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| 08:38.23 | Goa_ | 6.5 TeV |
| 08:39.16 | Goa_ | ups, not here |
| 08:57.09 | DeadZergling | well duckies, turns out an ability I thought I had right, was working because of a technicality only. So got to figure out how to make it function right today. |
| 09:01.51 | duckies | the life of a mapmaker is exciting, isn't it? :D |
| 09:06.21 | DeadZergling | it is something like that, although stressful was more the word today |
| 10:58.23 | Goa_ | hmm |
| 10:58.31 | Goa_ | should I "upgrade" to windows 10? |
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| 13:23.27 | IskatuMesk | ur fat |
| 14:14.16 | A1win | Goa_, release date is on July 29, and there's 12 months during which it's free (from win7/8) |
| 14:14.38 | A1win | *during which upgrading is free |
| 14:14.59 | A1win | Once you've on win10, it won't cost anything. |
| 15:06.33 | Bounty | So, for a patreon page... what would you guys suggest as the rate of charging? |
| 15:06.38 | Bounty | Per Arcade Game or Per Month? |
| 15:06.42 | Bounty | I am thinking the former. |
| 15:14.07 | IskatuMesk | bounty did you ever finish your new tps engine or make anything demonstrable |
| 15:15.05 | Bounty | You mean Tessera? |
| 15:15.09 | IskatuMesk | no |
| 15:15.12 | IskatuMesk | I don't think so |
| 15:15.18 | IskatuMesk | it was something you mentioned last year |
| 15:15.32 | IskatuMesk | part of your game projects or something |
| 15:15.51 | Bounty | Oh, probably not |
| 15:16.05 | Bounty | I am working on this ATM https://www.dropbox.com/s/e557ie50m4y9cv6/Project%20Aqua%20-%20Abilities%20and%20Impact%20Types.wmv?dl=0 |
| 15:16.27 | Bounty | ^ gameplay demo |
| 15:16.30 | Bounty | http://gfycat.com/CreamyConventionalIndochinesetiger# |
| 15:16.33 | Bounty | ^ HUD demo |
| 15:16.54 | IskatuMesk | you showed me a melee combat demo a while back |
| 15:17.16 | IskatuMesk | nice |
| 15:17.41 | IskatuMesk | do you know if sc2 supports root motion |
| 15:18.14 | Bounty | I could answer that if I knew what that was :) |
| 15:18.25 | IskatuMesk | root bone movement translates into ingame movement |
| 15:18.32 | Bounty | Oh and the melee combat demo was probably Trifactiton |
| 15:18.32 | IskatuMesk | and moves the actual unit |
| 15:18.39 | Bounty | all of my TPS or FPS systems are done |
| 15:18.43 | IskatuMesk | I think trifaction was an earlier variant of it |
| 15:18.46 | IskatuMesk | I see |
| 15:19.48 | IskatuMesk | for root motion |
| 15:19.55 | IskatuMesk | let's say I have a melee animation that moves the model forward |
| 15:20.01 | IskatuMesk | that would have to move the actual unit forward |
| 15:20.32 | IskatuMesk | then neutral assumes the new resting point etc |
| 15:20.48 | IskatuMesk | it is very common in arpgs |
| 15:21.02 | IskatuMesk | like dmc, god of war |
| 15:21.23 | IskatuMesk | you might see where I am getting with this |
| 15:29.15 | Bounty | Ah |
| 15:29.23 | Bounty | Yeah it does not natively support it from the model IskatuMesk |
| 15:29.30 | Bounty | BUT you can simulate it like I did in Trifacction |
| 15:29.43 | IskatuMesk | how is it enabled |
| 15:29.49 | Bounty | Just as you describes, whenever a unit attacks it moves him forward slightly |
| 15:30.05 | IskatuMesk | I need to use the model's root animations, else the model will teleport when the animation ends |
| 15:30.10 | Bounty | You have to simulate it with the "Move Unit Instantly (Blended) trigger action. |
| 15:30.11 | IskatuMesk | as the animations were designed for root motion specifically |
| 15:30.38 | Bounty | Which should work perfectly fine |
| 15:30.53 | IskatuMesk | unless you propose to freeze the bone and try to sync triggered movement to the attack |
| 15:31.18 | IskatuMesk | where is the native support exposed? |
| 15:32.23 | IskatuMesk | I guess I need to download a year's worth of updates |
| 15:33.14 | IskatuMesk | also, does sc2 support button events like hold? |
| 15:33.31 | IskatuMesk | for, say, chargeup |
| 15:33.50 | Bounty | No but you can simulate it like I did in Gnolls VS Trolls |
| 15:34.13 | Bounty | You set a keypress boolean to true when w/e is clicked |
| 15:34.20 | Bounty | and add a "Wait" after it |
| 15:34.32 | Bounty | after the wait do a check to see if the boolean is still checked as true |
| 15:34.46 | IskatuMesk | I see |
| 15:34.51 | Bounty | if it returns as still true, they're still holding the button so you then begin the charge |
| 15:35.14 | Bounty | I forget what wait time I used in Gnolls VS Trolls but I know it was very low |
| 15:35.21 | Bounty | like .07 or 0.1 |
| 15:35.53 | IskatuMesk | the combat would essentially need to be frame perfect, so yeah, it would need to be low |
| 15:36.41 | IskatuMesk | I'm going to check out trifaction but I am sure the bent latency is going to really skew my perspective |
| 15:37.09 | IskatuMesk | ok search produces no results |
| 15:37.16 | IskatuMesk | maybe this is why I didn't look earlier |
| 15:40.42 | Bounty | Trifaction is not online |
| 15:40.51 | Bounty | if you're looking for the "Charge" thing |
| 15:40.56 | Bounty | check out Gnolls VS Trolls |
| 15:41.07 | IskatuMesk | I just wanted to see your tps engine overall |
| 15:41.12 | IskatuMesk | to have an idea how it handles |
| 15:41.16 | IskatuMesk | and if the idea is at all viable |
| 15:42.57 | IskatuMesk | does the farclip partially occlude m3 or only full occlude if the origin is outside |
| 15:43.33 | IskatuMesk | hmm I guess you could make fake fog with transparent high depth biased alpha layers |
| 15:45.22 | IskatuMesk | the preview images for gnoll vs trolls leads me to believe I may get immediate eye cancer |
| 15:45.34 | IskatuMesk | it's like the gamma is set to +20 |
| 15:47.42 | IskatuMesk | I am glad google is giving me only results about some root team as opposed to anything about what I searched for... probably because no one has ever attempted this |
| 15:53.04 | Bounty | GvT is probably your best bet bc it uses the same control system as my other games |
| 15:53.09 | Bounty | only its not in third person |
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| 17:07.10 | duckies | ! |
| 17:07.17 | duckies | hey ArcanePariah |
| 17:07.35 | duckies | do you know if it's possible to display charge amount for passive ability? |
| 17:08.08 | duckies | for example, I want passive ability to display amount of certain behavior stacks a unit has |
| 17:08.24 | duckies | is there a built-in option for that, or do I need to do workarounds? :s |
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| 17:35.48 | Ashamed | http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/akon-is-bringing-electricity-to-600-million-people-in-africa-10291826.html ( how can people honestly think this is going to happen? ) |
| 17:36.47 | TwoDie | that some click bait |
| 17:41.42 | Ashamed | yeah like no single person is bringing close to a 13th of the worlds population power... |
| 17:41.45 | Ashamed | NO ONE |
| 17:42.05 | Ashamed | Its popping up everywhere online now though |
| 17:42.06 | Ashamed | -.- |
| 17:42.10 | Ashamed | people are like omg akon is so awesome |
| 17:44.30 | Ashamed | the dude doesn't even own 100 million dollars |
| 17:46.42 | IskatuMesk | leave britney alone |
| 18:21.41 | Ashamed | man i use to be all for the LGBT community.. but as they grow and start gettting more laws passed,etc... I really start liking them less and less ha |
| 18:59.55 | Goa_ | Ashamed bit like Feminists:D |
| 19:00.33 | Ashamed | yep goa |
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| 20:01.10 | EntityEnigma | YES! |
| 20:01.22 | EntityEnigma | phase 1 is complete |
| 20:01.40 | EntityEnigma | break time |
| 21:54.28 | Ashamed | erg this ldap connection not working |
| 21:55.41 | Dustin|Work | fuck ldap |
| 21:58.25 | Ashamed | especially when i am trying to upgrade depricated servers ha |
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| 22:01.31 | Swordman | Hey. Am i allowed to give players a VIP or Premium status when they supported me through Donations or watching Ads? Or is it not allowed because i'd make money with blizzards assets? |
| 22:02.28 | Ashamed | why wouldn't you be allowed to do that? |
| 22:02.29 | DeadZergling | that got frowned on for mafia at some point I believe |
| 22:02.42 | DeadZergling | not sure if they changed their stance on that or not |
| 22:02.46 | Ashamed | oh VIP in the game |
| 22:03.06 | Ashamed | i still dont see how that would be any issue.. its up to the user i feel like |
| 22:03.28 | DeadZergling | ask Blizzard, not me :) |
| 22:03.42 | Ashamed | If you can make your code turn some player into a VIP user without them donating.. I would assume it would be ok to do so the other way around |
| 22:04.23 | DeadZergling | it might have been because of the fact you couldn't get the rewards any other way for mafia |
| 22:04.32 | DeadZergling | elements TD did it too, he didn't get in trouble |
| 22:05.25 | Ashamed | yeah i mean i feel like its up to the users.. not blizzard |
| 22:05.49 | DeadZergling | eh, isn't up to the users until the profit margin gets threatened |
| 22:05.52 | Ashamed | doesn't matter if you can do it anyother way or not... if people dont think you are making a fare game... and or they have to pay to have fun.... people simply wouldn't do it lol |
| 22:07.08 | Swordman | my plan was to make people watch an ad for 5 seconds. After that, they get a code which they can redeem ingame to become a VIP. So basically they don't even have to pay money. |
| 22:08.21 | Tomura | that could work. Paying for ingame stuff could be more dangerous, depending on whether the SC2 EULA allows it or not |
| 22:09.05 | Tomura | but you probably won't get into much trouble if you don't make a significant amount of money with it |
| 22:09.26 | Swordman | And VIP users won't get any unfair advantages. Just some leveling boosts and stuff like that |
| 22:09.46 | Dustin|Work | If you handle all that outside the game I think itll be fine |
| 22:11.50 | Swordman | alright |
| 22:13.29 | Ashamed | That is how you have to do it.. to advertise it in game.. make some side website then it should be good |
| 22:13.47 | Ashamed | I mean if that mod project can make 20k ... you can ask for donations and do what ever the fuck you want code wise in your game |
| 22:14.50 | Swordman | thats how i will do it |
| 22:14.56 | Swordman | thank you guys, you really helped me |
| 22:16.01 | DeadZergling | good luck Swordman |