| 00:06.15 | Dustin|Work | YOU ARE SO IDIOT! |
| 00:08.38 | DeadZergling | yea, I know |
| 01:17.42 | DeadZergling | I should consider coining that phrase Dustin|Work |
| 01:20.04 | Dustin|Work | Totally should |
| 01:20.47 | DeadZergling | can see a little sketch, guy meets you for the first time, stretches his hand out, and then... |
| 01:20.51 | DeadZergling | YOU ARE SO IDIOT! |
| 01:28.45 | DeadZergling | hrrrmm, looking at logic can be a dangerous thing when tired |
| 01:29.05 | DeadZergling | took me all too long realize I shouldn't be unequipping items that are already removed. |
| 01:29.35 | DeadZergling | oh well, just how it goes when you are SO IDIOT |
| 01:31.02 | Dustin|Work | lol |
| 01:31.34 | DeadZergling | having to redo my inventory stuff, again. It turns out my amazing solution has a flaw, it forgets to save properly in the bank file |
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| 08:02.17 | DeadZergling | well it is clear to me now, I expect my users to be far smarter than they actually are |
| 08:03.04 | DeadZergling | or my menus/options aren't very intuitive to some, might be more accurate |
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| 10:59.58 | Goa_ | A1win yay, worked about 2-3 hours on making a nice line rendered with mesh and when I had an okey looking one, I figured out it would be better to just use sprites and make them flash and that way they look cool much more cool than any line and they probably more performance efficient anyway. |
| 13:20.31 | A1win | :x |
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| 19:09.06 | duckies | Pound it DZ |
| 19:09.28 | DeadZergling | yea, so glad 'that' review is the one everyone 1 uped |
| 19:09.41 | DeadZergling | would have preferred the thumbs up one |
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| 19:09.56 | DeadZergling | that one makes it sound like I should masturbate over my map every day |
| 19:10.16 | duckies | That was my first impression too |
| 19:10.30 | duckies | but apperently it's just an upgraded variant of highfife |
| 19:10.43 | DeadZergling | is a fist bump, bro fist |
| 19:10.46 | DeadZergling | something like that |
| 19:11.31 | DeadZergling | should find me a good duck model to import duckies, you can make an appearance in the water area |
| 19:12.04 | duckies | I'm just mentioning cause pound it would be a more spirited contribution than putting retards into spotlight in necroed mapsters thread (I'm being mean again :() |
| 19:12.27 | duckies | no zolden, no models |
| 19:12.28 | duckies | :< |
| 19:15.05 | DeadZergling | apparently the guild FK2 is dedicated to leaving useless one star reviews on games |
| 19:16.00 | duckies | people with common values tend to band together ;/ |
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| 19:21.38 | DeadZergling | yea, a clan dedicated to shitting/trolling work |
| 19:21.44 | DeadZergling | great bunch of people |
| 19:38.46 | DeadZergling | so, come up with an ETA for your map yet duckies ? |
| 19:39.35 | duckies | ETA march 1 2015 |
| 19:39.46 | duckies | you can guess how well that went :3 |
| 19:40.53 | DeadZergling | lol :) |
| 19:41.17 | DeadZergling | hey, a korean review put in english subtitles for me |
| 19:42.04 | duckies | how thoughtful of him :0 |
| 19:42.09 | duckies | what did he say |
| 19:42.29 | DeadZergling | oh, that he dislikes where the checkpoint is since it is right between the boss/regular area |
| 19:42.37 | DeadZergling | and that the map is too hard for 1 player only |
| 19:42.57 | DeadZergling | in other words, a confession that not all Koreans are uber gamers |
| 19:43.48 | DeadZergling | I'm mostly surprised the complaint is about single player mostly, I test the crap out of my games for single player, lol |
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| 19:46.35 | duckies | maybe he was fake korean? :o |
| 19:47.49 | duckies | btw DZ |
| 19:48.23 | duckies | if you ever feel like taking a break from mapmaking you can ping me for map playtest |
| 19:51.27 | duckies | you're probably on work now tho |
| 20:02.10 | DeadZergling | I see you edited Zolden's post a little ArcanePariah |
| 20:02.20 | DeadZergling | oh no, he was real Korean |
| 20:02.27 | DeadZergling | the English wasn't good enough to be fake |
| 20:03.44 | DeadZergling | and yes, I'm at work right now duckies, so good gameplay isn't what I can do atm |
| 20:12.53 | duckies | maybe tomorrow :0 |
| 20:12.53 | duckies | or any other weekend days |
| 20:12.53 | DeadZergling | maybe, is 1 pm for me now, what time for you, and what time you on tomorrow? |
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| 20:13.14 | duckies | 2300 for me |
| 20:13.45 | ArcanePariah|Sch | Hallo duckies |
| 20:15.26 | ArcanePariah|Sch | So... lots of fun toys coming in Void/Storm |
| 20:15.30 | duckies | may halo be with you ! |
| 20:16.13 | ArcanePariah|Sch | Working on it, but God doesn't do many sales... something about 100% discount for the dead? |
| 20:16.22 | ArcanePariah|Sch | Gotta read the fine print |
| 20:16.48 | duckies | :3 |
| 20:17.04 | duckies | tell me more about tooooooys |
| 20:17.29 | DeadZergling | ArcanePariah|Sch, have fun editing Zolden's reply a bit? |
| 20:17.38 | ArcanePariah|Sch | A bit :D |
| 20:18.16 | ArcanePariah|Sch | At least you get paid reasonably for getting screamed out by psychotic people there. |
| 20:18.21 | ArcanePariah|Sch | at* |
| 20:18.33 | ArcanePariah|Sch | Well duckies, lots of new data fieds |
| 20:19.02 | DeadZergling | the 1 stars are annoying, but anyone who reads those will think nothing of them |
| 20:19.08 | ArcanePariah|Sch | All effects that can do AoE (Damage, Search, Create Persistent) can do rectangular or circles |
| 20:19.15 | ArcanePariah|Sch | ALso, they all can do reveals |
| 20:19.24 | ArcanePariah|Sch | ie radar/unfog/detect |
| 20:19.32 | ArcanePariah|Sch | Create persistent can do arcs |
| 20:19.46 | ArcanePariah|Sch | Damage response now has validators |
| 20:20.16 | ArcanePariah|Sch | Launch missile effects have periodics built in (period count, period, and periodic effect). |
| 20:20.27 | ArcanePariah|Sch | So no longer need a behavior or persistent on the missile |
| 20:20.58 | ArcanePariah|Sch | Modify player effects can modify 2 very important things now: Upgrades and other effects |
| 20:21.13 | ArcanePariah|Sch | So you can have an effect that applies upgrades |
| 20:21.31 | ArcanePariah|Sch | Most importantly there is a modify effect effect |
| 20:21.40 | ArcanePariah|Sch | (Cue effectception) |
| 20:22.08 | ArcanePariah|Sch | So for instance you can have an effect that modifes another damage effect and changes its damage |
| 20:23.22 | ArcanePariah|Sch | Even more powerfully, it can modify set effects. So the folowing is possible: Set Effect tha runs Effect A, and Modify Effect A. the modify effect changes the set effect to run Effect B and modify effect B. Modify effect B can then change the same set effect back to the original setup |
| 20:23.37 | ArcanePariah|Sch | So you can now how effects that rotate among other effects |
| 20:23.41 | ArcanePariah|Sch | On each usage |
| 20:24.12 | ArcanePariah|Sch | Which is... well... will make things interseresting |
| 20:24.28 | DeadZergling | oh but using hacky dummy effects to call triggers to do all that was so fun |
| 20:24.42 | ArcanePariah|Sch | One could make an effect that does one thing, but when it hits a specific target, change it to do something else entirely |
| 20:25.39 | ArcanePariah|Sch | Theoretically with modify player effects (to change upgrades) and modify effects and validators, one can build a fairly complex mutating ability |
| 20:26.46 | ArcanePariah|Sch | What can get really fun is have multiple modify effects that modify the same effect but place them all in a set effect and do them randomly. Or better yet, an effect that modifes OTHER players effects. |
| 20:27.35 | ArcanePariah|Sch | In any case, I think it will open possiblities |
| 20:27.39 | DeadZergling | does it alter the effect for just that instance then? |
| 20:28.16 | ArcanePariah|Sch | Yes, think of it is a data version of catalog write |
| 20:28.40 | ArcanePariah|Sch | It still can do add/substract/etc, to modify other fields |
| 20:29.09 | ArcanePariah|Sch | I was mostly examing the lunacy possibly by altering set effects, including the one earlier in the same effect tree |
| 20:30.59 | ArcanePariah|Sch | The main place I've seen this used in Heroes of the Storm is with Azmodan, who has an ability that does damage, and its damage increases by 2 for each enemy it kills |
| 20:31.27 | ArcanePariah|Sch | In his case, it applys a behavior to units hit with it, and that has a death response |
| 20:31.36 | ArcanePariah|Sch | That does the modify |
| 20:31.53 | duckies | that is very cool! |
| 20:32.43 | ArcanePariah|Sch | Also, and this is not entirely understood, but apparently units now have an effect history associated with them |
| 20:33.26 | ArcanePariah|Sch | So you can query effects ever done to a unit. In data there is a field for this as well, almost as if you can now have effects hit units related to effects that hit that unit earlier. |
| 20:34.21 | ArcanePariah|Sch | Like, you could (theoretically) design an ablity that does some effect to every unit that ever damaged the caster with a specific damage effect. |
| 20:35.14 | ArcanePariah|Sch | But yeah, it opens somewhat mind bending possiblities. |
| 20:36.03 | ArcanePariah|Sch | At some point when I have time, I'll post my finding on SC2mapster |
| 20:37.02 | ArcanePariah|Sch | All of this was learned from the Void beta, because although we don't have the editor, the beta included the XML file that controls the editor layout (what fields belong to which data type, which catagory a data type goes to, etc.) |
| 20:37.52 | ArcanePariah|Sch | THe editor categories are getting somewhat reshuffled and better organized, and there are a few more data types. Errors and Sound Exclusivity I remember |
| 20:39.40 | DeadZergling | catalog write, that makes it sound more permanent, ArcanePariah|Sch |
| 20:40.20 | ArcanePariah|Sch | Yes, it is not appear for just that instance, it modifies it permanently |
| 20:41.29 | ArcanePariah|Sch | Using my example from earlier, unit has a damage effect that also applies a behavior to a unit (with a tiny duration) and a death response effect that modifies that same damage effect. SO every unit he kills with that ability will increase it damage |
| 21:05.01 | Repo | New asset: Heroes of The Storm Starcraft Assets - http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/heroes-storm-starcraft-assets/ |
| 21:40.45 | A1win | http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/unity/np/gif/np00034.gif |
| 22:27.10 | DeadZergling | is that guy hugging the wall, or following you A1win ? I can't tell from the gif |
| 22:28.01 | A1win | it doesn't know how to slow down at curves ;p |
| 22:28.18 | DeadZergling | is a problem isn't it |
| 22:28.19 | A1win | Oh right |
| 22:28.28 | A1win | Yeah it's following me |
| 22:28.34 | DeadZergling | sometimes my snake guys will do circles around contestants and get stuck in a loop |
| 22:29.30 | DeadZergling | likely the same problem |
| 22:29.41 | A1win | It's just simple A* atm, need to tweak it a lot before it'll work nicely |
| 22:29.49 | DeadZergling | I could maybe adjust their turn rate when the contestant is a bigger angle away from them |
| 22:30.18 | DeadZergling | that might make a good difference, could adjust it to be almost non existent at smaller values so you can play toro with them as intended |
| 22:30.23 | DeadZergling | thanks for the idea A1win , lol |
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| 22:32.25 | DeadZergling | well you know, starting some weird chain of thought that made me think of a solution to 2 problems I been having |
| 22:51.28 | DeadZergling | and it was quiet once again, duckies, what time will you be back on, your time? |
| 22:53.15 | DeadZergling | like 1000, 1100? |
| 22:58.21 | DeadZergling | must be ducking around on SC2 |
| 23:07.48 | duckies | I dunno |
| 23:08.03 | duckies | I might have pretty exausting weekend this time |
| 23:08.05 | duckies | but yea |
| 23:08.08 | DeadZergling | it seems like it might be 1100, as I often see you on around 1 am my time |
| 23:08.11 | duckies | around 21:00 |
| 23:08.27 | duckies | probably |
| 23:08.48 | DeadZergling | is up to you, just saying when I am most likely to be on |
| 23:08.57 | DeadZergling | and you know, be able to play in real time |
| 23:17.18 | DeadZergling | it occurs to me that I should post a private map using the name I want for my RPG, before a troll takes it, lol |
| 23:18.50 | DeadZergling | see, I can make use of even the trolliest of comments |
