| 03:31.58 | file | haha |
| 03:32.29 | cheers | then have some java gui to molest into behaving. :/ |
| 03:33.22 | purple_cow | eww, java gui |
| 03:33.44 | gonkulator | purple_cow: sorry :( |
| 03:34.41 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r3243 10bzedit/src/ (editor.c plugins/basicrenderpass.c plugins/world.c scene.c): add a debug quad, fix some camera angles, and scream a bit |
| 03:36.01 | ChipX86 | hrmmm |
| 03:36.34 | ChipX86 | I wonder when MF comes back |
| 03:37.33 | cheers | MF? |
| 03:37.49 | ChipX86 | monster fights |
| 03:37.59 | ChipX86 | 18 left. When it hits 0, I have to wait until it replenishes |
| 03:38.00 | purple_cow | most musicians just don't have it, they'd sell their souls to buy a tune, they buy a nice guitar 'till they're better than they are and their egos start to bloom... |
| 03:38.00 | ChipX86 | which is daily, I believe |
| 03:38.13 | cheers | that's right |
| 03:38.40 | purple_cow | gotta love indie musicians singing about how everyone else sucks :) |
| 03:41.33 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r3244 10vision/src/tracker.cpp: Indicate with a red X or green check whether each camera can see the checkerboard |
| 03:44.47 | *** mode/#tacobeam [+o scanline] by ChanServ |
| 03:45.00 | *** mode/#tacobeam [+b teh!*@*] by scanline |
| 03:45.07 | *** kick/#tacobeam [teh!~micah@scanline.active.supporter.pdpc] by scanline (scanline) |
| 03:45.12 | *** mode/#tacobeam [-o scanline] by scanline |
| 03:45.17 | scanline | barbeque jacket? |
| 03:45.18 | cheers | lol |
| 03:45.20 | purple_cow | that's a wrap |
| 03:45.25 | purple_cow | big boot o' justice |
| 03:45.28 | scanline | ooh, neat |
| 03:45.36 | cheers | the hammer ;) |
| 03:45.50 | *** join/#tacobeam gonkulator (~brandon@c-24-9-213-236.client.comcast.net) |
| 03:45.52 | gonkulator | bah |
| 03:45.56 | file | hum bug |
| 03:46.20 | purple_cow | scanline: you'll see pat arm the BBJ every so often in #bzflag |
| 03:46.31 | scanline | mmm, arm |
| 03:46.45 | purple_cow | yep |
| 03:46.46 | pagefault | humbug? |
| 03:46.52 | purple_cow | afaict it's got a crossbow-style crank |
| 03:47.06 | scanline | ooh |
| 03:47.08 | scanline | neat |
| 03:47.13 | purple_cow | so, any other ideas? ;) |
| 03:47.16 | cheers | wb gonkulator ;) |
| 03:47.22 | purple_cow | it's drawing the quad fine |
| 03:47.27 | gonkulator | thanks cheers |
| 03:47.27 | purple_cow | right where the ground ought to be |
| 03:47.28 | purple_cow | but no ground |
| 03:47.50 | file | 2 more days of classes! booya |
| 03:47.52 | pagefault | oops |
| 03:47.57 | pagefault | need to recharge battery |
| 03:48.01 | pagefault | like 20 min left |
| 03:48.01 | merlin{Yokohama} | lol @ gonkulator getting 'teh' boot |
| 03:48.02 | pagefault | heh |
| 03:48.04 | purple_cow | ooh i just got an idear |
| 03:48.05 | scanline | purple_cow: maybe you're looking at the back of it and it's being culled? |
| 03:48.12 | gonkulator | merlin{Yokohama}: don't even joke ;0 |
| 03:49.02 | purple_cow | scanline: culling is off |
| 03:49.05 | scanline | ah |
| 03:49.29 | purple_cow | well, i found one problem, but still no love |
| 03:50.03 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r3245 10bzedit/src/displaylist.c: make sure the call to glGenLists() occurs after the opengl context exists |
| 03:50.26 | purple_cow | =} |
| 03:50.34 | scanline | :) |
| 03:51.01 | purple_cow | i've never had this much trouble getting something to draw on the damned screen |
| 03:51.13 | scanline | it happens |
| 03:51.13 | cheers | use a sharpie? ;) |
| 03:51.28 | purple_cow | ooh |
| 03:51.38 | purple_cow | hmm, neat |
| 03:54.17 | ChipX86 | manticore BAD |
| 03:54.38 | ChipX86 | forgive the small paste.. just gives you an idea of how manticode BAD |
| 03:54.41 | ChipX86 | Manticore shoots you with a tail spike for 3 damage! |
| 03:54.41 | ChipX86 | Manticore shoots you with a tail spike for 5 damage! |
| 03:54.41 | ChipX86 | Manticore shoots you with a tail spike for 3 damage! |
| 03:54.41 | ChipX86 | Manticore shoots you with a tail spike for 4 damage! |
| 03:54.47 | cheers | oh dear |
| 03:54.59 | cheers | weren't we looking for one of those, before? |
| 03:55.11 | ChipX86 | yeah, I got confused.. manticore is elsewhere... and deadly. |
| 03:57.13 | ChipX86 | killed it! |
| 03:57.20 | cheers | w00t |
| 03:58.15 | pagefault | ow |
| 03:58.17 | ChipX86 | eep another |
| 03:58.27 | ChipX86 | this is the kind of monster you want a party for |
| 04:00.02 | file | pagefault: poke |
| 04:00.31 | file | pagefault: you remind me of the person I sit beside in computer science, it is immensely disturbing |
| 04:03.09 | purple_cow | ARRRRG |
| 04:03.32 | cheers | there's a bug in it, duh ;) |
| 04:04.14 | purple_cow | :P |
| 04:04.18 | file | I should go into an unconcious state |
| 04:05.22 | Cae | hm. time for a shower. |
| 04:12.40 | purple_cow | scanline: i hate to ask, but care to take another look? :P |
| 04:12.50 | scanline | sure, I'm getting annoyed at this 3D tracker anyway |
| 04:13.36 | scanline | so this white polygon isn't the ground? |
| 04:14.01 | purple_cow | no |
| 04:14.03 | purple_cow | that's my test quad |
| 04:14.08 | purple_cow | the ground should be textured |
| 04:14.09 | purple_cow | and a lot bigger |
| 04:14.29 | purple_cow | ground should be [-400,400] in each dim, that white quad is [-50,50] |
| 04:14.38 | scanline | hrm. you're setting texture coordinates, but where do you enable textures? |
| 04:14.48 | ChipX86 | I have this urge to graph the tradewars map |
| 04:15.17 | scanline | purple_cow: looks like texturemanager.c binds the texture, but nothing ever glEnables it |
| 04:15.39 | purple_cow | but shouldn't i be getting at least a bigger white quad? |
| 04:16.02 | scanline | ahmaybe |
| 04:16.06 | scanline | er, maybe |
| 04:16.19 | scanline | aha |
| 04:16.29 | scanline | the ground is there, it's just way off to the right side of the screen |
| 04:16.37 | scanline | try making the window much wider than it is tall and you'll see it |
| 04:16.38 | purple_cow | huh |
| 04:17.00 | purple_cow | huh |
| 04:20.29 | ChipX86 | thus begins the map |
| 04:21.50 | *** join/#tacobeam stephie (~steph@12.160.175.206) |
| 04:21.53 | ChipX86 | hey |
| 04:22.07 | scanline | hmm.. hungry... |
| 04:22.11 | stephie | hey |
| 04:22.47 | steph | :) |
| 04:23.30 | lurgyman | uh oh steph, you scared melinda away :/ |
| 04:23.35 | ChipX86 | aww |
| 04:24.27 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r3246 10bzedit/src/ (6 files in 2 dirs): yay scanline |
| 04:24.51 | lurgyman | :) |
| 04:24.55 | lurgyman | purple_cow: all fixed? |
| 04:26.37 | purple_cow | well, it's drawing |
| 04:28.23 | lurgyman | yay |
| 04:30.32 | scanline | yay, drawing |
| 04:30.46 | MysticOne | cheers: hey, you playing RO at the moment? |
| 04:31.19 | MysticOne | juanvaldes: or... do you know if she's playing at the moment? |
| 04:31.19 | ChipX86 | MysticOne: when do I get more MF? |
| 04:31.19 | ChipX86 | MysticOne: and I'm hand-mapping all of tradewars |
| 04:33.17 | MysticOne | ChipX86: it should give you 125 MF/day now |
| 04:33.25 | ChipX86 | ok, when's the beginning of a day? |
| 04:33.32 | MysticOne | I think midnight? |
| 04:33.56 | ChipX86 | hmmm |
| 04:34.00 | ChipX86 | oh, your midnight |
| 04:34.08 | ChipX86 | yeah. Okay, that makes more sense |
| 04:35.27 | cheers | lol |
| 04:35.31 | cheers | yer hooked ChipX86 |
| 04:35.42 | ChipX86 | cheers: I'm mapping a star system :D |
| 04:35.56 | cheers | oh? |
| 04:36.15 | ChipX86 | I think I'm also lost |
| 04:36.29 | MysticOne | ChipX86: they tend to move around, btw :) |
| 04:36.34 | ChipX86 | eep |
| 04:36.36 | ChipX86 | you're kidding |
| 04:36.47 | MysticOne | ChipX86: depending on disasters happening and stuff, the warps might change |
| 04:36.51 | ChipX86 | aww |
| 04:36.55 | ChipX86 | welll... hmmm |
| 04:37.30 | scanline | still would be easier than trying to map out the jetstream world :) |
| 04:37.49 | lurgyman | mm |
| 04:37.53 | lurgyman | scanline: finish that now :P |
| 04:38.18 | scanline | maybe... |
| 04:38.31 | lurgyman | meanwhile, purple_cow can finish qweather |
| 04:38.37 | purple_cow | of course! |
| 04:40.23 | lurgyman | cuz.. that was cool :) |
| 04:41.01 | purple_cow | if by cool you mean evil |
| 04:41.48 | lurgyman | no, not qweather |
| 04:42.10 | lurgyman | that otherone |
| 04:42.13 | lurgyman | jetstream |
| 04:42.20 | purple_cow | oh |
| 04:42.26 | purple_cow | yeah |
| 04:42.53 | ChipX86 | there's this neat little question-mark thing going on in my map |
| 04:44.09 | lurgyman | bah |
| 04:44.38 | cheers | 'mind me to block my mom once she logs off, kay/ |
| 04:44.40 | lurgyman | it wouldn't be so bad if they gave instructions that made any sense |
| 04:44.50 | lurgyman | cheers: hehe |
| 04:45.08 | lurgyman | cheers: ..block your mom once she logs off :) |
| 04:45.12 | cheers | she doesn't seem to pick up on the fac that if I'm not answering I'm either not here or busy, and i 'm tired of nastygrams |
| 04:45.15 | cheers | :P |
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| 04:46.12 | gonkulator | howdy melinda |
| 04:46.18 | melinda | heya gonkulator |
| 04:46.18 | ChipX86 | hey melinda |
| 04:46.23 | melinda | welcome home! |
| 04:46.29 | gonkulator | hi cheers |
| 04:46.31 | gonkulator | howdy ChipX86 |
| 04:46.32 | scanline | stupid psychology textbook even makes a lousy checkerboard holder |
| 04:46.37 | ChipX86 | hey gonkulator |
| 04:46.54 | gonkulator | hmm... |
| 04:46.58 | melinda | a;sdlkgh >.< |
| 04:47.04 | melinda | stupid stupid invasion script |
| 04:49.32 | scanline | I'm tempted to install windows on yoshi again so I can try the demos that come with OpenCV |
| 04:49.33 | scanline | bleh |
| 04:49.44 | scanline | maybe get a better idea of what they're doing that I'm not |
| 04:49.44 | cheers | lol |
| 04:49.49 | cheers | my mum is such a crackup... |
| 04:50.15 | cheers | in 3 lines she says "it is your choice wheather you answer or not" "fine" "so i wouls like an answer" (spelling mistakes are hers) |
| 04:50.25 | lurgyman | haha |
| 04:50.28 | lurgyman | wow, that sounds like my mom |
| 04:51.06 | cheers | ok boys and girls... if the whole world published code under the GPL, how ould that effect MS? |
| 04:51.19 | scanline | is MS part of the world? |
| 04:51.23 | cheers | not sure |
| 04:51.34 | ChipX86 | cheers: they'd make their money off support, which is how they make a lot of it anyway |
| 04:51.45 | cheers | that's what I'm thinking, myself. |
| 04:52.07 | cheers | plus, they could publish their stuff open-source, but how many of their customers would know how to fix it, anyway |
| 04:52.15 | lurgyman | well, that and the fact that 90% of one windows license is pure profit for them.. |
| 04:52.23 | cheers | might effect quality, though... |
| 04:52.34 | ChipX86 | they'd have to keep up |
| 04:52.43 | file[ZzZ] | g'night |
| 04:52.46 | ChipX86 | however, standards may start developing |
| 04:52.47 | gonkulator | night file[ZzZ] |
| 04:53.01 | cheers | think they'd hvae to open their own standards? |
| 04:53.41 | cheers | gotta laugh when "admiralfrijole" pops into #adium just based on the name alone |
| 04:53.43 | scanline | if everybody wrote open source code, there would be no way to have proprietary formats and protocols.. so you wouldn't have people actively working against each other, but you'd still have a hard time getting people to agree |
| 04:54.13 | cheers | scanline: isn't that what IEEE and some others do, though? |
| 04:54.29 | cheers | w3c and whatnot... |
| 04:54.32 | cheers | you'd think they'd flourish |
| 04:54.37 | lurgyman | well, IEEE is more hardwarey... |
| 04:54.42 | cheers | although...what's to keep me from publishing my own standards |
| 04:54.49 | scanline | cheers: yeah, but not everything is a standard.. vendors have their own proprietary file formats |
| 04:54.52 | cheers | yeah, I know, but I started in engineering, that's what came to mind ;) |
| 04:54.54 | scanline | (like .doc) |
| 04:54.58 | cheers | *nod* |
| 04:55.03 | cheers | but they'd be opensource. |
| 04:55.10 | cheers | so the wouldnt' be PROPRIETARY anymore. |
| 04:55.18 | lurgyman | yep |
| 04:55.20 | cheers | just... obtuse. |
| 04:55.20 | cheers | ;) |
| 04:55.24 | scanline | heh, yeah |
| 04:56.06 | scanline | well, even if the entire world started using open source development, you'd still have the same kind of bickering you see between KDE and GNOME, Qt/E and GPE, etc. |
| 04:56.28 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 04:56.32 | ChipX86 | just then there'd be a third |
| 04:56.37 | lurgyman | only, on a much much larger scale :) |
| 04:56.38 | ChipX86 | the Windows window manager |
| 04:56.40 | cheers | I'm new enough to Open Source that I'm not really familiar w/ said bickering |
| 04:56.40 | lurgyman | and a fourth |
| 04:56.44 | ChipX86 | and desktop environment |
| 04:56.44 | lurgyman | the MacOS windows manager |
| 04:56.49 | ChipX86 | cheers: it gets bad |
| 04:56.51 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r3247 10bzedit/ (6 files in 3 dirs): start in on the walls drawable |
| 04:56.59 | ChipX86 | cheers: childishly bad |
| 04:57.05 | cheers | that's human interaction in general |
| 04:57.24 | cheers | only difference is we can't sling mud on exactly WHY windows is bad, only taht we know it is ;) |
| 04:57.29 | scanline | yeah, but in the corporate world you have managers that can make people do what they say or fire them |
| 04:57.32 | scanline | in open source, people just argue |
| 04:57.44 | cheers | what about people who get paid to develop open-source |
| 04:58.03 | scanline | depends on how much control their manager wants |
| 04:58.17 | purple_cow | cheers: nobody who argues in open source actually does so on technical points |
| 04:58.23 | cheers | hehe |
| 04:58.44 | cheers | "my icon's purdier than yours"! |
| 04:58.45 | cheers | ;) |
| 04:59.06 | purple_cow | worse |
| 04:59.18 | cheers | my for() loop's purdier than yours? |
| 04:59.18 | purple_cow | at least there there's a real answer which is purdier ;) |
| 04:59.45 | purple_cow | for example, i'd imagine that the KDE architecture and the GNOME architecture each have similar technical merits |
| 04:59.57 | purple_cow | but the KDE people won't touch anything that smells of GNOME and vice-versa |
| 05:00.14 | cheers | and, ironically, I can barely tell them apart |
| 05:00.34 | cheers | of course I don't spend my days on linux boxen :shrug: |
| 05:01.09 | lurgyman | yep |
| 05:01.33 | lurgyman | though if GtkFileChooser doesn't get better soon |
| 05:01.43 | lurgyman | ..i may be driven to fluxbox or somesuch |
| 05:01.46 | lurgyman | er |
| 05:01.47 | lurgyman | KDE |
| 05:01.55 | lurgyman | because of course fluxbox is a file selector |
| 05:02.13 | lurgyman | but then i'd have to compile it, and that would suck |
| 05:02.13 | lurgyman | a lot |
| 05:02.31 | cheers | of course. |
| 05:03.22 | ChipX86 | I'm having as much fun mapping as I am trading :D |
| 05:03.25 | melinda | cheers: The npc's are a little mixed up atm, I'm going to make them pretty and fixed tomorrow ^^ |
| 05:03.32 | cheers | lol k |
| 05:03.39 | purple_cow | lurgyman: i don't know how much that would help you |
| 05:03.41 | cheers | I'm booked up this evening anyway |
| 05:03.45 | melinda | Hehehe |
| 05:03.50 | purple_cow | because you'd still likely be using a number of GTK apps |
| 05:04.00 | lurgyman | purple_cow: in escaping the evils of GtkFileChooser? |
| 05:04.05 | melinda | It doesn't like the invasion script and I don't know why =o |
| 05:04.11 | purple_cow | for example, i doubt you'd really be willing to switch to konquerer ;) |
| 05:04.25 | lurgyman | heh, i could use firefox |
| 05:04.41 | MysticOne | Konqueror is really nice |
| 05:04.44 | melinda | ok sleep time, nini! |
| 05:04.48 | MysticOne | and KHTML is a nice base for Safari |
| 05:05.11 | purple_cow | MysticOne: perhaps, but gecko is a lot better :P |
| 05:05.16 | MysticOne | and bigger |
| 05:05.17 | MysticOne | :) |
| 05:05.25 | MysticOne | I use Mozilla at work |
| 05:05.43 | MysticOne | but that's mainly because plugins tend to be a bit easier in Mozilla than they are in Konqueror |
| 05:05.49 | MysticOne | no browser is standards compliant |
| 05:05.52 | MysticOne | anyway, gotta go |
| 05:05.55 | MysticOne | following melinda to the bed |
| 05:05.57 | MysticOne | >:D |
| 05:05.59 | MysticOne | g'nyght! |
| 05:06.02 | gonkulator | MysticOne: yell g'night to MysticOne |
| 05:06.11 | gonkulator | oh, ok |
| 05:06.13 | gonkulator | night MysticOne |
| 05:06.21 | ChipX86 | g'night MysticOne |
| 05:13.42 | gonkulator | bah |
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