irclog2html for #silvercat on 20051230

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02:08.46orangeSilverFox: I would rm before doing it... but do it in a sandbox somewhere, like your home dir
02:32.11SportChickorange: you got gu rigths?
02:32.17SportChickping anyone with gu rights
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02:33.27SportChickPimpinella: ping
02:34.54orangeSportChick: nope
02:35.12SportChickI need someone with gu right s- there's a god mode cheater there
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04:18.22*** topic/#silvercat is Home of the silvercat servers || Please visit our home page: http://silvercat.tybox.net/
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04:52.55slvrsoxcan you connect on port 5156?
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08:25.15silver[a]How many players should a server have before its considered "going", and ok to turn on register-require?
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08:42.20silver[a]~silvercat
08:42.32silver[a]~bzfquery silvercat.tybox.net:5154
08:42.35silver[a]~bzfsquery silvercat.tybox.net:5154
08:42.48silver[a]~literal bzfquery
08:43.21brad2901ibot hi
08:43.22ibothello, brad2901
08:46.47silver[a]~literal bzfsquery
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08:55.05silver[a]~bzfsquery silvercat.tybox.net:5154
09:20.44silver[a].
09:24.09brad2901~bzfquery silvercat.tybox.net
09:33.13brad2901ah you got bzfscron to work
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15:43.30menobotI'm back!
15:43.33menobotCuckoo, Cuckoo. It is now 2005/12/30  15:43:32 (UTC)
15:43.54menotumeooosp
15:47.20ToughShootermenotume: Could it be the bzfquery on website fails from time to time?
15:47.36menotume?
15:47.39menotumewhich one ?
15:47.48menotumewell, it'll fail now, yes
15:47.51ToughShooterhttp://silvercat.tybox.net/menotest/bzfquery_example.php
15:47.54menotumebzfs is down :)
15:48.25ToughShooter...and I wondered why my regular expression didn't put out anything and the script is just hanging
15:48.51ToughShooterHow comes bzfs is down when I want to test :o
15:50.27ToughShooter~silvercat
15:50.58ToughShooterah, now my script works :)
15:53.19menotumesame here, i wanted to test my reportbot :)
15:54.51ToughShooter~silvercat
15:55.01ToughShooterCan't connect any more
15:56.05menotumetry again :)
16:03.43ToughShooterI see
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18:18.22Silver-Botarg!
18:18.26Silver-Botwhy aren't I logging?!?
18:19.05Silver-Botexit
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18:20.35Silver-Botah, that's better.
18:46.40silver[a]???
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22:08.05ToughShooteraww, right in the moment I had a question :(
22:12.02ToughShooterWhat is expected to be "Most Flag Captures"? Just the max in the time between one map changes, absolute max of all captures ever happened (not only while playing the time one map is on) or something else?
22:41.52menotumeToughShooter: all of the above
22:42.51menotumeand maybe a ratio
22:43.01menotumetime played / flag caps
22:43.30menotumeor similar
22:47.14ToughShooter~silvercat
22:47.29ToughShooterok
22:48.32menotumehow are you gonna determine falg caps ?
22:50.07ToughShooterI'm using the data array, checking for players in teams, if players there I grab the number of losses and wins, compare them to previous data in a text file and if wins-losses is higher it saves
22:50.42ToughShooterOf course that won't work when the playing style is FFA
22:51.00menotumeoh, so not flag-cap by player
22:51.02menotumeok
22:51.03ToughShooterI might add a check for this later, too
22:51.11menotumeis that useful info ?
22:51.25ToughShooterwell, I didn't saw it in the logs
22:51.31menotumeright
22:51.33menotumenot there
22:51.41ToughShooterand with more output they get huge
22:51.48menotumeso, you are doing bzfquery on a periodic basis ?
22:52.15ToughShooterI would need something like a cron job
22:52.26menotumeerrr, no
22:52.29menotumejust a php
22:52.34ToughShooterthat calles the actual script
22:52.45menotumewhile (1){
22:52.50menotume<PROTECTED>
22:52.54menotume<PROTECTED>
22:52.55menotume}
22:52.56ToughShootermenotume: I said like
22:53.08menotumeok
22:53.09ToughShooterI know that I can do this
22:53.26menotumewell, the loop is easier, and you won't have to save states somewhere :)
22:53.33ToughShooterThough I think a cron job would be "cleaner"
22:53.47menotumei would disagree
22:53.54menotumeand, would add overhead
22:54.04ToughShooterif we do an infinite loop what happens if apache dies?
22:54.17menotumehas nothing to do with apache :)
22:54.24menotumewhere are you savinf the info ?
22:54.45ToughShooter./Caps.txt right now
22:54.52menotumefine
22:55.10menotumeso, the php program (always running) updates caps.txt
22:55.16ToughShooterthough I haven't uploaded the latest thing because it stopped working on a new line and I want to fix it first
22:55.18menotumewebpages read caps.txt
22:55.35menotumei mean, that's what a cron would do, right ?
22:56.11ToughShooterYou're saying I should only read Caps.txt one time and not every 5 minutes?
22:56.22menotumephone.
22:57.24menotumeno :(
22:57.49menotumenvm
22:57.52menotumehave fun with it
22:57.54ToughShooter?
22:58.29menotumei was just saying that anything a cron would do, you could do more efficiently in a simple look in a php prog
22:58.35ToughShooternow can/should I read it again every 5 minutes or start, doing an "infinite" loop and only save if changes?
22:58.43menotumethe cron would have to launch a program anyway
22:58.56brad2901anyone know what "Http Code: 304" is?
22:59.03menotumewell, i don't know aht info you're trying to track
22:59.10ToughShooterI can look it up, one moment
22:59.11menotumea redirect, i think
22:59.17menotumenot sure which one though
22:59.22brad2901ah
23:00.09ToughShooterNot Modified
23:00.15menotumehuh ?
23:00.30menotumewhat does that mean ?
23:00.31menotume:)
23:00.42brad2901heh
23:01.06menotumeah, i see
23:01.07ToughShooterA browser has stuff in cache, now he asks if the webserver has something newer if the server has nothing newer the result is 304
23:01.20brad2901ohhh
23:01.22brad2901thanks
23:01.23menotume<PROTECTED>
23:01.41brad2901thanks menotume aswell :)
23:01.48ToughShooterI think my description was a bit less technical :)
23:02.01brad2901yeah ;)
23:02.42menotumeToughShooter: I have no idea what info you are trying to track
23:02.46menotumeso, go for it
23:02.56ToughShooter304 is one of the most used HTTP-response code like 200
23:03.11ToughShooter:)
23:03.18menotumebut, if you 'cron' thing runs frequesntly, it would be much better in a program by itself, always running, slooping and sleeping
23:03.40menotumeor slooping and leeping
23:03.42menotume:)
23:03.43ToughShooterHow can I see whether the app runs one day?
23:03.53menotumehuh ?
23:04.06ToughShooterAverage caps per day
23:04.34menotumewell, you're gonna have to bzfquery a lot more frequently than once per 5 minutes
23:04.39menotumeor your gonna lose info
23:04.51ToughShooterI'm asking now because tomorrow I'll be not at home, most time gonna traveling
23:04.57menotumekeep looking at it, and track what you need to trac
23:05.09menotumewhat app ?
23:05.17ToughShooterthe script
23:05.28menotumei don't follow
23:05.30ToughShooterwhether it already loops one day
23:05.44menotumei don't follow
23:06.03menotumeyou write a php app
23:06.09ToughShooterI'll refactor it to only read at start and putting the functionality inside a loop like you've written above
23:06.22menotumeok, whatever
23:06.33ToughShooternow I think average caps per day on a server would be nice to know
23:06.33menotumejust run the app, let it keep running :)
23:06.35menotumeohhhhh
23:06.40menotumei see
23:06.47menotumeyou're only running webpages
23:06.55ToughShooterya
23:07.19ToughShooterdoes that need a cron-job?
23:07.24menotumethat won't work, apache will kill it if it runs over 30 seconds or so
23:07.26menotumeno
23:07.42ToughShooteroh
23:07.49menotumea cron job just runs an app at specific times
23:07.56menotumeit would still have to be an app
23:08.21menotumeyou have shell access at silvercat
23:08.26ToughShooterYes
23:08.28menotumewhy don't you do it there ?
23:08.35menotumemake a test subdir
23:09.04menotumeand play :)
23:09.08ToughShooterwell, I have to figure out how to make the PHP script an app
23:09.19menotumeoh my
23:09.26ToughShooterI think I know it
23:09.33menotumephp nameofscript.php
23:09.56menotumeif you want to make it a shellscript, put:
23:10.04menotume!#/usr/bin/php -q
23:10.05ToughShooterNever done before, I don't have PHP as independent binary here
23:10.07menotumeat the top
23:10.34ToughShooterIt's only here as apache module
23:10.54menotumehow do you get anything done then? :P
23:11.05ToughShooterbut as I wrote I think I know how to do
23:11.14ToughShooterJust never done
23:11.22menotumeok
23:11.25menotumehold on
23:12.02ToughShooterI'm not going to try anything more out today, it's already *that* late again
23:15.30menotumeone minute ?
23:15.36menotumecan you ssh into sc ?
23:15.53ToughShootersc?
23:15.59menotumesilvercat
23:16.23menotumessh ts@silvercat.tybox.net
23:16.25menotume:)
23:16.33menotumecd /home/menotume/ts
23:16.35ToughShooterk
23:16.44menotume./anapp &
23:16.59ToughShooteraww, a security prob ;)
23:17.01menotumeor, leave out the '&'
23:17.15menotumeno, you can read but not write
23:17.45menotumejust do:  ./anapp
23:17.54ToughShooteraww, now I can't quit
23:18.04menotumecontrol-C
23:18.13ToughShootertried but starts again
23:18.16menotumeoh, write permiss
23:18.21menotumehuh ?
23:18.24ToughShooterthen I tried control-d
23:18.27menotumeoh, you did the '&' ?
23:18.30ToughShooternow all is frozen
23:18.34ToughShooteryes :(
23:18.58menotumeok, i killed it
23:19.02menotumehold on a sec
23:19.05ToughShooterCan't type, can't logout etc
23:19.14ToughShooterah, you kicked me
23:19.22menotumeno
23:19.27menotumei killed anapp
23:19.34ToughShooter"Connection to silvercat.tybox.net closed."
23:19.53menotumeok, try again
23:19.55ToughShootermaybe my commands have been in a queue :/
23:19.58menotumethis time ...
23:20.03menotumei dunno what control-d does
23:20.13menotumethis time run it from your home dir
23:20.16menotumejust do:
23:20.18ToughShootercontrol-d is exit for me
23:20.23menotume/home/menotume/ts/anapp
23:20.33menotumewell, it exited
23:21.15ToughShooteryeah, after the app was quit
23:21.18menotumeok, now crontrol-C
23:21.25ToughShooterbut it didn't let me quit the app
23:21.27menotumels -la anapp.log
23:21.33menotumecontrol-C
23:21.53ToughShooterI see it
23:22.06ToughShooternice timestamps inside
23:22.10menotumecat /home/menotume/ts/anapp
23:22.15menotumeit's php
23:22.24menotumekeeps running in a loop
23:22.52ToughShooterI'll cp it over to my dir
23:22.57menotumek :)
23:23.49ToughShooterCould it be vi reacts different than my vim?
23:24.02menotumegotme, i don't use either
23:24.25ToughShootervim is called via vi, too, IIRC
23:26.12ToughShooterbtw: changing dirs with !cd doesn't work for me, it doesn't error but !ls always shows me the dir from where I started sftp
23:27.04menotumeohhh, right
23:27.05menotumelcd
23:27.13menotumei dunno why cd is different
23:27.21menotumelcd = local cd
23:27.30ToughShooterl or 1
23:27.34menotumemost other command work by just puttin ! in front
23:27.38menotumel
23:27.40menotumehehe
23:27.45ToughShooteraww, **** fonts, both look same on my screen
23:27.46menotumelower-cxase L
23:27.58menotumefor Local
23:28.24ToughShooterThat's why I have fonts that cost hundrets of dollars on my system: Just to not use them :x
23:28.56ToughShooterI think I should have spend my money somewhere else better sometime
23:29.54menotumeyou PAID for fonts ?
23:30.00menotume~lart ToughShooter
23:30.22ToughShootermenotume: ?
23:30.38menotume<PROTECTED>
23:30.44ToughShooteryes
23:30.53menotume~whaleslap ToughShooter
23:30.54ibotI'll just grab a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh and slap ToughShooter over the head with it.....
23:30.54brad2901wow
23:32.22ToughShooterThey look all cool and clean but unfortunately I don't make presentations so often, so I create all my docs as PDF and embed them
23:34.34menotumewell, there are plenty of good, free fonts out there is all
23:34.37ToughShootermenotume: Why do react that angry? I come in peace
23:34.42menotumelol
23:34.44menotumenot angry
23:34.49menotumesurprised
23:34.59menotumeand kidding :)
23:35.01menotume(sort of)
23:35.24ToughShooterDo you always lart and whaleslap people when you're surprised?
23:35.53menotumeonly when i'm in a good mood :)
23:39.11ToughShooterI'm not going to do the matches trick with my eyes today, so gnight
23:59.47menotumePAID for FONTS on Linux ?
23:59.57menotume:D

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