| 00:02.17 | darth_mall | gods, there isn't a single good person in this show, except Claudius |
| 00:02.26 | pagefault | hey darth_mall, file |
| 00:06.38 | darth_mall | oh no! |
| 00:06.41 | darth_mall | lurgyman went away |
| 00:17.02 | *** join/#tacobeam lalo (~lalo@200.102.125.44) |
| 00:19.49 | lalo | this topic is already old |
| 00:20.27 | *** topic/#tacobeam by lalo -> Sorry, your topic expired. Contact the sales department of TOPICS-4U if you want to acquire a new one. |
| 00:21.15 | darth_mall | yay lalo! |
| 00:22.02 | gonkulator | hey lalo |
| 00:22.06 | lalo | how is it happening? :-) |
| 00:22.46 | gonkulator | lalo: just chillin |
| 00:23.01 | gonkulator | hi darth_mall |
| 00:23.07 | gonkulator | darth_mall: will you be up for SC tonight? |
| 00:23.19 | darth_mall | gonkulator: not likely |
| 00:23.31 | gonkulator | well F*&K |
| 00:23.42 | darth_mall | shoulda been around last night =P |
| 00:23.45 | darth_mall | we played a few games |
| 00:23.53 | ChipX86 | you guys hear about ettore? |
| 00:23.57 | gonkulator | ChipX86: nope |
| 00:24.05 | ChipX86 | do you know who he is? |
| 00:24.24 | ChipX86 | or was |
| 00:27.39 | darth_mall | gonkulator: if I don't play tonight, try me tomorrow night |
| 00:27.47 | gonkulator | darth_mall: righto |
| 00:29.19 | file | 12/11/2003 11:38:00 AM ARRIVAL SCAN LACHINE, PQ CA |
| 00:30.17 | darth_mall | ugh, I don't want to go out tonight, it's too cold |
| 00:30.24 | lalo | file: what did you buy this time? :-) |
| 00:30.31 | file | lalo: 80GB ATA133 hardrive |
| 00:30.34 | file | brand new |
| 00:30.48 | darth_mall | naw, I should take the bus |
| 00:30.48 | lalo | neat |
| 00:30.54 | file | very |
| 00:31.39 | lalo | personally, I have sworrn not to buy IDE again, unless it's for a laptop or a cheap-o-box |
| 00:31.55 | darth_mall | oh? |
| 00:31.58 | lurgyman | oh? |
| 00:32.34 | file | oh? |
| 00:32.45 | lalo | oh? |
| 00:33.09 | file | OH! |
| 00:33.28 | file | updated again |
| 00:33.28 | file | 12/11/2003 7:30:00 PM UNLOAD SCAN LACHINE, PQ CA |
| 00:33.34 | file | was unloaded 3 minutes ago |
| 00:34.19 | file | it has 11 hours to get to me to get out for delivery |
| 00:34.32 | file | lurgyman: noooooooooooo |
| 00:35.43 | darth_mall | well, it's about time for me to head out |
| 00:35.46 | darth_mall | later everyone |
| 00:35.59 | lalo | cya |
| 00:36.03 | lurgyman | byebye |
| 00:36.15 | pf-lap | canada post is nice and slow |
| 00:37.00 | file | it was sent regular parcel according to the sticker |
| 00:37.07 | file | my stuff lastnight |
| 00:37.12 | file | but anyway, this hd is coming UPS |
| 00:37.37 | pf-lap | purolater was fast for me |
| 00:38.10 | file | yes Purolator is f-a-s-t |
| 00:38.22 | file | except when they miss their air schedules |
| 00:38.27 | pf-lap | took 2 days for my lappy to come from the US |
| 00:38.31 | file | then the package gets delayed... ugh |
| 00:39.39 | pf-lap | headphones are the only way to go on a laptop |
| 00:39.45 | pf-lap | the speakers just don't cut it |
| 00:40.11 | file | so true, so true |
| 00:41.09 | pf-lap | it took a while to get used to this mouse fingerpad thing |
| 00:41.14 | pf-lap | but I can use it really well now |
| 00:41.37 | file | pressure sensitivity always got me... |
| 00:41.50 | pf-lap | i've figured that out too |
| 00:42.04 | pf-lap | just takes practise |
| 00:42.08 | pf-lap | which laptop do you have?\ |
| 00:42.17 | file | I don't have one with that, my friend does |
| 00:42.24 | pf-lap | oh |
| 00:42.26 | file | he has an Acer Travelmate 800lci I think |
| 00:42.29 | pf-lap | what do you have? |
| 00:42.35 | file | I have a Thinkpad 560Z |
| 00:42.42 | pf-lap | nice |
| 00:43.09 | file | it serves me good |
| 00:43.54 | pf-lap | I have a dell inspiron 600m |
| 00:43.58 | file | once you have a laptop you never go back to just a regular desktop |
| 00:44.21 | file | cute |
| 00:44.35 | pf-lap | yeah I think my desktop is going to go through some neglect now |
| 00:44.37 | file | yuck... XP home |
| 00:44.46 | pf-lap | this is just so much more comfy sitting in bed |
| 00:44.53 | file | yup |
| 00:45.12 | pf-lap | I went with an XGA screen |
| 00:45.17 | pf-lap | rather than SXGA+ |
| 00:45.21 | pf-lap | seemed like too much for a 14.1" |
| 00:45.52 | file | aye |
| 00:45.53 | pf-lap | the other has a native resolution of 1400xsomething |
| 00:46.02 | pf-lap | that would be really insane to read text on |
| 00:46.07 | file | if you want a big screen, go back to your desktop |
| 00:46.13 | pf-lap | yeah |
| 00:46.15 | file | cost: $0 |
| 00:46.18 | file | ;) |
| 00:47.00 | pf-lap | the battery life is good on this |
| 00:47.03 | pf-lap | about 7 hours |
| 00:47.06 | pf-lap | with dual batteries |
| 00:47.50 | file | the centrino CPU really helps eh? |
| 00:47.57 | pf-lap | yeah a lot |
| 00:48.16 | pf-lap | was worth the extra money |
| 00:48.49 | file | I concur... centrino is worth it if you can get it |
| 00:49.04 | file | the 1MB of L2 cache is nice too |
| 00:49.07 | pf-lap | yeah |
| 00:49.12 | pf-lap | 1.4ghz is like a 2ghz P4 |
| 00:49.17 | pf-lap | what I have |
| 00:49.23 | file | yup |
| 00:50.01 | pf-lap | it's funny they don't use cpu ratings like AMD for the pentium m's |
| 00:51.31 | captain_proton | yay i'm home |
| 00:51.41 | pf-lap | welcome home |
| 00:51.44 | gonkulator | hmm... |
| 00:51.51 | gonkulator | it seems that I might be in the market for a new laptop soon |
| 00:52.02 | captain_proton | Number of Packages:4 |
| 00:52.02 | captain_proton | UPS Service:GROUND |
| 00:52.03 | captain_proton | Weight:113.0 LBS |
| 00:52.03 | captain_proton | =D |
| 00:52.13 | gonkulator | my brother wants an iBook, and so he might get mine, and I might get a new one |
| 00:52.17 | file | 113???? |
| 00:52.41 | file | captain_proton: what's the tracking #? |
| 00:52.47 | file | gonkulator: DDR? |
| 00:52.51 | gonkulator | captain_proton: I hope thats tastybite :) |
| 00:52.53 | lurgyman | captain_proton: it's here? |
| 00:52.53 | gonkulator | file: no |
| 00:53.00 | captain_proton | 1Z22AR590344351901 |
| 00:53.02 | gonkulator | file: I would order that and have it sent to my house, silly :) |
| 00:53.05 | captain_proton | lurgyman: it shipped |
| 00:53.13 | gonkulator | lurgyman: what is it, a new trombone? |
| 00:53.38 | file | it hasn't _actually_ shipped yet... technically |
| 00:54.10 | captain_proton | whatever |
| 00:54.25 | captain_proton | it means that it will be shipped within the next 24 hours |
| 00:54.34 | captain_proton | and arriving within the next week and a half or so |
| 00:54.37 | file | cool though |
| 00:54.53 | gonkulator | lurgyman: what is it? |
| 00:56.28 | captain_proton | soo |
| 00:56.29 | captain_proton | where did darth_mall go? |
| 00:56.48 | scanline | ooh neat.. I'm in the changelog for a bzflag release |
| 00:57.17 | captain_proton | you are? :) |
| 00:57.24 | zak | scanline: would you do kendra a favor and post stargate 102? |
| 00:57.28 | captain_proton | so you are |
| 00:57.31 | scanline | zak: post? |
| 00:57.32 | zak | since the first one is a twoparted |
| 00:57.46 | zak | put, so she can watch, or allow me to steal |
| 00:57.50 | zak | we aren't picky |
| 00:58.03 | captain_proton | zak: its a two-parter all combined into one |
| 00:58.04 | scanline | it isn't on navi? |
| 00:58.09 | zak | ooo |
| 00:58.10 | zak | kk |
| 00:58.12 | captain_proton | 101 has the entire thing |
| 00:58.20 | scanline | oh, cute |
| 00:58.46 | zak | weeee |
| 01:00.46 | captain_proton | w00t |
| 01:00.55 | captain_proton | the only thing in my tasks list is to renew library books |
| 01:00.55 | captain_proton | =D |
| 01:00.59 | captain_proton | =D =D =D |
| 01:01.00 | scanline | hehe |
| 01:01.03 | scanline | not going to your finals? |
| 01:01.11 | captain_proton | they're in my calendar, not tasks ;) |
| 01:01.14 | scanline | ah |
| 01:01.30 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 01:01.38 | gonkulator | captain_proton: darth_mall went to a study session |
| 01:01.54 | captain_proton | darth_mall: i forwarded a job opportunity to you |
| 01:02.00 | darth_mall | ooh neat |
| 01:02.35 | captain_proton | but you gotta hurry up with applying for it |
| 01:03.10 | darth_mall | where'd you forward it? |
| 01:03.51 | darth_mall | got it |
| 01:04.56 | scanline | hmm |
| 01:05.19 | scanline | I got my spring 2004 appointment for spacegrant today, and it has me working on CX plus a project I've never even heard of |
| 01:06.03 | darth_mall | oooh |
| 01:06.09 | darth_mall | new project |
| 01:06.19 | scanline | well, I dunno |
| 01:06.38 | scanline | could be a typo, could be a new name for an existing project :) |
| 01:06.45 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 01:06.54 | darth_mall | or an old name for a new project |
| 01:06.58 | darth_mall | ;) |
| 01:07.00 | scanline | or that |
| 01:07.52 | scanline | darth_mall: that message you forwarded me probably means that your dad's mail account is full |
| 01:08.29 | scanline | just for future reference, the important part of that mail is: |
| 01:08.31 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:08.31 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:09.14 | darth_mall | ohhh |
| 01:09.24 | darth_mall | I thought that postfix thing meant it didn't like att.worldnet.net |
| 01:09.28 | darth_mall | my bad |
| 01:09.55 | scanline | the whole thing just means that the postfix on navi got an error message from the remote server |
| 01:10.05 | scanline | and that line starting with 550 is the error message |
| 01:10.08 | darth_mall | ok |
| 01:10.53 | captain_proton | yay |
| 01:11.53 | scanline | hehe |
| 01:12.09 | lalo | hi scanline |
| 01:12.13 | scanline | hi lalo |
| 01:12.44 | scanline | grr |
| 01:12.53 | scanline | my amplifier has this funny habit of not turning on the left channel |
| 01:13.59 | file | phone... what's that? |
| 01:14.27 | lalo | plone |
| 01:14.40 | file | the sickness, it strikes me |
| 01:14.53 | lalo | the web-app-software-thingie that runs picogui.org and laranja.org and other neat sites ;-) |
| 01:15.03 | file | neat... really? NEAT? |
| 01:15.15 | scanline | ~tranquilize file |
| 01:15.37 | file | ooh... so tranquil... |
| 01:15.40 | captain_proton | damnit jbot, you used the wrong gun |
| 01:15.45 | scanline | hehe |
| 01:16.45 | darth_mall | just drop an anvil on him and be done with it |
| 01:17.26 | captain_proton | did you ever get the feeling you were about to be struck with a piano? |
| 01:17.45 | darth_mall | whenever I'm around lurgyman |
| 01:17.54 | darth_mall | lalo: danke |
| 01:18.18 | lalo | always glad to help. |
| 01:19.00 | lalo | I'd use the pianizer on my modem, if it weren't for the fact that slow internet is better than no internet, and therefore I love this modem so much *smooch smooch* |
| 01:20.12 | lalo | DUUUUUUUUUUUDE... 20 minutes to load a page, what's that? :-( |
| 01:21.12 | gonkulator | lalo: thats friggin sick |
| 01:23.11 | darth_mall | wish I'd brought my laptop |
| 01:23.32 | darth_mall | this sucks, and the Z is running out of batteries |
| 01:26.41 | file | why? |
| 01:26.52 | lalo | TA? |
| 01:26.55 | darth_mall | cuz I'd be good |
| 01:27.01 | file | teacher's assistant |
| 01:27.03 | darth_mall | lalo: teacher's aid |
| 01:27.08 | file | assistant, aid bleh |
| 01:27.16 | lalo | aha. |
| 01:27.25 | darth_mall | I'd be a lot better than most TAs |
| 01:27.39 | captain_proton | darth_mall: thats not hard. you speak english :) |
| 01:28.25 | captain_proton | so my last class today was neat |
| 01:28.45 | captain_proton | brad came in, asked for suggestions on the class in the future, thanked everybody and sent us home |
| 01:29.13 | file | why didn't he just e-mail y'all? |
| 01:29.24 | captain_proton | because we had a couple essays to turn in |
| 01:29.42 | file | fax, scan, mail! ;) |
| 01:29.43 | captain_proton | and the discussion that we had on suggestions was better than if it was all individual |
| 01:29.54 | file | online chatroom discussion! |
| 01:30.00 | captain_proton | pfft |
| 01:32.25 | scanline | captain_proton: http://navi.picogui.org/images/hardware/spacegrant/scope1.jpeg |
| 01:34.03 | scanline | hmm, this one shows the test setup pretty well |
| 01:34.05 | scanline | http://navi.picogui.org/images/hardware/spacegrant/rcpod4.jpeg |
| 01:34.49 | captain_proton | hey neat, my exam tomorrow is afternoon |
| 01:34.55 | scanline | bah! |
| 01:35.09 | scanline | they should outlaw 7:30 finals somehow... |
| 01:35.34 | captain_proton | uhhuh |
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| 01:37.13 | scanline | oh no, it's hardwire! |
| 01:38.07 | hardwire | hi |
| 01:38.14 | hardwire | accopmilshed |
| 01:38.29 | hardwire | killed 1 cisco router and 1 $4000 firewall |
| 01:38.34 | hardwire | *sigh* |
| 01:38.42 | hardwire | its a good day for selling shit |
| 01:38.43 | file | wth? what did you do |
| 01:38.50 | hardwire | just took it out of the loop |
| 01:39.01 | hardwire | My job out here right now is to do "cost reduction surgery" |
| 01:39.05 | file | oh ic |
| 01:39.10 | hardwire | so we are changing the sat system for st paul island to go to colorado |
| 01:39.15 | hardwire | then killing the three t1s |
| 01:39.20 | hardwire | getting dsl service for two places |
| 01:39.25 | hardwire | and dropping out some old PBX's |
| 01:39.41 | hardwire | and putting in $700 boxes that can interface with the phone systems .. and are powered buy lunix |
| 01:39.50 | hardwire | hi lalo |
| 01:39.56 | hardwire | I wish I had a plone question.. |
| 01:39.58 | hardwire | but I don't |
| 01:39.59 | hardwire | damnit |
| 01:40.07 | lalo | hahaha |
| 01:40.20 | lalo | I already did plone support today, thanks :-) |
| 01:40.56 | lalo | but just so that you don't lose the night, plone2.0 is rocking blocks. |
| 01:41.04 | hardwire | well |
| 01:41.07 | hardwire | is it massively faster? |
| 01:41.18 | hardwire | cause I need to set up a photo gallery site for my G/F and I |
| 01:41.26 | hardwire | and migrate hardwire.bogomip.com over to it |
| 01:41.27 | lalo | no, just hugely faster. |
| 01:41.41 | hardwire | good.. I don't mind hugely |
| 01:42.00 | lalo | there's still a few tortoises to bake before we achieve "massively" |
| 01:42.22 | scanline | yikes |
| 01:42.28 | scanline | the list price on this scope is $1795 |
| 01:42.30 | hardwire | quit cooking turtles |
| 01:42.59 | lalo | tortoises, man! :-D |
| 01:43.00 | scanline | whoa |
| 01:43.07 | scanline | some on ebay for only $800 :) |
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| 01:45.57 | scanline | one of these on ebay comes with the measurement extension module, for FFTs :) |
| 01:46.01 | *** join/#tacobeam lalo_ (~lalo@200.102.125.44) |
| 01:46.19 | lalo | lalo_: DUDE!!! GET OUT!!! |
| 01:46.52 | lalo | damn gtk2. |
| 01:47.01 | lalo | damn software in general. |
| 01:48.46 | lalo | and considering the size of my nose that's quite a threat indeed. The japanese keep bothering me to license the rights for them to make one of those monster movies. |
| 01:49.33 | scanline | hah! |
| 01:49.34 | scanline | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2580438845&category=45007 |
| 01:52.28 | gonkulator | hi file |
| 01:53.01 | scanline | "This auction is for a used Tektronix 214 storage oscilloscope. I bought this on a estate auction along with a bunch of electronics and don`t have a clue on how to run it. I plugged it in. It will make a dot on the screen that will move side to side. And one dial will make it move up and down. I can get the red ready light to come on" |
| 01:53.24 | lurgyman | heh |
| 01:53.27 | lalo | hahahahahahahahahahahaha |
| 01:54.16 | lalo | "and there is this little button that makes the whole thing blow up. I know because I originaly bought three of them. This one I'm selling has said button covered with tape." |
| 01:54.26 | scanline | hehe |
| 01:54.48 | lalo | people are amazingly fearless of blindly expermenting with electronic equipment |
| 01:55.05 | scanline | mmyep |
| 01:55.47 | lalo | where was it that I read about a dude that plays pong on the oscilloscope? |
| 01:55.48 | scanline | whoa |
| 01:55.52 | scanline | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2580519134&category=45014 |
| 01:56.03 | lalo | I'd quite like to remember how it's done |
| 01:57.29 | lalo | dude, why is it that today I have the word "dude" stuck in my head? |
| 01:57.49 | lurgyman | dunno, dude |
| 01:57.51 | lurgyman | :p |
| 01:57.57 | lalo | I don't even like it :-/ |
| 01:58.20 | lalo | perhaps I'm developing linguistic split personality |
| 01:58.40 | lurgyman | hehe |
| 01:59.31 | lalo | this thing of speaking one language in the day and another in the night gets to you brain |
| 02:00.01 | lurgyman | hehe |
| 02:00.21 | lalo | non! |
| 02:00.58 | lalo | sil vous plait, non c'est soir |
| 02:01.15 | lurgyman | non, j'ai plein des cacahuettes, parce-que la giraffe d'Allemagne va me frappe ce soir |
| 02:01.15 | scanline | wow... this Protek P-3850 looks really amazing |
| 02:02.20 | lurgyman | mmmm |
| 02:03.35 | lalo | this is one of those times I wish I could speak chinese. |
| 02:05.08 | lalo | I can use roman characters :-) |
| 02:05.38 | lalo | mandarin looks strange enough even in roman characters |
| 02:10.30 | lalo | not that there is a reasonable chance I'll find one in this town... still... won't hurt to try |
| 02:12.45 | gonkulator | hey darth_mall |
| 02:12.49 | darth_mall | hi |
| 02:13.13 | gonkulator | and you know what would help fix me |
| 02:13.31 | darth_mall | a wack in the head |
| 02:13.34 | darth_mall | >=) |
| 02:13.46 | gonkulator | uhm... |
| 02:13.56 | gonkulator | if its in a starcraft map |
| 02:14.00 | gonkulator | than yes :) |
| 02:14.26 | darth_mall | s/today/to do/ |
| 02:14.32 | gonkulator | ok |
| 02:16.52 | gonkulator | captain_proton: what just got shipped? |
| 02:17.38 | gonkulator | ok, I guess that means I'll just wait for it to show up then |
| 02:17.55 | darth_mall | captain_proton: might I examine your resume? |
| 02:18.19 | captain_proton | http://navi/~jupiter/resume.pdf |
| 02:18.27 | darth_mall | danke |
| 02:18.49 | scanline | hmm, that looks a lot like mine |
| 02:19.07 | gonkulator | darth_mall: http://ion.picogui.org/resume.doc <---abiword will open it |
| 02:19.08 | captain_proton | scanline: yup |
| 02:19.49 | scanline | apparently spacegrant is posting people's resumes on their site now and pointing corporate-type-people at them |
| 02:19.56 | darth_mall | gonkulator: nothing installed to look at it =\ |
| 02:20.06 | gonkulator | darth_mall: ah, ok |
| 02:20.14 | lalo | perhaps I should reconnect, hmm |
| 02:20.46 | captain_proton | darth_mall: just to know, its best to keep it to 1 page, unlike gonkulator's ;) |
| 02:20.50 | lurgyman | hmm |
| 02:20.53 | lurgyman | telyphone.... |
| 02:21.12 | lurgyman | darth_mall: yay for no word processey gadgets! |
| 02:22.50 | gonkulator | there, http://ion.picogui.org/resume.pdf |
| 02:23.03 | lalo | yes, reconnect it is. BRB |
| 02:23.03 | lurgyman | hehe |
| 02:23.21 | gonkulator | captain_proton: mine is one page, look at the PDF |
| 02:23.47 | captain_proton | hmm, thats not how it showed up in abiword |
| 02:23.50 | captain_proton | was about 1.5pgs |
| 02:24.01 | gonkulator | odd that |
| 02:24.08 | gonkulator | well, the PDF is one page |
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| 02:26.44 | gonkulator | wb lalo |
| 02:29.17 | captain_proton | ugh, all the ximian folks are dying :( |
| 02:30.43 | *** join/#tacobeam Fnordine (~chatzilla@200.216.97.84) |
| 02:30.59 | Fnordine | hellooooooooo, ppl ^^ |
| 02:31.04 | lalo | hey :-) |
| 02:31.16 | Fnordine | hiya, Docinho ^^ |
| 02:31.42 | gonkulator | Fnordine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 02:31.49 | lalo | how was the trip? |
| 02:31.54 | gonkulator | wait |
| 02:31.56 | Fnordine | lalo: what are you doing? |
| 02:31.56 | gonkulator | yes :) |
| 02:32.24 | Fnordine | lalo: except for a drunken boston guy, the trip was fine... |
| 02:32.30 | lalo | Fnordine: trying to fix our cmfboard and trying to pack up some missing configure scripts for picogui |
| 02:32.38 | lalo | boston? |
| 02:33.01 | Fnordine | yeah. the most stupid guy I've met |
| 02:33.19 | scanline | Hi Maisa :) |
| 02:33.28 | scanline | yay, resume updated a tiny bit... http://navi.picogui.org/svn/misc/trunk/docs/resume/micah_dowty_resume.pdf |
| 02:33.33 | Fnordine | Hi, scanline, gonkey ^^ |
| 02:33.40 | lalo | tough call ;-) you've met some pretty stupid people in the past |
| 02:34.05 | lalo | have you seen our site? please tell me if it's as slow as it seems |
| 02:34.35 | Fnordine | lalo: dont know how to say it exactly in english... but he was *very* annoying!!! |
| 02:34.46 | Fnordine | lalo: going |
| 02:35.38 | Fnordine | yawn |
| 02:36.11 | file | gonkulator: I just called UPS and verified, no COD coming with my HD - yahoo! |
| 02:36.22 | gonkulator | file: cool |
| 02:36.24 | lalo | Fnordine: I thought you would use "bux" :-) |
| 02:36.37 | gonkulator | hopefully they come in soon |
| 02:36.40 | Fnordine | oh! ^^ ok. |
| 02:36.43 | file | gonkulator: UPS? |
| 02:36.55 | gonkulator | file: I have no idea what the tracking number is |
| 02:37.01 | file | gonkulator: that sux :( |
| 02:37.03 | Buxinha | lalo mhauwhauhwuawhawu ;) |
| 02:37.03 | gonkulator | file: they never told me, I just track it through their page |
| 02:37.22 | lalo | Buxinha: you do know this is *ugly* ;-) |
| 02:37.34 | Buxinha | mhuwhawuhawu yeah |
| 02:38.23 | Fnordy | ok ^^ thats cute |
| 02:39.00 | Fnordy | lalo: the site is slow, but its cool |
| 02:39.29 | file | there must be a temporal anomaly in my room cause this pop is warm and it tastes flat... but I just got it a wee bit ago |
| 02:39.34 | Fnordy | lalo: you need something from me? have something to say? |
| 02:40.10 | Fnordy | damn, my english is RUSTY |
| 02:40.13 | lalo | yes... I'll jump over to private query |
| 02:42.49 | *** topic/#tacobeam by gonkulator -> nose nuggets |
| 02:43.09 | darth_mall | hi Fnordy |
| 02:43.39 | *** topic/#tacobeam by scanline -> gonkulator is not allowed to change the topic |
| 02:43.52 | darth_mall | rofl |
| 02:44.04 | gonkulator | what? |
| 02:44.11 | darth_mall | roflmao |
| 02:44.14 | darth_mall | poor gonkulator ^^ |
| 02:46.23 | *** topic/#tacobeam by lalo -> you can change the topic, but you can't change the subject. Or vice-versa. |
| 02:46.54 | file | "The topic has you." |
| 02:47.01 | *** topic/#tacobeam by scanline -> you can pick your friends, and you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your friend's IRC topic |
| 02:47.14 | darth_mall | rofl |
| 02:47.25 | file | tee he he |
| 02:47.53 | darth_mall | 'people in glass houses sink ships' |
| 02:48.22 | lalo | that's a good one :-) |
| 02:48.57 | file | that reminds me of a book where there was a house built upon a rock... and the rock had a field around it that sped up time |
| 02:49.09 | file | I dunno why, but it does |
| 02:49.13 | darth_mall | ~fishslap file |
| 02:49.16 | | ACTION slaps file up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 02:49.25 | gonkulator | file: singularity? |
| 02:49.37 | file | gonkulator: yes |
| 02:51.52 | gonkulator | its soooo funny |
| 02:55.47 | file | gonkulator: I'm watching it as well, I wonder if we are watching the same one |
| 02:55.56 | file | Trevor Makely? |
| 02:56.34 | gonkulator | file: nose nuggest? |
| 02:56.37 | gonkulator | nuggets even |
| 02:56.49 | file | impact replay? |
| 02:56.55 | file | are you all right, you hit your nose so hard |
| 02:56.58 | file | a snoogie? |
| 02:57.03 | file | I see something in there, a snoogie |
| 02:57.05 | gonkulator | yeah, we're seeing the same one |
| 02:57.08 | file | cool |
| 02:57.30 | file | I always wonder how much that hurts |
| 02:58.26 | captain_proton | is that the scary japanese show on spike? |
| 02:58.35 | file | yes |
| 02:59.05 | captain_proton | darth_mall: i'm performing evil rituals |
| 03:00.10 | darth_mall | ooooooh |
| 03:00.13 | darth_mall | on scanline? |
| 03:00.16 | captain_proton | no |
| 03:00.21 | captain_proton | don't worry, they won't ruin the carpet |
| 03:00.23 | captain_proton | =) |
| 03:00.35 | darth_mall | good |
| 03:00.41 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 03:00.53 | darth_mall | speaking of ruining the carpet... I could use some coffee |
| 03:01.19 | captain_proton | heh |
| 03:02.34 | captain_proton | scanline: :( |
| 03:02.37 | zak | scanline: you still awake? |
| 03:02.53 | zak | i should remove that thingy from my webpage |
| 03:02.57 | zak | i don't know how |
| 03:03.39 | *** topic/#tacobeam by zak -> you can pick your friends, and you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your friend's IRC topic || can too.. || |
| 03:04.04 | *** topic/#tacobeam by captain_proton -> you can pick your friends, and you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your friend's IRC topic || can too.. || i demand that you can't! |
| 03:04.25 | *** topic/#tacobeam by zak -> you can pick your friends, and you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your friend's IRC topic || can too.. || i demand that you can't! || watch me! |
| 03:05.07 | *** topic/#tacobeam by gonkulator -> you can pick your friends, and you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your friend's IRC topic || can too.. || i demand that you can't! || watch me! || nose nuggets |
| 03:05.07 | scanline | zak: just delete the file |
| 03:05.13 | zak | ah ok |
| 03:05.19 | captain_proton | mmm |
| 03:05.24 | captain_proton | yay for yes concept albums |
| 03:05.54 | zak | scanline: i can't |
| 03:06.03 | gonkulator | night scq |
| 03:06.05 | zak | oh well |
| 03:06.07 | scanline | zak: what are you trying? |
| 03:06.07 | gonkulator | scanline even |
| 03:06.11 | lalo | night scanline |
| 03:06.15 | zak | rm Nightwish |
| 03:06.16 | gonkulator | zak: delete the slash from the end of the filename |
| 03:06.19 | gonkulator | er, the end of the link |
| 03:06.25 | gonkulator | when you use rm |
| 03:06.59 | zak | k, thanks |
| 03:07.02 | zak | all gone |
| 03:07.05 | scanline | yay |
| 03:07.06 | lurgyman | hurray |
| 03:07.07 | scanline | sleep time then |
| 03:07.21 | lurgyman | nooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 03:08.23 | scanline | yay, alarm set to 4:30 :P |
| 03:08.44 | captain_proton | ew |
| 03:08.56 | scanline | almost 8.5 hours of sleep still :) |
| 03:09.03 | gonkulator | captain_proton: I have been waking up earlier than that since monday, without the help of an alarm |
| 03:09.04 | zak | poor scanline |
| 03:09.33 | captain_proton | gonkulator: thats what happens when you go to bed at 5 |
| 03:09.41 | scanline | zak: bah, nothing bad about it really... I get sleep, I have time for a little studying (don't think I'll need much) and I get to go to sleep right away :) |
| 03:09.52 | scanline | anyway, /me poings to sleep |
| 03:09.59 | gonkulator | because I wake up early |
| 03:10.04 | gonkulator | its a nasty cycle |
| 03:11.47 | gonkulator | anyway, I should sleep soon too |
| 03:12.07 | gonkulator | yay for being done with the semester |
| 03:14.43 | *** topic/#tacobeam by zak -> Ego-wise, two things are important to engineers: how smart they are and how many cool devices they own. |
| 03:15.24 | gonkulator | aw... zak wiped out "nose nuggets" |
| 03:15.35 | darth_mall | what a shame =P |
| 03:15.42 | gonkulator | hehehe |
| 03:15.49 | gonkulator | :) |
| 03:18.55 | file | I declare a thumb war! |
| 03:29.01 | darth_mall | wait |
| 03:29.04 | darth_mall | haven't you said that before? |
| 03:29.18 | gonkulator | yep :) |
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| 03:36.35 | darth_mall | well, that's done |
| 03:37.48 | captain_proton | ~fishslap gonkulator |
| 03:37.50 | | ACTION slaps gonkulator up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 03:39.20 | darth_mall | gonkulator: what are you talking about? |
| 03:39.29 | gonkulator | darth_mall: philosophy |
| 03:39.46 | gonkulator | darth_mall: Kant uses the word "ought" a lot in contrast with the word "should" |
| 03:40.06 | gonkulator | its how he distinguised between the categorical imperativeand the hypothetical imperative |
| 03:41.35 | darth_mall | s/of/to/ |
| 03:43.32 | lalo | ~fishslap Kant |
| 03:43.34 | | ACTION slaps Kant up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 03:44.10 | captain_proton | wow, advogato is lagging hard |
| 03:45.55 | lurgyman | captain_proton: did you see the amazon.com link earlier? |
| 03:53.17 | captain_proton | lurgyman: i think so |
| 04:03.31 | lurgyman | captain_proton: with allegro non troppo? |
| 04:03.36 | lurgyman | darth_mall: clavdivs? |
| 04:03.40 | lurgyman | hmm |
| 04:15.23 | Cae|Sleep | ah, the joy of geology. |
| 04:15.42 | Cae|Away | I'll just leave it as that. |
| 04:15.47 | gonkulator | later Cae|Away |
| 04:15.55 | Cae|Away | since I'm kind of nonexistent for the next week |
| 04:16.59 | gonkulator | good luck Cae|Away |
| 04:17.54 | Cae|Away | danke. |
| 04:18.47 | lalo | hi Cae. |
| 04:19.14 | Cae|Away | hey |
| 04:19.15 | lalo | or rather hello-goodbye :-) |
| 04:19.57 | Cae|Away | heh, yeah |
| 04:31.02 | ChipX86 | hey Cae |
| 04:31.04 | ChipX86 | good luck |
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| 04:43.17 | file | g'night folks |
| 04:43.47 | lalo | nite |
| 05:58.34 | lurgyman | houya |
| 05:58.37 | lurgyman | Cae|Away: how go finals? |
| 06:00.28 | zak | stupid itll closing |
| 06:00.32 | lurgyman | :( |
| 06:00.37 | lurgyman | well |
| 06:00.41 | zak | but yea for asr's running around the itll with candy! |
| 06:00.43 | lurgyman | sleep is good, 'round finals time |
| 06:00.46 | lurgyman | hehe |
| 06:01.39 | zak | this is true and i will sleep soon, i refuse to be sleep deprived again |
| 06:02.32 | gonkulator | my body clock is fixing itself |
| 06:03.01 | zak | gonkulator: go to sleeo |
| 06:03.01 | merlin{landing} | hey gonkulator! |
| 06:03.10 | zak | s/sleeo/sleep |
| 06:03.12 | gonkulator | zak: how come? |
| 06:03.19 | zak | why not |
| 06:03.23 | zak | sleep is good |
| 06:03.40 | gonkulator | right, and I want to be asleep at 6:00 AM tomorrow |
| 06:03.50 | gonkulator | if I goto sleep now,that won't be the case tomorrow |
| 06:04.10 | zak | meh |
| 06:04.11 | gonkulator | howdy merlin{landing} |
| 06:04.32 | lurgyman | yay for zak getting sleep! |
| 06:04.47 | lurgyman | ooh |
| 06:04.51 | zak | lol, no kidding...but yea also for clean clothes |
| 06:05.20 | lurgyman | zak: got finals tomorrow? |
| 06:05.26 | zak | lurgyman: nope, phew |
| 06:05.29 | zak | monday |
| 06:05.55 | lurgyman | :) |
| 06:06.31 | zak | we will be in the itll most of the day if you wish to join us, part of it will be aero stuff, but mostly we are keeping each other company away from distractions like computers and reading books |
| 06:06.57 | lurgyman | myep |
| 06:06.58 | lurgyman | we'll see |
| 06:07.40 | gonkulator | lurgyman: good luck :) |
| 06:07.48 | zak | lurgyman: yes, good luck |
| 06:08.48 | lurgyman | thanks :) |
| 06:09.03 | lurgyman | :D |
| 06:09.17 | gonkulator | lurgyman: it will feel really good when that final is over |
| 06:09.24 | lurgyman | sure will |
| 06:09.52 | gonkulator | which is a bummer |
| 06:10.00 | gonkulator | because I'll wake up in 6 or so hours... |
| 06:10.33 | gonkulator | anyway, get lots of sleep everyone |
| 06:10.37 | gonkulator | night zak and lurgyman |
| 06:11.33 | lurgyman | :) night gonkulator |
| 06:11.34 | lurgyman | sleep well |
| 06:11.46 | gonkulator | thanks :) |
| 06:13.57 | zak | g'night all |
| 06:14.28 | lalo | night everyone that is poofifying |
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| 06:16.10 | gonkulator | ok, I have to wake up for just a bit now |
| 06:16.13 | gonkulator | probe: how the hell are you |
| 06:16.24 | probe | gonkulator, I'm great... you? |
| 06:16.34 | gonkulator | probe: glad to be done for a while |
| 06:20.10 | zak | captain_proton: poke |
| 06:20.28 | captain_proton | mmm, fantastical song |
| 06:20.43 | zak | how do i play haibane in japanese on mplayer? |
| 06:20.58 | captain_proton | mplayer -aid 2 file.ogm |
| 06:21.06 | captain_proton | it may or may not do subtitles, depending on the setup |
| 06:21.25 | captain_proton | showing someone else? |
| 06:21.59 | zak | no, me |
| 06:22.07 | zak | i just feel like watching 7 |
| 06:22.25 | zak | if you are up for it, i'll come over there, otherwise i'll watch here |
| 06:22.40 | captain_proton | sure |
| 06:33.04 | lurgyman | "My Uncle the conductor was guest conductor for a mediocre orchestra last week. He had been having problems with their basses; they were the least professional of the musicians. It was the last performance of the season, Beethoven's 9th Symphony, which required extra effort from the basses at the end. Earlier that evening, my Uncle found the basses celebrating one of their birthdays by passing a bottle around. He was about to cue the basses whe |
| 06:33.04 | lurgyman | n he knocked over his music stand and scattered the sheet music. As he stood in front of his orchestra, his worst fear was realized; it was the bottom of the 9th, no score and the basses were loaded." |
| 06:43.44 | lurgyman | mmmmm |
| 06:43.46 | lurgyman | shostakovich |
| 06:44.32 | ChipX86 | why is my m4 suddenly b0rked? |
| 06:45.02 | lurgyman | terrorists |
| 06:45.08 | ChipX86 | aww, not again! |
| 06:45.45 | lurgyman | yep |
| 06:45.47 | ChipX86 | it breaks on strings |
| 06:45.55 | ChipX86 | I can't compile things that I compiled earlier |
| 06:46.14 | lurgyman | m4 is what our president is trying to save by invading as many countries as he can think of |
| 06:46.33 | lurgyman | it's a good thing his dad only taught him the names of a few countries in the middle east |
| 06:51.12 | captain_proton | mmm, good show |
| 06:51.25 | lurgyman | captain_proton: hmm... i think mediagw may be b0rked |
| 06:51.55 | lurgyman | ah |
| 06:52.00 | lurgyman | may need the setuid bit set |
| 06:52.29 | captain_proton | shit, m4 is the liberty, happiness and the american way of life? |
| 06:52.31 | captain_proton | i never knew |
| 06:52.47 | lurgyman | indeed |
| 06:52.54 | lurgyman | it's a well-guarded secret |
| 06:52.59 | captain_proton | umm, no setuid |
| 06:53.00 | captain_proton | sudo it |
| 06:53.05 | lurgyman | ah |
| 06:54.34 | lurgyman | er |
| 06:54.37 | lurgyman | shostakovich 7 |
| 06:54.40 | captain_proton | . o O (/navi/media/audio/groups/Yes/master_of_dream/09_let_go_the_more_we_live.mp3) |
| 06:54.50 | zak | lurgyman: we both suck at the going to sleep thing |
| 06:54.58 | lurgyman | zak: yes :( |
| 06:55.31 | lurgyman | yikes, it's about midnight |
| 06:56.36 | captain_proton | yay, only 2 more macgyvers to get |
| 06:58.44 | captain_proton | neat |
| 06:59.08 | lurgyman | the one we have now sounds kind of tinny :/ |
| 06:59.17 | lurgyman | looks like Haitink |
| 07:00.25 | lurgyman | maybe he can take the last movement down at a respectable tempo ;) |
| 07:00.26 | captain_proton | ooh, kenpo belt exams tomorrow night |
| 07:00.30 | captain_proton | that's gonna be a blast |
| 07:07.18 | lurgyman | heh |
| 07:10.27 | captain_proton | 'night |
| 07:17.10 | captain_proton | *gasp* |
| 07:17.14 | captain_proton | no inkscape in portage |
| 08:14.06 | captain_proton | hehe, i love scott adams |
| 08:14.10 | captain_proton | If you're following the news, you know that the major religions differ in their interpretation of the holy books. For example, one way to interpret God's will is that you should love your neighbor. An alternate reading of the holy books might lead you to rig a donkey cart with small mortar rockets and aim it at a hotel full of infidels. In summary, po-tay-to, poh-tah-to. Religions are very flexible, and that's a loophole that the DNRC sh |
| 08:14.11 | captain_proton | ould exploit, especially during the holiday season. |
| 08:14.47 | lalo | cya ppl |
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| 12:12.05 | scanline | ahhhhhhhh |
| 12:12.13 | scanline | that's the best shower I've had in a long time |
| 13:26.23 | darth_mall | ugh for being up this early |
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| 13:58.41 | darth_mall | well, off to the first final |
| 14:00.02 | sbahra | GOOD LCUCKL!!K! |
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| 15:25.52 | lurgyman | and scanline :) |
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| 15:43.01 | gonkulator | wahooooo! |
| 15:43.09 | gonkulator | my DDR dance pads come in today :) |
| 15:43.39 | gonkulator | ok, time for breakfast |
| 15:47.38 | sbahra | lol |
| 16:00.53 | scanline | wheebie |
| 16:01.38 | scanline | I had to derive a couple things I hadn't memorized, but all my answers made sense :) |
| 16:03.57 | lurgyman | hehe |
| 16:03.59 | lurgyman | yay |
| 16:04.01 | lurgyman | mornin scanline |
| 16:05.04 | scanline | mornin |
| 16:12.28 | sbahra | Hey scanline, lurgyman |
| 16:12.49 | scanline | hiya |
| 16:17.51 | scanline | ah, drat... |
| 16:18.14 | scanline | the TX DAC code is also too slow to do all at once |
| 16:18.19 | scanline | will have to break that up into a state machine |
| 16:21.17 | lurgyman | mornin sbahra |
| 16:24.41 | darth_mall | well, glad that's over |
| 16:25.36 | scanline | yay, darth_mall is back |
| 16:25.40 | lurgyman | hurray |
| 16:25.42 | lurgyman | how'd it go? |
| 16:25.57 | darth_mall | I can never tell with this prof |
| 16:26.07 | darth_mall | he's really good at writing multiple choice exams |
| 16:26.20 | darth_mall | I feel pretty confident |
| 16:26.36 | darth_mall | but that doesn't mean much |
| 16:26.42 | darth_mall | because he's really good at tricking people |
| 16:26.44 | darth_mall | morning ChipX86 |
| 16:26.48 | ChipX86 | morning |
| 16:27.02 | lurgyman | ah |
| 16:27.04 | lurgyman | well |
| 16:27.11 | lurgyman | hopefully you did well then :) |
| 16:27.22 | darth_mall | but the good news is, I got an interview for that job in the DLC |
| 16:28.20 | lurgyman | hurray! |
| 16:31.47 | lurgyman | wow |
| 16:35.14 | scanline | ooh neat |
| 16:35.26 | scanline | darth_mall will soon be part of the big happy family that is the DLC |
| 16:37.08 | scanline | w00t... this rewrite of the analog sampling code seems to be working, and it's all fast and multitasking-happy |
| 16:39.36 | scanline | although I think I need to tweak the aquisition timing |
| 16:40.41 | darth_mall | scanline: maybe |
| 16:40.43 | darth_mall | haven't got the job yet |
| 16:41.00 | scanline | but you will soon have it |
| 16:41.10 | darth_mall | there you are |
| 16:41.19 | darth_mall | gonkulator: how 'bout that game of SC? |
| 16:41.26 | gonkulator | darth_mall: right now :) |
| 16:41.28 | darth_mall | scanline: mebbe |
| 16:41.34 | darth_mall | gonkulator: right now ^^ |
| 16:41.40 | gonkulator | w00t, hot damn and YES |
| 16:41.43 | darth_mall | kk |
| 16:41.47 | darth_mall | pony/west |
| 16:41.49 | gonkulator | darth_mall: give me a minute or two to get set up |
| 16:41.51 | gonkulator | but yeah |
| 16:41.54 | gonkulator | I'll be there |
| 16:42.12 | file | whoever is driving needles into my temples will they please stop? |
| 16:44.12 | gonkulator | file: my DDR dance pads come in today :) |
| 16:45.12 | darth_mall | it's so much nicer to use gaim then AOL's client |
| 16:45.18 | darth_mall | hehe, itunes for windows |
| 16:47.55 | kergoth | morning |
| 16:58.45 | zak | lurgyman, captain_proton, scanline (?), and anyone else with finals today: good luck |
| 16:59.05 | lurgyman | thanksky |
| 16:59.08 | lurgyman | heading up to campus soon? |
| 17:01.05 | lurgyman | ooh |
| 17:01.20 | lurgyman | ptb^ has what must be practically all the shostakovich ever written |
| 17:01.48 | lurgyman | we need ALL of it >:D |
| 17:08.36 | scanline | zak: already had mine :) |
| 17:10.21 | lurgyman | rofl |
| 17:10.24 | lurgyman | what a great spam subject line |
| 17:10.32 | lurgyman | "Tired of dealing with idiots? We offer quality DVD replication software clumsy" |
| 17:14.00 | *** topic/#tacobeam by lurgyman -> Ego-wise, two things are important to engineers: how smart they are and how many cool devices they own. || Tired of dealing with idiots? We offer quality DVD replication software clumsy |
| 17:17.46 | scanline | must be at least 5... |
| 17:18.44 | scanline | hey, this isn't messy |
| 17:18.49 | scanline | just complex |
| 17:19.05 | scanline | everything is quite modular and clean (well, for assembly language at least) |
| 17:19.20 | lurgyman | heh |
| 17:22.39 | darth_mall | that was fun |
| 17:22.44 | darth_mall | comps are so squishy |
| 17:23.55 | gonkulator | yay for starcraft |
| 17:24.43 | darth_mall | guh, windows is so gross |
| 17:25.57 | gonkulator | da |
| 17:26.47 | kergoth | job interview? |
| 17:26.54 | gonkulator | cool, what sort of job? |
| 17:27.45 | darth_mall | doing stuff in the DLC at school here |
| 17:28.01 | darth_mall | the description said something about handling the A/V equipment and redoing the website |
| 17:28.02 | gonkulator | nice |
| 17:28.15 | darth_mall | creating demos on the A/V equipment for the outreach program and stuff |
| 17:28.23 | scanline | ooh neat |
| 17:28.52 | gonkulator | sounds a lot like the job the person who sits next to me has |
| 17:28.52 | file | darth_mall: when is the job interview eh? |
| 17:28.53 | darth_mall | monday |
| 17:29.06 | darth_mall | scanline, I think other things in the DLC have an outreach program as well |
| 17:29.29 | darth_mall | it'd be nice cuz I'd be makin' bucks and it'd look good on my resume, which is kinda pitiful right now |
| 17:29.38 | scanline | cool |
| 17:29.57 | darth_mall | I feel fairly confident, because I interview well |
| 17:30.26 | darth_mall | and JoAnn got back to me pretty fast, so I'm guessing either there weren't a lot of applications, or mine was among the first |
| 17:31.08 | scanline | spiffy |
| 17:31.40 | gonkulator | darth_mall: I think she just knows how good a worker you're gonna be :) |
| 17:31.57 | darth_mall | pfff... from never having met me, I doubt it |
| 17:32.04 | kergoth | ugh, i have to do training with the devs on OE |
| 17:32.08 | kergoth | i hate teaching. |
| 17:32.40 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 17:34.07 | darth_mall | the one where he stabs you for disobeying the emperor? |
| 17:34.33 | gonkulator | no no no, the one where he throws a duck in the air and starts talking about trombones and Mahler |
| 17:34.43 | lurgyman | hurray! |
| 17:35.10 | lurgyman | no, sadly :( |
| 17:35.19 | gonkulator | hats? |
| 17:35.22 | darth_mall | oh well |
| 17:35.38 | darth_mall | these nifty lion and bear hats the praetorian guards were wearing |
| 17:35.41 | gonkulator | darth_mall: ok, I have dew this time |
| 17:35.58 | darth_mall | righto |
| 17:36.28 | lurgyman | later all |
| 17:39.37 | kergoth | bleh. operating without any caffeine |
| 17:40.17 | zak | darth_mall: one of those dlc apprenticships? |
| 17:40.27 | zak | you'll be joining us on the dark side of the ecenter? |
| 17:40.29 | zak | wheee |
| 17:41.09 | zak | gonkulator: question for you |
| 17:41.51 | scanline | oh, neat |
| 17:41.58 | scanline | apparently there's a spacegrant party today |
| 17:42.01 | scanline | I forgot all about it |
| 17:42.02 | zak | scanline: going you to the holdiay party then? |
| 17:42.12 | scanline | hmm? |
| 17:42.38 | zak | scanline: are you going (i was actually about to ask you, which amuses me) |
| 17:42.54 | scanline | yep |
| 17:43.22 | scanline | think I just got this DAC power code rewritten as a state machine |
| 17:47.10 | darth_mall | zak, somethin' about workin' in the DLC |
| 17:47.14 | darth_mall | not entirely sure what it entails |
| 17:47.21 | zak | darth_mall: cool, where? |
| 17:47.27 | darth_mall | just in the DLC |
| 17:47.29 | zak | (and good luck) |
| 17:47.34 | darth_mall | doing A/V stuff, looks like |
| 17:48.32 | zak | :) |
| 17:48.34 | darth_mall | haven't had a job interview since Pac Sun, Sr. year of HS |
| 17:48.47 | darth_mall | and that was just retail |
| 17:49.02 | kergoth | yay for not working retail |
| 17:49.13 | darth_mall | actually, I don't mind retail all that much |
| 17:49.17 | darth_mall | it's fast food I hate |
| 17:49.27 | darth_mall | retail's ok, except around x-mas |
| 17:49.43 | scanline | ergh, bad.. used pagesel where I should have banksel'ed |
| 17:49.49 | darth_mall | but you can usually some good money at x-mas cuz of all the extra work |
| 17:50.08 | kergoth | oh retail can definately make some cash, no doubt there, especially if you're a good salesman |
| 17:50.26 | darth_mall | and as long as you have a good manager it's pretty cool |
| 17:50.38 | darth_mall | had some really crappy managers, once |
| 17:50.40 | darth_mall | that sucked |
| 17:50.47 | darth_mall | but Pac Sun was good, cuz they had good people there |
| 17:50.52 | scanline | but.. retail involves people :P |
| 17:50.56 | kergoth | scanline: exactly! |
| 17:51.08 | darth_mall | though, I'm looking forward to doing something which requires more skill |
| 18:09.08 | kergoth | hey hardwire |
| 18:10.44 | darth_mall | time to get back into linux |
| 18:11.56 | gonkulator | the comps messed him up multiple times |
| 18:12.02 | kergoth | eh? you're not supposed to go away from linux at all! :) |
| 18:12.10 | sbahra | Hey kergoth, gonkulator |
| 18:12.14 | kergoth | hey sbahra |
| 18:12.33 | gonkulator | howdy sbahra |
| 18:12.56 | kergoth | hrm |
| 18:15.31 | scanline | aha |
| 18:15.40 | scanline | found some constants swapped in my state machine |
| 18:16.06 | scanline | of course, spending this time at the water fountain is a great way to stay hydrated... |
| 18:17.44 | gonkulator | scanline: if I was going to be purchasing a laptop in the next six months, would you have any recommendations? |
| 18:18.01 | file | I have a suggestion, go for Centrino |
| 18:18.05 | scanline | gonkulator: you really don't need another laptop do you? |
| 18:18.16 | scanline | you will have bought about 4 laptops since I got mine :P |
| 18:18.18 | file | I and pagefault both agree it's worth the extra cost |
| 18:19.11 | gonkulator | scanline: Brian wants an iBook, so he will be getting mine, and I will be getting a new one |
| 18:19.23 | gonkulator | my 500 mHz iBook is only good as a backup machine at this point |
| 18:19.33 | scanline | don't you already have a dozen or so to give out to family already? :) |
| 18:19.37 | scanline | s/already// |
| 18:19.46 | gonkulator | scanline: naw, they all b0rked :) |
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| 18:20.21 | gonkulator | though, a friend from work did lend me a 486DX that has a 200 MB disk, and 8 meg of memory |
| 18:20.25 | gonkulator | sound familiar ;) |
| 18:21.24 | gonkulator | but I only get it long enough to put linux on it |
| 18:21.40 | darth_mall | gonkulator: what's wrong w/ the 500mHz? |
| 18:22.24 | gonkulator | darth_mall: the screen does the same thing as scanline's, the battery is shot, and it doesn't have its own working power supply |
| 18:22.43 | darth_mall | so given all that you want another iBook? ^^ |
| 18:23.03 | darth_mall | that makes 4 iBooks now that have broken screens like that after only about 3 years |
| 18:23.05 | gonkulator | well, I'm considering it, but I also want everyone's input |
| 18:23.38 | gonkulator | yeah, I saw it |
| 18:24.23 | kergoth | i'm thinking about picking up one of Sharp's models |
| 18:24.31 | kergoth | maybe the mm1, despite the low ram |
| 18:24.36 | gonkulator | its a tad more expensive than a fully loaded G4 iBook |
| 18:25.29 | scanline | w00t... spewing data out to the transmit DAC and not skipping a beat processing incoming serial data |
| 18:26.17 | gonkulator | ugh... why won't they give battery life/weight information |
| 18:26.41 | scanline | hmm, bernadette and elaine are hanging baloons in the lobby |
| 18:27.47 | gonkulator | whoa |
| 18:27.52 | gonkulator | http://www.sharpsystems.com/products/pc_notebooks/actius/mm/10/ <--- that one has potential |
| 18:28.30 | darth_mall | yikes |
| 18:28.32 | darth_mall | that's tiny |
| 18:29.05 | gonkulator | yeah, I'll bet its expensive |
| 18:29.13 | gonkulator | but it has a Transmetta CPU :) |
| 18:29.27 | gonkulator | and what the hell is wrong with my space bar... |
| 18:29.50 | gonkulator | I guess I have to hit it more in the center... |
| 18:29.57 | darth_mall | wow, these are cheap |
| 18:30.23 | gonkulator | how much? |
| 18:33.26 | darth_mall | http://store.sharpsystems.com/product.asp?sku=2330642 |
| 18:35.07 | kergoth | spiffy isnt it? |
| 18:35.09 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:35.12 | darth_mall | I like this one: http://store.sharpsystems.com/product.asp?sku=2425758 |
| 18:35.23 | kergoth | i love sharp's hardware. i wish they brought more of it to the US |
| 18:36.30 | darth_mall | good stuff |
| 18:36.31 | darth_mall | and cheap |
| 18:39.06 | darth_mall | hmmm... battery life seems a little short though |
| 18:52.39 | kergoth | http://www.despair.com/dreams.html |
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| 18:53.19 | kergoth | 12:52 < jnork> You know how the eskimos supposedly have 47 different words for snow? Well, we have at least that many different |
| 18:53.22 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:54.08 | lurgy|elsewhere | heh |
| 18:56.17 | darth_mall | I wish our copy of The World's Address wasn't b0rked |
| 19:04.29 | gonkulator | ugh... looks like its a software issue that killed nova |
| 19:04.39 | file | nova? killed? what? |
| 19:04.55 | gonkulator | it isn't doing the whole "modprobe" thing correctly |
| 19:05.21 | gonkulator | just means I am going to recompile my kernel |
| 19:05.28 | gonkulator | have a 2.4 and a 2.6 on there |
| 19:08.00 | captain_proton | eww, BGM merged with sony |
| 19:10.59 | kergoth | oops |
| 19:11.08 | kergoth | too many simultanious glibc builds |
| 19:11.43 | captain_proton | heh |
| 19:11.55 | captain_proton | most people would never have that problem |
| 19:13.02 | captain_proton | mmmmmmmmmmm |
| 19:13.05 | captain_proton | i lub this song soo much |
| 19:15.50 | captain_proton | ......... |
| 19:15.51 | captain_proton | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2970 |
| 19:16.11 | kergoth | ? |
| 19:18.05 | captain_proton | why on earth did anyone bid on that? |
| 19:18.16 | file | captain_proton: you didn't give the full item number |
| 19:18.24 | captain_proton | eek, no i didn't |
| 19:18.31 | captain_proton | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2970399706&category=1469 |
| 19:18.42 | file | O.o |
| 19:18.53 | kergoth | what the hell.. |
| 19:18.54 | kergoth | heh |
| 19:19.34 | captain_proton | i can't believe someone paid 21GBP for it |
| 19:31.20 | captain_proton | ooh, its a different version of this song |
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| 20:34.47 | gonkulator | argh... |
| 20:34.54 | gonkulator | they didn't include the USB adaptor... |
| 20:41.58 | Cae|Away | ah, 8 |
| 20:42.16 | Cae|Away | and navi has five of them.. |
| 20:44.31 | sbahra | Cae|Away: Yeah, Stargate is pretty cool :) |
| 20:45.01 | sbahra | I'm sure I'm missing a whole lot more though, hehe |
| 20:45.15 | gonkulator | hi Cae|Away, dead yet? |
| 20:45.25 | sbahra | Hey gonkulator |
| 20:46.19 | Cae|Away | close |
| 20:46.29 | Cae|Away | I think I'll collapse in a puddle and sleep now. |
| 20:47.31 | darth_mall | shoot\ |
| 20:47.43 | gonkulator | hi sbahra |
| 20:49.41 | gonkulator | ARGH... |
| 21:01.52 | gonkulator | ah, ok, good |
| 21:01.55 | gonkulator | they were very helpful |
| 21:02.11 | file | what? |
| 21:02.15 | file | who? |
| 21:02.17 | gonkulator | the people on the phone |
| 21:02.22 | gonkulator | they gave me my UPS tracking number |
| 21:02.32 | file | ahhhh ic |
| 21:03.28 | gonkulator | and now I go get a hair cut |
| 21:03.32 | gonkulator | ttyl file |
| 21:04.07 | file | ttyl |
| 21:06.59 | *** join/#tacobeam Ganja (~fuckganja@ip68-12-234-124.ok.ok.cox.net) |
| 21:07.01 | Ganja | taco |
| 21:07.16 | gonkulator | ? |
| 21:07.33 | Ganja | hi |
| 21:07.37 | merlin{landing} | hi |
| 21:08.04 | gonkulator | Ganja: gotta help me on this one, who are you :) |
| 21:08.08 | merlin{landing} | Jaang |
| 21:08.12 | Ganja | i am Ganja |
| 21:08.21 | gonkulator | ah, ok |
| 21:08.23 | Ganja | the taco brought me here |
| 21:08.29 | merlin{landing} | power to the taco! |
| 21:08.32 | gonkulator | indeed |
| 21:08.34 | Ganja | how are you Gentlemen? |
| 21:08.45 | gonkulator | you have no chance to survive make your time |
| 21:08.50 | merlin{landing} | drunk |
| 21:09.01 | Ganja | what goes on here? |
| 21:09.31 | gonkulator | well, there are two segments |
| 21:09.35 | merlin{landing} | hmmm, that's a good question |
| 21:09.36 | gonkulator | the Texas segment and the Colorado segment |
| 21:09.49 | gonkulator | with some from canada, brazil and california thrown in to keep it fun |
| 21:10.19 | Ganja | i'm sure someone has whois'd me, i am in Tulsa |
| 21:10.20 | gonkulator | mostly, we are geeks that were either brought here because of CIA, or PicoGUI |
| 21:10.27 | gonkulator | OK |
| 21:10.47 | sbahra | gonkulator: Hey?! |
| 21:10.52 | sbahra | gonkulator: What do you mean two segments? |
| 21:10.56 | gonkulator | oh yeah |
| 21:11.05 | gonkulator | and we have sbahra, who is from the ass end of the world :P |
| 21:11.11 | sbahra | rofl |
| 21:11.13 | Ganja | omg |
| 21:11.26 | Ganja | does it smell bad over there? |
| 21:11.46 | sbahra | Ganja: I don't know, have you showered? |
| 21:11.56 | Ganja | why yes, i have |
| 21:12.07 | gonkulator | Ganja: so do you do any software development? |
| 21:12.31 | Ganja | i come from the doom community |
| 21:12.57 | gonkulator | oooh, neat |
| 21:13.00 | Ganja | yes i do |
| 21:13.07 | sbahra | Ganja: Neat. What type of software development? |
| 21:13.16 | Ganja | doom related stuff |
| 21:13.28 | Ganja | #skulltag and #zdaemon |
| 21:13.32 | sbahra | Like.... :) |
| 21:14.14 | *** topic/#tacobeam by gonkulator -> Ego-wise, two things are important to engineers: how smart they are and how many cool devices they own. || Tired of dealing with idiots? We offer quality DVD replication software clumsy || nose nuggets |
| 21:14.50 | Ganja | right now, i'm helping a russian named _orb create a linux version of zdaemons client/server |
| 21:15.18 | gonkulator | Ganja: thats neat, scanline and captain_proton are graphics programmers |
| 21:15.31 | Ganja | haha |
| 21:16.13 | gonkulator | actually... scanline does pretty much everything |
| 21:16.24 | gonkulator | merlin{landing}: what do you do again :P |
| 21:16.39 | gonkulator | carpman has AoF which makes programming trivial |
| 21:16.58 | gonkulator | and file came for the fries and ended up sticking around |
| 21:17.09 | file | I also ordered a taco |
| 21:17.10 | darth_mall | merlin{landing}: is just all around cute and amusing ^^ |
| 21:17.12 | file | but it never arrived |
| 21:17.23 | gonkulator | file: keep waiting, it might show up some day |
| 21:17.42 | file | gonkulator |
| 21:17.43 | darth_mall | nope, damn |
| 21:17.44 | gonkulator | file |
| 21:17.48 | file | gonkulator. |
| 21:17.52 | gonkulator | darth_mall: are you using irssi now? |
| 21:17.57 | kergoth | mm irssi |
| 21:18.02 | darth_mall | nope |
| 21:18.07 | gonkulator | oh, ChipX86 is a big time gaim developer |
| 21:18.10 | darth_mall | but I keep it around cuz it comes in handy sometimes |
| 21:18.18 | gonkulator | Cae|Away is about the best bug tester on the planet |
| 21:18.26 | scanline | too much sugar.. headache... |
| 21:18.33 | gonkulator | and kergoth hacks OE while complaining about pretty much everything :P |
| 21:18.41 | darth_mall | she tests those bugs they use for Red dye #40 |
| 21:18.52 | kergoth | yeah, damn this friday |
| 21:18.55 | kergoth | ibot: friday |
| 21:18.58 | gonkulator | darth_mall: did it test positive for grubs |
| 21:19.00 | sbahra | gonkulator: You program Java for a living? Hmm...never knew that :) |
| 21:19.06 | kergoth | ~friday |
| 21:19.09 | | Friday sucks, because it should be the weekend, but you're stuck working anyway. |
| 21:19.09 | darth_mall | gonkulator: ask Cae|Away, she's the bug tester |
| 21:19.30 | sbahra | kergoth: What do you do for a living? |
| 21:19.31 | gonkulator | sbahra: yeah, all the janitor jobs were taken :) |
| 21:19.42 | sbahra | jbot: Not for me. Our Fridays are your Sundays. Sucks. |
| 21:19.43 | | okay, sbahra |
| 21:19.43 | kergoth | sbahra: I'm an embedded linux developer |
| 21:19.49 | sbahra | kergoth: Cool, for whom? |
| 21:19.52 | kergoth | TI |
| 21:20.26 | gonkulator | oh yeah, haircut |
| 21:20.33 | sbahra | kergoth: Wow. Sounds like fun to me :] |
| 21:20.38 | sbahra | kergoth: How did you come to #tacobeam? |
| 21:20.40 | kergoth | sbahra: indeed it is |
| 21:20.44 | sbahra | kergoth: captain_proton? or...? |
| 21:20.46 | gonkulator | Ganja seems to have disappeared... oh well :) |
| 21:20.49 | kergoth | i maintain a linux distro |
| 21:20.55 | kergoth | that used to include picogui |
| 21:21.01 | gonkulator | sbahra: he came in the PicoGUI route |
| 21:21.02 | sbahra | kergoth: * Actually, this is where I would like to take my career in the future |
| 21:21.06 | sbahra | gonkulator: Ah. |
| 21:21.13 | gonkulator | as did I... |
| 21:21.50 | gonkulator | scanline: what had too much sugar? |
| 21:22.59 | merlin{landing} | hrm. back. |
| 21:23.07 | merlin{landing} | I sense I was insulted somehow when away.... |
| 21:23.38 | gonkulator | merlin{landing}: well, what projects have you done :) |
| 21:23.53 | merlin{landing} | nothing of consequence, hehe |
| 21:24.09 | gonkulator | just "academic" problems |
| 21:24.22 | merlin{landing} | kergoth: you work on arch linux right? |
| 21:24.28 | merlin{landing} | hrm. |
| 21:24.31 | gonkulator | oh well, if programming skill was a requirement for being here, I wouldn't be here |
| 21:24.35 | gonkulator | and now I realy go |
| 21:24.37 | gonkulator | really even |
| 21:24.45 | merlin{landing} | don't go! :( |
| 21:24.51 | sbahra | See you gonkulator. |
| 21:25.34 | kergoth | merlin{landing}: arch linux? nope |
| 21:26.52 | merlin{landing} | kergoth: what distro do you work on then? |
| 21:27.07 | merlin{landing} | maybe that was Xentac that worked on archlinux |
| 21:27.16 | file | yes Xentac works on ArchLinux |
| 21:27.21 | merlin{landing} | All shall come work on my distro! |
| 21:27.32 | kergoth | i've hacked on gentoo and debian in the past, but I maintain openzaurus and various derivatives. |
| 21:28.28 | kergoth | course nowadays I use OE to output various custom distros for varoius purposes |
| 21:28.34 | kergoth | UML use, embedded boards, what have you |
| 21:29.22 | merlin{landing} | well, that's cool |
| 21:29.27 | merlin{landing} | but, we need teh desktop linux!~ |
| 21:29.32 | merlin{landing} | er the |
| 21:30.10 | sbahra | kergoth: Any other work than embedded work? |
| 21:30.27 | kergoth | not at the moment. I'm in need of a new project or two |
| 21:30.30 | darth_mall | kergoth invented the moon ^^ |
| 21:32.49 | merlin{landing} | kergoth: a new init system! |
| 21:34.37 | darth_mall | man, FotR was so good |
| 21:34.43 | kergoth | merlin{landing}: atually, thats what i'm planning on. |
| 21:35.03 | kergoth | merlin{landing}: http://openembedded.org/phpwiki/index.php/inits |
| 21:35.17 | kergoth | reviewing all existing systems |
| 21:38.20 | merlin{landing} | hmmm |
| 21:38.26 | merlin{landing} | I'd like to see something easily scripted |
| 21:38.31 | merlin{landing} | so its easy to extend and such |
| 21:38.53 | kergoth | well, the downside to using big shell scripts, as per sysvinit, is performance. we take a big hit spawning things the way we do |
| 21:39.11 | kergoth | should be able to make it easily extensible, but via a differnet implementation |
| 21:39.12 | purple_cow | yay, done with my most stressful final |
| 21:39.20 | darth_mall | yay purple_cow! |
| 21:39.33 | merlin{landing} | I played around with a Python-based init system |
| 21:39.38 | merlin{landing} | it seemed to work pretty well |
| 21:39.43 | kergoth | i cant stand gentoo's |
| 21:39.47 | kergoth | what a fucking hack |
| 21:39.53 | kergoth | piling on a need(8) implementation onto sysvinit |
| 21:40.16 | merlin{landing} | hmmm |
| 21:40.29 | merlin{landing} | what exactly is wrong with SysVInit that you'd like to see improved? |
| 21:40.58 | kergoth | 1) inittab makes it a pain in the ass to easily control, from the perspective of an application install, what goes on what vt |
| 21:41.08 | kergoth | 2) the shell madness is a performance issue |
| 21:41.30 | kergoth | 3) lack of need(8) support means you can only start one script at a time, due to the lack of dependencies, which *greatly* slows bootup |
| 21:41.40 | kergoth | those are the primary concerns |
| 21:41.47 | kergoth | there are others, but those are more minor |
| 21:42.23 | merlin{landing} | hmm, how would you do away with shell scripting? |
| 21:42.24 | kergoth | have you read richard gooch's document on the need(8) approach? if not, i'd recommend doing so |
| 21:42.45 | kergoth | you control a service via a small *directly* parsed format |
| 21:42.57 | kergoth | one of the items of metadata in this format is the single command to execute or shutdown the service |
| 21:43.04 | kergoth | thats just an example of a means of doing so |
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| 21:43.32 | kergoth | init parses them all, formulates a dependency digraph, and starts execution |
| 21:44.06 | kergoth | also, I want a modular display methodology. picture a graphical init process, with a cancel button to click to drop to a shell during the bootup |
| 21:44.14 | kergoth | thats just a "nice to have", but still |
| 21:44.15 | sbahra | kergoth: Have you looked at the FreeBSD rcNG system? |
| 21:44.22 | kergoth | nope. url me |
| 21:45.11 | kergoth | hehe. hey ChipX86 |
| 21:45.24 | ChipX86 | hey |
| 21:45.40 | kergoth | the graphical init possibility was raster's idea. while disturbing at first glance, i like it. |
| 21:45.44 | purple_cow | 'allo lalo, ChipX86 |
| 21:45.46 | kergoth | hey lalo |
| 21:45.52 | purple_cow | heh, typical of raster |
| 21:45.53 | ChipX86 | hey |
| 21:45.58 | kergoth | purple_cow: yep |
| 21:46.23 | kergoth | merlin{landing}: if you have ideas on the subject, feel free to add them to that wiki |
| 21:46.26 | darth_mall | oh, hey lalo |
| 21:48.33 | purple_cow | bah, no cookies here |
| 21:49.52 | merlin{landing} | hello lalo |
| 21:50.06 | Ganja | any1 have an Ipod? |
| 21:50.12 | Ganja | http://www.ipodsdirtysecret.com/ |
| 21:50.23 | merlin{landing} | gonkulator: probably does |
| 21:50.29 | Ganja | omg |
| 21:51.10 | ChipX86 | competition! |
| 21:51.30 | purple_cow | heh |
| 21:51.30 | kergoth | merlin{landing}: fyi, bug1 (debian dev and busybox dev) has been working on a metadata handling lib. may be worth looking into |
| 21:51.42 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 21:51.48 | kergoth | thinking about it possibly to be used by the new OE backend |
| 21:51.54 | purple_cow | i always get confused about why people make these puzzle-piece web pages |
| 21:52.04 | kergoth | ChipX86: yeah, gotta look at that too :) |
| 21:52.08 | Ganja | ipod's unreplaceable battery only last 18 months |
| 21:52.14 | ChipX86 | once the rewrite is done, it'll be powerful |
| 21:52.56 | purple_cow | thats not exactly a secret |
| 21:53.09 | darth_mall | Ganja: not even that long |
| 21:53.12 | kergoth | hmm, minit has a pretty interesting way of managing it.. |
| 21:53.13 | darth_mall | and it is replaceable |
| 21:53.24 | darth_mall | but it costs 99 bucks |
| 21:53.34 | Ganja | fuck apple |
| 21:53.37 | darth_mall | the iPod is garbage, imho |
| 21:53.39 | kergoth | its essentially the same parsable format i mentioned earlier, but using a bunch of files/links instead of one |
| 21:54.01 | merlin{landing} | ChipX86: this looks like what I need! |
| 21:54.14 | merlin{landing} | ChipX86: I have a very nifty package format, but no database backend handling |
| 21:54.20 | ChipX86 | if you want to play with them, grab the tarballs, not cvs |
| 21:54.25 | ChipX86 | cvs is undergoing a complete rewrite |
| 21:54.42 | merlin{landing} | ChipX86: is this an official 'gnu' project? |
| 21:54.45 | ChipX86 | no |
| 21:55.15 | ChipX86 | common question. Bad name choice perhaps |
| 21:55.18 | ChipX86 | damn metacity |
| 21:56.48 | sbahra | kergoth: http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/. It should be in there some where. |
| 21:56.54 | kergoth | sbahra: k, thanks |
| 21:57.02 | kergoth | ill add it to the list of implementations to review |
| 21:57.05 | kergoth | bbiab |
| 21:57.23 | sbahra | kergoth: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/etc/ |
| 21:57.57 | sbahra | kergoth: It is still sh based, but it does have more granularity and organizations than I see in Linux. |
| 21:58.04 | sbahra | s/ions/ion/ |
| 22:00.13 | merlin{landing} | ChipX86: do you think Gnupdate could completely manage a package database on its own |
| 22:00.37 | ChipX86 | yeah, I have a module for my own custom database format. Works pretty well |
| 22:00.46 | merlin{landing} | ChipX86: it handles dependency checking and everything? |
| 22:00.52 | ChipX86 | mostly |
| 22:00.54 | ChipX86 | it's not finished at all |
| 22:01.06 | ChipX86 | it doesn't do dep checking for uninstallation yet |
| 22:01.08 | merlin{landing} | are you actively working on it? |
| 22:01.09 | ChipX86 | that'll come in the rewrite |
| 22:01.10 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 22:01.13 | ChipX86 | I took a break to work on gaim |
| 22:01.19 | ChipX86 | now I'm taking a very long break from gaim |
| 22:01.33 | merlin{landing} | hmmmm |
| 22:01.35 | ChipX86 | GNUpdate was stalled because libcomprex was broken. Now libcomprex is getting the redesign it needed. |
| 22:01.35 | sbahra | :( |
| 22:03.30 | merlin{landing} | ChipX86: what all would be involved in having Gnupdate "understand" nxpk packages? |
| 22:03.52 | ChipX86 | write a package module, stick it in a directory |
| 22:06.43 | merlin{landing} | ChipX86: is the latest development happening inside CVS? |
| 22:07.05 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 22:07.20 | ChipX86 | libcomprex in CVS is badly broken |
| 22:07.25 | ChipX86 | a complete API rewrite is going on in a branch |
| 22:07.30 | ChipX86 | tarballs are your safest bet right now |
| 22:07.52 | ChipX86 | I'm working daily trying to get libcomprex back up to a working state, but finals are this week |
| 22:08.01 | merlin{landing} | ewwww finals. :( |
| 22:08.41 | merlin{landing} | ouch! |
| 22:08.46 | merlin{landing} | what was that for? |
| 22:08.54 | carpman | merlin{landing}: just saying hi |
| 22:09.35 | merlin{landing} | carpman: I think I might use ChipX86's GNUpdate for the package manager |
| 22:09.50 | merlin{landing} | carpman: then, I can just worry about having a nice package format |
| 22:09.53 | ChipX86 | and GNUpdate has something no other package management system has |
| 22:09.54 | ChipX86 | fuzzy |
| 22:10.26 | sbahra | Does Gentoo have anything that allows you to automatically update software? AND its dependencies? (intelligently, ex: not always updating libraries if new pacakge is available, etc...) |
| 22:10.51 | purple_cow | sbahra: yeah, mostly |
| 22:10.57 | purple_cow | its like ports but with more features & stuff |
| 22:11.06 | ChipX86 | http://chipx86.com/gallery/Applications/GNUpdate/gpkg/Fuzzy/fuzzy6.png |
| 22:11.13 | darth_mall | one ring to bring them all, and in the darkness, bind them |
| 22:11.21 | sbahra | purple_cow: Have you taken a look at portupgrade? |
| 22:11.50 | carpman | ChipX86: ...what the hell is that? |
| 22:11.54 | ChipX86 | Fuzzy |
| 22:11.56 | ChipX86 | he eats your packages |
| 22:11.59 | sbahra | purple_cow: There aren't exactly so many newer features, the main issue is just the ability to cleanly organize several versions of software in the portage tree. We're stuck with top-level names... |
| 22:12.06 | ChipX86 | (not really.. they just drop and he walks over and eats them) |
| 22:12.13 | carpman | oook |
| 22:12.16 | ChipX86 | it's part of gpkg |
| 22:12.21 | ChipX86 | I was bored |
| 22:12.23 | carpman | so it's a package manager with a tagamagochi |
| 22:12.31 | sbahra | purple_cow: Not to say ports could be much better... :( |
| 22:12.36 | ChipX86 | you just type gpkg fuzzy, and it eats and eats |
| 22:12.45 | merlin{landing} | lol |
| 22:12.57 | merlin{landing} | Hmmm, the only downside is that I wanted heavy python integration |
| 22:12.58 | purple_cow | sbahra: try to find some info on gentoo's "slots" |
| 22:13.03 | purple_cow | i think thats the term that they use |
| 22:13.10 | carpman | merlin{landing}: sooo... make bindings! |
| 22:13.20 | sbahra | purple_cow: Ok. |
| 22:14.50 | merlin{landing} | Well, at least this gives me something to focus on nxpak development wise |
| 22:15.01 | sbahra | purple_cow: Slot -> E-Build? |
| 22:15.09 | merlin{landing} | I can stop worrying about the database stuff for a while, and get the package format reader and builder up to par |
| 22:15.55 | sbahra | purple_cow: Oh. Ok. Found it... |
| 22:16.49 | purple_cow | yay for running the gimp over remote X |
| 22:18.46 | sbahra | purple_cow: Well, other than the slots mechanism and IUSE (we leave this type of stuff up to the programmer, not so smart) there isn't much you can do more here. |
| 22:18.59 | darth_mall | gonkulator: did they trim it with a sharpened monkey? |
| 22:19.17 | sbahra | purple_cow: EBuild writers also miss a lot of the goodness of .mk files present in the BSD build-system... |
| 22:19.59 | gonkulator | darth_mall: it felt like it |
| 22:20.03 | gonkulator | darth_mall: are you up for more SC? |
| 22:20.05 | sbahra | I also see some nasty behavior that could happen with DEPEND. It blindly expects the user that something isn't installed? |
| 22:20.07 | gonkulator | it feels about time to me |
| 22:20.26 | darth_mall | gonkulator: hmmmmmm |
| 22:20.35 | lalo | hey gonkey! |
| 22:20.36 | darth_mall | that's a tough call |
| 22:20.40 | gonkulator | hey lalo |
| 22:20.43 | gonkulator | lalo: whats new? |
| 22:20.53 | sbahra | What if I have for example my own "ls" command? and a port requires category/ls? Will it blindly install that portage? |
| 22:21.02 | gonkulator | darth_mall: FotR? |
| 22:21.08 | darth_mall | Fellowship of the Ring |
| 22:21.11 | gonkulator | ah |
| 22:21.32 | gonkulator | eeew |
| 22:21.37 | gonkulator | is it on navi? |
| 22:21.40 | darth_mall | yeah |
| 22:21.43 | lalo | gonkulator: been working on my own business :-) first project, website, things are moving along |
| 22:21.45 | darth_mall | captain_proton: ripped it the other day |
| 22:21.47 | darth_mall | gonkulator: it's big |
| 22:21.49 | gonkulator | lalo: congrats |
| 22:21.52 | sbahra | purple_cow: So...? |
| 22:21.55 | gonkulator | darth_mall: so I'll kill the upstream tonight |
| 22:22.10 | gonkulator | lalo: I got workstudy approved for next semester, so I get to keep my job :) |
| 22:22.21 | darth_mall | gonkulator: it's in 2 pieces ^^ |
| 22:22.25 | gonkulator | darth_mall: how long until your stuff is done? |
| 22:22.29 | darth_mall | so far the added scenes have been pretty neat |
| 22:23.32 | gonkulator | darth_mall: neat :) |
| 22:23.53 | gonkulator | well, I'll take this opportunity to get some food, so that when you're ready for more squishy comps, so will I |
| 22:24.16 | lalo | gonkulator: congrats back :-) |
| 22:24.28 | purple_cow | doodeedoo |
| 22:24.31 | carpman | I would play with you guys, if I hadn't broken my SC cd in half |
| 22:25.41 | gonkulator | aw |
| 22:25.52 | gonkulator | carpman: I'll sacrafice my upstream to send you the iso |
| 22:25.54 | darth_mall | carpman: there might be iso's on navi |
| 22:26.06 | purple_cow | yay, its like an updated network diagram |
| 22:26.08 | carpman | no thanks. I detest Blizard |
| 22:26.15 | gonkulator | carpman: fair deal |
| 22:26.19 | darth_mall | me too |
| 22:26.22 | darth_mall | but SC is kinda fun |
| 22:26.28 | darth_mall | 'cept I have no skill for it anymore |
| 22:26.46 | gonkulator | darth_mall: bah, in two weeks, we'll be killing three comps again |
| 22:27.05 | darth_mall | gonkulator: the problem is, I have very little patience for that kind of thing anymore |
| 22:27.19 | sbahra | purple_cow: Oh, come on, tell me about this DEPENDS :) |
| 22:27.27 | purple_cow | sbahra: ask the gentoo developers ;) |
| 22:27.46 | sbahra | Ok. |
| 22:27.48 | carpman | darth_mall and gonkulator: ever considered Enemy Territory? |
| 22:28.07 | sbahra | purple_cow: Just to note, doesn't look so much better than ports :) |
| 22:28.23 | purple_cow | sbahra: i never said it was hugely better, but i do like slots |
| 22:28.26 | carpman | it's and FPS, but it's not all about frags. There are objectives and *gsap* teamwork |
| 22:28.27 | kergoth | hmmm |
| 22:29.08 | darth_mall | carpman: what's that? |
| 22:29.12 | sbahra | purple_cow: Yes, that's pretty cool. Not sure how it could be cleanly implemented though...(possibly as a modified install target and a blind sed) |
| 22:29.21 | sbahra | purple_cow: but cool :) |
| 22:29.51 | carpman | darth_mall: http://enemy-territory.4players.de:1041/ |
| 22:30.05 | purple_cow | and as linux package systems go, gentoo's had the best of those i've used |
| 22:31.50 | purple_cow | blah, /me has to be here for another hour |
| 22:31.55 | purple_cow | err, half hour |
| 22:32.18 | darth_mall | more coffee! |
| 22:33.26 | gonkulator | darth_mall: more ducks! |
| 22:35.02 | kergoth | so, i just went from contract to full time |
| 22:35.19 | carpman | kergoth: yay! |
| 22:36.55 | purple_cow | congrats |
| 22:36.56 | darth_mall | carpman: neat, but I'm not a huge fan of FPS, really |
| 22:37.01 | darth_mall | except Thief ^^ |
| 22:37.08 | kergoth | had to take a pay cut due to politics and budgeting though. worth it for the benefits and increased job security. |
| 22:40.15 | kergoth | thanks :) |
| 22:41.41 | gonkulator | heh |
| 22:42.27 | kergoth | hehe. i'm happy, but the pay cut kinda hurt. was like a 5k cut. |
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| 22:43.53 | pagefault | join #voices |
| 22:43.53 | gonkulator | kergoth: yeah, but you probably more than get that back in benefits |
| 22:43.55 | pagefault | err |
| 22:43.57 | pagefault | that was messed up |
| 22:43.59 | pagefault | that wasn't even for this network |
| 22:44.08 | pagefault | sup all |
| 22:44.13 | scanline | w00t |
| 22:44.21 | scanline | first command sent successfully in critical mode |
| 22:44.27 | darth_mall | yay scanline |
| 22:44.31 | darth_mall | you win a cookie |
| 22:45.01 | purple_cow | ok, i think i'm comin' home |
| 22:45.04 | darth_mall | yay |
| 22:46.57 | kergoth | gonkulator: yeah probably. |
| 22:47.23 | sbahra | Hey pagefault |
| 22:47.25 | sbahra | I'm off |
| 22:48.58 | gonkulator | this is such a funny show |
| 22:51.13 | darth_mall | gonkulator: wanna play SC later w/ rob? |
| 22:51.17 | darth_mall | and maybe masternater? |
| 22:52.42 | gonkulator | darth_mall: definately |
| 22:53.22 | file | abydos doesn't make a peep anymore when scanning incoming e-mail |
| 22:53.51 | pagefault | no more exams! |
| 22:57.13 | file | pagefault: UPS hates me |
| 22:57.37 | pagefault | where in the world is file's package |
| 22:57.54 | file | Quebec. |
| 22:57.59 | file | contrary to UPS's belief, it's in Quebec |
| 22:58.15 | pagefault | UPS isn't very good |
| 22:58.17 | gonkulator | oh, what a great show |
| 22:59.04 | gonkulator | its taken out of context, and its very funny |
| 22:59.26 | file | I called yesterday and today, and they both said today |
| 22:59.36 | pagefault | and no package? |
| 22:59.37 | file | but alas, I don't think it was delivered cause it's not installed in abydos |
| 22:59.41 | darth_mall | file: you should call them last year |
| 22:59.52 | file | darth_mall: that's a great idea :) |
| 23:00.53 | darth_mall | sounds like captain_proton is home |
| 23:00.57 | darth_mall | yay! |
| 23:01.05 | gonkulator | MXC is great |
| 23:02.13 | darth_mall | Liv Tyler makes a pretty good elf |
| 23:02.33 | file | the double helix! |
| 23:02.44 | darth_mall | I wish |
| 23:05.04 | pagefault | elfferiffic |
| 23:05.05 | gonkulator | yay for the most painful eliminations of the day |
| 23:05.08 | darth_mall | probably not |
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| 23:05.18 | pagefault | I wonder why the elves at the north pole are so small compared to those in middle earth |
| 23:05.20 | gonkulator | wb ChipX86 |
| 23:05.26 | darth_mall | pagefault: cuz they're not as cool |
| 23:05.27 | ChipX86 | thanks |
| 23:05.36 | darth_mall | also, inbreeding |
| 23:05.48 | pagefault | maybe elves go north when they get old, like old people go south when they get old |
| 23:05.50 | kergoth | hmm |
| 23:05.57 | pagefault | so really the elves at the north pole are just retired elves from middle earth |
| 23:05.59 | darth_mall | pagefault: Elves go west when they get old |
| 23:06.20 | darth_mall | but old for an Elf is atleast a few hundred |
| 23:06.23 | darth_mall | at least, in Middle Earth |
| 23:06.26 | pagefault | yeah |
| 23:06.30 | Ganja | well |
| 23:06.33 | darth_mall | actually, they're immortal in Middle Earth |
| 23:06.38 | darth_mall | so they don't really get old |
| 23:06.42 | gonkulator | oh, wow, Ganja is actually backish |
| 23:06.46 | kergoth | crap crap crap |
| 23:06.47 | Ganja | nice to meet you guys, but i will probably never come back here |
| 23:06.51 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 23:06.52 | kergoth | i forgot to drop by my apartment office again |
| 23:07.01 | kergoth | no internet or tv for kergoth again :( |
| 23:07.08 | darth_mall | =( |
| 23:07.11 | gonkulator | bummer |
| 23:07.16 | file | apache... why will you not work... |
| 23:07.19 | darth_mall | ugh, Hugo Warning |
| 23:07.25 | darth_mall | why did they cast him as Elrond |
| 23:07.37 | pagefault | I always think matrix whenever I see him now |
| 23:07.49 | darth_mall | pagefault: that's because he isn't a very good actor |
| 23:07.58 | darth_mall | the only role he seems capable of playing is Agent Smith |
| 23:07.59 | pagefault | he acts the same way in both movies |
| 23:08.12 | captain_proton | bah |
| 23:08.22 | captain_proton | wtf is this /no/reference/html/... |
| 23:09.59 | darth_mall | Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson |
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| 23:10.37 | file | success.. |
| 23:10.53 | pagefault | ? |
| 23:11.06 | file | I got apache working |
| 23:11.12 | pagefault | cool |
| 23:14.01 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 23:14.11 | darth_mall | yay captain_proton! |
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| 23:14.19 | darth_mall | LEGOLAS! |
| 23:14.26 | darth_mall | GIMLI! |
| 23:17.50 | kergoth | hm, i really suck at writing parsers |
| 23:19.32 | gonkulator | KSoze: howdy |
| 23:21.02 | darth_mall | I never pictured Elrond frowning so much |
| 23:21.27 | captain_proton | darth_mall: i don't suppose the oven has beeped yet? |
| 23:23.06 | darth_mall | captain_proton: not that I've heard |
| 23:23.13 | captain_proton | mmmk |
| 23:23.20 | darth_mall | they over did Gandalf in this too |
| 23:23.54 | kergoth | hey hardwire |
| 23:24.16 | ChipX86 | I have a craving for a bologna sandwich. Wish we had bologna or bread |
| 23:24.22 | darth_mall | ewww |
| 23:24.34 | kergoth | i havent had bologna since i was a kid |
| 23:24.34 | captain_proton | eww, bologna? |
| 23:24.39 | kergoth | and dont plan on it |
| 23:24.39 | ChipX86 | mmmm! |
| 23:24.44 | captain_proton | get yerself some real sammich meat |
| 23:24.49 | captain_proton | like corned beef, or pastrami |
| 23:24.54 | darth_mall | or scanline |
| 23:24.57 | darth_mall | >-) |
| 23:25.08 | darth_mall | erm... >=) |
| 23:25.44 | gonkulator | darth_mall: yay for the cyclops |
| 23:28.31 | kergoth | hmmmmm |
| 23:29.31 | file | dialup... I'll never go back to it |
| 23:30.08 | gonkulator | mmm... corned beef |
| 23:30.25 | darth_mall | gonkulator: shall I msg rob about a game? |
| 23:30.39 | gonkulator | darth_mall: I was right about to go get a movie, but yeah |
| 23:30.58 | kergoth | picked up the Stigmata dvd the other day |
| 23:31.00 | kergoth | love that movie |
| 23:31.11 | darth_mall | good filme |
| 23:31.18 | darth_mall | time to reboot |
| 23:31.20 | gonkulator | yep |
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| 23:54.53 | pagefault | file |
| 23:54.58 | pagefault | go download all the mp3s you want |
| 23:54.59 | pagefault | it's now legal |
| 23:55.02 | pagefault | just don't upload |
| 23:55.12 | pagefault | hehe |
| 23:55.42 | file | I know... |
| 23:55.43 | file | I |
| 23:55.44 | file | er |
| 23:55.46 | file | I've known for awhile |
| 23:56.10 | pagefault | it's official today |
| 23:56.22 | pagefault | http://www.cb-cda.gc.ca/new-e.html |
| 23:56.43 | pagefault | http://news.com.com/2100-1025-5121479.html |
| 23:57.11 | pagefault | there is a $25 tax on mp3 players now though |
| 23:57.11 | pagefault | :/ |
| 23:57.15 | file | yeah |
