| 00:00.19 | darth_mall | captain_proton: sure |
| 00:01.28 | scanline | darth_mall: I'm getting just a little tired of the half-assed environmentalist in you |
| 00:02.34 | darth_mall | ?? |
| 00:03.01 | darth_mall | it's not so much that as that paper towels cost money |
| 00:03.01 | purple_cow | hrm, which one were we on? |
| 00:03.08 | darth_mall | and I don't see a reason to use them unnecessarily |
| 00:03.20 | scanline | well, you seem to care overly much about paper vs plastic and overuse of paper towels, but you don't care proportionately about things that are larger wastes |
| 00:03.36 | scanline | darth_mall: why should you care about that? I've bought most of the paper towels we've used |
| 00:03.49 | darth_mall | actually, I think I bought those, because it was my turn, wasn't it? |
| 00:04.03 | darth_mall | and in either case, I don't see why they should be used unnecessarily |
| 00:04.10 | darth_mall | but I go watch RoD now, cuz david's waiting |
| 00:04.11 | scanline | probably, but I had about 3 rolls of them when we first got here which is more than we've used since then |
| 00:04.16 | scanline | heh |
| 00:05.39 | purple_cow | scanline: any success on the monkeys? |
| 00:05.50 | scanline | purple_cow: yeah, dvdrip handled it fine |
| 00:05.55 | purple_cow | odd |
| 00:06.03 | purple_cow | but weirdly cool |
| 00:20.07 | darth_mall | wow, this show just got really weird |
| 00:20.16 | purple_cow | ...yeah |
| 00:20.27 | CIA-5 | 11trunk/cia/LibCIA r081303 03micah: Make the reason behind Stats.StatsStorage.uriencode() clearer |
| 00:20.34 | darth_mall | it's like that first episode of Key |
| 00:20.45 | purple_cow | except not quite as dirty |
| 00:20.50 | darth_mall | heh |
| 00:24.17 | gonkulator | captain_proton: don't worry, I won't use the gollum voice |
| 00:24.39 | purple_cow | gonkulator: i'm not worried, because even if you do i'll get my vengeance |
| 00:24.47 | darth_mall | lol |
| 00:24.58 | purple_cow | i just felt i should warn you, so the first time you do it you won't be caught completely off guard when i catch you in the gut |
| 00:25.17 | gonkulator | alright |
| 00:25.24 | gonkulator | well, g'night everyone |
| 00:25.25 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 00:25.35 | darth_mall | it's... 5:30! |
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| 00:26.20 | darth_mall | heya KeyserLaptop |
| 00:26.26 | KeyserLaptop | howdy |
| 00:27.13 | KeyserLaptop | darth_mall, can you try ssh'ing to 67.36.123.13 for a sec? |
| 00:27.59 | darth_mall | sure |
| 00:28.03 | KeyserLaptop | i can't seem to connect from any of my linux or windows machines at home, i'm wondering if it's my ISP |
| 00:28.04 | darth_mall | user? |
| 00:28.11 | KeyserLaptop | did it ask for one yet? |
| 00:28.30 | KeyserLaptop | i can't even get that far |
| 00:28.33 | darth_mall | well, if I don't put one it'll assume the user name is 'evan' |
| 00:28.39 | KeyserLaptop | that's okay |
| 00:28.51 | KeyserLaptop | i just want to see if it will let you attempt to login |
| 00:29.24 | darth_mall | well, it asks me for a password |
| 00:29.24 | purple_cow | KeyserLaptop: looks like its going through all the motions |
| 00:29.34 | KeyserLaptop | ah, good |
| 00:29.43 | darth_mall | yay for that show |
| 00:29.46 | KeyserLaptop | then it's just my ISP that's fucked up, apperently. |
| 00:30.01 | KeyserLaptop | hmm. does anyone have an sshd i can try to login to? |
| 00:31.13 | darth_mall | KeyserLaptop: could probably try navi |
| 00:31.31 | KeyserLaptop | www.navi.org? |
| 00:32.06 | KeyserLaptop | captain_proton, go for the bicycle! the clothes would never fit, anyway! |
| 00:32.16 | darth_mall | KeyserLaptop: navi.picogui.org |
| 00:32.56 | KeyserLaptop | damn. i can get to navi. |
| 00:33.32 | captain_proton | mmm, i lub silk shirts |
| 00:36.20 | CIA-5 | 11trunk/cia/LibCIA r081304 03micah: Make XMLStorage.save() safer- makes a backup of the old file before writing, and doesn't actually overwrite any existing file until the save has completed |
| 00:38.00 | captain_proton | welp, i'm off |
| 00:38.07 | darth_mall | bye |
| 01:00.00 | ChipX86 | eep |
| 01:00.15 | scanline | just upgrading it a bit |
| 01:00.18 | ChipX86 | oh ok |
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| 01:00.30 | scanline | thought I could do this one without restarting it, but I forgot that I changed the XMLStorage constructor |
| 01:01.03 | ChipX86 | I thought you weren't around :) |
| 01:01.10 | scanline | :) |
| 01:01.16 | scanline | this new CIA has been amazingly stable |
| 01:01.38 | scanline | aside from intentionally stopping it to upgrade, and a few times when it's been flooded off and automatically reconnected, it hasn't gone down |
| 01:01.46 | ChipX86 | CIA is one of the truly cool things in the open source community |
| 01:02.07 | darth_mall | oh no! ChipX86, you've flattened scanline!! |
| 01:02.12 | ChipX86 | oh no! |
| 01:02.14 | scanline | oops |
| 01:03.12 | darth_mall | scanline: just out of curiosity, how long does it usually take you to read through someone elses code? |
| 01:03.27 | darth_mall | I guess that's kinda a silly question |
| 01:04.22 | scanline | hehe |
| 01:04.27 | scanline | I take it I should look at pyhangman |
| 01:04.29 | scanline | I can do that |
| 01:04.33 | darth_mall | nonono |
| 01:04.39 | darth_mall | that's not what I meant ^^ |
| 01:04.51 | darth_mall | not at all ^^ |
| 01:04.55 | scanline | nah, it's no problem... I still need to let these ideas for CIA's web interface settle a bit before I actually start coding |
| 01:05.04 | darth_mall | I'm just trying to read through how openrpg does it's XML thing |
| 01:05.08 | scanline | ah |
| 01:06.15 | scanline | oh, that's not how I took it.. but I see how I could have :) |
| 01:06.23 | darth_mall | me too |
| 01:06.36 | darth_mall | but since I've taken that about as far as I intend it's pretty much out of my mind |
| 01:06.44 | darth_mall | so that thought hadn't crossed my mind |
| 01:07.15 | darth_mall | though, I'd be interested to hear what you have to say about this XML file that was generated by openrpg |
| 01:07.22 | scanline | ok |
| 01:07.29 | darth_mall | cuz it looks a little messy to me, but I've only read w3c's thing on XMK |
| 01:07.32 | darth_mall | erm... XML |
| 02:09.59 | darth_mall | well, it seems that I have a new project |
| 02:12.02 | scanline | I love it when after drying my clothes they're almost as wet as when I put them in |
| 02:16.15 | darth_mall | this is gonna be so awesome |
| 02:16.22 | darth_mall | scanline got me all excited |
| 02:16.36 | scanline | er, =) |
| 02:16.52 | darth_mall | now I just gotta figger out where to start |
| 02:30.47 | CIA-5 | 11trunk/cia r081305 03micah: Update BUGS, take a first whack at a README |
| 02:32.01 | darth_mall | yay readme's!! |
| 02:32.08 | scanline | yay |
| 02:33.04 | darth_mall | yay C+ in physics! |
| 02:34.30 | scanline | hey looky.. 'B's in linear algeber and AI |
| 02:34.35 | scanline | nothing yet for the other classes |
| 02:34.42 | darth_mall | which should be a B |
| 02:35.25 | KeyserLaptop | Harbor Freight is the most magical place on earth. |
| 02:36.17 | KeyserLaptop | num comp? |
| 02:36.36 | scanline | yeah.. supposedly it's a class about numerical computation |
| 02:36.57 | scanline | but it's really just a really really awfully taught linear algebra class |
| 02:36.57 | KeyserLaptop | that sounds like fun. |
| 02:36.57 | KeyserLaptop | oh, that doesn't sound like fun. |
| 02:37.39 | KeyserLaptop | do you have another option? |
| 02:37.42 | scanline | dang, this Dream Theater is indeed cool |
| 02:37.51 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 02:37.58 | ChipX86 | which are you listening to? |
| 02:38.10 | ChipX86 | I think I'll start the upload of that video |
| 02:38.17 | ChipX86 | I had half of it up, had to stop it, and accidentally nuked it |
| 02:38.17 | scanline | six degrees of inner turbulence, disc 1 |
| 02:38.22 | ChipX86 | ah :) |
| 02:38.30 | ChipX86 | disc 2 is also really good, and so is SFAM |
| 02:38.35 | scanline | =) |
| 02:38.41 | ChipX86 | but 6DoIT is one of the best things they've produced |
| 02:38.49 | scanline | spiffy |
| 02:40.35 | KeyserLaptop | http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Category.taf?categoryid=164&pricetype=S&categoryname=TAP%20%26%20DIE%20SETS |
| 02:41.57 | ChipX86 | The Glass Prison ties in to a part of SFAM, The Mirror and Lie on Awake, and I think This Dying Soul on ToT |
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| 05:37.57 | file[laptop] | goodnight all |
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| 05:59.36 | darth_mall | yay for the internet being back! |
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| 06:02.40 | scanline | hooray for twisted.web |
| 06:03.04 | scanline | their web template stuff is cool in a hey-look-its-like-lobotomized-XSLT way |
| 06:04.04 | scanline | but it's really nice being able to serve stats, general info, and XML-RPC all from twistd then proxying that into apache |
| 06:04.49 | darth_mall | captain_proton: because he's file |
| 06:05.20 | captain_proton | scanline: but proper formal wear is so comfy :) |
| 06:05.33 | scanline | pff |
| 06:05.58 | scanline | but t-shirts are more comfy, and substantially cheaper and simpler |
| 06:07.33 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 06:09.38 | captain_proton | hmm, laundry |
| 06:11.57 | captain_proton | yay |
| 06:12.10 | darth_mall | yay! |
| 06:12.31 | darth_mall | where'd you eat anyway? |
| 06:14.36 | captain_proton | mateo |
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| 06:20.38 | CIA-1_ | boing |
| 06:20.59 | darth_mall | weeee! it's CIA! |
| 06:21.24 | scanline | hah.. was trying to see if CIA could use /me, but I can't put a ^A in the input without the XML parser choking :) |
| 06:21.46 | darth_mall | poor XML parser choking on stuff |
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| 06:27.43 | darth_mall | wb ChipX86 |
| 06:27.47 | ChipX86 | thanks |
| 06:31.46 | captain_proton | mmm, i love how this song sounds better every time i listen |
| 06:37.57 | captain_proton | dowdy says, "well, it only took Roger about 9 hours to send a trouble report about his e-mail. I can't believe he didn't do it within 30 minutes, |
| 06:37.57 | captain_proton | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:37.57 | captain_proton | dowdy says, "There was a time when i actually gave a shoot and woulda come in to reboot those machines today, but not anymore..." |
| 06:39.02 | captain_proton | yay for aim doing large font sizes |
| 06:40.18 | darth_mall | wtf!! |
| 06:40.31 | darth_mall | This pdf includes the grade points that I have recommended to Prof. Noel |
| 06:40.31 | darth_mall | Clark. Prof. Clark has the final say in your grades, so these are not |
| 06:40.31 | darth_mall | final. |
| 06:40.53 | darth_mall | I've never even met this prof because he decided not to bother to teach his class! |
| 06:41.06 | captain_proton | i think thats the guy who "taught" our version of it |
| 06:41.24 | darth_mall | wtf kinda right does he think he has to decide my grade when he didn't even show up for anything! |
| 06:41.26 | darth_mall | grrrr |
| 06:41.58 | captain_proton | heh, if you get a grade other than whats on that sheet, thats what deans are for ;) |
| 06:42.09 | darth_mall | damn straight |
| 06:44.53 | lurgy|elsewhere | dweedeedoo |
| 06:47.40 | captain_proton | yay, bullwinkle |
| 06:47.46 | lurgy|elsewhere | hiya captain_proton |
| 06:47.50 | lurgy|elsewhere | hmm |
| 06:47.53 | darth_mall | mmm... Bulwinkle |
| 06:47.58 | darth_mall | hey lurgy|elsewhere |
| 06:48.05 | darth_mall | you should come over and we should play smash or something |
| 06:48.16 | lurgy|elsewhere | heh |
| 06:48.33 | lurgy|elsewhere | probably not tonight |
| 06:48.35 | captain_proton | whee, eileen is back in town |
| 06:48.36 | darth_mall | =( |
| 06:49.00 | lurgy|elsewhere | besides |
| 06:49.16 | darth_mall | oooh |
| 06:49.22 | darth_mall | Order of the Phoenix? |
| 06:49.40 | darth_mall | that one was great |
| 06:50.30 | lurgy|elsewhere | hasn't gotten anywhere yet, but i'm only ~180 pages in :) |
| 06:50.52 | lurgy|elsewhere | hmm, seems i made the dean's list this semester |
| 06:51.06 | darth_mall | lurgy|elsewhere: cool |
| 06:51.55 | lurgy|elsewhere | :p |
| 06:52.04 | darth_mall | lurgy|elsewhere: looks good, I guess ^^ |
| 06:52.11 | darth_mall | bragging rights maybe? ^^ |
| 06:52.24 | lurgy|elsewhere | hehe |
| 06:52.24 | lurgy|elsewhere | yay for darth_mall |
| 06:52.26 | captain_proton | so my mom was fishing for more gifts to get me (other than the haibane dvds i already suggested) |
| 06:52.32 | captain_proton | so i think i'm gonna get a knife stone =) |
| 06:52.32 | lurgy|elsewhere | yeah... this was likely to be my best semester |
| 06:52.36 | lurgy|elsewhere | next sem. is going to suck |
| 06:52.46 | darth_mall | captain_proton: a laptop for me ^^ |
| 06:52.47 | captain_proton | next semester for me is gonna be a good deal of fun |
| 06:53.15 | ChipX86 | next semester will be my hardest |
| 06:53.51 | lurgy|elsewhere | all of which will probably involve significant amounts of work :/ |
| 06:54.05 | lurgy|elsewhere | ChipX86: i feel your pain :( |
| 06:54.14 | lurgy|elsewhere | captain_proton: with eileen? |
| 06:54.20 | captain_proton | lurgy|elsewhere: yup |
| 06:54.25 | lurgy|elsewhere | ooh |
| 06:54.34 | ChipX86 | who? |
| 06:54.59 | lurgy|elsewhere | captain_proton is being a sly little fox... |
| 06:55.06 | lurgy|elsewhere | ChipX86: high school friend |
| 06:55.21 | darth_mall | ;) |
| 06:55.25 | ChipX86 | ah |
| 06:55.29 | darth_mall | you go captain_proton! ^^ |
| 06:55.37 | lurgy|elsewhere | hehe |
| 06:55.46 | ChipX86 | I can't believe I'm watching Mortal Kombat.. there has to be something on |
| 06:56.13 | darth_mall | lol |
| 06:57.12 | lurgy|elsewhere | captain_proton: how long until this exciting encounter is to take place? |
| 06:57.27 | ChipX86 | video tape it! |
| 06:57.31 | captain_proton | heh |
| 06:57.35 | captain_proton | there' |
| 06:57.57 | captain_proton | s really not much chance of a real "relationship" due to her living elsewhere and all |
| 06:58.03 | darth_mall | pfff |
| 06:58.12 | darth_mall | who needs relationships when you can have casual sex >;) |
| 06:58.20 | darth_mall | lol |
| 06:58.26 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 06:58.30 | darth_mall | that was awful, but it cracked me up ^^ |
| 06:58.41 | captain_proton | at this point i'd much rather have someone to sleep with than have sex with |
| 06:58.42 | lurgy|elsewhere | heh |
| 06:58.58 | pagefault | yay MSN going down |
| 06:59.01 | pagefault | in 10 minutes |
| 06:59.06 | lurgy|elsewhere | you mean someone to beat you over the head so you'd end up actually asleep? |
| 06:59.09 | captain_proton | quick pagefault, bother ChipX86 about it! |
| 06:59.15 | pagefault | ChipX86 MSN is going down!! |
| 06:59.15 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 06:59.20 | lurgy|elsewhere | :p |
| 06:59.21 | darth_mall | ChipX86: fix it! |
| 06:59.33 | scanline | hey look, it's that conversation we have every night in tacobeam :) |
| 06:59.48 | darth_mall | scanline: ^^ |
| 07:00.15 | darth_mall | ooh, really? |
| 07:00.26 | ChipX86 | mmmm |
| 07:00.30 | lurgy|elsewhere | scanline: i know :/ i'm scared |
| 07:00.37 | darth_mall | though we should go to the grocery store |
| 07:00.42 | darth_mall | need more half & half |
| 07:00.46 | darth_mall | and I want more donuts! |
| 07:00.54 | lurgy|elsewhere | hmm |
| 07:01.14 | lurgy|elsewhere | scanline: mind if i borrow the BttF dvds at some point this break? |
| 07:01.53 | lurgy|elsewhere | er |
| 07:02.00 | lurgy|elsewhere | s/about/after/ |
| 07:02.04 | captain_proton | lurgy|elsewhere: *anything* will work for that |
| 07:02.09 | darth_mall | which is BttF? |
| 07:02.23 | captain_proton | the thing is that you'll likely be so drugged up that it won't matter |
| 07:02.27 | scanline | lurgy|elsewhere: sure.. sorry about the wisdom teeth :( |
| 07:02.31 | captain_proton | (at least if you're getting the bottom ones removed) |
| 07:03.03 | darth_mall | hehe, they dremmeled one of my lowers |
| 07:03.07 | darth_mall | that was great |
| 07:03.16 | captain_proton | chiseled out both of my lowers |
| 07:03.18 | lurgy|elsewhere | scanline: no worries, hasn't happened yet :) |
| 07:03.24 | darth_mall | lurgy|elsewhere: it's cake |
| 07:03.25 | captain_proton | and chipped off a fragment of my jawbone in the process =/ |
| 07:03.32 | darth_mall | captain_proton: that sucks |
| 07:03.55 | captain_proton | eh, two shots of novocaine, one large pair of tweezers and a lot of pulling later and i was fine |
| 07:04.03 | darth_mall | lol |
| 07:04.15 | lurgy|elsewhere | hehe |
| 07:04.17 | darth_mall | lurgy|elsewhere: what you need is a lot of Pink Floyd |
| 07:04.23 | lurgy|elsewhere | hehe |
| 07:04.27 | captain_proton | yup, perfect dentist song |
| 07:04.28 | lurgy|elsewhere | my dad will have that on LP |
| 07:04.47 | darth_mall | ever since my iPod randomed Comfortably Numb while I was having a cavity filled |
| 07:05.03 | scanline | =) |
| 07:05.05 | lurgy|elsewhere | one time when i was little i went to the dentist's office to get a cavity filled |
| 07:05.08 | lurgy|elsewhere | only |
| 07:05.16 | darth_mall | it was a brain cavity? |
| 07:05.22 | lurgy|elsewhere | i was still deathly petrified of needles |
| 07:05.23 | lurgy|elsewhere | so |
| 07:05.28 | captain_proton | or you could listen to the dentists song from little shop of horrors =D |
| 07:05.39 | lurgy|elsewhere | i had them do the drilling w/o novocaine |
| 07:05.46 | lurgy|elsewhere | bad idea |
| 07:05.47 | darth_mall | or Numb Me, Drill Me, Floss Me, Bill Me |
| 07:06.24 | lurgy|elsewhere | my mom forced them to dope me up after a few minutes |
| 07:07.52 | lurgy|elsewhere | doodeedoo |
| 07:07.59 | darth_mall | hi lurgy|elsewhere! |
| 07:08.00 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 07:08.12 | lurgy|elsewhere | hehe |
| 07:08.15 | lurgy|elsewhere | morning darth_mall |
| 07:08.37 | captain_proton | heh, my sister is deathly afraid of needles |
| 07:08.39 | lurgy|elsewhere | :) |
| 07:08.41 | darth_mall | actually, no |
| 07:08.53 | captain_proton | when the oral surgeon guy pulled out the needle for my fragment removal, she almost fainted :) |
| 07:08.54 | darth_mall | all of my allergy shots and what not |
| 07:09.00 | lurgy|elsewhere | ah |
| 07:09.05 | lurgy|elsewhere | heh |
| 07:09.18 | darth_mall | almost as good as being diabetic |
| 07:09.20 | captain_proton | wow, 50F outside |
| 07:09.32 | lurgy|elsewhere | impressive |
| 07:09.40 | darth_mall | someday I'll dig out all of my weird al videos and put 'em on navi |
| 07:09.43 | darth_mall | in fact... |
| 07:10.59 | darth_mall | heh, it randomed Numb Me, Drill Me... |
| 07:11.01 | lurgy|elsewhere | when are those dvds due back? |
| 07:11.05 | lurgy|elsewhere | heh |
| 07:11.20 | darth_mall | too bad I don't like that song ^^ |
| 07:12.24 | captain_proton | lurgy|elsewhere: 23/12 |
| 07:12.33 | lurgy|elsewhere | ah, monday |
| 07:12.36 | lurgy|elsewhere | just curious :) |
| 07:13.11 | captain_proton | huh? |
| 07:13.46 | lurgy|elsewhere | ...for being late |
| 07:14.18 | captain_proton | darth_mall's account? |
| 07:14.20 | darth_mall | yeah |
| 07:14.22 | darth_mall | we used my card |
| 07:14.29 | captain_proton | ohhh |
| 07:14.30 | captain_proton | THOSE movies |
| 07:14.33 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 07:14.34 | captain_proton | i thought you were saying library |
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| 07:15.10 | lurgy|elsewhere | theoretically, we should have 5 days |
| 07:15.14 | lurgy|elsewhere | since they're oldish |
| 07:15.26 | lurgy|elsewhere | but sooner is better, so long as they're ripped :) |
| 07:15.41 | darth_mall | if they're all ripped we should return 'em tonight and get me some donuts |
| 07:15.43 | lurgy|elsewhere | hmm |
| 07:15.48 | scanline | hmm, when I upgraded CIA it picked up my web-code-in-progress |
| 07:15.49 | scanline | http://navi.picogui.org:3910/ |
| 07:15.56 | lurgy|elsewhere | thurs. night, i think |
| 07:16.29 | captain_proton | i don't think NxNW is ripped |
| 07:16.47 | lurgy|elsewhere | boo |
| 07:16.49 | lurgy|elsewhere | :) |
| 07:17.22 | darth_mall | is there a way to test if a class has a method of a certain name? |
| 07:17.40 | scanline | hasattr(cls, methodName) |
| 07:17.40 | lurgy|elsewhere | in python? |
| 07:17.46 | darth_mall | scanline: danke |
| 07:17.52 | darth_mall | lurgy|elsewhere: yeah |
| 07:17.53 | scanline | that doesn't tell you that it's necessarily a method though |
| 07:17.57 | scanline | would need to check its type |
| 07:18.14 | darth_mall | ok |
| 07:18.14 | captain_proton | hmm, supposably this channel has RoD 15 |
| 07:18.21 | scanline | hasattr(cls, methodName) and callable(getattr(cls, methodName)) |
| 07:18.25 | captain_proton | i wonder if they're still fansubbing them |
| 07:18.27 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 07:18.40 | darth_mall | this song always makes me think of lurgy|elsewhere |
| 07:18.48 | darth_mall | scanline: ok, thanks |
| 07:19.20 | lurgy|elsewhere | hehe |
| 07:19.28 | lurgy|elsewhere | darth_mall: ? |
| 07:19.43 | darth_mall | Dare to Be Stupid ^^ |
| 07:19.48 | captain_proton | sweet, a torrent address for RoD 15 |
| 07:19.57 | darth_mall | not because lurgy|elsewhere is stupid, but because there's some line about a duck in here |
| 07:20.12 | darth_mall | and for some reason it just reminds me of you |
| 07:21.15 | lurgy|elsewhere | hehe |
| 07:21.22 | captain_proton | yup, this file was just posted 12 dec |
| 07:21.27 | captain_proton | wahooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 07:21.29 | darth_mall | hmmm |
| 07:21.38 | captain_proton | this means that RoD is still being fansubbed |
| 07:21.39 | captain_proton | =D |
| 07:21.57 | darth_mall | there seems to be a sound clip from UHF in the Weird Al directory |
| 07:22.03 | darth_mall | captain_proton: cool |
| 07:23.39 | captain_proton | and i found a channel that supposably has some additional whr, if this bot gets back online (of dubious quality, no doubt) |
| 07:25.01 | darth_mall | hmmm... |
| 07:26.14 | darth_mall | omg |
| 07:26.28 | darth_mall | some how we got a copy of Weird Al's Peter and the Wolf on navi |
| 07:26.43 | lurgy|elsewhere | that came from babylonia |
| 07:26.52 | darth_mall | ah |
| 07:26.54 | lurgy|elsewhere | it's not as good as peter schickele's, though :) |
| 07:27.00 | darth_mall | no, it's not |
| 07:27.03 | darth_mall | but it's still really cool |
| 07:27.05 | lurgy|elsewhere | silly synth orchestra :) |
| 07:27.07 | lurgy|elsewhere | yep |
| 07:27.18 | darth_mall | especially how Bob the Janitor is represented by the accordion |
| 07:27.25 | lurgy|elsewhere | heh |
| 07:27.32 | darth_mall | although my personal favorite is still the Dave Van Ronk version |
| 07:27.40 | lurgy|elsewhere | :) |
| 07:28.00 | captain_proton | lurgyman: you could -record- the sean connery version |
| 07:28.10 | lurgy|elsewhere | or a mythical, as-yet unrecorded Christopher Lloyd version |
| 07:28.14 | captain_proton | use the orchestral bits from schikele's, since its so good |
| 07:28.25 | lurgy|elsewhere | captain_proton: but there's already a Sean Connery version :) |
| 07:28.34 | captain_proton | there is?!?! |
| 07:28.48 | captain_proton | freaky |
| 07:29.00 | captain_proton | scanline / darth_mall: more coffee? |
| 07:29.03 | scanline | ok |
| 07:29.22 | scanline | arr... silly databases not allowing multiple processes to open them for writing |
| 07:29.55 | captain_proton | scanline: you should fork berkdb to make it support transactions ;) |
| 07:30.13 | captain_proton | >:) |
| 07:30.13 | scanline | it does already |
| 07:30.20 | captain_proton | really? |
| 07:30.21 | captain_proton | wow |
| 07:30.26 | scanline | at least in its libdb3 incarnation, yeah |
| 07:30.57 | scanline | but the question is whether I can do this using python's little 'anydbm' wrapper or if I'll need something more fancy |
| 07:31.21 | captain_proton | does python have an ODBC wrapper? |
| 07:31.33 | lurgy|elsewhere | captain_proton: how'd you do in aural skills? |
| 07:31.42 | captain_proton | lurgyman: b |
| 07:31.42 | darth_mall | captain_proton: wha? |
| 07:31.47 | darth_mall | captain_proton: yeah, more coffee |
| 07:31.54 | captain_proton | mmk |
| 07:31.55 | captain_proton | 10 cups? |
| 07:31.56 | lurgy|elsewhere | captain_proton: curiously... me too :) |
| 07:31.57 | darth_mall | but we should make a trip to Safeway cuz no more half and half! |
| 07:31.59 | scanline | sure |
| 07:32.05 | captain_proton | darth_mall: hmm, true |
| 07:32.12 | darth_mall | and I want donuts dammit! |
| 07:32.20 | darth_mall | I'd drive if I had a car, but alas... |
| 07:32.20 | scanline | captain_proton: probably does, but this really doesn't need to be that complex... |
| 07:32.22 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 07:32.35 | captain_proton | lurgyman: i probably could have pulled something higher, but i managed to forget to do a couple of the "short homework"s |
| 07:32.48 | captain_proton | darth_mall: guess its my turn for the 1/2+1/2? |
| 07:32.50 | lurgy|elsewhere | captain_proton: ah |
| 07:32.53 | darth_mall | captain_proton: I think so |
| 07:33.04 | captain_proton | we should probably start buying it quarts at a time |
| 07:33.10 | captain_proton | just to make trips less frequent |
| 07:33.16 | scanline | you should just buy milk and boil it down |
| 07:33.21 | captain_proton | hahaha |
| 07:33.34 | captain_proton | oh, btw, i should be getting a good number of quality indian recipes soonish |
| 07:33.35 | darth_mall | captain_proton: does it come in quarts? |
| 07:33.37 | captain_proton | including one for paneer =D |
| 07:33.42 | darth_mall | or do you mean we both by one? |
| 07:33.53 | captain_proton | err, i mean half-gallon (we already buy it in quarts) |
| 07:33.58 | darth_mall | erm... yeah |
| 07:34.01 | darth_mall | same quesiton |
| 07:34.14 | captain_proton | we could each buy one or we could just switch who buys two |
| 07:34.31 | darth_mall | I think I might prefer each buying one |
| 07:34.38 | captain_proton | i don't think we need 5-gallon tubs |
| 07:34.40 | darth_mall | because it would seem more expensive to buy 2 at a time |
| 07:35.15 | darth_mall | we probably don't need 5-gal tubs, but that would just mean we'd have to drink more coffee ^^ |
| 07:35.19 | captain_proton | http://www.gotwoot.net/torrents.php |
| 07:35.46 | captain_proton | yay for spurious newlines |
| 07:35.55 | captain_proton | so are we heading safewaywards? |
| 07:35.56 | scanline | hmm, there is a nice wrapper around berkeley DB for python |
| 07:36.08 | scanline | I don't think I need anything there |
| 07:36.10 | captain_proton | err, we should probably wait 10 minutes so i can get my laundry |
| 07:36.47 | captain_proton | hmm, i wonder if those columns mean there are 647 seeds for this file |
| 07:36.56 | captain_proton | (pulling 380K) |
| 07:37.43 | captain_proton | ooh, ircspy.com is cool |
| 07:37.48 | captain_proton | its like packetnews, but with fewer popup ads |
| 07:37.51 | captain_proton | and working search |
| 07:38.02 | lurgy|elsewhere | heh |
| 07:38.04 | lurgy|elsewhere | indeed |
| 07:50.40 | darth_mall | yay Bob the Janitor! |
| 07:51.47 | CIA-5 | 11trunk/cia r081307 03micah: Implemented a simple capability-based security model for CIA, put it to use in rebuild() |
| 07:52.25 | darth_mall | lurgy|elsewhere: bluffing about what now? |
| 07:52.26 | captain_proton | damn! |
| 07:52.34 | lurgy|elsewhere | i don't know |
| 07:52.37 | lurgy|elsewhere | but captain_proton folded |
| 07:52.40 | darth_mall | lol |
| 07:52.44 | lurgy|elsewhere | so i get the pot |
| 07:52.52 | lurgy|elsewhere | hurray |
| 07:53.09 | captain_proton | i'll show YOU a poker face! |
| 07:53.18 | lurgy|elsewhere | ow |
| 07:53.23 | darth_mall | fire...place? |
| 07:53.42 | darth_mall | lurgy|elsewhere: just don't get caught with the pot, you could get introuble |
| 07:54.41 | captain_proton | darth_mall: well, the poker is kept by the fireplace |
| 07:55.24 | lurgy|elsewhere | darth_mall: yeah, there are cookies in it |
| 07:56.56 | captain_proton | i thought brownies were more traditional? |
| 07:57.08 | CIA-5 | 11trunk/cia/LibCIA r081308 03micah: base64-encode the capability keys so xmlrpclib.Binary() isn't necessary |
| 07:57.17 | darth_mall | captain_proton: I was going to say something similar |
| 07:57.36 | darth_mall | oi, girls are so weird |
| 07:58.03 | lurgy|elsewhere | because of brownies in the cookie pot? |
| 07:58.08 | darth_mall | you bet |
| 07:58.20 | darth_mall | lurgy|elsewhere: why aren't you over here? |
| 08:00.00 | darth_mall | yeah, but you should be here now |
| 08:00.13 | lurgy|elsewhere | heh |
| 08:00.15 | lurgy|elsewhere | i see |
| 08:00.18 | lurgy|elsewhere | so i kin go shoppinge? |
| 08:00.27 | darth_mall | no, so you can entertain me |
| 08:00.52 | captain_proton | yay, all folded |
| 08:01.08 | darth_mall | ugh, this thinking is my brain hurt |
| 08:01.22 | captain_proton | yay for english |
| 08:02.04 | captain_proton | so, shoppinge? |
| 08:02.13 | darth_mall | sure |
| 08:02.54 | captain_proton | lurgy|elsewhere: kvod's modern hour is damn cool |
| 08:03.05 | lurgy|elsewhere | :) |
| 08:03.11 | lurgy|elsewhere | what'd they play? |
| 08:03.36 | captain_proton | i think it was Einojuhani Rautavaara: Cantus Arcticus |
| 08:04.04 | captain_proton | which you need to find on #mp3_classical ;) |
| 08:06.20 | lurgy|elsewhere | heh |
| 08:06.20 | lurgy|elsewhere | right |
| 08:06.26 | lurgy|elsewhere | cuz they'll have that sort of thing :) |
| 08:06.28 | lurgy|elsewhere | have fun |
| 08:07.12 | *** join/#tacobeam Cae (~cae@user-0ceicer.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 08:07.56 | lurgy|elsewhere | hiya Cae ! |
| 08:08.06 | Cae | hey :) |
| 08:08.55 | lurgy|elsewhere | what's up? |
| 08:08.59 | lurgy|elsewhere | how's life? |
| 08:09.14 | Cae | exams are over, I be happy |
| 08:09.23 | lurgy|elsewhere | hurray |
| 08:09.25 | lurgy|elsewhere | how'd they go? |
| 08:09.42 | pagefault | oops |
| 08:09.54 | pagefault | I never put the url to my project on the CVS commit tracker stat page thingy |
| 08:09.59 | pagefault | say that 5 times fast |
| 08:10.39 | lurgy|elsewhere | done |
| 08:10.52 | pagefault | oh wait it's down anyway I think |
| 08:10.57 | Cae | not a clue |
| 08:11.23 | lurgy|elsewhere | :) |
| 08:11.30 | lurgy|elsewhere | but they're done, and that's all that matters :) |
| 08:11.34 | lurgy|elsewhere | yay! |
| 08:15.11 | lurgy|elsewhere | it's like gaim |
| 08:15.13 | lurgy|elsewhere | in windows |
| 08:23.55 | captain_proton | 'allo Cae |
| 08:24.05 | darth_mall | yay I'm back! |
| 08:24.21 | captain_proton | yay, new RoD is all downloaded |
| 08:24.23 | darth_mall | hmmm... I should pick some better music |
| 08:24.29 | scanline | damn, this little capabilities system turned out rather cute |
| 08:24.53 | Cae | heh |
| 08:25.19 | darth_mall | oh no! it's Cae! hide!! |
| 08:25.29 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 08:25.32 | Cae | oh. wait. hm. |
| 08:25.34 | darth_mall | mmm... Chili Peppers |
| 08:26.05 | captain_proton | ...speaking of RoD |
| 08:26.32 | darth_mall | but, but... I'm trying to think |
| 08:26.42 | captain_proton | fine fine |
| 08:27.11 | Cae | watch Red vs Blue. all of you. now! |
| 08:28.19 | captain_proton | yay |
| 08:28.27 | scanline | hold on, this part's cool |
| 08:28.40 | ChipX86 | captain_proton: request from faceprint |
| 08:28.45 | ChipX86 | faceprint is a cool guy, so I'll do it |
| 08:28.51 | captain_proton | ah |
| 08:28.55 | captain_proton | that's ok |
| 08:29.09 | captain_proton | aww, no Rautavaara in any of the #mp3_classical lists |
| 08:29.46 | Cae | g'night peoples |
| 08:29.50 | ChipX86 | g'night Cae |
| 08:29.50 | captain_proton | 'night Cae |
| 08:31.49 | darth_mall | nighty night |
| 08:32.05 | *** join/#tacobeam W8TVI|z (~zic@userd90.torchlake.com) |
| 08:32.28 | darth_mall | oooh zic |
| 08:33.00 | W8TVI|z | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:33.10 | W8TVI|z | works for me |
| 08:34.50 | darth_mall | though, I haven't really used my Z in a while, so I haven't used it enough to really decide |
| 08:35.33 | W8TVI|z | i think you can get irssi for the z now |
| 08:36.09 | lurgy|elsewhere | ...starring Christopher Lloyd as Princess Leia, fighting an unforgiving society who won't let him fulfull his princess dream... |
| 08:36.25 | darth_mall | W8TVI|z: really? |
| 08:36.31 | W8TVI|z | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:36.32 | darth_mall | guh, lurgy|elsewhere |
| 08:36.46 | W8TVI|z | well... i think so.... |
| 08:47.29 | darth_mall | hmm... |
| 08:47.50 | lurgy|elsewhere | wow |
| 08:47.58 | lurgy|elsewhere | that would make... 6 times in as many days? |
| 08:48.04 | darth_mall | heh, not quite |
| 08:48.04 | captain_proton | darth_mall: you know you want RoD |
| 08:48.05 | captain_proton | ;) |
| 08:48.09 | lurgy|elsewhere | hehe |
| 08:48.10 | darth_mall | captain_proton: but I can't ignore that |
| 08:48.14 | captain_proton | or at least, a public showing |
| 08:54.46 | darth_mall | mmm... coffee and donuts are good for the soul |
| 08:55.28 | scanline | -rw------- 1 micah users 175 Dec 21 01:55 universe.key |
| 08:58.10 | CIA-5 | 11trunk/cia r081309 03micah: Flesh out the capabilities a bit, add some nifty bits for ruleset editing |
| 08:59.10 | CIA-5 | 11trunk/cia/data r081310 03micah: More svn:ignore entries |
| 09:01.16 | scanline | yay for capabilities |
| 09:01.33 | scanline | this will make it easy to delegate control of one particular module, function, or URI to someone safely |
| 09:05.06 | lurgy|elsewhere | cr4ap |
| 09:05.27 | scanline | ? |
| 09:05.41 | lurgy|elsewhere | and the volume was up way way too high |
| 09:05.47 | scanline | hah |
| 09:05.59 | lurgy|elsewhere | some televangelist pops up and says "YOU CAN'T SPELL EVILUTION WITHOUT EEEEVIL" |
| 09:06.07 | lurgy|elsewhere | now i think the whole house must be awake |
| 09:06.21 | scanline | haha |
| 09:06.23 | scanline | wow |
| 09:06.49 | lurgy|elsewhere | well |
| 09:06.52 | lurgy|elsewhere | maybe you can't |
| 09:07.00 | lurgy|elsewhere | but you shouldn't put them on TV otherwise |
| 09:08.13 | lurgy|elsewhere | the sad thing is |
| 09:08.17 | lurgy|elsewhere | it's happened before |
| 09:08.42 | purple_cow | hmm, looks like 640x480 might be working with xv |
| 09:08.48 | darth_mall | yay purple_cow fixing the TV |
| 09:08.50 | lurgy|elsewhere | yay |
| 09:09.06 | lurgy|elsewhere | no more ps2 guruness required :) |
| 09:09.12 | darth_mall | bah, stupid non velcro feet on my laptop! |
| 09:09.15 | ChipX86 | g'night everyone |
| 09:09.19 | darth_mall | night ChipX86|Sleep |
| 09:09.20 | lurgy|elsewhere | night ChipX86|Sleep |
| 09:09.32 | darth_mall | mmmm... lub this moive |
| 09:09.34 | darth_mall | erm... movie |
| 09:10.01 | scanline | which movie? |
| 09:10.24 | darth_mall | Pirates! |
| 09:10.25 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 09:10.26 | CIA-5 | 11trunk/cia/LibCIA r081311 03micah: damn, capabilities are cool |
| 09:10.45 | scanline | ah :) |
| 09:11.04 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 09:14.49 | lurgy|elsewhere | hmm |
| 09:15.04 | lurgy|elsewhere | scanline: if darth_mall is naughty, take away his pirates priviledges |
| 09:15.10 | darth_mall | yay it's Legolas! |
| 09:15.27 | darth_mall | no! |
| 09:15.37 | darth_mall | stay put or be beaten with tables! |
| 09:17.30 | scanline | hmm, might as well go ahead and make CIA require python 2.3 =) |
| 09:17.37 | darth_mall | dammit Jonny Depp is cool! |
| 09:24.24 | purple_cow | w00t for multi-attach screen |
| 09:24.44 | darth_mall | boo for my brain not working |
| 09:27.48 | scanline | "Inheritance, Or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Superclass" |
| 09:28.49 | darth_mall | lol |
| 09:28.59 | darth_mall | where'd you get that? |
| 09:29.04 | scanline | one of the twisted docs |
| 09:29.15 | scanline | http://twistedmatrix.com/documents/howto/op |
| 09:29.18 | scanline | er |
| 09:29.20 | scanline | http://twistedmatrix.com/documents/howto/options |
| 09:29.37 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 09:30.01 | scanline | wow, the twisted folks are also really good at finding creepy cool ways to abuse python |
| 09:30.34 | scanline | this apparently walks up all superclasses of an option parser and concatenates together their options even though each subclass shadows its parent's options |
| 09:32.48 | darth_mall | I wish my sword sparked |
| 09:33.28 | purple_cow | it can, with only a tad bit of postprocessing |
| 09:42.13 | purple_cow | hmm, scanline, you don't have flash installed on omega |
| 09:42.24 | scanline | yep |
| 09:42.44 | purple_cow | you should ;) |
| 09:42.46 | CIA-5 | 11trunk/cia r081312 03micah: Factor out some common code for connecting to the CIA server via xmlrpclib and opening a key, make rebuild.py happy with this so it can load a capability key from disk. |
| 09:49.24 | darth_mall | scanline: why can't you be more like Geoffery Rush? |
| 10:03.11 | darth_mall | arg! |
| 10:03.18 | darth_mall | why can't I get my mind around how to do this! |
| 10:03.22 | darth_mall | it should be so simple |
| 10:04.00 | darth_mall | hmmm... I think I could use some tater tots |
| 10:10.07 | CIA-5 | 11trunk/sxmadb r081313 03jupiter: another |
| 10:10.56 | scanline | darth_mall: what are you working on? |
| 10:11.33 | darth_mall | scanline: same thing I've been working on all evening ^^ |
| 10:11.42 | darth_mall | parsing the XML and storing it as python objects |
| 10:11.50 | darth_mall | I think my brain got overloaded when we were talking |
| 10:12.05 | scanline | ah |
| 10:12.10 | darth_mall | I just can't seem to focus my thoughts in any kind of constructive direction |
| 10:13.00 | darth_mall | I get what I think is a good idea, start it, and very quickly reach a point where it's like: 'wait, here's something I hadn't thought of yet' |
| 10:13.08 | scanline | ahhh.. this is so cool. I can use grant_key to create a capability key that only allows editing the ruleset for #tacobeam, and soon I'll be able to feed that into ruleset_editor :) |
| 10:13.13 | darth_mall | then spend about 30 mins thinking about it, decide on a different way to do it |
| 10:13.18 | darth_mall | and start the process all over again |
| 10:13.20 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 10:13.32 | scanline | darth_mall: that's how design usually works.. easier than coding it up each time before throwing it away :) |
| 10:13.58 | darth_mall | yeah, I'm just getting aggravated because I feel like this should be really obvious |
| 10:15.01 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 10:15.10 | scanline | right now I'm using pickle to convert arbitrary python objects to database keys.. but that makes the flawed assumption that a particular python object will always yield the same pickle, which is very wrong |
| 10:15.33 | scanline | I could just write my own serializer for strings and tuples, which would be enough for now, but I really like the power of pickles |
| 10:16.07 | scanline | I just don't want CIA's security database to explode when the next version of python comes out and they optimize the pickler |
| 10:16.36 | darth_mall | mmmm... pickled python, that's tasty ^^ |
| 10:20.31 | scanline | oh hmm |
| 10:20.43 | scanline | I suppose I could use the repr() of an object for this rather than pickle |
| 10:24.57 | scanline | or.. I could do nothing. can't find anything in the 2.3 documentation that warns about one object being serializable in multiple ways, so it could be they have that fixed for any particular protocol version |
| 10:27.54 | CIA-5 | 11trunk/sxmadb r081314 03jupiter: yet more |
| 10:36.18 | purple_cow | hmm, it smells like tater tots |
| 10:36.23 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 10:43.21 | purple_cow | mmm, cerealization |
| 10:44.30 | darth_mall | rum! |
| 10:44.36 | darth_mall | we need more rum ^^ |
| 10:56.46 | darth_mall | oooh fish |
| 10:58.10 | scanline | arf.. already finding things mysteriously failing because of pickles serializing differently |
| 10:58.23 | darth_mall | =( |
| 10:59.30 | scanline | hah |
| 10:59.47 | scanline | hrm... |
| 10:59.48 | scanline | ']q\x01(U\x0bruleset.uriq\x02U\x0bstats://fooq\x03e.' |
| 10:59.52 | scanline | '(U\x0bruleset.uriq\x01U\x0bstats://fooq\x02tq\x03.' |
| 10:59.58 | scanline | both refer to the same object |
| 11:01.10 | scanline | hrm, bizarre |
| 11:01.30 | scanline | the first one stores the empty list to the memo then fills in, the second one fills the list then stores it to the memo |
| 11:01.50 | scanline | a little strange that the pickler would change its mind in the middle of the program |
| 11:02.10 | captain_proton | fuzzy logic :) |
| 11:02.13 | scanline | guess so |
| 11:11.29 | scanline | ooh... |
| 11:11.51 | scanline | I could still use the pickle format, but write my own pickler that guarantees a particular input always gives the same output |
| 11:12.57 | scanline | :) |
| 11:20.55 | captain_proton | mmm, resotron is such a beautiful tool |
| 11:21.13 | scanline | what's that? |
| 11:21.31 | captain_proton | the most powerful tool in our trouble queue system |
| 11:21.34 | captain_proton | blackholes a message =) |
| 11:21.43 | scanline | hehe |
| 11:24.03 | darth_mall | night kids |
| 11:24.42 | scanline | cool. pickler in 9 lines of code |
| 11:24.58 | scanline | supporting the amazing variety afforded by tuples and strings |
| 11:27.41 | captain_proton | scanline: is CIA on gimpnet broken? |
| 11:28.03 | captain_proton | oh, moderated but no voice |
| 11:28.11 | scanline | bah |
| 11:28.17 | scanline | guess someone +m'ed it again after I left |
| 11:28.22 | captain_proton | guesso |
| 11:31.52 | captain_proton | wow, all the escrima carrying cases suck |
| 11:32.32 | CIA-5 | 11trunk/cia r081315 03micah: Much cleanup in the client applications, fixed problems in LibCIA.Security caused by inconsistent pickles by writing a simple pickler used for converting capability identifiers into database keys. |
| 11:33.29 | captain_proton | mmm, inconsistent pickles |
| 11:35.15 | scanline | wahoo, it works |
| 11:38.09 | scanline | g'night |
| 11:38.33 | CIA-5 | 11trunk/cia/LibCIA r081316 03micah: oops, fix security.list() |
| 11:56.27 | CIA-5 | 11trunk/cia r081317 03micah: Give ruleset_editor an error dialog box |
| 12:00.58 | CIA-5 | 11trunk/cia r081318 03micah: Set 0600 permissions on the output file in grant_key.py |
| 12:08.13 | CIA-5 | 11trunk/cia/LibCIA r081319 03micah: Oops, remove debuggative cruft.. maybe I should get some sleep |
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| 12:38.55 | TD | scanline: i'm tempted to block gentoo and freebsd ports |
| 12:39.01 | TD | scanline: thoughts? |
| 12:47.22 | sbahra | TD: Could you elaborate on what you mean by "blocking" them? |
| 13:12.47 | TD | on CIA |
| 13:12.53 | TD | just dropping their "commit" messages |
| 13:13.25 | TD | basically because originally we had a rule against ports collections, on the grounds that they do not make for an interesting #commits channel |
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| 16:23.36 | gonkulator | hi file[laptop] |
| 16:30.05 | file[laptop] | sbahra: what's up? |
| 16:31.54 | sbahra | file[laptop]: V4F stuff. |
| 16:49.02 | file[laptop] | sbahra: fun? |
| 18:51.29 | lurgy|elsewhere | wow, slashdot should stop posting articles about KDE and GNO<E |
| 18:51.40 | lurgy|elsewhere | it's just too dangerous |
| 20:00.08 | file[laptop] | ........................................................................... |
| 20:08.45 | scanline | TD: I know several people including me like having gentoo on CIA |
| 20:09.02 | scanline | TD: if you really think they make too much noise, it would be easy to make a #commits-without-ports |
| 20:09.16 | TD | i'm not that bothered |
| 20:20.11 | ChipX86 | scanline: humor is lost on Paco-Paco |
| 20:20.22 | ChipX86 | unless you're insulting somebody |
| 20:20.24 | ChipX86 | in particular |
| 20:20.37 | scanline | I figured it would be, but I figured that it would be lost in a way that would be funny for me :) |
| 20:20.44 | ChipX86 | heh :) |
| 20:21.05 | ChipX86 | after hanging out with the gnome guys for awhile, I'm realizing more and more how horrible people treat the users in that channel |
| 20:22.08 | scanline | yeah |
| 20:22.28 | scanline | it seems like the whole thing is just a power trip for the arrogant developers that like to abuse users unnecessarily |
| 20:22.34 | ChipX86 | also, I don't see the gnome guys saying, "I'm a celebrity and the best looking person around, so you should treat me better." (something Sean said to a user the other day) |
| 20:22.39 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 20:22.50 | ChipX86 | for me, it's about the development of a product, but maybe that's why Sean and I can't get along |
| 20:23.06 | scanline | seems like the kind of guy not many people would get along with |
| 20:23.12 | ChipX86 | not many do |
| 20:23.17 | ChipX86 | which is why they've been coming to me instead of him |
| 20:23.39 | ChipX86 | nobody like that lasts in such a position for long. I suspect he'll be out of there eventually |
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| 20:25.57 | ChipX86 | I'm very tempted to setup a separate cvs repository for experimental gaim development |
| 20:29.48 | file[laptop] | ChipX86: do it, do it, do it! |
| 20:36.46 | scanline | hooray for ProxyPass and VHostMonster |
| 20:40.16 | TD | ChipX86: or arch |
| 20:40.22 | TD | ChipX86: have you played with arch or subversion? |
| 20:40.25 | ChipX86 | nope |
| 20:40.31 | TD | I might be able to provide hosting for either of those, not sure yet |
| 20:40.37 | TD | i need to move autopackage across to the new server soon |
| 20:41.04 | TD | ChipX86: hmm? |
| 20:41.07 | TD | ChipX86: which gnome guys |
| 20:41.20 | TD | ChipX86: i sit in #gnome and can't remember seeing people being particularly nasty |
| 20:41.28 | ChipX86 | that's the point |
| 20:41.29 | ChipX86 | #gaim is nasty |
| 20:41.31 | TD | well, jdub can be pretty nasty with people he's decided he doesn't like |
| 20:41.32 | ChipX86 | gnome guys aren't |
| 20:41.44 | TD | you need sleep, my friend ;) |
| 20:41.45 | TD | 14:21 < ChipX86> after hanging out with the gnome guys for awhile, I'm realizing more and more how horrible people treat the users in that channel |
| 20:41.51 | TD | 14:22 < ChipX86> also, I don't see the gnome guys saying, "I'm a celebrity and the best looking person around, so you should treat me better." (something Sean said to |
| 20:41.54 | TD | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:41.58 | ChipX86 | in the context of talking about #gaim |
| 20:42.00 | TD | i suspected it might be a thinko :) |
| 20:42.06 | ChipX86 | because Paco-Paco was being himself in #gaim |
| 20:42.07 | TD | yeah, but gaim guys aren't gnome guys |
| 20:42.13 | TD | Paco-Paco is sean? |
| 20:42.15 | ChipX86 | no |
| 20:42.34 | ChipX86 | I realize how horrible people treat the users in that channel (#gaim) because I've seen how the gnome guys treat people (which is better) |
| 20:42.38 | ChipX86 | made sense to me :) |
| 20:42.45 | ChipX86 | but then, I'm not all here today |
| 20:42.58 | TD | ahhh, i see |
| 20:43.08 | TD | sorry, yes, i misread what you said |
| 20:43.14 | TD | i'm the one who needs sleep :) no surprise... |
| 20:43.44 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 20:43.50 | ChipX86 | I got 11 hours of it last night.. I needed that, badly |
| 20:44.18 | CIA-5 | 11trunk/cia/htdocs r081320 03micah: Add a slightly more meaningful placeholder page to CIA's web server |
| 20:52.13 | TD | ChipX86: have you seen this "OSDN personals" thing? |
| 20:52.14 | TD | pretty funny |
| 20:52.27 | ChipX86 | nope |
| 20:52.28 | ChipX86 | url? |
| 20:53.12 | TD | http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1661&alloc_id=4321&site_id=5&request_id=6680023&1072598129 |
| 20:53.46 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 20:54.02 | ChipX86 | too bad it doesn't actually work |
| 20:54.16 | TD | oh |
| 20:54.20 | TD | well, i expect it does in the original |
| 20:54.34 | TD | ok, no it doesn't :) |
| 21:10.41 | sbahra | file[laptop]: Hrm...not so fun. |
| 21:21.39 | CIA-5 | 11trunk/cia/LibCIA r081321 03micah: Add some commentary about CIA's capabilities-like system |
| 21:24.05 | darth_mall | good morning all |
| 21:29.06 | darth_mall | you know, I rather enjoyed the soundtrack from FotR |
| 21:35.19 | sbahra | FoTR? |
| 21:35.23 | sbahra | LoTR? |
| 21:35.31 | darth_mall | yeh |
| 21:39.29 | darth_mall | hrm |
| 21:41.09 | darth_mall | scanline: how's the family? |
| 21:41.15 | darth_mall | are you being abducted soon? |
| 21:41.22 | scanline | family's fine |
| 21:41.28 | scanline | I'm probably going home tuesday |
| 21:41.31 | darth_mall | ok, good |
| 21:41.52 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 21:42.08 | scanline | I'm looking forward to seeing them, but would probably get bored if I went home any earlier |
| 21:42.25 | darth_mall | I think I'm probably gonna be heading home tomorrow afternoon |
| 21:47.14 | darth_mall | oh scanline ^^ |
| 21:47.18 | scanline | hm? |
| 21:47.20 | scanline | :( |
| 21:47.22 | darth_mall | you're mother has returned for your soul! |
| 21:47.22 | scanline | :) |
| 21:54.58 | captain_proton | yay i'm awake! |
| 22:01.29 | captain_proton | lynda says, "btw we saw LotR last night - it was great." |
| 22:01.29 | captain_proton | brad says, "Yea I saw it with my sis 2 days ago." |
| 22:01.29 | captain_proton | brad says, "managed to get through the whole thing with _no_ widdle breaks!" |
| 22:01.29 | captain_proton | brad says, "well, that was probably to much information..." |
| 22:01.29 | captain_proton | brad says, "anyway, I'm psyked to get all three extended DVD sets, and watch the entire epic all the way through. Got to be at least 10 hours of film |
| 22:01.31 | captain_proton | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:01.51 | darth_mall | bah |
| 22:02.01 | scanline | haha |
| 22:02.12 | darth_mall | hethens ^^ |
| 22:02.33 | ChipX86 | http://gunbound.net/down/game_down_01.asp |
| 22:02.36 | ChipX86 | this needs a linux version |
| 22:02.45 | scanline | yay, now CIA is also collecting stats on whether a message was received from sourceforge or not =) |
| 22:04.06 | darth_mall | neat |
| 22:04.10 | ChipX86 | my brothers are playing it |
| 22:04.11 | ChipX86 | it's cool |
| 22:05.00 | darth_mall | reminds me of Worms: Armageddon |
| 22:08.30 | captain_proton | ooh, RoD 16 |
| 22:08.53 | ChipX86 | RoD? |
| 22:09.04 | captain_proton | read or die |
| 22:09.06 | darth_mall | Read or Dei |
| 22:09.08 | ChipX86 | ah |
| 22:09.10 | darth_mall | what a wicked cool show |
| 22:09.13 | captain_proton | you should fetch the ova from navi and watch |
| 22:09.18 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 22:09.21 | captain_proton | after which, you should fetch the tv show from navi and watch |
| 22:09.23 | darth_mall | yay for books |
| 22:09.26 | captain_proton | :-o |
| 22:09.43 | ChipX86 | oh that's cool. I go to download a .exe file, and it asks if I want to open it in wine. Yay integration! |
| 22:10.02 | captain_proton | ChipX86: yeah, i saw that a month or so ago - creeped me out |
| 22:10.03 | captain_proton | :) |
| 22:10.09 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 22:10.13 | darth_mall | :) |
| 22:10.20 | darth_mall | yay WHR |
| 22:10.20 | ChipX86 | what's also cool is galeon thinks I was downloading at 1MB/sec |
| 22:10.22 | captain_proton | (how come nobody has 6-15? gr) |
| 22:10.25 | darth_mall | even cooler than RoD |
| 22:10.32 | darth_mall | =( |
| 22:13.30 | ChipX86 | scanline: I can't remember anymore.. how do I tell CIA to send commit messages to both #commits and to a channel I specify? |
| 22:13.44 | captain_proton | ChipX86: you bug scanline about it ;) |
| 22:13.47 | scanline | ChipX86: you ask me and I add a ruleset :) |
| 22:13.50 | ChipX86 | ahh |
| 22:13.53 | darth_mall | ChipX86: you have to give it flowers |
| 22:14.18 | scanline | ChipX86: the web interface for that isn't done yet.. and it's easier for me to do it right now than to get you to install ruleset_editor and give you a capability key for it |
| 22:14.26 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 22:14.26 | ChipX86 | ok |
| 22:14.39 | ChipX86 | I need orchard commits in #GNUpdate, and in time, galago, but that's not created yet |
| 22:15.26 | captain_proton | ChipX86: did you have anything written on galago yet? |
| 22:15.35 | captain_proton | (and have you looked at dbus?) |
| 22:15.35 | scanline | you want project name prefixes for those? |
| 22:15.53 | ChipX86 | scanline: those pretty much are the prefixes, unless they move to gnome cvs at some point |
| 22:16.06 | ChipX86 | captain_proton: not yet. I'm working on a write-up, but I've stopped so I can think about some implementation things |
| 22:16.09 | ChipX86 | I'm likely going dbus, I think |
| 22:16.10 | scanline | ChipX86: I mean, do you want the project name in bold before each message |
| 22:16.10 | darth_mall | arg, I'm gonna go play some video games |
| 22:16.20 | ChipX86 | oh, sure |
| 22:16.25 | captain_proton | ChipX86: so it would sit on top of dbus? |
| 22:16.25 | ChipX86 | that'd be good |
| 22:16.28 | scanline | on all of them, or just those two? |
| 22:16.32 | ChipX86 | captain_proton: maybe. Still lokoing into it |
| 22:16.36 | ChipX86 | scanline: just those two |
| 22:16.39 | scanline | k |
| 22:16.39 | captain_proton | =} |
| 22:16.49 | ChipX86 | yay for CIA :) |
| 22:17.00 | scanline | done |
| 22:17.10 | ChipX86 | woo |
| 22:17.12 | ChipX86 | thanks :) |
| 22:17.16 | scanline | yay for rulesets |
| 22:17.33 | scanline | hehe |
| 22:18.00 | scanline | ChipX86: you'll like this once I get the web interface working.. there's a simple language based on boolean algebra and XPath for filtering and formatting commit messages :) |
| 22:18.16 | ChipX86 | cool :) |
| 22:18.20 | scanline | well, actually for filtering and formatting any message and outputting it to any URI |
| 22:18.22 | ChipX86 | I read that as balloon algebra :( |
| 22:18.31 | scanline | there are itc:// URIs for the bots, and a stats:// URI that logs stuff |
| 22:18.39 | scanline | mmm, baloon algeber |
| 22:18.59 | captain_proton | i wish balloon algebra was a course |
| 22:19.15 | ChipX86 | that'd be cool |
| 22:19.37 | ChipX86 | aww, rml is moving his blog off advogato |
| 22:19.46 | ChipX86 | I think it's time for me to use one of those RSS happy things for news |
| 22:19.59 | captain_proton | darth_mall: we should go return videos & stuff, since i won't have a car tonight |
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| 22:22.20 | scanline | hmm.. so far 9 commits from sourceforge compared to 23 not from sourceforge |
| 22:24.21 | captain_proton | scanline: you know what would be tasty? |
| 22:24.36 | scanline | captain_proton: the bolivian navy on maneuvers in the south pacific? |
| 22:24.43 | captain_proton | exactly! |
| 22:26.49 | scanline | that's odd... |
| 22:26.57 | scanline | http://navi.picogui.org/cia goes right back to navi's index page |
| 22:27.05 | scanline | but http://navi.picogui.org/cia/ works fine |
| 22:27.14 | captain_proton | weird |
| 22:27.49 | ChipX86 | what's ICU? |
| 22:29.03 | sbahra | ChipX86: The medical term or something else? |
| 22:29.17 | captain_proton | in lieu of not having any coffee, /me resuscitates a donut with the magic of the microwave |
| 22:29.22 | ChipX86 | nope, has to do with linux in some fashion. These wine rpms support it, and I'm curious.. |
| 22:29.29 | ChipX86 | not that the wine rpms aren't horribly broken.. |
| 22:29.29 | scanline | hehe |
| 22:29.39 | ChipX86 | yay microwave! |
| 22:29.51 | scanline | ``The great thing about mod_rewrite is it gives you all the configurability and flexibility of Sendmail. The downside to mod_rewrite is that it gives you all the configurability and flexibility of Sendmail.'' |
| 22:29.59 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 22:30.35 | captain_proton | =D |
| 22:31.00 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:31.01 | scanline | :) |
| 22:31.40 | ChipX86 | ah, ICU is a unicode lib |
| 22:31.55 | scanline | yay, http://navi.picogui.org/yoshi does the same thing |
| 22:36.23 | ChipX86 | hrm, it.. kind of works.. |
| 22:36.34 | darth_mall | well, got tired of that nice and fast |
| 22:38.37 | darth_mall | captain_proton: I think lurgyman wants it |
| 22:38.53 | darth_mall | he really likes that movie, I tink |
| 22:38.56 | darth_mall | s/tink/think |
| 22:39.10 | captain_proton | scanline: since you want it, and your dvd drive is free... ;) |
| 22:39.14 | scanline | captain_proton: ok |
| 22:39.41 | scanline | wow |
| 22:39.45 | scanline | that was neat |
| 22:39.53 | scanline | <SeanEgan> scanline: it's a whole lot easier to /kick them then to hear 'i would but i don't know how to program at all except a little bit of vb.' over and over. |
| 22:39.54 | scanline | <scanline> well, maybe you should investigate what the gnome folks do about users.. I've heard it's quite humane |
| 22:39.54 | scanline | --- ChanServ gives channel operator status to SeanEgan |
| 22:39.54 | scanline | --- ChanServ gives channel operator status to LSchiere |
| 22:39.54 | scanline | --- You have been kicked from #gaim by SeanEgan (you're getting annoying.) |
| 22:40.38 | captain_proton | =/ |
| 22:41.06 | scanline | that was after a lot of trying to suggest they adopt the 'patches welcome' strategy of dispatching users with lame feature requests |
| 22:41.16 | captain_proton | erf, scanline, your 12 monkeys .rip is messed up |
| 22:41.28 | scanline | 'messed up' how? |
| 22:41.57 | scanline | ah |
| 22:42.22 | scanline | NFS was being cranky, so that and the TMBG stuff got ripped in my home directory then scp'ed |
| 22:42.43 | ChipX86 | scanline: I'm digging into them |
| 22:42.59 | scanline | heh |
| 22:43.12 | captain_proton | ok, looks like monkeys opens fine now (and you ripped the right track ;), so we're good on that one |
| 22:47.06 | captain_proton | it seems like nobody there knows the basic rule of "helping" users |
| 22:47.16 | ChipX86 | it sucks |
| 22:47.16 | captain_proton | if you're cranky, pretend to be idle |
| 22:48.29 | captain_proton | scanline: you should get that ripped, so we can return things |
| 22:51.55 | ChipX86 | I'm just not going in there for a long time |
| 22:53.34 | captain_proton | hooray #anime-one |
| 23:01.10 | captain_proton | darth_mall: we now have 16 as well ^^ |
| 23:03.04 | darth_mall | yay |
| 23:09.29 | ChipX86 | hah, my brother is actually upset with me because I can't run windows games on here |
| 23:18.04 | captain_proton | scanline: you should bug kris about the +m ;) |
| 23:18.26 | scanline | is he there? if not, email seemed to be the best way to bug him |
| 23:18.43 | captain_proton | he just voiced cia 10 minutes ago or so |
| 23:18.47 | scanline | ah |
| 23:18.48 | captain_proton | and he's not marked as away |
| 23:19.05 | captain_proton | because #commits is as neat a channel to talk in as any |
| 23:19.15 | captain_proton | seeing as how its often a random collection of developers from random projects |
| 23:19.42 | scanline | most of the time people are quiet, and when they do talk it's usually a good thing |
| 23:19.48 | scanline | at least in our #commits |
| 23:20.03 | captain_proton | there's not so much talk nowadays |
| 23:20.33 | captain_proton | yay |
| 23:21.41 | captain_proton | well, its -m for now |
| 23:21.53 | scanline | oh, so it is |
| 23:30.28 | captain_proton | scanline: done ripping? |
| 23:30.38 | scanline | ah, yep |
| 23:31.22 | captain_proton | someone care to accompany me on this journey? (if yes, we can fetch more cadfael) |
| 23:31.49 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 23:35.11 | scanline | captain_proton: is this to the library or blockbuster? |
| 23:35.25 | captain_proton | scanline: yes |
| 23:35.26 | sbahra | captain_proton: Sure, I'll go. |
| 23:35.37 | sbahra | captain_proton: Let me just change my cloth. Pick me up in 5 minutes please. |
| 23:35.47 | captain_proton | sbahra: sure |
| 23:36.39 | captain_proton | scanline: supposably there's a copy of vertigo on the shelf at the main branch ;) |