| 00:00.28 | Bounty | Nah, better =P |
| 00:05.12 | Bounty | The idea is to have a soccer type game in water but it is entirely physics based, you run into the ball to "kick" it [8:04:10 PM] Mark Eissler (Bounty): and the ball leaks colored pollution into the water that is based on whoever last made contact with the ball [8:04:32 PM] Mark Eissler (Bounty): so you need to not only score, but keep control of the ball and spread your pollution throughout the water :) |
| 00:05.16 | Bounty | thats the idea DeadZergling |
| 00:08.43 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 00:13.58 | Dustin|Work | http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+do+I+google%3F |
| 00:25.06 | DeadZergling | the water and metal blend together too well from that angle, Bounty |
| 00:25.38 | Bounty | Oh I know, still working on it :) |
| 00:26.15 | DeadZergling | oh by the way, do any of you know how to boost a death model's height? issue mentioned here: http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/data/79304-how-does-one-boost-a-death-models-height/#p5 |
| 00:26.49 | DeadZergling | I know how to hide the existing death model from the unit actor and just show a different model, but that seems retarded |
| 00:26.59 | DeadZergling | I should be able to just make it all happen from the unit actor |
| 00:35.21 | Bounty | no clue, I don't use death models |
| 00:42.50 | Bounty | DeadZergling https://www.dropbox.com/s/hw1nkewmvpepmtk/Screenshot%202015-05-30%2020.41.43.png?dl=0 |
| 00:42.54 | Bounty | and JademusSreg |
| 00:43.33 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 00:44.26 | Bounty | new picture lol |
| 00:46.04 | JademusSreg | Yep, still looks pretty. |
| 00:46.26 | JademusSreg | Deadz, wat's up? |
| 00:46.53 | JademusSreg | This sounds like something I could help with through trivial effort. |
| 01:28.54 | Bounty | How bad does this look? https://www.dropbox.com/s/vutkb4nbwq1ujfp/Screenshot%202015-05-30%2021.27.49.png?dl=0 |
| 01:49.37 | DeadZergling | oh, what I said before JademusSreg , if you still about |
| 01:51.15 | Bounty | final product DeadZergling https://www.dropbox.com/s/1sedbzkg8yb89gw/Ling%20League%20Water%20Scaling.png?dl=0 |
| 01:51.20 | JademusSreg | -Public- link. |
| 01:51.29 | Bounty | Had to make a few changes so the water scales well with graphical settings |
| 01:51.51 | DeadZergling | pee pee water |
| 01:54.54 | DeadZergling | basically Jade, I have a unit that starts at height -.9 |
| 01:55.04 | DeadZergling | via modify unit triggers the height goes up to 0 again |
| 01:55.17 | DeadZergling | this all works well and fine, but when he dies, he dies at -.9 height |
| 01:56.16 | Bounty | Don't like it DZ? It actually scales with graphics settings lol |
| 01:56.21 | Bounty | which is a big deal >.< |
| 01:56.35 | Bounty | The biggest deal is the medium setting |
| 01:56.42 | DeadZergling | well, I just know immediately people are going to think, pee pee water |
| 01:56.44 | DeadZergling | I sure do, lol |
| 01:56.56 | DeadZergling | how would a purple shade go, is the color of creep after all |
| 01:57.31 | Bounty | Well, one of the layers of the water is green and its a model |
| 01:57.56 | Bounty | not much I can do about changing its color outside of having a modeler do it |
| 01:58.04 | Bounty | but I think the green contrasts so well |
| 01:58.13 | Dustin|Work | Would look better a light blue if you're going to be coloring it with player stuff |
| 01:58.41 | Bounty | I have to be cautious of graphics settings, hence this method of water |
| 01:58.50 | Bounty | I would love to use lights |
| 01:58.59 | Bounty | but I know that it won't work on low settings lol |
| 01:59.07 | DeadZergling | going to try a couple other things w/ my issue, see if I have any more luck |
| 02:15.08 | JademusSreg | Deadz, do you mean when it dies, the death model appears at the original height offset of -.9? |
| 02:15.23 | DeadZergling | right |
| 02:18.38 | JademusSreg | Is the height offset set from the unit data? Height modified via code or actor? |
| 02:18.52 | Ahli | I need a tester for my new main UI... basically to test the portraits showing heroes of each player and checking if my slider is bearable or unbearable |
| 02:19.20 | DeadZergling | well, what I had going was via unit setting and modify unit |
| 02:19.26 | DeadZergling | since actor likes to reset itself a lot |
| 02:19.35 | DeadZergling | so I start the unit off at -.9 |
| 02:19.44 | DeadZergling | then have a recurring modify unit of +.05 |
| 02:20.00 | DeadZergling | all of this looks right, looks nice, etc |
| 02:21.18 | JademusSreg | Alright. And what is the purpose of this? |
| 02:21.33 | DeadZergling | is a summoned unit |
| 02:21.41 | DeadZergling | so the idea is for it to come popping out of the ground |
| 02:24.30 | JademusSreg | This could be achieved with either a missile mover of ballistic type or site op on host + site mover. |
| 02:25.12 | DeadZergling | seems a bit odd, for a unit actor |
| 02:25.48 | JademusSreg | Naw, negative heights used to not even be supported from unit data, iirc. |
| 02:26.51 | Dustin|Work | I have some Healing Obelisks that I have start out at some crazy height and then I adjust them via actors and they die at the correct height |
| 02:27.45 | DeadZergling | is it a positive or negative height, and how are you boosting height? |
| 02:27.54 | DeadZergling | i've tried modify unity, site ops, set height |
| 02:28.13 | JademusSreg | Local offset. |
| 02:29.48 | Dustin|Work | let me check |
| 02:29.56 | DeadZergling | yea, site ops = that for me a lot of the time |
| 02:32.43 | Dustin|Work | So i have the units height set really high in the unit tab, then I use Unit Change height to 0 over 2 seconds |
| 02:33.50 | JademusSreg | Morph, missile mover, and siteops site mover on host can achieve similar ends. |
| 02:34.26 | DeadZergling | you using a modify unit effect Dustin, or something else? |
| 02:37.10 | DeadZergling | I'll try it from above using modify unit, see how it goes |
| 02:37.13 | DeadZergling | then do it negatively |
| 02:40.15 | DeadZergling | i've been using site ops site mover on host Jade, it flat out isn't doing what I want |
| 02:42.12 | JademusSreg | Could use Set Height on actor create or unitbirth or whatever, then blend set height or clear height. Remember to provide names to distinguish between multiple height applications. |
| 02:44.12 | DeadZergling | well now nothing makes sense. Had him descend from height 5 over 2.1 seconds by -5.1 |
| 02:44.26 | DeadZergling | and he doesn't die anywhere, he just poofs |
| 02:45.08 | JademusSreg | Sounds like Weird Shit. =D |
| 02:45.34 | DeadZergling | pretty much, and I tried that Jade. I tried a very simple, actor creation, setHeight -.9 |
| 02:45.48 | DeadZergling | i also tried sop local offset by -.9 |
| 02:46.10 | DeadZergling | nothing else, the actor was at height 0 still. |
| 02:46.29 | JademusSreg | Suppose you're not modifying the correct entry, or an entry shared by multiple other stuff? |
| 02:46.50 | JademusSreg | Shared unit actors via separate entries with the same token, that's pretty common. |
| 02:47.38 | DeadZergling | i don't think so, the other ops work fine on it. and even stranger, it works if a timer is involved |
| 02:47.43 | DeadZergling | but otherwise, nope |
| 02:48.12 | JademusSreg | Are you using the blend field of the Set Height? |
| 02:48.34 | DeadZergling | for the initial? no, I don't want it to blend, I just want it lower |
| 02:49.22 | JademusSreg | Also, worth pointing out is that unit height if set from the unit tab is a synchronous value, whereas height modified by actors is asynchronous, which is why I encourage the unit data have the height it should when it finishes its movement. |
| 02:49.30 | DeadZergling | doesn't even seem to have a blend field, for that matter |
| 02:49.44 | JademusSreg | Oh, in that case, use the Transition feature. =D |
| 02:50.29 | DeadZergling | < has not used morph or transition, at all |
| 02:51.14 | JademusSreg | Alright. I can explain actor transitions briefly. Can't provide a step-by-step atm. |
| 02:51.46 | Dustin|Work | I used Triggers and modify unit |
| 02:52.33 | JademusSreg | Basically, a transition allows you to blend between props, especially those without blend fields. It sends a message for values across a time defined by a curve. |
| 02:53.31 | JademusSreg | And it conveniently has a wysiwyg bezier/anchored curve editor control, much like photoshop/adobe shit. |
| 02:55.20 | DeadZergling | sure we are talking about the same transition here? The one I see has a blank target field, duration, and range only |
| 02:57.25 | JademusSreg | Suppose a step-by-step will be necessary when I have the time. =D |
| 02:57.38 | JademusSreg | Though you'll likely figure out the problem before that happens. |
| 02:58.41 | DeadZergling | well, I know ways to solve it |
| 02:58.47 | DeadZergling | but I'm not overly happy with them |
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| 02:59.29 | DeadZergling | it seems ridiculous to have to make a separate death actor when all that is really needed is a boosted death model |
| 02:59.48 | draktok | sup gays :D |
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| 04:15.45 | DeadZergling | welp, lame solution installed, still not at all happy with it, even if it does look better than the original |
| 04:25.18 | Bounty | Well, I lied DeadZergling |
| 04:25.23 | Bounty | I kept working on it |
| 04:25.23 | Bounty | lol |
| 04:25.32 | Bounty | https://www.dropbox.com/s/bjgtj9i5vy15q91/Screenshot%202015-05-31%2000.24.38.png?dl=0 |
| 04:25.35 | Bounty | I think you'll like it |
| 04:25.36 | Bounty | =P |
| 04:27.21 | DeadZergling | seems the zergling dissapeared |
| 04:30.13 | Bounty | Of course it did :) |
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| 04:33.21 | DeadZergling | was the overall goal so no one knows what is going on? |
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| 05:13.08 | Bounty | Think this is over the top DeadZergling? |
| 05:13.09 | Bounty | https://www.dropbox.com/s/ac10pkyb0by9bcc/Water%20Trail.gif?dl=0 |
| 05:20.14 | DeadZergling | dunno, not seeing anything |
| 05:20.55 | Bounty | might take a bit to load |
| 05:21.34 | DeadZergling | really, a 51 meg gif file? |
| 05:22.27 | Bounty | lol |
| 05:22.56 | DeadZergling | It would be fine for single player |
| 05:23.18 | DeadZergling | but that could clog vision multiplayer, setting a lower opacity probably help a lot |
| 05:24.12 | DeadZergling | those models look very familiar btw, wow water elemental and fire medium? |
| 05:25.18 | Bounty | watersplashlight |
| 05:25.20 | Bounty | :) |
| 05:25.27 | Bounty | Only a shit load of them |
| 05:25.35 | Bounty | they look very nice stacked |
| 05:25.59 | Bounty | but yeah I think I'll save the big waves for sprints |
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| 07:36.41 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 07:50.26 | draktok | hello alll |
| 08:20.12 | JademusSreg | I must have been on haitus when this happened, but I just noticed a change in the footprint pathing resolution in the terrain editor. |
| 08:20.21 | JademusSreg | Also, hallo drak. |
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| 11:46.44 | Bounty | peow |
| 13:05.14 | Bounty | What is the equaution for a "reflection" effect between two units |
| 13:05.19 | Bounty | with 1 unit being the reflector and the other being the reflected |
| 13:05.24 | Bounty | If the only data I have is their facing angles |
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| 17:57.47 | JademusSreg | If anyone's interested, here's a purple footprint (appears purple in the terrain editor with Pathing > Show Mesh; appears double-dark grey in the footprint editor): https://pastee.org/tajnf |
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| 20:57.07 | Bounty | Behold awesomeness https://www.dropbox.com/s/8m2r05mg8bd4yfy/Water%20Globe%20Bounce.gif?dl=0 |
| 20:58.55 | Nytemare3701 | What the hell man, that's an 80mb gif. |
| 20:59.09 | Nytemare3701 | Gifycat that or something. |
| 20:59.39 | Bounty | You cannot compress awesomeness bro |
| 20:59.43 | Bounty | =P |
| 20:59.56 | Nytemare3701 | Just started doing it. |
| 21:00.08 | Nytemare3701 | I'll post the link in a minute. |
| 21:02.30 | Nytemare3701 | http://gfycat.com/RewardingTintedGlobefish |
| 21:05.11 | Bounty | Its not a tinted globe |
| 21:05.24 | Bounty | Can't really see the texture details in the GIF I suppose. |
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| 22:29.13 | DeadZergling | that was a lot better Nytemare3701 |
| 22:29.46 | DeadZergling | Bounty, you are no longer allowed to post gif links without Nytemare3701's help |
| 22:30.02 | Nytemare3701 | lol |
| 22:30.19 | Nytemare3701 | Honestly, we could use a bot that does it automatically for all gif links. |
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| 23:08.25 | Bounty | First footage DeadZergling and JademusSreg |
| 23:08.25 | Bounty | https://www.dropbox.com/s/1r3jw7ts0f2xzxs/Bounty%20Project%20Footage%2001.mp4?dl=0 |
| 23:08.39 | JademusSreg | 1 minute remaining. |
| 23:18.42 | DeadZergling | kinda reminds me of punky skunk |
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