| 00:01.37 | scanline | how late can you return things to the video station? |
| 00:01.50 | darth_mall | scanline: dunno |
| 00:01.56 | darth_mall | they're usually open pretty late |
| 00:02.05 | darth_mall | I can drop it off when I head up to print my lab |
| 00:02.38 | scanline | well, I was pondering walking to work to test some things.. but if you're going to campus and can drop them off, I can save that for tomorrow :) |
| 00:14.15 | Cae|Away | back later |
| 00:17.11 | darth_mall | scanline is silly |
| 00:20.02 | file | yeekz Google finds everything |
| 00:20.09 | file | even guest access to a real estate database |
| 00:46.17 | captain_proton | yay i'm back |
| 00:50.46 | scanline | yay |
| 01:02.23 | gonkulator | scanline: so what happened with the espresso? |
| 01:02.37 | scanline | gonkulator: are you really too lazy to scroll up? |
| 01:02.47 | gonkulator | scanline: I already read it :) |
| 01:03.08 | gonkulator | I guess I don't want to do homework, and its easier to bother you than actually try and really focus on it |
| 01:03.17 | file | gonkulator: DO YOUR HOMEWORK |
| 01:03.18 | captain_proton | gonkulator: don't act like that - when you do so, you deserve a swift kick to the anus |
| 01:04.06 | gonkulator | captain_proton: thanks |
| 01:32.06 | merlin262 | gonkulator: don't do your homework! |
| 01:32.11 | merlin262 | gonkulator: bad gonkulator! |
| 01:32.16 | merlin262 | homework is for loosers |
| 01:44.47 | pagefault | that was an experience |
| 01:44.57 | file | what what what |
| 01:45.03 | pagefault | being poinged |
| 01:45.07 | file | ahhhh yes |
| 02:08.08 | scanline | finished all this miscellaneous housekeeping code... think I might be ready to take a whack at the software UART |
| 02:09.32 | Cae|Away | hmm..have a friend who wants a 64-bit C/C++ compiler..know of one? |
| 02:10.38 | scanline | gcc |
| 02:11.47 | Cae|Away | thanks. I'm...not conscious. blame physics. and then kill me so I don't have to study it more. please. |
| 02:14.38 | scanline | =( |
| 02:18.09 | file | I have a band rehearsal last 2 periods of Tuesday... if I'm not there tomorrow I won't get the permission slip till Tuesday |
| 02:18.17 | file | then I'll have to track down the teachers.. argh |
| 02:29.10 | darth_mall | well, time to head up to school and print this lab |
| 03:03.04 | merlin262 | hey darth_mall |
| 03:11.44 | lurgyman | wow it's empty around here |
| 03:12.27 | file | where's here? |
| 03:12.57 | pagefault | here is there |
| 03:13.51 | scanline | lurgyman: darth_mall and I went to campus |
| 03:14.33 | lurgyman | ah |
| 03:14.37 | lurgyman | what's happening on campus? |
| 03:15.18 | scanline | well, he was printing stuff |
| 03:15.20 | scanline | and I went to work |
| 03:15.40 | lurgyman | ah |
| 03:15.42 | scanline | noooooooo... my beautiful test suite no longer passes |
| 03:15.44 | lurgyman | are you back again? :) |
| 03:15.50 | lurgyman | ...guess not. |
| 03:16.33 | scanline | mmnope |
| 03:16.50 | scanline | had been thinking about going in so I could test the code I was working on |
| 03:16.59 | lurgyman | and captain_proton's at the holiday festival again, i'd assume |
| 03:17.02 | darth_mall | alright, lab doodle is printe |
| 03:17.06 | darth_mall | hi lurgyman |
| 03:17.09 | scanline | and it turns out rob was thinking about coming in to work on the PCB |
| 03:17.12 | darth_mall | we can watch stuff |
| 03:17.15 | scanline | so we could collaborate-and-stuff |
| 03:17.23 | scanline | yay |
| 03:18.23 | lurgyman | hiya darth_mall |
| 03:18.29 | lurgyman | darth_mall: yay! |
| 03:18.32 | lurgyman | you're back? |
| 03:18.36 | lurgyman | we should watch i, claudius :) |
| 03:19.29 | darth_mall | k |
| 03:19.32 | darth_mall | c'mon down |
| 03:19.39 | darth_mall | I'm gonna start makin' some dinner in a just a bit |
| 03:19.50 | lurgyman | okeydokey |
| 03:39.25 | file | do you see what I see? |
| 03:42.36 | merlin262 | hrm, sometimes working on nxpak, i wonder if I could accomplish the same goals with other software |
| 03:42.38 | merlin262 | *sighs* |
| 03:43.54 | file | that's odd, I can feel my eye twitching |
| 03:44.03 | file | must be this strange grease megamix disco remix I just happened to listen to |
| 03:50.56 | scanline | merlin262: that's often the case :) |
| 03:51.03 | scanline | file: get a life |
| 03:51.31 | file | scanline: no thx |
| 03:51.35 | file | I'm content as I am |
| 03:52.06 | scanline | hrm |
| 03:52.15 | scanline | I think this serial transmission is a good bit slower than it should be... |
| 03:52.35 | scanline | probably combining very tiny in-kernel buffers with slow python userspace code... |
| 03:57.03 | scanline | hrm |
| 03:57.14 | scanline | or maybe the serial port decided it likes to run at 1200 baud when I told it 9600 |
| 04:15.26 | scanline | AssertionError: Looks like the serial port is running at the wrong baud rate. Measured 1215 baud instead of 9600 |
| 04:26.41 | darth_mall | scanline: I forwarded you something I think you might enjoy |
| 04:30.06 | scanline | hehe |
| 04:30.07 | scanline | mallac! |
| 04:30.57 | file | Xentac's family owned a lake? how... cool |
| 04:31.01 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 04:31.47 | darth_mall | i like crocodiles |
| 04:32.33 | darth_mall | scanline: I thought you'd enjoy that |
| 04:40.07 | file | goodnight |
| 04:58.48 | Xentac | file: crazy, isn't it? |
| 04:59.56 | captain_proton | hmm, a job at ucar |
| 05:00.10 | captain_proton | "Assists scientists in the development of visualization tools for analysis and display of data from solar, solar wind, magnetospheric and ionospheric simulations." |
| 05:01.52 | scanline | wow |
| 05:02.11 | scanline | so apparently if I call tcsetattr() three times with the same parameters, my serial port actually sets the baud rate correctly |
| 05:02.50 | captain_proton | heh |
| 05:03.29 | scanline | hrm |
| 05:03.56 | captain_proton | hmm, nope |
| 05:08.30 | scanline | Command and Data Handling connector 3 |
| 05:08.36 | ChipX86 | ah |
| 05:09.08 | scanline | I unplugged it to show something to Rob, and all of a sudden some of my test cases would fail... |
| 05:11.11 | scanline | yikes |
| 05:16.34 | ChipX86 | if I don't get out of this house soon, I'm going to go mad |
| 05:16.54 | ChipX86 | after my party, I had half a good sized chocolate cake left |
| 05:16.56 | ChipX86 | my stepdad just ate that. |
| 05:17.21 | ChipX86 | the same person who a day ago called my a worthless, immature asshole who won't make it just ate my birthday cake |
| 05:21.31 | scanline | =( |
| 05:21.35 | scanline | ChipX86 should come live withus |
| 05:21.37 | scanline | er, with us |
| 05:21.46 | ChipX86 | I just need to move out |
| 05:22.04 | ChipX86 | this would be a good place to live if my stepdad wasn't around |
| 05:26.27 | darth_mall | weeeeee |
| 05:27.32 | scanline | sproingle |
| 05:39.27 | merlin262 | hey darth_mall |
| 05:39.59 | merlin262 | mwahahahaah |
| 05:43.22 | captain_proton | ooh, i don't have to get up until 8 tomorrow |
| 05:44.34 | captain_proton | bastard |
| 05:44.44 | ChipX86 | yes. Bastard. |
| 05:44.50 | ChipX86 | 7:50 |
| 05:50.17 | darth_mall | heya merlin262 |
| 05:50.32 | merlin262 | hey darth_mall |
| 05:50.34 | darth_mall | scanline: I bcc'ed a copy of my reply to my lab partner if you wanna take a look |
| 05:50.44 | merlin262 | what do you think about having package information in an sql database? |
| 05:50.45 | darth_mall | see if you think I explained it well enough |
| 05:51.09 | darth_mall | so I'm the wrong person to ask tha ^^ |
| 05:51.13 | captain_proton | merlin262: is it on-disk in human readable formats? :) |
| 05:51.44 | merlin262 | captain_proton: not really, it's in whatever format sqlite uses |
| 05:52.43 | scanline | darth_mall: nice sig :) |
| 05:52.53 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 05:53.16 | darth_mall | I happened to be listening to that while I was writing an e-mail and decided to change my si |
| 05:53.19 | darth_mall | s/si/sig/ |
| 05:53.53 | captain_proton | merlin262: i'd strongly suggest using something that has a human-readable format |
| 05:54.10 | merlin262 | hmmm |
| 05:54.18 | scanline | merlin262: the filesystem makes a decent database |
| 05:55.50 | merlin262 | hmmm |
| 06:02.19 | darth_mall | yay! it's a very young Patrick Stewart with hair! |
| 06:03.05 | scanline | yikes |
| 06:03.25 | captain_proton | ooh, /me poings upstairs |
| 06:13.22 | captain_proton | aww, i missed it |
| 06:18.49 | darth_mall | wow, I think this webpage actually looks pretty nice ^^ |
| 06:24.44 | lurgyman | :) |
| 06:24.46 | lurgyman | does indeed |
| 06:25.29 | captain_proton | the box at the bottom is slightly wider on the right than the box above it |
| 06:25.43 | darth_mall | that's because the footer is not in a table |
| 06:25.48 | darth_mall | but the stuff above is |
| 06:28.26 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 06:28.39 | lurgyman | heh |
| 06:30.42 | darth_mall | night kids |
| 06:31.46 | lurgyman | night darth_mall |
| 06:32.10 | captain_proton | scanline: i hope not all at once |
| 06:32.20 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 06:33.59 | scanline | so you eat THAT kind of pecan pie, eh? |
| 06:34.08 | captain_proton | yup |
| 06:36.11 | captain_proton | hehe |
| 06:36.24 | captain_proton | its got a lot of the same spices |
| 06:36.28 | captain_proton | (the nog part mostly, i think) |
| 06:38.24 | captain_proton | ew |
| 06:39.29 | scanline | this couldn't possibly be going faster than 32 bytes/second |
| 06:41.04 | scanline | wazzat? |
| 06:41.13 | scanline | gah.. this memory dump command is making it reboot :-/ |
| 06:41.24 | lurgyman | ew |
| 06:41.42 | captain_proton | scanline: on your resume |
| 06:41.47 | scanline | whoops.. pagesel in the wrong place |
| 06:41.53 | scanline | captain_proton: oh, the advogato doodad? |
| 06:42.02 | captain_proton | no |
| 06:42.04 | captain_proton | -resume- |
| 06:42.17 | scanline | I forgot I put wasabi on that |
| 06:42.51 | captain_proton | no you didn't |
| 06:43.03 | captain_proton | "A set-top-box system consisting of Python modules and multiple small USB peripherals." |
| 06:43.08 | scanline | ah |
| 06:44.11 | scanline | wloader sure is slow... but at least it doesn't involve UV and bent pins |
| 06:44.41 | scanline | hell, wloader makes the satellite's network look fast |
| 06:45.37 | captain_proton | hiya Cae |
| 06:46.01 | Cae | hiya |
| 06:48.47 | captain_proton | wow, sgi.com is being slow |
| 06:49.26 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 06:49.29 | captain_proton | boulder got slashdotted |
| 06:49.39 | lurgyman | ? |
| 06:50.09 | lurgyman | ah |
| 06:50.16 | lurgyman | haha |
| 06:50.36 | lurgyman | channel 7's probably wondering where all the extra hits are coming from |
| 06:50.58 | captain_proton | heh |
| 06:50.59 | captain_proton | yup |
| 06:51.09 | captain_proton | it wasn't visible when i came back from home around 9:30 |
| 06:52.49 | lurgyman | though i doubt i'm looking in the right direction for ball |
| 06:53.02 | captain_proton | no, you're not |
| 06:53.06 | captain_proton | they're just about due east of here |
| 06:53.09 | lurgyman | yeah |
| 06:53.20 | captain_proton | heh, i like the linus quotes thing |
| 06:53.27 | Cae | mkay, back in a little |
| 06:57.30 | captain_proton | yay |
| 06:57.37 | captain_proton | gnome's new print-to-pdf thing is neat |
| 06:57.58 | scanline | indeedy |
| 06:58.25 | captain_proton | wahoo, resume all updated |
| 06:59.04 | scanline | did you put my USB stuff on your resume? :) |
| 06:59.22 | captain_proton | no, i just mentioned wasabi using the same line as yours ;) |
| 06:59.32 | captain_proton | considering the work i did on pybzengine and all |
| 07:02.51 | scanline | ok, so now it's crashing when this interrupt is supposed to happen |
| 07:07.13 | captain_proton | http://navi/~jupiter/resume.pdf =) |
| 07:08.39 | scanline | egads |
| 07:08.47 | scanline | somehow mozilla decided I really meant www.navi.com |
| 07:08.51 | scanline | and I get a microsoft error message |
| 07:08.52 | captain_proton | heh |
| 07:09.05 | captain_proton | missing a hosts entry? |
| 07:09.56 | scanline | well, I have it commented out since I'm not on our LAN |
| 07:10.05 | scanline | hmm, I should add some of that XML/XSLT goop to my resume too |
| 07:10.17 | lurgyman | Astonomer #1: .....so anyway the cop pulls me over and asks if I realized that I had just run a redlight. So I said that I did not see the light as being red, because it must have blue-shifted as i was approaching it. |
| 07:10.21 | lurgyman | Astronomer #2: And he let you go? |
| 07:10.26 | lurgyman | Astronomer #1: No. He gave me a speeding ticket intead. |
| 07:10.30 | scanline | I didn't think microcontroller was supposed to have a hyphen |
| 07:10.47 | captain_proton | scanline: hmm, probably |
| 07:11.14 | scanline | :) |
| 07:12.22 | scanline | hmm, so the cute hex-dump-over-rs-485 shows the interrupt flags doing their thing correctly as long as I don't turn on the global interrupt enable |
| 07:12.25 | scanline | but when that goes on, kerpoof! |
| 07:14.22 | kyric | i FUCKING HATE MY LAB GROUP |
| 07:14.30 | kyric | hey is abi or mpg smaller? |
| 07:14.37 | kyric | s/abi/avi |
| 07:14.50 | kyric | hellllllllllow |
| 07:14.54 | kyric | anyone? |
| 07:15.08 | kyric | answer needed in a hurryesque fashion |
| 07:16.23 | scanline | it depends, but usually avi |
| 07:16.35 | scanline | avi is just a container format, so it can have many different types of compression |
| 07:16.48 | scanline | why do you ask? |
| 07:21.51 | scanline | aha.. if I ditch the entire interrupt handler except for some debug code to toggle an I/O port, it works |
| 07:27.49 | scanline | yay, missing pagesel |
| 07:34.13 | captain_proton | kyric: are you coming home tonight? if so, could you reset your modem on the way to bed? :) |
| 07:35.45 | scanline | someone needs to recrimp her cable still |
| 07:37.19 | captain_proton | yeah =/ |
| 07:41.19 | scanline | I know how much you love that goo :) |
| 07:43.39 | captain_proton | yeah, but you have the magic touch |
| 07:43.51 | scanline | yeah, but I'm at work |
| 07:43.54 | scanline | jen's on her way home |
| 07:44.40 | captain_proton | i need to hit the sack soonish |
| 07:44.45 | captain_proton | as i have class tomorrow morning |
| 07:45.57 | scanline | aww |
| 07:45.58 | captain_proton | hmm, belt exams at kenpo on friday |
| 07:46.46 | scanline | yay for sticking initialization code in the main loop to correct radiation-induced errors as soon as possible |
| 07:56.19 | captain_proton | w00t |
| 07:56.21 | captain_proton | python 2.3 in portage |
| 08:15.01 | captain_proton | mmm |
| 08:15.10 | captain_proton | the chocolates my mom makes are approaching professional levels |
| 08:19.45 | scanline | captain_proton: but.. it's been in portage for a long time |
| 08:20.16 | captain_proton | scanline: ok, python 2.3 stable enough for gentoo to think its ready to install |
| 08:20.32 | scanline | ah |
| 08:20.56 | scanline | did they fix their portage goop, or did they just add 2.2 to the #! lines? |
| 08:21.04 | captain_proton | i dunno yet |
| 08:22.25 | captain_proton | hrm |
| 08:22.33 | captain_proton | portage hasn't been updated since nov 29 |
| 08:22.48 | captain_proton | and it wasn't in the list of deps for python |
| 08:22.49 | captain_proton | .... |
| 08:23.20 | scanline | so it was more of a "hey, it would be neat if we released this" thing? |
| 08:23.29 | captain_proton | maybe |
| 08:23.37 | captain_proton | hopefully it won't screw up my system |
| 08:23.40 | captain_proton | that would be unhappy |
| 08:23.54 | scanline | captain_proton: I've been using 2.3 on yoshi and omega for a while now with no problems |
| 08:23.56 | captain_proton | mmm, whr soundtrack |
| 08:24.07 | captain_proton | scanline: i mean with portage not being updated and all |
| 08:24.23 | scanline | well, if so just tweak the #! lines :) |
| 08:24.30 | captain_proton | /usr/bin/emerge still has #!/usr/bin/python |
| 08:24.35 | scanline | hmm |
| 08:24.43 | scanline | intewesting |
| 08:24.49 | scanline | well, try it :) |
| 08:26.21 | scanline | jbot: 20000000 / 4 / 4 / 9600 |
| 08:26.22 | | 130.208333333333 |
| 08:26.37 | scanline | close enough |
| 08:27.23 | captain_proton | i guess #9 is also a quality one |
| 08:29.07 | captain_proton | scanline: are you coming home tonight? |
| 08:29.39 | scanline | dunno |
| 08:29.49 | captain_proton | ok, i'll turn the lights off upstairs in that case |
| 08:29.54 | scanline | k |
| 08:41.22 | Cae | ew..it's almost 3.. |
| 08:41.26 | Cae | I'm out.. |
| 08:41.39 | Cae | sleep well, everyone who hasn't passed out yet (and those who have) |
| 09:39.02 | scanline | ugh, late |
| 10:19.06 | scanline | yay, sleepytime |
| 12:41.50 | *** join/#tacobeam sbahra (~sbahra@dial37-159.sbm.net.sa) |
| 12:47.54 | gonkulator | hey sbahra, whats up? |
| 12:48.10 | sbahra | Hey gonkulator |
| 15:15.43 | captain_proton | eeegh |
| 15:28.59 | captain_proton | hmm, wacky |
| 15:29.14 | captain_proton | there's a python updater script that rebuilds things that depended on python 2.2 |
| 15:29.18 | captain_proton | but portage isn't in that list |
| 15:29.47 | gonkulator | right, thats because portage still runs off of python 2.2 |
| 15:30.10 | gonkulator | which is why it tells you to keep python 2.2 installed |
| 15:30.28 | captain_proton | except all the portage scripts start with #!/usr/bin/python |
| 15:30.34 | captain_proton | which is a link to /usr/bin/python2.3 |
| 15:30.50 | gonkulator | hmm, that is wacky |
| 15:34.28 | gonkulator | and a final :( |
| 15:35.30 | captain_proton | ok, leaving time |
| 15:35.39 | captain_proton | if anyone is planning to bum a ride, they should meet me outside |
| 15:35.45 | gonkulator | later captain_proton |
| 15:36.19 | file | 12/8/2003 3:43:00 AM ROUTED INCORRECTLY AT UPS FACILITY;DELIVERY RESCHEDULED MINNEAPOLIS, MN US GAH!!!! |
| 15:36.33 | gonkulator | file: any news on my stuff? |
| 15:37.39 | file | gonkulator: nope |
| 15:37.46 | gonkulator | k, thanks |
| 15:38.09 | file | Last Scan: 12/4/2003 11:00:00 PM IN TRANSIT TO |
| 15:38.09 | file | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:38.29 | gonkulator | nod |
| 15:41.20 | *** join/#tacobeam sbahra (~sbahra@dial37-208.sbm.net.sa) |
| 15:42.36 | gonkulator | doh |
| 15:44.28 | file | gonkulator: doh-doh bird? |
| 15:44.45 | gonkulator | no, I had yellow dog isos on nova that I didn't want/need |
| 15:44.48 | gonkulator | so I deleted them |
| 15:44.53 | file | oh ic |
| 15:56.27 | gonkulator | well, its time for me to go pick up a computer |
| 15:56.29 | gonkulator | later file |
| 16:03.06 | ChipX86 | I wish I knew what was with me dying in my sleep so much lately |
| 16:20.50 | *** join/#tacobeam pagefault (pagefault@142.204.246.208) |
| 16:25.12 | Cae|Sleep | hm. that seems unfun. |
| 16:27.26 | Cae | my dreams are back to normal, but I don't sleep long enough to be able to finish them, so they slip away |
| 16:28.18 | file | I had a cool dream lastnight... involved time travel, transporters, looking at my history, shopping, a PADD from star trek, being out of phase |
| 16:28.20 | file | no joke either |
| 16:28.32 | Cae | LOL |
| 16:28.35 | pagefault | interesting |
| 16:29.15 | file | some bad people tried to hop a ride on my transporter beam however... I had control via the PADD so I sent them elsewhere |
| 16:29.17 | file | MUAHAHAHAHAHA |
| 16:29.33 | Cae | lol |
| 16:33.58 | Cae | 2.63 lag. ick. |
| 16:34.19 | file | 1... 2.... 3... |
| 16:34.40 | Cae | 2.90, heh |
| 16:35.30 | Cae | local network's being hit by a lot of icmp traffic. |
| 16:36.55 | ChipX86 | back |
| 16:37.00 | file | ChipX86: front |
| 16:37.01 | Cae | wb |
| 16:37.03 | ChipX86 | Cae: well it's not even just dying anymore, like you die and wake up |
| 16:37.24 | ChipX86 | in this latest one, I was caught in some time loop thing on this planet that people called hell. At the end of each loop, the planet would explode |
| 16:37.41 | Cae | oh fun. |
| 16:37.42 | ChipX86 | I got to feel my body being ripped apart, and then just a black void of no feeling or movement for who knows how long, and then another loop |
| 16:37.46 | file | ChipX86: eh er uh uh huh... |
| 16:37.55 | ChipX86 | so not only am I just dying now, but I feel it and then I remain dead for awhile in my sleep |
| 16:38.18 | Cae | :\ |
| 16:38.22 | file | can't do lucid dreaming? |
| 16:41.10 | ChipX86 | I used to |
| 16:47.54 | Cae | lol |
| 16:49.04 | pagefault | http://forums.planethzl.com/index.php?showtopic=1705&st=0& |
| 16:49.20 | pagefault | funny things to look at if you are bored |
| 16:52.06 | Cae | LOL |
| 16:56.16 | Cae | that poor kid..heh |
| 16:57.57 | Cae | danke |
| 16:59.07 | *** join/#tacobeam sbahra (~sbahra@dial36-161.sbm.net.sa) |
| 16:59.51 | Cae | hey sbahra |
| 17:00.09 | sbahra | Hey |
| 17:05.27 | kergoth | morning |
| 17:05.57 | Cae | kergoth said morning..wow.. |
| 17:07.51 | sbahra | Hrm...I need a Linux kernel person :) |
| 17:07.56 | sbahra | Any of you dealt with it before? |
| 17:08.14 | pagefault | recompiling? |
| 17:08.25 | sbahra | pagefault: No. Kernel-space programming issues in general. |
| 17:08.44 | sbahra | pagefault: I'm porting something to FreeBSD, and I think I found a possible dead-lock with V4L code in Linux |
| 17:09.02 | pagefault | oh can't help you there |
| 17:09.02 | pagefault | sorry |
| 17:10.02 | sbahra | Ok. Thanks. |
| 17:14.48 | kergoth | sbahra: i work with kernel space issues on a daily basis. whats up? |
| 17:15.15 | sbahra | kergoth: :D |
| 17:15.21 | sbahra | http://fxr.watson.org/fxr/source/drivers/media/video/videodev.c?v=linux-2.6.0-test9#L204 |
| 17:15.29 | sbahra | Take a look at that please. |
| 17:15.34 | sbahra | 204 extern int video_exclusive_open(struct inode *inode, struct file *file) |
| 17:15.35 | sbahra | 205 { |
| 17:15.35 | sbahra | [...] |
| 17:15.46 | sbahra | 209 down(&vfl->lock); |
| 17:15.46 | sbahra | 210 if (vfl->users) { |
| 17:15.46 | sbahra | 211 retval = -EBUSY; |
| 17:15.46 | sbahra | [...] |
| 17:15.52 | sbahra | 215 up(&vfl->lock); |
| 17:15.53 | sbahra | 216 return retval; |
| 17:16.22 | sbahra | Now, if a user already has this device opened, then EBUSY is returned without unlocking the mutex vfl->lock |
| 17:17.05 | sbahra | So, next time exclusive_open is called, we will be blocking on the down() call. |
| 17:17.17 | sbahra | Well, depending on the type of lock we're talking about. This is specifically my question. |
| 17:17.46 | sbahra | This looks more like a dead-lock to me. |
| 17:18.07 | kergoth | i dont see what you mean. it doesnt return EBUSY without a call to up(). |
| 17:18.14 | sbahra | This should be: if (vfl->users) { up(&vfl->lock); return EBUSY; } |
| 17:18.34 | kergoth | it doesnt *return* EBUSY, it sets retval, which is subsequently used later |
| 17:18.49 | sbahra | errr |
| 17:18.56 | sbahra | Yeah. Doh. |
| 17:18.59 | kergoth | :) |
| 17:19.02 | kergoth | brb, soda run |
| 17:19.47 | sbahra | heh |
| 17:24.26 | Cae | time for class..see you guys later :) |
| 17:31.24 | sbahra | kergoth: I have been extremely strange these last two days, maybe not enough sleep. I wrote around 400 new lines of code for a piece of software, committed it, only to find out I misspelled around 60 or so variable references. |
| 17:31.38 | darth_mall | stupid oversleeping |
| 17:31.54 | kergoth | sbahra: ack. |
| 17:33.34 | sbahra | kergoth: I just found out the horror of that this morning. Luckily no one checked out the code after that check in :) |
| 18:04.53 | darth_mall | yay for my math teacher being nice |
| 18:05.52 | scanline | hiya darth_mall |
| 18:06.42 | darth_mall | mornin' scanline |
| 18:06.52 | darth_mall | what should I work on until phys? |
| 18:07.04 | pagefault | doodle |
| 18:07.41 | darth_mall | naw, I wanna do something somewhat constructive with my time |
| 18:08.01 | scanline | invent a new breakfast cereal |
| 18:08.19 | kergoth | hrmmmm |
| 18:08.29 | kergoth | libpcap is neat |
| 18:08.31 | darth_mall | scanline: that's a good idea, I'm hungry |
| 18:08.45 | kyric | MEROW!!!!! |
| 18:09.21 | darth_mall | oooh I know! scanline: are you in a position you oculd set up php w/o inconveniencing yourself? |
| 18:09.38 | scanline | ah, probably |
| 18:09.51 | kergoth | god i hate deadlines. |
| 18:09.58 | darth_mall | as long as it won't interrupt anything else you may be doing, that'd be really cool |
| 18:10.23 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 18:10.32 | kergoth | and i hate BSD w/ advert clause since i cant use code under that license in my lgpl lib.. bastards |
| 18:10.43 | kyric | someone should bring it to me...lol |
| 18:10.47 | sbahra | kergoth: Why not? |
| 18:11.02 | sbahra | kergoth: You can change the license itself as long as you include initialy copyright notice (or specified notice) |
| 18:11.23 | kergoth | sbahra: iirc, lgpl/gpl dont allow additional restrictions. the advert clause specifies that you have to note in advertising on the product that said code was used |
| 18:13.17 | sbahra | kergoth: Yes, though, how does this affect lgpl/gpl itself? Other than having that added clause... |
| 18:14.12 | pagefault | hmm |
| 18:14.59 | kergoth | its always been my understanding that the gpl doesnt allow you to impose additional restrictions. maybe i'm mistaken |
| 18:15.34 | kergoth | " 6. Each time you redistribute the Program (or any work based on the |
| 18:15.34 | kergoth | Program), the recipient automatically receives a license from the |
| 18:15.34 | kergoth | original licensor to copy, distribute or modify the Program subject to |
| 18:15.34 | kergoth | these terms and conditions. You may not impose any further |
| 18:15.34 | kergoth | restrictions on the recipients' exercise of the rights granted herein. |
| 18:15.36 | kergoth | You are not responsible for enforcing compliance by third parties to |
| 18:15.38 | kergoth | this License." |
| 18:15.41 | kergoth | </flood> |
| 18:15.51 | sbahra | Sucks. |
| 18:16.57 | sbahra | kergoth: Yes, you're referring to the original Berkeley license I take it then. The other clauses in there are an additional pain in the ass... |
| 18:17.34 | sbahra | kergoth: Which software is this exactly? |
| 18:17.47 | kergoth | yep, i'm referring to the fact that i wouldnt be able to use the version of BSD with those additioanl clauses in an LGPL library i'm doing, since that would impose those additional restrictions |
| 18:17.59 | kergoth | s/the version of BSD/code licensed under the version of BSD/ |
| 18:19.43 | sbahra | kergoth: That is, the BSD licensed software... |
| 18:20.29 | kergoth | ping.c from findutils :) |
| 18:20.33 | kergoth | er |
| 18:20.34 | kergoth | iputils |
| 18:20.37 | kergoth | god i need more caffeine |
| 18:21.12 | pagefault | they need a concentrated version of it |
| 18:23.07 | purple_cow | yay its me |
| 18:23.18 | scanline | yay |
| 18:23.35 | sbahra | Hey purple_cow, scanline |
| 18:24.09 | purple_cow | so yeah, it appears that portage is using python 2.3 |
| 18:24.33 | scanline | spiffy |
| 18:25.49 | purple_cow | unnngh |
| 18:28.50 | darth_mall | hmmm... no response yet from the lab partner |
| 18:29.32 | pagefault | has someone made a USB coffee maker yet? |
| 18:29.53 | purple_cow | pagefault: i was toying with the idea a couple years ago |
| 18:30.30 | pagefault | would be neat |
| 18:31.09 | scanline | purple_cow: you could stick an rcpod and a couple relays and therms on our coffee table :) |
| 18:32.36 | purple_cow | heh |
| 18:35.12 | darth_mall | pagefault: I've seen a casemod with a builtin coffee maker |
| 18:36.21 | pagefault | cool |
| 18:36.27 | purple_cow | but i don't think the mod was actually computer controlled |
| 18:36.30 | pagefault | it would be nice to have a portable one though |
| 18:36.33 | sbahra | Cool. IIRC, it was at the Mini-ITX page (or atleast referenced there) |
| 18:36.33 | pagefault | plug into your notebook |
| 18:36.35 | pagefault | and run it off that |
| 18:36.43 | sbahra | purple_cow: This wasn't. |
| 18:36.52 | purple_cow | i doubt you could bus-power a coffee maker :) |
| 18:37.02 | sbahra | This sounds like a decent project to me :) |
| 18:37.05 | pagefault | maybe if you used enough USB ports |
| 18:37.05 | pagefault | hehe |
| 18:37.37 | purple_cow | pagefault: well - most motherboards power per-bus, not per-port |
| 18:37.44 | pagefault | ah really? |
| 18:37.51 | purple_cow | and i think the max you can request is 500ma |
| 18:38.09 | scanline | purple_cow: max is indeed 500ma, but most ports on the motherboard are on their own bus |
| 18:38.32 | purple_cow | scanline: depends - i have 2 busses & 4 ports |
| 18:38.39 | pagefault | well time to jet |
| 18:38.39 | scanline | hmm |
| 18:38.40 | pagefault | exam time |
| 18:38.56 | scanline | well, lurgyman just needs to invent a DC-DC converter with greater than 100% efficiency |
| 18:38.59 | pagefault | cya |
| 18:39.17 | purple_cow | i suppose that motherboards with only 2 ports would have each on a bus, due to the chipset having them |
| 18:39.35 | scanline | all my machines are 2-port with each on a separate bus |
| 18:39.55 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 18:40.00 | purple_cow | the payphone is ringing |
| 18:40.05 | scanline | hah |
| 18:41.08 | purple_cow | nobody answered it |
| 18:43.23 | scanline | hmm |
| 18:48.19 | darth_mall | hmmm... this is really odd |
| 18:49.18 | darth_mall | I changed the read function in pyHangman to use urlopen() instead of open() so that it would work for grabbing data from dictionary.com too |
| 18:49.29 | darth_mall | and it loads local files fine... but it hoses the menu bar |
| 18:49.49 | darth_mall | oh well, I'll fix it later, time for clas snow |
| 18:49.56 | sbahra | See you darth_mall |
| 19:04.41 | darth_mall | yay fun with phys |
| 19:09.32 | lurgyman | well that was exciting |
| 19:10.03 | lurgyman | scanline: yes sir, i'll get straight to work on that |
| 19:10.21 | kergoth | hrm |
| 19:10.57 | darth_mall | hi lurgy |
| 19:11.03 | gonkulator | hey darth_mall |
| 19:12.09 | lurgyman | mornin darth_mall |
| 19:12.14 | lurgyman | are you back at home now? :) |
| 19:12.31 | gonkulator | hi lurgyman |
| 19:12.51 | lurgyman | heya gonkulator |
| 19:13.11 | darth_mall | mornin gonk |
| 19:13.20 | darth_mall | lurgyman, in phys now |
| 19:13.37 | darth_mall | you were desiring I, Clavdivs? |
| 19:13.43 | lurgyman | :) |
| 19:13.54 | darth_mall | when I get home? |
| 19:13.58 | gonkulator | dumb dumb dumb |
| 19:14.00 | lurgyman | okeydokey |
| 19:14.02 | lurgyman | when's that? |
| 19:14.04 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 19:14.07 | lurgyman | gonkulator: oh no! |
| 19:14.15 | gonkulator | lurgyman: now I feel like I am gonna splode |
| 19:14.17 | darth_mall | 1:20 ish |
| 19:14.37 | gonkulator | darth_mall: when you get home, I'll be taking my first final :) |
| 19:14.51 | lurgyman | darth_mall: cool, sounds good |
| 19:15.14 | gonkulator | lurgyman: you should vote crooks off the apartment |
| 19:15.19 | gonkulator | and vote me on :) |
| 19:16.12 | lurgyman | heh |
| 19:16.18 | lurgyman | gonkulator: sure, but you get the small room :) |
| 19:16.23 | gonkulator | ok, now I let my brain and stomach settle |
| 19:16.25 | darth_mall | can you vote people onto the island |
| 19:16.28 | gonkulator | lurgyman: works for me :) |
| 19:16.29 | darth_mall | ? |
| 19:17.13 | kergoth | hrm |
| 19:17.19 | lurgyman | http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/portage/portage-ng/systemspec.xml |
| 19:19.24 | darth_mall | weee wavelengths |
| 19:27.55 | darth_mall | yay1 |
| 19:28.02 | darth_mall | s/1/!/ |
| 19:28.08 | lurgyman | oh yeah? |
| 19:28.09 | lurgyman | well |
| 19:28.09 | lurgyman | yay2 |
| 19:31.55 | darth_mall | yay3 |
| 19:31.58 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 19:32.22 | lurgyman | noooo |
| 19:33.24 | darth_mall | cmon lurgyman, you can do it |
| 19:33.30 | kergoth | bleh |
| 19:33.49 | lurgyman | umm |
| 19:33.51 | lurgyman | yayi? |
| 19:34.03 | scanline | arrr.. can't get a wireless connection on my laptop here |
| 19:34.10 | scanline | I can ping the base station fine |
| 19:35.18 | scanline | hrm |
| 19:35.23 | scanline | but I can't get to it over SNMP |
| 19:37.13 | lurgyman | :( |
| 19:40.38 | scanline | hrm |
| 19:41.01 | scanline | looks like something funky with the wireless on my laptop |
| 19:42.45 | kyric | hiya |
| 19:43.06 | sbahra | Hey |
| 19:43.07 | sbahra | Bye |
| 19:43.14 | lurgyman | hiya kyric |
| 19:43.29 | kyric | is it possible to transfer something from where i am, to navi, and back again? |
| 19:43.38 | lurgyman | sure |
| 19:43.51 | lurgyman | do you have ssh where you are? |
| 19:43.56 | kyric | on it |
| 19:44.03 | lurgyman | cool |
| 19:44.17 | lurgyman | yep, you'd just connect to navi.picogui.org with ssh |
| 19:44.30 | lurgyman | if it's windows, you'd use the file transfer client |
| 19:45.29 | scanline | hrmm |
| 19:45.33 | scanline | methinks something's wrong with the 802.11 on my laptop |
| 19:45.39 | lurgyman | :( |
| 19:45.42 | scanline | wired ethernet works fine |
| 19:46.09 | lurgyman | :) |
| 19:46.09 | scanline | of course, it could also be the base station |
| 19:46.37 | scanline | ah well.. the soundtracks will copy faster this way >:) |
| 19:47.01 | lurgyman | yay for taking listening exams w/o actually having listened to any of the material for them |
| 19:47.17 | kyric | this is going to take forever |
| 19:47.24 | lurgyman | :( |
| 19:47.33 | scanline | kyric: this is that big movie? |
| 19:47.49 | scanline | kyric: if you just need to get to it elsewhere on campus, it would be faster to store it at spacegrant |
| 19:47.49 | kyric | yea |
| 19:48.00 | scanline | you have an account on thinker.colorado.edu? |
| 19:48.13 | kyric | yea, but i have to get it to space grant |
| 19:48.30 | scanline | you can use ssh to copy it to thinker |
| 19:48.36 | kyric | argh serious lag |
| 19:48.54 | kyric | and no, no account on thinker |
| 19:49.00 | kyric | cani use yours? |
| 19:49.02 | scanline | no |
| 19:49.09 | kyric | damn |
| 19:49.19 | scanline | get an account on thinker |
| 19:49.25 | scanline | talk to dave |
| 19:49.30 | kyric | i am not at work or near work |
| 19:50.01 | scanline | mmkay... I don't suppose you have any other accounts on campus? |
| 19:50.05 | kyric | merrrg. |
| 19:50.16 | kyric | i have ftp, but it wouldn't let me copy there |
| 19:50.27 | scanline | ftp on which machine? |
| 19:51.01 | kyric | merrrg? just ftp://itll-users.colorado.edu |
| 19:51.46 | scanline | mmkay, don't know anything about that server :) |
| 19:51.53 | lurgyman | looks like an MS server |
| 19:51.58 | lurgyman | so it probably won't help us |
| 19:52.26 | lurgyman | unless we wanted to start trying to play with smbmount stuff, but that's messy, unpleasant and unreliable |
| 19:52.50 | kyric | sigh |
| 19:52.56 | kyric | i think we got it burned to 3 cds |
| 19:53.10 | lurgyman | that works too |
| 19:53.12 | kyric | so i will just rip it from cd to the laptop att SG, |
| 19:53.19 | scanline | 3 CDs? |
| 19:53.25 | scanline | I don't think thinker has that much disk space :) |
| 19:53.39 | kyric | yes, 3 cds |
| 19:54.25 | kyric | the file is 1339932672Kb |
| 19:54.52 | kyric | a nifty 6 minute movie, if you are around later, there is a high probability of me making you watch it |
| 19:55.12 | scanline | good god |
| 19:55.15 | scanline | 6 minutes? |
| 19:55.18 | lurgyman | 6 minutes? |
| 19:55.21 | scanline | have you ever heard of compression? |
| 19:55.24 | lurgyman | 1339932672Kb? |
| 19:55.31 | kyric | yea |
| 19:55.32 | lurgyman | yikes |
| 19:55.45 | lurgyman | the resolution on that must be amazing |
| 19:55.53 | scanline | kyric: most computers don't have enough hard disk bandwidth to play movies with that high a data rate |
| 19:56.01 | kyric | scanline: are you at work, want to help me with this |
| 19:56.04 | scanline | kyric: it will be really choppy and gross, besides being enormously disgustingly huge |
| 19:56.08 | scanline | I'm not at work |
| 19:56.19 | scanline | what did you make the movie in? |
| 19:56.25 | scanline | heh |
| 19:56.28 | scanline | what program saved it? |
| 19:56.32 | kyric | pincle |
| 19:56.41 | scanline | wazzat? |
| 19:56.43 | scanline | lurgyman: hehe |
| 19:56.54 | lurgyman | :( |
| 19:57.21 | kyric | scanline: when are you coming to school? |
| 19:58.09 | scanline | kyric: I have a class at 3:00 and two meetings after that |
| 19:58.35 | kyric | any chance of talking you into helping me before then |
| 19:58.49 | scanline | dunno, I need to do homework before leaving |
| 19:59.02 | kyric | k |
| 20:00.11 | scanline | kyric: I'd suggest going back to the program you used to make it and looking for more options about the format to save it in |
| 20:00.21 | scanline | kyric: you probably told it somewhere to save it without any compression |
| 20:01.08 | kyric | the file is also compressed into 3 bits...hence 3 cds |
| 20:02.10 | scanline | I doubt it's compressed at all |
| 20:02.26 | kyric | arhg. |
| 20:02.40 | scanline | you could fit several full-lenght movies into a file that big |
| 20:02.54 | kyric | if i were to bring the cds home could you help me? |
| 20:03.10 | scanline | I could, but like I said I have homework to do before class |
| 20:03.24 | kyric | k |
| 20:03.29 | scanline | just go back to the program you saved them in and look for options |
| 20:03.39 | kyric | ok, sorry go do your hw |
| 20:03.41 | scanline | it will be much better than trying to glue the three CDs back together and recompress |
| 20:05.28 | kyric | ok, cya |
| 20:05.32 | scanline | good luck |
| 20:18.16 | darth_mall | it's good to be home |
| 20:25.24 | darth_mall | soooo hungry |
| 20:28.33 | darth_mall | yay sparkley lurgyman! |
| 20:30.37 | darth_mall | ha! outsmarted the tatertots this time |
| 20:30.45 | darth_mall | didn't spill any onto the bottom of the oven |
| 20:33.29 | darth_mall | scanline: you downstairs? |
| 20:33.34 | scanline | yep |
| 20:33.44 | darth_mall | want coffee? |
| 20:34.38 | darth_mall | well, I'll make enough so that if you want some there is some |
| 20:35.19 | lurgyman | woyhoo |
| 20:35.36 | scanline | mmm.. I could use some coffee |
| 20:46.34 | scanline | wow, ogre is looking better and better |
| 20:46.45 | scanline | and crystalspace seems to be less stable than usual :-/ |
| 20:50.00 | darth_mall | yay Patric Stewart |
| 20:50.06 | darth_mall | and yay breakfast for lunch |
| 20:50.42 | scanline | I thought that sounded like him... |
| 20:51.20 | darth_mall | he is definitely one of my favorite actors |
| 20:51.22 | darth_mall | he's so talented |
| 20:52.13 | Cae|Class | hm. I don't feel like doing this lab.. |
| 20:52.28 | darth_mall | hi Cae |
| 20:52.31 | darth_mall | scanline: coffee's done |
| 20:52.50 | scanline | YAY |
| 20:53.02 | Cae | lab's are..25% of total grade..and there's seven.. |
| 20:53.20 | darth_mall | Cae: you can do it! |
| 20:53.35 | Cae | I don't wanna :( |
| 20:53.55 | darth_mall | Cae: I have faith in you |
| 20:54.12 | Cae | we drop one lab |
| 20:57.00 | Cae | and one quiz |
| 20:57.11 | darth_mall | but Cae... |
| 20:57.20 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 20:57.23 | file | I feel like I'm forgetting something... |
| 20:58.10 | darth_mall | file: you forgot to do my hw |
| 20:58.20 | Cae | LOL |
| 20:58.21 | file | darth_mall: besides that |
| 20:58.23 | Cae | okay |
| 20:59.36 | Cae | I can lose at least another 3% on my grade, probably, and not suffer at all. |
| 20:59.53 | Cae | so..I'll do the lab. |
| 20:59.58 | Cae | after I eat lunch. this is ugly.. |
| 21:05.29 | Cae | I can skip the lab or the final. |
| 21:05.44 | Cae | knowing me, I'll go to the final anyway. |
| 21:05.55 | Cae | I hate file i/o with java |
| 21:06.23 | Cae | LOL |
| 21:06.42 | Cae | file file file |
| 21:06.49 | Cae | ack, lag |
| 21:11.14 | Cae | heh |
| 21:23.57 | captain_proton | mmm, coffee |
| 21:24.50 | Cae | screw the lab. |
| 21:25.16 | captain_proton | that's the spirit! |
| 21:25.25 | Cae | rofl |
| 21:25.56 | Cae | time to go hand in my little paper thingie then |
| 21:27.39 | scanline | hrm, I should really head campuswards too |
| 21:29.55 | darth_mall | captain_proton: when are you leaving? |
| 21:29.59 | scanline | :) |
| 21:30.28 | captain_proton | heh |
| 21:30.34 | captain_proton | guess i better do more coffee then |
| 21:30.47 | scanline | well, no big deal if you can't |
| 21:39.59 | carpman | toang |
| 21:57.03 | kergoth | arg |
| 21:58.58 | gonkulator | one class down, four to go |
| 22:11.18 | gonkulator | my my my... look at the snow |
| 22:11.44 | file | really? really? must I? |
| 22:11.58 | gonkulator | file: its snowing here too, though not as much as it is up there |
| 22:12.03 | gonkulator | file: shipment status? |
| 22:12.04 | file | oooh ic |
| 22:12.07 | file | no change |
| 22:12.33 | gonkulator | file: ok |
| 22:15.10 | file | hehe |
| 22:21.18 | kergoth | hm |
| 22:21.40 | kergoth | note to self: when you hit irssi window #30, its time to quit some channels |
| 22:22.11 | kergoth | thatd be past time |
| 22:22.18 | gonkulator | erm.. 37 |
| 22:25.35 | kergoth | yo hardwire |
| 22:26.43 | gonkulator | wow, Compaq is competing with Dell's $499 PC |
| 22:27.41 | gonkulator | kergoth: you just got blown off |
| 22:28.33 | kergoth | hrmph. |
| 22:30.39 | gonkulator | hey kergoth, does irssi highlight only when your name is at the front, or if your name is in the message |
| 22:31.43 | purple_cow | wibble |
| 22:31.51 | gonkulator | hi purple_cow |
| 22:34.10 | gonkulator | kergoth: mine only highlights when someone starts with my name, I want to know if it has the xchat behaviour thats a config away before I research the config stuff |
| 22:34.56 | purple_cow | furkin' mablat |
| 22:34.57 | purple_cow | err |
| 22:34.58 | purple_cow | matlab |
| 22:38.01 | gonkulator | but first, I install win2k on gluon |
| 22:40.49 | kergoth | damnit |
| 22:41.04 | kergoth | i hate it when i accidentally hit ctrl+s, and sit there thinking the ssh session died |
| 22:41.12 | purple_cow | classtime |
| 22:41.20 | gonkulator | later pru |
| 22:41.25 | gonkulator | later purple_cow even |
| 22:51.39 | *** join/#tacobeam pagefault (~pagefault@Toronto-HSE-ppp3821654.sympatico.ca) |
| 23:10.06 | scanline | bah! |
| 23:10.22 | scanline | I label this wire in really big letters "ESD mat, leave connected" and I get here and it's disconnected |