IRC log for #sc2mapster on 20151002

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01:21.40egodKaelten are you working to upgrade sc2mapster website?
03:15.32piratedid all of the modelers leave?
03:16.53ArcanePariahPossibly?
03:17.02piratebummer
03:17.19piratejade seems to have picked up some basics stuffs
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07:48.53Caphey guys o/
08:06.56Capslaps Dustin|Home around a bit with a large fishbot
08:07.12Capyou there buddy ?
08:15.58Capanyone available to help a newbie out ?
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15:38.12Dustin|HomeCap, Whatcha need man
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17:11.06Dustin|HomeNot usually a lot of people on at 3 am :P
17:36.52Capha ha ha its like 18h00 over here
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17:37.55Capguys any one know if you could charge energie to make a unit move ?
17:42.24Ravonusyeah i bet you could do it.. would have to look at the editor but i am sure its possable
17:42.41Capid prob need to make a trigger
17:43.09Capbtw Ravonus please to meet you man
17:43.17Capim pretty new to sc 2
17:43.46Dustin|HomeYeah you can do it with triggers
17:43.51Ravonusi dunno you may be able to do it with data too
17:43.55Dustin|HomeI think you can do it with data
17:43.59Dustin|HomeBut it's some fuckery
17:44.01Ravonusbut for sure with triggers
17:44.10Capoh there you dustin
17:44.16Ravonuslet me see what I can see
17:44.17Capare*
17:44.35Capthanks bro
17:44.47Dustin|HomeJust check a units X,Y point every frame and Store it, then if it changes, get the difference, subtract energy. Then check if he has 0 energy, if so, Add a behvaior that disabled movement.
17:45.21Capdustin but the unit will be moving constantly
17:45.25Capits a meg
17:45.42Capbut his so op i need to make some weakness area
17:45.45Ravonusyou may be able to put a cost on the move ability
17:45.49RavonusThat may be even easier
17:45.54Dustin|HomeYa check that
17:45.59Ravonusobv duplicate the ability
17:46.01Capso if i can drain the beast ...then he would be imobilized
17:46.03Dustin|HomeUnder the move ability -> cost, try to add an energy cost
17:46.07Ravonusand give the unit the special ability
17:46.38Capum move ability?
17:46.49Cap<PROTECTED>
17:46.55Ravonusyou do
17:47.14Capis that an ability?
17:47.28Capindeed it is very clever
17:47.50Caplemme see
17:47.55Dustin|HomeYa move is an ability
17:48.04Dustin|HomeUnits need abilitys for everything, move, stop, patrol, attack
17:49.30Capdont see a cost tab for move?
17:49.46Capso how am i going to link it ?
17:55.21Dustin|HomeDoesn't look like it has a cost tab, that wont workl
17:56.05Caphmmm
17:56.11Capmust be a way
17:56.21Capits such a good idea
17:58.49ArcanePariahWhat are we trying to do again?
17:59.01Dustin|HomeJust use the trigger idea i gave ya
17:59.11Dustin|HomeHe's wanting to make movement cost Energy
17:59.20ArcanePariahOh that's easy
17:59.32ArcanePariah2 behaviors
17:59.37CapHey Arcane
17:59.51Capwould be awesome if i could do this
17:59.55ArcanePariahBehavior 1 applies negative energy regeneration
18:00.20ArcanePariahAnd has a validator for the unit having energy. It also disables behavior 2.
18:00.25ArcanePariahBehavior 2 just disables movement
18:00.28Capok im new here so speak normal language :)
18:00.38Caplol
18:00.39ArcanePariahOk, create a new Behavior
18:00.46Capok hang on
18:01.26Capwhat type?
18:01.29ArcanePariahBuff
18:02.01Dustin|HomeWont that negate energy even if the guy is standing still?
18:02.40ArcanePariahYes, but we will add a validator to both behaviors to check if the current order is a Move order. Or we can also add a unit speed validator
18:02.55Capok done
18:03.38ArcanePariahOk, under Modification -> Vital Regen, set the energy to a negative value, whatever you want it to cost per second while moving
18:04.22Dustin|HomeOh shit I didnt know they had unit speed validators now
18:04.23Dustin|HomeThats awesome
18:05.13ArcanePariahCap, would it help if I walked you through this via a stream?
18:05.23Caphell yea
18:05.37ArcanePariahOk, give me a moment to get setup
18:05.38Capcause im looking for the vital thingy
18:05.58Capi dont have cam btw can you still do it ?
18:06.22Dustin|HomeHe's going to share his screen with you
18:06.33Capok rog
18:06.48ArcanePariahYes, I'm going to do this as a Twitch stream
18:06.57Capsweet
18:07.19Capyou guys are the best
18:07.20ArcanePariahAllows you to watch, and the video will be auto saved, so you can watch again if you forget or have some confusion on why something works later.
18:07.28Capi hope you will like what i have done ..
18:07.42Capbut i guess everything has been done lol
18:08.39ArcanePariahhttp://www.twitch.tv/arcanedurandel
18:08.54ArcanePariahType in the twitch chat once you are there and see the stream
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18:11.52RavonusArcane gets turned on when people watch him edit
18:12.01ArcanePariahlol
18:12.25ArcanePariahMore that trying to walk people through stuff via text is annoying and slow
18:12.43RavonusSo i found an exploit at this site.... was able to download about 2000 videos of porn without logging in...
18:12.48Capok i dont want to bother sighning up with twitch yet so il just carry on talking here
18:12.53ArcanePariahkk
18:12.55Ravonusim bad perhaps
18:12.56ArcanePariahSounds good
18:13.43Ravonusif anyone wants the exploit just ask i will show you :P
18:13.45Capok i can see your screen lets go
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18:19.50Ashameddumb puter wat work!
18:19.50Capum i dont have the same fields as you
18:20.17Ashamedclick buttons at tom
18:20.19AshamedAAWWWWAAW
18:20.48Capi did
18:20.55Capbut lemme check again
18:22.13Capthink i may have created wrong type
18:22.34Capbehavior type Buff
18:23.00CapDefault Behaviour (CBehaviorBuff)
18:23.15Capis that the one ?
18:24.25AshamedYes no -.- mby so?
18:24.46Caplol
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18:30.59ArcanePariahhttp://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/7415511983
18:33.55AshamedArcane Marine is my favorite unit too !
18:35.07AshamedI never knew about this dev cheat sheet... I likey!
18:36.03Ashamedoh no
18:36.34Ashamedbum bum bum
18:37.05AshamedWhat you don't just get everything on your first try?
18:45.58ArcanePariahAny questions Cap?
18:46.22ArcanePariahAnd any questions from anyone really?
18:46.23AshamedHe had a brain aneurysm
18:46.29ArcanePariahUnlikely
18:46.32Ashamed-.- you were just talking to me apperntly :P
18:47.08Ashamedpfff lat time you help Cap lol
18:47.42AshamedShow us your titties!
18:47.54CapArcane im watching your video
18:48.07Capthxs for all the trouble
18:48.24AshamedTITTIES!!!!! NOW
18:48.26Caplooks like im on my way now :)
18:48.37ArcanePariahWhere would you like me to send the map to?
18:48.53Ashamedworse webcam ever
18:49.07ArcanePariahlol
18:49.15Capmap?
18:49.40*** join/#sc2mapster Vas (425799e0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.87.153.224)
18:49.44Capyou want to send me a map?
18:50.06ArcanePariahYes, everything I just implemented in the video, so you can look over it and see if things in your map line up.
18:50.30Capok you can send it to my mail...
18:50.48Cappl.firstlight@gmail.com
18:51.08Ashamedhttp://chadiam.com/engenit/team/teemskeet.php .... That text list right there is gold
18:51.13VasI was hoping someone here could tell me how to add a new resource to the game. Like Minerals, Vespene, and I want to add 3-4 others up there.  Trying to bring back an old map I liked and need help fixing it up and stuff.
18:53.19VasAlso just a note, for those sending files and such to others, the best way to do that is dropbox, rather than publicly announcing your email on an IRC.  :P
19:00.22Ashamedwho cares this IRC isn't going to do anything with it
19:01.04AshamedRather not have the hassle with something if I can send it via email honestly
19:14.55VasSo can anyone help with adding a resource to the game?
19:26.22piratehttp://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/map-development/24313-how-to-make-a-custom-resource-start-to-finsh/
19:29.33VasI meant add, not change the icon of terrazine
19:30.42pirateright, the game supports a total of four resources
19:30.43VasAlso I don't see a "sshow resources" anywhere under "race"
19:32.46VasAh, there it is, had to click detailed view instead of table view
19:33.24pirateso if you want to add 4 additional resources to the game, you're going to have to simulate it
19:34.28VasThis map already does that in a way, i wanted to move them up top but I guess Blizzard is too lazy to allow people to add more than 4.
19:34.45VasAfter all, they've been ignoring the 10 second freeze replay bug for 4 years.
19:36.08pirateif you simulate custom resources with custom ui, there's no reason you can't place them at the top
19:40.04VasIt would be nice if the editor would let me preview a UI element without saving, uploading the map, then loading the game.
19:40.58pirateif you develop ui with layout files you can preview ui changes without reloading the game
19:42.28Vaslayout files?
19:43.23piratethe ui panel of the editor
19:43.45pirateit will take time to learn, if you're unfamiliar with it. Since you're editing ui xml
19:45.39VasThis isn't exactly a preview, it just shows XML
19:46.18VasAnd it doesn't show the panel made by the triggers anywhere in it for me to click on.
19:46.47VasXML view != preview :P
19:47.05pirateno, since you need to hookup your dialog items via triggers
19:47.11piratethe preview is in game
19:47.44pirateCtrl + Alt + F12
19:48.06piratehttp://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/tutorials/20323-ui-sc2layout-files-override-method-aiurchef-method/
19:48.25CapArcane thanks for being awesome :)
19:48.43Capslaps ArcanePariah around a bit with a large fishbot
19:48.48VasSo you still have to load the game to preview every edit you make.
19:49.29Capexcellent tutorial thanks for your time
19:49.46pirateno, with sc2 running, enter the UI debugger (ctrl + alt + f12), and you can make changes to ui elements live
19:49.58Capso how do you add these to my custom unit
19:58.55VasI remember in some games, some UI elements have a collapse button on them.  Any way to do that here easily without changing the XML stuff?
20:07.00Goa_pff when rewamping SC2 UI they could have really added some custimazition to arcade lobies...: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXB6sIVdg04
20:09.38Capaah no worries very straight forward to add them...tested it and works as intended 100%
20:09.50Cap\o/
20:13.34Vasthat last SC2 mapster link has screenshots that make me think the user was making SC2 maps in Windows 95.  :P
20:21.12VasIn game UI editor doesn't do anything.
20:21.40VasI clicked elements, I tried to move them, nothing moved, I edited the offsets of some things, nothing happened.
20:22.00pirateyeah, it's not very straight forward
20:22.18pirateyou need to learn how anchors and offsets work
20:22.28VasIt had anchor set to 0
20:22.37VasI know how offsets work
20:24.03pirateI highly recommend reading through helral's tutorial
20:24.10VasI'm pretty sure the test document button just screwed up my game too, my game settings.  Cause it loaded up the map in some tiny resolution.
20:24.19VasI am not a programmer, I do not know XML
20:24.53piratesure, and neither am I
20:25.10piratebut I took the time to learn, and it made ui development in sc2 much easier for me
20:25.26VasI wish the developer of the map hadn't given up and run off.
20:25.52VasHappens a lot, developers of good maps running off and abandoning everything.
20:27.28VasApparently he never uploaded the latest version of the map so now all my changes are useless.
20:28.27VasAnd I have no clue how to stop the enemy buildings from spawning near another player's buildings.  I lost a round earlier because a Hive spawned right on top of my farms.
20:33.15Vashttp://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/empire-builder/
20:38.16VasGuess I should update my map since I haven't uploaded it in 2 years and it's had plenty of updates since then.
20:41.58Vashttp://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/water-labyrinth/ - Was an attempt at bringing back a map from Starcraft 1 and making it a good Melee map.
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21:10.13Ashamedanyone play with own cloud?

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