| 00:01:12 | cmarqu | Hi DaveH! |
| 00:02:08 | DaveH | Im trying to work out the best way to handle Datastore in storm_c |
| 00:26:50 | DaveH | is back (gone 01:49:21) |
| 00:26:53 | DaveH | is away: I'm busy |
| 18:50:54 | spung | DaveH: hey, are you there? |
| 18:58:55 | DaveH | Sorta yea |
| 19:00:06 | DaveH | is back (gone 18:33:17) |
| 19:34:07 | spung | DaveH: are you working on storm-c? |
| 19:35:28 | DaveH | Yea as we speak |
| 19:36:31 | DaveH | Howe can i help you ? |
| 19:37:35 | spung | DaveH: why is it in C++? |
| 19:38:00 | DaveH | As opposed to C ? |
| 19:38:26 | spung | yes |
| 19:39:03 | DaveH | because a Im a C++ programmer and prefer working in C++ b) python is an OO lang so its a lot easyer to convert to another OO lang ? |
| 19:39:49 | spung | not necessarily |
| 19:39:58 | DaveH | The idea is to try and keep the structure of storm and storm C as close as is practicle to aid in upgrading both packages |
| 19:40:29 | spung | i think dc didn't like the idea of using C++ |
| 19:40:33 | spung | am i not correct? |
| 19:41:08 | DaveH | I dont think so Both I and lars have been planning this in C++ from the begining |
| 19:41:21 | DaveH | And have talked with him about it .. |
| 19:42:32 | spung | oh well, guess it's time for me to learn C++ |
| 19:43:21 | spung | but C is so beautifully simple :) |
| 19:43:24 | DaveH | Nods C++ is not as hard as it seems .. |
| 19:43:39 | DaveH | nods |
| 19:43:49 | spung | nods? |
| 19:44:14 | DaveH | I coded in C for several years .. Im happier with C++ though strong supporter of the OO paradigm |
| 19:44:53 | DaveH | have you looked at the storm code much ? |
| 19:44:59 | spung | not yet |
| 19:45:10 | spung | the CVS tree hasn't been updated for a while.. |
| 19:45:53 | DaveH | nods .. im working from an older version I think .. IE CVS .. |
| 19:45:59 | spung | ohh.. you mean.. storm python? |
| 19:46:04 | DaveH | yea |
| 19:46:13 | spung | not really.. |
| 19:46:28 | spung | i added some stuff to today.py |
| 19:46:35 | spung | not much more |
| 19:47:16 | DaveH | Im just getting started with storm_c should be putting the ostorm class into CVS tommorow .. just the basic structure .. python being a loosely typed language it takes a while to find all the vars etc |
| 19:47:58 | spung | heh |
| 19:48:20 | spung | DaveH: any nice on-line book for C --> C++ ? :) |
| 19:49:18 | spung | but.. will Storm C use GTK+ or GTK-- ? |
| 19:49:32 | DaveH | erm yea there are ... But I have the scott mayers books on CD .. Ill see if I can work out a way of getting them to you .. |
| 19:49:42 | DaveH | GTK1.2 |
| 19:50:49 | spung | DaveH: but, if we are using the C version of GTK (and not the C++ version) why use C++ for storm? :) |
| 19:50:56 | spung | (last try to persuade you) |
| 19:51:14 | DaveH | http://www.4p8.com/eric.brasseur/cppcen.html |
| 19:51:40 | spung | DaveH: thanks, if you can send me those books you have on CD it'd be great :) |
| 19:52:05 | DaveH | Ill try and get the ISO for you ... what sort of connection do you have ? |
| 19:52:47 | spung | DaveH: cable |
| 19:53:15 | DaveH | hold on im gonna try summit |
| 19:53:16 | spung | DaveH: i get 70kB/s i think |
| 19:54:09 | DaveH | Darn just realised my web server dosent have a CDROM on it ;-< have to copy it |
| 20:07:14 | spung | DaveH: btw, shouldn't Storm C use GTK2? |
| 20:07:44 | spung | maybe not.. gtk2 still needs some changes for ipaq use :\ |
| 20:08:08 | DaveH | nods and prolly will when i get to that stage .. but we only have the GTK1.2 lib available for familiar atm ... or at leastt last time i looked .. You could package gtk++ if you liked ;-> |
| 20:13:27 | spung | DaveH: i gotta go do something leave me a msg when the CD is available :) if possible of course. thanks. cya |
| 20:13:31 | spung | is away: actually, I *am* here. I'm just not paying attention to you |
| 20:40:20 | DaveH | spung goto http://www.adeliesolutions.com/effc++/INDEX.HTM |
| 20:40:27 | DaveH | im mounted the book there |
| 21:19:12 | spung | is back (gone 00:02:59) |
| 21:19:48 | spung | DaveH: i seem to be unable to access that page |
| 21:22:03 | DaveH | can you access www.adeliesolutions.com ? |
| 21:23:04 | spung | no |
| 21:23:05 | spung | Alert!: Unexpected network read error; connection aborted. |
| 21:23:57 | DaveH | Hmmm confussed .. |
| 21:25:11 | spung | maybe it's my problem |
| 21:25:16 | spung | i can access slashdot.org |
| 21:25:31 | spung | and most pages, i think |
| 21:26:10 | DaveH | Nods .. we need to see ifsomeone else can access it .. Im on the same network so I may have screwed up my firewall |
| 21:26:19 | spung | yeah |
| 21:27:38 | DaveH | No one I can really ask is online atm |
| 21:28:21 | spung | hmmm.. |
| 21:28:25 | spung | it's my problem |
| 21:28:26 | spung | i think |
| 21:28:44 | spung | someone with my ISP can.. |
| 21:29:02 | DaveH | Of course if anyone asks I never did this ... |
| 21:29:12 | spung | :)) |
| 21:29:22 | spung | DaveH: i can access it now |
| 21:29:30 | spung | did you change any firewall settings? |
| 21:29:30 | DaveH | cool got the book ? |
| 21:29:37 | DaveH | just reran them |
| 21:29:57 | spung | ah pok |
| 21:30:26 | DaveH | Its a good book |
| 21:30:42 | spung | (wget -m -np)ing it :) |
| 21:31:09 | spung | thanks a lot :) |
| 21:31:38 | spung | do you have anymore nice CD's? (kiddin' won't bother anymore :)) work on storm C :P) |
| 21:31:54 | DaveH | Of course it was only put there for my personnel use ... you just happened to find it while I wasent looking ;-> |
| 21:34:59 | spung | right :) |
| 21:35:49 | spung | DaveH: is it this small? |
| 21:35:51 | DaveH | Im having trouble with my familiar dist atm I upgraded it a few weeks back and lost all my ethernet support ... think Im gonna have to sort it now |
| 21:35:52 | spung | Downloaded: 877,169 bytes in 126 files |
| 21:36:24 | DaveH | cool |
| 21:36:42 | spung | are you sure? |
| 21:36:51 | DaveH | hang on |
| 21:37:53 | DaveH | /dev/cdroms/cdrom1 32448 32448 0 100% /cdrom |
| 21:38:20 | DaveH | dosent look right |
| 21:38:46 | DaveH | you can read it from the site if you like I dont intend to take it off |
| 21:38:57 | spung | ok, thanks |
| 21:41:27 | spung | DaveH: i think it's because the use of javascript for link generation |
| 21:42:18 | spung | if it's not too much trouble could tgz that :)) or maybe allow server side generation of indexes... |
| 21:42:23 | spung | that would help wget :P |
| 21:42:46 | DaveH | possibly .. I just scped it accross to my web server its seems fine there |
| 21:49:39 | DaveH | 1872 f\iles |
| 21:52:15 | spung | yeah, could you tgz it or active apache file indexing? |
| 21:52:28 | DaveH | Im tgzing it now |
| 21:53:04 | spung | gracias |
| 21:53:05 | spung | :) |
| 22:08:21 | DaveH | dcc |
| 22:08:49 | spung | thanks :) |
| 22:08:58 | spung | hmm.. you have fast upload nice |
| 22:10:04 | DaveH | Nods earthlink seems to have make a error on my connection ... think my upload is 384k |
| 22:12:56 | spung | eheh |
| 22:14:03 | DaveH | got it ? |
| 22:14:37 | spung | yup, tanks a lot :) |
| 22:15:12 | DaveH | let me know if it works ok .. |
| 22:20:16 | spung | DaveH: tar just complains dates are in the future, heh. other than that every seems to work fine. thanks :) |
| 22:22:44 | DaveH | where are you in the world ? |
| 22:24:01 | spung | Portugal |
| 22:24:50 | DaveH | Nods Im in the US im not sure what the time diff is but my bios is an hour out not sure is its fast or slow |
| 22:26:09 | DaveH | Ok im going to buy beer and chips .. see ya later |
| 22:26:15 | spung | heh |
| 22:26:20 | spung | cya |
| 22:28:09 | DaveH | gotta prioritise man |
| 22:28:53 | spung | :) |
| 22:29:25 | spung | where are you? |
| 22:31:20 | spung | it should be earlier there |
| 22:31:23 | spung | weird |
| 23:46:59 | DaveH | im in GA its 750pm here atm |