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| 14:10.19 | Repo | New map: Dharnassus - http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/dharnassus/ |
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| 15:50.29 | pirate | anyone have access to dwarfy wow props like the screenshots: http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/terrain/20520-yeti-needs-your-creative-ideas/#p12 |
| 15:51.26 | pirate | looks like there was an uldum asset pack, but is long since deleted |
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| 16:30.52 | duckies | ~seen arcanepariah |
| 16:30.54 | purl | arcanepariah <~Thunderbi@cpe-76-94-24-47.socal.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 3d 21h 25m 42s ago, saying: 'http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/general/general-chat/83537-data-wizards-in-void/'. |
| 16:31.29 | duckies | okay.. there goes my chance of instant editor question consultation |
| 16:32.16 | duckies | runs in circles spontaniosly quacking and backflipping. Who will help him now? |
| 16:32.38 | duckies | save me purl! |
| 16:46.27 | pirate | whatchu need? |
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| 17:43.08 | Dustin|Home | sup |
| 17:45.32 | pirate | oh god |
| 17:45.41 | pirate | navigating the editor with a trackpad |
| 17:45.45 | pirate | is the worst thing |
| 17:49.25 | Dustin|Home | I did it with a trackpad over teamviewer once... |
| 17:49.27 | Dustin|Home | never again |
| 17:52.27 | pirate | you gotta do what you gotta do |
| 17:55.04 | Dustin|Home | yup yup |
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| 19:01.53 | Ashamed | Roar roar roar? |
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| 19:53.56 | Dustin|Work | Nice |
| 19:54.13 | Dustin|Work | I think i have the wall,cannon placement along a grid and placing single pieces worked out |
| 19:54.34 | Dustin|Work | last hard thing for this map will be detecting closed/open walls |
| 20:02.24 | Dustin|Work | Man I don't even know how to go about this one... |
| 20:03.28 | Dustin|Work | Jademus_Sreg, you around? |
| 20:04.17 | ArcanePariah | Dustin|Work: What ails you today? |
| 20:04.34 | ArcanePariah | Also, I dug up more shit in Void/Storm, lots of other new treats |
| 20:06.05 | Ashamed | New treats! |
| 20:06.13 | Ashamed | I am still on the fence if i should buy the damn game on release |
| 20:06.41 | ArcanePariah | Well, you don't need to buy it if you are only doing arcade stuff |
| 20:07.08 | ArcanePariah | You only need to own one of the expansions to do Arcade work |
| 20:07.52 | ArcanePariah | Only really two reasons to buy Void: Campaign and 1v1 Melee |
| 20:13.32 | Dustin|Work | Just trying to figure out how I'm going to detect and display when you box an area in with your walls |
| 20:15.36 | Dustin|Work | I thought about just checking all the points randomly, and checking pathing distance between some other points on the map and if they are all unpatahable, then grab all the units in an area for the player, check lowest/highest x/y to form a Region, then create some Creep tumors inside the region, make the creep team colored and make buildings stop creep spread |
| 20:15.43 | Dustin|Work | But that sounds like some shit |
| 20:16.10 | Dustin|Work | And not very accurate |
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| 20:25.35 | Bounty | peow |
| 20:29.52 | Dustin|Work | supp |
| 20:32.09 | Bounty | Doodad Hunt 2 is public Dustin, FYI |
| 20:32.55 | Ashamed | w00t arcane i wont be buying void that means! |
| 20:33.16 | Ashamed | I have yet to even play terrans campaign... let alone zergs... lol |
| 20:36.53 | ArcanePariah | Dustin|Work: You can use the concave method perhaps |
| 20:37.13 | ArcanePariah | concave hull* |
| 20:37.26 | Dustin|Work | hmmm |
| 20:37.34 | ArcanePariah | I'm trying to remember precisely how it worked from my algo class |
| 20:38.18 | ArcanePariah | But in a nutshell, starting a point, you can go left to right, checking angles and do it for points below and above the starting point and if they arrive at the same point, its an enclosed space |
| 20:38.48 | ArcanePariah | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convex_hull_algorithms |
| 20:39.59 | ArcanePariah | Now, I'm not sure this actually solves your problem, since you are trying to determine if the space is enclosed or not |
| 20:41.37 | ArcanePariah | The only surefire method I can think of is to construct a line between each wall unit, and see if the pathiing between 2 points on both sides of the line is the same distance as the regular distance |
| 20:41.50 | ArcanePariah | If it is the same, it is not enclosed |
| 20:42.40 | Dustin|Work | Man this is a bitch of a problem lol |
| 20:42.51 | ArcanePariah | Yes, yes it is, my algo professor said as much :D |
| 20:43.03 | ArcanePariah | These are some of the most fundamnetal problems in CS |
| 20:43.18 | ArcanePariah | And thus the algos to solve them are often quite complex |
| 20:43.45 | Dustin|Work | This might be the reason no-one has made a Rampart clone lol |
| 20:44.12 | ArcanePariah | What I think you will need to resort to is the raycast method |
| 20:44.57 | ArcanePariah | Take a point, and raycast 360 times (once per degree), If any of the ray casts hit nothing, the space is not enclosed |
| 20:46.13 | Dustin|Work | Yeah, and just run that for everypoint, I can check the colision unit owner to make sure it's your wall for the majority of the hits, I can probably find a workaround for detecting the actual area and displaying it |
| 20:46.30 | ArcanePariah | So what you are going to want is search area effect along a line, and have a unit fire off 360 of them (can reduce for speed/performance increase). If the search fails at any time, not enclosed. |
| 20:47.10 | Dustin|Work | Would be nice if someone had made a raycast library for sc2 |
| 20:47.15 | Dustin|Work | so I dont have to roll my own lol |
| 20:48.07 | ArcanePariah | Someone else suggested online a different solution. Order the walls, and do a topological sort. Topo sorts can detect if a graph is cyclic or not |
| 20:48.23 | ArcanePariah | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topological_sorting |
| 20:48.42 | Dustin|Work | hmmm |
| 20:49.12 | ArcanePariah | You are probably going to need a linked list esque structure |
| 20:49.22 | ArcanePariah | Each wall needs to store an array of adjacent walls |
| 20:50.25 | Dustin|Work | Gotcha, ya I was thinking about a method using A* to start at a wall point, and see if i can work my way with a path back to the start wall |
| 20:51.28 | ArcanePariah | https://youtu.be/GXlzocKSJmw?t=25 |
| 20:51.37 | Dustin|Work | Just watched those :D |
| 20:51.42 | Dustin|Work | Im buying the medic so hard |
| 20:51.45 | ArcanePariah | Apparently Blizzard is good at mind reading peoples wants |
| 20:51.54 | ArcanePariah | Evangelion, Samus and Warhammer in one character |
| 20:51.59 | Dustin|Work | hehe |
| 20:54.07 | ArcanePariah | As some have noted: Murky on Vulture = Pure Win. Marine Murky on Vulture = Over 9000 Win |
| 20:54.16 | Dustin|Work | hah yiss |
| 21:05.16 | ArcanePariah | Shall I rant about the fun treats we get in void? |
| 21:06.03 | Dustin|Work | Do itt |
| 21:06.35 | ArcanePariah | Was combing through the localized text strings yesterday, founds lots of fun things |
| 21:08.45 | ArcanePariah | So, going to recount all the fun things I found, so let us begin |
| 21:09.32 | ArcanePariah | EDSTR_ENUMVAL_e_abilBehaviorCycleModeNormal=Normal |
| 21:09.32 | ArcanePariah | EDSTR_ENUMVAL_e_abilBehaviorCycleModeRandom=Random |
| 21:09.32 | ArcanePariah | EDSTR_ENUMVAL_e_abilBehaviorCycleModeRandomNoRepeat=Random No Repeat |
| 21:09.56 | ArcanePariah | Behavior abilties can now specifiy multiple behaviors per level. You can then set it so activatingt he ability rotates among those behaviors |
| 21:10.24 | ArcanePariah | So if you want a behavior type ability to do multi mode stuff (say, each behavior provides a different weapon) you can do so |
| 21:11.00 | ArcanePariah | Will be very useful for units that wish different modes of operation, since the behaviors can enable/disable diffreent abilties. |
| 21:11.09 | ArcanePariah | Won't require one to do a morph abiltiy |
| 21:11.17 | ArcanePariah | EDSTR_ENUMVAL_e_actorMsgModelSwapStackPop=Model Swap Stack Pop |
| 21:11.17 | ArcanePariah | EDSTR_ENUMVAL_e_actorMsgModelSwapStackPush=Model Swap Stack Push |
| 21:11.24 | ArcanePariah | You can store model swaps |
| 21:11.39 | ArcanePariah | This allows one to swap to a different model, remember the model you started with and swap back |
| 21:12.20 | Dustin|Work | That's nifty |
| 21:12.30 | ArcanePariah | This eliminates the need to keep track of what you swapped from. |
| 21:13.00 | ArcanePariah | The main power that comes with this is use with swaps associated with abilties. Consider a polymorph abilit |
| 21:13.21 | ArcanePariah | Right now, if you swap from the unit model to the creep model, swapping back afterwards can be... tricky |
| 21:13.39 | ArcanePariah | This eliminates the trickiness entirely |
| 21:14.06 | ArcanePariah | Swap to Creep with push on berhavior apply. On behavior remove -> Model Swap Stack Pop |
| 21:14.34 | ArcanePariah | I won't list the entire list of strings here, but this one should give you an idea |
| 21:14.35 | ArcanePariah | EDSTR_ENUMVAL_e_behaviorStateUnitAttrOffArmored=Unit Attribute Off - Armored |
| 21:14.45 | ArcanePariah | TL;DR, dynamic armor attributes |
| 21:14.55 | ArcanePariah | Behaviors can now add/remove armor attributes |
| 21:15.15 | ArcanePariah | EDSTR_ENUMVAL_e_damageResponseDamageValueOriginal=Original Amount |
| 21:15.15 | ArcanePariah | EDSTR_ENUMVAL_e_damageResponseDamageValueRemaining=Remaining Amount |
| 21:15.40 | ArcanePariah | Damage responses can now be configured to alter damage based on the base amount or on the modified amount. Further more, damage responses can now be assigned a priority |
| 21:15.56 | ArcanePariah | EDSTR_FIELDHINT_CAbilBehavior_CycleMode=If there are multiple behaviors for the current ability level, this setting controls how it cycles through those abilities. |
| 21:16.05 | ArcanePariah | Coming back to behavior cycling |
| 21:16.24 | ArcanePariah | So one can easily design, with the damage response stuff, a rotating shield type if one so desired |
| 21:16.39 | ArcanePariah | EDSTR_FIELDHINT_SDamageResponse_DamageValue=What damage value is used in the damage calculations. Remaining - The amount of damage left to be done, possibly modified by other damage responses. Original - The amount of damage to be done before any other damage responses modified it. |
| 21:16.52 | ArcanePariah | The hint for the damage response Damage Value field |
| 21:17.08 | ArcanePariah | Moving on to another fun alteration |
| 21:17.08 | ArcanePariah | EDSTR_FIELDHINT_CEffectCreatePersistent_OffsetRandMode=If the RandomOffset flag is on, this specifies what type of randomness to use. |
| 21:17.34 | ArcanePariah | This pplied to period and effect as well. You can now use different random distributions for selecting random effects/offset/periods in create persistents |
| 21:18.02 | ArcanePariah | EDSTR_ENUMHINT_e_actorMsgEventMacroRun=Executes the messages in a CActorEventMacroRunnable macro. The terms field enables the macro to test conditions to determine whether to send a given message. |
| 21:18.13 | ArcanePariah | This allows one to run multiple actor events at once |
| 21:18.22 | ArcanePariah | actor messages* |
| 21:18.33 | ArcanePariah | EDSTR_ENUMHINT_e_actorHostSiteOpsListPositionTail=Add or remove the site op at the end of the site op chain. |
| 21:18.33 | ArcanePariah | EDSTR_ENUMHINT_e_actorHostSiteOpsListPositionHead=Add or remove the site op at the beginning of the site op chain. |
| 21:18.53 | ArcanePariah | This is powerful, we can now add/remove site ops dynamically. Currently site ops can only be set. |
| 21:19.08 | ArcanePariah | EDSTR_ENUMHINT_e_actorMsgHostSiteOpsAdd=Target: CActorBearings. Dynamically adds a siteOp to the head or tail of an existing siteOp chain on the specified host. |
| 21:19.12 | ArcanePariah | Two things with this |
| 21:19.21 | ArcanePariah | This is the message to add and there is one to remove site ops |
| 21:19.42 | ArcanePariah | The other thing of note here is the Target thing, the actor message hints now include what actors they can be sent to. |
| 21:20.10 | ArcanePariah | Now, you can send any actor message to any actor, and it can receive/do stuff with it, but this indicate what actors this message will actually do anything to |
| 21:20.30 | ArcanePariah | EDSTR_ENUMHINT_e_actorMsgMessageForward=Target: CActor. Sends whatever message was received to the target actor. Useful for things like forwarding animation messages to child actors. |
| 21:20.46 | ArcanePariah | This is also powerful, one can now setup actor messages to be autoforwarded. |
| 21:29.06 | ArcanePariah | EDSTR_ENUMVAL_e_damageResponseCategoryEnhancement=Enhancement |
| 21:29.06 | ArcanePariah | EDSTR_ENUMVAL_e_damageResponseCategoryEvasion=Evasion |
| 21:29.06 | ArcanePariah | EDSTR_ENUMVAL_e_damageResponseCategoryProc=Procedural |
| 21:29.06 | ArcanePariah | EDSTR_ENUMVAL_e_damageResponseCategoryReduction=Reduction |
| 21:29.06 | ArcanePariah | EDSTR_ENUMVAL_e_damageResponseCategoryShield=Shield |
| 21:29.06 | ArcanePariah | EDSTR_FIELDHINT_SDamageResponse_ProvideCategories=Used to check against existing response prevention requests. |
| 21:29.07 | ArcanePariah | EDSTR_FIELDHINT_SDamageResponse_PreventCategories=Used to prevent subsequent responses that match any of these categories. |
| 21:29.33 | ArcanePariah | Damage responses can now be sorted/catagorized, and you can use said catagorization to prevent others of the same type |
| 21:30.25 | ArcanePariah | So if Response one provides Procedural and Response two prevents procedural. If response two goes off at the same time as response one, response one will not happen |
| 21:37.38 | ArcanePariah | EDSTR_FIELDHINT_SSoundAssetTemplate_File=The pattern to use to fill in sound asset file, if a TemplateParam is specified. Leave blank to not include in the template replacement. use ^TemplateParam^ where you want the template Id parameter to go. |
| 21:38.16 | ArcanePariah | This indicates one no longer has to enter every sound in for a sound data entry. OYu can just put the base file name in. So instead of Sound_01, Sound_02, etc. You can just enable Template and put Sound |
| 21:38.40 | ArcanePariah | I'll have more stuff later, gotta afk. |
| 21:42.50 | Ashamed | no |
| 21:42.50 | Ashamed | afk |
| 21:56.39 | Ashamed | Some muslim hacked my twitter account >< and now all twitter things im into is muslim pages,etc |
| 21:56.40 | Ashamed | lol |
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| 21:57.28 | Ashamed | t is popular right now! |
| 21:57.34 | Ashamed | apperntly that is* |
| 21:58.04 | Ashamed | I guess it may not be a muslim lol |
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