| 00:00.23 | scanline | ooh neat, looks like it just finished |
| 00:01.14 | scanline | damnit, this iMac doesn't understand .png |
| 00:01.21 | hardwire | sysfs doesn't have lots of specific block stuff in it |
| 00:01.55 | hardwire | like /proc/ide/ide0/hda/model |
| 00:02.05 | kyric | bye all |
| 00:02.21 | hardwire | should it |
| 00:02.28 | scanline | darth_mall: how's that? |
| 00:02.36 | captain_proton | yay for a 2:7 ratio of views to downloads :) |
| 00:02.45 | captain_proton | scanline: bug in the preview stuff in the file chooser |
| 00:02.48 | darth_mall | yeah |
| 00:02.54 | captain_proton | tried to render a preview image of a directory |
| 00:03.04 | scanline | wow... |
| 00:03.18 | scanline | I just tried running 'open 1-big.png' on the terminal, and it killed the mouse |
| 00:03.18 | kergoth | hardwire: are you sure about that? not all information about a device is at the same location in sysfs. the info is rather scattered. see for example what udevinfo does to traverse the tree to obtain information about a device, for writing udev rules. |
| 00:03.27 | kergoth | hardwire: but yes, afaik that information should be there if it isnt. |
| 00:03.43 | hardwire | kergoth: I grepped sysfs |
| 00:06.45 | hardwire | kergoth: blah.. udev isn't in debian |
| 00:07.20 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:07.30 | kergoth | thats silly. i have around 15 versions of udev in OE |
| 00:07.31 | hardwire | but |
| 00:07.36 | hardwire | I should concentrate on 2.4 too |
| 00:07.37 | hardwire | damnit |
| 00:07.42 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:07.44 | kergoth | that sucks |
| 00:07.47 | hardwire | well |
| 00:07.48 | hardwire | yes |
| 00:07.50 | hardwire | and windows |
| 00:07.52 | hardwire | and freebsd |
| 00:07.53 | hardwire | and solaris |
| 00:07.54 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:08.08 | hardwire | and snmp hosts |
| 00:08.14 | hardwire | and linux hosts proxying snmp requests |
| 00:08.16 | hardwire | and this and that |
| 00:08.18 | hardwire | oh dear! |
| 00:08.19 | hardwire | heh |
| 00:08.49 | hardwire | where the fuck is udev! |
| 00:08.50 | hardwire | heh |
| 00:09.12 | MysticOne | file: around? |
| 00:09.23 | kergoth | hardwire: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/ |
| 00:09.30 | kergoth | http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev-FAQ |
| 00:09.33 | hardwire | see.. thats why |
| 00:09.35 | hardwire | itsosecret! |
| 00:09.37 | kergoth | http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev_vs_devfs |
| 00:09.38 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:09.47 | file | MysticOne: yes |
| 00:10.13 | kergoth | building a recent gnome for an old ass rh73 box is a rather large pain in the ass. |
| 00:10.14 | MysticOne | file: I setup an FWD account, and changed the config according to voip-info ... but, when I attempt to dial anything with that config, it doesn't work |
| 00:10.17 | MysticOne | says there's no such extension |
| 00:10.23 | MysticOne | though... let me check something |
| 00:10.25 | file | MysticOne: did you setup extensions.conf? reloaded it? |
| 00:10.54 | MysticOne | file: yeppers |
| 00:10.59 | MysticOne | file: I can show you what's in it |
| 00:11.06 | file | MysticOne: just show me the FWD stuff |
| 00:11.14 | MysticOne | in /msg? |
| 00:11.15 | MysticOne | or in here? |
| 00:11.20 | file | msg is fine |
| 00:11.21 | MysticOne | k |
| 00:19.21 | kergoth | hrm. |
| 00:27.45 | hardwire | grr |
| 00:27.53 | hardwire | I really dislike 2.4 /proc stuff |
| 00:27.56 | hardwire | anyhoot |
| 00:28.00 | kergoth | hhe |
| 00:28.02 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:28.02 | hardwire | time to make sure everything is reverse compatible |
| 00:28.03 | hardwire | bleh |
| 00:28.10 | kergoth | fun fun. |
| 00:28.14 | hardwire | I have to approach this completely differently now |
| 00:28.27 | kergoth | you should just backport sysfs to 2.4 instead |
| 00:28.29 | kergoth | :) |
| 00:28.43 | kergoth | s/sysfs/the LDM and sysfs/ |
| 00:29.05 | hardwire | thats quite specific ;) |
| 00:29.36 | kergoth | well, first you'd need the ldm core stuff, then bits all over the tree that use it, then sysfs to interface wiwth it |
| 00:29.40 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:30.32 | hardwire | seeee |
| 00:30.41 | hardwire | it isn;t working |
| 00:31.03 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:36.04 | carpman | ugh, alright, I've BSd this paper enough, even if it is one page short |
| 00:36.20 | carpman | she sounded arbitrary when she said five pages, anyway |
| 00:37.24 | MysticOne | file 0wnz |
| 00:37.28 | hardwire | fucking UPS |
| 00:51.30 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:51.34 | pagefault | heh |
| 00:51.40 | pagefault | USPS all the way |
| 00:52.44 | pagefault | they probably wait until the last minute to deliver your package in order to piss you of |
| 00:52.45 | pagefault | f |
| 00:52.50 | pagefault | they probably are waiting right now |
| 00:52.58 | pagefault | outside in their truck, drinking coffee or something |
| 00:54.20 | kergoth | bastards |
| 00:54.50 | *** join/#tacobeam Slate (~Slate@crtntx1-ar9-4-35-230-078.crtntx1.elnk.dsl.genuity.net) |
| 00:58.56 | darth_mall | rof |
| 00:59.00 | darth_mall | erm... rofl |
| 00:59.03 | darth_mall | mount /booty |
| 00:59.20 | file | I'll pretend I didn't hear that |
| 00:59.26 | kergoth | hmm. |
| 01:01.48 | darth_mall | captain_proton: typed it by accident |
| 01:01.52 | darth_mall | must be some kind of freudian slip |
| 01:09.05 | kergoth | ehh |
| 01:09.06 | kergoth | heh |
| 01:09.18 | hardwire | I was going to display stats like this |
| 01:09.20 | hardwire | ide: |
| 01:09.21 | hardwire | disk list |
| 01:09.22 | hardwire | scsi: |
| 01:09.23 | hardwire | disk list |
| 01:09.24 | hardwire | but |
| 01:09.28 | hardwire | its gonna be like this |
| 01:09.30 | hardwire | disks: |
| 01:09.32 | hardwire | sorted disk list |
| 01:09.56 | hardwire | if the admin doesn't know what sd and hd prefixis are for .. I applaud them for installing the software |
| 01:10.14 | kergoth | heh |
| 01:10.28 | hardwire | I am mad however that I will lose the ability to monitor the model on the drives |
| 01:10.37 | hardwire | I will add that in as a perk ;) |
| 01:11.31 | hardwire | evil stuff |
| 01:11.33 | hardwire | thats what |
| 01:11.46 | hardwire | I should register a sf.net project |
| 01:11.57 | hardwire | basically a system monitoring system |
| 01:12.00 | hardwire | but.. different |
| 01:12.01 | hardwire | of course |
| 01:12.10 | captain_proton | don't do it! |
| 01:12.10 | hardwire | I got tired of arguing with the russian guy programming zabbix |
| 01:12.11 | captain_proton | sf sucks :P |
| 01:12.12 | hardwire | he is a really nice guy |
| 01:12.15 | hardwire | but he hated python |
| 01:12.20 | hardwire | captain_proton: so where? |
| 01:12.34 | captain_proton | set up an svn server ;) |
| 01:12.42 | captain_proton | or use navi-misc, i suppose :) |
| 01:12.58 | hardwire | well |
| 01:13.02 | hardwire | I have a server on a fiber line |
| 01:13.41 | hardwire | ups delivered me a package |
| 01:13.46 | hardwire | to somewhere else |
| 01:13.56 | file | hardwire: wha? |
| 01:14.10 | hardwire | somebody signed for it |
| 01:14.10 | hardwire | but it wasn't me |
| 01:14.12 | hardwire | and I don't have it |
| 01:14.16 | hardwire | this was yesterday |
| 01:14.16 | captain_proton | darth_mall: http://info.astrian.net/jargon/terms/f.html#frobnicate |
| 01:14.27 | captain_proton | hardwire: ack |
| 01:14.33 | gonkulator | oooh, frobnicate :) |
| 01:14.42 | captain_proton | which is a damn nice change |
| 01:14.53 | captain_proton | since it seems like 99% of the packages we get require a human signature |
| 01:15.16 | captain_proton | gonkulator: my chaos prof used that for a step in an algorithm today :) |
| 01:15.23 | gonkulator | cool |
| 01:15.32 | gonkulator | kergoth: you there? |
| 01:17.31 | hardwire | I like how 2.6 decided it needed to segregate disk_io to partitions |
| 01:18.47 | hardwire | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:18.47 | hardwire | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:18.47 | hardwire | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:18.48 | hardwire | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:18.59 | hardwire | what bugs me is that the reads/writes totals for the partitions like |
| 01:19.02 | hardwire | don't add up |
| 01:19.04 | hardwire | they come close |
| 01:19.06 | hardwire | but not 100% |
| 01:19.14 | hardwire | I wonder if they record hda stats pre bootup |
| 01:19.21 | hardwire | and partitions after bootup |