| 00:09.19 | Dustin|Work | Ugh work is draggin tonight |
| 01:05.20 | DeadZergling | same, my work can kiss my ass |
| 01:05.35 | DeadZergling | I don't get paid anywhere near enough to deal with the level of horse shit they throw at me |
| 01:05.56 | Dustin|Work | Ready to go hoooooome :( |
| 01:21.54 | Ashamed_home | I know ima ask for like a 10k raise lol |
| 01:22.46 | Dustin|Work | hahah doo it |
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| 07:12.21 | Dalruin | why is the scmapster forums giving me errors? |
| 07:34.27 | duckies | what sort of errors? |
| 07:38.27 | Dalruin | The server at forums.sc2mapster.com can't be found, because the DNS lookup failed. DNS is the network service that translates a website's name to its Internet address. |
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| 07:40.57 | duckies | uh |
| 07:41.03 | duckies | works fine for me :s |
| 07:41.26 | Dalruin | the tutorials |
| 07:41.43 | Dalruin | all the tutorials are giving me that error, everything else is working |
| 07:42.03 | duckies | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/tutorials/82760-siege-bunker-sc2-editor-attachment-lazy-tutorial/#p6 |
| 07:42.07 | duckies | opened this just fine |
| 07:42.53 | Dalruin | http://www.sc2mapster.com/wiki/galaxy/tutorials/ |
| 07:43.04 | Dalruin | go there and click on a tutorial, tell me if it works hehe |
| 07:43.24 | Dalruin | i can go to the tutorials through http://wiki.sc2mapster.com/Tutorials |
| 07:43.32 | Dalruin | but not that first one |
| 07:43.53 | Dalruin | weird but whatever |
| 07:44.35 | duckies | looks like a bad link |
| 07:44.47 | duckies | because I've never seen anything "forums.mapster" ever |
| 07:45.56 | Dalruin | Yeah, well guess doesn't matter since i can use the other page, same tutorials so *shrug* |
| 07:46.37 | Dalruin | *sigh* i need to make units for my map |
| 07:47.04 | Dalruin | Triggers done, terrain done... no i have to add units to plug into everything -.- and i hate the data editor |
| 07:48.30 | duckies | it's ok, units themselves are not too troublesome |
| 07:49.13 | duckies | it's actors what make intelligent gentlemen into murderous madmen |
| 07:49.51 | duckies | but I imagine as long as you tread carefully duplicating stuff you'll be fine :D |
| 07:50.16 | Dalruin | Well, make heros, and custom abilities that make them all unique |
| 07:51.52 | Dalruin | Pretty much remaking enfo's from WC3 |
| 07:52.02 | Dalruin | just gotta make the heros now -.- |
| 07:53.18 | duckies | yeah.. if I were you I'd make sure you've left a descendant first, someone to continue the bloodline you know, just in case if things with data editor go south |
| 07:54.05 | Dalruin | Yeah, not a fan of this part |
| 07:54.09 | Dalruin | at all -.- |
| 07:54.35 | Dalruin | seems more difficult to me, SC1 and WC3 were much easier for me, here shit just goes fuckin wrong |
| 07:54.49 | Dalruin | for seemingly no reason and takes forever to fix -.- |
| 07:56.21 | duckies | eh, well, if non-native language users could figure it out, I'm sure a born english-user such as yourself can handle it well enough with little patience and tutorial reading =D |
| 07:57.35 | duckies | once you've dabbled in it enough, it all starts to make sense. It's just super modular, that's all. |
| 07:57.39 | Dalruin | Well, i work full time, go to college full time, and don't have enough time and patience for it hehe |
| 07:58.55 | duckies | how can you both work fulltime and go to college full time. do you sleep 4h a day? |
| 07:59.59 | Dalruin | 35-40 hrs work a week and 14 school hours *shrug* sleep more than 4h a day |
| 08:00.03 | Dalruin | i just dont get weekends |
| 08:00.49 | Dalruin | maybe it was 12 hrs school a week... *shrug* 4 classes |
| 08:00.57 | Dalruin | minimum for full time hehe |
| 08:02.09 | Dalruin | Anyways, yeah makes my time precious to me, and i wanna finish the map... but this editor doesn't share my opinion about time |
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| 08:05.33 | duckies | yeah, editor insists you to be in command of every single thing, thus requires experience in most of its fields :s |
| 08:06.21 | duckies | with the limited time you have, it'll probably take you a month per hero v_v |
| 08:06.34 | duckies | if you were to do everything by yourself |
| 08:06.52 | Dalruin | yeah |
| 08:07.05 | Dalruin | was already thinking like a week or 2 per hero |
| 08:07.15 | Dalruin | my map is gunna take like half a fuckin year to get ready lol |
| 08:07.42 | Dalruin | I don't like how they handle maps and game lobbies etc in sc2 |
| 08:07.52 | duckies | I once wanted to make a simple map. I approximated it would take no more than 2 months to make. It took 8 |
| 08:08.01 | Dalruin | WC3 you just download a map and fuckin host it. |
| 08:08.22 | Dalruin | here its like you got the arcade and people rarely seem to venture off the front 2 pages |
| 08:09.13 | duckies | yeah. b-net 0.2 |
| 08:09.45 | Dalruin | i want to see a list of game lobbies and just be like... whats that? looks fun and people are obviously playing since there is a host |
| 08:09.47 | Dalruin | join |
| 08:09.55 | Dalruin | fun times |
| 08:10.20 | duckies | well, to be completely fair there is an open games list.. |
| 08:11.02 | Dalruin | doesn't let me select the fun maps though |
| 08:11.04 | Dalruin | just melee shit |
| 08:11.12 | duckies | it does? |
| 08:11.38 | duckies | I think you're looking in custom maps instead of arcade |
| 08:12.05 | Dalruin | oh yeah i was hehe |
| 08:12.12 | duckies | v_v |
| 08:12.43 | Dalruin | still not what i want though |
| 08:12.51 | Dalruin | just list of maps being played with open lobby |
| 08:13.12 | Dalruin | I want you know to see shit like "Trying out new map, join plz !!!111!" |
| 08:13.26 | Dalruin | Or "Squadron Tower defense, come lrn from pros" |
| 08:13.29 | Dalruin | Or some shit |
| 08:13.33 | duckies | most of us do t_t |
| 08:13.50 | Dalruin | Same thing with D3 |
| 08:14.12 | Dalruin | I want a list of fucckin lobbies/games being played with names specifying the purpose and what they are doing |
| 08:14.18 | duckies | but then again, we've been at it for 5 years now, so it's gotten to the point where capacity to care about the topic has been all but exhasuted |
| 08:14.48 | Dalruin | Just disappointed in this new version of bnet |
| 08:14.54 | duckies | hah |
| 08:15.03 | Dalruin | makes finding games and people to enjoy them with crappy imo |
| 08:15.05 | duckies | lets out a loud laugh |
| 08:15.09 | Dalruin | d3 and sc2 |
| 08:15.36 | duckies | were you around 2010? |
| 08:15.46 | Dalruin | prob *shrug* |
| 08:15.57 | duckies | http://starcraft2.hu/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/kQk61.jpg |
| 08:16.19 | Dalruin | lol |
| 08:16.20 | Dalruin | i like it |
| 08:17.36 | duckies | well, in lotv we're getting tournaments and BW chat back. Who knows, maybe something something lobbies wil happen too |
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| 13:47.13 | Repo | New map: Starcraft Insurrection in Starcraft 2 - http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/insurrectionsc2/ |
| 14:37.28 | Ashamed | -.- morning? |
| 14:50.34 | turtles | hi |
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| 15:23.07 | turtles | Hey. You people are better data-ers than I. |
| 15:23.18 | turtles | Can someone tell me what backswing is? |
| 15:23.38 | turtles | is that the period of time between acquiring a target and applying the weapons effect? |
| 15:31.25 | Ashamed_work | http://www.sc2mapster.com/wiki/galaxy/data/weapons/ |
| 15:32.37 | Ashamed_work | slaps Ashamed around a bit with a large fishbot |
| 15:32.50 | Ashamed_work | slaps Bounty around a bit with a large fishbot |
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| 15:34.20 | turtles | "The cooldown before another weapon can fire " |
| 15:34.30 | turtles | so it only effects units with multiple weapons? |
| 15:37.01 | Ashamed_work | i guess |
| 15:37.38 | turtles | When a unit is stutter stepping (move, attack, move, attack, move... etc) there is a delay while it stops moving, pauses, fires the weapon, pauses and then continues to move |
| 15:37.59 | turtles | I'm trying to figure out how long that pause takes for each unit |
| 15:38.47 | turtles | the unit I'm looking at currently is the stalker which has 1000 for acceleration and turning speed |
| 15:39.04 | Ashamed_work | yeah i dunno -.- lol. try changing that to a high number |
| 15:39.08 | Ashamed_work | see if the delay increases |
| 15:39.11 | Ashamed_work | if it does you have your stat |
| 15:39.47 | turtles | so I don't think it is a movement pause, it is a pause related to firing the weapon and would be in weapons |
| 15:40.26 | turtles | I guess I can play with stalker movement to give it 999999999 acceleration but I'm not sure that's the limiting factor |
| 15:40.44 | turtles | marines have the same acceleration |
| 15:41.00 | turtles | but there is a MUCH smaller delay for firing its weapon |
| 15:43.51 | turtles | I think it's damage point I'm after. But I'm going to look into backswing too. I think the wiki page is wrong on that one |
| 15:46.31 | Ashamed_work | turtles |
| 15:46.47 | turtles | ? |
| 15:46.51 | Ashamed_work | I think i found it |
| 15:47.12 | Ashamed_work | under weapin Stats: random Delay |
| 15:47.17 | Ashamed_work | There is a Max and Min |
| 15:49.08 | turtles | The stalker and marine have the same values for that field |
| 15:49.16 | turtles | and yet have vastly different delays |
| 15:49.30 | Ashamed_work | then i bet its rotation |
| 15:49.37 | Ashamed_work | rotate before fire |
| 15:49.41 | Ashamed_work | is enabled for stalker |
| 15:49.42 | Ashamed_work | i bet |
| 15:49.45 | turtles | I think it is damage point and backswing |
| 15:50.00 | turtles | damage point = pause before, backswing = pause after |
| 15:51.02 | turtles | so if those values are 0 you can move, stop, fire and move again instantaniously |
| 15:51.19 | turtles | (neglecting turning speed and acceleration/deceleration) |
| 15:51.45 | Ashamed_work | oh the flag was turn before move |
| 15:51.52 | Ashamed_work | i wonder if there is one for attakc i dunno >< |
| 15:56.36 | Ashamed_work | aww |
| 15:56.42 | Ashamed_work | i bet you need to look at the set effect |
| 15:56.45 | Ashamed_work | and damge effect |
| 15:56.48 | Ashamed_work | check those delays out |
| 15:58.00 | turtles | Yeah, the wiki is definitely incorrect about backswing |
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| 19:42.30 | DeadZergling | wow, the new webchat freenode look is gayer than ever |
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| 20:01.55 | DeadZergling | anyways, Dustin|Home , when I drag that file over on your ftp, it starts downloading it from my own computer or some crap |
| 20:02.07 | DeadZergling | so may have to do it the ugly skype way or something |
| 20:02.28 | DeadZergling | it just keeps putting the damn thing under c:\users\myname\downloads\ |
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| 20:07.24 | DeadZergling | maybe this way will work better, tried it with the evilness known as IE |
| 20:07.30 | DeadZergling | seems to be cooperating a little more |
| 20:08.07 | DeadZergling | aside from the 10 hours remaining part |
| 20:11.51 | DeadZergling | well Dustin, if you feel the urge to turn your server computer off, don't |
| 20:12.07 | DeadZergling | going to be uploading all day apparently |
| 20:29.08 | Dustin_Hendricks | lol |
| 20:29.13 | Dustin_Hendricks | It never turns off :P |
| 20:56.19 | Bounty | Dustin... response yet? |
| 20:56.32 | Bounty | oh and.. |
| 20:56.33 | Bounty | peow |
| 20:58.27 | DeadZergling | one of the funner ideas I had this week, take a small bottle of alcohol to work to get rid of it |
| 20:58.40 | DeadZergling | gonna suck anyways, so may as well be a little tipsy too |
| 21:12.43 | Dustin_Hendricks | Nope :( You? |
| 21:23.40 | Bounty | nope :( |
| 21:35.18 | DeadZergling | what are you both waiting on responses for/ |
| 21:35.45 | Bounty | we applied to Blizz |
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| 21:35.53 | Bounty | for that Technical Designer positiuon |
| 21:35.57 | Bounty | position* |
| 21:36.05 | DeadZergling | oh yea that, forgot about it and never did apply |
| 21:36.22 | Bounty | You should have |
| 21:36.46 | DeadZergling | meh, from the sounds of it didn't miss out on much |
| 21:37.25 | Bounty | That is an interesting way to look at it |
| 21:38.01 | DeadZergling | well, it is California |
| 21:38.29 | DeadZergling | I still could probably, the listing is still there |
| 21:38.46 | DeadZergling | but honestly not sure I'd be willing to move |
| 21:39.07 | Bounty | As long as they pay you enough to live there, I think the move is worth it |
| 21:39.38 | Ashamed_work | Dead you are in washington right? |
| 21:39.50 | DeadZergling | yep |
| 21:39.56 | Ashamed_work | Thats not too bad of a drive |
| 21:40.05 | Ashamed_work | move wouldn't be too hard |
| 21:40.15 | Ashamed_work | but i would rather live in Washington too lol |
| 21:40.16 | DeadZergling | no, but I've been there before, I didn't care for it |
| 21:40.56 | Ashamed_work | Whats the pay? |
| 21:41.10 | Bounty | for the position @Blizz? |
| 21:41.14 | Bounty | No idea |
| 21:41.20 | Bounty | Its not on glassdoor or anything |
| 21:41.21 | Ashamed_work | oh is that what we are talking about |
| 21:41.22 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:41.31 | Ashamed_work | i bet like 60-70 |
| 21:41.33 | Ashamed_work | mby |
| 21:41.47 | Ashamed_work | i dunno the game industry is getting pretty big so they may pay less ha |
| 21:41.51 | Bounty | I do know that it is like 1 position above Ryan Schutter |
| 21:42.03 | Bounty | or something like that |
| 21:42.19 | DeadZergling | you two did remember the cover letter, right? |
| 21:42.29 | Bounty | oh shit, really? |
| 21:42.30 | Bounty | duh |
| 21:42.35 | Bounty | of course |
| 21:43.39 | Ashamed_work | yeah that ryan guy prob doesn't get paid super well lol but i dunno |
| 21:49.48 | Bounty | Well he was able to move to Irvine so |
| 21:49.53 | Bounty | probably enough to live there |
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| 21:56.09 | Dustin_Hendricks | Yeah I spent a few days on my cover letter :P |
| 21:56.16 | Dustin_Hendricks | And sorting my maps and stuff |
| 21:57.18 | Ashamed_work | sigh this nfs dns round robbin solution of mine is going to be harder then i thought >< |
| 21:57.43 | Ashamed_work | I can mount nfs via hostname but it doesn't seem like it queries the hostname lol... it just mounts it with the current IP >< |
| 21:57.56 | Ashamed_work | so switching the DNS doesn't stop it from writing to the same fucking IP ha |
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| 22:03.11 | Ashamed_work | http://imgur.com/a/KJpyK |
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| 22:34.27 | Bounty | Any modelers here? Specifically those who can do animations |
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