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| 22:36.42 | Gratz474 | I was thinking about giving storm or geniusql a try I like the syntax of those better then sa / django stuff |
| 22:38.30 | jkakar | Gratz474: Nice! |
| 22:38.42 | jkakar | Gratz474: Feel free to ask questions if you run into issues. |
| 22:40.03 | Gratz474 | http://www.aminus.net/geniusql/browser/trunk/geniusql << Looks a *bit* like a dead project |
| 22:40.08 | Gratz474 | but maybe not |
| 22:41.02 | jkakar | Gratz474: Could be. I've never heard of it. |
| 22:41.30 | Gratz474 | Well I guess it has some activity. |
| 22:41.53 | Gratz474 | yea jkakar I am just not in the mood to use another complicated orm, The django orm really urks me with all the time I spent with it |
| 22:42.23 | jkakar | Gratz474: Yeah, complication is sad. |
| 22:42.37 | Gratz474 | There is no point in it, but everyone thinks differently |
| 22:42.47 | jkakar | Gratz474: I can't promise you that Storm is not complicated, but we've tried very hard to make Storm easy to use. |
| 22:43.02 | Gratz474 | Looking through the docs it looks to be very simple |
| 22:43.12 | jkakar | I like it. :) |
| 22:43.25 | Gratz474 | I just would like to make a good choice as this might have an upward of a consistent 500 queries per/sec |
| 22:44.04 | jkakar | Sure. |
| 22:44.14 | Gratz474 | a min of 250 |
| 22:44.16 | jkakar | We use Storm on big projects like Launchpad, Landscape and Ubuntu One. |
| 22:44.32 | Gratz474 | is it threadsafe? |
| 22:44.36 | jkakar | It's a bit hard to say whether or not it'll support N queries/second because of course it depends on the queries. |
| 22:44.43 | jkakar | It depends what you mean by thread-safe. |
| 22:44.52 | jkakar | You're meant to use a Store only in the thread it was created. |
| 22:45.01 | jkakar | But you can use many threads, each with it's own store. |
| 22:45.25 | jkakar | Create a store in one thread and then handing it off to another thread to do something with it will cause problems. |
| 22:45.40 | jkakar | So, yes, it's thread safe if you use it correctly. |
| 22:46.00 | Gratz474 | What web framework do you use jkakar? |
| 22:46.02 | jkakar | The applications we use Storm in are multithreaded, and we honour this one store/thread model and haven't had issues. |
| 22:46.19 | jkakar | Zope 3 primarily, though there is a Django middleware layer you can use if you want to use Storm with Django. |
| 22:46.33 | jkakar | Using it with Django works fine, but you don't get the benefit of the admin interface when you do that. |
| 22:46.42 | jkakar | Which is a big reason to use Django, in my opinion. |
| 22:47.21 | jkakar | There is also a twisted-integration branch you can use. It's not in trunk, but people are successfully using it in production systems. |
| 22:47.31 | Gratz474 | I actually use Cherrypy |
| 22:47.49 | Gratz474 | I used to be a very big django user, but that admin really has its ups and downs |
| 22:49.21 | Gratz474 | I never ran into the issue but there used to be some threading issues in uisng cherrypy with certain orms |
| 22:52.15 | Gratz474 | Here is a little bit of info on it |
| 22:52.16 | Gratz474 | http://tools.cherrypy.org/wiki/Databases |
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