| 00:00.16 | ninjer_proton | pfft |
| 00:00.20 | ninjer_proton | don't knock it 'till you've tried it |
| 00:00.25 | scanline | heh.. so in our AI 2 class, someone asked what language we were going to be using |
| 00:00.29 | scanline | he said probably matlab |
| 00:00.45 | scanline | then a bunch of the people who took AI 1 with me last semester tried to get him to use python instead :) |
| 00:00.56 | lurgyman | hehe :) |
| 00:00.57 | lurgyman | did it work? |
| 00:00.58 | ninjer_proton | eww |
| 00:01.01 | ninjer_proton | matlab for AI stuff? |
| 00:01.01 | ninjer_proton | gross |
| 00:01.06 | scanline | that's yet to be determined |
| 00:01.11 | lurgyman | that is a particularly obscene idea |
| 00:01.17 | scanline | ninjer_proton: I've barely used matlab, but it does seem kind of silly... |
| 00:01.32 | lurgyman | it should never be used for stuff outside math, and for math, there are other things that are better anyway |
| 00:01.34 | scanline | and from what I've heard, Numeric can do most of what matlab can, but then you have a real programming language too |
| 00:01.34 | lurgyman | like, python :) |
| 00:02.02 | scanline | numeric is quite spiffy |
| 00:02.06 | ninjer_proton | darth_mall needs to get back so i can drool all over his new machine :) |
| 00:02.17 | scanline | in that sort of way that lets you do cloth simulation i real-time in python :) |
| 00:02.24 | scanline | s/i /in/ |
| 00:02.27 | scanline | er |
| 00:02.46 | scanline | s/s\/i \/in\//s\/i \/in \// |
| 00:02.46 | darth_mall | yay for having a laptop that works |
| 00:02.52 | lurgyman | hehe |
| 00:03.37 | scanline | darth_mall: you know you want to get me one too, right? |
| 00:03.45 | darth_mall | scanline: a laptop like mine? |
| 00:03.49 | scanline | yes |
| 00:03.54 | kergoth | hmm |
| 00:03.54 | darth_mall | you know I do |
| 00:04.10 | darth_mall | it's too bad I can't afford it ^^ |
| 00:07.57 | ninjer_proton | yay nuku nuku |
| 00:08.13 | darth_mall | yay |
| 00:08.22 | darth_mall | scanline: who'd you have for numerical compuwidgets? |
| 00:08.49 | scanline | can never pronounce or spell his name... |
| 00:09.03 | darth_mall | so not McBryan I take it |
| 00:09.14 | scanline | well, I had McBryan the first time I took it :P |
| 00:09.30 | ninjer_proton | scanline: cai? |
| 00:09.37 | scanline | ninjer_proton: that was part of it :) |
| 00:12.37 | darth_mall | and already it's boring |
| 00:12.47 | darth_mall | wish I had monkey bubbles on here |
| 00:12.52 | ninjer_proton | hehehe |
| 00:13.19 | darth_mall | there must be like some kind of teaching test you have to pass to become a prof in the cs dept. |
| 00:13.25 | darth_mall | if you pass the test they don't admit you =P |
| 00:13.56 | darth_mall | actually... I guess prog. lang. was ok today |
| 00:14.07 | scanline | I think they call that test 'getting a real job' in CS at least |
| 00:14.09 | darth_mall | atleast that prof was livelier |
| 00:14.15 | ninjer_proton | darth_mall: who do you have for that? |
| 00:14.36 | lurgyman | waite is kinda wonky though |
| 00:14.42 | lurgyman | something's not quite right about the man |
| 00:14.47 | darth_mall | we're currently covering how to format our e-mail subject lines |
| 00:15.01 | lurgyman | wow |
| 00:15.03 | lurgyman | that's... wow |
| 00:15.15 | lurgyman | ooh |
| 00:15.16 | scanline | the guy I have for AI 2 seems like a nice guy, but he teaches by reading his slides |
| 00:15.35 | darth_mall | oh, and we're not allowed to send attachments |
| 00:15.39 | lurgyman | hah |
| 00:15.42 | lurgyman | that's silly |
| 00:15.45 | darth_mall | so all our code has to be in the e-mail body |
| 00:17.16 | lurgyman | pff |
| 00:17.17 | lurgyman | that's sillier |
| 00:17.19 | darth_mall | and we separate the files with a bunch of # |
| 00:17.35 | lurgyman | pffffffff |
| 00:17.53 | darth_mall | and this guys eyebrows are frightening ^^ |
| 00:17.59 | lurgyman | hehe |
| 00:18.02 | lurgyman | unibrow? |
| 00:18.14 | darth_mall | no |
| 00:18.17 | lurgyman | aw |
| 00:18.24 | darth_mall | it's like two small tribbles sitting over his eyes |
| 00:18.32 | darth_mall | if tribbles were caterpillar shaped |
| 00:18.38 | lurgyman | hehe |
| 00:18.47 | lurgyman | oh, so he's like Martin Landau of Space 1999 fame |
| 00:19.02 | darth_mall | cuz they are far too fuzy to be described as just plain catterpillars |
| 00:19.19 | lurgyman | ^^ |
| 00:21.08 | darth_mall | that silly windoze xp sticker is just decoration yeah? |
| 00:21.31 | scanline | it's a load bearing sticker |
| 00:21.37 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 00:22.05 | darth_mall | well, it seems to have removed itself from my laptop, due to my boredom |
| 00:22.27 | scanline | uh oh. now the CompUSA technicians won't know what OS your laptop runs |
| 00:22.50 | darth_mall | you mean they already knew?Z |
| 00:22.59 | scanline | well, they can read the stickers |
| 00:23.07 | darth_mall | oh |
| 00:24.38 | darth_mall | ugh, I hate the first day of class |
| 00:24.46 | ninjer_proton | quite |
| 00:24.56 | darth_mall | at least the rest of the year we're doing boring stuff that pertains to class |
| 00:25.08 | darth_mall | instead of boring stuff about the boring stuff we're going to be doing |
| 00:25.36 | darth_mall | not sure why I need a summary of what we're going to be doing in class |
| 00:27.18 | lurgyman | you mean... like a syllabus? |
| 00:27.30 | darth_mall | ooh we can do this in foretran |
| 00:27.41 | lurgyman | wahoo |
| 00:27.44 | kergoth | ugh, /me stuck writing documentation |
| 00:28.08 | ninjer_proton | lurgyman: but they don't need to talk for an hour and a quarter about the contents of the syllabus |
| 00:28.29 | lurgyman | ah |
| 00:28.35 | lurgyman | right, in class |
| 00:28.43 | lurgyman | as in, discussing the summary in class |
| 00:28.56 | darth_mall | right |
| 00:29.22 | darth_mall | not only did he discuss it, he took the time to write what he was saying on the board |
| 00:29.31 | lurgyman | that's silly |
| 00:30.55 | darth_mall | see, everything he's doing is on the website |
| 00:32.55 | lurgyman | ninjer_proton: i approve of this increased-composition, decreased-homework thing in theery this sem. |
| 00:33.21 | darth_mall | yay |
| 00:33.27 | darth_mall | lurgyman is gonna make more music! |
| 00:33.34 | lurgyman | >:-D |
| 00:33.43 | lurgyman | a whole piano sonata movement... mwa ha ha ha ha |
| 00:34.42 | lurgyman | not to mention how he's grading all our compositions on how well we fulfill the requirements of the assignment, not a subjective opinion of the work ^^ |
| 00:34.51 | lurgyman | though, if i tried something way out there i doubt he'd mind |
| 00:34.58 | lurgyman | even if he were grading it subjectively |
| 00:35.52 | lurgyman | at least, the baroque thing we have to write |
| 00:36.09 | lurgyman | did you have a choice? |
| 00:36.19 | darth_mall | well, I didn't have to sign up for this |
| 00:36.30 | darth_mall | I love his logic for not giving partial credit on the assignments |
| 00:37.00 | darth_mall | heh, 'Doesn't matter whether you work on a PC or Unix' |
| 00:37.10 | lurgyman | ^^ it's probably something like the logic my TA uses telling us that we have to write the questions out for each problem in our homework |
| 00:37.26 | lurgyman | silly components |
| 00:37.55 | lurgyman | you should ask :) what's the nominal language? fortran? |
| 00:38.01 | darth_mall | heh |
| 00:39.05 | darth_mall | no he started out by saying C, C++ or any flavor of C |
| 00:39.17 | lurgyman | the, C#, just to spite him! |
| 00:39.18 | darth_mall | or any prevelant language like Java should be ok |
| 00:39.30 | lurgyman | python should be fine, then, right? :) |
| 00:39.31 | darth_mall | and even some not so well used, like fortran |
| 00:39.43 | lurgyman | no, fortran is very widely used |
| 00:39.49 | darth_mall | I figger, if he'll accept fortran (and he said he would) python should be cake |
| 00:39.52 | lurgyman | by old scientists |
| 00:39.55 | darth_mall | heh |
| 00:39.56 | scanline | darth_mall: I used python in that class, he was fine with it |
| 00:40.15 | lurgyman | fortran is far more widespread in acedemia than python |
| 00:40.20 | scanline | though later on they give you a lot of sample code that's in C |
| 00:40.20 | lurgyman | yay :) |
| 00:40.26 | darth_mall | scanline: right, but this is a different prof |
| 00:40.37 | scanline | darth_mall: like I said, I had it with him too |
| 00:40.40 | darth_mall | in either case, I'm gonna e-mail and ask |
| 00:40.43 | scanline | this was in that semester where I failed everything :P |
| 00:40.54 | darth_mall | scanline: you did? |
| 00:41.19 | scanline | yay, CIA knows its own subversion revision now |
| 00:41.25 | darth_mall | ooh I know!..... PHP!!! |
| 00:41.49 | scanline | yay for the interesting bits in .svn being in XML |
| 00:42.49 | darth_mall | omg, he's actually teaching some course material now! |
| 00:43.40 | lurgyman | yay, dinnertime |
| 00:44.03 | darth_mall | ooh, it's like IPS back in HS |
| 00:44.39 | scanline | mmyep |
| 00:45.31 | darth_mall | lurgyman: J&W after I get back? |
| 00:46.00 | darth_mall | same question for scanline and ninjer_proton if they're interested |
| 00:46.25 | scanline | sure |
| 00:46.34 | scanline | gonkulator: what are you working on these days? |
| 00:46.38 | gonkulator | scanline: work |
| 00:46.46 | scanline | my question stands |
| 00:47.02 | darth_mall | hmmm... so apparently truncation and rounding are sources of error |
| 00:47.04 | gonkulator | after that, jurpa :) |
| 00:47.04 | darth_mall | interesting |
| 00:47.10 | gonkulator | darth_mall: what class are you in? |
| 00:47.17 | scanline | gonkulator: what stuff is this? |
| 00:47.18 | darth_mall | numerical compuwidgets |
| 00:47.20 | scanline | the chat thing? |
| 00:47.25 | gonkulator | yeah |
| 00:47.25 | ninjer_proton | hehe, interesting book |
| 00:47.31 | darth_mall | sooo hungry |
| 00:47.48 | ninjer_proton | "...following common usage, we'll call both of them maps. if you're disturbed by this, you must be a pure mathematician" |
| 00:48.05 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 00:48.05 | scanline | hah |
| 00:48.14 | darth_mall | ninjer_proton: is that for a class? |
| 00:48.31 | ninjer_proton | darth_mall: its my chaotics textbook |
| 00:48.37 | darth_mall | neat |
| 00:49.11 | darth_mall | ooh, now we're getting examples of the sources or error in calculations by doing a pretend calculation of area of the earth |
| 00:49.27 | darth_mall | and as we use the equation for a sphere he points out all the sources of error |
| 00:49.35 | gonkulator | darth_mall: what the hell is this class? |
| 00:49.47 | darth_mall | ~whaleslap gonkulator |
| 00:49.51 | | ACTION slaps gonkulator upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
| 00:50.29 | scanline | gonkulator: why don't you guys look for an existing comment system or message board? |
| 00:51.22 | darth_mall | ugh, this makes my head hurt |
| 00:51.34 | gonkulator | scanline: because were stupid and like wasting effort on duplicating work thats probably already been done... I don't know |
| 00:52.05 | gonkulator | sorry darth_mall |
| 00:52.28 | darth_mall | gonkulator: s'oke ^^ |
| 00:52.31 | ninjer_proton | so yeah, this class sounds like its going to be neat |
| 00:52.44 | ninjer_proton | the entire class is homework assignments |
| 00:52.45 | ninjer_proton | no exams |
| 00:53.25 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 00:53.36 | darth_mall | grrr hungry! |
| 00:53.47 | gonkulator | darth_mall: when did you give the answer? |
| 00:54.03 | darth_mall | it's numerical compuwidgets |
| 00:54.06 | gonkulator | ah |
| 00:54.18 | ninjer_proton | hmm |
| 00:55.13 | darth_mall | hehe, I keep getting distracted by my incredibly cute laptop |
| 00:55.36 | gonkulator | darth_mall: in that class, thats probably not a bad thing ^^ |
| 00:55.48 | darth_mall | gonkulator: it certainly isn't hard in here |
| 00:56.04 | ninjer_proton | darth_mall: =D |
| 00:56.09 | darth_mall | and more importantly it's having little impact on my ability to learn what he's teaching |
| 00:56.29 | darth_mall | unlike in Japanese where it would be easy to get distracted, and hard to follow afterwards |
| 00:56.48 | gonkulator | and I think that I'll be able to get wireless in my other two classes too |
| 00:59.05 | darth_mall | someone please make it stop |
| 00:59.28 | gonkulator | darth_mall: starcraft? |
| 00:59.52 | darth_mall | not installed |
| 01:00.00 | gonkulator | well darn |
| 01:00.05 | darth_mall | and my mouse and cd rom drive are at home |
| 01:00.06 | gonkulator | if it was installed, would you play with me? |
| 01:00.35 | darth_mall | not at this point, there's only 15 mins left |
| 01:01.33 | gonkulator | darn |
| 01:02.42 | darth_mall | 15 min game would suck |
| 01:02.46 | darth_mall | and be tough |
| 01:02.59 | darth_mall | though... 2v1 on blood bath might be doable in that time |
| 01:03.22 | gonkulator | hehehe, yeah |
| 01:03.28 | gonkulator | maybe next time :) |
| 01:03.51 | darth_mall | well, by next time I should have monkey bubbles, cuz I'll have Gentoo |
| 01:03.56 | darth_mall | and then I won't whine so much |
| 01:04.06 | gonkulator | hehehe |
| 01:04.59 | gonkulator | oh, ok |
| 01:05.07 | darth_mall | man, and this thing doesn't burn your hands after it's been on for an hour |
| 01:05.10 | gonkulator | yeah, I wouldn't feel right bring propellant to work |
| 01:05.11 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 01:05.23 | darth_mall | normally I'd irc from my Z |
| 01:05.40 | gonkulator | makes sense |
| 01:05.56 | darth_mall | makes it easier to pretend I'm not ignoring the teacher |
| 01:06.00 | gonkulator | but a laptop that sexy shouldn't have to stay home the first day you have it :) |
| 01:06.15 | gonkulator | ok, kitchen cleaning time |
| 01:06.21 | gonkulator | darth_mall: good luck with the rest of your class :) |
| 01:07.17 | CIA-5 | 03micah * r1734 10cia/ (6 files in 5 dirs): Add a page with some simple information about the server |
| 01:07.53 | darth_mall | ah, so windoze hides the notifications of inactive things to save me trouble, but pops up a notification that I have notifications |
| 01:08.08 | darth_mall | brilliant |
| 01:08.34 | lurgyman | hehe |
| 01:08.34 | ninjer_proton | :) |
| 01:08.45 | lurgyman | ooh, yay for gnuplot |
| 01:09.32 | ninjer_proton | yup |
| 01:09.47 | ninjer_proton | i get to write some code to make pretty pictures |
| 01:09.47 | ninjer_proton | http://www.mathconsult.ch/showroom/pubs/MathProg/htmls/p2-1.htm |
| 01:10.04 | darth_mall | "so you add 'em all together to get the error, which is the sum of these" |
| 01:10.18 | darth_mall | 'em and these referring to the same thing |
| 01:11.14 | darth_mall | "every number has to be approximated, unless it's exactly represented" |
| 01:11.20 | darth_mall | isn't that kind of given? |
| 01:11.46 | ninjer_proton | hehe |
| 01:12.21 | lurgyman | ooh |
| 01:12.24 | lurgyman | http://optics.org/articles/news/9/12/1/1 |
| 01:12.58 | lurgyman | ninjer_proton: a swiss math cult web site? |
| 01:13.08 | darth_mall | " |
| 01:13.26 | darth_mall | They're almost useless quantities, even though we're going to be using them throughout the semester." |
| 01:13.40 | darth_mall | s/almost/mostly/ |
| 01:13.57 | ninjer_proton | yay, cheese |
| 01:14.04 | CIA-5 | 03micah * r1735 10cia/LibCIA/Web/ (RulesetBrowser.py Template.py): Give the template a better default for headingTabs |
| 01:14.05 | lurgyman | ...“We’ve also been asked to cut meat and potato with a laser but we haven’t done that yet.” |
| 01:14.26 | darth_mall | home time |
| 01:14.28 | darth_mall | laterz |
| 01:14.31 | gonkulator | later darth_mall |
| 01:14.52 | lurgyman | byebye |
| 01:19.31 | CIA-5 | 03micah * r1736 10cia/LibCIA/Web/ (Info.py Server.py): Fix the internal server error page, small cleanups |
| 01:30.06 | ninjer_proton | yay for carrots seeming somewhat fresher when slightly frozen |
| 01:30.46 | lurgyman | heh |
| 01:34.04 | lurgyman | soooooooooooo..........dry................. |
| 01:35.04 | lurgyman | yay |
| 01:35.06 | lurgyman | cheese |
| 01:35.09 | lurgyman | ooh, it's RISC |
| 01:35.29 | lurgyman | and, gasp, it doesn't really stand for Really Incredibly Speedy Computer |
| 01:36.13 | ninjer_proton | aww |
| 01:36.32 | darth_mall | lurgyman: you're actually reading the book? ^^ |
| 01:37.20 | lurgyman | yeah... |
| 01:37.24 | lurgyman | skimming it, anyways |
| 01:37.32 | darth_mall | yeah, I did that for a while in there too |
| 01:38.00 | ninjer_proton | so lurgyman, care to do the composition assts together? |
| 01:38.13 | lurgyman | sure |
| 01:38.20 | lurgyman | except maybe the etude assignment |
| 01:38.34 | lurgyman | which may make more sense to do with another trombonist |
| 01:39.00 | CIA-5 | 03micah * r1737 10cia/LibCIA/Web/Info.py: More useless goop for the info page |
| 01:39.04 | lurgyman | we have plenty of time before that comes up anyways |
| 01:41.20 | lurgyman | guh, whoever wrote this book has some OCD issues with flow diagrams |
| 01:45.20 | lurgyman | if so, we have to make it as hard as possible |
| 01:46.37 | ninjer_proton | :) |
| 01:50.27 | CIA-5 | 03micah * r1738 /trunk/ (cia/README nouvelle/Nouvelle/__init__.py nouvelle/README): Toss in some more version numbers |
| 01:52.02 | CIA-5 | 03micah 07nouvelle-0.90 * r1739 /: Tagging Nouvelle 0.90 for release |
| 01:52.28 | CIA-5 | 03micah * r1740 10nouvelle/ (Nouvelle/__init__.py README): Version bump |
| 01:54.52 | CIA-5 | 03micah 07cia-0.80 * r1741 / ( LibCIA/__init__.py README README): Tagging CIA 0.80 for release |
| 01:55.28 | CIA-5 | 03micah * r1742 10cia/ (LibCIA/__init__.py README): Version bump |
| 01:55.29 | lurgyman | :) |
| 01:56.19 | CIA-5 | 03micah 07cia-0.80 * r1743 /: Argh, scratch that. Some of the web code in here wasn't updated. |
| 01:56.34 | lurgyman | scanline: and just what is nouvelle? |
| 01:57.13 | scanline | lurgyman: web rendering widget that CIA uses |
| 01:57.13 | lurgyman | ah |
| 01:57.48 | CIA-5 | 03micah 07cia-0.80 * r1744 / ( LibCIA/__init__.py README): Really tag 0.80 this time.. I hope |
| 01:58.10 | lurgyman | hehe |
| 01:58.40 | darth_mall | lurgyman: quite |
| 01:58.45 | lurgyman | :) |
| 01:58.51 | lurgyman | yay for it |
| 01:59.39 | gonkulator | this is amazing |
| 01:59.59 | gonkulator | my 500 mHz iBook with gentoo feels faster than my 800 mHz iBook with OS X :) |
| 02:00.31 | darth_mall | so... lurgyman... J&W |
| 02:00.46 | lurgyman | darth_mall: ye can go ahead if ye want to |
| 02:01.23 | lurgyman | darth_mall: they'll be found in wasabi:/mnt/point somewheres |
| 02:01.37 | lurgyman | bah |
| 02:01.40 | lurgyman | silly transcode |
| 02:01.40 | darth_mall | but you see |
| 02:01.54 | darth_mall | the point was you coming and partaking of one episode |
| 02:02.03 | lurgyman | oh no! |
| 02:02.09 | lurgyman | :) |
| 02:02.44 | lurgyman | but this book it's... soo..... thrilling! |
| 02:02.48 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 02:02.54 | scanline | yay, tarballs |
| 02:03.03 | darth_mall | like making toothpick from redwoods using nothing but micah's trowsers? |
| 02:03.12 | darth_mall | s/toothpick/toothpicks/ |
| 02:04.00 | lurgyman | did the cheesecake factory get bombed? |
| 02:04.23 | file | my wifi network is acting weird, it just seems to temporarily not work for a few seconds at random intervals |
| 02:04.58 | MysticOne | file: microwave nearby? |
| 02:05.10 | ninjer_proton | anyone up for ordering silvermine in 3-4 hours? |
| 02:05.23 | file | MysticOne: uh, upper floor other side of house |
| 02:05.31 | MysticOne | file: that could easily affect it |
| 02:05.34 | MysticOne | at least, if it's 802.11b |
| 02:05.35 | MysticOne | b/g |
| 02:05.39 | darth_mall | so, lurgyman, you'll be down in a few after my dinner heats, right? ;) |
| 02:05.51 | file | it was never like this before though... |
| 02:05.51 | lurgyman | i will? |
| 02:05.51 | file | only lately |
| 02:06.00 | MysticOne | file: that sounds like interference |
| 02:06.05 | MysticOne | file: possibly something new in the area on 2.4GHz |
| 02:06.05 | darth_mall | lurgyman: I should think so |
| 02:06.16 | lurgyman | i see... |
| 02:06.18 | file | MysticOne: I was pondering that |
| 02:06.20 | MysticOne | file: because when they detect something on the band, they wait a random amount of time to transmit |
| 02:06.25 | MysticOne | if it's not 802.11b traffic, it could go forever :) |
| 02:06.50 | lurgyman | glrbl |
| 02:07.24 | file | erm maybe it's Windows |
| 02:07.30 | darth_mall | lurgyman: an hour of J&W will cure what ails ya' ^^ |
| 02:07.37 | lurgyman | hah |
| 02:07.39 | lurgyman | very well |
| 02:07.47 | darth_mall | yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 02:07.56 | lurgyman | ninjer_proton: did you see the third episode? i know you weren't there when scanline and i watched it |
| 02:08.03 | ninjer_proton | lurgyman: not that i know of |
| 02:08.14 | lurgyman | you should come watch it then, it's cool :) |
| 02:08.22 | lurgyman | better than the 4th and 5th |
| 02:08.35 | lurgyman | imho |
| 02:08.40 | file | MysticOne: unfortunately I'm the only one in the near vicinity with an 802.11b network |
| 02:09.02 | darth_mall | lurgyman: ready whenever you are |
| 02:09.07 | MysticOne | file: it could be a number of things |
| 02:09.19 | MysticOne | file: but 802.11b is one of the *many* things on 2.4GHz |
| 02:09.19 | file | MysticOne: that was just a little tidbit of info :) |
| 02:09.32 | file | although there is an open wifi network at an insurance place across town |
| 02:09.38 | MysticOne | hehehe |
| 02:09.44 | MysticOne | what channel is your AP on? |
| 02:09.52 | file | let me check |
| 02:10.15 | file | 11 |
| 02:10.23 | MysticOne | hmmm... |
| 02:10.28 | MysticOne | might try putting it on 1 |
| 02:10.31 | MysticOne | I'd stay away from 6 |
| 02:10.42 | MysticOne | could also do 4 or 8 |
| 02:10.42 | MysticOne | but, I'd try to find a pattern |
| 02:11.01 | file | I don't know if it's interference or not, it may be Windows XP's slow degarding performance feature |
| 02:11.08 | MysticOne | hehehe |
| 02:11.13 | file | er degrading |
| 02:12.22 | file | oh cool, never noticed but my ap has mac filtering... |
| 02:13.51 | file | MysticOne: so what's up? |
| 02:23.02 | MysticOne | file: umm, not much |
| 02:25.04 | file | what'cha makin' |
| 02:35.07 | gonkulator | hot damn |
| 02:35.14 | gonkulator | gentoo is soooo much faster than OS X |
| 02:38.34 | pagefault | hehe |
| 02:38.46 | file | essentially to the place that makes up the internet |
| 02:38.54 | pagefault | is that your site? |
| 02:39.05 | file | pagefault: I do web hosting :) |
| 02:39.11 | pagefault | oh :P |
| 02:39.33 | file | and according to management at the place where it's going, Carrier Centre in many ways is the internet. If Carrier Centre somehow went offline, the world would notice. Communication between countries would suffer. According to the management there, the only way something like that could happen is in the event of a bomb/nuclear attack |
| 02:39.49 | CIA-5 | 03micah * r1745 10cia/mail/dot_procmailrc: Hopefully fix the procmail entry for mono commits |
| 02:40.24 | pagefault | so it will have a POP |
| 02:40.27 | pagefault | to the internet? |
| 02:40.59 | pagefault | like a major gateway? |
| 02:41.07 | file | yes |
| 02:41.12 | pagefault | ah |
| 02:41.15 | pagefault | going to NY or something? |
| 02:41.18 | file | LA |
| 02:41.20 | pagefault | ah |
| 02:41.41 | pagefault | I wish they would set one up in canada somewhere |
| 02:42.40 | pagefault | sometimes I when I send something to someone not too far away |
| 02:42.43 | pagefault | my packets go to NY or something |
| 02:42.47 | pagefault | and then back here |
| 02:43.09 | file | right now without the move, file-radio's pings are 15ms to most places |
| 02:43.36 | pagefault | nice |
| 02:43.40 | file | I can only imagine what it's going to be like after :) |
| 02:43.47 | pagefault | probably under 5 |
| 02:44.17 | file | I'd love a 100Mbps link to it... a tunnel there |
| 02:44.25 | file | that would be nice |
| 02:44.28 | scanline | hmm... |
| 02:44.33 | gonkulator | yay for proper NFS support |
| 02:44.59 | pagefault | yeah |
| 02:45.01 | pagefault | you could be your own ISP |
| 02:45.02 | scanline | file: do you by any chance have any available hosting machines with fairly hefty CPU and RAM and shell accounts that you're willing to give away? :) |
| 02:45.31 | file | ...depends |
| 02:45.37 | file | what would you be doing? |
| 02:46.23 | scanline | I've been looking around for a place to move CIA when/if it grows beyond navi's capabilities |
| 02:47.21 | file | mmm not that I know of unfortunately |
| 02:47.22 | scanline | I'd need at least a shell account, about 50MB of RAM, and 0.5GB of disk. more would be good |
| 02:47.59 | scanline | I'd need to be able to proxy requests to my own http server, make outgoing IRC connections and have a MySQL database |
| 02:48.09 | scanline | it's more than most hosts can provide :) |
| 02:48.14 | file | I'll see what I can do |
| 02:48.24 | scanline | oh, and it needs an email account with procmail |
| 02:48.43 | scanline | don't worry about it much, I'm just looking around at this point |
| 02:50.49 | file | Takiweb might be sympathetic and give you a free shell account and honor your requests :) |
| 02:51.43 | scanline | who's that? |
| 02:51.51 | file | a shell provider, http://www.takiweb.com/ |
| 02:52.11 | scanline | k |
| 02:52.22 | scanline | so far I think the best bet is sunsite, but they haven't responded to my email yet |
| 02:53.37 | scanline | I'd really rather have a provider that understands open source than one that doesn't |
| 02:53.55 | scanline | my experience with Zettai hosting picogui.org has been pretty mediocre at best |
| 02:56.27 | file | what have they been doing to be mediocre? |
| 02:57.22 | scanline | well, recently they've been pretty quiet, but a while ago George was complaining about every day that we were using too much RAM and CPU, and he was threatening repeatedly to stop hosting us or start charging us |
| 02:57.45 | scanline | he didn't seem to understand that it was caused by a memory leak in his server, and that we don't have any real money for him to get |
| 02:58.01 | file | so it was his own fault but he was blaming it on you. |
| 02:58.18 | scanline | well, it wasn't his fault either.. it was a bug in zope |
| 02:58.34 | scanline | but he was treating us like we should be paying him for support |
| 02:58.47 | file | ic |
| 03:03.27 | gonkulator | hmm... |
| 03:03.34 | gonkulator | maybe I don't even need X on my iBook |
| 03:04.13 | gonkulator | emacs, make, irssi and naim |
| 03:04.18 | gonkulator | what else could a person want ;) |
| 03:04.34 | scanline | a web browser maybe... |
| 03:04.49 | file | links |
| 03:05.05 | gonkulator | ah, good point |
| 03:05.11 | gonkulator | and an image viewer would also be helpful... |
| 03:05.28 | scanline | file: do you know if takiweb's background "processes" count threads too? |
| 03:05.43 | scanline | CIA is only one process.. but I think about 7 threads |
| 03:06.19 | scanline | yeah, 7.. I could get that as low as 2 threads, but at a performance penalty |
| 03:08.13 | file | I do not know. |
| 03:08.24 | file | 'tis best to ask him |
| 03:12.41 | gonkulator | damnit... |
| 03:13.30 | *** join/#tacobeam invader_zak (~in_your_d@navi.cs.colorado.edu) |
| 03:14.44 | scanline | getting enough bandwidth and disk space from takiweb wouldn't be all that cheap either |
| 03:14.49 | lurgyman | you'd get the impression canadia was cold or something |
| 03:14.54 | darth_mall | so lurgyman has invented a new stylied czech word fwllz |
| 03:14.54 | lurgyman | could be dangerous |
| 03:15.22 | *** join/#tacobeam evil_enchilada (~blardebla@navi.cs.colorado.edu) |
| 03:17.54 | *** join/#tacobeam purple_cow (~jupiter@navi.cs.colorado.edu) |
| 03:17.55 | *** join/#tacobeam kyrix (~zak@navi.cs.colorado.edu) |
| 03:18.01 | darth_mall | lurgyman: that's not the text, it's the workbook |
| 03:18.40 | darth_mall | wow there's a lot more pictures on this new gentoo boot disk |
| 03:19.06 | file | scanline: the memory usage, bandwidth, and disk space is what concerns me |
| 03:20.31 | scanline | hmm? |
| 03:20.51 | file | for a shell that is |
| 03:20.52 | scanline | ah |
| 03:21.09 | scanline | well, they don't say what they consider to be a lot of memory |
| 03:21.19 | scanline | and CIA uses a good bit less than Zope usually does :) |
| 03:21.26 | darth_mall | hmm... I think this cdrom drive is confusing Gentoo |
| 03:21.38 | scanline | bandwidth I'd worry about, but I don't have any numbers for CIA's current bandwidth use |
| 03:21.45 | scanline | disk space will definitely be a problem though |
| 03:22.08 | scanline | currently it needs around 50MB for the database and some log space, but the database is growing |
| 03:24.33 | pagefault | hehe |
| 03:24.36 | darth_mall | I should be able to install by booting off the network right? |
| 03:24.39 | pagefault | hehe |
| 03:24.42 | pagefault | undergrads is funny |
| 03:25.15 | scanline | darth_mall: yeah, though you'd need to set up a server for that on your machine |
| 03:25.25 | darth_mall | scanline: how do I do that? |
| 03:25.40 | pagefault | hmm |
| 03:25.42 | scanline | dunno exactly. I've used etherboot, but I'm not familiar with the stuff built into BIOSes on newer machines |
| 03:25.52 | scanline | you'll need some sort of server to provide a kernel image to the BIOS |
| 03:25.52 | gonkulator | darth_mall: what is it doing? |
| 03:25.57 | scanline | then you'll need an NFS server with the root image |
| 03:26.03 | darth_mall | gonkulator: the livecd doesn't like my cdrom drive |
| 03:26.07 | gonkulator | are you just unable to mount the gentoo CD |
| 03:26.13 | gonkulator | or does it not boot at all |
| 03:26.17 | darth_mall | it boots |
| 03:26.22 | scanline | ah |
| 03:26.25 | scanline | then you don't need to netboot |
| 03:26.28 | darth_mall | it gives me an unable to mount /newroot/dev/cdroms/* |
| 03:26.37 | scanline | netbooting it just for getting it into the kernel |
| 03:26.45 | gonkulator | so just snag the stage off of another machine over the network |
| 03:26.50 | scanline | you could try NFS root if the kernel on the CD supports it, but I'd suggest finding kernel options to fiddle with first |
| 03:26.53 | gonkulator | thats the only reason you would need to mount the CD anyway |
| 03:27.09 | scanline | er.. |
| 03:27.23 | scanline | is this error happening during the init scripts, or is it one of those VFS: unable to mount root kernel panics? |
| 03:27.55 | darth_mall | scanline: I think it's during the init scripts |
| 03:29.52 | file | scanline: I'm gonna see if I can get you access to a low level node of the cluster that hosts file-radio.com |
| 03:30.07 | file | a box that isn't used much so CIA wouldn't impact performance |
| 03:32.40 | scanline | ooh :) |
| 03:33.00 | scanline | how many machines are hosting file-radio.com, and why? |
| 03:33.39 | darth_mall | hrm |
| 03:33.45 | file | I did beta testing for the owner, (known him for... oh must be 6 years) so he granted me access, and a $400 credit for reselling |
| 03:34.05 | gonkulator | file: wow, thats pretty cool :) |
| 03:35.51 | file | nah, would be too much of a burden :\ |
| 03:36.07 | scanline | k |
| 03:36.14 | scanline | well, like I said, I'm still hoping for sunsite |
| 03:36.17 | scanline | but thanks for checking |
| 03:36.18 | file | http://hughbuchanan.com/photos/output/2003-02-February-05/dsc02192.jpg |
| 03:36.29 | file | that's file-radio.com :) |
| 03:36.38 | scanline | cute |
| 03:36.55 | lurgyman | hmm |
| 03:36.56 | captain_proton | hey neat |
| 03:37.03 | scanline | but what does file-radio.com do, and why does it need multiple machines? |
| 03:37.14 | captain_proton | apparently the quickref stuff will likely not be a problem to go in over the next few weeks |
| 03:37.17 | file | scanline: I'm a reseller :) |
| 03:37.22 | scanline | ah |
| 03:37.27 | file | and there's multiple machines to spread out the different services |
| 03:37.30 | scanline | so it's not really a radio station, you just still use that domain |
| 03:37.33 | file | yes |
| 03:37.37 | scanline | gotcha |
| 03:37.47 | file | I had people on the domain and it would have been too... frustrating to move domains |
| 03:37.50 | scanline | domains are cheap yaknow :) |
| 03:38.05 | file | plus I would have had to do some major tinkering with my account |
| 03:38.09 | scanline | your customers use file-radio.com rather than their own domains? |
| 03:38.21 | file | I can provide a sub-domain, or they can use their own domain |
| 03:38.35 | scanline | hmm |
| 03:38.55 | captain_proton | wait, what is file reselling? |
| 03:39.01 | lurgyman | ducks! |
| 03:39.02 | captain_proton | lurgyman: i could go |
| 03:39.09 | lurgyman | cool |
| 03:39.09 | file | captain_proton: web hosting. |
| 03:39.39 | MysticOne | http://www.ocremix.org/songs/Bubble_Bobble_Hillbilly_Rodeo_OC_ReMix.mp3 |
| 03:39.41 | file | For $10.00/mth you get: |
| 03:39.41 | file | 750MB storage, 20GB bandwidth, 1 SQL database, 2 SSH/FTP/POP accounts, 200 POP accounts, perl and php. |
| 03:39.48 | file | For $3.50/mth you get: |
| 03:39.48 | file | 100MB storage, 5GB bandwidth, 1 FTP/POP account, 50 POP accounts, perl and php. |
| 03:40.24 | darth_mall | arg |
| 03:40.34 | lurgyman | uh oh, it's like the lotr symphony |
| 03:40.42 | lurgyman | mostly cool because of the 'hobbits' mvt. |
| 03:40.47 | MysticOne | hehehe |
| 03:40.48 | lurgyman | and it being hilarious |
| 03:41.23 | gonkulator | scanline: I figured out a replacement for a web browser |
| 03:41.38 | scanline | you could say the same for IRC and AIM clients |
| 03:41.40 | file | or emerge lynx |
| 03:41.44 | scanline | though less so for AIMK |
| 03:41.45 | scanline | er, AIM |
| 03:41.59 | file | yeah AIM is ugly |
| 03:42.04 | darth_mall | what's an 'smp kernel'? |
| 03:42.06 | file | Oscar is REALLY ugly |
| 03:42.12 | captain_proton | darth_mall: symmetric multiprocessing |
| 03:42.14 | captain_proton | darth_mall: you don't need it |
| 03:42.15 | gonkulator | darth_mall: for multi-processor systems |
| 03:42.25 | lurgyman | teehee |
| 03:42.29 | lurgyman | it's time fer sum hobbits |
| 03:43.57 | lurgyman | leave it to some crazy composer nobody's ever heard of to use saxes in an orchestral setting and not be an impressionist |
| 03:44.48 | file | gonkulator: if you can get on AIM in telnet, I'll give you some toast :) |
| 03:45.37 | gonkulator | I could look at the toc protocol |
| 03:45.46 | gonkulator | but I am almost sure that the oscar protocol isn't telnetable |
| 03:45.49 | lurgyman | file: i can do that easy |
| 03:45.55 | lurgyman | file: naim |
| 03:46.05 | file | lurgyman: now now don't cheat :p |
| 03:46.19 | gonkulator | lurgyman: no no no... telnet toc.oscar.aol.com <portnum> :) |
| 03:46.29 | lurgyman | heh |
| 03:46.32 | file | TOC isn't that easy |
| 03:46.33 | file | gonkulator: any port |
| 03:46.41 | gonkulator | ah, good deal |
| 03:49.14 | darth_mall | why must this be such a pain? |
| 03:49.25 | gonkulator | darth_mall: cause Dell doesn't like linux :) |
| 03:49.36 | gonkulator | you'll get it |
| 03:50.21 | lurgyman | darth_mall: have you tried the gentoo forums? |
| 03:50.24 | gonkulator | wow, Kenton has great away messages |
| 03:50.37 | file | is it possible to install Gentoo via floppy and using a wifi nic? |
| 03:50.48 | scanline | file: no floppy drive |
| 03:51.00 | scanline | the CD-ROM would probably work fine if darth_mall had a boot CD with usb-storage compiled in |
| 03:51.05 | file | no I mean for me |
| 03:51.22 | scanline | yeah, I'm sure it's possible |
| 03:51.27 | lurgyman | captain_proton: i'm ready whenever you are |
| 03:51.43 | darth_mall | scanline: I think it does have support |
| 03:51.47 | scanline | all installing gentoo really involves is booting something on the machine, making a partition, and dumping a .tar.gz into it |
| 03:51.53 | gonkulator | "I guess of all my uncles, I liked my uncle cave man the best. We called him uncle cave man because he lived in a cave and because sometimes he would eat one of us. Later on we found out he was a bear." |
| 03:52.37 | darth_mall | scanline: I can actually mount the cdrom manually |
| 03:52.38 | lurgyman | gonkulator: reminds me of my uncle harry |
| 03:52.41 | file | I may not go to school tomorrow due to the cold, so I may spend my time researching installing Gentoo on my Thinkpad |
| 03:52.43 | lurgyman | gonkulator: or maybe, it was my uncle peter |
| 03:52.45 | lurgyman | i'm not sure |
| 03:53.04 | gonkulator | file: good call :) |
| 03:53.12 | gonkulator | where is carpman... |
| 03:53.19 | gonkulator | darth_mall: snes9x runs well in Gentoo! |
| 03:53.40 | darth_mall | ~whaleslap gonkulator |
| 03:53.43 | | ACTION slaps gonkulator upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
| 03:53.52 | scanline | darth_mall: ah |
| 03:54.23 | scanline | gonkulator: zsnes runs better if you're on an x86 machine |
| 03:54.28 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 03:54.29 | darth_mall | blah |
| 03:54.32 | file | ooh I have an evil idea, use a boot floppy from another distro that has wifi support, and ftp and such... |
| 03:54.40 | captain_proton | so it looks like the latest gentoo cd -should- be working |
| 03:54.42 | captain_proton | file: floppy? |
| 03:54.43 | file | create the partitions, download the files... yes this may work |
| 03:55.00 | captain_proton | darth_mall managed to mount the CD (dunno why that wasn't working) |
| 03:55.01 | scanline | so were we grocerying soon? |
| 03:55.03 | file | captain_proton: ...yes |
| 03:55.26 | captain_proton | when i tried to insert the "cloop" module it got an invalid argument - i dunno what options it needs? |
| 03:55.31 | captain_proton | file: except this machine doesn't have a floppy |
| 03:55.38 | file | captain_proton: I'm referring to my own laptop |
| 03:55.46 | lurgyman | scanline: hopefully |
| 03:55.57 | captain_proton | oh |
| 03:56.08 | scanline | er, upward |
| 03:56.09 | lurgyman | okeydokey |
| 03:56.11 | lurgyman | :) |
| 03:56.14 | gonkulator | file: I suppose you could... |
| 03:56.23 | gonkulator | file: it also needs chroot and tar |
| 03:56.37 | file | I must find... exactly what I need... |
| 03:56.55 | file | found it! |
| 03:57.45 | file | http://unwiredap.sourceforge.net/ |
| 03:58.28 | file | I'd have to muddle around with it... but eh |
| 04:01.11 | gonkulator | file: did you just say eh? |
| 04:01.16 | pagefault | what |
| 04:01.20 | pagefault | hmm |
| 04:01.25 | gonkulator | oh yeah |
| 04:01.27 | pagefault | odd |
| 04:01.29 | gonkulator | pagefault is canadian too |
| 04:01.30 | pagefault | thats software is cool |
| 04:01.51 | file | pagefault: didn't you know prism cards can be run to act as a wireless access point? |
| 04:02.07 | pagefault | yeah |
| 04:02.23 | file | well naturally somebody took that and made a linux distro to turn a computer into one |
| 04:02.32 | pagefault | good idea |
| 04:02.41 | pagefault | softwall is good too |
| 04:02.44 | pagefault | I think it supports wireless |
| 04:02.56 | pagefault | it's a router though |
| 04:05.13 | file | with a few mods this boot floppy should work, I'll have to check it's busybox though and make sure there's chroot and tar |
| 04:24.26 | gonkulator | file: make sure it can partition and format partitions too :) |
| 04:24.42 | gonkulator | so you need fdisk and mke2fs -j :) |
| 04:24.51 | gonkulator | or mkreiserfs :) |
| 04:26.59 | invader_zak | grr. |
| 04:28.19 | file | time time give me time ;) |
| 04:46.29 | captain_proton | zak: back |
| 04:46.32 | *** topic/#tacobeam by captain_proton -> #tacobeam - where the magic of showering comes to life! || don' |
| 04:46.35 | captain_proton | erg |
| 04:46.44 | *** topic/#tacobeam by captain_proton -> #tacobeam - where the magic of showering comes to life! || don't kill the green-box reader, that's what i always say |
| 04:46.53 | lurgyman | uh oh |
| 04:47.19 | zak | captain_proton: we solved it, |
| 04:47.38 | zak | amanda just lost her ip address for some strange reason, and couldn't get online, and then it was back |
| 04:47.45 | zak | we didn't do anything *shrugs* |
| 04:47.55 | captain_proton | zak: its possible that dhcpd died |
| 04:48.02 | captain_proton | i have it checking every 5m to restart it when that happens |
| 04:48.03 | scanline | it could have been dhcpd crashing.. but we have a doodad to restart that every 5min :) |
| 04:48.03 | lurgyman | seems likely, even |
| 04:48.09 | scanline | mmyep |
| 04:48.19 | scanline | windows is silly about not keeping IPs after dhcpd dies |
| 04:48.22 | captain_proton | yay for the green bus! |
| 04:48.25 | zak | i didn't lose my connection though |
| 04:48.52 | zak | and i am booted into windows, trying to convince my computer that my printer exists |
| 04:49.04 | scanline | could be you just got lucky |
| 04:49.17 | scanline | windows probably has a timer it periodically checks for the dhcp server with |
| 04:49.31 | scanline | and you'd only lose your address if that timer went off in the 5 min after dhcpd crashed |
| 04:49.53 | captain_proton | yay good music |
| 04:50.03 | scanline | same here ;) |
| 04:51.09 | lurgyman | you know |
| 04:51.43 | lurgyman | maybe it would be a good idea to make the process thingy in a loop |
| 04:51.55 | scanline | heh, maybe |
| 04:51.58 | lurgyman | instead of polling every 5 min |
| 04:52.07 | scanline | it would be even better to run it in gdb |
| 04:52.18 | lurgyman | more reliable |
| 04:52.19 | lurgyman | indeed |
| 04:52.20 | zak | ha. so now it sees it |
| 04:52.23 | zak | stupid pos |
| 04:52.43 | lurgyman | hiya zak |
| 04:52.48 | lurgyman | zak: ooh, i heard stuff about lockers today |
| 04:52.52 | lurgyman | from a lab partner |
| 04:53.00 | zak | annnnd/ |
| 04:53.22 | lurgyman | zak: apparently there are envelopes & forms somewhere around that hallway |
| 04:53.32 | zak | we should find that |
| 04:53.44 | lurgyman | then you leave them in the locker you want to check out |
| 04:53.44 | darth_mall | =\ |
| 04:53.54 | lurgyman | and they pick them up, and poof, it's your locker |
| 04:54.43 | file | magic! |
| 04:55.02 | lurgyman | zak: when are you outside of classes tomorrow? |
| 04:55.29 | zak | eh. 11-3 |
| 04:56.01 | darth_mall | goddammit |
| 04:56.06 | darth_mall | I need to be doing my homework |
| 04:56.08 | lurgyman | wanna meet at, say, 1:30? somewhere? |
| 04:57.13 | file | oh frell homework, I totally forgot I have some |
| 04:58.10 | lurgyman | oh |
| 04:58.11 | captain_proton | file: while science fiction shows may perhaps indicate otherwise, it is not chic to say "frell" |
| 04:59.47 | file | am I still here? |
| 04:59.54 | zak | 1:30? sure |
| 04:59.55 | lurgyman | zak: i don't suppose you have a clicker, by any chance...? |
| 05:00.02 | lurgyman | (cool) |
| 05:00.04 | file | great, DNS servers are down |
| 05:00.16 | scanline | oh no.. all of them? |
| 05:00.23 | file | my ISP ones :p |
| 05:00.24 | zak | lurgyman: i could share with you, but i need it from 10-11, MWF |
| 05:00.31 | lurgyman | hehe |
| 05:00.33 | lurgyman | ok |
| 05:00.34 | file | primary and secondary |
| 05:00.49 | zak | sorry |
| 05:00.52 | lurgyman | no worries :) |
| 05:00.55 | file | what's the point of a secondary if it goes down when the primary goes down? |
| 05:00.56 | zak | when do you need it? |
| 05:01.01 | lurgyman | 3-4 |
| 05:01.02 | zak | i can keep it in the locker |
| 05:01.07 | lurgyman | well... |
| 05:01.18 | lurgyman | if you don't mind, that's a good idea |
| 05:01.42 | lurgyman | since we aren't enrolled in any of each other's classes |
| 05:01.58 | zak | can do, i would just request that you pay half the fee for the clicker as i had to get a new one |
| 05:02.02 | captain_proton | woowoo, great song :) |
| 05:02.11 | zak | for tomorrow, i'll just hand it off at 1:30 |
| 05:02.11 | lurgyman | zak: fair enough :) |
| 05:02.18 | lurgyman | ok |
| 05:02.21 | zak | why don't you come down and register it for your class? |
| 05:02.22 | file | what's navi's ip? |
| 05:02.28 | lurgyman | meet in the e-center lobby? |
| 05:02.29 | lurgyman | ok |
| 05:02.32 | scanline | file: 1.2.3.4.5 |
| 05:02.43 | file | scanline: not 127.0.0.1? |
| 05:02.50 | captain_proton | 10.0.0.1 actually |
| 05:03.05 | captain_proton | and 192.168.3.1, too |
| 05:03.09 | darth_mall | grrr |
| 05:03.14 | captain_proton | i suppose atm its also 192.168.0.100 |
| 05:03.24 | scanline | and 198.11.20.73 |
| 05:03.30 | scanline | and 198.11.20.195 |
| 05:03.37 | captain_proton | =D |
| 05:03.40 | darth_mall | why did file wnat navi's ip? |
| 05:03.40 | scanline | and 128.138.207.240 |
| 05:03.49 | captain_proton | scanline: naw, that's navi-proxy |
| 05:03.54 | scanline | wow.. so navi has about 5 real IP addresses... |
| 05:03.56 | captain_proton | which is also 192.168.3.2 |
| 05:04.00 | file | to see if my router is insane or not |
| 05:04.00 | scanline | hehe |
| 05:04.56 | captain_proton | some might say that its too many rfc 1912 addresses to have on one host |
| 05:05.06 | file | I think my router is insane actually |
| 05:05.33 | captain_proton | mmm, i lub this song |
| 05:05.39 | file | I'll brb |
| 05:07.44 | *** join/#tacobeam file (~file@mctn1-7147.nb.aliant.net) |
| 05:13.39 | captain_proton | anyone else interested? |
| 05:14.21 | scanline | tempting, but I'm not really hungry |
| 05:14.31 | captain_proton | scanline: maybe in an hour or two? |
| 05:16.37 | darth_mall | goddammit |
| 05:16.47 | pagefault | I could go for some taco now |
| 05:16.47 | darth_mall | so we're supposed to do these workbook exercises |
| 05:16.48 | pagefault | mmm |
| 05:16.55 | darth_mall | but they're listening comprehension |
| 05:17.03 | darth_mall | and as far as I can tell I don't have the audio stuff to do them |
| 05:17.39 | darth_mall | ahh, I see |
| 05:17.46 | darth_mall | I needed to go to the ALTEC lab and make copies of them |
| 05:17.47 | darth_mall | arg |
| 05:17.59 | darth_mall | guess I'm sol this time |
| 05:21.08 | captain_proton | =/ |
| 05:21.28 | darth_mall | at least I have an excuse not to struggle with my Japanese right now and work on this laptop |
| 05:21.56 | captain_proton | after i finish with these homework things, you could practice your japanese by watching nuku nuku! :) |
| 05:22.23 | darth_mall | I need to get something going on this laptop or I won't sleep well |
| 05:24.38 | captain_proton | well, yeah |
| 05:25.32 | gonkulator | yay for NFS |
| 05:32.45 | darth_mall | wow I'm crashing galeon a lot |
| 05:33.40 | lurgyman | hehe |
| 05:33.41 | lurgyman | that was cool |
| 05:34.09 | lurgyman | what an interesting dealy |
| 05:34.11 | lurgyman | http://www.beliefnet.com/story/76/story_7665_1.html |
| 05:34.25 | lurgyman | it was pretty funny |
| 05:36.09 | CIA-5 | 03micah * r1746 10cia/LibCIA/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Make selecting a Formatter class cleaner, more predictable, and maybe even faster. The real reason for this though is that now formatters can take parameters from the <formatter> tags in a ruleset |
| 05:36.15 | captain_proton | bah, i already disagree with their test :) |
| 05:36.25 | captain_proton | they're grouping atheists and agnostics together |
| 05:36.29 | lurgyman | heh |
| 05:36.32 | scanline | hah |
| 05:37.01 | lurgyman | :) |
| 05:37.17 | lurgyman | but even more than that... |
| 05:37.19 | captain_proton | he got quite pissed off at how england moved from a sort of wishy-washy anglicanism to a sort of wishy-washy agnosticism |
| 05:37.25 | lurgyman | 100% unitarian :D |
| 05:37.28 | lurgyman | hehe |
| 05:38.26 | scanline | "Only natural forces (like evolution) and no Creator or spiritual forces. Or not sure. Or not important." <-- how the hell is that only one choice? |
| 05:38.56 | lurgyman | i think the different degrees of spirituality are the most important deciding factors here |
| 05:39.14 | lurgyman | but the way that influences the final result is hilarious :) |
| 05:41.02 | captain_proton | darth_mall: well - if you can get it booted into -something- with fdisk, mkreiserfs, scp, chroot & tar, then you can do gentoo |
| 05:42.03 | captain_proton | oof, 48% mormon |
| 05:42.12 | lurgyman | hehehe |
| 05:42.15 | darth_mall | I found something about doing it on a D400 and they used an rc3 livecd |
| 05:42.25 | lurgyman | huh |
| 05:42.28 | lurgyman | good luck :) |
| 05:42.45 | CIA-5 | 03micah * r1747 10cia/LibCIA/Message.py: Might help if this didn't kerplode when it hit the IRCProjectName formatter. Only keep formatters in mediumMap if they have both medium classifications and detector callables. |
| 05:42.47 | darth_mall | is 1.4 newer than 1.4rc3? |
| 05:42.53 | captain_proton | darth_mall: yeah |
| 05:43.00 | darth_mall | ah, nm then |
| 05:43.10 | darth_mall | lurgyman: yours was 1.4, I take it? |
| 05:43.14 | captain_proton | and they even made up a new name! |
| 05:43.16 | captain_proton | "nontheist" |
| 05:43.20 | darth_mall | oooh |
| 05:43.28 | darth_mall | at least it's not killographic |
| 05:43.51 | lurgyman | darth_mall: yessir |
| 05:43.59 | lurgyman | captain_proton: :) |
| 05:44.01 | lurgyman | yep |
| 05:44.15 | pagefault | hmm |
| 05:44.16 | pagefault | 2.6.1 |
| 05:44.19 | pagefault | I never saw it come out |
| 05:44.22 | pagefault | sneaked by me |
| 05:44.27 | captain_proton | lurgyman: quite |
| 05:44.47 | darth_mall | come to think of it |
| 05:44.55 | darth_mall | I'm not sure if I'm agnostic or atheist these days |
| 05:45.10 | lurgyman | not as cool as the politicalcompass.org quiz |
| 05:45.14 | darth_mall | but I'm not sure I could really consider myself a true agnostic anymore |
| 05:45.19 | scanline | I think I'm going to break their 'not applicable' button |
| 05:45.24 | lurgyman | hehe |
| 05:45.31 | captain_proton | hah, unitarianism is quite an amusing definition |
| 05:45.35 | captain_proton | "um, everyone" |
| 05:45.42 | lurgyman | :) yep |
| 05:45.58 | captain_proton | or rather |
| 05:46.05 | captain_proton | "um, everyone who isn't a bigot" |
| 05:46.09 | lurgyman | haha |
| 05:46.53 | captain_proton | hah, nihilist? |
| 05:47.25 | lurgyman | :D yep |
| 05:47.35 | scanline | "Unitarian Universalism" |
| 05:47.43 | scanline | ooh |
| 05:47.45 | lurgyman | with my already non-sensical approach to most things... it's kind of dangerous, when i think about it :) |
| 05:47.46 | lurgyman | oh well |
| 05:47.52 | scanline | I'm a 93% Liberal Quaker |
| 05:48.48 | lurgyman | hehe |
| 05:48.55 | lurgyman | scanline: i think mine ended up very similar |
| 05:48.59 | lurgyman | i think all of ours probably did |
| 05:49.06 | scanline | probably |
| 05:49.07 | scanline | hmm |
| 05:49.12 | captain_proton | argh |
| 05:49.17 | captain_proton | 46% christian scientist |
| 05:49.32 | scanline | eww |
| 05:49.45 | scanline | what's wrong with these people? |
| 05:49.53 | lurgyman | hehehe |
| 05:49.57 | scanline | and.. 24% roman catholic! |
| 05:50.02 | lurgyman | wow |
| 05:50.06 | lurgyman | that's more roman catholic than me :) |
| 05:50.10 | scanline | even though for the most part I answered that God is not applicable |
| 05:50.16 | lurgyman | yep |
| 05:50.22 | captain_proton | wow |
| 05:50.30 | lurgyman | so apparently catholics believe only 76% in god? |
| 05:50.32 | captain_proton | i'm more than twice the scientologist than i am the catholic |
| 05:50.44 | darth_mall | I don't think they quite understand the notion of karma |
| 05:51.11 | lurgyman | :) of course not |
| 05:51.22 | lurgyman | they have one eastern-philosophy answer for each question |
| 05:51.25 | lurgyman | which is kind of silly |
| 05:51.33 | lurgyman | since there are more than one kind of eastern philosophy |
| 05:52.01 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 05:52.08 | captain_proton | atheist, daoist secular humanist :) |
| 05:52.13 | lurgyman | haha |
| 05:52.59 | lurgyman | blurb? |
| 05:53.14 | darth_mall | hmmm... |
| 05:53.22 | darth_mall | 100% mainline to liberal christian protestants |
| 05:53.25 | darth_mall | whatever that means |
| 05:53.30 | captain_proton | lurgyman: it gives you a blurb on it when you click on them |
| 05:53.40 | darth_mall | 98% lib. Quaker |
| 05:53.44 | darth_mall | same for UU |
| 05:53.50 | darth_mall | lol |
| 05:53.57 | darth_mall | 43% scientology |
| 05:54.08 | lurgyman | ah |
| 05:54.10 | darth_mall | rofl |
| 05:54.11 | lurgyman | hehehe |
| 05:54.15 | darth_mall | 12% roman catholic |
| 05:54.21 | lurgyman | what a hilarious sight |
| 05:54.31 | darth_mall | that's great because everyone in my dad's family is catholic, 'cept him |
| 05:55.02 | lurgyman | hehe |
| 05:55.14 | darth_mall | except that that is a very christian view of karma |
| 05:55.15 | lurgyman | darth_mall the liberal quaker!!! |
| 05:55.21 | darth_mall | no |
| 05:55.29 | darth_mall | I'm a mainline to liberal christian protestant |
| 05:55.33 | captain_proton | karma is more a hindu thing than buddhist |
| 05:55.43 | darth_mall | captain_proton: not true |
| 05:55.57 | lurgyman | yes true |
| 05:55.58 | darth_mall | have you read the 4 noble truths? |
| 05:56.10 | lurgyman | buddhism is more of a way of life than a religion |
| 05:56.15 | darth_mall | that's true |
| 05:56.20 | darth_mall | but they believe in karma, generally |
| 05:56.21 | lurgyman | it isn't going to instill specific stuff about afterlives and whatnot |
| 05:56.30 | darth_mall | ummm... |
| 05:56.34 | darth_mall | depends |
| 05:56.39 | darth_mall | they do believe in reincarnation |
| 05:56.57 | captain_proton | some |
| 05:57.18 | darth_mall | whichever sect the Dalai Lama belongs to does |
| 05:57.34 | gonkulator | lets see how I come out |
| 05:58.12 | lurgyman | hehe |
| 05:58.12 | darth_mall | I can't remember the guy's title |
| 05:58.12 | captain_proton | wow, strange |
| 05:58.12 | captain_proton | http://www.beliefnet.com/story/80/story_8051_1.html |
| 05:58.41 | lurgyman | darth_mall: well, us Boulder folk have been surrounded by Buddhists since... for ever :) |
| 05:58.58 | lurgyman | my geology teacher is buddhist, i'm betting |
| 05:59.00 | lurgyman | hehe |
| 05:59.01 | darth_mall | lurgyman: but are they actually buddhist? or do they just pretend |
| 05:59.09 | darth_mall | and to which kind of buddhism |
| 05:59.11 | darth_mall | cuz there are many |
| 05:59.12 | lurgyman | there's a temple around somewheres |
| 05:59.17 | captain_proton | darth_mall: uhm - there's quite the giant temple on pearl street |
| 05:59.37 | darth_mall | right, but what kind of buddhism |
| 05:59.38 | captain_proton | i think its second in size only to first pres |
| 06:00.13 | darth_mall | cuz I know that whichever the dalai lama is head of believes in both reincarnation and karma |
| 06:00.23 | darth_mall | though, lurgyman, is right in that they don't view it as a religion, but a way of lif |
| 06:00.26 | darth_mall | erm... life |
| 06:00.50 | captain_proton | darth_mall: well, i still hold that its a more important concept in hinduism than buddhism ;) |
| 06:01.02 | darth_mall | maybe |
| 06:01.26 | lurgyman | darth_mall: well, he very well may, but Buddhism itself doesn't say what you should believe, it's more of a set of guidelines to reach your own conclusions |
| 06:01.43 | gonkulator | hehehe |
| 06:01.44 | darth_mall | lurgyman: that's true |
| 06:01.46 | gonkulator | big surprise |
| 06:01.51 | captain_proton | here's a nice summary written by some christan religious studies major: http://www.beliefnet.com/story/80/story_8047_1.html |
| 06:01.53 | lurgyman | that would be the conclusion he met |
| 06:02.00 | darth_mall | but there are a lot of common beliefs |
| 06:02.36 | gonkulator | and I begrudge the whole 44% I got that was Mormonism |
| 06:02.54 | gonkulator | lurgyman: surprised? |
| 06:03.10 | captain_proton | ``a mormon is someone who has the religion and bad taste to do what most people are prevented from doing by concientious scruples and the police'' |
| 06:03.16 | lurgyman | gonkulator: nope :) |
| 06:03.21 | lurgyman | captain_proton: hahahaha |
| 06:03.23 | lurgyman | wow |
| 06:04.12 | darth_mall | dooodoodoo |
| 06:04.34 | lurgyman | wow, still 100% unitarian, but nothing else is above 90% now |
| 06:04.45 | darth_mall | you are? |
| 06:04.53 | lurgyman | according to the quiz :) |
| 06:04.57 | lurgyman | just like captain_proton and scanline |
| 06:04.59 | lurgyman | haha |
| 06:05.17 | lurgyman | gonkulator and darth_mall can have deep discussions now on the right approach to being a quaker |
| 06:05.28 | lurgyman | hmm |
| 06:05.30 | lurgyman | 5. Theravada Buddhism (82%) |
| 06:05.32 | gonkulator | lol @ lurgyman |
| 06:05.40 | lurgyman | 6. Neo-Pagan (71%) |
| 06:06.11 | lurgyman | ooh |
| 06:06.13 | lurgyman | 12. Bahá'í Faith (54%) |
| 06:06.17 | lurgyman | hehe |
| 06:06.35 | captain_proton | apparently there's a fairly large solstice celebration that goes on near here |
| 06:06.38 | captain_proton | lurgyman: i linked to it earlier |
| 06:06.41 | lurgyman | ooh |
| 06:06.41 | lurgyman | ah |
| 06:07.03 | lurgyman | oh, they're like hippy unitarians |
| 06:07.05 | captain_proton | its like the next generation after islam |
| 06:07.37 | lurgyman | :) |
| 06:08.17 | gonkulator | my lowest is "Nontheist" at 31% |
| 06:08.17 | lurgyman | they believe in pretty much all the prophets, plus wood sprites and stuff |
| 06:08.17 | lurgyman | wow |
| 06:08.17 | lurgyman | my lowest is Roman Catholic |
| 06:08.17 | lurgyman | huh |
| 06:08.17 | lurgyman | :) |
| 06:08.17 | captain_proton | aka "can't make up their damn mind" |
| 06:08.17 | lurgyman | haha |
| 06:08.17 | lurgyman | yep |
| 06:08.40 | lurgyman | captain_proton: did you do the politicalcompass.org thing? |
| 06:08.46 | captain_proton | lurgyman: yeah |
| 06:09.24 | lurgyman | ooh, what'd it say? are you an authoritarian commie? :) |
| 06:09.31 | gonkulator | ok |
| 06:09.57 | lurgyman | hehe |
| 06:10.17 | captain_proton | lurgyman: heh, no |
| 06:10.19 | captain_proton | libertarian commie |
| 06:11.24 | lurgyman | yay! |
| 06:11.26 | lurgyman | just like zak and i |
| 06:11.31 | lurgyman | though... |
| 06:12.28 | captain_proton | ok, i think i'm going to order silvermine now |
| 06:12.34 | captain_proton | who wants stuff? |
| 06:12.44 | zak | heh |
| 06:13.05 | zak | pas moi, mas merci |
| 06:13.18 | zak | s/mas/mais |
| 06:14.03 | captain_proton | scanline? |
| 06:15.01 | scanline | hmmm |
| 06:17.19 | zak | hahah! |
| 06:17.23 | zak | i am a liberal quaker! |
| 06:17.41 | zak | and only 97% unitarian universalism |
| 06:18.18 | gonkulator | zak: I guess we get to talk about what it means to be a quaker too :) |
| 06:18.22 | zak | (what the hell is a liberal quaker? one who uses says a swear when stubbing their toe?) |
| 06:18.33 | zak | s/swear/swear word |
| 06:19.00 | zak | i am also mainline to liberal christian protestant? say what? hahaha |
| 06:19.29 | captain_proton | zak: if you click on the names it'll give you a fairly crummy summary of it |
| 06:19.30 | zak | ok this quiz is...intersting. |
| 06:19.40 | scanline | <CIA-1> agent_tigert * r2272 /: |
| 06:19.41 | scanline | <CIA-1> Updated the makefile yet again. Test classes in the database subsystem. Rewrite |
| 06:19.41 | scanline | <CIA-1> the recent files in the graphics subsystem. Break the old files in the network |
| 06:19.41 | scanline | <CIA-1> module. Break all classes in the lego subsystem. Fixed this for the third time. |
| 06:19.41 | scanline | <CIA-1> Closes bug #54316 |
| 06:19.47 | scanline | at least they're longer now |
| 06:20.06 | captain_proton | :) |
| 06:20.21 | scanline | <CIA-1> talkiemuffin42 * r2 /: Good thing I was wearing my bullet-proof socks. Rewrote this. Closes bug #49542 |
| 06:20.31 | zak | heh. |
| 06:20.41 | scanline | <CIA-1> diablo * r3 /: Rewrote the makefile. Test the classes in the lego package. Explode tasty files in the operating system package. Explode bits near the graphics subsystem. Updated everything. Cleaning up after ensign_zoidberg42. |
| 06:20.47 | scanline | mmmyep |
| 06:21.21 | zak | right then. |
| 06:21.23 | CIA-5 | 03micah * r1748 10cia/tools/RandomMessage.py: Improve the random commit message generator slightly so the messages are varied enough to be useful in testing parameterized formatters |
| 06:22.22 | gonkulator | lol |
| 06:24.09 | lurgyman | maybe they'll play Mahler 7 as well :) |
| 06:24.22 | captain_proton | ifs needs to post their spring series |
| 06:24.37 | lurgyman | them too |
| 06:24.42 | lurgyman | hmm |
| 06:24.49 | captain_proton | ooh, they just did |
| 06:24.58 | lurgyman | "Sincerely, The Clicker People" that's an... interesting signature |
| 06:24.59 | lurgyman | ooh |
| 06:25.21 | captain_proton | hrpmh, looks like none of the summaries work |
| 06:25.27 | darth_mall | now there's an awesome lyric: "silicon chips make choices" |
| 06:25.28 | captain_proton | just links to the CU 404 |
| 06:25.31 | CIA-5 | 03micah * r1749 10cia/tools/ (RandomMessage.py message_generator.py): Small randomLog tweaks, ignore socket errors so I can leave the message generator running while poking at the server |
| 06:25.51 | captain_proton | sweet! |
| 06:25.55 | gonkulator | sounds yummy |
| 06:25.55 | captain_proton | they're showing american astronaut again |
| 06:25.58 | lurgyman | ummm |
| 06:25.59 | lurgyman | yeah |
| 06:26.04 | scanline | yay! |
| 06:26.07 | lurgyman | i was wondering about that Alferd Packerd thing too... |
| 06:26.10 | scanline | and we're ALL going! |
| 06:26.30 | scanline | gentlemen, let the dance contest begin! |
| 06:26.48 | captain_proton | yes |
| 06:26.54 | captain_proton | especially those who haven't seen it |
| 06:26.56 | captain_proton | like gonkulator |
| 06:27.16 | lurgyman | they really need to fix them links |
| 06:27.25 | lurgyman | d'oh |
| 06:27.32 | lurgyman | meh. |
| 06:27.40 | captain_proton | =/ |
| 06:27.58 | captain_proton | hm |
| 06:27.59 | captain_proton | http://imdb.com/title/tt0115819/ |
| 06:28.32 | darth_mall | captain_proton: you placed an order for food? |
| 06:28.42 | captain_proton | darth_mall: yes |
| 06:28.51 | darth_mall | rofl |
| 06:29.00 | darth_mall | In the tradition of Friday the 13th Part 2... and Oklahoma comes the first intelligent movie about cannibalism! |
| 06:29.07 | captain_proton | darth_mall: you've seen american astronaut, right? |
| 06:30.44 | darth_mall | uh huh |
| 06:30.49 | captain_proton | good |
| 06:31.10 | captain_proton | so i think its just gonkulator (at least from the locals in here atm) |
| 06:31.27 | darth_mall | bad gonkulator! |
| 06:31.43 | darth_mall | ya know, I bet this debian cd isn't going to be any better than the gentoo |
| 06:32.17 | captain_proton | darth_mall: why not? |
| 06:32.53 | darth_mall | captain_proton: just a feeling |
| 06:33.03 | lurgyman | did zak see it last time we went? |
| 06:33.34 | captain_proton | lurgyman: yeah |
| 06:34.45 | lurgyman | okeydoke |
| 06:36.15 | gonkulator | argh |
| 06:36.21 | gonkulator | why must X11 take so damn long to compile |
| 06:37.41 | lurgyman | just to spite you |
| 06:38.50 | gonkulator | actually... |
| 06:39.04 | gonkulator | what I should have done is enable distcc and have my other iBook help |
| 06:41.17 | lurgyman | :) |
| 06:41.29 | lurgyman | distcc is disabled for XFree86 anyways |
| 06:42.54 | gonkulator | oh |
| 06:42.56 | gonkulator | well damn |
| 06:46.40 | scanline | wow... |
| 06:46.42 | scanline | <CIA-1> xdog: professor_bologna3 * r44 /: |
| 06:46.42 | scanline | <CIA-1> xdog: Explode the tasty files in the lego package. Explode all files near the |
| 06:46.42 | scanline | <CIA-1> xdog: operating system package. Explode a few classes in the operating system package. |
| 06:46.42 | scanline | <CIA-1> xdog: Retested this yet again. Cleaning up after zoidberg. Let's hope lurgyyam doesn't |
| 06:46.42 | scanline | <CIA-1> xdog: notice. Closes bug #92470 |
| 06:47.19 | scanline | "Break the squirrels"... |
| 06:48.27 | gonkulator | oooh |
| 06:48.32 | gonkulator | its doing make install type stuff |
| 06:48.37 | lurgyman | ~whaleslap zoidberg |
| 06:48.41 | | ACTION slaps zoidberg upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
| 06:50.11 | darth_mall | food!! |
| 06:50.29 | gonkulator | food |
| 06:50.32 | gonkulator | thats a good idea |
| 06:50.45 | scanline | food! |
| 06:51.41 | gonkulator | oooh |
| 06:51.44 | gonkulator | its installing fonts |
| 06:54.02 | lurgyman | hurray! |
| 06:55.50 | gonkulator | :-D |
| 06:55.55 | gonkulator | it might finish before too long |
| 06:56.35 | gonkulator | ooh, its copying them over now |
| 06:59.23 | gonkulator | and, now I emerge aumix |
| 06:59.25 | gonkulator | and vim |
| 06:59.28 | gonkulator | and emacs :) |
| 06:59.34 | gonkulator | cause X is done :) |
| 07:00.44 | captain_proton | vim -and- emacs?? |
| 07:01.50 | gonkulator | captain_proton: its all about my mood of the day |
| 07:02.23 | gonkulator | sometimes I feel like a ctrl-x ctrl-s, others I feel like a :wq |
| 07:02.34 | captain_proton | how about a ZZ? |
| 07:04.58 | darth_mall | quick someone tell me what to listen to |
| 07:05.13 | captain_proton | darth_mall: vertes! |
| 07:05.17 | scanline | /dev/cheese |
| 07:05.29 | darth_mall | ok |
| 07:07.22 | captain_proton | hm, there's a new word for me |
| 07:07.24 | captain_proton | kouhii :) |
| 07:07.33 | gonkulator | darth_mall: what are you doing? |
| 07:08.05 | darth_mall | gonkulator: gonna see if a debian boot disc will work better |
| 07:08.36 | gonkulator | ah, ok |
| 07:09.27 | scanline | captain_proton: cute? |
| 07:09.39 | captain_proton | scanline: coffee! |
| 07:09.47 | scanline | ah |
| 07:10.04 | captain_proton | made sense when i thought about it, but hadn't occurred to me before |
| 07:10.21 | scanline | hey, diablo's on |
| 07:10.46 | *** mode/#tacobeam [+o scanline] by ChanServ |
| 07:11.01 | *** mode/#tacobeam [-o scanline] by scanline |
| 07:11.05 | captain_proton | heh |
| 07:11.26 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 07:11.43 | darth_mall | captain_proton: I'm not sure if that counts as a new word, per se ^^ |
| 07:11.52 | darth_mall | that's like painappuru |
| 07:12.04 | captain_proton | =} |
| 07:12.09 | darth_mall | ;) |
| 07:12.16 | scanline | cool and hip! |
| 07:12.34 | darth_mall | here's a good phrase for you though: |
| 07:12.44 | darth_mall | koohii ga dai suki desu |
| 07:12.59 | darth_mall | (not sure if that 'ga' belongs there or not, but it sounds right) |
| 07:13.13 | darth_mall | well, maybe not |
| 07:13.16 | darth_mall | s/ga// |
| 07:19.04 | captain_proton | haha, catnip launcher |
| 07:33.53 | darth_mall | well, the good news is it looks like I atleast made the debian cd correctly |
| 07:34.12 | lurgyman | uh oh |
| 07:34.26 | darth_mall | and it looks like the debian cd might be working |
| 07:36.40 | gonkulator | yay |
| 07:38.07 | darth_mall | so do I brave Reiser4 or try something else? |
| 07:38.08 | CIA-5 | 03micah * r1750 10cia/LibCIA/ (Formatters.py Message.py Ruleset.py): |
| 07:38.09 | CIA-5 | First functional method for setting line limit and width limit values and such |
| 07:38.09 | CIA-5 | for the commit formatter from inside a ruleset. This works, but I might change |
| 07:38.09 | CIA-5 | things around some more before calling this stable, to expose more flexibility |
| 07:38.09 | CIA-5 | to the ruleset. |
| 07:40.34 | gonkulator | and now, I get a snack |
| 07:41.28 | gonkulator | Reiser4 will be a fun adventure :) |
| 07:41.50 | scanline | I'd probably go with some form of reiser, as XFS is more navi's type than a laptop's |
| 07:41.51 | darth_mall | might as well ^^ |
| 07:42.39 | darth_mall | and the more I say it, the more betterer that name seems |
| 07:42.46 | lurgyman | hehe |
| 07:43.04 | darth_mall | I should use ext2 for /boot? |
| 07:43.06 | lurgyman | reiser4 would involve patching the kernel :) but is not out of the question |
| 07:43.39 | lurgyman | as the benefits of journaling are quite a good thing for such an important partition |
| 07:45.38 | scanline | death_yam! |
| 07:46.19 | lurgyman | hehe |
| 07:47.01 | gonkulator | damnit |
| 07:47.08 | darth_mall | hmmm not seein reiser in here |
| 07:48.05 | captain_proton | darth_mall: i'd just do reiser3 ;) |
| 07:56.35 | scanline | yay, more runtime code patching... |
| 07:58.21 | gonkulator | this is painful |
| 07:59.25 | darth_mall | well, it looks like I'll at least be able to get some form of leenukes on Yomiko |
| 07:59.37 | darth_mall | Gentoo is gonna still take a little work |
| 07:59.51 | scanline | what's wrong with gentoo on it now? |
| 08:00.19 | darth_mall | scanline: the debian disc doesn't come with enough tools to do gentoo just now |
| 08:00.28 | scanline | what's it missing? |
| 08:00.33 | darth_mall | no mkreiserfs, no ssh |
| 08:00.43 | scanline | does it have netcat? |
| 08:00.45 | scanline | (nc) |
| 08:00.55 | captain_proton | scanline: its got barely any drivers |
| 08:00.59 | scanline | ah |
| 08:01.12 | scanline | well, you could burn a CD with some static binaries :) |
| 08:01.13 | captain_proton | darth_mall: if you want help with a ninja-style in-place replacement at some point, i'd be happy to work on it |
| 08:01.59 | gonkulator | crap |
| 08:02.43 | darth_mall | well, it's kinda in the middle of something ATM, I'll look momentarily |
| 08:02.43 | darth_mall | it's running bad blocks on my main partition |
| 08:02.49 | darth_mall | hmm... this song is kinda like listening to Bob Dylan in French |
| 08:02.50 | scanline | a promise to a long-lost friend whom you may never see again due to the CIA's coverup of elvis's funeral? |
| 08:03.02 | gonkulator | that sounds like TMBG :) |
| 08:03.35 | darth_mall | nope |
| 08:03.51 | gonkulator | damn |
| 08:03.53 | gonkulator | brb |
| 08:03.53 | darth_mall | captain_proton: ok, but there are still other things to be tried first ^^ |
| 08:03.55 | captain_proton | hmm, hopefully eventually this hoshi no koe torrent will finish |
| 08:05.23 | scanline | gonkulator: tabloid footprints in your hair, tabloid footprints everywhere |
| 08:05.51 | scanline | damnit, more people need to be committing things in XML right now... |
| 08:06.10 | darth_mall | well that was annoying |
| 08:06.16 | darth_mall | there was no way to win that game |
| 08:06.54 | captain_proton | darth_mall: ? |
| 08:07.09 | darth_mall | monkey bubbles |
| 08:07.24 | captain_proton | oh, got a bum set of bubbles? |
| 08:09.00 | gonkulator | can't sleep... cosplayers will eat me |
| 08:09.02 | darth_mall | yeah |
| 08:09.10 | CIA-5 | 03micah * r1751 10cia/LibCIA/Web/Stats/Feed.py: Fix internal server errors generating RSS feeds |
| 08:10.24 | captain_proton | grr, the transcode maintainer needs to stop drinking and start working |
| 08:10.35 | gonkulator | hmm... maybe I should give the minix file system a try |
| 08:11.21 | captain_proton | gonkulator: whatever you're smoking, i want some |
| 08:11.28 | scanline | hehe |
| 08:11.34 | gonkulator | :-D |
| 08:11.59 | captain_proton | no |
| 08:12.00 | captain_proton | usbdevfs |
| 08:12.06 | scanline | oh, right |
| 08:12.35 | scanline | and.. a filesystem that understands usb-storage |
| 08:12.52 | darth_mall | everyone knows that lurgy3.14 fs is the way to go |
| 08:13.14 | captain_proton | scanline: sick :) |
| 08:14.03 | captain_proton | even better would be some sort of networkable uri scheme for the whole thing |
| 08:14.11 | captain_proton | and guids for usb devices |
| 08:14.12 | CIA-5 | 03micah * r1752 10cia/TODO: Check parameterized formatters off the TODO list |
| 08:14.20 | scanline | =) |
| 08:14.24 | scanline | yep |
| 08:14.52 | gonkulator | when is there going to be a vigor ebuild... |
| 08:15.15 | captain_proton | ooh, that'd be neat |
| 08:15.15 | scanline | linus just knows he wants expat in the kernel =) |
| 08:15.53 | captain_proton | scanline: that sort of thing is perhaps better suited to sysfs |
| 08:15.57 | captain_proton | err |
| 08:16.00 | captain_proton | i mean |
| 08:16.04 | captain_proton | that one thing |
| 08:16.12 | scanline | yeah, I know what you're talking about |
| 08:16.13 | captain_proton | userland fs stuff |
| 08:16.32 | scanline | hehe, sysfs... /proc/sys/uri/http/navi/svn/misc... |
| 08:17.37 | gonkulator | oh n |
| 08:17.43 | gonkulator | that is to say |
| 08:17.46 | gonkulator | oh no! not lurgyman :) |
| 08:18.02 | darth_mall | lol this is funny |
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| 08:18.41 | captain_proton | darth_mall: yes, it needs some UI work ;) |
| 08:18.54 | darth_mall | it's funny when you do that |
| 08:19.01 | darth_mall | just let it kinda randomly place them |
| 08:19.08 | Diablo-D3 | Hah hah you losers. |
| 08:19.14 | scanline | dangerous like.. 8 bit theatre |
| 08:19.22 | gonkulator | hehehe |
| 08:19.29 | darth_mall | scanline: quite |
| 08:19.50 | lurgyman | hehe |
| 08:19.54 | scanline | Diablo-D3: only one of us here accepted a channel invitation to a place filled with people that laugh at you constantly |
| 08:19.55 | lurgyman | boing boing boing |
| 08:19.58 | darth_mall | holy shit |
| 08:20.06 | darth_mall | it's late |
| 08:20.11 | gonkulator | yep :)_ |
| 08:20.14 | scanline | heh, so it is |
| 08:20.19 | lurgyman | darth_mall: when do you have classes tomorrow morning? |
| 08:20.21 | darth_mall | damn this monkey bubble |
| 08:20.25 | darth_mall | lurgyman: not til 11 |
| 08:20.26 | darth_mall | but still |
| 08:20.29 | captain_proton | is anyone planning to bum a ride off me tomorrow morning? |
| 08:20.30 | pagefault | hooky! |
| 08:20.38 | gonkulator | pagefault: damn straight! |
| 08:20.40 | darth_mall | I'm pretty wiped out from today and last night and I didn't sleep much last night either |
| 08:20.42 | lurgyman | captain_proton: i'm not |
| 08:21.10 | darth_mall | that's also when I shall be leaving the apartment area |
| 08:21.20 | captain_proton | gonkulator: you mean you're coming here, right? |
| 08:21.51 | lurgyman | yay for catch-22 having been ludicrously cool |
| 08:22.27 | gonkulator | captain_proton: I suppose I could |
| 08:22.29 | gonkulator | sure :) |
| 08:22.42 | gonkulator | want me to bring anything (other than the hard disk controller I don't have) |
| 08:23.33 | lurgyman | well, you could get the disk controller, then bring the disk controller you do have :) |
| 08:24.02 | lurgyman | whee |
| 08:24.12 | lurgyman | IRC becomes a different experience when i read that book too much |
| 08:24.20 | gonkulator | which book is this? |
| 08:24.25 | lurgyman | Catch-22 |
| 08:24.31 | gonkulator | oh, and someone submitted a quote of mine to bash.org todayh |
| 08:24.42 | gonkulator | if it gets approved, I'll finally have an entry in there |
| 08:24.59 | gonkulator | I didn't think it was that funny, but it might get in anyway |
| 08:25.42 | lurgyman | He leaned forward slightly and his manner took on a shrewd and significant air. "You could even be," he added, "Washington Irving, couldn't you?" |
| 08:25.59 | lurgyman | "Washington Irving?" the chaplain repeated with surprise. |
| 08:26.28 | lurgyman | "Come on, Washington," the corpulent colonel broke in irascibly. "Why don't you make a clean breast of it? We know you stole that plum tomato." |
| 08:26.49 | lurgyman | :) |
| 08:33.47 | lurgyman | heh |
| 08:35.20 | gonkulator | you know, that simpsons halloween episode where Bart has the "shinnin" makes a lot more sense now that I am actually watching the shining |
| 08:37.08 | lurgyman | hehe |
| 08:38.21 | lurgyman | hurray! |
| 08:38.42 | gonkulator | hehehe |
| 08:38.44 | lurgyman | hmm |
| 08:38.50 | gonkulator | whats the lurgy? |
| 08:38.56 | lurgyman | it's from the goon show |
| 08:38.59 | lurgyman | originally |
| 08:39.08 | lurgyman | though it's come to mean, in british slang, a fake disease |
| 08:39.21 | lurgyman | so if you were to call in sick with the lurgy, they'd know you were faking it |
| 08:39.24 | lurgyman | in Britain |
| 08:39.26 | lurgyman | whereas here |
| 08:39.33 | lurgyman | they'd just be confused, prolley :p |
| 08:39.43 | gonkulator | I have a brittish friend at work :) |
| 08:39.47 | lurgyman | hehe |
| 08:39.58 | lurgyman | hehe |
| 08:40.03 | gonkulator | and go up to boulder instead |
| 08:40.23 | captain_proton | gonkulator: its probably more in common knowledge among our parent |
| 08:40.30 | captain_proton | 's generation of brits |
| 08:40.47 | lurgyman | yep |
| 08:40.48 | lurgyman | though |
| 08:40.49 | gonkulator | captain_proton: this guy is in his mid thirties |
| 08:41.00 | gonkulator | so between generations I guess... |
| 08:41.22 | lurgyman | you should at least use it in casual conversation at some point :) |
| 08:41.58 | lurgyman | huh |
| 08:41.59 | lurgyman | http://www.wordreference.com/english/definition.asp?en=lurgy |
| 08:42.56 | lurgyman | ooh |
| 08:42.58 | lurgyman | http://www.twochapstalking.com/dictarchive/000130.html |
| 08:44.36 | scanline | what the... |
| 08:44.42 | scanline | 600 hits from proxyscanner.freenode.net? |
| 08:45.02 | darth_mall | mklurgyfs --farkingdjoodles |
| 08:45.05 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 08:45.18 | captain_proton | i thought it was furking djudles :) |
| 08:45.24 | darth_mall | could be |
| 08:45.47 | captain_proton | so yeah |
| 08:45.55 | captain_proton | hopefully tomorrow we'll have this: http://www.animenfo.com/animetitle,893,ikcgjk,hoshi_no_koe.html |
| 08:46.12 | lurgyman | hehe |
| 08:46.50 | captain_proton | (the first major production by the kumo no mokou folks) |
| 08:48.09 | captain_proton | hmm, /me is looking forward to geobreeders |
| 08:48.17 | captain_proton | "guess those vegetable men were after the phantom cats?" |
| 08:48.22 | lurgyman | heh |
| 08:48.23 | captain_proton | lurgyman: hahaha |
| 08:49.02 | lurgyman | but i'll save it for when they start using slang i'm not familiar with |
| 08:49.24 | darth_mall | time to be horizontal and admire the backs of my eyelids |
| 08:49.25 | darth_mall | night kids |
| 08:49.29 | gonkulator | night darth_mall |
| 08:49.52 | captain_proton | 'night darth_mall |
| 08:50.23 | lurgyman | they'll be like, "what are you, lairy, or somethin'?" and i'll be like "fo' shizzle ma nizzle" |
| 08:53.08 | captain_proton | i think you should rather just do the cowboy thing |
| 08:53.19 | captain_proton | "where do you folks park yer hoss?" |
| 08:53.36 | lurgyman | hehe |
| 08:54.41 | lurgyman | "yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehaw, partnar, i wuz just lookin' fer thuh baaaaaaaaaanjo shop an' ah wuz wundrin' if yew cood help me out uh bit..." |
| 08:55.12 | ChipX86|Gone | hey everyone |
| 08:55.15 | lurgyman | and overalls |
| 08:55.17 | lurgyman | hiya ChipX86|Gone |
| 08:55.33 | captain_proton | lurgyman: and jeans, and a belt with a big buckle |
| 08:55.40 | Diablo-D3 | scanline: yes, I agree, this channel is full of morons. |
| 08:55.57 | ChipX86|Gone | raise your hand if you ever almost got over by a high-speed chase where the intention is to kill the chasee? |
| 08:56.16 | ChipX86|Gone | hi Diablo-D3 |
| 08:56.41 | Diablo-D3 | hi chip |
| 08:57.02 | Diablo-D3 | that sentance you just wrote doesnt make sense |
| 08:57.02 | captain_proton | scanline: i must agree, that whole bash-on-diablo thing the other day was a bit unfounded |
| 08:57.09 | captain_proton | its been a while since he said anything truly boneheaded |
| 08:57.10 | lurgyman | captain_proton: yehaw! indeed |
| 08:57.29 | lurgyman | and cowboy boots |
| 08:57.34 | lurgyman | and a plaid shirt |
| 08:57.47 | ChipX86|Gone | Diablo-D3: I was almost hit by a guy on a bike in San Francisco, who was not about to slow down, because guys in two black vans were trying to literally kill him as we watched |
| 08:58.09 | lurgyman | yikes |
| 08:58.16 | Diablo-D3 | ChipX86|Gone: ack |
| 08:58.21 | ChipX86|Gone | it was.. quite an experience |
| 08:58.27 | ChipX86|Gone | I imagine he's dead now |
| 08:58.35 | ChipX86|Gone | they were not joking around |
| 08:58.50 | ChipX86|Gone | and if he had hit me, we probably would have been in the damage path |
| 08:59.14 | captain_proton | little do you know, the cycler was secretly SADDAM HUSSEIN! |
| 08:59.19 | ChipX86|Gone | OH NO! |
| 08:59.25 | Diablo-D3 | captain_proton: thats not funny |
| 08:59.28 | lurgyman | he was after our krispy kreme |
| 08:59.32 | ChipX86|Gone | he didn't look anything like him, but you know, I think it was! |
| 08:59.36 | Diablo-D3 | actually, yeah it is. |
| 08:59.54 | scanline | captain_proton: a little.. though I long ago lost any sympathy for Diablo-D3 and I don't think I'll regain it with time |
| 08:59.56 | captain_proton | lurgyman: KILL THE BASTARD! |
| 09:00.15 | Diablo-D3 | Heh, Im waiting for them to announce saddam hussein got loose |
| 09:00.28 | captain_proton | so they can catch him again? |
| 09:00.41 | Diablo-D3 | Yeah |
| 09:00.55 | Diablo-D3 | Bush comes out of no where and tackles him or something |
| 09:00.56 | captain_proton | i dunno if that would have the desired effect |
| 09:01.47 | Diablo-D3 | Well, if he got loose, and bush personally tackled him, Im pretty sure bush would get re-elected |
| 09:02.21 | lurgyman | um |
| 09:02.30 | lurgyman | bush won't need much help in that department |
| 09:02.50 | Diablo-D3 | geh, I hope bush doesnt get re-elected |
| 09:03.07 | Diablo-D3 | I really really hope that doesnt happen |
| 09:03.07 | Diablo-D3 | it would be the end of the world or something |
| 09:03.43 | lurgyman | uhhuh |
| 09:03.47 | lurgyman | it happened with Raegan |
| 09:03.50 | lurgyman | it will happen again |
| 09:03.54 | lurgyman | thank god for term limits |
| 09:04.07 | Diablo-D3 | okay, not really, but it'd still be pretty bad |
| 09:04.15 | captain_proton | yay, question asked, time to pass out for 6 hours :P |
| 09:04.28 | ChipX86|Gone | heh |
| 09:04.32 | ChipX86|Gone | g'night captain_proton |
| 09:04.35 | captain_proton | 'night |
| 09:04.52 | ChipX86|Gone | mm.. tomorrow I'm back on a 1280x1024 screen |
| 09:05.01 | Diablo-D3 | night captain_proton |
| 09:05.02 | ChipX86|Gone | 640x480, 16 colors... it just isn't cutting it |
| 09:05.20 | Diablo-D3 | lurgyman: what did the american people that was so bad that they need to be punished like this? |
| 09:05.36 | Diablo-D3 | and atleast regan got shot. |
| 09:05.38 | lurgyman | well |
| 09:05.46 | lurgyman | the last election is a start |
| 09:06.29 | lurgyman | uh |
| 09:06.54 | lurgyman | yeah, you're 100% correct. Reagan got shot. So did Lincoln, iirc. And McKinley. |
| 09:06.56 | gonkulator | yay for configuring a kernel for iBook #1 |
| 09:07.20 | lurgyman | yay |
| 09:07.27 | Diablo-D3 | Well, Lincoln was a mistake |
| 09:07.36 | Diablo-D3 | The south screwed themselves there |
| 09:07.36 | lurgyman | oh? |
| 09:07.50 | lurgyman | unlike Reagan, who was a complete success? |
| 09:08.12 | Diablo-D3 | Reagan was a success? how so? |
| 09:08.25 | gonkulator | when did this turn into #politics |
| 09:08.29 | gonkulator | and #history |
| 09:08.33 | Diablo-D3 | gonkulator: no, #politics.us |
| 09:08.46 | Diablo-D3 | yes, thats a real channel, lilo announced it this morning |
| 09:08.51 | gonkulator | I know |
| 09:08.56 | gonkulator | I saw |
| 09:09.08 | gonkulator | mostly, I was going for the idea |
| 09:09.20 | Diablo-D3 | ahh heh |
| 09:09.25 | gonkulator | and why do I feel like insulting you? |
| 09:09.41 | lurgyman | Diablo-D3: i was being sarcastic |
| 09:09.44 | Diablo-D3 | because you cant help it that you have a mental disorder? |
| 09:10.18 | Diablo-D3 | lurgyman: er, nm, misread what you wrote |
| 09:10.30 | lurgyman | ok |
| 09:10.33 | lurgyman | well... |
| 09:10.39 | lurgyman | bedtime |
| 09:10.46 | gonkulator | lurgyman: Hey Dan! |
| 09:10.47 | gonkulator | wait |
| 09:10.50 | gonkulator | that went in the wrong order |
| 09:10.52 | lurgyman | bedtime |
| 09:10.54 | Diablo-D3 | night lurgyman |
| 09:10.55 | gonkulator | hehehe :) |
| 09:10.58 | gonkulator | later lurgyman |
| 09:11.04 | lurgyman | :) |
| 09:11.12 | lurgyman | g'night all |
| 09:12.24 | Diablo-D3 | forget something? |
| 09:12.29 | lurgyman | hmm |
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| 09:25.44 | ChipX86|Gone | g'night everyone |
| 09:27.07 | Diablo-D3 | night |
| 09:44.33 | pagefault | well |
| 09:44.34 | pagefault | that was fun |
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| 09:57.23 | pagefault | boo at telco |
| 10:13.49 | gonkulator | there |
| 10:14.01 | gonkulator | now its working on a huge ass emerge (like 150 packages) |
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| 10:54.08 | pagefault | anyone awake? |
| 10:54.22 | pagefault | guess not |
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