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| 15:54.38 | iffy | is storm maintained? I'm considering forking it and maintaining it internally to our company; there are bugs that haven't been fixed in 4 years |
| 15:54.44 | iffy | is that okay? |
| 16:01.04 | iffy | niemeyer: ^ |
| 16:01.42 | niemeyer | iffy: That's an excellent conversation to have |
| 16:02.11 | niemeyer | iffy: Unfortunately, I cannot have it right now as I have people waiting for me right now |
| 16:02.21 | iffy | k, I'll be here later |
| 16:02.23 | niemeyer | iffy: Can you please send me a mail with your concerns? |
| 16:02.34 | iffy | sure; are you @jabber as it says on lp? |
| 16:02.43 | niemeyer | iffy: It'll be a good started for an internal debate of what's going on, and we can then mail you back |
| 16:02.54 | niemeyer | iffy: gustavo@niemeyer.net |
| 16:02.59 | iffy | will do |
| 16:03.09 | niemeyer | iffy: Even better in this case: gustavo.niemeyer@canonical.com |
| 16:03.17 | niemeyer | iffy: Thanks, I'll get back to you |
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| 16:18.12 | iffy | niemeyer: sent; thank you! |
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| 16:58.37 | niemeyer | iffy: Do you have anyone with good experience on Storm's internals there? |
| 16:59.15 | iffy | niemeyer: I'm probably the most experienced. I've read through most of the source (though I don't understand everything) |
| 16:59.45 | niemeyer | iffy: Some of the people that worked the most in Storm have left the company, which explains part of the problem |
| 17:00.31 | niemeyer | iffy: The best outcome of the current conversation would be if we could re-assemble a team of maintainers |
| 17:00.40 | niemeyer | iffy: With people that know and care about Storm still |
| 17:01.54 | niemeyer | iffy: Bonus points for having someone out of Canonical as part of that team |
| 17:02.02 | iffy | :) |
| 17:02.31 | iffy | niemeyer: I care about Storm as it relates to work. But I don't think I would maintain it as a hobby. |
| 17:04.17 | iffy | (mostly because I have too many other hobby projects already) |
| 17:05.06 | niemeyer | iffy: Well, the important thing is that you care, for one reason or another.. it's not going to be a hobby for any of us.. we just want the project to remain healthy so that everybody that depends on it can benefit |
| 17:05.22 | iffy | niemeyer: I would be willing to hunt down and contribute failing tests for these flush errors, and maybe I should just learn what all the flushing is about, then I could submit patches, too |
| 17:05.26 | niemeyer | iffy: We still have large projects using it |
| 17:05.41 | niemeyer | iffy: The fact it's being dormant is actually a good one |
| 17:05.49 | niemeyer | iffy: It means it tends to work :) |
| 17:05.52 | iffy | niemeyer: Yes; it mostly works |
| 17:05.56 | iffy | 99% of the time |
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| 17:07.09 | niemeyer | iffy: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/289078/ |
| 17:07.20 | niemeyer | iffy: Do you still have the content of that paste? |
| 17:07.37 | iffy | niemeyer: no :( I've learned my pastebin lesson |
| 17:07.54 | iffy | I think it might be represented well in therve's test case patch |
| 17:09.00 | niemeyer | Cool |
| 17:11.12 | iffy | niemeyer: So, yes, I'm willing to help out in general, and I think it would be better for everyone if Storm wasn't forked. |
| 17:11.51 | niemeyer | iffy: Even more if you don't think the fork would have a better chance of remaining active |
| 17:12.10 | iffy | We're working right now on a sscce for our current problem which I'll turn into a failing test, I hope. |
| 17:12.37 | iffy | I'm not sure if therve's patch fixed our current problem (despite what I said in my email). |
| 17:12.53 | niemeyer | iffy: I'm getting in touch with a few great developers that I know have worked on or around Storm in the past.. I'm sure we'll come up with a good plan for keeping the software in a proper maintenance state |
| 17:13.38 | iffy | niemeyer: That sounds great. Thank you! Let me know what I can do to help as well. |
| 17:13.45 | niemeyer | iffy: I don't understand the patch myself yet.. if nobody else takes the lead on this, I'll dig in and find out what's going on with the bug, and what would be the proper fix |
| 17:42.43 | niemeyer | iffy: Alright, we already have a pair of people interested.. we'll see who else from other projects might join in |
| 17:42.47 | niemeyer | iffy: You'll have a fix for this soon |
| 17:43.00 | iffy | +niemeyer thank you! |
| 17:43.24 | niemeyer | iffy: np, and sorry that it's effectively taking so long for that one issue to get a fix merged |
| 17:43.56 | iffy | no worries; I appreciate your help |
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