| 00:07.05 | temhawk | the editor is complaining about "unrecheable code" and "expected a return value" in a trigger when I try to save with a "Skip Remaining Actions" action in that trigger. if I remove that, I can save the map. I'm getting some extreme lag and error messages in-game, though, which is why I want to add that "Skip Remaining Actions" action... |
| 00:09.33 | temhawk | in-game it complains about "execution took too long, probably caused by an infinite loop in the script" in an action definition that literally is only made up of a switch statement that returns a string depending on a preset parameter |
| 00:10.01 | temhawk | these error messages are so useless |
| 00:33.00 | temhawk | okay... by process of elimination I have removed every single fucking trigger, action definition, function, variable, action, statement, or otherwise from my map except one trigger without any events, local variables or conditions and only the sole action "Skip Remaining Actions" and it's still complaining "expected a return value" when I try to save. WTF?!!? |
| 00:40.05 | grim001 | temhawk, blizzard doesn't care about their shitty editor, neither should you. |
| 00:40.13 | ArcanePariah | lol |
| 00:40.26 | ArcanePariah | Not a shitty editor when people do not understand what it means. |
| 00:41.09 | temhawk | it looks like "Skip Remaining Actions" is supposed to generate "return true;" in the map script but in this particular map my "Skip Remaining Actions" actions are generating "return ;" for some reason |
| 00:41.42 | ArcanePariah | temhawk: In some function, it is expecting a return value, and it has determined that you are returning nothing. What is the skip remaining action in? |
| 00:41.58 | ArcanePariah | and grim001 if they didn't care, they wouldn't bother patching it or adding any features for modders, would they? |
| 00:42.29 | ArcanePariah | temhawk: can you paste the generated galaxy code? |
| 00:42.34 | ArcanePariah | Use pastee |
| 00:43.16 | Julk | hey can anyone tell me how to make a tech lab for the supply depot update accordingly? |
| 00:43.36 | ArcanePariah | Julk: What do you mean by update accordingly? |
| 00:44.16 | Julk | I got the ability on the supply depot to make it, and it de-morphs when the supply depot is lowered or destroyed, but it doesn't morph when the supply depot is lifted or built in the correct place |
| 00:45.12 | temhawk | ArcanePariah: https://www.refheap.com/113734#L-34 |
| 00:47.09 | ArcanePariah | You need a morph ability to go both ways Julk |
| 00:47.31 | ArcanePariah | So one morph ability should handle morphing to a detached state, and another to morph to a reattached state. |
| 00:49.13 | ArcanePariah | So you have a trigger, with non events, and a "Skip Remaining actions" as the sole action? |
| 00:49.18 | ArcanePariah | no* |
| 00:50.06 | Julk | I updated the Morph to Tech Lab (Detached) to include my add-on |
| 00:50.07 | temhawk | yeah... |
| 00:51.13 | temhawk | ArcanePariah: this is what happens when I duplicate the "Skip Remaining Actions" a few times: https://www.refheap.com/113736#L-34 |
| 00:51.36 | ArcanePariah | Interesting |
| 00:51.47 | ArcanePariah | What dependencies is this map using? |
| 00:51.57 | temhawk | ArcanePariah: as you can easily see it is generating "return ;" for each one. in a new map it generates "return true;" |
| 00:52.27 | temhawk | ArcanePariah: only the standard dependency "Void (Campaign)" |
| 00:52.41 | ArcanePariah | Correct, normally what Skip Remaining actions does is macro in a return with a safe value for the return type of the current function. |
| 00:52.51 | Julk | Void, VoidMulti, Liberty (Campaign) |
| 00:52.53 | ArcanePariah | Ok, so you have all the liberty/swarm/core/void dependencies |
| 00:53.29 | ArcanePariah | I presume you have tried deleteing and creating the trigger, or creating another trigger? |
| 00:54.59 | temhawk | ArcanePariah: yep. it looks like it happens with any trigger I create in my library |
| 00:55.32 | temhawk | if I create a trigger outside of my library and delete the triggers in my library I can save the map again |
| 00:55.50 | ArcanePariah | This is in a map file, correct, not a mod file? |
| 00:56.03 | temhawk | yeah |
| 00:57.29 | ArcanePariah | Does this occur for any library you create in the map file? |
| 00:59.23 | temhawk | yeah |
| 01:00.23 | temhawk | even if I delete EVERYTHING, create a new library, create a new trigger and add "Skip Remaining Actions" it fails |
| 01:03.46 | temhawk | I uploaded the map file for you if you want to take a look at it: https://a.uguu.se/kgvfnc_library-bug.SC2Map |
| 01:06.09 | ArcanePariah | No need, I've also replicated it. |
| 01:06.33 | temhawk | how? |
| 01:06.55 | ArcanePariah | Did the same thing you did, have a map with a library in it with a trigger with nothing but a skip remaining action |
| 01:07.57 | temhawk | hm, that's right |
| 01:08.02 | temhawk | it happens every time |
| 01:09.43 | temhawk | so my map isn't corrupted. it's just that "Skip Remaining Actions" is bugged in libraries |
| 01:10.13 | ArcanePariah | I would say, that it is a bug. And yes, it is an edge case, having a library inside a map while using Skip Reamining actions. I think the compiler is haviing scope issues. |
| 01:10.23 | ArcanePariah | The fix for now would be one of two things |
| 01:10.29 | ArcanePariah | 1) Move the library into a mode |
| 01:10.37 | ArcanePariah | (That is the far better design) |
| 01:10.39 | Julk | ArcanePariah: I think my problem MIGHT me with the different size of the supply depot |
| 01:10.50 | ArcanePariah | 2) As a hack, just use Return True |
| 01:11.04 | ArcanePariah | Will produce the same result |
| 01:11.58 | Julk | ArcanePariah: any ideas? |
| 01:12.28 | ArcanePariah | Do you have your morph ability setup the same way as the other ones? |
| 01:12.32 | ArcanePariah | With the Automatic flag? |
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| 01:13.07 | Julk | yes |
| 01:13.16 | pure | hey |
| 01:13.22 | pure | master |
| 01:13.42 | temhawk | ArcanePariah: ok, return true is a decent workaround. thanks for your troubleshooting help |
| 01:14.05 | Julk | btw just a general question, is Bounty ever on here? |
| 01:14.32 | ArcanePariah | Sometimes, but he is rather busy |
| 01:14.49 | ArcanePariah | Since he worked very hard for the RTC contest, and... he is also working for me |
| 01:15.10 | Julk | oh, nice! |
| 01:15.16 | Julk | He's so freaking talented |
| 01:16.35 | ArcanePariah | Hahahaha. I would say he is strong headed and pragmatic. His technical designs often leave much to be desired (from my point of view) but the results speak for themselves. I'm biased, since I'm a software developer (both as my hobby with modding and as my job). Bounty excels at doign what so many fail to do: Doing nothing perfect, but everything good. |
| 01:17.15 | ArcanePariah | Could his UI be improved? Yes. Could his code be improved? Yes. Are they both good enough? Yes :D |
| 01:17.38 | Julk | Good point |
| 01:17.52 | Julk | I hope to someday make the top 10 in RTC |
| 01:18.13 | Julk | I definitely would have this year had my map shown up in the final submissions ;-; |
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| 01:19.42 | Julk | Anyways, about the add-on.... |
| 01:20.02 | Julk | Everything is set up like the Barracks tech lab |
| 01:20.09 | Julk | Like EVERYTHING |
| 01:20.19 | Julk | Except for the footprint |
| 01:20.35 | Julk | I had to make a 2x2 + 2x2 (Addon) footprint for my custom one |
| 01:21.00 | ArcanePariah | Wait on the supply depot, does it have a build ability to build the addon? |
| 01:21.08 | Julk | yes |
| 01:21.16 | Julk | It works, too |
| 01:21.38 | ArcanePariah | And in the Build Morph abilty, you've put the supply depot morph ability, correct? |
| 01:21.58 | Julk | yes |
| 01:27.27 | ArcanePariah | can you paste the XML of the supply depot |
| 01:28.02 | ArcanePariah | Let me make sure I understand: You want to build the tech lab off the supply depot, correct? |
| 01:28.10 | Julk | yes |
| 01:28.23 | Julk | and how do I paste XML data? |
| 01:28.53 | temhawk | https://www.refheap.com/ |
| 01:29.12 | ArcanePariah | Switch to XML view in the editor, then select the supply depot entry, and copy paste the data for the supply depot. Use either what temhawk posted, or pastee |
| 01:29.14 | ArcanePariah | Either works |
| 01:29.31 | Julk | kk |
| 01:30.29 | Julk | https://www.refheap.com/113738 |
| 01:31.11 | Julk | whoops |
| 01:31.16 | Julk | that's the entire mod lol |
| 01:32.12 | Julk | https://www.refheap.com/113739 |
| 01:32.22 | Julk | and yes I'm making Tasteless in-game |
| 01:33.57 | sjdkdslds | hey, i have a quick question, if i remove the parent in xml of an ability will it corrup it? |
| 01:34.01 | sjdkdslds | corrupt it* |
| 01:34.40 | ArcanePariah | No, becaues it will then impliciity use a parent of the base type of that ability type |
| 01:34.49 | sjdkdslds | k ty |
| 01:34.53 | ArcanePariah | Which are defined in the core dependency |
| 01:40.10 | sjdkdslds | also another question, has patch 3.0 changed how snapshot visibility of units works? |
| 01:40.30 | ArcanePariah | Not that I'm aware of |
| 01:40.49 | sjdkdslds | units can be seen 1 sec after they enter fog which before didnt happen |
| 01:43.08 | sjdkdslds | also how can sounds be made to not be heard when the source of the sound is in fog? |
| 01:44.21 | sjdkdslds | for eg enemy cant see me as im on highground and i cast an ability on highground so he cant see anything, how to make the enemy not hear the sound? |
| 01:54.36 | ArcanePariah | In the sound data, change the fog roll off |
| 01:54.58 | ArcanePariah | So the sound drops to 0 immediately if in fog |
| 02:02.58 | sjdkdslds | thank you |
| 03:15.59 | Ashamed_ | lolz |
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| 08:01.50 | Ashamed_ | Made a pretty nice loop for my defense - So now I name unit certain names and they will showup in the loop |
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| 11:19.57 | temhawk | is there a way to get the absolute position of a dialog or dialog item (i.e. relative to the top-left screen corner) reliably? (i.e. with nested dialogs, "Center" anchors, etc) |
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| 14:33.33 | alzarath | There a way to make death models fade if they don't initially? For example, the primal leaders die and leave their corpse. I don't want them to clutter the field. |
| 14:37.57 | Julk | If you would be fine with them just fading rather than the actual fade animation, I could help you out |
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| 14:53.48 | alzarath | That would be fine, Julk. |
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| 15:17.45 | Julk | okay |
| 15:18.03 | Julk | so do you want to triggers, or is hardcore data okay? |
| 15:18.49 | Julk | to use* triggers |
| 15:18.59 | Julk | 7:30 AM here, lol |
| 15:21.32 | Julk | okay, since it might take you a while to see this (here I'll tag it alzarath), I'll explain with triggers since that's easier, and if you want a data answer, you can just ask |
| 15:21.43 | Julk | so basically |
| 15:21.55 | Julk | make a loop |
| 15:22.00 | alzarath | I'd rather do data. |
| 15:22.04 | Julk | okay |
| 15:22.11 | Julk | so for data |
| 15:22.21 | Julk | go to the actor that you want to disappear |
| 15:22.42 | Julk | one sec lemme load up the editor myself |
| 15:24.00 | Julk | okay make a new event |
| 15:24.13 | Julk | set it to "unit death" |
| 15:24.49 | Julk | and make the action "timer set" |
| 15:25.40 | Julk | set the duration base to whatever time increment you want to fade it by (like for 10 steps in one second, set it to 0.1) |
| 15:26.01 | Julk | and set the name to "death1" or something like that |
| 15:26.41 | Julk | you might want to add your unit's name onto that timer name. I don't know if timers affect other actors |
| 15:26.47 | Julk | anyways |
| 15:26.51 | Julk | next |
| 15:27.10 | Julk | make another event |
| 15:27.35 | Julk | set it to "timer expired" |
| 15:28.00 | Julk | add a term for "timer name" |
| 15:28.07 | Julk | and set it to your timer name |
| 15:28.31 | Julk | then go to the action and make it "set opacity" |
| 15:28.49 | Julk | and make the opacity as much as the first increment |
| 15:29.07 | Julk | now copy that event |
| 15:29.15 | Julk | and make the action "timer set" |
| 15:29.38 | Julk | then make this timer the same name as the last one, just with a "2" at the end |
| 15:29.55 | Julk | and redo the process |
| 15:30.19 | Julk | only difference should be the timer name and the opacity (make that twice the increment, since it is the second increment) |
| 15:30.36 | Julk | then repeat until your unit fades completely |
| 15:30.46 | Julk | is that good alzarath? |
| 15:30.48 | alzarath | Alright. Appreciate the help. |
| 15:30.51 | alzarath | I'll give it a try. |
| 15:30.57 | Julk | cool |
| 15:31.16 | Julk | I'm still here for a while if I don't pass out lol |
| 15:31.29 | Julk | so I will be able to help |
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| 16:11.46 | alzarath | The events don't seem to affect the death model at all. |
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| 18:46.49 | Ashamed_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou5wHilSjtw Created a pretty good system that allows each player to pause their area without effecting others |
| 18:50.04 | Ashamed_ | Wow I didn't realize how dynamic you could make sc2 maps -.- |
| 18:51.25 | Ashamed_ | I have single triggers for everyone(instead of triggers for each player) that spawns units and type of units in entire differnt area's depending on user/location. |
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| 19:05.33 | Ashamed_ | anybody in da housE? |
| 19:32.22 | temhawk | yes |
| 19:33.35 | temhawk | I'm still chipping at that scrolling dialog thing |
| 19:47.41 | temhawk | I'm trying to make it all dynamic and user-friendly, so one could just call an action like "Create Scroll Dialog" and set size, offset, anchor and other parameters to their liking. I haven't gotten the actual scrolling part done yet, though. still trying to work out how to get the absolute position of the dialog first and, if that fails (maybe because a dialog is anchored to the center of the screen), fall back to using a bunch of tiny |
| 19:47.41 | temhawk | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:50.59 | temhawk | are you still interested in that or have you found a solution to your scrolling problem, Ashamed_? |
| 19:54.02 | alzarath | I'll give it a look later. I haven't tried anything like that, though. Dialogs might just be too limited for what you want. |
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| 20:14.45 | temhawk | opening a map with only "Liberty (Mod)" dependency: http://i.imgur.com/cZdbRl4.png |
| 20:49.40 | Ashamed_ | temhawk my scroll works fine 1:1 aspect its only when I try to change that does it not work.. You should be able to find the position relative to the dialog and then subtract to get the actual position according to screen that is how I did it |
| 20:50.03 | Ashamed_ | But yeah if you figure it out let me know ha |
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| 22:16.49 | Repo | Updated wiki entry: Galaxy / Tutorials - http://www.sc2mapster.com/wiki/galaxy/tutorials/ |
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