| 00:00.37 | darth_mall | without a doubt, Baby Blue is my favorite Little Birdy song |
| 00:00.58 | Cae | so what movie do I want to watch? |
| 00:00.59 | darth_mall | does anyone know a better way to play .m4a files then xine? |
| 00:01.23 | captain_proton | ewwwwwwwwwww |
| 00:02.25 | captain_proton | they've got the default server list hardcoded |
| 00:06.06 | captain_proton | yay for discovering music that i own and hadn't really listened to very much |
| 00:07.35 | hardwire | I need an XP iso.. |
| 00:07.37 | hardwire | anyone? |
| 00:07.50 | scanline | hardwire: your local computer store? |
| 00:08.23 | hardwire | bastard |
| 00:08.27 | hardwire | hehe |
| 00:08.29 | Cae | remember, we're strongly against illegal file sharing. |
| 00:08.32 | Cae | mmhmm. |
| 00:08.36 | scanline | yep |
| 00:08.36 | scanline | yep |
| 00:13.39 | captain_proton | tcp 0 0 192.168.3.1:42877 206.9.217.151:ircd ESTABLISHED 24121/xchat-gnome |
| 00:14.32 | Cae | you know, it's kind of creepy that Elizabeth was about 12 when the guy she's later affianced to in this movie was at least mid-twenties |
| 00:14.40 | scanline | yay |
| 00:14.46 | Cae | (Pirates) |
| 00:18.21 | CIA-5 | 03micah * r1906 10cia/LibCIA/Web/ (Stats/Browser.py Template.py): |
| 00:18.21 | CIA-5 | Add a <link> to the default RSS for each stats target, |
| 00:18.21 | CIA-5 | so search engines and news aggregators can find the feeds |
| 00:18.21 | CIA-5 | automatically. |
| 00:22.36 | CIA-5 | 03jupiter * r1907 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/xchat-gnome.glade: name a widget |
| 00:23.48 | darth_mall | captain_proton: did you give it a cool name like Vladimir |
| 00:24.49 | scanline | bah |
| 00:25.14 | scanline | trying to google for RSS 2.0 clients that implement the <cloud> tag for publish and subscribe, I get CIA's todo list page |
| 00:25.23 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 00:26.54 | file | the melodic scales compel you!!! |
| 00:30.29 | darth_mall | Cae: it's only creepy by our standards |
| 00:30.44 | Cae | nod |
| 00:30.58 | Cae | for that time period it would have been normal |
| 00:31.04 | Cae | it's just kind of creepy to realize it :) |
| 00:31.09 | darth_mall | but I didn't think she was betrothed to anyone in that movie |
| 00:31.18 | darth_mall | that's why Norrington asked her to marry him at the beginning |
| 00:31.26 | Cae | nod |
| 00:31.39 | darth_mall | or are you just talking about the age difference in general |
| 00:31.42 | Cae | Norrington was the captain of the ship she was on when she first met Will |
| 00:31.47 | darth_mall | I know |
| 00:31.58 | Cae | age difference in general |
| 00:32.03 | darth_mall | but she was like 18 when he asked her to marry him |
| 00:32.06 | darth_mall | that's not that creepy |
| 00:32.08 | Cae | I know |
| 00:32.12 | darth_mall | my mom is 10 years older than my dad |
| 00:32.34 | darth_mall | it's kinda odd to think that when mom was in HS dad was in like 1st grade ^^ |
| 00:32.34 | Cae | it's just kind of weird because she was like 10 in the beginning and he was already a captain |
| 00:32.39 | Cae | LOL |
| 00:32.52 | darth_mall | but once you reach a certain age the age differences start to matter less |
| 00:33.00 | Cae | *shrug* I've nothing against age difference when love's there. but Norrington and her weren't in love either. |
| 00:33.03 | darth_mall | dad was like 22 when they met, and it didn't matter so much |
| 00:33.08 | Cae | nod |
| 00:33.35 | darth_mall | but periodically it occurs to me that mom was in College while dad was in elementary school and I get momentarily weirded out |
| 00:33.41 | Cae | hehe |
| 00:33.55 | Cae | when they were thinking about getting married, it wasn't a big deal |
| 00:34.13 | Cae | it's just earlier in the movie when you realize she was about 10, it's weird |
| 00:34.21 | darth_mall | yeah, a little |
| 00:35.40 | darth_mall | still, the greatest part of the movie is Jonny Depp |
| 00:35.52 | Cae | yeah |
| 00:35.56 | Cae | he's awesome |
| 00:36.14 | darth_mall | 'cept for the part where he had to live with Hunter S. Thompson for a few months |
| 00:37.19 | darth_mall | heh |
| 00:37.20 | Cae | eh. |
| 00:37.25 | kergoth | bleh. |
| 00:37.38 | kergoth | damnit, its only thursday |
| 00:37.54 | kergoth | Cae: good luck |
| 00:37.58 | darth_mall | pfff, order |
| 00:38.01 | Cae | I'll need it.. |
| 00:38.09 | kergoth | i should order a pizza |
| 00:38.16 | darth_mall | kergoth: yes, you should |
| 00:38.23 | Cae | well..more like trying to let the disorganization not be hopelessly tangled |
| 00:38.29 | Cae | pizza is good |
| 00:39.07 | darth_mall | Cae: you should Feng Shui your computer! |
| 00:39.24 | Cae | ..why do I have glib on a windows partition? |
| 00:39.36 | kergoth | because... you use cygwin? |
| 00:39.43 | Cae | hm. did. |
| 00:39.47 | Cae | ew, trillian |
| 00:40.04 | captain_proton | ugh this stuff is crufty |
| 00:40.21 | darth_mall | hehe, crufty |
| 00:40.30 | Cae | heh |
| 00:40.37 | Cae | I do not envy you that job |
| 00:40.39 | darth_mall | oooh, sounds like fun |
| 00:40.57 | darth_mall | plus, who knows if I could actually make it cleaner |
| 00:41.30 | kergoth | i need a new project. |
| 00:41.32 | kergoth | badly |
| 00:41.38 | captain_proton | darth_mall: the server list stuff wouldn't take much |
| 00:41.47 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 00:42.35 | captain_proton | have fun |
| 00:42.51 | Cae | huh |
| 00:42.59 | Cae | I also found Requiem For A Dream |
| 00:43.21 | kergoth | yay |
| 00:44.03 | Cae | which I already have elsewhere |
| 00:46.33 | Cae | hey cool my toys directory.. |
| 00:53.11 | CIA-5 | 03jupiter * r1908 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/xchat-gnome.glade: name a couple more widgets |
| 00:54.22 | CIA-5 | 03jupiter * r1909 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (6 files): fill the servers config |
| 01:01.24 | captain_proton | robots took your songs, and sung them wrong |
| 01:11.48 | Cae | whee |
| 01:12.25 | Cae | how can I misplace 20gb of files? |
| 01:12.30 | Cae | or lose, rather |
| 01:15.05 | Cae | I mean..I shouldn't be able to lose 20gb in my file system |
| 01:22.03 | Cae | wow |
| 01:27.41 | scanline | bah, stupid plumbing |
| 01:27.45 | captain_proton | =P |
| 01:27.53 | file | what occured? |
| 01:27.55 | scanline | there seems to be a rather stubborn clog... the toilet still works, but it drains a bit slow |
| 01:28.02 | Cae | I have ridiculously nested old home directories |
| 01:30.17 | hardwire | thats just sick.. |
| 01:30.33 | captain_proton | hardwire: hum? |
| 01:31.08 | hardwire | Cae.. and her nested home dirs |
| 01:31.13 | hardwire | disgusting |
| 01:31.27 | scanline | yep |
| 01:31.39 | file | I think I might actually pass my music exam tomorrow |
| 01:32.34 | Cae | there, un-nested |
| 01:34.36 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 01:35.30 | hardwire | boxes |
| 01:35.31 | hardwire | buttons |
| 01:35.32 | hardwire | the usual |
| 01:35.48 | captain_proton | gee, thanks |
| 01:35.57 | scanline | pixels, widgets, pointers... what every great UI needs |
| 01:36.33 | Cae | *watches |
| 01:37.25 | hardwire | so |
| 01:37.54 | hardwire | there is a project for making a progress bar based on the stdout of popular programs |
| 01:37.55 | hardwire | scp |
| 01:37.56 | hardwire | rsync |
| 01:37.58 | hardwire | this and that |
| 01:38.02 | hardwire | I think its a near idea |
| 01:38.20 | hardwire | I think I wanna find a way to have zsh/bash log everything to a program that does this |
| 01:39.26 | hardwire | then just throws it to some shared memory.. or something.. that can listen to the progress and output it however it wants |
| 01:39.38 | hardwire | whatchathink?! |
| 01:40.10 | file | I think you're insane! |
| 01:40.14 | scanline | that's a silly idea |
| 01:40.20 | hardwire | fuck you all! |
| 01:40.29 | scanline | what you really need is a daemon that determines which processes you're interested in... |
| 01:40.34 | scanline | then it hooks up to them with ptrace |
| 01:40.40 | hardwire | I personally think it would be cool to have a graphical progress meter consolidating transfer/backup/blah status of all my terminals |
| 01:40.40 | hardwire | heh |
| 01:40.53 | hardwire | hmm |
| 01:40.56 | scanline | it then puts a breakpoint at its syscall entry points and traps functions that might indicate progress is being made |
| 01:41.04 | hardwire | but that doesn't help with the very important thing |
| 01:41.10 | scanline | then it reports that via DCOM to a gnome panel applet |
| 01:41.13 | hardwire | being able to vew progress of remote output |
| 01:41.51 | hardwire | can you report to DCOM w/o having something listen? |
| 01:42.00 | hardwire | I don't know much about the dcom server |
| 01:42.09 | kergoth | dcom. just send out dbus messages |
| 01:42.14 | hardwire | dbus? |
| 01:42.15 | hardwire | hehe |
| 01:42.30 | scanline | DCOM!! |
| 01:42.47 | kergoth | dbus isnt gnome specific, and therefore sucks less |
| 01:42.50 | kergoth | :D |
| 01:42.54 | hardwire | hmm |
| 01:43.09 | hardwire | interestiiink |
| 01:43.09 | scanline | DCOM is gnome specific? |
| 01:43.17 | kergoth | dbus is also whats being used by the HAL project for hardware attach/detach, which makes it automatically spiffier |
| 01:43.28 | hardwire | dcop? |
| 01:43.41 | hardwire | dcom? |
| 01:43.45 | hardwire | whats the gnome DCOM server? |
| 01:43.53 | kergoth | hmm, /me shrugs |
| 01:44.01 | scanline | heh. |
| 01:44.09 | scanline | DCOM is a microsoft thing, DCOP is KDE, GNOME uses CORBA |
| 01:44.17 | hardwire | well fucking hell |
| 01:44.45 | kergoth | s/dbus isnt gnome specific/dbus isnt specific/ |
| 01:44.50 | kergoth | there, thats better |
| 01:44.57 | hardwire | heh |
| 01:45.13 | hardwire | so.. |
| 01:45.16 | hardwire | pyorbit would work with this |
| 01:45.16 | captain_proton | scanline: well, technically COM is based on CORBA too |
| 01:45.24 | scanline | I suggest a daemon that ptraces things to detect progress, and you argue about the RPC method? |
| 01:45.25 | lurgyman | yay |
| 01:45.33 | kergoth | scanline: hehe |
| 01:45.51 | hardwire | hmm |
| 01:45.55 | hardwire | I shouldn't have asked ;) |
| 01:46.08 | kergoth | ~/code/oe$ |
| 01:46.13 | kergoth | Message from syslogd@linux at Thu Jan 22 20:41:11 2004 ... |
| 01:46.13 | kergoth | linux kernel: Oops: 0011 |
| 01:46.13 | kergoth | hmm |
| 01:46.16 | hardwire | scanline: I just think the ptrace method.. while neat and spiffy.. doesn't help when I do remote administration |
| 01:46.26 | hardwire | but parsing the output from the shell would gimme that data |
| 01:46.51 | kergoth | ~fishslap hardwire |
| 01:46.55 | | ACTION slaps hardwire up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 01:46.55 | hardwire | I think it would be just as easy to make a daemon that squats and writes out to the X display what it sees |
| 01:47.02 | hardwire | scanline: well I thought it would work |
| 01:47.03 | hardwire | fucker |
| 01:47.18 | lurgyman | :) |
| 01:47.27 | kergoth | god today blew |
| 01:48.05 | Cae | have fun, be good :P |
| 01:48.20 | lurgyman | heya Cae |
| 01:48.21 | kergoth | Cae: stop giving me conflicting orders |
| 01:48.23 | kergoth | Cae: ;) |
| 01:48.47 | Cae | then have fun :P |
| 01:49.06 | Cae | heya lurgyman |
| 01:49.25 | lurgyman | well, or ever, i suppose |
| 01:49.29 | Cae | LOL |
| 01:49.50 | lurgyman | flerking djudles |
| 01:50.13 | lurgyman | is it REALLY necessary to get an email every single time someone adds a user on babylonia |
| 01:50.21 | lurgyman | (no. no it isn't.) |
| 01:50.54 | captain_proton | wow scanline, you clogged the toilet up good |
| 01:51.01 | scanline | apparently so |
| 01:51.23 | scanline | didn't do much |
| 01:51.27 | captain_proton | scanline: maybe you just weren't persistent enough |
| 01:51.48 | scanline | could be... I have little experience with plungers, so I also might have been lacking in technique |
| 01:51.54 | captain_proton | heh |
| 01:53.00 | CIA-5 | 03jupiter * r1910 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/xchat-gnome.glade: start on a server configuration dialog |
| 01:53.35 | lurgyman | scanline: you take the plunger, you go, 'kerpush', and repeat as necessary |
| 01:53.46 | scanline | lurgyman: that's the part I got |
| 01:53.55 | lurgyman | hehe |
| 01:53.57 | lurgyman | ok :) |
| 01:54.03 | scanline | but the positioning with regard to the hole in the toilet seems tricky.. |
| 01:54.13 | scanline | the plunger is a bit on the big side |
| 01:54.16 | CIA-5 | 03jupiter * r1911 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (3 files): some ui changes |
| 01:54.23 | lurgyman | ooh, UI changes |
| 01:54.25 | scanline | or the small side maybe |
| 01:54.34 | captain_proton | scanline: the trick is to do the plunging while the bowl is mostly full of water |
| 01:54.39 | scanline | ah |
| 01:54.39 | captain_proton | so it doesn't splash crap all over you |
| 01:54.43 | lurgyman | ew |
| 01:54.57 | scanline | that's why I was afraid to be all that kerpushy with it :) |
| 01:55.52 | captain_proton | hrmph |
| 01:57.01 | CIA-5 | 03jupiter * r1912 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/xchat-gnome.glade: don't display the server config dialog automagically |
| 01:59.43 | lurgyman | captain_proton: progress is on my to-do list, right after... |
| 01:59.46 | lurgyman | dinner! |
| 01:59.58 | lurgyman | all right, hands up all you who thought i was going to say 'learning portuguese' |
| 02:00.22 | scanline | yay for creepy nouvelle stuff |
| 02:01.15 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 02:01.16 | captain_proton | dinner you say |
| 02:01.35 | lurgyman | yay, tacotacotacotaco |
| 02:02.13 | Cae | you get off of school late |
| 02:02.40 | Cae | ChipX86: :P |
| 02:02.45 | ChipX86 | yeah.. |
| 02:02.51 | ChipX86 | kinda sucks this semester |
| 02:03.01 | lurgyman | have you been beating up the other kids for lunch money again |
| 02:03.35 | CIA-5 | 03jupiter * r1913 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/xchat-gnome.glade: dan can finish that dialog ;) |
| 02:03.40 | lurgyman | heh |
| 02:04.17 | Cae | I think he has |
| 02:04.23 | lurgyman | good |
| 02:04.29 | lurgyman | he's been following my instructions then |
| 02:04.41 | Cae | corrupting people *again*? |
| 02:04.53 | lurgyman | yep |
| 02:04.55 | lurgyman | just like you said |
| 02:05.08 | MysticOne | I remember corrupting my fellow students in my 10th grade CS class |
| 02:05.13 | MysticOne | apparently, none of them had ever seen a naked woman |
| 02:05.15 | MysticOne | so ... |
| 02:05.18 | MysticOne | I introduced them to pr0n |
| 02:05.21 | Cae | oh, ok, as long as it's on my orders |
| 02:05.22 | captain_proton | hahaha |
| 02:05.31 | lurgyman | yep |
| 02:05.40 | Cae | MysticOne: CS people have enough bad habits as it is :P |
| 02:06.14 | lurgyman | the only thing i remember about 10th grade CS class was how "Really Incredibly Speedy Computer" was an option for the acronym for RISC on out multiple choice test |
| 02:06.19 | CIA-5 | 03jupiter * r1914 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/xchat-gnome.glade: add a connect dialog |
| 02:06.27 | captain_proton | lurgyman: heh, me too |
| 02:06.34 | MysticOne | Cae: I showed it to them at school too |
| 02:06.36 | MysticOne | it was great |
| 02:06.38 | captain_proton | i think we were forced to implement bubble sort or something, but i'm not sure |
| 02:06.43 | Cae | lol |
| 02:07.15 | MysticOne | "What? You've never seen a naked woman? Well let me show you" "Dude, we're at school, we'll get caught!" "What? You don't think I took precautions? Check this out" *picture of totally naked, spread eagle girl on monitor* ... I heard a few hearts stop |
| 02:07.20 | MysticOne | it was so fun :) |
| 02:07.54 | captain_proton | i bet mrs benedict would be saddened to learn that RISC is the only thing we remember from that class |
| 02:08.20 | lurgyman | i bet so too |
| 02:08.40 | lurgyman | though, now i have a smart-ass answer ready for if Waite asks us about RISC in components |
| 02:08.43 | MysticOne | lurgyman: my grandmother is pretty much like that :) |
| 02:08.45 | captain_proton | =D |
| 02:08.48 | MysticOne | though she's actually tolerant |
| 02:08.54 | MysticOne | which is uncharactaristic of baptists |
| 02:09.06 | lurgyman | heh |
| 02:09.08 | Cae | lurgyman: fundamentalist is redundant |
| 02:09.13 | Cae | lol |
| 02:09.22 | MysticOne | hehehe |
| 02:09.26 | lurgyman | Cae: dern' tootin' |
| 02:09.41 | captain_proton | doodeedoo |
| 02:10.05 | MysticOne | anyone ever see lainOS? |
| 02:10.28 | captain_proton | i remember looking at it and saying "hey, that's silly" |
| 02:10.44 | Cae | MysticOne: never seen it |
| 02:10.59 | MysticOne | it was a guy trying to modify BSD to make it like the Navi OS in Lain |
| 02:11.02 | Cae | I'm not atheist but I'm not any major religion. |
| 02:11.07 | Cae | heh |
| 02:11.16 | kergoth | re |
| 02:11.22 | kergoth | yay for not being at work anymore |
| 02:11.25 | Cae | hehe |
| 02:11.29 | MysticOne | kergoth: yay! |
| 02:11.33 | Cae | did you have fun? |
| 02:11.38 | kergoth | this is the week from hell |
| 02:11.43 | MysticOne | Cae: if anything, I usually subscribe to science ... but I don't believe in deities |
| 02:11.43 | kergoth | so no. but thanks for asking |
| 02:12.03 | MysticOne | stuff like that |
| 02:12.07 | kergoth | i'm not athiest, i just figure i'll find out when i die. so ill just wait and see. |
| 02:12.13 | MysticOne | kergoth: hehehe |
| 02:12.19 | Cae | hehehe |
| 02:12.23 | MysticOne | it's like a tetanus shot |
| 02:12.31 | MysticOne | it's a pain to get one, it hurts, and it makes life uncomfortable |
| 02:12.40 | MysticOne | and if you ever need one or they suspect tetanus, they give you one anyway |
| 02:12.49 | MysticOne | so since you can't avoid it in the end, you might as well wait until then :) |
| 02:13.41 | kergoth | interesting analogy you have there |
| 02:13.47 | Cae | *shrug* I am content to leave my beliefs open and without specifics. |
| 02:14.02 | MysticOne | captain_proton: really? I always had the worst pain from a tetanus shot |
| 02:14.07 | MysticOne | like, the muscle just ached for *weeks* |
| 02:14.20 | captain_proton | MysticOne: ahh |
| 02:14.31 | MysticOne | and I hate needles |
| 02:15.11 | MysticOne | captain_proton: my mother-in-law has MS, and has to go to the hospital twice a year for steroid treatment |
| 02:15.13 | Cae | shots themselves don't entirely bother me; my muscles don't stay sore. I do tend to bruise when they draw blood, but..eh. I just really really hate sharp pointy things invading my personal space and not being able to do anything about it. |
| 02:15.22 | MysticOne | last time I remember her being there, the IV they gave her fell out of the vein ... and they never noticed it |
| 02:15.27 | MysticOne | the medicine just pooled up in her arm |
| 02:15.28 | lurgyman | captain_proton: it's not the soreness that bothers people. |
| 02:15.33 | MysticOne | and some of it is *still* there |
| 02:15.36 | Cae | :\ |
| 02:16.13 | Cae | it's also the sharp pointy thing sinking into skin part. |
| 02:16.16 | lurgyman | yeah |
| 02:16.18 | captain_proton | heh |
| 02:16.27 | MysticOne | actuall |
| 02:16.29 | Cae | it doesn't hurt particularly. |
| 02:16.31 | MysticOne | blood getting drawn is the worst |
| 02:16.39 | Cae | it's just..sharp pointy thing invading skin. |
| 02:17.01 | MysticOne | because I swear I can feel the needle in the artery in my arm |
| 02:17.05 | MysticOne | like with each beat of my heart |
| 02:17.06 | ChipX86 | try passing out with a needle practically in your armpit, and your arms closing up |
| 02:17.12 | MysticOne | I feel the artery tightening around it |
| 02:17.17 | MysticOne | ChipX86: why? |
| 02:17.23 | ChipX86 | it's not fun :) |
| 02:17.32 | Cae | ooh |
| 02:17.36 | MysticOne | why would you have a needle in your armpit? |
| 02:17.47 | lurgyman | same reason you'd watch lawrence welk |
| 02:17.53 | captain_proton | lurgyman: rofl |
| 02:18.02 | ChipX86 | MysticOne: they were trying to draw blood and that's the only place they could find a pulse |
| 02:18.03 | Cae | what was fun is when one doctor's office decided to draw several tubes of blood when I was dehydrated and hadn't eaten much beforehand. |
| 02:18.09 | lurgyman | hmm |
| 02:18.13 | MysticOne | ChipX86: couldn't get it in the crook of your arm? |
| 02:18.20 | ChipX86 | dunno |
| 02:18.23 | MysticOne | Cae: that doesn't help :( |
| 02:18.24 | ChipX86 | I wasn't the one sticking the needle in |
| 02:18.24 | lurgyman | captain_proton: is there any reason we don't want to put server config in preferences? |
| 02:18.36 | Cae | MysticOne: I know, I passed out briefly. |
| 02:18.46 | Cae | which was actually an interesting experience. |
| 02:18.54 | lurgyman | dern' tootin'! |
| 02:19.13 | Cae | I have good veins. they never have trouble drawing blood from me. |
| 02:19.18 | MysticOne | hehehe |
| 02:19.27 | kergoth | why is it, that every single fucking time i order papa johns, i forget the password |
| 02:19.30 | kergoth | every time. |
| 02:19.32 | Cae | hehe |
| 02:19.35 | captain_proton | lurgyman: it is |
| 02:19.40 | lurgyman | oh, ok |
| 02:19.44 | ChipX86 | kergoth: it's a conspiracy |
| 02:19.47 | Cae | a new pizza place opened up and was giving out free slices. yum. |
| 02:19.49 | captain_proton | i structured it a little like the evolution mail accounts thing |
| 02:19.59 | captain_proton | prefs page gives a list with add, edit & remove buttons |
| 02:20.03 | captain_proton | and then edit pops up the dialog |
| 02:20.07 | lurgyman | ah |
| 02:20.25 | ChipX86 | poor navi |
| 02:20.28 | ChipX86 | er, CIA |
| 02:20.36 | ChipX86 | why is CIA flooding off? |
| 02:21.52 | kergoth | heh, could be a bunch of csets from a bk repository |
| 02:21.59 | kergoth | not me this time though |
| 02:22.00 | kergoth | :) |
| 02:22.04 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 02:22.06 | kergoth | s/mshrugs/shrugs/ |
| 02:22.52 | scanline | looks like it might be some pld stuff that isn't going to #commits |
| 02:23.02 | ChipX86 | oh. pld. good. |
| 02:23.04 | scanline | er.. maybe it is going to #commits |
| 02:23.22 | scanline | either way, they still have those big ftp doodads.. guess it hasnt' all been converted to XML yet |
| 02:23.42 | ChipX86 | what are those? I can't figure it out, except that they're annoying |
| 02:24.07 | scanline | results from their automated build system. they really shouldn't be going to #commits |
| 02:24.30 | Cae | I blame all of you for introducing the word clueful into my vocabulary |
| 02:24.30 | scanline | we designed a schema for a new format for those, but the formatters aren't in place yet |
| 02:26.47 | lurgyman | clueful? |
| 02:27.11 | scanline | clualicious on the other hand... |
| 02:27.24 | lurgyman | or cluevatious |
| 02:27.55 | Cae | I need to choose more movies to watch |
| 02:28.52 | ChipX86 | I have concluded that mars is alive and well, and destroying/capturing/disabling anything we send to it |
| 02:29.38 | captain_proton | yay for laying the cheese on so thick you can barely tell there's chili underneith |
| 02:29.52 | scanline | hehe |
| 02:29.57 | lurgyman | ChipX86: it's like that planet in that one sequel to the Foundation trilogy |
| 02:31.18 | MysticOne | http://www.bushin30seconds.org/finalists.shtml |
| 02:31.21 | Cae | so what do I feel like watching? |
| 02:31.26 | lurgyman | solaris! |
| 02:31.45 | Cae | what is that? |
| 02:31.50 | captain_proton | its a movie right |
| 02:31.52 | captain_proton | based on the book |
| 02:31.59 | Cae | no no.. |
| 02:32.10 | Cae | the google image thingie |
| 02:32.13 | Cae | under the l |
| 02:33.11 | scanline | the chinese character for "the 'l' in google"? |
| 02:33.31 | scanline | oh no, it's gonkulator |
| 02:33.35 | gonkulator | sorry |
| 02:34.01 | captain_proton | Cae: we're reasonably sure it stands for 'monkey' |
| 02:34.10 | Cae | heh |
| 02:34.16 | kergoth | hrm |
| 02:34.48 | lurgyman | er |
| 02:34.52 | lurgyman | s/fer/wif/ |
| 02:38.58 | kergoth | hm, i should order teh ARM ARM in print form |
| 02:40.00 | file | vivace - quick and lively... gah I just can not remember that |
| 02:40.21 | pagefault | I am so bored right now |
| 02:42.54 | lurgyman | hmm |
| 02:43.34 | captain_proton | lurgyman: gimme an htpasswd line |
| 02:43.45 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 02:43.56 | captain_proton | it would also help if the passwd file had 'lurgyman' instead of 'lurgymag' |
| 02:44.19 | lurgyman | ah |
| 02:44.21 | lurgyman | i imagine it would |
| 02:44.25 | lurgyman | fixed? |
| 02:44.28 | captain_proton | yup |
| 02:45.43 | CIA-5 | 03lurgyman * r1915 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/xchat-gnome.glade: Oops, was that the commit button |
| 02:45.46 | lurgyman | whee |
| 02:46.04 | kergoth | bored. |
| 02:46.06 | file | allegro is fast and lively isn't it? |
| 02:46.19 | lurgyman | or just fast |
| 02:46.23 | lurgyman | it's italian, right |
| 02:46.24 | lurgyman | for fast |
| 02:47.12 | lurgyman | fast and lively would be more like allegro e vivace |
| 02:47.13 | captain_proton | lurgyman: i think there needs to be something to configure servers within a network |
| 02:47.19 | captain_proton | could be a separate button, i dunno |
| 02:47.32 | lurgyman | yeah |
| 02:50.36 | file | andante is... moderately slow - about walking speed |
| 02:50.41 | file | vivace is quick and lively... |
| 02:51.42 | lurgyman | captain_proton: we could make it like a setup wizard, kind of like evo's mail setup wizard thingy you get at the start |
| 02:52.07 | captain_proton | lurgyman: well, what i mean is like xchat's list of servers for a network |
| 02:52.14 | lurgyman | i konw |
| 02:52.15 | lurgyman | er |
| 02:52.16 | lurgyman | i know |
| 02:52.25 | lurgyman | but that could be one of the steps in the setup wizard |
| 02:52.51 | lurgyman | though, that wouldn't be so good for editing already-set preferences... |
| 02:52.53 | captain_proton | but it needs to be editable |
| 02:52.54 | lurgyman | hrm |
| 02:53.24 | lurgyman | hmm, default xchat seems to be begging for mercy by telling me the lag time is 0s |
| 02:53.45 | lurgyman | ok |
| 02:53.47 | lurgyman | button it is |
| 02:54.12 | captain_proton | then you need another dialog for dealing with that |
| 02:54.42 | lurgyman | yep |
| 02:55.41 | captain_proton | lurgyman: you need to read the stuff about laying out prefs dialogs |
| 02:55.47 | lurgyman | yeah |
| 02:55.52 | lurgyman | hmm |
| 02:55.52 | captain_proton | http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/1.0/layout.html#window-layout-spacing |
| 02:56.01 | captain_proton | look at "technical details for proper layout" |
| 02:56.14 | lurgyman | on a side note - |
| 02:57.33 | lurgyman | and said servers should be put at the top |
| 02:57.46 | lurgyman | though that last part would be an implementation detail |
| 02:58.22 | captain_proton | lurgyman: ok, that's easy enough to do |
| 02:58.35 | captain_proton | lurgyman: if you would be so good as to start a TODO with that item ;) |
| 02:58.43 | lurgyman | okeydoke |
| 03:01.07 | ChipX86 | scanline: guess they are doing the ftp stuff in #commits.... |
| 03:01.23 | scanline | hrm |
| 03:02.28 | scanline | ChipX86: you shouldn't see any more of that in #commits now :) |
| 03:02.36 | CIA-5 | 03lurgyman * r1916 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/TODO: yay, TODO list |
| 03:03.00 | ChipX86 | :D |
| 03:03.51 | captain_proton | lurgyman: if we have multiple columns, we can just let them sort by a click of the header |
| 03:04.33 | lurgyman | true |
| 03:04.38 | lurgyman | or whatever :) |
| 03:06.50 | captain_proton | lurgyman: should probably just have 'real name' be a global-only option |
| 03:06.54 | captain_proton | maybe? |
| 03:07.38 | CIA-5 | 03jupiter * r1917 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/xchat-gnome.glade: fix lurgy's layout |
| 03:10.48 | captain_proton | lurgyman: care to start frobnicating the menus? |
| 03:10.49 | lurgyman | captain_proton: to force people to use a consistent name? |
| 03:10.58 | captain_proton | you could start by giving me a 'connect' menu item ;) |
| 03:11.04 | lurgyman | heh |
| 03:11.09 | lurgyman | ok then |
| 03:12.50 | lurgyman | so long as we don't remove the save button |
| 03:12.55 | lurgyman | it's important to be able to save IRC |
| 03:13.30 | MysticOne | unfunfunf |
| 03:24.32 | captain_proton | eep, i was gonna do laundry, wasn't i |
| 03:24.37 | lurgyman | no |
| 03:24.54 | captain_proton | no? |
| 03:25.03 | lurgyman | nope |
| 03:25.09 | lurgyman | you weren't |
| 03:25.10 | lurgyman | i can tell |
| 03:26.58 | CIA-5 | 03lurgyman * r1918 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/xchat-gnome.glade: yay, it's a couple of relevant menu items |
| 03:29.19 | lurgyman | captain_proton: don't read too much into the connect icon, not much thought put into it yet |
| 03:30.19 | CIA-5 | 03lurgyman * r1919 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/xchat-gnome.glade: Hmm, slightly cooler connect icon |
| 03:35.27 | CIA-5 | 03lurgyman * r1920 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/xchat-gnome.glade: HA. Thanks to a bit of renaming and another icon change, the (newly-renamed) Open Connection menu item inside File is more apt than ever. |
| 03:35.37 | scanline | yay, it's like a big web form that almost does something useful |
| 03:35.45 | lurgyman | yay, almost |
| 03:35.54 | scanline | er, wrong window |
| 03:35.59 | lurgyman | hehe |
| 03:36.07 | file | I can't believe I didn't get relative minor scales before |
| 03:36.19 | CIA-5 | 03micah * r1921 10cia/ (4 files in 2 dirs): yay, it's like a big web form that almost does something useful |
| 03:37.56 | CIA-5 | 03jupiter * r1922 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (6 files): look, its like the beginnings of a connect dialog |
| 03:38.28 | CIA-5 | 03micah * r1923 10cia/LibCIA/Web/Stats/Feed.py: Just use "Customized RSS" as the title and put the name of the stats target it's for in the subtitle. "Customized RSS for Old-style 'colorText' commit messages" is kind of a long title. |
| 03:39.45 | CIA-5 | 03micah * r1924 10cia/LibCIA/Web/Stats/Feed.py: Implement CustomizeRSS.parent() so breadcrumbs work |
| 03:42.46 | CIA-5 | 03lurgyman * r1925 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/xchat-gnome.glade: Add a server menu item |
| 03:46.33 | CIA-5 | 03jupiter * r1926 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/xchat-gnome.glade: name a couple of them widgets |
| 03:55.55 | CIA-5 | 03lurgyman * r1927 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/xchat-gnome.glade: More menu enhancedness |
| 03:56.21 | scanline | http://yoshi.navi.cx/stats/project/gnome/.rss/customize |
| 03:56.24 | scanline | ^ almost works :) |
| 03:56.26 | lurgyman | captain_proton: make sure i didn't just do something stupid with svn and overwrite that change you just made |
| 03:56.57 | captain_proton | yup, you did |
| 03:57.03 | lurgyman | d'oh |
| 03:57.18 | lurgyman | sowwy |
| 03:57.31 | CIA-5 | 03jupiter * r1928 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/xchat-gnome.glade: name some of them widgets, again |
| 03:58.01 | CIA-5 | 03jupiter * r1929 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (connect_dialog.c main_window.c): hey look, its getting closer to actually doing the gui properly |
| 03:58.27 | captain_proton | lurgyman: i'm generally not doing too much - just naming widgets |
| 03:58.34 | lurgyman | ok |
| 03:58.38 | captain_proton | when i commit, an svn up *ought* to be able to merge them correctly |
| 03:58.49 | lurgyman | cool |
| 04:00.13 | kergoth | Can one of you guys switch the 'openzaurus', 'linux-cl', and 'openembedded' projects rulesets to go to #oe instead of #openembedded? |
| 04:00.27 | kergoth | people keep seeing #openembedded and thinking its a general embedded channel, not a specific project |
| 04:00.56 | scanline | sure |
| 04:01.02 | kergoth | thanks |
| 04:01.18 | scanline | lurgyman: well, captain_proton theoretically could pull a rather powerful CIA key out of the backups on navi |
| 04:01.34 | lurgyman | meh |
| 04:01.35 | lurgyman | i guess |
| 04:02.02 | scanline | kergoth: that should do it |
| 04:02.09 | kergoth | cool |
| 04:03.41 | captain_proton | scanline: my key is valid for rulesets too (at least it was before the move, dunno if that changed things) |
| 04:05.06 | scanline | ah, it should still be |
| 04:05.35 | CIA-5 | 03jupiter * r1930 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/xchat-gnome.glade: set the connect button to be non-sensitive by default |
| 04:06.52 | lurgyman | captain_proton: so have you made any mention yet of our endeavors to the folks on #xchat? |
| 04:07.46 | captain_proton | not yet |
| 04:07.47 | CIA-5 | 03lurgyman * r1931 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/xchat-gnome.glade: Reordered the view menu a bit |
| 04:08.15 | captain_proton | i figger i should at least get it connecting to a server first |
| 04:08.20 | lurgyman | heh |
| 04:08.21 | lurgyman | true |
| 04:09.43 | captain_proton | grrrr |
| 04:09.47 | captain_proton | you stomped on my stuff again |
| 04:09.54 | captain_proton | when CIA announces you need to update :P |
| 04:09.58 | lurgyman | but.............. i updated.......... |
| 04:10.36 | CIA-5 | 03jupiter * r1932 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/xchat-gnome.glade: do this yet again |
| 04:10.39 | lurgyman | lurgyman@navi ~/src/cvs/xchat-gnome/fe-gnome> svn up 9:12PM |
| 04:10.39 | lurgyman | G xchat-gnome.glade |
| 04:10.39 | lurgyman | Updated to revision 1930. |
| 04:10.39 | lurgyman | lurgyman@navi ~/src/cvs/xchat-gnome/fe-gnome> svn ci 9:12PM |
| 04:10.39 | lurgyman | Sending fe-gnome/xchat-gnome.glade |
| 04:10.40 | lurgyman | Transmitting file data . |
| 04:10.42 | lurgyman | Committed revision 1931. |
| 04:10.46 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 04:10.54 | captain_proton | you didn't do a save in glade, update, then reopen in glade, did you? |
| 04:10.59 | scanline | aww |
| 04:11.03 | scanline | "Moose" isn't valid XML |
| 04:11.05 | scanline | poor mozilla |
| 04:11.13 | captain_proton | that's the way you need to do it |
| 04:11.29 | captain_proton | because glade won't automatically suck changes in the file into itself |
| 04:12.03 | lurgyman | grr |
| 04:12.14 | captain_proton | weird |
| 04:14.48 | CIA-5 | 03lurgyman * r1933 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/xchat-gnome.glade: Try this again (more view changes) |
| 04:16.08 | captain_proton | there we go |
| 04:17.30 | lurgyman | yay |
| 04:18.22 | CIA-5 | 03lurgyman * r1934 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/xchat-gnome.glade: Come to think of it, those ellipses were silly |
| 04:27.52 | lurgyman | hmm |
| 04:28.40 | lurgyman | captain_proton: in my unsolicited opinion, the server/channel pane would look better above the user pane |
| 04:29.19 | captain_proton | patches welcome ;) |
| 04:29.40 | lurgyman | heh |
| 04:30.51 | lurgyman | well, has any code gone in to actually putting the server tree where it is in the mockup yet? |
| 04:31.07 | captain_proton | the code works by widget name |
| 04:31.19 | captain_proton | so long as you cut/paste in the right spots, it'll all work fine |
| 04:31.20 | lurgyman | ah |
| 04:43.24 | lurgyman | hmm |
| 04:43.37 | lurgyman | captain_proton: it's not... committing... |
| 04:43.58 | lurgyman | and the file seems to have reverted itself magicwise |
| 04:44.07 | captain_proton | weird |
| 04:44.15 | captain_proton | if you're doing fresh lemme do something quicklike |
| 04:44.26 | lurgyman | ok |
| 04:44.40 | captain_proton | err, hmm |
| 04:44.47 | captain_proton | i didn't think i'd done it already |
| 04:44.48 | CIA-5 | 03micah * r1935 10cia/LibCIA/Web/Stats/Feed.py: |
| 04:44.48 | CIA-5 | Support for parameters passed via the URL to feed implementations. Specifically, |
| 04:44.48 | CIA-5 | a version indicator that selects the feed implementation to use, the name of the |
| 04:44.48 | CIA-5 | medium to format messages for, and the maximum number of messages to return. |
| 04:45.49 | lurgyman | hmm |
| 04:45.49 | lurgyman | maybe you've got that happening too |
| 04:45.49 | captain_proton | ah wait, was looking at the wrong widget |
| 04:45.49 | CIA-5 | 03jupiter * r1936 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/xchat-gnome.glade: set the button sensitive |
| 04:45.49 | captain_proton | 'tis all yours |
| 04:45.49 | lurgyman | kerpoof |
| 04:46.04 | scanline | hmm |
| 04:46.06 | scanline | micah@beton:~:$ uname -a |
| 04:46.06 | scanline | Linux beton 2.4.20 #1 pi? cze 6 16:48:34 CEST 2003 i686 unknown unknown PLD Linux |
| 04:47.50 | CIA-5 | 03lurgyman * r1937 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/xchat-gnome.glade: feng shui enhancements |
| 04:48.00 | captain_proton | yay |
| 04:48.46 | lurgyman | so i was talking to my chinese lab partner in components today |
| 04:48.59 | file | and? |
| 04:49.12 | lurgyman | he says eastern asia is getting terrified of the japanese again |
| 04:50.43 | lurgyman | he says it's because of the combination of the new japanese buildup and religion slipping into their government |
| 04:51.04 | lurgyman | which reminds them uncomfortably of the decade or two before the 2nd world war |
| 04:51.46 | lurgyman | (though, i tend to doubt it will be so much of a problem. china has nuclear weapons and japan doesn't, iirc) |
| 04:53.43 | lurgyman | s/japanese buildup/japanese military buildup/ |
| 05:15.32 | scanline | heh, the CVS client for CIA seems to be good at inspiring aggression |
| 05:27.37 | darth_mall | did our internet hiccup while I was gone? |
| 05:27.41 | captain_proton | no |
| 05:27.46 | captain_proton | aim's been hiccuping tho |
| 05:27.56 | darth_mall | well, but this download appears to have bitten the dust |
| 05:33.07 | darth_mall | it's going to be terribly difficult to install freebsd if I can't get a cd |
| 05:33.17 | captain_proton | quite |
| 05:33.47 | captain_proton | what a neat show that is |
| 05:34.04 | lurgyman | freebsd? |
| 05:34.27 | MysticOne | I hate installing freebsd |
| 05:34.32 | MysticOne | it's the absolute stupidest installer |
| 05:34.33 | pagefault | I like it |
| 05:34.35 | pagefault | it's easy |
| 05:35.15 | darth_mall | lurgyman: the power management stuff in linux is completely incompatible with my laptop, from what I've been able to surmise |
| 05:35.30 | darth_mall | however, I read something where someone with the exact same language had a very easy time getting it going in freebsd |
| 05:35.50 | darth_mall | gak |
| 05:35.56 | darth_mall | s/language/laptop/ |
| 05:36.00 | MysticOne | I had two NICs in a machine |
| 05:36.05 | MysticOne | tried to install FreeBSD on it |
| 05:36.11 | darth_mall | stupid doing homework and conversing at the same time |
| 05:36.18 | MysticOne | I didn't know which NIC was plugged into the netweork at the time |
| 05:36.36 | MysticOne | I told it to get an IP via dhcp, and if I pick the wrong one, *I had to restart the entire install* |
| 05:36.44 | MysticOne | nobody I knew of who ran FreeBSD knew any way around it |
| 05:37.20 | captain_proton | quickly move the cable to the other NIC if it doesn't get an address immediately? :) |
| 05:37.22 | lurgyman | darth_mall: i know ;) i was referring to the show captain_proton was so enamoured with |
| 05:37.36 | darth_mall | lurgyman: oh, hehe, sorry |
| 05:38.18 | lurgyman | hehe |
| 05:40.45 | Cae | g'night peoples |
| 05:40.54 | Cae | sleep well |
| 05:41.09 | captain_proton | 'night Cae|Sleep |
| 05:41.19 | lurgyman | 'night |
| 05:41.28 | lurgyman | darth_mall: no intricacies allowed! ONLY GRAMMAR |
| 05:42.10 | darth_mall | lurgyman: too much grammar this time |
| 05:42.26 | lurgyman | nah, you can never have too much grammar |
| 05:42.29 | lurgyman | it's so useful |
| 05:43.00 | lurgyman | always make sure to start a long conversation about gerund clauses when you go for a job interview |
| 05:43.18 | lurgyman | they'll be so impressed they'll have no choice but to hire you |
| 05:43.20 | Cae|Sleep | http://www.dreadgazebo.com/eric.html a parting gift, courtesy of some other people in some other channels |
| 05:44.27 | darth_mall | ermm... how do you get a neutral Paladin |
| 05:44.44 | darth_mall | unless you're an anti-paladin (chaotic evil) aren't they required to be lawful good? |
| 05:45.33 | lurgyman | um |
| 05:45.37 | lurgyman | sure! |
| 05:45.40 | lurgyman | :) |
| 05:46.50 | file | pagefault: my cellphone got shipped out this morning at 3PM, and it's already at the local depot |
| 05:47.23 | darth_mall | neat story |
| 05:47.46 | darth_mall | although, I imagine that anyone who roleplays regularly has a number of similar ones |
| 05:48.02 | file | via the post office... this is insane |
| 05:48.42 | darth_mall | oh, speaking of roleplaying... lurgyman, scanline, captain_proton, and zak (if you're around) I'm gonna give waqphael a call about some D&D this weekend |
| 05:48.56 | darth_mall | if any of you are interested I can see if he and Jess wanna come here to play |
| 05:48.59 | darth_mall | and you'd be welcome to join |
| 05:49.19 | pagefault | file: wow |
| 05:49.22 | pagefault | it might come tomorrow |
| 05:49.48 | lurgyman | uh oh |
| 05:49.49 | lurgyman | ok |
| 05:50.06 | darth_mall | lurgyman: was that an ok to me about D&D? |
| 05:51.04 | pagefault | it's funny when I bought from amazon.ca |
| 05:51.13 | pagefault | they had a 1-3 day delivery option and a 4-6 day one |
| 05:51.21 | lurgyman | darth_mall: depends when they come up |
| 05:51.22 | pagefault | I picked the 4-6 day one and it came in less than a day |
| 05:51.25 | pagefault | :P |
| 05:51.36 | darth_mall | lurgyman: is there a particular eve which would be better for you? |
| 05:51.45 | lurgyman | darth_mall: i will likely be away for an unknown amount of time on saturday |
| 05:51.57 | lurgyman | k |
| 05:52.31 | darth_mall | captain_proton: no matter how early you start games generally don't get going til 10 or so |
| 05:53.03 | pagefault | hmm |
| 05:53.05 | pagefault | time to work on my web site |
| 05:53.09 | pagefault | hehe |
| 05:53.14 | pagefault | lets see if I don't totally screw it up |
| 05:54.21 | darth_mall | captain_proton: I also imagine there will be a good deal of time devoted to rolling characters, and that could be done while you're away |
| 05:55.51 | darth_mall | captain_proton: there isn't a whole lot of exp. necessary |
| 05:56.03 | darth_mall | if you're interested then by all means join us |
| 05:56.08 | darth_mall | if you aren't, then don't |
| 05:56.31 | darth_mall | but don't worry about 'not knowing how', it isn't hard |
| 05:57.03 | darth_mall | especially since they got rid of the THAc0 and replaced it with a more sane dice system |
| 05:57.35 | darth_mall | all of a sudden I feel so nerdy |
| 05:57.53 | scanline | hehe |
| 05:58.34 | darth_mall | scanline: you too are welcome, of course |
| 05:58.52 | scanline | no thanks, I'm not really in the frame of mind for roleplaying... |
| 05:59.20 | darth_mall | ok |
| 06:03.59 | darth_mall | no kidding |
| 06:04.01 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 06:04.14 | captain_proton | pfft |
| 06:06.04 | darth_mall | ;) |
| 06:08.04 | ChipX86 | getting an icon into a GtkEntry is not easy :) |
| 06:08.27 | scanline | what's that for? |
| 06:08.37 | ChipX86 | an entry that displays presence info as an icon next to the name |
| 06:08.42 | ChipX86 | to be used in evolution |
| 06:09.03 | scanline | ah.. so you type a name, and the icon appears next to it automatically? |
| 06:09.05 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 06:09.08 | scanline | neat |
| 06:09.19 | ChipX86 | it's going to require something really brilliant |
| 06:09.26 | ChipX86 | and my mental state doesn't allow for even simple things lately.. |
| 06:12.29 | darth_mall | ah, I see someone else knows the secret medical properties of the dollar bill |
| 06:12.41 | ChipX86 | B is for Apple |
| 06:13.04 | darth_mall | no no, Apple gets an F |
| 06:13.15 | darth_mall | cuz all the stuff they sold me is broken |
| 06:23.01 | ChipX86 | GtkSpinButton inspires me to do evil things |
| 06:23.16 | ChipX86 | I thought it was an hbox with an entry and a couple buttons. Nope! |
| 06:24.06 | captain_proton | heh |
| 06:28.28 | darth_mall | hehe, it's kinda neat when all the graphs on gkrellm are maxing out or close to |
| 06:31.20 | captain_proton | arg |
| 06:34.06 | darth_mall | or you need to find a way to slow down time |
| 06:34.14 | captain_proton | that would work |
| 06:34.26 | captain_proton | i feel plenty fast with my hands, but when i try to use my legs, i feel fat and slow :P |
| 06:34.45 | captain_proton | ooh |
| 06:34.48 | darth_mall | captain_proton: are you kicking above your waist? |
| 06:35.03 | captain_proton | darth_mall: no |
| 06:35.08 | darth_mall | ah, ok then |
| 06:35.10 | darth_mall | nm |
| 06:35.37 | captain_proton | i think i just need to start visiting the rec center and beating up a bag |
| 06:35.57 | darth_mall | they don't have very many bags that are good for kicking that I've found |
| 06:36.17 | darth_mall | they're all hung far too high off the ground |
| 06:36.27 | captain_proton | sigh |
| 06:36.38 | darth_mall | not bad for working knees though |
| 06:38.05 | ChipX86 | hrm, not evil enough. |
| 06:41.14 | darth_mall | mmm... bed time soon |
| 06:42.11 | lurgyman | you could always kick high :) |
| 06:42.24 | captain_proton | yeah, that'd do wonders for my speed |
| 06:42.39 | darth_mall | captain_proton: the other option is ask scanline really nicely to stand still for a bit >=) |
| 06:42.48 | lurgyman | so.. your objective is to kick low, and fast? |
| 06:42.55 | scanline | ow |
| 06:43.28 | captain_proton | well, for the moment |
| 06:43.41 | captain_proton | high kicks i don't really care if they're fast, because i don't really use them at all |
| 06:44.14 | lurgyman | bah, you and your silly nearly street-only style |
| 06:44.47 | captain_proton | huh? i'm not saying i don't practice high kicks, i'm just saying i don't use them :) |
| 06:45.14 | lurgyman | but.. never using high kicks is very.. street-onlyish.... |
| 06:45.26 | captain_proton | if you say so |
| 06:45.45 | darth_mall | I wonder why they chose to make this monitoring equipment look like sperm penetrating an egg |
| 06:45.49 | darth_mall | lurgyman: that's not entirely true |
| 06:46.09 | lurgyman | well, high kicks are hardly useful in a street situation |
| 06:46.18 | darth_mall | that is true |
| 06:46.51 | darth_mall | but that doesn't necessarily mean that captain_proton is a nearly street-only style of MA |
| 06:46.57 | lurgyman | no |
| 06:47.10 | lurgyman | but it's not very well-balanced :) |
| 06:47.17 | captain_proton | pfft |
| 06:47.26 | captain_proton | i'll admit that its a bit less flowery than most of the mcdojo styles :) |
| 06:47.53 | ChipX86 | yay, Diablo is back! ;) |
| 06:47.54 | lurgyman | 'twould be quite useful in, say, a sparring situation |
| 06:50.08 | lurgyman | hehe |
| 06:50.11 | lurgyman | :) |
| 06:50.34 | ChipX86 | linuxfund is dead? I wonder where I got that stuff from? |
| 06:50.54 | darth_mall | captain_proton: it's not that they aren't useful in a strictly self-defense situation, it's just that the circumstances in which they are useful is fery limited |
| 06:51.48 | lurgyman | high kicks? |
| 06:52.26 | captain_proton | naw! you can kick the gun out of the attackers hand! |
| 06:52.36 | lurgyman | of course |
| 06:52.39 | lurgyman | silly of my |
| 06:52.44 | darth_mall | lurgyman: generally yes, because the circumstances that would need to exist to make them useful are very narrow and rare |
| 06:52.44 | lurgyman | er |
| 06:52.44 | lurgyman | me |
| 06:52.51 | lurgyman | darth_mall: like? |
| 06:53.20 | captain_proton | a really tall person with iron knees |
| 06:53.27 | lurgyman | pff |
| 06:53.30 | lurgyman | that's what arms are for |
| 06:53.59 | lurgyman | :p |
| 06:54.11 | captain_proton | fighting a double amputee |
| 06:54.12 | captain_proton | :P |
| 06:54.20 | lurgyman | pff |
| 06:54.34 | lurgyman | the thing about self defense is that you're always going for power, directed at the right place |
| 06:54.38 | darth_mall | I am firmly of the belief that there really isn't any such animal as a 'bad technique' only bad applications of techniques |
| 06:54.40 | lurgyman | and there's almost no power in a high kick |
| 06:54.50 | darth_mall | lurgyman: that, I know to not be true |
| 06:54.58 | lurgyman | ...compared to a low kick? |
| 06:55.00 | darth_mall | I also disagree with the statement about power |
| 06:55.05 | lurgyman | well |
| 06:55.08 | lurgyman | there are other factors |
| 06:55.08 | lurgyman | but |
| 06:55.14 | lurgyman | with a kick |
| 06:55.16 | darth_mall | lurgyman: I know plenty of people that could take your head off with a kick |
| 06:55.19 | lurgyman | the main thrust is power |
| 06:55.39 | darth_mall | the problem generally with kicking above the waist is that it's too slow |
| 06:55.48 | darth_mall | hands and arms are closer so they're faster |
| 06:56.12 | darth_mall | but your legs are a good deal stronger than your arms and are capable of delivering more power |
| 06:56.44 | lurgyman | the same people who could kick my head off, however, are still people who could find more power if they chose to kick lower |
| 06:56.58 | lurgyman | and legs are much more vulnerable targets |
| 06:57.13 | lurgyman | the objective in a self-defense situation should never be more than to imobilize your target |
| 06:57.22 | lurgyman | not decapitating them :p |
| 06:57.41 | lurgyman | hehe |
| 06:57.46 | darth_mall | I agree, but that's not what you said earler |
| 06:57.50 | lurgyman | sure it is |
| 06:57.51 | darth_mall | s/earler/earlier/ |
| 06:58.07 | darth_mall | <lurgyman> the thing about self defense is that you're always going for power, directed at the right place |
| 06:58.49 | darth_mall | if you use your body right you can generate more power with a higher kick because it has more time to build |
| 06:59.13 | darth_mall | I'd say that going from generating maximum power to immobilizing opponents is a pretty big correction |
| 06:59.31 | lurgyman | when you're *kicking* you're going for the most power you can |
| 06:59.47 | darth_mall | what about sweeps |
| 06:59.52 | lurgyman | that's not a kick |
| 06:59.54 | lurgyman | that's a sweep |
| 06:59.57 | darth_mall | oh yeah? |
| 07:00.14 | lurgyman | reeps are like kicks |
| 07:00.18 | lurgyman | but still aren't kicks |
| 07:00.23 | darth_mall | in fact, you're pretty much just kicking someones ankles |
| 07:00.50 | lurgyman | and you're going to kick them... lightly around the ankles? |
| 07:00.50 | darth_mall | generally you haven't participated in any of these discussions before |
| 07:01.00 | captain_proton | darth_mall: he's done his share of martial arts stuff |
| 07:01.04 | darth_mall | I didn't say lightly |
| 07:01.15 | darth_mall | I said you wouldn't be trying to generate the maximum amount of power you could |
| 07:01.30 | lurgyman | you'd be holding back? |
| 07:01.34 | darth_mall | because at the same time you're knocking them off balance from above |
| 07:01.42 | darth_mall | lurgyman: I wouldn't be wasting energy |
| 07:02.24 | darth_mall | shotgun approach then, eh? |
| 07:02.34 | captain_proton | you need to learn the kendo approach |
| 07:02.38 | captain_proton | and predict your opponent's movement |
| 07:02.40 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 07:02.41 | captain_proton | =P |
| 07:02.47 | lurgyman | heh |
| 07:02.55 | darth_mall | captain_proton: but to do that you have to start from a sufficient distance and run screaming at each other |
| 07:03.08 | captain_proton | MENNNNNNNN!!!!! |
| 07:03.26 | darth_mall | lurgyman: my only point here is not that high kicks are good for SD, simply that you shouldn't make such large generalities |
| 07:03.38 | darth_mall | no person can ever predict every possible situation you might end up in |
| 07:03.55 | captain_proton | all generalizations are fals |
| 07:03.56 | captain_proton | e |
| 07:04.09 | captain_proton | and on that note |
| 07:04.09 | captain_proton | time to shower |
| 07:04.25 | lurgyman | heh |
| 07:04.32 | lurgyman | and darth_mall shouldn't be so semantic :) |
| 07:04.33 | lurgyman | :p |
| 07:04.40 | darth_mall | bah |
| 07:04.42 | darth_mall | I"m going to bed |
| 07:04.47 | lurgyman | hehe |
| 07:05.12 | darth_mall | although, I will make this offer |
| 07:05.20 | lurgyman | uh oh |
| 07:05.36 | darth_mall | you should come with me to the barbeque and meet some people that can show you some of the things I only understand in my head |
| 07:06.00 | lurgyman | meh |
| 07:06.18 | lurgyman | thanks though |
| 07:06.26 | darth_mall | or atleast make a trip to CR to visit my sifu |
| 07:06.32 | darth_mall | try out some of these theories on him |
| 07:07.31 | darth_mall | that's not what I meant |
| 07:07.41 | darth_mall | I meant explain these ideas to him and see what he says |
| 07:07.45 | darth_mall | for all I know he'd agree with you |
| 07:07.55 | lurgyman | eh |
| 07:08.17 | lurgyman | no offense |
| 07:08.19 | darth_mall | see, that's not what I meant either |
| 07:08.26 | lurgyman | or discuss even! |
| 07:08.42 | lurgyman | hehe |
| 07:08.58 | darth_mall | I just figgered, that since it appears to be something you're interested in you might want to pursue it some |
| 07:09.16 | darth_mall | sifu is a good person to talk to |
| 07:09.17 | lurgyman | well |
| 07:09.29 | darth_mall | considering he's lived a lot of situations we only theorize about |
| 07:09.31 | lurgyman | i could always go talk to my old sensei :) |
| 07:09.34 | lurgyman | yeah |
| 07:10.05 | lurgyman | hrm |
| 07:10.13 | lurgyman | solaris wasn't as cool the 2nd time around |
| 07:20.28 | *** join/#tacobeam laodamas (~laodamas@acc-boulder-129-99.dmisinetworks.com) |
| 07:20.49 | CIA-5 | 03micah * r1938 10obfuscated/beer.py: yep, the world needs more obfuscated python |
| 07:30.21 | ChipX86 | oh so close |
| 07:30.28 | captain_proton | uh oh |
| 07:33.46 | captain_proton | hmm, this looks appropriately disturbing: http://animenfo.com/animetitle,1257,iuasgn,gunslinger_girl.html |
| 07:40.41 | captain_proton | yay ice cream |
| 07:43.14 | CIA-5 | 03micah * r1939 10cia/htdocs/clients/cvs/ciabot_cvs.pl: Improved the instructions in the header a little (made the warnings bigger ;) and added a fix from ramoth4 to make the script handle filenames with spaces correctly. |
| 07:44.57 | CIA-5 | 03micah * r1940 10cia/htdocs/clients/cvs/ciabot_cvs.pl: Version bump, and indicate in the version that this is from the copy hosted at cia.navi.cx, not pasky's original repository |
| 07:45.52 | ChipX86 | just as everything seemed to go so well, I hit a bump in the road |
| 07:46.20 | CIA-5 | 03micah * r1941 10cia/htdocs/clients/cvs/ciabot_cvs.pl: Add the mailing list post that gave ramoth4 the solution |
| 07:47.18 | captain_proton | bump? |
| 07:47.44 | ChipX86 | I can't make a GtkEntry a container obviously. I can only setup a little area to paint to.. so how do I automatically have a GtkImage update it? |
| 07:48.13 | captain_proton | expose events! |
| 07:48.31 | ChipX86 | yeah, but if it's animated or something, it won't update |
| 07:48.58 | CIA-5 | 03micah * r1942 10cia/htdocs/clients/cvs/ciabot_cvs.pl: Put the URL in <url> where it belongs, add a note that this version has been modified (well, noticeably now) from pasky's copy. ciabot.pl -> ciabot_cvs.pl in the loginfo line, to match the actual filename |
| 08:28.02 | ChipX86 | this is such a bad hack |
| 08:45.34 | captain_proton | i like hacks |
| 08:56.35 | CIA-5 | 03micah * r1943 10cia/htdocs/clients/cvs/ciabot_cvs.pl: Fix a missing % in the loginfo |
| 08:56.55 | CIA-5 | 03micah * r1944 10cia/htdocs/clients/cvs/ciabot_cvs.pl: both places |
| 08:58.49 | CIA-5 | 03micah * r1945 10cia/htdocs/clients/cvs/ciabot_cvs.pl: Yep, I can go around in circles all day |
| 09:42.25 | ChipX86 | scary. I can tell when people are accessing my gallery, because of the very subtle but still audible speed-up sound of the new drive |
| 09:46.36 | ChipX86 | g'night everyone |
| 10:21.32 | scanline | yay, monk |
| 10:24.08 | scanline | haha |
| 10:24.12 | scanline | "I'm not a drug dealer" |
| 10:24.18 | scanline | best way to greet border patrol |
| 10:32.50 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:14.39 | *** join/#tacobeam TD (~mike@bdsl.66.13.154.244.gte.net) |
| 11:14.41 | TD | lo guys |
| 11:14.45 | scanline | hiya |
| 11:14.53 | TD | try this for size: |
| 11:14.56 | TD | < chino-xL> if i wanted to code for wine and im not a programmer am i insane. lol |
| 11:15.03 | TD | not sure what to say to that.... |
| 11:15.07 | scanline | hah |
| 11:15.40 | TD | i wish gtk had a logging framework |
| 11:15.53 | TD | i think i've found a bug in it but i'm not sure.... |
| 11:16.06 | TD | in fact i wish all software had a logging framework :) |
| 11:17.03 | scanline | indeedy |
| 11:21.36 | TD | this guy is genius |
| 11:21.36 | TD | 11:24 < chino-xL> now i really wonna learn shell programing cause as i see it if you can shell program you are linux god |
| 11:21.58 | scanline | wow, I better start building a shrine now |
| 11:22.26 | kergoth | hm, thats a lotta gods |
| 11:22.33 | TD | heheh |
| 11:22.52 | kergoth | by his logic solaris admins are linux gods |
| 11:30.15 | file | my step-dad woke me up at 7AM depriving me of 30 minutes of extra sleep just because of alittle slow |
| 11:38.55 | TD | kergoth: he's a newbie |
| 11:39.12 | kergoth | TD: really? i couldnt tell! |
| 11:39.15 | kergoth | </smartass> |
| 11:39.16 | kergoth | :P |
| 11:39.18 | TD | heh |
| 11:39.31 | TD | well i remember thinking shell scripts looked pretty godlike at first :) |
| 11:39.37 | TD | then i read the bash manpage and just laughed |
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| 14:17.07 | scanline | your basic human is between 3 and 25 feet tall, and is made of a hairy oily goo wrapped in a t-shirt |
| 14:17.19 | Cae|Sleep | mm..caffeine.. |
| 14:20.15 | Cae|Sleep | hm. thunderstorms tomorrow. |
| 14:33.37 | Cae | I'm so ridiculously not conscious |
| 14:37.31 | *** join/#tacobeam pagefault (~pagefault@Toronto-HSE-ppp3857608.sympatico.ca) |
| 14:46.35 | pagefault | morning all |
| 14:49.23 | pagefault | how are you? |
| 14:49.31 | Cae | sleepy |
| 14:49.34 | Cae | you? |
| 14:49.51 | pagefault | good here, have coffee |
| 14:51.56 | scanline | "But this is HDTV! It's higher resolution than the real world" |
| 14:51.56 | Cae | heh |
| 14:52.45 | Cae | heh |
| 14:58.32 | pagefault | hehe |
| 14:59.52 | scanline | you won't have time for sleeping, soldier- not with all the bed making you'll be doing |
| 15:02.12 | scanline | "That appears to be the mothership..." |
| 15:02.18 | scanline | "Then what did we just blow up?" |
| 15:02.21 | scanline | "The Hubble telescope" |
| 15:03.06 | Cae | hm. off I run to be late to geology. have fun :) |
| 15:06.58 | pagefault | mmm rocks |
| 15:11.16 | captain_proton | creak |
| 15:11.23 | scanline | squish |
| 15:11.37 | pagefault | drip |
| 15:11.45 | captain_proton | growl |
| 15:12.23 | scanline | moosh |
| 15:12.44 | scanline | "No purchace necessary unless you wish to enter the contest. Odds of winning mathematically insignificant" |
| 15:22.02 | captain_proton | WTF |
| 15:22.03 | captain_proton | http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/01/20040122-5.html |
| 15:23.10 | scanline | did someone hijack their DNS? |
| 15:23.29 | captain_proton | scanline: no... |
| 15:28.59 | zak | hehehe....strangest thing in the world (presently) i can't hear out of my left eat at all, but yet i hear my inside voice (the one you hear if you plug your ears and talk, skull vibrations all that) but i can hear my regular voice out my right ear....and they are different.....very strange sounding. |
| 15:30.24 | captain_proton | no, the stranges thing in the world (presently) is that web page |
| 15:30.25 | captain_proton | i think |
| 15:30.31 | kergoth | morning. |
| 15:30.39 | captain_proton | mornin' kergoth |
| 15:30.52 | kergoth | went to bed.. less than two hours ago |
| 15:30.58 | kergoth | my body isnt happy with me |
| 15:31.00 | scanline | hi kergoth |
| 15:32.19 | scanline | so, another strange thing happened this morning.. the guy who wrote the first bitkeeper client for CIA was complaining that apparently yours has a few lines of code from his and that kergoth didn't include his GPL |
| 15:32.32 | scanline | valid complaint, but he was making an awfully big deal over about 6 lines of shell script |
| 15:32.43 | scanline | er |
| 15:32.46 | kergoth | hehe. yep, valid point |
| 15:32.50 | scanline | s/yours/kergoth's/ |
| 15:33.07 | captain_proton | heh |
| 15:33.28 | scanline | anyway, he was afraid of talking to you about it, like he thinks that because you'd violate the GPL you must be a horrible person or something... |
| 15:33.31 | lurgyman | s |
| 15:34.16 | captain_proton | hehehe |
| 15:34.17 | pagefault | ribs |
| 15:34.26 | *** join/#tacobeam lalo (~lalo@200.102.119.242) |
| 15:34.35 | lurgyman | <CIA-4> GStreamer: private debugging cat |
| 15:35.07 | scanline | hehe |
| 15:36.06 | kergoth | scanline: heh, thats amusing. if i was going to intentionally violate the gpl i wouldnt waste my time with his precious shell script. oversight. nothing more. |
| 15:36.12 | kergoth | silly people |
| 15:36.43 | scanline | that's what I was telling him.. |
| 15:38.51 | kergoth | heh, i actually cant find any lines in the current cia bits that came from his stuff at all |
| 15:39.01 | kergoth | but whatever, i started from his, ill add the heade |
| 15:39.01 | kergoth | r |
| 15:39.22 | scanline | as far as I could tell it's just the sanity checking function in the post-commit.ciabot |
| 15:40.09 | pagefault | CAFFEINE |
| 15:40.54 | kergoth | scanline: eh, the BK_SIDE is mine, the grep is mine, the DRYRUN check is -word-for-word- taken out of bk help triggers, no doubt the same source he got his from |
| 15:41.01 | kergoth | oh well |
| 15:41.09 | scanline | hehe |
| 15:41.25 | scanline | well, I think there was a comment in there that mentions #commits that's the same |
| 15:41.33 | scanline | so, maybe 4 lines |
| 15:41.38 | kergoth | ah. |
| 15:41.39 | kergoth | hehe |
| 15:46.30 | pagefault | smack the pingu! |
| 15:48.31 | zak | but i think she'd think it's funny |
| 15:54.46 | lurgyman | wasn't that the one we watched with her before? |
| 15:54.48 | zak | captain_proton: what is that? that is ... bizarre |
| 15:55.44 | zak | amanda hasn't seen reddwarf i don't think, she might have |
| 15:55.47 | zak | i don't remember |
| 15:56.28 | lurgyman | :) |
| 15:56.32 | lurgyman | oh well |
| 15:56.51 | pagefault | need food |
| 15:57.02 | pagefault | f o o d |
| 15:57.11 | zak | i hate being sick |
| 15:57.20 | zak | (my voice is so funny sounding |
| 15:57.22 | zak | ) |
| 16:42.13 | darth_mall | grrr |
| 16:42.17 | darth_mall | no goddamn hot water |
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| 16:44.26 | darth_mall | scanline: don't you have class soon? |
| 16:44.26 | darth_mall | or is that not on friday |
| 16:45.30 | scanline | darth_mall: I do have class at 10:00, and at 12:00.. but I think sleep right now is more important to me than learning how to calculate medians |
| 16:45.48 | darth_mall | but... medians! |
| 16:45.51 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 16:45.54 | scanline | mmmyep |
| 16:45.59 | darth_mall | night |
| 16:46.16 | scanline | I'm not that tired, but I know my mind is completely gone, so I don't really trust myself to do anything at the moment |
| 16:46.25 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 16:48.17 | kergoth | hrm |
| 16:48.26 | kergoth | jbot: friday |
| 16:48.36 | | Friday sucks, because it should be the weekend, but you're stuck working anyway. |
| 16:56.07 | darth_mall | grrr |
| 16:56.11 | darth_mall | why is there no goddamn hot water |
| 17:11.55 | *** join/#tacobeam jbot (ibot@c-24-1-99-18.client.comcast.net) |
| 17:11.55 | *** topic/#tacobeam is #tacobeam - where the magic of showering comes to life! || don't kill the green-box reader, that's what i always say |
| 17:12.22 | MysticOne | man ... |
| 17:12.24 | MysticOne | sometimes I hate routing |
| 17:12.42 | kergoth | but but.. routing is spiffy |
| 17:13.07 | MysticOne | trying to figure out what I'd do for this one setup |
| 17:14.33 | MysticOne | sprint's giving me a /25 ... so, I gotta take that and make /29s out of it |
| 17:14.38 | MysticOne | then figure out how in the world I'm going to route them |
| 17:14.45 | MysticOne | oh well |
| 17:14.49 | MysticOne | I guess I'll figure it out someway |
| 17:15.16 | lalo | hi misty cone! |
| 17:17.05 | file | why do online activation systems NEVER work for me? |
| 17:17.10 | MysticOne | hi lalo |
| 17:18.03 | lalo | file: you're probably a member of my clan |
| 17:18.19 | lalo | everything that works for you, must take twice the work at least, and fail a few times before it works |
| 17:18.22 | file | I don't think I am... or am I? |
| 17:18.52 | captain_proton | yay, coffee |
| 17:20.17 | darth_mall | coffee is good for the soul |
| 17:20.20 | file | gonkulator: hi gonkulator |
| 17:20.28 | gonkulator | file: hi file |
| 17:22.00 | file | how bad was it? |
| 17:22.12 | darth_mall | file: suffice it to say we won't let him have coffee anymore |
| 17:22.17 | file | darth_mall: lol |
| 17:28.10 | darth_mall | captain_proton: do me a favor? |
| 17:28.16 | captain_proton | yesyesyesyesyesyes? |
| 17:29.53 | darth_mall | if you happen to notice that this install is asking for disc 2 would you pop it in for me |
| 17:30.01 | darth_mall | it's sitting on my desk by the spindle of cds |
| 17:30.15 | captain_proton | hmm, ok |
| 17:30.17 | darth_mall | you don't have to check on it, but if you notice I'd really appreciate that |
| 17:30.22 | captain_proton | whee, meow-chan is so cool :) |
| 17:30.24 | darth_mall | hmmm... nm |
| 17:30.37 | darth_mall | it appears to have finished installing the packages w/o the second disc |
| 17:31.12 | darth_mall | it's just got some stuff for me to do later, so you don't have to worry about it |
| 17:31.17 | darth_mall | and now, I'm off to Japanese |
| 17:32.05 | captain_proton | have fun |
| 17:36.41 | TD | ChipX86! |
| 17:36.53 | ChipX86 | hey |
| 17:43.57 | kergoth | whee. |
| 17:44.14 | kergoth | why the hell doesnt autoconf set a docdir variable to ${datadir}/doc/packagename-version or something |
| 17:44.25 | kergoth | no consistency in these builds wrt where they put html documentation |
| 17:44.26 | kergoth | grr |
| 17:47.31 | ChipX86 | captain_proton: yeah, I worked on that for months :P |
| 17:47.38 | captain_proton | hehehe |
| 17:47.51 | ChipX86 | I have a whole binder full of notes |
| 17:48.23 | captain_proton | were you trying to prove its nondeterministic or fix the problem? :) |
| 17:51.30 | kergoth | kergoth@linux |
| 17:51.31 | kergoth | ~/code/packages/tmp/base/aalib-1.4rc5-r0/aalib-1.4.0$ aclocal |
| 17:51.33 | kergoth | aclocal: cannot open aclocal.m4: No such file or directory |
| 17:51.34 | kergoth | what the hell |
| 17:51.44 | kergoth | aclocal's whole point is to -create- aclocal.m4 |
| 17:51.52 | captain_proton | hehe |
| 17:52.48 | kergoth | ahah |
| 17:52.52 | kergoth | stupid fucking configure.in |
| 17:52.58 | kergoth | include(aclocal.m4) |
| 17:52.59 | MysticOne | yeah, fuck that |
| 17:53.01 | MysticOne | stupid fucking fucker |
| 17:53.11 | kergoth | note to aalib maintainers: dont include shit thats already being pulled in by autoconf implicitly |
| 17:54.41 | kergoth | hmm, that was an interesting one. you cant call AC_CANONICAL_TARGET before AC_INIT, and you cant call it after AC_INIT_AUTOMAKE |
| 17:57.26 | captain_proton | grr, this show is making me want to learn to use my katana |
| 18:07.07 | captain_proton | looks like thats a no :( |
| 18:19.00 | ChipX86 | http://www.chipx86.com/galago_entry_icon.png |
| 18:22.17 | captain_proton | ChipX86: sweet :) |
| 18:22.31 | ChipX86 | no other person working on the presence bounty has been able to do that |
| 18:22.36 | ChipX86 | and they want that |
| 18:22.36 | captain_proton | i bet |
| 18:22.47 | ChipX86 | it's nasty how it was done :) but works |
| 18:23.00 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 18:23.20 | ChipX86 | oohh |
| 18:23.20 | ChipX86 | do it |
| 18:23.25 | ChipX86 | making it a feed would be simple |
| 18:23.43 | captain_proton | first i need to get other things working |
| 18:23.52 | captain_proton | like...connecting to servers, and stuff |
| 18:24.08 | ChipX86 | pfft |
| 18:24.13 | ChipX86 | you can always do that later. It's not important |
| 18:24.33 | captain_proton | :) |
| 18:26.16 | ChipX86 | I need to find a new class to take.. going to drop geography |
| 18:26.27 | ChipX86 | maybe I can take a CS class for shoots and goggles |
| 18:27.43 | captain_proton | i like goggles |
| 18:49.44 | ChipX86|School | spaceballs! |
| 18:49.52 | ChipX86|School | evil always wins, because good is dumb. |
| 18:50.21 | gonkulator | right! |
| 18:59.49 | kergoth | whee |
| 19:02.30 | gonkulator | kergoth: having fun yet? |
| 19:04.17 | merlin262 | I need that DVD |
| 19:05.59 | gonkulator | whats up? |
| 19:06.13 | file | trying to find something to watch on TV |
| 19:06.28 | gonkulator | sounds like fun |
| 19:06.47 | file | documentation?!?!?! ARE YOU MAD??? |
| 19:08.28 | gonkulator | nope |
| 19:10.05 | file | oh? elaborate |
| 19:10.05 | gonkulator | well, its a work-study job |
| 19:10.10 | gonkulator | so I'll only have it for as long as I am a student here at metro |
| 19:10.18 | gonkulator | and I'm graduating in a few months |
| 19:10.21 | file | oh ic |
| 19:10.25 | gonkulator | so this has to be all documented and happy |
| 19:16.31 | darth_mall | who missed me |
| 19:16.44 | file | darth_mall: I did!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 19:16.51 | darth_mall | uso! |
| 19:16.59 | merlin262 | darth_mall, not i |
| 19:17.22 | darth_mall | see |
| 19:17.26 | darth_mall | merlin262 can tell the truth |
| 19:17.44 | merlin262 | :P~ |
| 19:25.02 | gonkulator | wow |
| 19:25.14 | gonkulator | sitting at the front desk makes it easier to document code |
| 19:25.51 | lalo | sigh |
| 19:26.46 | lalo | no more comic books, still 2.5 hours of coding to do, and nothing to motivate me |
| 19:35.18 | file | what kind? |
| 19:42.16 | darth_mall | tuna |
| 19:42.25 | file | oh ic |
| 19:42.30 | file | killing the fishes eh? |
| 19:42.38 | darth_mall | yup |
| 19:42.44 | file | silly you |
| 19:42.49 | darth_mall | but they're so tasty |
| 19:42.55 | darth_mall | yay! TD isn't food anymore! |
| 19:43.09 | TD | :) |
| 19:45.14 | *** join/#tacobeam file[desk] (~file@mctn1-7715.nb.aliant.net) |
| 19:47.44 | darth_mall | hehe, cow-bong! |
| 19:48.52 | gonkulator | cow-bong? |
| 19:49.15 | gonkulator | darth_mall: I got a VIP pass to an Apple Customer apprecieation thingy |
| 19:49.29 | file[desk] | gonkulator: oooooooooooh |
| 19:49.33 | gonkulator | Apple is gonna feed me and get me drunk |
| 19:49.57 | darth_mall | I see |
| 19:50.15 | gonkulator | though, I doubt I'll actually drink |
| 19:50.16 | gonkulator | but |
| 19:50.20 | gonkulator | I could win a new iPod |
| 19:51.07 | file[desk] | but won't |
| 19:51.26 | gonkulator | no, I might |
| 19:51.34 | file[desk] | but won't. |
| 19:51.44 | gonkulator | scanline and I won a bunch of stuff at after prom senior year |
| 19:53.29 | darth_mall | grr |
| 19:53.46 | darth_mall | I need a copy of theif 2 so I can get thief 3 and not feel like I've missed anything |
| 19:54.07 | file[desk] | darth_mall: my knuckle is itchy and it's your fault |
| 19:55.57 | darth_mall | there, now it doesn't itch anymore |
| 19:56.16 | file[desk] | many thanks |
| 19:56.28 | darth_mall | np |
| 19:56.31 | merlin262 | does this mean that darth_mall is file[desk]'s father? |
| 19:56.38 | merlin262 | cutting hands off and all? |
| 19:58.57 | darth_mall | s/wll/well/ |
| 20:02.34 | merlin262 | yay algorithms! |
| 20:02.42 | darth_mall | yeah, it's a cool class |
| 20:02.49 | darth_mall | but I want to fiddle with Yomiko some more |
| 20:08.20 | darth_mall | grrr... install packages faster! |
| 20:09.58 | file[desk] | how is FreeBSD puttering along? |
| 20:10.18 | darth_mall | file[desk]: I had to start over cuz I did something phenomenally stupid |
| 20:10.22 | file[desk] | what was that? |
| 20:10.30 | darth_mall | instead of a 25 gig |
| 20:10.47 | darth_mall | but it's all fixed and installing the gnome packages |
| 20:14.48 | darth_mall | and now it's doing the rest of the packages I want |
| 20:19.07 | darth_mall | shit |
| 20:19.14 | darth_mall | what's the damn file that DNS servers go in? |
| 20:20.00 | file | resolv.conf? |
| 20:20.04 | darth_mall | ya, found it |
| 20:31.24 | darth_mall | gak! |
| 20:31.25 | darth_mall | class time |
| 20:31.27 | darth_mall | laters |
| 20:41.12 | gonkulator | hehehe |
| 20:55.33 | darth_mall | so I rush out the door only to be 20 mins early |
| 20:55.55 | kergoth`food | ugh, i feel like crap |
| 20:56.01 | kergoth`food | im getting too old to operate on this little sleep |
| 20:56.49 | captain_proton | ya i'm home |
| 20:58.11 | gonkulator | kergoth`food: you are what... 22? |
| 20:58.53 | kergoth`food | 23. |
| 21:01.36 | captain_proton | hiya darth_mall |
| 21:02.22 | darth_mall | captain_proton: I may need some help later with some of the network config stuff on Yomiko |
| 21:08.16 | darth_mall | grr too much review |
| 21:08.23 | darth_mall | get to the new stuff |
| 21:12.06 | captain_proton | mmm, what a great show |
| 21:15.09 | captain_proton | darth_mall: it turns out that ran is more like misato than i thought :) |
| 21:16.00 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 21:18.03 | darth_mall | captain_proton: any sign of le controller? |
| 21:18.14 | captain_proton | not yet |
| 21:18.49 | darth_mall | =( |
| 21:27.46 | captain_proton | yay for being able to google for tracking numbers |
| 21:28.14 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 21:39.02 | captain_proton | yay, lunch |
| 21:39.57 | captain_proton | wow, this frozen microwave thingy is more than a little heavy on the ginger |
| 21:40.04 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 21:43.34 | darth_mall | mmm... ultimate data structure ^^ |
| 21:43.43 | captain_proton | huh? |
| 21:44.05 | darth_mall | a comment my prof just made about splay trees ^^ |
| 21:44.14 | captain_proton | i see |
| 21:44.38 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 21:46.05 | captain_proton | stupid delinquent UPS delivery person |
| 21:47.14 | darth_mall | lol |
| 22:05.41 | gonkulator | darth_mall: check this out |
| 22:05.42 | gonkulator | http://www.oregonlive.com/weblogs/print.ssf?/mtlogs/olive_oddblog/archives/print012411.html |
