| 00:46.41 | gonkulator | yay for apple, even though their hardware breaks, they do replace it with new stuff |
| 00:49.54 | file | how is it performing? |
| 00:50.00 | gonkulator | file: its fast :) |
| 00:50.09 | file | hehe |
| 00:50.20 | file | so how long is your repair list now? |
| 00:50.36 | gonkulator | well, plasma went in six times |
| 00:50.50 | gonkulator | the first time was for a dead hard drive |
| 00:50.57 | gonkulator | the second and third were dead video cards |
| 00:51.05 | gonkulator | the fourt time was a dead hard drive |
| 00:51.08 | gonkulator | fourth even |
| 00:51.18 | gonkulator | five and six were video card deaths |
| 00:51.26 | gonkulator | and seven was a dead logic board |
| 00:51.36 | file | but you said it went in six times |
| 00:51.39 | gonkulator | right |
| 00:51.40 | file | seven != six |
| 00:51.47 | gonkulator | seven -> replacement |
| 00:51.51 | file | ahhh |
| 00:52.23 | file | booya! |
| 00:53.00 | gonkulator | yep |
| 00:53.21 | gonkulator | so this G4 doesn't have a whole lot of L2 cache |
| 00:53.29 | gonkulator | but it does have an AltiVec :) |
| 00:53.46 | file | hehe |
| 00:58.06 | gonkulator | Radeon 9200 |
| 00:58.15 | gonkulator | yay for mom being home |
| 00:59.10 | file | 'tis pretty empty in here. |
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| 01:08.12 | pagefault | yo |
| 01:08.16 | gonkulator | hey pagefault |
| 01:08.21 | gonkulator | pagefault: did you hear I got a new laptop? |
| 01:09.09 | pagefault | oh nice |
| 01:09.10 | pagefault | which one? |
| 01:09.51 | pagefault | nice |
| 01:09.52 | gonkulator | for free |
| 01:10.06 | pagefault | won it? |
| 01:10.13 | gonkulator | in a manner of speaking |
| 01:10.17 | gonkulator | my other one kept dying |
| 01:10.33 | gonkulator | the seventh time of me taking it in, Apple said screw fixing it and gave me a new one :) |
| 01:10.49 | pagefault | haw |
| 01:10.50 | pagefault | nice |
| 01:11.04 | gonkulator | yep |
| 01:11.40 | gonkulator | anyway |
| 01:11.59 | file | ice cream... mmm perhaps... |
| 01:12.05 | gonkulator | later file |
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| 01:12.16 | pagefault | what kept going wrong with it? |
| 01:12.21 | *** join/#tacobeam purple_cow (~jupiter@navi.cs.colorado.edu) |
| 01:12.41 | gonkulator | pagefault: hard disk issues and the video memory kept frying |
| 01:12.56 | gonkulator | hi purple_cow |
| 01:14.39 | pagefault | I got mine back |
| 01:14.50 | gonkulator | good deal |
| 01:14.55 | pagefault | yeah only took 3 days |
| 01:15.00 | pagefault | for me shipping it |
| 01:15.02 | pagefault | them fixing it |
| 01:15.04 | pagefault | and me getting it back |
| 01:15.41 | pagefault | I need them to mail me some stickers now though |
| 01:15.50 | pagefault | they forgot to put on the intel centrino sticker and stuff on it |
| 01:15.55 | pagefault | so I have this blank spot on my laptop |
| 01:16.51 | purple_cow | i think we can call this a successful afternoon of surgery |
| 01:17.40 | purple_cow | have to wait 163m to see if it syncs correctly, but I'm optimistic |
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| 01:22.03 | gonkulator | captain_proton: congradulations on a surgery well done |
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| 01:38.55 | gonkulator | hey scanline |
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| 01:44.34 | scanline | arr, it just beeped again |
| 01:45.13 | captain_proton | we -did- have those sticky parts of the sync before |
| 01:45.19 | captain_proton | hopefully the panic was a fluke |
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| 02:00.32 | purple_cow | gablargh |
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| 02:32.08 | Cae | navi.. |
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| 02:32.34 | Cae | :) |
| 02:32.42 | Cae | navi-navi :) |
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| 02:38.49 | pagefault | anyone with freebsd here? |
| 02:38.57 | gonkulator | and this is kinda strange |
| 02:39.05 | gonkulator | does OS X count? |
| 02:39.12 | pagefault | dunno |
| 02:39.17 | pagefault | I forget the command to install packages from the server |
| 02:39.23 | Cae | no, but will be soon. |
| 02:39.29 | Cae | infinity's going to turn freebsd |
| 02:39.52 | pagefault | manw |
| 02:39.53 | pagefault | -w |
| 02:39.56 | pagefault | what is the comamnd |
| 02:39.58 | file | pkg_install? |
| 02:39.58 | pagefault | command |
| 02:40.02 | file | pkg? |
| 02:40.07 | pagefault | it's like |
| 02:40.10 | pagefault | installpkg |
| 02:40.14 | pagefault | or configurein |
| 02:40.16 | pagefault | or something like that |
| 02:40.22 | file | pkg_install ? |
| 02:40.26 | pagefault | nah thats not it |
| 02:40.26 | pagefault | tried it |
| 02:40.36 | pagefault | google time I guess |
| 02:40.41 | MysticOne | pkg_add |
| 02:40.41 | file | I didn't know FreeBSD had packages |
| 02:40.50 | pagefault | yeah |
| 02:40.55 | pagefault | it has a whole thing to download off servers |
| 02:40.56 | gonkulator | file: nope, FreeBSD is all one big file people run |
| 02:40.57 | pagefault | it's very easy to use/update |
| 02:41.05 | file | I always use sysinstall to install packages |
| 02:41.10 | file | well |
| 02:41.12 | pagefault | yes |
| 02:41.13 | pagefault | thats it |
| 02:41.13 | pagefault | thank you |
| 02:41.14 | file | to download ports/install them |
| 02:41.14 | pagefault | sysinstall |
| 02:41.34 | MysticOne | I always used ports :) |
| 02:42.33 | Cae | question...gentoo and such have system stats under /proc (like cpuinfo) where's that info for *bsd? |
| 02:43.33 | file | Cae: I have never found out |
| 02:43.48 | Cae | I know it's *somewhere* |
| 02:45.31 | file | here's a quick way to get a /proc ;) |
| 02:45.36 | file | kldload linprocfs |
| 02:45.40 | file | mount -t linprocfs linprocfs /proc |
| 02:45.46 | file | :) |
| 02:46.56 | Cae | heh |
| 02:47.12 | file | gotta love linux emulation |
| 02:48.29 | MysticOne | CaeCae! |
| 02:50.03 | Cae | MysticOne :) |
| 02:50.57 | MysticOne | Cae: have good holidays? |
| 02:51.00 | Cae | yes |
| 02:51.06 | Cae | you? |
| 02:54.24 | Cae | naaaaviiii :( |
| 03:03.15 | MysticOne | yeah, good holidays ... |
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| 03:04.36 | Cae | navi! |
| 03:04.48 | gonkulator | MysticOne: didn't you come here to beg for a navi login? |
| 03:05.13 | MysticOne | umm... |
| 03:05.14 | MysticOne | no? |
| 03:05.17 | MysticOne | I came here to talk! |
| 03:05.20 | MysticOne | to bask in the taco beam! |
| 03:05.50 | gonkulator | oh, ok |
| 03:05.59 | Cae | bad gonkulator |
| 03:06.06 | Cae | you're trying to give me bad habits |
| 03:06.17 | Cae | damned right it would be more than two |
| 03:06.22 | Cae | they do not |
| 03:06.26 | MysticOne | but you know, a navi login would be nice ... |
| 03:06.30 | Cae | *grin* can't resist talking elsewhere |
| 03:07.15 | Cae | yes, I know |
| 03:07.18 | Cae | no, I should not |
| 03:08.09 | gonkulator | Cae: nike commercial quote "Just Do It" |
| 03:08.20 | Cae | so.. |
| 03:08.46 | Cae | I don't think that included illegally accessing a local unencrypted wireless network and scanning campus servers with it |
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| 03:09.05 | Cae | just a guess there |
| 03:09.10 | gonkulator | it could |
| 03:09.15 | purple_cow | BLAH |
| 03:09.25 | Cae | navi :( |
| 03:09.42 | *** join/#tacobeam captain_pistachi (~blardebla@navi.cs.colorado.edu) |
| 03:09.44 | gonkulator | sorry file |
| 03:10.17 | purple_cow | now we're getting kernel panics during the sync |
| 03:10.45 | file | purple_cow: ugh |
| 03:11.38 | gonkulator | well, the touchpad on my new iBook is starting to have issues |
| 03:11.42 | gonkulator | it isn't staying down |
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| 03:12.10 | gonkulator | thats a lot of ____ after CIA-2____ |
| 03:15.41 | scanline | patches welcome |
| 03:15.52 | scanline | I was planning on fixing that bug this morning, but poof goes navi still |
| 03:16.04 | MysticOne | eep op ork ah ha! |
| 03:16.24 | scanline | heh? |
| 03:16.25 | file | gonkulator: if you go back again this soon they'll declare you cursed! |
| 03:17.16 | gonkulator | file: I can push it down and it stays for the most part |
| 03:17.21 | gonkulator | when it stops working, I'll take it in |
| 03:20.12 | scanline | root@yoshi micah # badblocks -b 4096 -c 2048 -n -v /dev/hdc -s |
| 03:20.12 | scanline | C |
| 03:20.51 | Cae | hm. what commands would be helpful in showing system info..like..OS.. |
| 03:24.20 | Cae | uname |
| 03:26.41 | Cae | hm. sunos. |
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| 03:27.23 | MysticOne | man, I love the digiorno commercial with the man dressed up as a woman |
| 03:27.25 | MysticOne | it's so funny :) |
| 03:27.37 | Cae | you're watching stargate |
| 03:27.42 | kergoth | re |
| 03:27.56 | Cae | hey kergoth |
| 03:28.21 | kergoth | hey Cae. how goes? |
| 03:28.31 | Cae | well enough. you? |
| 03:28.33 | kergoth | gonkulator: bleh, i like that show. rerun though. |
| 03:28.41 | kergoth | recovered from the flu recently, but otherwise pretty good |
| 03:29.43 | Cae | nod |
| 03:30.47 | kergoth | and thankfully, finally have directv and internet back at my house |
| 03:30.58 | kergoth | going weeks without both was traumatic |
| 03:33.31 | Cae | no doubt |
| 03:34.06 | CIA-4 | 03micah r1486 trunk/cia/LibCIA/Rack.py: Add some consistency checking to Rack.__iter__ so if a rack's key list gets out of sync with the database's actual contents, invalid keys won't be returned |
| 03:46.21 | gonkulator | hey ChipX86 |
| 03:46.25 | gonkulator | ChipX86: I got a new iBook today |
| 03:47.03 | CIA-4 | 03micah r1487 trunk/cia/BUGS: Clean up the BUGS file |
| 03:47.17 | Cae | hey ChipX86 |
| 03:47.19 | ChipX86 | hey |
| 03:47.32 | gonkulator | oh sure... ChipX86 responds to Cae but not me |
| 03:47.40 | ChipX86 | gonkulator: very cool |
| 03:47.45 | ChipX86 | sorry, reading e-mails.. |
| 03:47.48 | gonkulator | hehehe |
| 03:47.53 | ChipX86 | Paco-Paco was being a complete asshole to TD |
| 03:47.54 | MysticOne | ChipChipRevolution! |
| 03:47.59 | ChipX86 | not surprised, but I'm pissed |
| 03:48.11 | MysticOne | grrrrr |
| 03:48.23 | Cae | I like TD |
| 03:48.26 | ChipX86 | I do too |
| 03:48.34 | MysticOne | i wish SeanEgan and Paco-Paco would just get married and leave everyone else alone |
| 03:48.38 | MysticOne | yeah, TD is a nice guy |
| 03:48.40 | ChipX86 | he got yelled at because he wrote a patch for gaim that solved a problem |
| 03:48.44 | ChipX86 | and Paco-Paco didn't like how it was written |
| 03:48.47 | Cae | that's be an interesting wedding |
| 03:49.21 | ChipX86 | indeed |
| 03:49.23 | MysticOne | Cae: it may not work too good ... they've both got zero dick, but lots of asshole ... but, somehow I think they'd get alone nicely and hopefully they'd leave the rest of the world alone |
| 03:49.38 | Cae | strap-ons |
| 03:49.39 | MysticOne | gonkulator: I don't know that I've enjoyed him... |
| 03:49.42 | MysticOne | Cae: true |
| 03:49.55 | gonkulator | MysticOne: it seemed the best way to say that, might have been wrong |
| 03:50.01 | MysticOne | gonkulator: hehehehe |
| 03:50.24 | scanline | doodlydoo.. this badblocks is going to take a while |
| 03:50.25 | gonkulator | MysticOne: and *you're* the one commenting on SeanEgan and Paco-Paco's anatomy |
| 03:50.27 | ChipX86 | man, interesting night. |
| 03:51.12 | ChipX86 | Rachael and I were eating dinner and suddenly, lightning. No thunder, no rain. We start heading out, and BLAMO! Hail! Within a couple minutes, the entire ground and everything else is completely white |
| 03:51.24 | MysticOne | tornado! |
| 03:51.28 | ChipX86 | OH NO |
| 03:51.37 | Cae | heh |
| 03:51.39 | MysticOne | hahaha |
| 03:51.54 | ChipX86 | also, remember that idiot at the movie theater that tried hitting on Rachael? |
| 03:52.00 | gonkulator | ChipX86: you're not in Kansas anymore |
| 03:52.00 | MysticOne | NEW STARGATE NEXT FRIDAY! |
| 03:52.01 | ChipX86 | and how nicely Rachael blew him off? |
| 03:52.02 | scanline | MysticOne: thanks |
| 03:52.04 | MysticOne | ChipX86: wwha? |
| 03:52.09 | MysticOne | oh yeah |
| 03:52.12 | MysticOne | I remember |
| 03:52.16 | ChipX86 | the "Because he's the geek and I'm the nerd!" one |
| 03:52.31 | ChipX86 | well, she went with her sister to see a movie yesterday, and the guy was there again |
| 03:52.37 | ChipX86 | tried hitting on her again |
| 03:52.39 | ChipX86 | (the bastard) |
| 03:53.29 | MysticOne | makes me think about this guy that hit on melinda when she was working at winn-dixie |
| 03:53.39 | scanline | hmm, my audio is a tiny bit glitchy from all this PCI activity :-/ |
| 03:53.50 | ChipX86 | and said something like, "Why isn't your boyfriend around? ... I'd always be by your side. I'd never leave you alone" |
| 03:53.52 | gonkulator | scanline: welcome to my world :) |
| 03:54.01 | ChipX86 | she said, "And that's why I'm not dating you." and walked in |
| 03:54.05 | kergoth | ChipX86: *cough*codependent*cough* |
| 03:54.10 | MysticOne | ChipX86: hahahaha! |
| 03:54.17 | MysticOne | ChipX86: Rachael 2, dumbass 0! |
| 03:54.19 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 03:54.37 | ChipX86 | she told me tonight: "Some people are... what's the word... idiots." |
| 03:54.44 | MysticOne | hehehe |
| 03:54.53 | ChipX86 | kergoth: ? |
| 03:54.53 | MysticOne | this guy came up to melinda when she worked in Winn-Dixie, and she was behind the counter |
| 03:55.00 | MysticOne | (she worked at the sandwich making place thing) |
| 03:55.00 | kergoth | ChipX86: referring to the idiot |
| 03:55.01 | kergoth | heh |
| 03:55.02 | ChipX86 | ah |
| 03:55.04 | MysticOne | and she said "What would you like?" |
| 03:55.23 | MysticOne | and he said something like "For you to get on this counter, spread them, and let me have my way with you" |
| 03:55.35 | scanline | geez |
| 03:55.42 | ChipX86 | *sigh* |
| 03:55.44 | ChipX86 | did he think that would work? |
| 03:55.45 | MysticOne | man ... if I had been there, I would've beaten the fuck out of him |
| 03:55.45 | kergoth | eh |
| 03:55.46 | Cae | ugh |
| 03:55.49 | MysticOne | I have no idea |
| 03:55.57 | MysticOne | obviously he was an idiot |
| 03:56.01 | MysticOne | but man ... |
| 03:56.07 | MysticOne | she just called her manager and the guy ran off |
| 03:56.11 | scanline | I didn't think anyone could be -that- dumb |
| 03:56.16 | MysticOne | yeah |
| 03:56.21 | MysticOne | I dunno if he got in trouble or anything |
| 03:58.46 | ChipX86 | just sent a message to Paco-Paco, who is idle.. I'm sure he'll be pissed and tell on me for it |
| 03:58.58 | MysticOne | what'd you say? |
| 03:59.13 | ChipX86 | "Please be kinder to TD in the future. He's a very intelligent guy, is working hard, and I'd hate to see another possible contributor scared off because of attitude problems on the side of Gaim developers." |
| 04:00.02 | merlin262 | *Sighs* |
| 04:00.14 | Cae | hey merlin |
| 04:00.23 | merlin262 | hello Cae |
| 04:00.37 | Cae | how's life? |
| 04:00.58 | merlin262 | getting ready for school. |
| 04:02.13 | Cae | school. ick. |
| 04:02.47 | gonkulator | yes |
| 04:04.50 | ChipX86 | scanline: if you'll make a list of what Dream Theater is corrupt, I'll upload new ones |
| 04:04.56 | ChipX86 | (whenever it's convenient) |
| 04:05.01 | scanline | nah, I had backups of them on my laptop |
| 04:05.05 | ChipX86 | ah ok |
| 04:05.07 | scanline | so they're all fine |
| 04:05.10 | scanline | just not on navi |
| 04:05.23 | ChipX86 | I hate to see this happen again :/ |
| 04:05.27 | ChipX86 | poor navi |
| 04:05.37 | merlin262 | did navi die again? |
| 04:05.40 | scanline | well, even if navi exploded right now it wouldn't be as bad as before, since we made backups |
| 04:05.41 | kergoth | what happened? |
| 04:05.46 | scanline | merlin262: not really |
| 04:05.55 | scanline | kergoth: disk failure in our RAID-5 |
| 04:06.02 | kergoth | ah |
| 04:06.05 | scanline | but now it's looking like either two disks went bad or our controller is flaking out |
| 04:06.05 | ChipX86 | out of curiousity, what did you backup to? |
| 04:06.13 | scanline | ChipX86: all our desktop computers |
| 04:06.17 | ChipX86 | ah, ok |
| 04:06.25 | ChipX86 | I need a backup solution here. That wouldn't work too well ;) |
| 04:06.25 | scanline | we couldn't back up everything by any means, but we got the stuff we care the most about |
| 04:06.30 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 04:10.24 | CIA-4 | 03micah r1488 trunk/cia/ (27 files): Happy New Year! |
| 04:10.25 | CIA-4 | (get well soon, navi) |
| 04:11.05 | purple_cow | scanline: you got a bunch of I/O errors, but it all looks filesystem level |
| 04:11.15 | scanline | oh |
| 04:11.23 | scanline | that'd be nice I guess, though not much less confusing |
| 04:11.50 | scanline | lvm(58,0):vs-13070: reiserfs_read_inode2: i/o failure occurred trying to find stat data of [5433 5438 0x0 SD] |
| 04:11.50 | scanline | I guess you mean those:? |
| 04:11.58 | purple_cow | well...no |
| 04:12.21 | scanline | at least the hpt card hasn't been beeping since we replaced the disk :) |
| 04:12.32 | scanline | it just silently kerplodes with a kernel panic |
| 04:12.42 | purple_cow | look in the last-most-recent kernel log (not current) |
| 04:12.50 | scanline | Checking for bad blocks (non-destructive read-write test) |
| 04:12.50 | scanline | Testing with random pattern: 8650752/ 29305206 |
| 04:13.26 | kergoth | oh, raid card beeping.. god i hate that |
| 04:13.41 | kergoth | had a flaky drive that liked to wake me up at 4am |
| 04:14.38 | scanline | purple_cow: I just see a bunch of the same, and the usual navi init stuff |
| 04:17.55 | MysticOne | unfyunfy |
| 04:18.37 | pagefault | nothing beats a freshly cleaned keyboard |
| 04:19.05 | gonkulator | well... I'll have an awful sci-fi movie to upload as soon as navi is healthy again |
| 04:20.52 | MysticOne | gonkulator: what movie? |
| 04:21.01 | gonkulator | MysticOne: Maximum Velocity |
| 04:21.10 | MysticOne | I don't think I saw that |
| 04:21.55 | gonkulator | its pretty funny |
| 04:22.30 | scanline | ick |
| 04:22.39 | scanline | yoshi's still on linux 2.4.20 |
| 04:22.45 | MysticOne | oldness |
| 04:23.01 | scanline | I should upgrade to 2.6, but I'd need to port the mi6k module then :) |
| 04:23.52 | MysticOne | I have 2.6.0 on my box at work now |
| 04:23.52 | ChipX86 | I should upgrade too, but I'm worried about problems |
| 04:24.02 | gonkulator | nova is on 2.6 |
| 04:24.32 | scanline | oh no! gonkulator can't use the mi6k on nova yet! |
| 04:24.39 | MysticOne | anyone ever notice how no matter where SG-1 goes, they speak english? |
| 04:24.41 | MysticOne | :) |
| 04:24.42 | scanline | TRAGEDY! |
| 04:24.52 | scanline | MysticOne: it's the babelfish |
| 04:25.04 | scanline | MysticOne: the TV camera has one too |
| 04:25.18 | file | they have universal translators that they don't know they have |
| 04:25.18 | MysticOne | hehehehe |
| 04:25.27 | MysticOne | file: the Asgard implanted them all with them |
| 04:25.33 | file | MysticOne: well of course! |
| 04:25.37 | MysticOne | :) |
| 04:25.41 | file | the Asgard do many things |
| 04:25.45 | MysticOne | I can't wait until Friday ... |
| 04:25.59 | scanline | then there was that episode where O'Neill learns that alien language... |
| 04:26.04 | scanline | see, he didn't actually learn it |
| 04:26.11 | scanline | the asgard just made everyone else forget it |
| 04:26.23 | scanline | movie physics at work! |
| 04:26.38 | file | I liked that episode where the same hours kept repeating themselves |
| 04:26.41 | file | I found it most amusing |
| 04:26.46 | scanline | window of opportunity? |
| 04:26.48 | gonkulator | scanline: wait till you see the movie physics in this movie |
| 04:26.51 | scanline | with the fruit loops and the golf? |
| 04:26.55 | file | yes |
| 04:26.57 | scanline | that's my favorite episode |
| 04:27.03 | MysticOne | file: that was a great one :) |
| 04:27.11 | MysticOne | I like where he turned in his resignation and then kissed carter |
| 04:27.15 | scanline | hehe |
| 04:27.21 | file | MysticOne: yeah and then the look he had at the breakfast table afterwards |
| 04:27.30 | MysticOne | yeah :) |
| 04:27.31 | file | classic. |
| 04:27.31 | MysticOne | hehehehehe |
| 04:27.38 | file | gonkulator: yes you do |
| 04:27.39 | MysticOne | it's such a good series |
| 04:27.41 | *** join/#tacobeam KeyserSoze (~Keyser@64.235.142.48) |
| 04:27.42 | MysticOne | I'll cry if they ever cancel it |
| 04:27.44 | scanline | yikes |
| 04:27.52 | gonkulator | KeyserSoze: howdy |
| 04:27.53 | scanline | googlebot just took another whack at navi this morning |
| 04:27.56 | gonkulator | KeyserSoze: I got a new iBook |
| 04:27.56 | scanline | a really big whack |
| 04:27.57 | MysticOne | the one on right now was the last one of this past season |
| 04:28.00 | KeyserSoze | hi gonkulator |
| 04:28.04 | KeyserSoze | really? |
| 04:28.10 | KeyserSoze | what're the specs? |
| 04:28.18 | gonkulator | KeyserSoze: yep, its the latest 12" iBook |
| 04:28.34 | KeyserSoze | radeon 9200 64mb? |
| 04:28.54 | gonkulator | 32mb, but yes |
| 04:28.56 | KeyserSoze | what speed G4? |
| 04:29.01 | gonkulator | 800 mHz |
| 04:29.10 | gonkulator | and everything is 266 DDR |
| 04:29.16 | KeyserSoze | does it have a 128mb dimm soldered on? |
| 04:29.25 | MysticOne | I need to max out the RAM in my G5 |
| 04:29.38 | KeyserSoze | ddr and the faster front side bus are nice. |
| 04:29.45 | gonkulator | KeyserSoze: yeah, and it came with a 128 meg stick in the expansion slot |
| 04:29.56 | KeyserSoze | i hate when they do that. |
| 04:30.10 | KeyserSoze | how much ram do you have in it now? |
| 04:30.17 | gonkulator | 256... |
| 04:30.21 | gonkulator | I just got it this morning |
| 04:30.32 | KeyserSoze | oh. haven't upgraded yet? :D |
| 04:30.35 | *** join/#tacobeam Cae (~cae@user-0ceicer.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 04:30.37 | KeyserSoze | does it have 802.11g? |
| 04:30.40 | gonkulator | KeyserSoze: yep |
| 04:31.12 | gonkulator | merlin262: break your iBook seven times and get your own |
| 04:31.17 | KeyserSoze | do you know how the battery life compares to your old one with the ppc 750fx, and radeon 7200? |
| 04:31.29 | gonkulator | I think its less... |
| 04:31.30 | MysticOne | I'm sitting in the living room using my wife's powerbook right now |
| 04:31.41 | MysticOne | and it's hot on my legs and special parts |
| 04:31.42 | gonkulator | but I haven't put a single cycle on the battery yet |
| 04:31.43 | scanline | bitterness! |
| 04:32.06 | captain_pistachi | yay for random musical numbers! |
| 04:32.25 | MysticOne | this 1GHz G4 Powerbook (with Radeon 9200 and 15.2" LCD) gets about 3 hours |
| 04:32.44 | KeyserSoze | mine has a radeon 9200, too. |
| 04:33.12 | gonkulator | well, for the price, I'm not gonna complain yet |
| 04:33.17 | gonkulator | wb Cae |
| 04:33.18 | MysticOne | hehehe |
| 04:33.23 | scanline | it's rather cool how new search results appear almost instantly after a googlebot run though |
| 04:33.27 | gonkulator | ok |
| 04:33.31 | KeyserSoze | i shouldn't have gotten the stupid intel wireless, though. should have left the slot empty when i got it from compaq, and added one with better linux support |
| 04:33.32 | gonkulator | it reports six hours of life left |
| 04:33.49 | KeyserSoze | wow. that'd be nice, if it's accurate |
| 04:33.54 | gonkulator | yeah |
| 04:33.54 | KeyserSoze | what'd it cost? |
| 04:34.02 | gonkulator | well... |
| 04:34.04 | MysticOne | I hate how Intel has their stupid Centrino commercials that make it look like wireless Inet is everywhere |
| 04:34.04 | gonkulator | see... |
| 04:34.17 | gonkulator | my iBook decided that it was going to dead itself on New Year's Eve |
| 04:34.22 | gonkulator | so I took it to the apple store today |
| 04:34.36 | gonkulator | and the guy looked at it's repair history and shat himself a couple times |
| 04:34.44 | gonkulator | so they replaced it with a new one |
| 04:34.53 | KeyserSoze | cool! |
| 04:34.57 | KeyserSoze | for free? |
| 04:35.01 | gonkulator | for free |
| 04:35.09 | KeyserSoze | very nice. |
| 04:35.19 | KeyserSoze | of course, it sucks that the old one broke. |
| 04:35.22 | gonkulator | yeah |
| 04:35.24 | file | KeyserSoze: ndiswrapper :) |
| 04:35.27 | KeyserSoze | was it the same issue all the time? |
| 04:35.37 | gonkulator | well... |
| 04:35.44 | gonkulator | it went in six times prior to today |
| 04:35.51 | gonkulator | four were for dead video memory |
| 04:35.54 | KeyserSoze | file, I know, i need to install that. i had the proprietary one, and the expiration time was reached. |
| 04:35.56 | gonkulator | one was for a dead disk |
| 04:36.01 | gonkulator | and one was for a dead sleep LED |
| 04:36.11 | file | gonkulator: two for dead disk you told me before |
| 04:36.15 | KeyserSoze | do you shower with it or anything? |
| 04:36.20 | captain_pistachi | hrm |
| 04:36.24 | gonkulator | file: they replaced the disk once when the video memory fried |
| 04:36.27 | captain_pistachi | /navi/media/video has gone wonky |
| 04:36.30 | file | gonkulator: eh true |
| 04:36.40 | gonkulator | KeyserSoze: no, I didn't shower with it |
| 04:36.53 | file | gonkulator merely used the iBook like he would any other laptop! |
| 04:37.11 | KeyserSoze | didja use it to squash those giant south american beetles? |
| 04:37.20 | gonkulator | KeyserSoze: and today, the it was a logic board failure that caused kernel panics on boot |
| 04:37.24 | scanline | captain_pistachi: ick, it would definitely be fsck time if we weren't mounted ro |
| 04:37.27 | gonkulator | detected by apple hardware test |
| 04:38.14 | KeyserSoze | sophie thinks i am crazy for wanting kitchen counters higher than 36" |
| 04:38.26 | gonkulator | hehehe |
| 04:38.32 | gonkulator | how is Gina anyway? |
| 04:38.41 | KeyserSoze | pretty good. |
| 04:38.51 | KeyserSoze | got good grades last semester. |
| 04:39.03 | KeyserSoze | she's only got one more semester for her associates degree |
| 04:39.07 | gonkulator | nice |
| 04:39.16 | gonkulator | feels good |
| 04:39.31 | *** join/#tacobeam darth_iBook (~evan@navi.cs.colorado.edu) |
| 04:39.35 | KeyserSoze | she keeps trying to prevent me from ripping out things from our house, though. |
| 04:39.35 | gonkulator | hey darth_iBook |
| 04:39.40 | scanline | Checking for bad blocks (non-destructive read-write test) |
| 04:39.40 | scanline | Testing with random pattern: 13209600/ 29305206 |
| 04:39.43 | scanline | hi darth_iBook |
| 04:39.51 | merlin262 | hey darth_mall! |
| 04:39.53 | darth_mall | scanline: how's navi doin? |
| 04:40.02 | scanline | darth_mall: still in one piece, but not healthy yet |
| 04:40.12 | scanline | darth_mall: no more raid card beeping, but we get kernel panics when resync'ing the raid |
| 04:40.15 | gonkulator | darth_mall: have you heard my story yet? |
| 04:40.42 | darth_mall | gonkulator: about getting a new iBook? |
| 04:40.54 | darth_mall | scanline: so... it wasn't the disk? |
| 04:41.12 | darth_mall | heh... '...part of an entire day of bug movies' |
| 04:41.15 | darth_mall | go sci fi |
| 04:41.16 | scanline | darth_mall: well, I'm running badblocks on the old disk to see whether it was in fact bad, but it's a pretty sure bet that it was |
| 04:41.21 | scanline | darth_mall: that just wasn't the only problem |
| 04:41.36 | darth_mall | scanline: I see |
| 04:42.10 | *** join/#tacobeam Cae_ (~Caelum@user-0ceicer.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 04:42.27 | Cae | hello me |
| 04:42.42 | darth_mall | has anyone else ever noticed that in at least half the commercials on TV that have married couples it's usually a tubby guy married to a girl with a really nice body |
| 04:42.59 | ChipX86 | they're trying to give us hope |
| 04:43.03 | gonkulator | darth_mall: yeah, I have, but haven't paid much attention |
| 04:43.19 | KeyserSoze | hmm. found a website that says the kitchen counter should be 3"-6" below your elbow. our 36" counter is 12" below my elbow, corroborating my theory that it should be raised 6" |
| 04:43.20 | *** join/#tacobeam Cae (~cae@user-0ceicer.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 04:43.34 | darth_mall | KeyserSoze: lol |
| 04:43.56 | MysticOne | sleepy |
| 04:43.59 | MysticOne | but I dun wanna go to bed yet |
| 04:44.14 | Cae | I love irssi so much more than irssix |
| 04:44.23 | MysticOne | irssix? |
| 04:44.29 | gonkulator | OS X version of irssi |
| 04:44.32 | file | boing! |
| 04:44.34 | MysticOne | oh |
| 04:44.46 | MysticOne | I like X-Chat Aqua though |
| 04:44.50 | gonkulator | yeah, thats what I do |
| 04:44.56 | MysticOne | but it's not practical for me :( |
| 04:45.04 | gonkulator | me neither :) |
| 04:45.16 | MysticOne | I move around too much |
| 04:45.17 | gonkulator | screen+irssi+ssh makes for a happy me :) |
| 04:45.44 | scanline | bah, dircproxy + whatever |
| 04:45.59 | scanline | xchat when I'm on a real computer, ssh+irssi elsewhere |
| 04:46.11 | scanline | telnet if I'm really in a bind :) |
| 04:46.14 | darth_mall | lol |
| 04:46.20 | MysticOne | they need a screen for IRC |
| 04:46.25 | KeyserSoze | how hard is it to run screen and another x window manager (on two x servers) at the same time? |
| 04:46.40 | scanline | KeyserSoze: screen has nothing to do with X |
| 04:47.20 | KeyserSoze | i thought screen was a x window manager that acted like extra virtual consoles? |
| 04:47.29 | scanline | eegh |
| 04:47.32 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 04:47.35 | scanline | why do I have 16 copies of the linux source on yoshi? |
| 04:47.48 | captain_pistachi | hehe |
| 04:47.50 | file | scanline: to... avoid... downloading them? |
| 04:47.51 | darth_mall | KeyserSoze: afaik, screen has nothing to do with X |
| 04:47.57 | ChipX86 | I have a couple GB of the gaim source |
| 04:48.19 | scanline | file: but they're all old |
| 04:48.32 | merlin262 | rm -rf! |
| 04:48.47 | scanline | darth_mall: it's just a vt102 emulator and a vt102 client both stuck onto a set of virtual screens |
| 04:48.52 | file | merlin262: darn right |
| 04:48.57 | MysticOne | ChipX86: so what was it you told Paco-Paco? that he was an asshat? |
| 04:49.00 | KeyserSoze | that's funny. the homepage says "screen is a full-screen window manager", and when I read that, i always assumed "window manager" == "X windows window manager" |
| 04:49.04 | ChipX86 | MysticOne: I pasted it above |
| 04:49.10 | MysticOne | I didn't see |
| 04:49.16 | ChipX86 | scroll up :) I don't have it anymore |
| 04:49.20 | KeyserSoze | can you run screen in an xterm? |
| 04:49.38 | ChipX86 | he defend himself, I said nothing further but that I hope his fever gets better.. didn't point a finger once, but I think it got him thinking |
| 04:49.46 | darth_mall | KeyserSoze: yeah |
| 04:50.08 | MysticOne | ChipX86: I'm not so sure it'll help at all :( |
| 04:50.11 | MysticOne | oh well |
| 04:50.13 | KeyserSoze | cool, i'm gonna have to give that a try. |
| 04:50.23 | ChipX86 | MysticOne: nod |
| 04:50.26 | MysticOne | I luff screen :) |
| 04:50.34 | MysticOne | I dunno how I ever actually used terminals without it |
| 04:50.38 | KeyserSoze | i wonder if it'll run on QNX |
| 04:50.49 | *** join/#tacobeam Cae (~Caelum@user-0ceicer.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 04:51.08 | ChipX86 | this IQ test is fun |
| 04:51.12 | darth_mall | Cae's back again! |
| 04:51.21 | ChipX86 | rather easy though for the most part |
| 04:51.23 | Cae | argh |
| 04:51.50 | file | ChipX86: URL? |
| 04:51.54 | ChipX86 | http://web.tickle.com/tests/uiq/ |
| 04:51.56 | ChipX86 | I think that's it |
| 04:51.58 | KeyserSoze | when i started, we didn't have any unix machines. now we have a imac for our cvs server for all our source, and we are doing development on a QNX system. |
| 04:52.08 | Cae | heh |
| 04:52.12 | gonkulator | hehehe |
| 04:52.19 | gonkulator | I have an iMac that serves as my svn server at work |
| 04:52.52 | KeyserSoze | i still can't believe our resident mac head chose winXP embedded for one of our embedded systems projects... |
| 04:53.01 | scanline | wtf? |
| 04:53.06 | scanline | my machine just froze for a few seconds |
| 04:53.20 | scanline | and badblocks seems stalled |
| 04:53.30 | scanline | I guess this disk is indeed somewhat bad... |
| 04:53.48 | darth_mall | =( |
| 04:53.57 | scanline | darth_mall: that's alright, we were expecting it to be bad |
| 04:54.13 | scanline | this means that we did indeed fix one of the problems with navi, there's just another |
| 04:54.32 | scanline | yeah, badblocks is going nowhere |
| 04:55.10 | darth_mall | 'if his brainwaves are compatible with the device, we should be able to see whatever he's thinking holographically' |
| 04:56.06 | scanline | gah, just froze up again |
| 04:57.35 | ChipX86 | I take back the easy part |
| 04:57.47 | kergoth | re |
| 04:58.34 | scanline | damn this disk is craaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanknfds |
| 04:58.38 | scanline | sdfsd |
| 04:58.42 | scanline | cnky1 |
| 04:58.44 | Cae | .. |
| 04:58.53 | scanline | this disk that was in navi is freezing up my machine |
| 04:58.56 | scanline | I'm trying to cancel badblocks |
| 04:59.02 | scanline | ah, there it goes |
| 04:59.11 | darth_mall | so.... when does the next season of SG1 come out? |
| 04:59.19 | captain_pistachi | darth_mall: mid-jan |
| 04:59.28 | ChipX86 | darth_mall: Friday |
| 04:59.49 | darth_mall | and then the next question is: when does scanline get a copy ^^ |
| 05:00.18 | scanline | hehe |
| 05:00.27 | darth_mall | rofl |
| 05:00.34 | darth_mall | the description of this movie is awesome |
| 05:00.44 | scanline | hdc: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } |
| 05:00.44 | scanline | hdc: dma_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=119338177, high=7, low=1897665, sector=119338176 |
| 05:00.44 | scanline | end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 119338176 |
| 05:00.51 | ChipX86 | :/ |
| 05:00.52 | scanline | great errors to come from a disk that was in navi :) |
| 05:01.08 | darth_mall | 'two aspiring filmmakers who worship science fiction and '70s TV shows meet their idol, William Shatner |
| 05:01.10 | darth_mall | ; |
| 05:01.26 | darth_mall | and it's got the guy from Will and Grace |
| 05:01.35 | scanline | ooh, that's neat... |
| 05:01.36 | scanline | [ ] Remove kernel features (for embedded systems) ---> |
| 05:01.48 | scanline | no items in that menu, but it's neat to know what they're planning |
| 05:01.55 | ChipX86 | which is that? |
| 05:02.06 | KeyserSoze | the last one is the only one without bilateral symmetry |
| 05:02.06 | scanline | linux 2.6.1-pre1 |
| 05:02.16 | KeyserSoze | the circle is the only one that isn't a polygon. |
| 05:02.25 | scanline | hah, module unloading is off by default |
| 05:02.29 | scanline | who comes up with these defaults? |
| 05:02.32 | KeyserSoze | it's 5 shapes with a little circle in them. |
| 05:02.34 | kergoth | scanline: theres a patch available that adds a ton of items to it. see lkml or kernel traffic. |
| 05:02.34 | darth_mall | this doesn't even seem good enough to be a lurgy|elsewhere kinda movie |
| 05:02.40 | scanline | kergoth: ah |
| 05:02.52 | KeyserSoze | a square, circle, equilateral triangle, rectangle, and right triangle. |
| 05:03.07 | kergoth | heh, module unloading being off by default is rather sane. most people rely on module autoloading anyway and rarely autoclean |
| 05:03.18 | darth_mall | why is Sci Fi running this |
| 05:03.21 | scanline | well, it sucks for development |
| 05:03.26 | scanline | or for upgrading modules |
| 05:03.26 | kergoth | scanline: yep |
| 05:03.34 | ChipX86 | KeyserSoze: yeah, I thought along the same lines |
| 05:04.16 | file | ChipX86: what did you get? |
| 05:04.24 | ChipX86 | 133 |
| 05:04.36 | ChipX86 | every IQ test gives wildly different results |
| 05:04.45 | file | 122 here |
| 05:05.13 | darth_mall | I love how Darkman's powers is that he gets really mad |
| 05:05.27 | darth_mall | ooh, and it's got the gril who plays Gabriel on Xena |
| 05:05.31 | Cae | I'm watching Poirot |
| 05:05.32 | scanline | oooooh |
| 05:05.34 | darth_mall | all that's missing is Kevin Sorbo |
| 05:05.44 | scanline | I forgot that 2.6 doesn't need ide-scsi for CD burning |
| 05:05.54 | KeyserSoze | i don't get the last question. |
| 05:06.03 | file | KeyserSoze: I forgot what the last question is |
| 05:06.17 | darth_mall | much better than Free Enterprise, or Darkman II |
| 05:06.17 | KeyserSoze | it's got three shapes where a smaller version of an object over laps a bigger version of the object, in the corner of it. |
| 05:06.27 | file | ahhh yes |
| 05:06.32 | KeyserSoze | and then two, where a triangle is connected to a circle or rectangle by a line. |
| 05:06.34 | file | that thing... |
| 05:06.42 | KeyserSoze | i guess only one of them has two shapes of the same size |
| 05:06.42 | KeyserSoze | (both small) |
| 05:07.09 | Cae | hmmm..I wonder if we have oranges |
| 05:07.36 | ChipX86 | you do |
| 05:08.09 | Cae | how do you know? |
| 05:08.22 | KeyserSoze | i got a 140 |
| 05:08.42 | KeyserSoze | says i am a "visionary philosopher" |
| 05:09.17 | ChipX86 | inside thing |
| 05:09.23 | gonkulator | MysticOne: don't worry unless its cucumbers |
| 05:09.39 | darth_mall | hmm... so apparently I'm supposed to turn the coffee maker off and let the coffee get cold when it finishes brewing because the coffee just 'sits there getting stale and...' something I couldn't hear |
| 05:09.50 | Cae | cucumbers have little spines |
| 05:10.03 | KeyserSoze | i always thought of myself as more of a "meglomaniacal soldier of fortune" |
| 05:10.23 | KeyserSoze | Cae, don't eat it! that's a centipede! |
| 05:10.58 | Cae | cucumbers are also out of season |
| 05:11.04 | gonkulator | ok |
| 05:11.07 | gonkulator | its time for me to go |
| 05:11.08 | file | mmm... strawberries |
| 05:11.11 | file | gonkulator: noooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 05:11.57 | kergoth | argh |
| 05:12.04 | Cae | sleep well if you must |
| 05:12.06 | Cae | argh? |
| 05:12.11 | Cae | ick |
| 05:12.31 | darth_mall | uhoh! |
| 05:13.13 | Cae | what'd you spill? |
| 05:13.37 | darth_mall | tacos |
| 05:13.49 | kergoth | rum & coke |
| 05:13.51 | kergoth | mmm tacos |
| 05:13.52 | darth_mall | hmmm... actually, a taco or two would be pretty tasty |
| 05:15.50 | KeyserSoze | home made tacos? |
| 05:16.08 | MysticOne | I have home made chili |
| 05:16.10 | MysticOne | yummmmmy |
| 05:16.28 | darth_mall | KeyserSoze: where do you live? |
| 05:16.38 | KeyserSoze | Grand Rapids, Michigan |
| 05:16.48 | darth_mall | =\ |
| 05:16.56 | MysticOne | hmmmm, girls gone wild commercial |
| 05:17.02 | Cae | ChipX86: when did gaim get ported to windows? |
| 05:17.09 | darth_mall | Cae: yesterday |
| 05:17.12 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 05:17.14 | Cae | or when did wingaim first spawn itself? |
| 05:17.50 | Cae | ChipX86: pay attention! :P |
| 05:18.06 | ChipX86 | I'm here! :D |
| 05:18.13 | ChipX86 | 0.59/0.60cvs |
| 05:18.35 | ChipX86 | MysticOne: and? :) |
| 05:18.45 | darth_mall | ya know, I used to know how to play this theme on my sax |
| 05:18.50 | Cae | thanks |
| 05:19.15 | MysticOne | ChipX86: makes me think about them getting caught here with kiddie porn |
| 05:19.36 | ChipX86 | huh? |
| 05:19.43 | MysticOne | girls gone wild |
| 05:19.50 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 05:19.53 | ChipX86 | kiddie porn? |
| 05:20.04 | MysticOne | the guy that's the head of that got caught down here luring underage girls into having sex with people and filming them |
| 05:20.10 | MysticOne | like 13 and 14 year olds |
| 05:20.12 | ChipX86 | ohh yeah |
| 05:20.18 | Cae | ick |
| 05:21.04 | darth_mall | but, MysticOne, what made you think of that? |
| 05:21.56 | ChipX86 | he's watching porn |
| 05:22.06 | darth_mall | ah, of course! |
| 05:22.18 | ChipX86 | that's all he ever does |
| 05:22.22 | ChipX86 | tsk tsk |
| 05:22.32 | darth_mall | lol |
| 05:22.41 | darth_mall | "Phillips, comfortable, cramp-free relief' |
| 05:23.29 | darth_mall | oooh: buy furniture from Burlington coat factory! |
| 05:23.31 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 05:23.35 | kergoth | er? |
| 05:23.57 | darth_mall | damn |
| 05:24.12 | darth_mall | these are some very frightening ads this eveing |
| 05:24.28 | darth_mall | erm... evening |
| 05:24.50 | darth_mall | damn I love this Cortislim ad |
| 05:25.06 | darth_mall | any doctor who uses the word 'tummy' in a diet pill commercial can't possibly be a quack |
| 05:25.58 | KeyserSoze | yeah, the web stuff. |
| 05:26.01 | KeyserSoze | flash storage is cool. |
| 05:26.12 | kergoth | whew. |
| 05:26.20 | KeyserSoze | as long as it's not whatever weird proprietary shit sony is hocking |
| 05:26.56 | Cae | heh |
| 05:27.01 | kergoth | heh |
| 05:27.05 | Cae | mm..I want to go visit fry's tomorrow.. |
| 05:27.09 | Cae | I want 250gb.. |
| 05:27.17 | Cae | and a new power supply.. |
| 05:27.24 | Cae | and best buy..for a controller card.. |
| 05:28.00 | Cae | then Pax will have 360gb and Infinity will have 379gb |
| 05:28.02 | KeyserSoze | we are building a inertial navigation/targeting system for the Navy Research Labs at work. It's gonna use QNX, but one of the guys wants to keep the removable storage (CF card) readable by his windows laptopt |
| 05:28.20 | KeyserSoze | so, it'll be FAT32 instead of JFFS2, or anything reasonable. |
| 05:28.42 | captain_pistachi | well, its with a fair amount of bitterness that i scped these up, but http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/navi/ |
| 05:28.47 | kergoth | heh, jffs2 on cf isnt a good idea anyway. vfat or minix or ext2 would be best, depending on the requirements |
| 05:29.03 | KeyserSoze | really? why is that? |
| 05:29.21 | kergoth | jffs2 needs to talk at a lower level that cf gives you. |
| 05:29.24 | Cae | hm. I'm going to see if we have oranges. |
| 05:29.28 | kergoth | cf hands you a block device. |
| 05:29.35 | kergoth | jffs2 needs to operate on an mtd device. |
| 05:29.44 | KeyserSoze | oh, i didn't know that. |
| 05:29.51 | kergoth | hit up the linux-mtd mailing list archives, every once in a while someone asks about jffs2 on sd or cf |
| 05:29.59 | kergoth | you can run jffs2 on it via blkmtd, but you'll just wear the card out faster |
| 05:30.03 | kergoth | heh |
| 05:30.13 | KeyserSoze | i remember my tuxscreen used jffs2 for it's flash drive, and figured it'd prevent burning out a cf as well. |
| 05:30.16 | kergoth | the card should be doing some form of wear leveling itself |
| 05:30.21 | scanline | captain_pistachi: wow, those show off how crappy my camera is really well :) |
| 05:30.33 | darth_mall | damn but navi does look cooler with those round IDE cables >=) |
| 05:30.48 | KeyserSoze | good to know. i didn't research it once i was resigned to use FAT for this project. |
| 05:30.51 | darth_mall | now if we could just get some round IEC cables... |
| 05:31.01 | scanline | yeah, I wish we had some of thsoe |
| 05:31.03 | scanline | er, those |
| 05:31.03 | MysticOne | KeyserSoze: FAT isn't that bad ... at least it's simple |
| 05:31.09 | MysticOne | KeyserSoze: and everything can read it |
| 05:31.19 | kergoth | fat also tends to be quick, compared to ext2. at least on cf/sd |
| 05:31.38 | kergoth | minix is quick as well, but limited to 64mb max partition size, and has other limits on things like file name length |
| 05:31.42 | darth_mall | scanline: you should go pick up 2 or 3 from CompUSA tomorrow =P |
| 05:31.45 | KeyserSoze | is there a reason against ext3 or reiser on a cf card? |
| 05:32.05 | kergoth | KeyserSoze: think about what a journal is. then picture all the added writes to keep a journal updated. on flash. |
| 05:32.09 | KeyserSoze | would the journaling burn it out quicker? |
| 05:32.12 | kergoth | yep. |
| 05:32.13 | MysticOne | yes |
| 05:32.16 | darth_mall | hey! it's like lurgy|elsewhere playing FZero GX |
| 05:32.28 | kergoth | jffs2 is special, its log structured |
| 05:32.59 | captain_pistachi | darth_mall: yup |
| 05:33.11 | darth_mall | captain_pistachi: is he still there? |
| 05:33.12 | KeyserSoze | is there anywhere you can buy flash that is able to be used as a mtd device? |
| 05:33.31 | captain_pistachi | darth_mall: no |
| 05:33.34 | captain_pistachi | but he's moving back tomorrow |
| 05:33.35 | darth_mall | =( |
| 05:34.13 | darth_mall | man, I can't wait til I get a new laptop, this whole not opening the screen is really aggravating |
| 05:34.24 | kergoth | KeyserSoze: CF? not to my knowledge. definately hit up the linux mtd mailing list archives though. |
| 05:34.24 | KeyserSoze | well, could use a microdrive in a CF slot. we don't need to worry about power or heat. |
| 05:35.58 | scanline | huh, something's wrong with this: |
| 05:36.00 | scanline | Testing with random pattern: 149171684/ 29305206 |
| 05:36.00 | scanline | 1 |
| 05:36.14 | scanline | that's where the badblocks stalled |
| 05:36.21 | scanline | seems kind of... wrong |
| 05:36.55 | scanline | yay, my kernel compile finished |
| 05:37.01 | darth_mall | David Suchet is a wonderful Poirot |
| 05:37.43 | captain_pistachi | scanline: maybe the platter has a negative index of refraction |
| 05:37.45 | darth_mall | if only scanline were a short bald man with a funny little mustache... |
| 05:37.59 | scanline | captain_pistachi: whatever it is, I think that disk definitely deserves the 'cranky' sticker |
| 05:39.15 | captain_pistachi | =} |
| 05:40.30 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 05:40.35 | KeyserSoze | kergoth, ever use DiskOnChip? THe Ampro single board computer we are using has a socket for it, but we don't have plans to use it (yet) |
| 05:40.49 | kergoth | KeyserSoze: not personally |
| 05:41.51 | KeyserSoze | mtd wouldn't work on QNX, though, so it won't matter for this project. |
| 05:42.28 | kergoth | qnx cant use mtd devices? that doesnt sound right to me, I know cdm had eQip working on the Z |
| 05:43.03 | KeyserSoze | i thought this mtd thing was a part of the linux kernel? |
| 05:43.22 | KeyserSoze | i'm reading the linux mtd homepage right now, haven't gotten very far yet. |
| 05:43.43 | darth_mall | dammit, now I'm hooked on Poirot |
| 05:43.45 | kergoth | oh, you mean the actual 'mtd' drivers in linux, i thought you meant mtd hardware, e.g. flash |
| 05:44.00 | Cae | darth_mall: :) |
| 05:44.07 | kergoth | yeah, dunno what qnx supports for flash filesystems. should ask in #qnx |
| 05:45.51 | Cae | mm..highlander |
| 05:46.13 | Cae | poirot is addictive though |
| 05:46.15 | darth_mall | course, the library probly does have Poirot |
| 05:46.23 | darth_mall | hrm... |
| 05:46.35 | darth_mall | decisions decisions |
| 05:46.38 | kergoth | poirot? |
| 05:46.47 | Cae | oui |
| 05:47.33 | darth_mall | j'aime bien Poirot |
| 05:47.41 | Cae | hehe |
| 05:47.44 | darth_mall | we used to watch all the time when I was a kid, on Mystery |
| 05:48.38 | darth_mall | curse A&E for not starting this an hour ago! |
| 05:48.54 | MysticOne | man, I wanna go hang out with Dave Attell |
| 05:49.04 | Cae | lol |
| 05:49.16 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 05:51.08 | captain_pistachi | scanline: care to risk an fsck overnight on the degraded raid? :P |
| 05:51.15 | darth_mall | the other great thing about David Suchet is that he was in Wing Commander |
| 05:52.18 | lurgy|elsewhere | ooh |
| 05:52.20 | lurgy|elsewhere | poirot |
| 05:52.25 | darth_mall | yay lurgy|elsewhere! |
| 05:52.33 | lurgy|elsewhere | darth_mall: remember? i checked out that one poirot from the libaree |
| 05:52.41 | darth_mall | which? |
| 05:52.49 | lurgy|elsewhere | murder in mesopotamia |
| 05:52.53 | darth_mall | ha! |
| 05:52.56 | lurgy|elsewhere | i think the disc was corrupted though |
| 05:52.57 | darth_mall | that's the one that's on right now! |
| 05:53.02 | lurgy|elsewhere | hehe |
| 05:53.02 | lurgy|elsewhere | cool |
| 05:53.16 | lurgy|elsewhere | since the disk died about 3/4 of the way through... |
| 05:53.19 | darth_mall | but even knowing the liberry has it I'm not sure I can tear myself away |
| 05:53.25 | lurgy|elsewhere | :) |
| 05:53.26 | lurgy|elsewhere | well |
| 05:53.35 | lurgy|elsewhere | definitely watch it |
| 05:53.43 | lurgy|elsewhere | we'll have to see about how the rip looks |
| 05:53.58 | lurgy|elsewhere | yay for navi looking to be in good health |
| 05:54.17 | darth_mall | lurgy|elsewhere: it has all those sexy round and coppery cables |
| 05:54.39 | darth_mall | all it needs now is some windows and blue LEDs |
| 05:54.50 | scanline | yay |
| 05:55.04 | darth_mall | hi scanline |
| 05:55.09 | scanline | it's like, a newer leenooks |
| 05:55.10 | lurgy|elsewhere | darth_mall: yep :) |
| 05:55.13 | lurgy|elsewhere | hiya scanline |
| 05:55.15 | captain_pistachi | lurgy|elsewhere: not good health |
| 05:55.15 | lurgy|elsewhere | yay |
| 05:55.22 | lurgy|elsewhere | captain_pistachi: oh ? :( |
| 05:55.24 | captain_pistachi | lurgy|elsewhere: its getting kernel panics when we try to sync the raid |
| 05:55.30 | lurgy|elsewhere | yikes |
| 05:55.48 | lurgy|elsewhere | dern straight |
| 05:56.16 | darth_mall | and maybe a round IEC cable or 2 |
| 05:56.24 | darth_mall | you can never have too many power cords |
| 05:56.51 | scanline | captain_pistachi: did any of those kernel panics get saved? |
| 05:57.04 | captain_pistachi | scanline: no, that's the problem with oops' |
| 05:57.12 | captain_pistachi | you can't actually save them unless you have a serial terminal |
| 05:57.20 | scanline | when we get another one I'm getting my digital camera |
| 05:57.24 | lurgy|elsewhere | so |
| 05:57.27 | captain_pistachi | scanline: hehe |
| 05:57.28 | lurgy|elsewhere | just out of curiosity |
| 05:57.41 | scanline | captain_pistachi: that's how I found that bug that was crashing yoshi like crazy, in the mi6k code :) |
| 05:57.51 | captain_pistachi | :) |
| 05:58.20 | lurgy|elsewhere | there *is* an open source highpoint driver, it's just radically unstable, under both 2.4 and 2.6... but what we're using now is the binary, proprietary version, which until now has been working properly? |
| 05:58.32 | captain_pistachi | lurgy|elsewhere: exactly |
| 05:58.50 | captain_pistachi | the open source driver has a race condition that makes it so heavy activity (such as a sync) will crash the machine |
| 05:58.56 | scanline | lurgy|elsewhere: it looks like the only part that's binary is the part for hardware RAID, which we don't need |
| 05:59.13 | lurgy|elsewhere | ah |
| 05:59.46 | lurgy|elsewhere | so strictly speaking, we could even try 2.6, if we were inclined to suffer through the potential quirks of a new kernel |
| 06:00.20 | MysticOne | man, Dave Attell is the MAN |
| 06:00.38 | captain_pistachi | lurgy|elsewhere: well - the driver hasn't officially been ported to 2.6 |
| 06:00.44 | lurgy|elsewhere | ah |
| 06:00.44 | captain_pistachi | we could endeavor to port it ourselves |
| 06:00.47 | captain_pistachi | but that would be silly :) |
| 06:00.51 | lurgy|elsewhere | indeed |
| 06:00.54 | captain_pistachi | better to actually debug the oops |
| 06:00.58 | captain_pistachi | and track down the cause |
| 06:00.59 | lurgy|elsewhere | yep |
| 06:01.08 | lurgy|elsewhere | is that the current project? |
| 06:01.56 | scanline | well, the current project was me testing the old disk to see if it was really bad |
| 06:02.11 | lurgy|elsewhere | ah |
| 06:02.15 | scanline | and it locked up yoshi something fierce after reaching a certain point in the badblocks run, so I'm saying that was a big yes |
| 06:02.22 | lurgy|elsewhere | yikes |
| 06:02.28 | lurgy|elsewhere | it's like my current bad drive |
| 06:02.30 | lurgy|elsewhere | only |
| 06:02.30 | lurgy|elsewhere | bigger |
| 06:02.37 | scanline | then I got yoshi into 2.6.1-pre1 since I had to reboot anyway |
| 06:02.41 | scanline | and now.. not sure what to do next |
| 06:03.41 | darth_mall | damn Marissa Tome is such a babe |
| 06:03.56 | kergoth | darth_mall: heh, true that |
| 06:03.58 | captain_pistachi | ah, this might burn better if there were a disc in the drive |
| 06:04.13 | darth_mall | guh, that's so depressing |
| 06:04.21 | lurgy|elsewhere | narcotics... is there anything they *can't* do? |
| 06:04.50 | darth_mall | that's it! lurgy|elsewhere has found the solution! |
| 06:04.56 | darth_mall | whoa |
| 06:05.02 | kergoth | heh |
| 06:05.04 | darth_mall | 'something has gotten into my parents lately, it's the internet' |
| 06:05.21 | lurgy|elsewhere | heh |
| 06:05.29 | darth_mall | doesn't sound healthy |
| 06:05.42 | kergoth | my stepdad's hooked on porn from kazaa, and my mom is addicted to internet gambling. |
| 06:05.57 | darth_mall | but, at least MSN TV can help you avoid actually having to have contact with your parents |
| 06:05.57 | captain_pistachi | ew |
| 06:05.58 | lurgy|elsewhere | well, it's one of those newfangled interweb viruses |
| 06:06.44 | scanline | captain_pistachi: hmm, you're still backing up stuff from navi, aren't you? |
| 06:06.49 | darth_mall | oh, that reminds me |
| 06:06.57 | captain_pistachi | scanline: well, burning stuff off the backups |
| 06:06.58 | lurgy|elsewhere | hmm |
| 06:06.59 | darth_mall | captain_pistachi: that mailing list where you got the e-mail about the job I didnt' get |
| 06:07.02 | darth_mall | can I get on it? |
| 06:07.05 | captain_pistachi | darth_mall: yeah |
| 06:07.06 | scanline | ah |
| 06:07.27 | lurgy|elsewhere | oh well |
| 06:07.30 | scanline | I might want to provoke a kernel panic on navi soon to have something to debug |
| 06:07.48 | darth_mall | if you need to, there's a firewire cdburner in my room |
| 06:07.51 | captain_pistachi | scanline: mmmk, lemme just finish generating ntht isos |
| 06:07.55 | scanline | no hurry |
| 06:08.10 | scanline | it's just be nice to have something to do to navi rather than just letting it sit there |
| 06:08.25 | captain_pistachi | indeed |
| 06:08.45 | lurgy|elsewhere | i take it it's trying to resync again, or something? |
| 06:08.46 | darth_mall | scanline: you mean you don't just turn it off sometimes and sit there staring at it? |
| 06:08.57 | captain_pistachi | lurgy|elsewhere: right now we're running in degraded mode |
| 06:09.16 | lurgy|elsewhere | ah |
| 06:10.47 | Cae | wow, the angel sword site is beautiful now |
| 06:11.51 | scanline | =( |
| 06:12.10 | kergoth | Cae: woah, nice |
| 06:12.16 | kergoth | Cae: it sucks less now |
| 06:14.12 | darth_mall | lurgy|elsewhere: you should resolve to be more like Poirot |
| 06:15.11 | scanline | oh hmm |
| 06:15.17 | scanline | we have that two disk missing thing going on again |
| 06:15.34 | lurgy|elsewhere | two disk missing? |
| 06:16.19 | Cae | I love the citibank identify theft commercials |
| 06:16.28 | Cae | er, citi |
| 06:16.30 | Cae | whatever |
| 06:16.32 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 06:16.36 | lurgy|elsewhere | it's hilarious |
| 06:17.00 | lurgy|elsewhere | every browser should have a huge black popup that covers 1/4 of the screen with the page number written on it |
| 06:17.15 | Cae | lol |
| 06:17.56 | darth_mall | particularly the one that talks about how Earthlink blocks pop ups |
| 06:18.11 | lurgy|elsewhere | heh |
| 06:18.31 | scanline | so.. another navi reboot soon |
| 06:18.32 | scanline | fun! |
| 06:19.18 | scanline | k |
| 06:19.39 | hardwire | http://hardwire.bogomip.com/Projects/Software/GCT/delta_vector_encoding/ |
| 06:19.55 | hardwire | anybody feel like reading this to see if I made this idea anywhere near comprehensable? |
| 06:20.44 | darth_mall | yay fer painkillers |
| 06:20.49 | darth_mall | lurgy|elsewhere: care to share? |
| 06:20.54 | lurgy|elsewhere | hehe |
| 06:21.20 | KeyserSoze | ooh, I once got a prescription for 800mg ibuprofen, and muscle relaxants... |
| 06:21.21 | KeyserSoze | that was *fun* |
| 06:21.33 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 06:21.41 | darth_mall | KeyserSoze: do a lot of driving did you? |
| 06:21.48 | Cae | I hate painkillers and sedatives |
| 06:22.09 | MysticOne | Cae: why? |
| 06:22.18 | MysticOne | ambien is the best stuff in the world |
| 06:22.19 | KeyserSoze | darth_mall: nope, just relaxed. |
| 06:22.23 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 06:22.30 | MysticOne | anyone here had ambien? |
| 06:22.37 | lurgy|elsewhere | nope |
| 06:22.56 | MysticOne | ambien is a really fast acting sleep medicine ... |
| 06:22.58 | MysticOne | you take it, and poof |
| 06:23.03 | MysticOne | in 30 minutes, you get really sleepy |
| 06:23.09 | MysticOne | lay down, go to sleep |
| 06:23.14 | MysticOne | it puts you in the deepest sleep |
| 06:23.19 | MysticOne | but it's out of your system within 2 hours |
| 06:23.29 | MysticOne | if you woke up after 2 hours, you're not groggy or anything |
| 06:23.47 | scanline | how does that work unless you wake up to take a leak before you've been asleep 2 hours? |
| 06:23.50 | MysticOne | if you can stay awake for 2 hours after taking it, the effects just disappear and you're no longer tired |
| 06:23.51 | darth_mall | best feeling is a good 2 hour workout, nice dinner and bed |
| 06:23.54 | pagefault | boring |
| 06:24.06 | MysticOne | scanline: hmmmm? |
| 06:24.18 | scanline | MysticOne: yeah, but it won't actually be out of your system :) |
| 06:24.20 | MysticOne | you go into such a nice, relaxing, deep sleep that you sleep all night ... |
| 06:24.22 | lurgy|elsewhere | hmm.... |
| 06:24.26 | lurgy|elsewhere | bedtime!!!! |
| 06:24.27 | pagefault | hehe |
| 06:24.30 | pagefault | night |
| 06:24.34 | darth_mall | scanline: that way you wet the bed ;) |
| 06:24.59 | pagefault | aww |
| 06:24.59 | MysticOne | scanline: well, it's out of your system in 2 hours, waiting to be peed out :) |
| 06:24.59 | darth_mall | then you're bed gets to use it too! |
| 06:24.59 | MysticOne | and in your bladder, it doesnt' make you sleepy :) |
| 06:25.27 | darth_mall | still pretty tired from that LAN party widget |
| 06:26.56 | captain_pistachi | hmm, still having problems with disc 7 |
| 06:27.05 | captain_pistachi | i think 7 & 8 might have bitten the dust at the same time =P |
| 06:27.07 | MysticOne | disc 7? |
| 06:27.18 | darth_mall | =\ |
| 06:27.27 | captain_pistachi | MysticOne: yeah |
| 06:29.10 | scanline | captain_pistachi: well, that would make a lot of sense.. more than a controller failing in this way |
| 06:29.19 | scanline | and I can afford another compusa disk |
| 06:29.30 | pagefault | http://www.dslreports.com/r0/download/502350~e11906bbb178915796c621ab96e8ea4c/rogershsi.jpg |
| 06:31.14 | scanline | 9am-9pm |
| 06:31.45 | captain_pistachi | scanline: we'll have to dupe at least one disk in this situation =/; |
| 06:31.52 | Cae | michael jackson looks freaky |
| 06:32.04 | scanline | captain_pistachi: yeah :-/ |
| 06:32.08 | darth_mall | did he get in trouble for something again? or is A&E running out of shows? |
| 06:32.22 | Cae | running out of shows |
| 06:32.26 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 06:32.41 | darth_mall | Cae: quick call! |
| 06:32.41 | captain_pistachi | scanline: =/ |
| 06:32.55 | darth_mall | I have no idea what this is for, but something about only 200 callers |
| 06:32.58 | darth_mall | so hurry! |
| 06:33.04 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 06:33.11 | captain_pistachi | scanline: well, i've got isos for enough stuff to burn for a while |
| 06:34.00 | darth_mall | mmm... gravity defying space mattresses designed by NASA from sweden |
| 06:34.09 | kergoth | heh |
| 06:34.12 | kergoth | bored |
| 06:34.16 | Cae | lol |
| 06:34.38 | darth_mall | and apparently we have metal springed mattresses to blame for pressure points |
| 06:34.49 | darth_mall | I guess it has nothing to do with nerves or anything like that |
| 06:35.14 | darth_mall | and if you ever want to use your bed as a coaster or coffee table tempurpedic is the mattress for you! |
| 06:35.37 | darth_mall | I love commercials, they're so funny |
| 06:36.49 | KeyserSoze | commercials are insidious |
| 06:36.59 | KeyserSoze | heh. darth insidious. |
| 06:37.03 | KeyserSoze | :) |
| 06:37.20 | darth_mall | yeeesss... |
| 06:37.46 | darth_mall | yes, the darth mall, it's where star wars figures come from |
| 06:38.01 | KeyserSoze | just the evil ones, I assume |
| 06:38.06 | darth_mall | it's an old joke from HS |
| 06:38.22 | KeyserSoze | oh, was "darth maul" in one of the movies? |
| 06:38.24 | darth_mall | my best friend and I were making fun of this kid on the bus |
| 06:38.31 | darth_mall | KeyserSoze: yeah, episode 1 |
| 06:38.55 | KeyserSoze | was he the guy that was hyped up to be a badass, but he died in like two minutes? |
| 06:39.15 | darth_mall | waqphael is flipping through this Star Wars catalog thingy the kid had, doing a 'lifestyles of the rich and famous' voice making up captions for the lame collectibles |
| 06:39.27 | darth_mall | and finished with: "and you can purchase them at the darth mall" |
| 06:39.45 | darth_mall | KeyserSoze: dunno, all I saw of that movie was the wicked fight scene at the end |
| 06:40.02 | darth_mall | but Ray Park is a pretty good martial artist |
| 06:40.10 | darth_mall | he also played Toad in X-Men |
| 06:40.22 | Cae | yup |
| 06:40.25 | KeyserSoze | was he the actor, or the stunt guy? |
| 06:40.38 | darth_mall | he applied for the fight coordinator |
| 06:40.48 | darth_mall | but when Lucas saw his demo tape he asked him to play Darth Maul |
| 06:41.03 | KeyserSoze | i mean in X-Men. |
| 06:41.08 | darth_mall | oh, actor |
| 06:41.12 | KeyserSoze | hmmm. |
| 06:41.18 | darth_mall | so he did his own stunts |
| 06:41.32 | KeyserSoze | i thought that toad was a bit of a little guy, and darth whatsis was rather larger |
| 06:41.33 | darth_mall | but you don't really get to see a lot of his talent in that movie |
| 06:41.47 | KeyserSoze | could just be camera angles, and extensive crouching in X-Men |
| 06:41.48 | darth_mall | he hunched a lot in that movie |
| 06:43.57 | KeyserSoze | he had a kick ass mutant power, though. the ladies would dig a guy with that tongue |
| 06:49.08 | Cae | maybe |
| 06:49.25 | kergoth | 000/win 21 |
| 06:49.26 | kergoth | bleh |
| 06:50.40 | Cae | hm. as soon as poirot's over, I'll wander downstairs and check out the HP |
| 06:55.04 | file | pagefault: lol |
| 06:57.01 | pagefault | mmm |
| 06:57.02 | pagefault | poirot |
| 06:57.07 | pagefault | good stuff |
| 06:58.10 | pagefault | I feel like playing DDR |
| 06:58.18 | pagefault | and I have no idea why since I hate it |
| 06:59.48 | pagefault | at least it's not RAMBUS |
| 06:59.49 | pagefault | : |
| 06:59.50 | pagefault | :) |
| 06:59.52 | Cae | time to go troubleshoot |
| 06:59.59 | Cae | back in a while |
| 07:00.29 | *** join/#tacobeam darth_iBook (~evan@c-24-8-255-26.client.comcast.net) |
| 07:00.37 | darth_iBook | yay more Poirot |
| 07:00.49 | pagefault | where |
| 07:00.51 | pagefault | A&E? |
| 07:00.54 | darth_iBook | A&E |
| 07:00.58 | pagefault | awesome |
| 07:00.59 | pagefault | I am there |
| 07:01.01 | darth_iBook | this one's only an hour though |
| 07:01.17 | pagefault | it's amazing though |
| 07:01.20 | pagefault | they casted him perfectly |
| 07:01.25 | pagefault | from the description in the book |
| 07:01.36 | pagefault | oh |
| 07:01.39 | pagefault | well it's a very good cast |
| 07:01.41 | darth_iBook | but I love this show, David Suchet is awesome |
| 07:01.46 | darth_iBook | and he's in Wing Commander |
| 07:01.46 | pagefault | yeah |
| 07:02.03 | darth_iBook | but it seems that A&E's website keeps crashing mozilla and galeon =P |
| 07:02.09 | pagefault | ok |
| 07:02.11 | pagefault | watching |
| 07:02.48 | pagefault | I think they are all old now though |
| 07:03.05 | pagefault | didn't they stop making them? |
| 07:03.08 | darth_iBook | which? |
| 07:03.12 | pagefault | poirot |
| 07:03.17 | darth_iBook | I'm not sure |
| 07:04.02 | file | I didn't know it did crontabs till I stayed up this late... |
| 07:04.14 | pagefault | sleep sucks |
| 07:04.26 | file | true. |
| 07:04.28 | pagefault | they need to invent a way to regenerate |
| 07:04.30 | pagefault | while staying awake |
| 07:04.56 | darth_iBook | hmmm... no captain_proton |
| 07:04.59 | pagefault | what does sleeping actually do anyway |
| 07:05.29 | darth_iBook | erm... how do you mean? |
| 07:05.33 | file | wth is Bravo airing... |
| 07:05.35 | pagefault | I mean I know what it does |
| 07:05.42 | pagefault | but what does it do scientifically |
| 07:06.42 | KeyserSoze | in that case, it doesn't do anything, or than keep you unconscious |
| 07:07.09 | pagefault | interesting |
| 07:07.09 | KeyserSoze | darth_iBook, i think it's like subterfuge |
| 07:07.13 | kergoth | i've of the opinion that the dreams help us retain our sanity. reliance on an escape. |
| 07:07.15 | darth_iBook | KeyserSoze: I'd wager the guy that thought that up has never tried staying up for 24 hours or more |
| 07:07.44 | KeyserSoze | why? |
| 07:07.47 | darth_iBook | kergoth: I think, thoug I do agree with you, that what sleep does and what dreams do are two different questions |
| 07:07.51 | darth_iBook | even though dreams occur at night |
| 07:07.59 | darth_iBook | s/at night/when we're asleep/ |
| 07:08.43 | KeyserSoze | well, according to the theory i mentioned, dreams don't really have a purpose. they just happen when you're asleep because you've got a big honkin brain, and all it's inputs are shut off. |
| 07:08.49 | kergoth | darth_iBook: eh, everyone dreams at least 3-6 times a night. sleeping without dreaming is known to case serious psyhcological issues, which just serves to reinforce my point |
| 07:09.07 | darth_iBook | kergoth: no no, I agree with you totally |
| 07:09.07 | KeyserSoze | i don't necessarily agree with the theory BTW, it's just the most original one I've heard. |
| 07:09.24 | pagefault | yeah you always dream |
| 07:09.31 | pagefault | but you may not remember it |
| 07:09.37 | kergoth | pagefault: yup |
| 07:10.01 | darth_iBook | what I'm saying is, dreams probably serve a different purpose than sleep |
| 07:10.19 | darth_iBook | one theory I was taught was sleep regenerates the body physically, and dreams mentally |
| 07:10.36 | KeyserSoze | hmm. i don't know if i can think of a reason for sleep other than rest, besides dreaming. |
| 07:10.44 | darth_iBook | one of the theories about dreams I rather liked is that it's kind of flushing the buffers in the brain |
| 07:10.57 | KeyserSoze | well yeah, except lying down motionless would regenerate the body as well as sleep does, right? |
| 07:11.09 | darth_iBook | KeyserSoze: not necessarily |
| 07:11.12 | ChipX86 | nope |
| 07:11.19 | darth_iBook | most people are more tense when they're awake |
| 07:11.25 | darth_iBook | even if they're lying down 'relaxing' |
| 07:11.26 | ChipX86 | if I don't dream, I don't rest |
| 07:11.36 | darth_iBook | they aren't as relaxed as when they're asleep |
| 07:11.44 | kergoth | darth_iBook: yep, agreed |
| 07:12.27 | KeyserSoze | it seems though, that the altered state of consciousness required to effectively rest, would be more "awake" than that required to rest your brain. |
| 07:12.40 | darth_iBook | but in any case, I think the only thing any psychologist can say with any certainty about dreams is that we don't know a whole lot about them ^^ |
| 07:13.12 | darth_iBook | I'd wager the affects of sleep on the body are a little easier to measure than effects of dreams |
| 07:13.14 | kergoth | KeyserSoze: so you theorize that your mind being in an entirely delta state isnt an effective rest? |
| 07:13.16 | darth_iBook | s/affects/effects/ |
| 07:13.50 | darth_iBook | 'course, I'm just a junior in college, which qualifies me to know nothing ^^ |
| 07:14.03 | kergoth | you know whats really interesting, is using audio waves to alter your mind's state. the windows 'cool' wave editor has a built in function for it |
| 07:14.12 | Cae | back |
| 07:14.14 | KeyserSoze | kergoth, no, just that in the hypothetical case where sleep only rested the body and not the mind, the sleeping animal would be more sensitive to external stimuli. |
| 07:14.17 | darth_iBook | wb Cae |
| 07:14.18 | kergoth | can put yourself into specific states nearly on command |
| 07:14.27 | Cae | that was a brief exercise in futility. |
| 07:14.32 | kergoth | KeyserSoze: ah, I see. certainly a possibility |
| 07:14.39 | darth_iBook | Cae: what's that? |
| 07:14.47 | Cae | confirmed that there's no physical damage to the usb ports on the computer. |
| 07:14.52 | Cae | which I knew |
| 07:15.11 | Cae | and affirmed that that system is being powered by something less than 200w |
| 07:15.33 | KeyserSoze | that's what attracted me to the theory i mentioned above. that being unconscious isn't a side effect of some process, but it's purposefully there to keep us from wandering into danger in the dark. |
| 07:15.47 | Cae | for a hard drive, two optical drives, a floppy, an amd chip, 768mb of ram, a graphics card, an ethernet card, etc, etc |
| 07:15.52 | darth_iBook | KeyserSoze: right, but it doesn't really make a lot of sense |
| 07:15.57 | file | Cae: O.o |
| 07:16.03 | darth_iBook | since a whole number of problems occur if we don't sleep |
| 07:16.13 | KeyserSoze | darth_iBook, no, but neither does being unconscious for half your life |
| 07:16.26 | kergoth | KeyserSoze: well, we're agreed that the purpose of sleep is more than physical rest, but i agree with other theories on the reason behind it |
| 07:16.28 | ChipX86 | KeyserSoze: programming flaw |
| 07:16.30 | darth_iBook | why doesn't that make sense? |
| 07:17.01 | Cae | so, given that infinity, who has two cpus, two hard drives, and one ethernet card and is powered by a slightly more powerful psu is at borderline for power.. |
| 07:17.08 | darth_iBook | and that doesn't explain why nocturnal animals sleep during the day |
| 07:17.08 | ChipX86 | I like dreams a lot (except the ones I've had lately, where I die and remain in the dream, and the other bad ones), but going to bed.. not so much |
| 07:17.18 | KeyserSoze | well, obviously a hypothetical animal that could be healthily awake continously would have an evolutionary advantage over one that can't. |
| 07:17.35 | kergoth | heh, i never remember my dreams. or I remember one, the most recent. if that. |
| 07:17.39 | kergoth | KeyserSoze: agreed. |
| 07:17.56 | darth_iBook | KeyserSoze: right |
| 07:17.57 | ChipX86 | I sometimes remember 3 or 4, but it's usually 1 or 2 |
| 07:18.00 | KeyserSoze | Assuming it has the sense to only be active when it benefits it, ie. not trying to be active during periods of time when it's main sense input, vision, is reduced in effectiveness by darkness |
| 07:18.14 | kergoth | ChipX86: only when you wake up momentarily between them, correct? |
| 07:18.18 | ChipX86 | nope |
| 07:18.29 | darth_iBook | KeyserSoze: but that still doesn't explain animals like bats |
| 07:18.44 | KeyserSoze | maybe bats are unsuited to being up and about during the day? |
| 07:18.54 | darth_iBook | but they aren't really |
| 07:18.59 | Cae | bats have evolved to hunt when their prey is active |
| 07:19.21 | KeyserSoze | their eyes pretty much suck, and while echolocation beats sight in low light conditions, it's no match for the site of birds of prey during the day time. |
| 07:19.26 | darth_iBook | KeyserSoze: that's not true |
| 07:19.31 | file | evolution, so amusing |
| 07:19.50 | KeyserSoze | Cae, yeah, but maybe they only filled that niche because other predators already filled the more desireable daytime slots. |
| 07:19.54 | darth_iBook | their eyes are fairly normal, they use the sonar stuff because they hunt at night and their eyes, like ours, aren't good at night |
| 07:20.08 | darth_iBook | the idea that bats are 'blind' is a misnomer |
| 07:20.14 | darth_iBook | as I recall |
| 07:20.21 | KeyserSoze | darth_iBook, I didn't know that. very interesting. |
| 07:20.29 | darth_iBook | I could be misremembering |
| 07:20.35 | darth_iBook | but I'm pretty sure that that's the case |
| 07:20.51 | kergoth | darth_iBook: well, what he said that was that echolocation doesnt beat sight. which doesnt necessarily argue against the lack of vision |
| 07:20.54 | kergoth | heh |
| 07:21.16 | darth_iBook | so, assuming I'm remembering correctly, bats aren't in any danger during the day |
| 07:21.30 | darth_iBook | though, their hunting is easier when the prey is impaired by night |
| 07:21.43 | darth_iBook | but that doesn't explain why they sleep during the day |
| 07:21.49 | darth_iBook | and why their prey doesn't sleep at night |
| 07:22.21 | ChipX86 | argh!! It's Friday! I missed the shows I wanted to watch |
| 07:22.25 | KeyserSoze | yes, but maybe they only sleep during the day, because being nocturnal was a late edition (evolutionarily speaking) to the preexisting pattern of diurnalism. so, instead of being active all the time, which would be a major revision, they just did a quick bug-fix that flipped the clock by 12 hours. |
| 07:22.35 | darth_iBook | KeyserSoze: I hope you understand I'm not trying to pick a fight or anything, but I'm rather enjoying exploring this theory |
| 07:22.44 | KeyserSoze | darth_iBook: me too. |
| 07:23.03 | KeyserSoze | do insects sleep? |
| 07:23.38 | kergoth | heh, interesting theory, but maybe they still need *physical* rest.. theres nothing arguing that they'd need the same mental rest we do.. |
| 07:23.42 | ChipX86 | http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/minsectsleep.html |
| 07:23.44 | KeyserSoze | http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/minsectsleep.html |
| 07:23.46 | KeyserSoze | lol |
| 07:23.51 | ChipX86 | beat you! |
| 07:23.53 | darth_iBook | hehe |
| 07:23.59 | KeyserSoze | i read it before i posted it. |
| 07:24.35 | kergoth | hehe |
| 07:25.54 | darth_iBook | I wish I froze at night |
| 07:26.22 | KeyserSoze | i wish i had that antifreeze blood, like frogs that can freeze in a pond over the winter, and thaw in the spring |
| 07:26.45 | file | it contains a protein or something that protects them against crystals in their blood doesn't it? |
| 07:26.55 | KeyserSoze | you know, just to fuck with people. "ooh look everyone, i found a frozen iceman. lets thaw him out" |
| 07:27.11 | darth_iBook | hehe |
| 07:27.34 | kergoth | hehe |
| 07:28.05 | darth_iBook | why does every channel need it's own reality show |
| 07:29.21 | darth_iBook | man Dick Clark is a *very* scary person |
| 07:29.24 | darth_iBook | oh wait |
| 07:29.28 | darth_iBook | that's Casey Casem |
| 07:29.33 | darth_iBook | he's really creepy too |
| 07:29.39 | kergoth | heh |
| 07:29.55 | file | will Dick Clark ever die? |
| 07:29.59 | darth_iBook | nope |
| 07:30.02 | kergoth | i hope so |
| 07:30.02 | kergoth | heh |
| 07:30.19 | darth_iBook | they'll put his head in a jar and have him host the new year thingy from there |
| 07:30.22 | darth_iBook | like in Futurama |
| 07:30.25 | kergoth | hehe |
| 07:30.29 | KeyserSoze | lol |
| 07:30.30 | file | probably |
| 07:30.44 | darth_iBook | and he'll live with Leonard Nimoy and Pamela Anderson |
| 07:30.46 | darth_iBook | like in Futurama |
| 07:30.47 | darth_iBook | ;) |
| 07:31.03 | KeyserSoze | pam anderson as just a head? |
| 07:31.11 | darth_iBook | yeah |
| 07:31.18 | darth_iBook | it was like season 1 episode 7 or something |
| 07:31.20 | KeyserSoze | were there two big bags of saline next to the head? |
| 07:31.23 | pagefault | gotta collect them all! |
| 07:31.23 | *** join/#tacobeam captain_pistachi (~blardebla@navi.cs.colorado.edu) |
| 07:31.30 | darth_iBook | the one about the anchovies |
| 07:31.35 | darth_iBook | KeyserSoze: hehe |
| 07:31.45 | file | don't forget about lucy liu(sp?) |
| 07:31.50 | darth_iBook | oh yeah |
| 07:31.52 | pagefault | and nixon |
| 07:31.56 | file | yup |
| 07:32.00 | *** join/#tacobeam ` (~micah@navi.cs.colorado.edu) |
| 07:32.14 | darth_iBook | s'just that Leonard Nimoy and Pam Anderson were the first to pop into my head |
| 07:32.18 | darth_iBook | hi ` |
| 07:32.23 | darth_iBook | cute nick ;) |
| 07:32.24 | file | hi scanline |
| 07:33.06 | ` | ergh |
| 07:33.09 | file | perhaps you should eat something that's kinda food |
| 07:33.10 | ` | why is it defaulting to this... |
| 07:34.01 | darth_iBook | yay it's the real scanline! |
| 07:35.25 | *** join/#tacobeam CIA-4 (~CIA-4@navi.cs.colorado.edu) |
| 07:35.42 | darth_iBook | yay fer CIA-4 |
| 07:35.56 | captain_pistachi | hi darth_iBook |
| 07:36.02 | darth_iBook | captain_pistachi: how's it coming? |
| 07:36.06 | darth_iBook | any luck at all? |
| 07:36.19 | captain_pistachi | darth_iBook: well, scanline is going to try tracking down the kernel bug |
| 07:36.30 | file | poor navi... :\ |
| 07:36.33 | scanline | and in the morning I'm probably going to be getting another replacement disk |
| 07:36.35 | captain_pistachi | however, its likely that tomorrow we'll get yet another disk and it'll all work happy |
| 07:36.40 | scanline | :) |
| 07:36.42 | scanline | hopefully |
| 07:37.00 | pagefault | wacky pistachi |
| 07:37.26 | file | why did my workstation suddenly go off screensaver... |
| 07:37.39 | pagefault | earthquake |
| 07:37.46 | darth_iBook | file: gremlins |
| 07:37.51 | file | I've never encountered an earthquake |
| 07:37.55 | captain_pistachi | burglars |
| 07:38.05 | file | flying bananas! |
| 07:38.06 | pagefault | someone having too much fun in the other room |
| 07:38.51 | pagefault | I must call now |
| 07:38.54 | pagefault | for free inventors kit |
| 07:38.57 | darth_iBook | hehe |
| 07:38.59 | scanline | captain_pistachi: arrrrrrr |
| 07:39.02 | file | did I heard the words... free? |
| 07:39.03 | scanline | d09d1060 __insmod_hpt374_S.text_L68313 [hpt374] |
| 07:39.08 | captain_pistachi | scanline: pirates? |
| 07:39.18 | scanline | that's about where it's crashing |
| 07:41.03 | pagefault | man |
| 07:41.07 | pagefault | another jackson documentary |
| 07:41.29 | KeyserSoze | peter or michael? |
| 07:41.36 | darth_iBook | michael |
| 07:41.39 | pagefault | michael |
| 07:41.41 | KeyserSoze | eww |
| 07:41.47 | darth_iBook | A&E is running out of shows to run |
| 07:42.48 | KeyserSoze | anyone in here into cars? here's a pic of the 2005 corvette (top) compared to the 97 through 2004 model http://home.pacbell.net/roxent/gx624/perspectivesm.jpg |
| 07:44.07 | KeyserSoze | http://home.pacbell.net/roxent/gx624/frontc6c5.jpg |
| 07:44.23 | darth_iBook | KeyserSoze: cute |
| 07:45.03 | darth_iBook | space grant gave scanline a car |
| 07:45.07 | darth_iBook | ^^ |
| 07:45.16 | KeyserSoze | space grant? |
| 07:45.17 | KeyserSoze | car? |
| 07:45.21 | darth_iBook | where he works |
| 07:45.28 | KeyserSoze | http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/image/1223200314245444.jpg |
| 07:45.41 | KeyserSoze | what kind of car? just gave it to him? |
| 07:45.44 | captain_pistachi | hooray, ntht is backed up |
| 07:45.48 | KeyserSoze | that's pretty cool |
| 07:45.50 | file | with all the stuff he does they should give him the building |
| 07:45.56 | darth_iBook | KeyserSoze: the hot wheels kind ^^ |
| 07:46.03 | KeyserSoze | lol |
| 07:46.32 | KeyserSoze | when i started at my new job 6 months ago, i told a couple guys that I got my vette from the boss as a signing bonus. |
| 07:46.32 | darth_iBook | but it says 'the fuzz' on it or something |
| 07:47.13 | darth_iBook | KeyserSoze: you have a corvette? |
| 07:47.34 | KeyserSoze | yeah, it just became the "old" kind :) |
| 07:47.46 | darth_iBook | neat |
| 07:48.11 | KeyserSoze | i've had it for 3 years now, my first big purchase after getting out of college. |
| 07:48.31 | darth_iBook | nice |
| 07:48.37 | darth_iBook | mine will likely be a car too |
| 07:48.42 | darth_iBook | if I'm lucky |
| 07:48.46 | KeyserSoze | what kind? |
| 07:48.50 | darth_iBook | either a Prius or a Civic hybrid |
| 07:48.56 | KeyserSoze | nah, get a vette! |
| 07:49.06 | darth_iBook | haven't test driven either so I don't really know |
| 07:49.12 | darth_iBook | mom says the Prius is nicer |
| 07:49.17 | darth_iBook | but it's also pricier |
| 07:49.26 | darth_iBook | and I may be fine in the Civic since I don't have a bad back |
| 07:50.04 | KeyserSoze | i got a use car for a couple grand when i graduated, then socked money away until i bought the vette. |
| 07:50.38 | darth_iBook | dad's got an insight, but I'd rather have something I can fit more than 2 people in |
| 07:50.41 | KeyserSoze | why? |
| 07:50.46 | darth_iBook | why?? |
| 07:50.47 | KeyserSoze | (re: hybrid) |
| 07:50.53 | darth_iBook | 70mpg for one thing |
| 07:51.02 | darth_iBook | not to mention the low emissions |
| 07:51.19 | darth_iBook | dad works on ethanol at the National Renewable Energy Labs here in Golden |
| 07:51.27 | pagefault | woah |
| 07:51.30 | KeyserSoze | why is 70mpg good? to save gas money, to reduce emissions, or to go longer between fillups? |
| 07:51.33 | pagefault | my ISP's mail is super uber lagged |
| 07:51.39 | darth_iBook | KeyserSoze: yes ^^ |
| 07:51.49 | file | pagefault: it's Bell, can't expect miracles |
| 07:51.59 | darth_iBook | but the gas mileage has nothing to do with emissions |
| 07:52.00 | pagefault | pry getting hit by bombs of spam |
| 07:52.01 | KeyserSoze | the cost savings really isn't significant, if you figure out the cost of gas for a year. |
| 07:52.05 | pagefault | this e-mail is from 8 PM |
| 07:52.08 | pagefault | and I got it now :/ |
| 07:52.14 | darth_iBook | KeyserSoze: it's been pretty significant for dad |
| 07:52.22 | KeyserSoze | how much a year? |
| 07:52.25 | darth_iBook | dunno |
| 07:52.37 | darth_iBook | but he's got a 5 gallon tank and only fills up about once a month |
| 07:52.47 | pagefault | cher is man |
| 07:52.50 | pagefault | I think |
| 07:52.53 | darth_iBook | hehe |
| 07:52.56 | KeyserSoze | lol |
| 07:54.13 | kergoth | thatd be interesting |
| 07:56.20 | KeyserSoze | if i put 15,000 miles on my vette at 20mpg, and gas is 1.5 a gallon, that's 1125$. 15000miles at 50mpg is 450$, or a savings of $675 |
| 07:56.32 | KeyserSoze | (assuming same price per gallon for each) |
| 07:57.32 | KeyserSoze | now, what if you had a choice of buying a used car that gets 30mpg and runs on 87 octane, versus buying a new car that gets 50mpg on 93 octane? it'd take years and years for you to come out ahead with the new car, if you ever do |
| 07:58.20 | KeyserSoze | similarly, if a new hybrid car costs 10 grand more than a new gas only car that gets 50mpg, the gas savings would take 10-20 years to recoup the 10 grand. |
| 07:59.04 | file | but daddy we want the savings now! |
| 08:00.25 | KeyserSoze | ah, i forgot to take into account all the money i save on amusement park rides, by driving a vette everyday. |
| 08:00.47 | KeyserSoze | :D |
| 08:00.59 | ChipX86 | right, because we all go to amusement parks for lunch and sometimes before school/work |
| 08:01.01 | darth_iBook | heh |
| 08:02.16 | darth_iBook | KeyserSoze: I'd wager that if I drove my car as much as dad drives his, I'd spend at least 4 times as much on gas a year as he does |
| 08:02.22 | darth_iBook | and I get about 30 mpg |
| 08:03.06 | KeyserSoze | so he gets 120mpg? that's pretty awesome. |
| 08:03.13 | darth_iBook | no |
| 08:03.23 | darth_iBook | he gets 70 and has a gas tank that's half the size |
| 08:04.04 | darth_iBook | he puts half the amount of gas in half as frequently as I would |
| 08:04.07 | KeyserSoze | if he gets 70mpg, and you get 30mpg, you only buy 2.333 times as much gas as him. |
| 08:04.22 | KeyserSoze | tank size is irrelevant to total spent on gas. |
| 08:04.39 | darth_iBook | how so? |
| 08:04.52 | darth_iBook | every time he fills up he puts half as much gas in the tank |
| 08:05.00 | kergoth | boredd |
| 08:05.14 | KeyserSoze | okay, but if his tank is half the size, you both fill up an equal number of times. |
| 08:05.23 | file | kergoth: did you inquire on free month of inet service? |
| 08:05.36 | KeyserSoze | gallons = miles / mpg. |
| 08:05.52 | kergoth | file: nah, too lazy to call today |
| 08:06.48 | darth_iBook | KeyserSoze: lemme put it this way, if I drove as much as him I'd probably put at least 30$ a month with gas prices as they are |
| 08:07.07 | darth_iBook | he'd do 8-10, tops |
| 08:07.10 | darth_iBook | but that's just a guess |
| 08:07.33 | KeyserSoze | then you're guess isn't based on the ratio of gas used (for the same mileage) being 70/30, which it should be |
| 08:07.45 | darth_iBook | but the savings are significant, and more importantly he's using fewer resources and polluting less |
| 08:11.51 | captain_pistachi | yay, all clean |
| 08:12.14 | darth_iBook | yay for adult entertainment ads! they're so great |
| 08:12.40 | ChipX86 | they're pathetic usually |
| 08:12.45 | darth_iBook | it's a good thing that one spelled 'girl' for me, otherwise I wouldn't have been able to dial that number |
| 08:12.56 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 08:12.56 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 08:12.57 | KeyserSoze | lol |
| 08:13.10 | darth_iBook | oh good, and that one only had 3 different digits, so it was nice and simple |
| 08:13.18 | ChipX86 | call |
| 08:13.36 | darth_iBook | it's really simple, 2 8's 2 0's and a bunch of 1' |
| 08:13.37 | darth_iBook | s |
| 08:13.42 | darth_iBook | now if only I could remember the order.. |
| 08:16.48 | captain_pistachi | hooray |
| 08:17.00 | darth_iBook | ^^ |
| 08:18.27 | darth_iBook | it's quite possible that Wayne's World was Mike Meyer's crowning achievement |
| 08:18.58 | captain_pistachi | heh |
| 08:19.07 | kergoth | heh |
| 08:19.12 | darth_iBook | which, is kinda a good thing, I guess... |
| 08:19.42 | darth_iBook | even the sequel wasn't horrible |
| 08:21.23 | darth_iBook | and it has Christopher Walken in it |
| 08:21.28 | darth_iBook | so it's automatically cool |
| 08:21.58 | kergoth | christopher walken's voice rocks |
| 08:23.04 | darth_iBook | yay Garth! |
| 08:23.46 | darth_iBook | lol |
| 08:23.53 | darth_iBook | this really was a funny sequel |
| 08:27.21 | pagefault | hmm |
| 08:27.29 | pagefault | someone got upgraded |
| 08:27.31 | pagefault | not me yet though |
| 08:27.32 | darth_iBook | wasn't Traffic a movie? |
| 08:27.44 | KeyserSoze | did you get to the part that shows Stevens' "Unix network programming"? |
| 08:27.49 | darth_iBook | hmm... yeah |
| 08:28.04 | darth_iBook | so apparently USA has turned that movie into a miniseries |
| 08:29.34 | darth_iBook | hmmm... but do I want to stay up til 3am to watch this movie |
| 08:29.49 | kergoth | traffic was a decent movie. havent seen it in years toh |
| 08:29.50 | kergoth | tho |
| 08:30.28 | KeyserSoze | unix network programming was a pretty good book |
| 08:30.52 | darth_iBook | lol |
| 08:31.08 | darth_iBook | there's at least 2 different numbers whose last 4 digits spell 'girl' |
| 08:31.26 | darth_iBook | I love watching TV at this time of day! all the commercials are the same |
| 08:31.43 | KeyserSoze | wouldn't there be 3^4 = 81? |
| 08:32.06 | darth_iBook | KeyserSoze? |
| 08:32.26 | captain_pistachi | well, technically there are 1000 ;) |
| 08:32.27 | KeyserSoze | er, wait. that's backward |
| 08:32.42 | darth_iBook | yay for the guy who plays Al Bundy! |
| 08:32.53 | KeyserSoze | each 4 digit number has 3^4 different letter spellings |
| 08:32.55 | darth_iBook | he's actually pretty funny, despite his involvement with Married With Children |
| 08:33.02 | captain_pistachi | oh, that |
| 08:33.03 | darth_iBook | KeyserSoze: right, I got ya |
| 08:33.17 | KeyserSoze | that's why humans need sleep! they invert math problems when they don't have it! |
| 08:33.19 | KeyserSoze | :) |
| 08:33.23 | darth_iBook | rather, what I should have said was I've seen at least 2 commercials with those numbers |
| 08:33.29 | darth_iBook | KeyserSoze: ^^ |
| 08:34.15 | darth_iBook | that's such an great idea! |
| 08:34.55 | KeyserSoze | 4475 |
| 08:35.36 | darth_iBook | god, he always does this gag |
| 08:35.48 | darth_iBook | it's just like the mole gag in Austin Powers 2 |
| 08:35.51 | KeyserSoze | just remembered now :) |
| 08:35.59 | KeyserSoze | now i know i really need sleep.... |
| 08:36.04 | KeyserSoze | g'night |
| 08:36.10 | darth_iBook | KeyserSoze: I try to tab complete most things these days |
| 08:36.34 | ChipX86 | wish you could tab complete dates. It'd make things much easier |
| 08:37.07 | captain_pistachi | ChipX86: in the shell? |
| 08:37.14 | ChipX86 | dates with girls |
| 08:37.18 | captain_pistachi | oh |
| 08:37.19 | sbahra | Hey ChipX86 |
| 08:37.21 | ChipX86 | hey |
| 08:37.24 | captain_pistachi | hehe |
| 08:37.32 | ChipX86 | yay for moving my weblog |
| 08:37.36 | sbahra | ChipX86: Linux4Arab would like to interview one of the developers of GAIM, would you be interested in stepping up? |
| 08:37.39 | ChipX86 | watch this experiment fail |
| 08:37.45 | ChipX86 | sbahra: sure |
| 08:37.49 | sbahra | Cool |
| 08:37.51 | ChipX86 | Sean'll be pissed though |
| 08:37.59 | ChipX86 | he wants all such things to go through him |
| 08:38.03 | file | I should sleep... mmm yes |
| 08:38.04 | kergoth | 02:35 < zhenlin> Your data is behind 42,341,309 abstractions. Would you like to pull it back to reality? |
| 08:38.07 | kergoth | hehe |
| 08:38.08 | sbahra | heh |
| 08:38.16 | sbahra | ChipX86: It will mainly be general things, I doubt he'll care. |
| 08:38.21 | file | goodnight everyone |
| 08:38.29 | ChipX86 | sbahra: ok |
| 08:39.24 | ChipX86 | hey, you guys are all smart. http://www.chipx86.com/blog/ <-- if you have any ideas for what the Galago system I describe there needs, I'm open for discussion :) |
| 08:39.31 | darth_iBook | lol |
| 08:39.34 | darth_iBook | kim basinger! |
| 08:39.57 | darth_iBook | I think that's kim basinger |
| 08:40.10 | ChipX86 | brb |
| 08:40.38 | captain_pistachi | heh, that page looks familiar |
| 08:40.38 | sbahra | ChipX86: The guy conducting them got some guys from Redhat, founder of Mandrake, etc...he's trying to collect an interview list of all players of opensource (from VIP management-type people to VIP coders, etc...) |
| 08:40.57 | sbahra | ChipX86: I'll have the guy e-mail you then. |
| 08:40.59 | darth_iBook | "so, garth, would you like to have dinner some night?" "oh, I like to have dinner every night" |
| 08:41.53 | captain_pistachi | ChipX86: sounds good so far, needs more detail |
| 08:42.35 | sbahra | Yes, it does. |
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| 08:43.15 | sbahra | At the moment it does pretty static, you should make it a more dynamic system (have IMs or e-mails "register" extensions, etc...) |
| 08:43.23 | sbahra | s/does/is/ |
| 08:43.31 | kergoth | /win 21] |
| 08:43.32 | kergoth | bleh |
| 08:43.48 | ChipX86 | back |
| 08:43.55 | kergoth | lets see, i've drank too much to type with any degree of sanity.. time to get another |
| 08:43.56 | darth_iBook | hehe kergoth |
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| 08:44.02 | ChipX86 | captain_pistachi: yeah, it does need more detail. That's why I asked for input ;) |
| 08:44.07 | kergoth | darth_iBook: :) |
| 08:44.19 | darth_iBook | kergoth: last time I did that I ended up trying to use mgp 321 to play music |
| 08:44.38 | pagefault | hmm |
| 08:44.43 | pagefault | why won't my irc client save it's settings |
| 08:44.51 | ChipX86 | sbahra: the basic protocol can carry anything. It's up to the sender to send it, and up to the receiver to display it |
| 08:44.53 | darth_iBook | oh no! pagefault is gone! |
| 08:45.05 | darth_iBook | erm... not thingy |
| 08:45.10 | darth_iBook | way wrong choice of words there |
| 08:45.11 | ChipX86 | don't look at my thingy |
| 08:45.20 | sbahra | ChipX86: I see, great. |
| 08:45.33 | ChipX86 | Dashboard is really cool |
| 08:45.37 | ChipX86 | but limited |
| 08:45.37 | sbahra | " OK Great :) Thank you .. I am adding him to the addressBook now .. and I will email him in 3-4 days, once I get a reply, or lose hope from one of the people I already sent to :)" |
| 08:45.49 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 08:45.55 | captain_pistachi | mmm, gotta love a good poo |
| 08:46.00 | ChipX86 | thanks for that. |
| 08:46.09 | sbahra | captain_pistachi: rofl |
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| 08:46.36 | pagefault | bleh |
| 08:46.42 | darth_iBook | lol |
| 08:46.45 | darth_iBook | this movie is great |
| 08:47.00 | darth_iBook | and Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey |
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| 08:50.12 | captain_pistachi | hmm neat |
| 08:50.13 | ChipX86 | poor pagefault |
| 08:50.19 | captain_pistachi | el dojo reopens monday |
| 08:50.22 | darth_iBook | guh, this is too cool |
| 08:50.34 | pagefault | hehe |
| 08:50.34 | pagefault | i'm done |
| 08:50.39 | pagefault | exploding |
| 08:50.42 | pagefault | or whatever you call it |
| 08:50.45 | ChipX86 | hmm, do I work on this, or do I play Fire Emblem |
| 08:50.57 | darth_iBook | fire emblem! |
| 08:51.06 | darth_iBook | or watch Wayne's World 2 |
| 08:51.10 | ChipX86 | don't have it |
| 08:51.29 | ChipX86 | I really need to get a better grasp on D-BUS |
| 08:51.30 | darth_iBook | I wish there were a club called comrades in Boulder |
| 08:51.34 | darth_iBook | ChipX86: it's on USA |
| 08:51.37 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 08:51.42 | darth_iBook | ooh Chris Farley |
| 08:51.42 | ChipX86 | my TV is off |
| 08:52.30 | kergoth | mmmmh D-BUS |
| 08:52.40 | ChipX86 | kergoth: got any experience there? |
| 08:53.07 | kergoth | i never knew anything about dbus till i saw it mentioned wrt udev. then did some research and saw how much ass it kicked |
| 08:53.12 | kergoth | heh |
| 08:53.14 | ChipX86 | yeah, it does |
| 08:53.29 | ChipX86 | rml's blog has stuff he's doing with dbus for gnome that's just really cool |
| 08:53.40 | ChipX86 | actually, the apps are gnome, but it'll benefit anything |
| 08:53.48 | darth_iBook | lol |
| 08:53.49 | kergoth | its so simple, and so cool |
| 08:53.54 | darth_iBook | Mike Meyers is so funny |
| 08:53.58 | kergoth | ya gotta love anytning that simple |
| 08:54.06 | ChipX86 | yeah, except I can't find any good examples :) |
| 08:54.17 | kergoth | hehe. examples of what? |
| 08:54.18 | darth_iBook | ooh, there goes Chris Walken |
| 08:54.28 | kergoth | sending, or receiving? |
| 08:54.32 | ChipX86 | both |
| 08:54.41 | ChipX86 | I need to write a client lib and a server |
| 08:56.02 | captain_pistachi | ooh, whr arrives soon ^^ |
| 08:56.06 | kergoth | ah. well, yeah, there arent shit for apps specifically declared as 'exmaples', but there is plenty of code that qualifies. |
| 08:56.17 | darth_iBook | captain_pistachi: yes it do |
| 08:56.20 | darth_iBook | on monday |
| 08:56.24 | ChipX86 | kergoth: got anything I can look at? |
| 08:56.29 | captain_pistachi | yayay |
| 08:56.33 | ChipX86 | as far as names go |
| 08:56.49 | ChipX86 | I really don't need "Learn D-BUS in 24 months!" or anything, just something that uses it |
| 08:56.56 | captain_pistachi | heh |
| 08:56.57 | kergoth | ChipX86: all i used for testing was the udev code for sending, and my own for reception |
| 08:57.03 | ChipX86 | ok |
| 08:57.05 | darth_iBook | hmmm... so KC Jones is in the Traffic miniseries |
| 08:57.13 | darth_iBook | and Luca from ER is in spartacus on USA |
| 08:57.26 | darth_iBook | yay for sex lines! |
| 08:57.47 | darth_iBook | at least 4 of these ads have had 'girl' in the number, and they're different numbers |
| 08:58.42 | kergoth | heh |
| 08:59.14 | darth_iBook | so... with our phone number we could spell 'kill biz' |
| 08:59.37 | captain_pistachi | whee, this new atapi burning system in 2.6 is neat |
| 08:59.59 | kergoth | bored |
| 09:00.19 | darth_iBook | oh... 1.99/min I don't think I can resist something that cheap! =P |
| 09:00.22 | captain_pistachi | kergoth: go shopping for us! |
| 09:01.03 | captain_pistachi | we need (1) new 120G drive =/ |
| 09:01.11 | kergoth | heh, i doubt buying things in TX will help |
| 09:01.33 | captain_pistachi | probably not |
| 09:01.52 | ChipX86 | dbus-send and dbus-monitor are my new friends |
| 09:01.59 | kergoth | hehe |
| 09:02.46 | ChipX86 | yay, API docs |
| 09:03.14 | ChipX86 | I'd do this all in glib, but if I want KDE guys to adopt it too, I can't go that route. *grumble* |
| 09:03.31 | kergoth | not much to it, really. |
| 09:03.36 | kergoth | yay for simple APIs |
| 09:03.40 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 09:03.50 | captain_pistachi | mmm, looks like jungle is going to fit neatly into 7 discs |
| 09:03.56 | ChipX86 | hey, neato. API docs have example code |
| 09:04.32 | darth_iBook | lol, what a cool movie |
| 09:04.44 | pagefault | interesting |
| 09:04.51 | pagefault | linksys releases GPL code for their router firmware |
| 09:13.20 | captain_pistachi | hmm, this song reminds me of the solaris soundtrack |
| 09:16.08 | darth_iBook | heh, looks like both people in this Earthlink commercial are using OS X |
| 09:16.43 | darth_iBook | oooh |
| 09:16.50 | darth_iBook | it's almost time for the Westminster Dog Show |
| 09:17.04 | Cae | what channel? |
| 09:17.09 | darth_iBook | USA |
| 09:17.12 | darth_iBook | not for a month |
| 09:17.16 | Cae | lol |
| 09:17.19 | darth_iBook | it'll be the beginning of Feb. |
| 09:17.23 | Cae | cool |
| 09:17.25 | darth_iBook | but I love that |
| 09:19.30 | darth_iBook | ooh, Drew Barrymore |
| 09:20.03 | darth_iBook | what a babe |
| 09:20.35 | darth_iBook | wish I had Wayne's luck with women ^^ |
| 09:20.48 | ChipX86 | galago-daemon or galagod? |
| 09:20.55 | ChipX86 | (I like how galagod sounds :) |
| 09:21.16 | darth_iBook | oooh! |
| 09:21.28 | darth_iBook | who's that guy |
| 09:21.29 | captain_pistachi | Watch out for all of the exploding monkeys, and be sure not to eat the dancing mushrooms, ADV Films is proud to welcome everyone who was brave enough to venture here to our twisted new website. What’s this site for? We think it’s dedicated to the December 16th DVD release of GAINAX’s zany 13-episode anime series, Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi. At least that’s what the dancing mushrooms told us before they started lighting |
| 09:21.29 | captain_pistachi | everything on fire. |
| 09:21.30 | darth_iBook | I know him |
| 09:21.51 | Cae | hehehe |
| 09:22.08 | captain_pistachi | as jeffm put it, "they let the eva guys make another anime" |
| 09:22.19 | ChipX86 | haah |
| 09:22.20 | ChipX86 | nice |
| 09:22.39 | ChipX86 | I wish I knew if I was fixing that lady's computer tomorro |
| 09:22.39 | ChipX86 | w |
| 09:22.41 | ChipX86 | she's pissed at me |
| 09:23.47 | captain_pistachi | i need to get him to stick the dvds in a machine i have access to for rippage purposes |
| 09:26.46 | darth_iBook | ha! |
| 09:27.02 | darth_iBook | imdb has an actor listed on Simpson's Hit & Run |
| 09:27.35 | pagefault | oops |
| 09:27.39 | pagefault | I am still writing /03 |
| 09:27.43 | pagefault | insted of /04 |
| 09:27.48 | pagefault | annoying |
| 09:28.07 | darth_iBook | wow, Harry Shearer does a lot of voices on the simpsons |
| 09:28.28 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 09:28.33 | captain_pistachi | hah, great web site |
| 09:28.54 | captain_pistachi | It was another typical day in your life, when you happened upon something so bizarre that you just couldn’t turn away. Yes, it was visiting this website. Intrigued by this title, you decided to find out more about the story by venturing to this section. What you were confronted with, however, was the knowledge that unspeakable horrors beyond your wildest imagination lurk inside of this section. The legend portrays that what lies ahea |
| 09:28.54 | captain_pistachi | d is akin to entering the fearsome Temple of Doom, should you choose the wrong path in your attempt to retrace the path of legendary heroes Arumi and Sasshi. Oh well, this is the new millennia, and if you’re not eXtreme enough to handle this challenge, then a rousing game of Solitaire might be more to your liking. |
| 09:29.16 | Cae | hehe |
| 09:29.25 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 09:30.18 | darth_iBook | hehe |
| 09:30.59 | darth_iBook | "...Action Wednesday is now Action Monday!" |
| 09:32.57 | pagefault | whats the date |
| 09:33.06 | ChipX86 | the 3rd |
| 09:33.10 | pagefault | thanks |
| 09:33.11 | ChipX86 | of the 1st |
| 09:33.13 | ChipX86 | of the 2004th |
| 09:33.19 | pagefault | 03/01/04 |
| 09:33.23 | pagefault | oh wait |
| 09:33.25 | pagefault | american is |
| 09:33.29 | pagefault | 01/03/04 |
| 09:33.31 | ChipX86 | pfft, american |
| 09:33.47 | pagefault | DD/MM/YY makes more senswe |
| 09:33.49 | pagefault | -w |
| 09:33.49 | pagefault | IMO |
| 09:33.50 | ChipX86 | I write all dates as day-month-year, regardless of what form it is or if it's for school or what |
| 09:34.06 | pagefault | sense |
| 09:34.26 | Cae | I write month-day-year, but that's for habit |
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| 09:34.39 | ChipX86 | I'll write, like, 03-January-2004 |
| 09:34.54 | ChipX86 | people hate it. They have no idea it's how the rest of the world does it |
| 09:35.41 | darth_iBook | ChipX86: I don't think Americans are aware of the fact that: a) there is a 'rest of the world' and b) they've been around a lot longer than the we have |
| 09:35.49 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 09:37.29 | darth_iBook | mmmm... Jimmi Hendrix, Hey Joe |
| 09:37.33 | darth_iBook | what a damn cool song |
| 09:37.41 | captain_pistachi | its like when americans say that half-hour time zones are stupid |
| 09:37.50 | captain_pistachi | nevermind that there are 1.5 billion people who disagree |
| 09:37.56 | darth_iBook | hehe |
| 09:39.29 | darth_iBook | this movie is great |
| 09:40.45 | darth_iBook | hell yeah! |
| 09:40.48 | ninjer_pistachio | hooray for the sink filling up |
| 09:40.49 | darth_iBook | he's doing the Graduate now! |
| 09:42.30 | darth_iBook | NOOOOOOO |
| 09:42.32 | darth_iBook | commercial! |
| 09:43.47 | darth_iBook | jesus |
| 09:44.14 | darth_iBook | itt tech is now advertising using a guy who works on equipment to help the military build weapons |
| 09:44.21 | darth_iBook | what a constructive use of a degree |
| 09:45.01 | darth_iBook | anyone that goes to itt tech due to that commercial needs to be beaten, shot, drawn and quartered and numerous other things I can't think of at the moment |
| 09:45.22 | ChipX86 | made to watch Barny |
| 09:45.25 | ChipX86 | or Barney |
| 09:45.32 | darth_iBook | that'd be good |
| 09:45.43 | darth_iBook | barney, teletubbies and pokeman simultaneously |
| 09:46.11 | darth_iBook | while being stabbed with salt covered needles |
| 09:46.13 | ChipX86 | I must be stupid if I can't figure this stuff out |
| 09:46.21 | darth_iBook | sitting in lemon juice |
| 09:46.25 | pagefault | iBox? |
| 09:46.29 | pagefault | set top apple computer |
| 09:46.30 | pagefault | hmm |
| 09:46.30 | darth_iBook | arg it makes me so mad that they did that |
| 09:46.40 | ChipX86 | pagefault: hmm? |
| 09:46.44 | pagefault | http://www.macosx.com/content/article.php?cid=55 |
| 09:47.05 | ChipX86 | scary |
| 09:47.09 | pagefault | well |
| 09:47.15 | pagefault | if it supports stuff like wireless |
| 09:47.15 | pagefault | and etc |
| 09:47.19 | pagefault | it could sell extremely well |
| 09:48.08 | darth_iBook | pagefault: why does it need to support wireless? |
| 09:48.16 | pagefault | to show photos |
| 09:48.16 | pagefault | and things |
| 09:48.20 | pagefault | i'd use it for media |
| 09:48.23 | ChipX86 | could be neat |
| 09:48.28 | darth_iBook | but, what's wrong with running a cable? |
| 09:48.35 | ChipX86 | walk in with a PDA, view the pics on it |
| 09:48.37 | pagefault | more convienent |
| 09:48.49 | pagefault | I can pick it up and move it anywhere |
| 09:49.08 | darth_iBook | we ran a cable to wasabi, hasn't been a problem |
| 09:49.13 | pagefault | well |
| 09:49.22 | pagefault | the floors are oak and stuff |
| 09:49.28 | pagefault | I don't wanna drill through them and stuff |
| 09:49.31 | ChipX86 | message = dbus_message_new ("org.freedesktop.ThreadTest", NULL); |
| 09:49.36 | ChipX86 | that won't work. dbus_message_new wants an int :/ |
| 09:50.31 | darth_iBook | yay it's the cover of Mrs. Robinson |
| 09:50.34 | darth_iBook | love this cover |
| 09:51.38 | ChipX86 | HAL makes for a really good dbus example |
| 09:57.46 | MysticOne | argh, I hate my fucking dogs |
| 10:00.01 | ninjer_pistachio | naptime, finally |
| 10:02.02 | darth_iBook | ah well |
| 10:02.04 | darth_iBook | bed time |
| 10:34.02 | pagefault | hmm |
| 10:34.06 | pagefault | boring |
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| 10:45.20 | pagefault | http://www.mini-itx.com/projects/windowsxpbox/ |
| 10:45.24 | pagefault | some people have too much time on their hands |
| 10:51.58 | ChipX86 | 3:00?! |
| 10:52.09 | pagefault | ? |
| 10:52.16 | ChipX86 | it's late :/ |
| 10:52.22 | pagefault | it's 6 am almost here |
| 10:52.29 | ChipX86 | and I don't feel like sleeping at all.. but that client may call tomorrow |
| 10:53.36 | ChipX86 | screw it. If that happens, I'll just get up, get ready, get caffeine, get over there |
| 10:54.37 | pagefault | yeah |
| 10:54.38 | pagefault | thats the spirit |
| 11:02.16 | ChipX86 | so what are you up to tonight? |
| 11:03.07 | pagefault | coding |
| 11:04.39 | Cae | reading |
| 11:04.44 | Cae | I'm horribly amused |
| 11:04.47 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 11:04.52 | ChipX86 | did he ever go online? |
| 11:04.58 | Cae | nope |
| 11:05.05 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 11:05.13 | ChipX86 | chew him out tomorrow |
| 11:05.23 | Cae | if he's not fine, I'm going to kill him. if he is fine, I'm going to kill him. :) |
| 11:05.37 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 11:07.33 | ChipX86 | I now realize why I was having so much trouble with dbus |
| 11:07.43 | ChipX86 | I tried to make it much harder than it was |
| 11:11.28 | Cae | mkay, going offline, though I'll stay up a bit longer |
| 11:11.38 | Cae | g'night all, and sleep well. |
| 11:12.19 | ChipX86 | g'night |
| 11:16.12 | pagefault | whats the best place to get music these days |
| 11:19.12 | ChipX86 | dunno |
| 15:31.04 | gonkulator | file: I have a tracking number for you |
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| 15:31.46 | gonkulator | hehehe |
| 15:31.47 | gonkulator | indeed |
| 15:31.52 | gonkulator | file: the number is 1Z92X7X80300256941 |
| 15:32.32 | gonkulator | cool, my memory will be here on wednesday |
| 15:38.05 | gonkulator | TD: anyway, I got my new iBook for free |
| 15:38.14 | TD | gonkulator: for free? |
| 15:38.16 | TD | how'd you wangle that |
| 15:38.20 | gonkulator | :-D |
| 15:38.29 | gonkulator | the one I had was under warantee, and died too many times |
| 15:38.34 | TD | hah. |
| 15:38.37 | gonkulator | so they fixed me up with a new one |
| 15:38.40 | TD | so is the new one better than the old one? |
| 15:38.46 | gonkulator | yeah |
| 15:38.57 | gonkulator | the old one was 800 mHz G3 combo drive model |
| 15:39.06 | gonkulator | this one is the 800 mHz G4 combo drive model :) |
| 15:39.46 | gonkulator | so its got 802.11g and a faster burner and DDR memory and a better video card |
| 15:39.57 | gonkulator | Radeon 7500 vs Radeon 9200 |
| 15:41.09 | TD | lol |
| 15:41.11 | TD | nice. |
| 15:41.17 | TD | still, you had to pay for the original... |
| 15:41.24 | TD | i need to get a laptop from somewhere for wineconf |
| 15:41.30 | TD | not sure wher though. rental is expensive |
| 15:41.38 | gonkulator | yeah, and the original was constantly dying |
| 15:43.19 | TD | not so great. well, as long as the new one is good for you :) |
| 15:43.25 | TD | what are you running on it? |
| 15:44.02 | gonkulator | OS X 10.3 |
| 15:44.14 | gonkulator | I might put gentoo on it later |
| 15:44.18 | TD | on an 800mhz ibook? |
| 15:44.22 | TD | how does that run? |
| 15:44.44 | gonkulator | well, scanline and darth_mall and myself have had gentoo on a 500 mHz iBook |
| 15:45.20 | TD | crazy :) still, i have an allergy to compiling stuff so that's just me... |
| 15:45.56 | gonkulator | hehehe |
| 15:46.19 | TD | heh. we run it on the new theoretic.com box |
| 15:46.31 | TD | it's ok. though i kind of expected portage to do file queries out of the box. |
| 15:46.38 | TD | didn't realise it'd need an extra package. fortunately #gentoo is pretty goo |
| 15:46.48 | gonkulator | heh |
| 15:47.00 | gonkulator | #gentoo has always been a waste of time for me |
| 15:47.34 | gonkulator | but there are enough good gentoo users in here that I have been fairly well informed when I have had issues |
| 15:47.43 | TD | good stuff |
| 15:48.17 | gonkulator | hmm... |
| 15:48.19 | gonkulator | its saturday |
| 15:48.55 | TD | indeed |
| 15:48.57 | TD | jobs day :( |
| 15:49.16 | gonkulator | not until tuesday |
| 15:49.24 | gonkulator | thats when Jobs gives his talk |
| 15:49.51 | gonkulator | we're gonna see new iPods! |
| 15:50.08 | TD | lol |
| 15:50.09 | gonkulator | and faster PowerMac G5s |
| 15:50.12 | TD | i mean different kind of jobs |
| 15:50.17 | gonkulator | and maybe G5 powerbooks |
| 15:50.19 | gonkulator | oh |
| 15:50.31 | TD | as in, household chores :) |
| 15:50.40 | gonkulator | oh |
| 15:50.49 | TD | besides, i can't really justify buying a laptop at all right now, an expensive one is right out |
| 15:51.03 | gonkulator | yeah |
| 15:51.10 | gonkulator | if I had to spend money, I wouldn't buy apple |
| 16:35.35 | MysticOne | TD: btw, if you ever decide to mirror gentoo's servers, don't tell #gentoo |
| 16:36.25 | TD | i'm not going to mirror gentoos servers :) |
| 16:36.35 | MysticOne | just if you do, don't tell them |
| 16:36.44 | MysticOne | they'll kick you out of the channel and say you're performing a denial of service attack :) |
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| 18:02.20 | gonkulator | hi zak_home |
| 18:02.40 | zak_home | hi gonkulator. my finger hurts. |
| 18:03.06 | gonkulator | why does your finger hurt? |
| 18:03.38 | gonkulator | and why did the news guy just use the phrase "this just keeps getting curiouser and curiouser" |
| 18:04.21 | zak_home | heh. typical jen story. grating cheese. missed. ouch. |
| 18:04.31 | gonkulator | ouch is right |
| 18:05.16 | gonkulator | zak_home: it looks like Kendra is going to try and throw a party type thing tonight at her place in Louisville |
| 18:06.13 | zak_home | hmm. i have to go to the airport to pick up rich, but that sounds like fun |
| 18:06.23 | gonkulator | ah, that answers my question too |
| 18:06.36 | gonkulator | also |
| 18:06.40 | gonkulator | I got a new iBook yesterday |
| 18:07.16 | gonkulator | for free ^^ |
| 18:07.28 | zak_home | i will call before i come, because rich doesn't come in until 916, and we were supposed to do something with hs friends of mine, but hanging out with kendra sounds like 10 times more fun. |
| 18:07.52 | gonkulator | this might be Kendra's High School friends too |
| 18:08.29 | gonkulator | her AIM away message was the first I saw of it |
| 18:08.40 | gonkulator | cause I think I fell asleep before she got back yesterday |
| 18:20.23 | zak_home | hehe |
| 18:21.07 | gonkulator | the New Year's LAN party messed me up |
| 18:21.11 | zak_home | heh |
| 18:21.27 | zak_home | kurt wants to do have a lan party at our place on the 7th |
| 18:21.33 | zak_home | can that happen? |
| 18:21.43 | gonkulator | I don't see why not |
| 18:21.55 | gonkulator | I have a computer, and am free |
| 18:21.59 | zak_home | cool |
| 18:24.15 | gonkulator | and since Kurt has an apple too, I'll be able to just give him the games |
| 18:24.36 | gonkulator | oooh, thats also the day my iBook's memory upgrade comes in |
| 18:37.12 | Keyser[zzz] | anyone see 'Paycheck'? |
| 18:37.26 | KeyserSoze | or, any good movies that are out, for that matter? |
| 18:38.19 | gonkulator | hey KeyserSoze |
| 18:38.28 | KeyserSoze | howdy |
| 18:38.39 | gonkulator | KeyserSoze: I have heard that paycheck is awful, but I might have heard wrong |
| 18:38.42 | gonkulator | what is it about? |
| 18:38.55 | KeyserSoze | it's based on a novel of the same name by Philip K Dick |
| 18:39.03 | KeyserSoze | (good Sci Fi writer) |
| 18:39.22 | KeyserSoze | a guy (unfortunately Ben Affleck :(), |
| 18:39.42 | gonkulator | oh, yeah |
| 18:39.50 | KeyserSoze | a guy, has his memories erased for some reason, and he doesn't know why |
| 18:39.58 | KeyserSoze | but he left himself clues to figure it out |
| 18:40.11 | gonkulator | thats got bad reviews from the critic on TV |
| 18:40.16 | KeyserSoze | and, he's probably being followed by "them" for some nefarious purpose |
| 18:40.33 | KeyserSoze | but, Uma Thurmon! |
| 18:40.33 | gonkulator | and that critic also had bad things to say about cheaper by the dozen |
| 18:40.45 | gonkulator | which made his credibility go through the roof IMHO |
| 18:41.24 | KeyserSoze | wait. cheaper by the dozen? isn't that with Steve Martin and Ashton Kutchcjerer? (sp) |
| 18:41.53 | KeyserSoze | i mean, c'mon, he didn't really go out on a limb saying that that one sucked. |
| 18:42.29 | gonkulator | yeah |
| 18:42.30 | gonkulator | but still |
| 18:46.26 | ninjer_pistachio | mmmm |
| 18:46.28 | ninjer_pistachio | warm fuzzy bed |
| 18:46.31 | ninjer_pistachio | OF WRATH! |
| 18:47.17 | hardwire | wtf |
| 18:48.23 | gonkulator | and now, I pray my new iBook doesn't dead itself |
| 18:49.36 | zak_home | ninjer_pistachio: warm fuzzy bed of warth? been keeping grapes and skinned cats in your bed again? |
| 18:50.14 | zak_home | KeyserSoze: i saw paycheck |
| 18:50.54 | gonkulator | hmm... |
| 18:51.56 | ninjer_pistachio | gonkulator: you know it will |
| 18:52.13 | gonkulator | ninjer_pistachio: yeah, I know |
| 18:52.36 | gonkulator | ninjer_pistachio: I just want to delay the inevitable as long as possible |
| 18:52.48 | gonkulator | or have it break enough that they give me whatever is top of the line a year from now ;) |
| 18:52.56 | gonkulator | anyway, software update is done |
| 18:52.57 | gonkulator | bbiab |
| 18:53.22 | ninjer_pistachio | woobdeedoo |
| 18:56.33 | gonkulator | well, that was only a little bit scary |
| 18:56.50 | file | oh? |
| 18:57.33 | gonkulator | it spent a minute or three looking for a network boot disk |
| 18:58.24 | zak_home | and points out they have those awesome devil ducks all over the place. |
| 18:58.28 | gonkulator | a duck decoy seems kinda nifty, and dan would prolly like it some how |
| 18:58.38 | zak_home | hehe |
| 18:59.26 | ninjer_pistachio | scanline needs to wake up so he can go sell the rest of his soul to CompUSA :P |
| 19:00.00 | zak_home | so navi is dead? |
| 19:00.08 | ninjer_pistachio | not necessarily |
| 19:00.14 | zak_home | and scanline's soul will fix it? |
| 19:00.28 | ninjer_pistachio | we should be able to recover at least most of it, so long as it is what we think it is |
| 19:01.08 | gonkulator | ninjer_pistachio: what other issues have presented themselves? |
| 19:01.17 | gonkulator | later zak_home |
| 19:01.24 | ninjer_pistachio | and if not, its not a disaster, as we managed to get music & a few vital other things backed up |
| 19:01.34 | gonkulator | hi zak_home :) |
| 19:01.34 | ninjer_pistachio | gonkulator: its looking very much like we had a multiple disk failure |
| 19:01.36 | zak_home | but i am not gone. yet. just soon |
| 19:01.47 | zak_home | ick. |
| 19:01.50 | gonkulator | ninjer_pistachio: thats... interesting |
| 19:01.50 | ninjer_pistachio | however, one of the failed disks isn't quite too failed to dupe it, hopefully |
| 19:01.58 | gonkulator | ah |
| 19:02.07 | ninjer_pistachio | gonkulator: i think what happened was that one disk failed a while ago, and we just didn't notice |
| 19:02.57 | gonkulator | nod |
| 19:03.11 | hardwire | taco |
| 19:03.13 | ninjer_pistachio | but its ominious that its the seagates :P |
| 19:03.29 | gonkulator | they were both seagates? |
| 19:03.38 | ninjer_pistachio | looks like it =/ |
| 19:04.45 | zak_home | gonkulator: despite her own advertisment, kendra has failed to answer her phone. |
| 19:04.48 | ninjer_pistachio | gonkulator: if you want to get navi a gift, it'd be nice to have a disk or two on hand so we don't have to pay through the nose at compusa :) |
| 19:04.56 | gonkulator | ninjer_pistachio: thats what I was thinking |
| 19:05.06 | zak_home | nose. |
| 19:05.06 | gonkulator | zak_home: I wasn't planning on calling Kendra until 2-3ish |
| 19:05.08 | zak_home | ouch. |
| 19:05.36 | ninjer_pistachio | hmm, there's a samsung for $84 |
| 19:05.38 | gonkulator | ninjer_pistachio: any requirements on the disks? |
| 19:05.48 | zak_home | bye. |
| 19:05.51 | gonkulator | zak_home: noooo |
| 19:05.52 | gonkulator | later zak_home |
| 19:05.57 | ninjer_pistachio | gonkulator: 120G, preferably not IBM or seagate =P |
| 19:06.08 | ninjer_pistachio | looks like also a WD for $84 |
| 19:06.11 | gonkulator | ninjer_pistachio: 5400 RPM ok :) |
| 19:06.19 | gonkulator | or do you need 7200 RPM disks |
| 19:06.20 | ninjer_pistachio | 5400 is fine |
| 19:06.30 | gonkulator | mkay |
| 19:06.56 | gonkulator | when I get my budget to upgrade my machines here at home, I'll get a couple (maybe like three) disks for navi |
| 19:07.23 | ninjer_pistachio | mmmmm |
| 19:07.41 | ninjer_pistachio | damnit, i forgot to tack -v -v onto this cdrecord command line |
| 19:08.04 | gonkulator | wasn't there a warrantee type thing on those disks? |
| 19:08.09 | ninjer_pistachio | 30 days |
| 19:09.20 | gonkulator | when I get them, I'll try and see to it that there is a warantee attached |
| 19:09.33 | ninjer_pistachio | yay, ebay spam |
| 19:10.06 | gonkulator | wow, my battery monitor is really confused |
| 19:11.48 | ninjer_pistachio | wow, these are filthy |
| 19:17.49 | gonkulator | these are pretty sexy |
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| 19:22.17 | ninjer_pistachio | hiya lurgy|elsewhere |
| 19:22.24 | gonkulator | howdy lurgy|elsewhere |
| 19:23.14 | gonkulator | wow, my battery monitor is *really* confused now |
| 19:23.28 | gonkulator | the percept keeps going down, and the expected time to live keeps going up |
| 19:23.52 | merlin262 | lol |
| 19:24.04 | gonkulator | :-D |
| 19:24.15 | gonkulator | lurgy|elsewhere: I was thinking of something that would be a neat gift for you |
| 19:24.22 | gonkulator | lurgy|elsewhere: how would you like to get a decoy duck! |
| 19:24.35 | lurgy|elsewhere | hehe |
| 19:24.44 | lurgy|elsewhere | mornin ninjer_pistachio an' gonkulator |
| 19:29.23 | lurgy|elsewhere | ...since LaTeX is oh-so well-adapted to that sort of thing? ;) |
| 19:29.37 | ninjer_pistachio | well - mostly its just a few simple code changes |
| 19:29.46 | ninjer_pistachio | but i'm too distracted with navi :P |
| 19:33.43 | ninjer_pistachio | scanline: morning, sunshine! |
| 19:34.48 | ninjer_pistachio | http://www.abenobashidvd.com/doodles/doodles.php |
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| 19:36.17 | *** part/#tacobeam milon (~milon@gw.iromez.cz) |
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| 19:42.44 | gonkulator | howdy darth_iBook |
| 19:43.13 | scanline | shutting down navi soon to pull another disk and run badblocks on it |
| 19:43.34 | darth_iBook | =( |
| 19:44.41 | darth_iBook | scanline: do you know if I got anything from Discover in the mail yesterday? |
| 19:45.00 | darth_iBook | or today for that matter, although I don't expect the mailman to have been by yet |
| 19:55.32 | gonkulator | :-D |
| 19:55.36 | darth_iBook | ;) |
| 19:55.43 | darth_iBook | hmm... I should brush my teeth |
| 19:55.54 | darth_iBook | brb |
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| 19:58.14 | *** join/#tacobeam scanline (~micah@navi.cs.colorado.edu) |
| 19:59.49 | *** join/#tacobeam CIA-4 (~CIA-4@navi.cs.colorado.edu) |
| 20:01.13 | darth_iBook | and so they all return |
| 20:01.38 | gonkulator | yay |
| 20:02.04 | gonkulator | and welcomes him |
| 20:02.31 | darth_iBook | well.... nm |
| 20:02.43 | darth_iBook | I guess what I really want to do is continue the game of zelda I started yesterday |
| 20:02.57 | darth_iBook | and I can't do that w/o scanline's gamecube and memory card |
| 20:15.00 | *** join/#tacobeam ogbert (~ogbert@navi.cs.colorado.edu) |
| 20:15.13 | gonkulator | ogbert: hello, who are you? |
| 20:15.52 | ogbert | a science experiment |
| 20:15.54 | ninjer_pistachio | hi dan! |
| 20:16.00 | gonkulator | oh no! :) |
| 20:16.13 | gonkulator | not a science experiment |
| 20:16.43 | ogbert | aha, it's a lot easier to IRC from telnet if you put "PRIVMSG #tacobeam :" in your paste buffer |
| 20:16.58 | ogbert | this is just micah testing some nickserv stuff from telnet for CIA |
| 20:16.59 | darth_iBook | lol |
| 20:17.04 | gonkulator | ah, hi ogbert |
| 20:17.52 | scanline | aha |
| 20:19.43 | gonkulator | wow |
| 20:19.59 | darth_iBook | scanline ninjer_pistachio: what's the best way to transfer from a video tape to a digital format? |
| 20:20.02 | gonkulator | my battery monitor has been saying 2 minutes of battery left for the last twenty minutes |
| 20:20.08 | darth_iBook | mom wants to turn our home movies digital-like |
| 20:20.36 | scanline | darth_iBook: VCR and a TV tuner card probably |
| 20:20.48 | darth_iBook | k, so just a TV tuner |
| 20:21.01 | scanline | or one of those USB/firewire video capture dongles |
| 20:21.06 | scanline | but I'm not sure how well those work |
| 20:21.20 | gonkulator | Dan Ross had good things to say about them |
| 20:21.53 | darth_iBook | but I'm not quite sure what that is or why it's better than just a tv tuner card |
| 20:22.09 | scanline | darth_iBook: they don't require you to open the computer :) |
| 20:22.17 | darth_iBook | heh |
| 20:22.26 | ninjer_pistachio | darth_iBook: well, if we ever get the new video editing box at work, you could do it there |
| 20:22.40 | darth_iBook | ninjer_pistachio: but I'd rather not have to do anything |
| 20:22.47 | ninjer_pistachio | since we'd have a nice composite/svid->dv bridge =) |
| 20:22.47 | scanline | yay, now CIA-1 through CIA-5 are registered nicks |
| 20:23.30 | darth_iBook | ooh, that reminds me |
| 20:23.53 | darth_iBook | ninjer_pistachio: have you heard of anything better than s-video for connecting something like a DVD player to a TV |
| 20:24.21 | ninjer_pistachio | not really |
| 20:24.34 | ninjer_pistachio | i suppose the really high-end ones can do RGB |
| 20:24.57 | darth_iBook | cuz there was this asshole salesman at soundtrack that scoffed when I said we used an svideo connection with our DVD player but he never told me what would be better |
| 20:25.25 | ninjer_pistachio | heh |
| 20:25.44 | darth_iBook | and I suspect that I'd thrown him, because he didn't expect me to say that |
| 20:26.06 | darth_iBook | he probably expected me to say something like, "I dunno, we use those red white and yellow cable things" |
| 20:26.11 | ninjer_pistachio | wow, debian feels crufty after using gentoo |
| 20:26.23 | gonkulator | ROFLMAO |
| 20:26.44 | gonkulator | ok, a minute ago, my battery meter said 1% and 2 minutes |
| 20:26.45 | merlin262 | darth_iBook: he's an idiot, like most salesman, ignore him. :) |
| 20:26.50 | gonkulator | now it says 0% and 44 minutes |
| 20:27.14 | gonkulator | and I just got the second "you're on reserve power" message |
| 20:27.39 | darth_iBook | merlin262: that's what I suspected, but I thought I'd ask in case something new had come out |
| 20:27.57 | gonkulator | ok, there it went |
| 20:29.05 | ninjer_pistachio | hmm, i wonder if i have any chili |
| 20:32.21 | scanline | damn freenode's nick registration frequency limit |
| 20:35.00 | scanline | up to CIA-18... |
| 20:35.02 | ninjer_pistachio | damn debian freedom hippies |
| 20:35.05 | TD | yikes! |
| 20:35.09 | TD | how many channels is each bot in? |
| 20:35.15 | scanline | no |
| 20:35.22 | scanline | only CIA-1 through CIA-5 are online |
| 20:35.24 | scanline | I'm registering nicks :) |
| 20:35.46 | TD | heh |
| 20:35.48 | ninjer_pistachio | scanline: you know what would be fantastic? |
| 20:35.54 | TD | why though? future investment? |
| 20:35.59 | scanline | there, registered up to CIA-20.. should be enough |
| 20:36.12 | scanline | TD: well, it would suck if someone else registered them first and then CIA ended up needing them |
| 20:36.36 | scanline | and I wanted to at least register the ones we're using so I can have CIA kick off other folks trying to steal its nicks |
| 20:36.39 | TD | yeah, but we could probably just ask lilo to kick them off. nobody would register a nick like CIA-8 for themselves... |
| 20:36.45 | TD | ah, yeah, good point |
| 20:36.51 | TD | though that might be itself sometimes... |
| 20:36.59 | TD | btw, what is ABW-1? |
| 20:37.02 | ChipX86 | which would be entertaining, kind of |
| 20:37.08 | scanline | I think that's something the pld folks are running |
| 20:37.27 | TD | that's what i guessed too. oh well. whatever |
| 20:37.34 | scanline | just temporarily while CIA's off and on |
| 20:38.21 | scanline | wow... |
| 20:38.24 | scanline | Subject: CueCrap |
| 20:38.29 | scanline | Hi, |
| 20:38.29 | scanline | I'm curious as to why the database doesn't seem to work on your sourceforge |
| 20:38.29 | scanline | project, and whether there's a "real" source of barcode info such as the |
| 20:38.29 | scanline | UCC/Barpoint -- neither of which I can seem to find databases at (but |
| 20:38.30 | scanline | remember reading of both having them free for consumers). |
| 20:40.18 | gonkulator | heh |
| 20:41.23 | scanline | :) |
| 20:41.26 | scanline | that's a good idea... |
| 20:41.30 | scanline | someone should make coffee! |
| 20:42.47 | scanline | arr |
| 20:42.48 | scanline | that smells good |
| 20:46.07 | ninjer_pistachio | so i think i've determined the biggest flaw with glasses |
| 20:46.13 | ninjer_pistachio | they get all steamed up while eating hot food :P |
| 20:51.15 | ninjer_pistachio | wow, cudenver runs a distfiles mirror now |
| 20:51.31 | gonkulator | yep |
| 20:51.35 | gonkulator | they're my mirror at work |
| 20:56.10 | scanline | coffee! |
| 21:00.52 | gonkulator | well, assuming that this laptop doesn't die any time soon, its a pretty cool computer |
| 21:04.12 | darth_iBook | gonkulator: time to gentoo-ify |
| 21:04.23 | darth_iBook | ^^ |
| 21:04.57 | gonkulator | hmm... |
| 21:05.12 | darth_iBook | gonkulator: you should show them what a real OS should be like |
| 21:05.28 | darth_iBook | and if it'll make them feel better you can get an OS X theme ^^ |
| 21:06.21 | gonkulator | the thing is, StepMania works in OS X well enough |
| 21:06.21 | darth_iBook | *atleast* get rid of that silly tcsh |
| 21:06.26 | gonkulator | oh yeah |
| 21:06.33 | ninjer_pistachio | darth_iBook: they switched to bash in 10.3 |
| 21:06.41 | darth_iBook | bout goddamn time |
| 21:07.34 | gonkulator | hmm... |
| 21:07.52 | darth_iBook | coffee's probably ready about now... |
| 21:07.53 | darth_iBook | brb |
| 21:08.12 | ninjer_pistachio | same here :) |
| 21:08.23 | gonkulator | but OS X works for what I do |
| 21:08.39 | gonkulator | and gives me cool toys, like iTunes ^^ |
| 21:08.42 | sbahra | My legs are killing me |
| 21:11.00 | gonkulator | oh damn |
| 21:11.04 | gonkulator | now I have no excuse |
| 21:11.04 | gonkulator | http://www.geekounet.org/powerbook/ibookg4.html |
| 21:11.09 | darth_iBook | man, I just love how much faith my mom has in me =P |
| 21:12.09 | gonkulator | well, I'll upload the mp3s from my ITMS purchases fairly soon |
| 21:12.09 | TD | scanline: where'd the instructions for adding projects go? :) |
| 21:12.17 | TD | scanline: i want andersca to add freedesktop.org stuff |
| 21:12.27 | darth_iBook | gonkulator: not more spice girls, I hope =P |
| 21:12.43 | gonkulator | darth_iBook: no, Kitaro |
| 21:13.00 | darth_iBook | damn straight not spice grils |
| 21:13.04 | scanline | TD: the instructions aren't up because there currently isn't any way to do it over the web or email |
| 21:13.05 | darth_iBook | erm.. girls |
| 21:13.14 | scanline | TD: the client scripts are at http://cia.navi.cx/clients though |
| 21:13.32 | TD | you have to add projects explicitly now? |
| 21:13.43 | TD | oh, for just #commits traffic does it matter? |
| 21:14.45 | scanline | TD: oh, doesn't matter for #commits. I thought you meant adding new channels |
| 21:15.00 | darth_iBook | hmmm... might go to Circuit City today and look at some laptops |
| 21:15.12 | ninjer_pistachio | wheeeeeeee |
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| 21:15.51 | gonkulator | hmm... |
| 21:15.58 | gonkulator | stuff doesn't yet work on the iBook G4 |
| 21:16.54 | gonkulator | wb KeyserSoze |
| 21:18.01 | darth_iBook | gonkulator: that's such an informative description =P |
| 21:18.24 | darth_iBook | hehe |
| 21:18.38 | darth_iBook | ninjer_pistachio: you shoulda spilled some on scanline's pants, like I did |
| 21:19.50 | darth_iBook | gonkulator: you're not allowed |
| 21:20.01 | darth_iBook | only scanline, and only if he and I are playing pool on the same team |
| 21:20.11 | gonkulator | ok |
| 21:20.15 | darth_iBook | and only at Jai's house |
| 21:20.21 | gonkulator | I guess that means I'm off the team again |
| 21:20.25 | gonkulator | :-D |
| 21:20.27 | darth_iBook | see, there are rules for this kind of thing, protocols to be followed ^^ |
| 21:20.37 | darth_iBook | gonkulator: you've been off the team for missing the animation show |
| 21:20.39 | darth_iBook | you and morgan both |
| 21:20.48 | gonkulator | how do I get back on the team |
| 21:21.00 | darth_iBook | that's unprecidented |
| 21:21.30 | gonkulator | hmm... |
| 21:21.41 | gonkulator | so you're saying there is a chance :) |
| 21:24.39 | gonkulator | well, I started out with orange |
| 21:24.53 | gonkulator | then went to green |
| 21:25.18 | TD | http://linuxtodo.chipx86.com/ |
| 21:25.22 | TD | suggestions welcome. requested, even |
| 21:28.45 | *** join/#tacobeam zak_home (INSfunny@0-1pool22-82.nas8.thornton1.co.us.da.qwest.net) |
| 21:29.18 | ninjer_pistachio | hiya zak_home |
| 21:29.28 | gonkulator | howdy zak_home |
| 21:29.31 | zak_home | hiya ninjer_pistachio |
| 21:29.46 | darth_iBook | ooh it's zak_home |
| 21:29.55 | darth_iBook | zak_home: you should get back to boulder and see if you have High Fidelity |
| 21:30.04 | ninjer_pistachio | hmm, tonight |
| 21:30.05 | darth_iBook | cuz travis doesn't, he says ^^ |
| 21:30.33 | gonkulator | too long since we have done tag |
| 21:30.45 | gonkulator | or, since I have participated |
| 21:30.52 | darth_iBook | bbl |
| 21:31.14 | ninjer_pistachio | we could do tag, followed by all the haibane scanline & zak haven't seen =D |
| 21:31.29 | *** topic/#tacobeam by zak_home -> Hello, Navi. || TAG! we should play tonight (1/3/2004) |
| 21:32.18 | zak_home | OOO! |
| 21:32.26 | sbahra | Is there any work being done so Linux can run NDIS drivers? |
| 21:32.29 | zak_home | is dan better and back? |
| 21:32.49 | gonkulator | back, not yet |
| 21:32.56 | gonkulator | better... yes |
| 21:33.00 | gonkulator | good enough... I dunno :) |
| 21:33.46 | ninjer_pistachio | zak_home: well, i know he's planning to move back tonight |
| 21:33.46 | file | sbahra: driverloader and ndiswrapper |
| 21:33.54 | file | driverloader = pay, ndiswrapper= free |
| 21:34.09 | ninjer_pistachio | but i dunno if he's recovered enough for physical exertion beyond video gaming |
| 21:34.26 | zak_home | hmm |
| 21:34.26 | sbahra | file: How does it work? How does it compare to the work being done in FreeBSD (complete kernel-space emulation)? |
| 21:34.40 | file | sbahra: uses wine I believe |
| 21:34.46 | CIA-4 | 03micah r1489 trunk/cia/BUGS: Add a handful of formatter and XML items to BUGS |
| 21:34.49 | file | sbahra: that's all I know |
| 21:35.19 | TD | nah, don't think so |
| 21:35.26 | TD | wine doesn't implement kernel apis,for starters |
| 21:35.31 | TD | i think it does exactly what it says on the tin - wraps NDIS |
| 21:35.49 | file | somebody told me it was a modified wine... I think it was somebody at Xandros Corporation |
| 21:36.01 | zak_home | is scanline awake yet? |
| 21:36.07 | sbahra | TD: Completely through userspace (ex: trivial daemon interaction for device node, etc...) or how...? |
| 21:36.09 | gonkulator | zak_home: yes |
| 21:36.23 | file | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:36.24 | file | A userspace-utility to pass a windows-driver file and settings to the kernel module, analog to insmod for linux modules. |
| 21:36.25 | zak_home | (the CIA-4 thing made me wonder) |
| 21:36.29 | sbahra | TD: In FreeBSD the NDIS wrappers themselves are all provided in kernel space (as well as other common DDK routines used by Windows drivers). |
| 21:36.30 | zak_home | HIYA scanline |
| 21:36.54 | CIA-4 | 03micah r1490 trunk/cia/LibCIA/Formatters.py: Strip leading and trailing whitespace from the log message in Formatters.CommitFormatter |
| 21:37.05 | scanline | hiya zak_home |
| 21:37.24 | TD | file: oh the dll loader is probably ours |
| 21:37.33 | zak_home | scanline: you interested in tag? or just fixing stuff? |
| 21:38.16 | scanline | hmm, could be |
| 21:38.50 | scanline | when's this? |
| 21:39.15 | zak_home | late tonight |
| 21:41.01 | ninjer_pistachio | scanline: pat suggested the term "distributed piracy" |
| 21:41.13 | scanline | hehe |
| 21:42.08 | gonkulator | oh my |
| 21:42.16 | gonkulator | if its that late, I won't be able to come |
| 21:43.19 | zak_home | or he lands then |
| 21:43.59 | zak_home | which means leaving the airport at 10 pm minimum...prolly later |
| 21:44.30 | ninjer_pistachio | that sucks :( |
| 21:44.56 | zak_home | indeed |
| 21:46.35 | ninjer_pistachio | hmm, is it time to watch a jungle? |
| 21:46.37 | ninjer_pistachio | i think it is |
| 21:47.41 | file | gonkulator: PSST, I wrote a perl script to track your iBook's RAM ;) |
| 21:47.51 | gonkulator | file: scary ^^ |
| 21:50.30 | ninjer_pistachio | wow, this is scaruy |
| 21:51.50 | zak_home | ? |
| 21:51.57 | ninjer_pistachio | new jungle series |
| 21:52.18 | ninjer_pistachio | heh |
| 21:57.35 | ninjer_pistachio | hehehe |
| 21:57.37 | ninjer_pistachio | guu is so cool |
| 21:59.24 | zak_home | cool is one word for it |
| 22:02.06 | TD | zak is a girl - but zak is also a boys name? |
| 22:03.28 | CIA-4 | 03micah r1491 trunk/cia/LibCIA/IRC.py: Fixed brown and dark red in IRC.FormattingCode.codes |
| 22:04.29 | sbahra | zak_home is a girl? |
| 22:04.43 | zak_home | oy. |
| 22:04.56 | TD | oh |
| 22:04.57 | zak_home | hehe |
| 22:05.00 | TD | doh! |
| 22:05.30 | ninjer_pistachio | wow, its like this series is even more random |
| 22:05.43 | *** topic/#tacobeam by zak_home -> Hello, Navi. || TAG! we should play tonight (1/3/2004) || zak is a girl. so is Cae. so is Iris. || |
| 22:06.51 | ninjer_pistachio | zak_home: that could be a dangerous topic |
| 22:07.14 | *** topic/#tacobeam by zak_home -> Hello, Navi. || TAG! we should play tonight (1/3/2004) |
| 22:07.21 | ninjer_pistachio | hehe |
| 22:07.56 | sbahra | Hey guys |
| 22:08.17 | sbahra | Maybe you spoke to jimmac before, but is he generally a nice guy? I mean, would he be willing to blowing some time on making something for GNOME on FreeBSD for example? |
| 22:08.31 | ninjer_pistachio | sbahra: yes, i'm sure he would |
| 22:08.52 | sbahra | ninjer_pistachio: Is he on this network or only GIMPnet? |
| 22:10.05 | ninjer_pistachio | probably only gimpnet |
| 22:10.10 | sbahra | ninjer_pistachio: Oki, thanks. |
| 22:10.52 | ninjer_pistachio | the artists have really improved since the first series |
| 22:12.09 | sbahra | Well, jimmac is an exception to the others IMO. |
| 22:12.31 | sbahra | His work is better than tigerts and the other guys at Ximian (though, the others are good artists without a doubt) |
| 22:12.55 | sbahra | Ah, then? |
| 22:13.42 | ninjer_pistachio | the artists responsible for jungle |
| 22:13.50 | sbahra | Ok. |
| 22:15.27 | ninjer_pistachio | wow, the only response i can muster for the ending credits is "oh dear" |
| 22:20.31 | TD | sbahra: jimmac works for tigert though ;) |
| 22:20.39 | TD | sbahra: their style is identical nowadays, certainly i cannot tell the difference |
| 22:21.59 | CIA-4 | 03micah * r1492 /trunk/cia/LibCIA/Formatters.py: First whack at support for branches and modules in the CommitFormatter |
| 22:23.26 | CIA-4 | 03micah * r1493 /trunk/cia/LibCIA/Formatters.py: Strip leading slashes from the file prefix in format_files |
| 22:24.25 | ninjer_pistachio | yay mari |
| 22:26.32 | ninjer_pistachio | its amazing |
| 22:26.55 | ninjer_pistachio | this show has gotten so bizzare its almost as incomprehensible as excel |
| 22:28.02 | CIA-4 | 03micah * r1494 /trunk/cia/LibCIA/Formatters.py: Simplify a bit, always put the slash between module and files |
| 22:28.57 | sbahra | file: Do you have X on your FreeBSD box? or alteast the appropriate libraries... |
| 22:29.23 | ninjer_pistachio | and guu is as cool as ever |
| 22:32.00 | CIA-4 | 03micah * r1495 /trunk/cia/LibCIA/Formatters.py: Aha, didn't include a default implementation of format_branch, so in IRC it worked but it raised an AttributeError in XHTML |
| 22:34.18 | CIA-4 | 03micah * r1496 /trunk/cia/BUGS: Remove BUGS entries for module, branch, asterisk, and log whitespace |
| 22:36.38 | ninjer_pistachio | hehehe, another contest |
| 22:46.27 | ninjer_pistachio | wahoo, xvid encoding works on sasami |
| 22:49.02 | file | cool, my tracking script can figure out if a number I input is for UPS or Fedex now |
| 22:50.41 | ninjer_pistachio | ...tracking script? |
| 22:50.51 | file | to track packages |
| 22:50.53 | file | :p |
| 22:56.53 | ninjer_pistachio | you need a script for that? |
| 22:57.12 | file | well it'll soon be rigged up so I just submit a tracking number and it'll watch the tracking status |
| 22:57.22 | file | and upon a change, notify me via e-mail |
| 22:57.59 | file | could do it for anyone |
| 22:57.59 | CIA-4 | 03micah * r1497 /trunk/cia/LibCIA/IncomingMail.py: Strip whitespace from mail subjects before parsing them |
| 22:58.39 | file | ooh I could put in an IRC module! |
| 22:59.45 | scanline | you could use CIA :P |
| 22:59.54 | file | I was pondering that |
| 23:00.02 | scanline | make it drive around in a black van stalking UPS |
| 23:00.15 | file | but I'd want it for just a person's notification... mmm |
| 23:08.04 | ninjer_pistachio | yay, the afro |
| 23:14.17 | CIA-4 | 03micah * r1498 /trunk/cia/LibCIA/Formatters.py: (log message trimmed) |
| 23:14.18 | CIA-4 | Added support for truncating long log messages and removing blank lines. |
| 23:14.18 | CIA-4 | 2. This is a long log message for testing, yay... |
| 23:14.18 | CIA-4 | 3. squeegie |
| 23:14.18 | CIA-4 | 4. boing |
| 23:14.18 | CIA-4 | 5. wibble |
| 23:14.20 | CIA-4 | 6. potato |
| 23:14.22 | CIA-4 | 7. moose |
| 23:14.24 | CIA-4 | 8. apple |
| 23:14.26 | CIA-4 | 9. pumpkin |
| 23:14.43 | file | run cmd |
| 23:14.45 | file | grrrr |
| 23:17.59 | CIA-4 | 03micah * r1499 /trunk/cia/LibCIA/Formatters.py: (log message trimmed) |
| 23:18.00 | CIA-4 | Ok, it might help just a little if this actually truncated the log message. |
| 23:18.00 | CIA-4 | And now, for your entertainment: |
| 23:18.00 | CIA-4 | Ground control to major tom |
| 23:18.00 | CIA-4 | Take your protein pills and put your helmet on |
| 23:18.02 | CIA-4 | Ground control to major tom |
| 23:24.47 | scanline | ninjer_pistachio: "Pass completed, 0 bad blocks found." |
| 23:25.29 | ninjer_pistachio | wow, they've managed to make the old hairdresser even scarier |
| 23:25.31 | ninjer_pistachio | hrmph |
| 23:26.03 | ninjer_pistachio | scanline: lets try target4 |
| 23:26.12 | scanline | k |
| 23:27.00 | scanline | ninjer_pistachio: want to try running the badblocks on navi this time? |
| 23:27.04 | ninjer_pistachio | scanline: sure |
| 23:27.07 | scanline | k |
| 23:27.54 | scanline | ok, it's scanning |
| 23:28.12 | scanline | or trying to at least... |
| 23:28.24 | ninjer_pistachio | scanline: you need to come see the ending credits |
| 23:29.19 | *** join/#tacobeam pagefault (~pagefault@67.71.46.204) |
| 23:31.33 | CIA-4 | 03micah * r1500 /trunk/cia/LibCIA/Formatters.py: Fix off-by-one in log truncation |
| 23:53.37 | ChipX86|Gone | yay, made some money |
| 23:53.43 | ChipX86|Gone | now I can eat |
| 23:53.51 | ChipX86|Gone | TD: excellent work on linuxtodo |
| 23:54.15 | TD | ChipX86|Gone: yo |
| 23:54.16 | TD | thanks |
| 23:54.21 | TD | i'll probably think of some more soon |
| 23:54.26 | ChipX86|Gone | nod |
| 23:54.29 | ChipX86|Gone | I'll try to get to some soonish |
| 23:54.34 | TD | cool |
| 23:54.35 | ChipX86|Gone | about to head out in a few |
| 23:54.44 | TD | btw, i plugged it in here, these cretins ignored it :( |
| 23:54.51 | ChipX86|Gone | you bastards! |
| 23:54.57 | TD | heheh |
| 23:55.30 | ChipX86|Gone | btw, I requested to Paco-Paco that he lay off the attitude and treat you with a bit more respect. I hope it helps, but I can't promise anything |
| 23:56.57 | ChipX86|Gone | bbl |
| 23:57.47 | TD | thanks |
| 23:57.53 | TD | we'll see if he listens |
| 23:58.00 | TD | one thing i wasn't expecting was the whole "is the public domain a license" thing |
| 23:58.10 | TD | i chose that precisely to *avoid* that kind of discussion! :) |
| 23:59.52 | *** join/#tacobeam captain_pistachi (~blardebla@navi.cs.colorado.edu) |
