| 10:52:22 | dc_ | hey DaveH |
| 13:10:51 | wizly | hi |
| 13:11:53 | dc___ | hey |
| 13:12:18 | wizly | hi |
| 13:12:22 | wizly | watching F1 :)_ |
| 13:13:51 | dc___ | cool |
| 13:14:15 | wizly | mmm it was better if schumacher wasn't so good... ;( |
| 13:18:29 | dc___ | hehe, yeah. |
| 13:18:31 | dc___ | lol |
| 13:19:11 | wizly | one question, what window-manager are you using on ipaq? |
| 13:25:06 | dc___ | wizly: matchbox :] |
| 13:25:10 | dc___ | wizly: oh and! http://storm-pim.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html |
| 13:27:08 | wizly | I see it.. nice |
| 13:27:20 | wizly | but that screenshots are taken from one ipaq? |
| 13:43:01 | dc | wizly: hell no iPAQ. my desktop :] |
| 13:43:54 | wizly | aha... i don't know to take screenshots from my ipaq |
| 13:46:48 | | scap is, like, http://handhelds.org/scap/ or a CGI application now |
| 13:46:48 | dc | ibot scap |
| 13:46:59 | dc | wizly: use scap |
| 13:48:37 | wizly | scap? ok, I try it |
| 15:01:38 | dc | hwy'a cmarqu :) |
| 15:01:48 | dc | cmarqu: how's it? |
| 15:04:04 | cmarqu | dc: Hi. Just getting my coffee... |
| 15:11:49 | wizly | hi cmarqu |
| 15:11:50 | wizly | :) |
| 15:12:29 | cmarqu | Hi wizly |
| 15:15:25 | dc | L) |
| 15:15:27 | dc | :) |
| 16:11:18 | DaveH | dc__: Well thanks to the wonderfully accurate weatherforcast we have nice sunny weather here .... Dont give up though Im going to get some pics of sunny fields and add storms later I think will look better that way ;-> |
| 16:11:28 | DaveH | is away: I'm busy |
| 16:11:41 | wizly | bye bye |
| 16:22:33 | dc__ | DaveH: hehehe :) |
| 16:55:35 | DaveH | Nods well got some pics from the local golf course just need to wait for a storm now ... man its hum,id out there |
| 16:55:53 | DaveH | is back (gone 00:44:26) |
| 16:59:27 | DaveH | dc__: its worth seeing if we can find an expert on copyright law. Must be someone in the Free souce community who can advice on passing copy over or making sure an image is copyleft. etc etc |
| 16:59:53 | dc__ | DaveH: yes. |
| 17:00:50 | DaveH | summit Id like to know more about anyway .. as I do a lot of this photo manip stuff latly |
| 17:01:14 | dc__ | cool :) |
| 17:02:27 | DaveH | been into photography since I was a kid .. My father could prolly advice but that would be in UK law as opposed to US and not world wide .. difficult to know ? Ill mail him and ask |
| 17:03:40 | DaveH | is away: I'm busy |
| 17:07:33 | cmarqu | dc__: Oh. Do I need to append to self.config? |
| 17:12:35 | dc__ | cmarqu: config is read in storm.py, but it should be changed. |
| 17:12:46 | dc__ | cmarqu: you had it right. |
| 17:20:29 | cmarqu | I guess I ould wipe out my Maildir.storm... |
| 17:20:53 | dc__ | yeah :] |
| 17:21:10 | dc__ | cmarqu: it only works if the Maildir is an exact one form 0.5.2 |
| 17:21:19 | dc__ | cmarqu: for converting it to a 0.6 Maildir |
| 17:21:25 | cmarqu | Okay. |
| 17:21:29 | dc__ | cool. |
| 17:21:42 | dc__ | cmarqu: I did added cut, copy and paste to sedit :] |
| 17:21:53 | dc__ | cmarqu: little sub hacking. |
| 17:21:58 | cmarqu | dc__: Cool. Now syntax highlighting :) |
| 17:22:07 | dc__ | cmarqu: yeah man. |
| 17:22:24 | dc__ | cmarqu: all the syntax editors I try suck. but sedit will be different :] |
| 17:23:30 | cmarqu | emacs is the one and only :) |
| 17:23:38 | dc__ | hehe |
| 17:23:54 | dc__ | someday I'll learn how to actally use it :] |
| 17:24:34 | cmarqu | dc__: for scribble, even on my desktop, I get dots. so I guess CPU speed is not the issue |
| 17:24:47 | dc__ | cmarqu: python loops... |
| 17:24:49 | dc__ | I assume |
| 17:25:11 | cmarqu | But on the desktop, they should be so much faster... |
| 17:26:48 | dc__ | bbl 30 min |
| 18:28:17 | dc_ | cmarqu: hm..what do you think about releasing 0.6 today? |
| 18:28:45 | dc_ | cmarqu: then waiting for 0.6.1 for calendar recurrence. |
| 18:28:52 | dc_ | cmarqu: as I imagine it's gonna take a while to implement |
| 18:29:00 | cmarqu | dc_: As i said, I'd make a pre version. |
| 18:29:26 | cmarqu | dc_: and maybe release it as 0.6.1 because of the CVS users |
| 18:29:39 | dc_ | cmarqu: okay, and put it in unstable? |
| 18:31:11 | cmarqu | dc_: Yep, in unstable with a disclaiming announcement. I just wonder if a name "0.6pre" will work correctly when upgrading from that... |
| 18:31:59 | cmarqu | dc_: That DST time bug is there still |
| 18:32:21 | cmarqu | File "/usr/local/lib/storm/modules/xmlparse.py", line 43, in parse_xml_file |
| 18:32:22 | cmarqu | file = open(self.xml_file, 'r') |
| 18:32:22 | cmarqu | IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/home/colin/.storm/config/config' |
| 18:32:30 | cmarqu | This didn't get created? |
| 18:32:48 | dc_ | cmarqu: hmm...fresh install?> |
| 18:33:19 | cmarqu | dc_: No, not really. |
| 18:33:44 | dc_ | cmarqu: okay. let me remake the file checking stuff so it checks eash file individually. |
| 18:33:58 | dc_ | cmarqu: that will eliminate the Maildir prob to. |
| 18:34:06 | cmarqu | Hmm. If I delete all in ~/.storm, O get: |
| 18:34:09 | cmarqu | File "/usr/local/lib/storm/storm.py", line 316, in get_config |
| 18:34:15 | cmarqu | for file in os.listdir(self.config["maildir"] + '/Inbox/' + maildir_sub): |
| 18:34:15 | cmarqu | OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/home/colin/Maildir/Inbox/tmp' |
| 18:34:28 | cmarqu | Maildir vs. Maildir.storm. |
| 18:34:36 | dc_ | cmarqu: okay, rm -Rf ~/.storm ~/Maildir |
| 18:34:53 | dc_ | cmarqu: I'm fixing now :] |
| 18:35:00 | cmarqu | dc_: It shouldn't even look at ~/Maildir, just ~/Maildir.storm |
| 18:35:35 | cmarqu | dc_: I wish I could think straight today, but it's impossible |
| 18:36:05 | dc_ | cmarqu: okay. so by defualt we use Maildir.storm then? |
| 18:36:44 | cmarqu | dc_: Yup. People don't like that we mess with their ~/Maildir, unless they want us to. |
| 18:37:02 | dc_ | righty'i' |
| 18:37:35 | cmarqu | Upgrading libssl0.9.6 from 0.9.6a-1-fam1 to 0.9.6c-2fam1 |
| 18:37:35 | cmarqu | Removing obsolesced file /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.5 |
| 18:37:36 | cmarqu | ipkg: write: No space left on device |
| 18:37:37 | cmarqu | Argh. |
| 18:41:22 | dc_ | of dear. |
| 18:41:24 | dc_ | oh |
| 18:41:54 | cmarqu | Of course, ssh won't let me log in after a reboot. |
| 18:54:07 | dc_ | yeah |
| 18:54:12 | dc_ | i'ts a7r again I think |
| 18:54:48 | cmarqu | Not really IMO. Just ssl didn't get installed correctly. |
| 19:00:25 | dc_ | shh |
| 19:18:32 | dc_ | continues work on the developer docs |
| 19:20:10 | dc_ | aha! |
| 19:20:13 | dc_ | cmarqu: I got it :D |
| 19:20:29 | dc_ | cmarqu: I worked out how we can make defualts for the pickle formats. |
| 19:20:42 | dc_ | cmarqu: and easily update existing pickle file... |
| 19:20:51 | dc_ | cmarqu: not I just need to code it into datastore :) |
| 19:25:09 | cmarqu | dc_: Cool. How is it done? |
| 19:25:40 | dc_ | cmarqu: well, it'd probly end up taking as much time as parsing xml. |
| 19:25:43 | dc_ | cmarqu: but anyway. |
| 19:25:52 | cmarqu | My only info about that is http://www.zope.org//Members/jim/ZODB/ReverseDiffVersioning |
| 19:26:11 | cmarqu | dc_: but it'll only happen once for each storm session? |
| 19:26:56 | dc_ | cmarqu: you basicly pass a dictionary of defaults to the datastore.load then it load the pickle and loops though overriding any of the defualt with the stored values, then returns it. |
| 19:27:19 | dc_ | cmarqu: so any values that are not stored in the pickle file but in defualts are there. |
| 19:27:25 | cmarqu | Hmm. |
| 19:27:30 | dc_ | cmarqu: you'll probly understand better in python :] |
| 19:27:51 | cmarqu | :) |
| 19:29:09 | dc_ | :) |
| 19:29:19 | dc_ | 0.6 gets ever so closer :) |
| 19:29:23 | dc_ | cmarqu: so, quick recap. |
| 19:29:38 | dc_ | cmarqu: what tasks to we have left untill 0.6 final? |
| 19:29:51 | dc_ | cmarqu: my list is as follows: |
| 19:30:03 | dc_ | implement realarm gui |
| 19:30:16 | dc_ | test uschedule |
| 19:30:25 | dc_ | test 0.5.2 > 0.6 conversion |
| 19:30:45 | dc_ | add a little memorec function no notes... |
| 19:30:46 | dc_ | and.. |
| 19:31:03 | dc_ | implement the pickle defualts. |
| 19:31:33 | dc_ | makes a TODO file |
| 19:31:47 | cmarqu | Fix the DST bug |
| 19:31:55 | cmarqu | TODO is good. |
| 19:33:08 | cmarqu | scribble saving would be cool. It's usefule as it is IMO |
| 19:34:08 | dc_ | heh |
| 19:34:14 | dc_ | cmarqu: maby if we put it in C :/ |
| 19:34:56 | cmarqu | dc_: That connect with lines things should be doable... Later. Saving is needed first IMO |
| 20:18:45 | DaveH | grinning as I look back through the messages ... DC__ why did you not think of that before ;-> |
| 20:23:06 | dc_ | heh |
| 20:23:17 | dc_ | cmarqu|bbl: I missed all from <dc_> cmarqu: maby if we put it in C :/ |
| 20:25:09 | DaveH | just grinned as he noted the simplicity of the defaults in pickle solution |
| 20:25:29 | dc_ | DaveH: hehe :) |
| 20:25:42 | DaveH | So why didnt you think of that before ? ;-> |
| 20:26:17 | DaveH | Classic slap myself in the face moment eh ? |
| 20:26:51 | dc_ | yeah |
| 20:26:59 | dc_ | DaveH: I have them often, hehe. |
| 20:27:02 | DaveH | :-) |
| 20:27:14 | dc_ | this damn debian unstable. |
| 20:27:15 | DaveH | dc_: nods same here |
| 20:27:36 | dc_ | it's been crashing galeon and evolution ever since I ipgraded last night. |
| 20:27:58 | dc_ | plus I had to spend 2 hours this morning getting my dual head matrox working again. |
| 20:56:05 | DaveH | dc_: quick python question |
| 21:15:03 | dc_ | DaveH: shoot. |
| 21:22:46 | DaveH | what happens when os.environ cant find the nviro var spoecified ? |
| 21:23:26 | DaveH | sorry typos |
| 21:24:06 | DaveH | dc_: Ok when you use os.environ to return an enviroment var what happens if that var is not defined ? |
| 21:30:45 | dc_ | DaveH: dunno, try it :) |
| 21:31:15 | dc_ | DaveH: tried it. it gives a key error |
| 21:31:33 | dc_ | DaveH: so it's not good to try and call one that doesn't exist. |
| 21:31:41 | dc_ | DaveH: or you can use try and except |
| 21:36:12 | cmarqu | re |
| 21:36:18 | dc_ | hey cmarqu |
| 21:36:24 | dc_ | has to goto bed in 2 secs. |
| 21:36:37 | cmarqu | "dc_: That connect with lines things should be doable... Later. Saving is needed first IMO" |
| 21:36:59 | cmarqu | dc_: That's the sonly hting you were missing |
| 21:37:07 | dc_ | cmarqu: yep |
| 21:37:21 | dc_ | cmarqu: I'll probly be able to work on it Tues.. |
| 21:37:33 | dc_ | cmarqu: tomorrow is school, and it's gonna be busy :/ |
| 21:37:38 | cmarqu | dc_: okay |
| 21:38:12 | dc_ | cmarqu: hrm, off topic: what font do you use for your gtk theme? |
| 21:38:31 | cmarqu | dc_: on the ipaq? Helvetica |
| 21:38:40 | dc_ | cmarqu: the name. |
| 21:38:45 | dc_ | cmarqu: from ~/.gtkrc |
| 21:39:48 | cmarqu | "-*-helvetica-medium-r-*-*-9-*-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1" ? |
| 21:42:48 | dc_ | cmarqu: hrm, mine does not chnage :/ |
| 21:43:07 | cmarqu | dc_: what do you want that for? |
| 21:43:31 | cmarqu | style "user-font" |
| 21:43:33 | cmarqu | { |
| 21:43:33 | cmarqu | font="-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal-*-*-120-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1" |
| 21:43:33 | cmarqu | } |
| 21:43:33 | cmarqu | widget_class "*" style "user-font" |
| 21:43:43 | cmarqu | That's from my desktop |
| 21:44:29 | dc_ | cmarqu: I want to make my gtk font on my iPAQ smaller :/ |
| 21:44:57 | cmarqu | dc_: Use the last thing, and change the 120 to 90 |
| 21:45:23 | cmarqu | only newly started apps will pick it up I guess |
| 21:45:37 | dc_ | yeah |
| 21:53:25 | dc_ | cmarqu: where are the fam mail archives? |
| 21:58:51 | cmarqu | http://www.handhelds.org/pipermail/familiar/ |
| 22:03:11 | dctanner_ | just realised. |
| 22:03:19 | dctanner_ | cmarqu: help if I have the fonts installed :} |
| 22:03:51 | cmarqu | Hmm, i have those MS fonts installed, yes. |
| 22:05:52 | dctanner_ | cmarqu: I didn't have the xfonts ipkg's installed :/ |
| 22:06:06 | cmarqu | Hmm. |
| 22:06:18 | cmarqu | Well, font selection in X is ot easy |
| 22:08:36 | dctanner_ | see ya in the momrning. |
| 22:08:56 | cmarqu | dctanner_: CU |
| 22:47:11 | wizly | hi |
| 22:50:42 | cmarqu | Hi wizly |
| 22:50:45 | wizly | hi |
| 22:50:53 | wizly | last cvs source it's wrong |
| 22:51:00 | wizly | is missing identation on storm.py |
| 22:51:02 | cmarqu | Oh? |
| 22:51:07 | wizly | lines 282, 285 and 287 |
| 22:51:16 | wizly | it needs on more <tab> |
| 22:51:31 | cmarqu | lemme check |
| 22:51:34 | wizly | ok |
| 22:55:26 | cmarqu | wizly: Committed, thanks. |
| 22:55:36 | wizly | no problem |
| 22:55:38 | wizly | another problem |
| 22:56:00 | wizly | this version need /root/Maildir/Inbox/blabla |
| 22:56:12 | wizly | but it doesn't exists, and storm doesn't create it |
| 22:56:22 | cmarqu | Maildir, not Maildir.storm? |
| 22:56:22 | wizly | the same happens whit /root/Maildir/Outbox/blabla |
| 22:57:56 | cmarqu | storm will not be able to update from old CVs versions it seems. |
| 22:58:14 | cmarqu | can you try erasing the whole ~/Maildir.storm ? |
| 22:58:23 | wizly | yes, and it doesn't work |
| 22:58:31 | wizly | i maded that directories by hand |
| 22:59:46 | cmarqu | Argh, indeed. It should not be ~/Maildir anyway. That'll have to wait for dc :/ |
| 22:59:57 | wizly | no problem |
| 23:00:03 | wizly | now storm runs again on my ipaq |
| 23:00:04 | wizly | :) |
| 23:01:02 | cmarqu | Good. I still have trouble upgrading, but didn't try too hard |
| 23:01:08 | wizly | hehe |
| 23:43:56 | cmarqu | Okay, night |
| 23:45:24 | wizly | bye |
| 23:45:25 | wizly | night |