| 00:02.51 | electricprism | DeadZergling: Indeed, it's a sad reality, my girl's like why would you make games for SC2 when you dont own any rights and its so hard to do anything in the editor |
| 00:02.59 | electricprism | Galaxy is a hog |
| 00:30.25 | Bounty | How come my drag selection in the editor is tilted? |
| 00:30.29 | Bounty | How do you fix that again? |
| 00:33.17 | electricprism | drag? |
| 00:33.29 | Bounty | yes, the drag selection is tilted |
| 00:33.39 | Bounty | https://www.dropbox.com/s/l5mouwirg61hcz3/Screenshot%202015-05-01%2020.32.30.png?dl=0 |
| 00:34.05 | A1win | Probably some hotkey that changes it |
| 00:34.16 | A1win | Hotkeys are listed somewhere, should find it there |
| 00:35.04 | Bounty | I don't think all hotkeys have ever been documented? |
| 00:35.32 | A1win | They are all listed in the editor hotkey menu. |
| 00:35.41 | A1win | And you can even change them there. |
| 00:36.02 | Bounty | There is a hotkey menu? lol |
| 00:36.02 | Bounty | where |
| 00:36.12 | Bounty | nvm |
| 00:36.14 | Bounty | derp moment |
| 00:36.16 | A1win | Haha |
| 00:38.04 | Bounty | thankd A1win |
| 00:38.07 | Bounty | its Ctrl + D |
| 00:38.28 | Bounty | <3 |
| 00:38.36 | electricprism | I bought a SSD thinking it would increase SC2 Editor load time, lol was i dumb |
| 00:38.46 | electricprism | Maps still load at like 42 seconds |
| 00:39.08 | electricprism | Then testing the doc to debug a simple change takes another 3 minuets lol |
| 00:39.25 | A1win | Sounds like your CPU is bottlenecking |
| 00:41.34 | A1win | http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/unity/np/np00025.jpg woo made the floor darker, made even the bullet trails look better |
| 00:42.02 | A1win | 40% luminosity on floor |
| 00:42.25 | Dustin|Work | Send me the game A1win I wanna play it |
| 00:42.33 | Dustin|Work | :D |
| 00:42.39 | A1win | Not much to play |
| 00:42.47 | A1win | enemies don't do anything yet |
| 00:42.53 | Dustin|Work | Runnin around shootin blobs in the face! |
| 00:42.54 | Dustin|Work | lol |
| 00:43.09 | A1win | And there's only one enemy anyway, haha. Manually placed. |
| 00:43.27 | A1win | It doesn't even move. |
| 00:43.32 | Dustin|Work | IS the room static or dynamically generated? |
| 00:43.55 | A1win | Dynamically created, but same way every time (so I know I won't end up inside walls while testing) |
| 00:44.05 | Dustin|Work | Ah nice, seeded |
| 00:44.12 | Dustin|Work | Looking cool so far! |
| 00:44.17 | A1win | Well that's not the point, it's just for testing |
| 00:44.22 | A1win | The final thing can be fully randomized |
| 00:44.53 | A1win | Going to work on some map generation next, at least so it can have start and finish. |
| 00:45.01 | A1win | So I can start implementing my game loop |
| 00:45.22 | A1win | After that, probably AI |
| 00:45.33 | A1win | At least so that enemies can shoot back. |
| 00:45.33 | Dustin|Work | Yiss, A* is fun |
| 00:45.50 | Dustin|Work | Yeah shooting would be easier to start with lol |
| 00:46.17 | A1win | I need to generate pathing grids too since tiles are smaller than enemies |
| 00:46.23 | A1win | But that should be pretty easy |
| 00:46.28 | A1win | Since it's already grid based |
| 00:46.38 | A1win | Just need to check for space at every node |
| 00:46.46 | A1win | Do a kind of a flood fill on it |
| 00:47.46 | A1win | Well not flood fill, but go through every tile anyway |
| 00:48.35 | A1win | Thinking of making a threaded level generator that can run in the background while playing, so next level will be ready before getting to the end |
| 00:48.42 | A1win | But that can be done much later. |
| 00:49.09 | A1win | I already did threaded mesh generation for another project so it should be pretty similar. |
| 00:49.36 | A1win | This project feels so easy after spending like half a year on 3D procedurally generated cave meshes, hehe |
| 00:49.52 | A1win | Got more gameplay done in 5 days for this than in 5 months for the 3D game. |
| 00:50.20 | A1win | (since I spent that time finetuning the procedural generation, and it still doesn't have much else than that) |
| 00:50.35 | Dustin|Work | Oh I bet lol |
| 00:51.06 | A1win | At least I can do this really well. Which is good. |
| 00:52.19 | A1win | I've also learned a lot of code optimization from this project already. |
| 00:52.55 | A1win | Updating a 128x128 pixel texture on every update (an area of the terrain around the player), so everything about it needs to be really efficient |
| 00:53.31 | A1win | The texture moves along with the player, just snaps to 1 tile coordinates, and then shifts the pixels accordingly so the player doesn't see the movement. |
| 00:53.54 | A1win | http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/unity/np/gif/np00014.gif |
| 00:54.19 | A1win | (that white box is camera view frustum) |
| 00:54.42 | Dustin|Work | Oh that's nifty |
| 00:55.32 | A1win | Much better than a chunk system, since I can always update the same number of tiles |
| 00:56.04 | A1win | A chunk system would only be as good if the chunks were 1 pixel in size, which would need 128x128 sprites :x |
| 00:56.25 | A1win | Or a bit less since it wouldn't have to be as big |
| 00:57.04 | A1win | Or actually it probably does because the fog needs to finish animating before it gets cut out of the rendered area |
| 00:57.05 | electricprism | Yeah maybe I have a i7 940 |
| 00:57.16 | electricprism | Its just sad that its not enough for the damn hog |
| 00:57.25 | A1win | Are your files on the SSD too or just the editor? |
| 00:57.32 | electricprism | both |
| 00:58.12 | A1win | RAM speed might also be a factor |
| 00:58.15 | A1win | dunno |
| 01:00.12 | electricprism | possibly mine is 1600 DDR3 |
| 01:00.42 | A1win | and of course it also depends on the map |
| 01:00.53 | A1win | and what dependencies you use for it |
| 01:01.16 | electricprism | swarm campaign |
| 01:01.23 | electricprism | thats rly all |
| 01:01.55 | A1win | I mean it depends on how much stuff you have in it. I can't really tell how exactly it affects... just saying. |
| 01:03.58 | electricprism | ya mayby |
| 01:04.01 | electricprism | brb |
| 01:06.06 | Bounty | Are footprints bugged? |
| 01:06.11 | Bounty | If I apply my custom made footprint to a unit, it does not work. If I copy and paste all of the data from my footprint to a pre existing one, it works. |
| 01:07.26 | Dustin|Work | They were broke forawhile but they got fixed |
| 01:07.31 | Dustin|Work | Maybe they broke them again |
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| 01:10.36 | Bounty | Fucking figures Dustin.... |
| 01:15.01 | DeadZergling | able to focus today Bounty ? |
| 01:15.14 | Bounty | I was, until all this shit |
| 01:15.15 | Bounty | lol |
| 01:15.19 | Bounty | always something. |
| 01:15.44 | DeadZergling | indeed, I just got a couple things left to do before I post my train wreck to the arcade |
| 01:15.56 | DeadZergling | but more shit keeps popping up |
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| 09:06.08 | Goa_ | duckies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFxLbYsmSpI |
| 09:27.11 | duckies | .-. |
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| 10:53.36 | DeadZergling | 4 am, half dead from being tired, fantastic time to come up with death messages for 20 some monsters in a hurry... |
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| 14:46.42 | DeadZergling | well duckies, about to publish my train wreck, see how this bites me in the ass |
| 14:50.27 | DeadZergling | I see I fucked up game variants, again |
| 14:51.18 | DeadZergling | and another mysterious non existent loading screen, hurray |
| 15:14.19 | DeadZergling | how is it I always manage to get a non existent loading screen |
| 15:47.19 | A1win | What do you mean? |
| 15:47.23 | A1win | Loading screen doesn't show up? |
| 15:48.20 | A1win | If you use the loading screen graphic elsewhere in your map, it sometimes disappears during loading screen. Fix is to have two copies of it and use one of them only as the loading screen image. |
| 15:53.51 | A1win | Probably even just a reference to the loading screen image anywhere but in the loading screen field is enough to break it. |
| 15:56.58 | A1win | My bullets use travel time now instead of instantly hitting when gun is fired, and the trail graphics accurately show where the bullet is: http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/unity/np/np00027.gif |
| 15:57.56 | DeadZergling | aye, me using it somewhere else was the problem, A1win |
| 15:58.08 | DeadZergling | I somehow forgot about that again, but remembered half an hour ago, lol |
| 15:58.12 | A1win | hehe |
| 15:58.26 | DeadZergling | is just so stupid |
| 16:00.20 | DeadZergling | that looks pretty nice A1win |
| 16:00.35 | DeadZergling | anyways, the sun is up, has been an hour or two, I need sleep, be around later :) |
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| 17:09.23 | Goa_ | niiiice A1win |
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| 20:33.26 | Bounty | Surprised this thread is still going http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/general/general-chat/77917-steam-have-now-steamworkshop-pay-for-mods-when-blizzard/?page=2#p25 |
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| 21:32.17 | duckies | hey dz |
| 21:32.26 | duckies | you published map with hidden lobby .-. |
| 21:33.16 | Dustin|Work | Hidden Lobbys are terribad! |
| 21:33.30 | Bounty | DeadZergling, you should try this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GWSJ9WE/ref=s9_simh_gw_p325_d1_i3?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=desktop-1&pf_rd_r=1E2VXEFPXP5QG87ZA606&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=2079475242&pf_rd_i=desktop |
| 21:33.42 | Bounty | They work lol |
| 21:33.54 | DeadZergling | you on those again I take it? |
| 21:34.57 | Bounty | Trying it now |
| 21:35.07 | Bounty | To lower my dose of klonopin |
| 21:35.26 | DeadZergling | I finally published my train wreck of an RPG earlier today |
| 21:35.35 | Bounty | what!? |
| 21:35.39 | Bounty | You finished it? |
| 21:35.53 | Bounty | The Duke Nukem forever of your projects? |
| 21:35.56 | DeadZergling | no, but if I wait that long might be no players left, lol |
| 21:36.11 | Bounty | Will be a surge of players with LoTV |
| 21:37.33 | DeadZergling | by the way, do you know a good container for storing messages that keeps going. I'm thinking label, but know something else might be better |
| 21:37.49 | Bounty | What do you mean? What are you trying to do? |
| 21:38.10 | Bounty | Storing text in a variable? I would just use a text variable array |
| 21:38.48 | DeadZergling | well, what I mean is for death messages |
| 21:39.24 | DeadZergling | currently they are getting displayed in the middle of the screen, which is fine for single player, but if you in a game with multiple players, it becomes a real problem |
| 21:40.03 | Dustin|Work | Just use a String Array for each one and prune the entry after its displayed then you can jsut output the strings wherever you want |
| 21:40.33 | Bounty | So you need to store position? |
| 21:40.47 | DeadZergling | but would a label be the best way to display it all Dustin|Work ? |
| 21:40.55 | DeadZergling | or is there a better container |
| 21:40.58 | Bounty | Have a variable array of 2 2 |
| 21:41.07 | Bounty | the first being the X and Y |
| 21:41.09 | Dustin|Work | DeadZergling, you could do a list box |
| 21:41.16 | Bounty | and the other being the two iterations |
| 21:41.18 | Bounty | aka |
| 21:41.20 | Dustin|Work | With each message being an entry, really depends on how you wnt it displayed |
| 21:41.21 | Bounty | if its 1 player |
| 21:41.28 | Bounty | use this X and Y offset |
| 21:41.33 | Bounty | if its more, use the other |
| 21:41.38 | DeadZergling | basically I want it bottom loading, showing the last 6-8 messages |
| 21:41.45 | DeadZergling | without cluttering the screen up too much |
| 21:42.14 | Dustin|Work | I would use a list box and have each death message be an entry, then jsut remove the oldest listbox elements |
| 21:42.29 | DeadZergling | well that is surprising, my RPG has 3 reviews already |
| 21:42.36 | Dustin|Work | Otherwise you'll have to have a label per message or have some other way to manage and store their positions relative to other messages |
| 21:42.39 | ArcanePariah | You will want a messagedisplay UI element, they are the ones that do auto |
| 21:42.50 | Dustin|Work | Or that ^ |
| 21:43.13 | DeadZergling | possibly Dustin|Work , I want hiding said box to also be an option |
| 21:43.24 | Dustin|Work | Yeah you can hide almost any dialog item |
| 21:43.32 | DeadZergling | and my last little trip down UI via the UI editor lane didn't go so good, lol |
| 21:43.37 | Dustin|Work | lol |
| 21:43.42 | Bounty | DeadZergling, so you want your own little chat box basically? |
| 21:43.49 | Bounty | that scrolls and fades old messages |
| 21:43.58 | DeadZergling | kind of Bounty , but it will only be for death messages |
| 21:44.04 | DeadZergling | the rest of chat will be left alone |
| 21:44.07 | Bounty | Easy |
| 21:44.15 | Bounty | I can make it for you if you like. |
| 21:44.25 | Bounty | or explain it to you for you to make |
| 21:44.45 | DeadZergling | yea, i read about that duckies , I'm going to try to fix that now |
| 21:45.45 | DeadZergling | well if you offering Bounty , I won't turn that down |
| 21:46.06 | Bounty | do you want me to explain it or make it? |
| 21:46.09 | DeadZergling | Want it to show about 6-10 messages, the newest death always on the bottom |
| 21:46.23 | DeadZergling | make it, I just spent 12 hours last night forcing this out to a publishable state |
| 21:46.24 | Bounty | its going to be trigger based if thats ok? |
| 21:46.33 | Bounty | and how are the death messages stored? global? |
| 21:46.33 | DeadZergling | I'm in no mood for shit, lol |
| 21:46.44 | Bounty | like, are there diff death message for diff events |
| 21:46.52 | DeadZergling | Global string is fine, the text is auto generated |
| 21:47.02 | Bounty | kk |
| 21:47.06 | DeadZergling | I already have a full set of functions for that |
| 21:47.08 | DeadZergling | is monster based |
| 21:47.13 | Bounty | I'll make a mockup of the code and you can take it from there :) |
| 21:47.19 | Bounty | bc I don't feel like dealing with offsets |
| 21:47.22 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:47.50 | DeadZergling | aye, that is fine, offsets/sizing is something I'll have to deal with |
| 21:49.57 | DeadZergling | duckies: what is the problem with hiding Battle.net lobby, out of curiosity. |
| 21:51.12 | duckies | dz, cause when joining from pub list you can't see the lobby |
| 21:51.20 | duckies | can't communicate with other people |
| 21:51.35 | DeadZergling | oh, that is bad |
| 21:51.42 | duckies | and whit that, chances are you'll just sit there 30 minutes staring at "enerring lobby" |
| 21:51.51 | DeadZergling | i'll publish one the other way in the next 10 mins |
| 21:51.53 | duckies | but nobody in their mind would do that |
| 21:51.56 | duckies | ah, k |
| 21:52.37 | DeadZergling | I like how some guy posted tips in a review already |
| 21:52.41 | DeadZergling | all of the tips wrong |
| 21:54.02 | DeadZergling | but still funny |
| 21:55.30 | DeadZergling | if this continues, I should plug my other map in this one. I wasn't expecting it to get played that fast |
| 22:00.48 | Bounty | DeadZergling |
| 22:00.48 | Bounty | http://peeeq.de/gui.php?id=3614 |
| 22:01.01 | Bounty | there are two global variables |
| 22:01.12 | Bounty | Message Count = Integer |
| 22:01.26 | Bounty | Message = Dialog Item with array of whatever you want |
| 22:01.30 | Bounty | should work |
| 22:11.14 | DeadZergling | so I don't get it, how does it show them in a row with all of the elements getting moved to the exact same spot? |
| 22:12.58 | Dustin|Work | He didnt put the offsets in |
| 22:13.05 | Dustin|Work | Thats what he was talking about earlier |
| 22:13.33 | Dustin|Work | <Bounty> I'll make a mockup of the code and you can take it from there :) |
| 22:13.33 | Dustin|Work | <Bounty> bc I don't feel like dealing with offsets |
| 22:14.49 | DeadZergling | Oh I see, more tired than I thought I was apparently |
| 22:17.12 | Dustin|Work | hehe |
| 22:19.01 | DeadZergling | so what im now going to do is paste some of this chat and that link for when I'm more awake |
| 22:34.07 | DeadZergling | thank you by the way Bounty, gives me something to start from anywho |
| 22:36.43 | DeadZergling | knowing me, I'll have some obscure issue later |
| 22:38.07 | DeadZergling | by the way, is there even a reason to publish to anywhere but America/Europe, do the other ones get any hits? |
| 22:49.01 | DeadZergling | anywho, I added it to europe servers now duckies if you prefer the latency over there |
| 23:22.37 | Bounty | You'll want to workout the offsets yourself DeadZergling |
| 23:23.13 | Bounty | What always works for me is setting the very bottom one first and then just have the others height adjusted by the height of the label |
| 23:23.27 | Bounty | So if the label's Y is 50, adjust each by 50 higher |
| 23:43.36 | duckies | ty dz, tho 90% of time I hang out on NA anyway |
| 23:46.27 | DeadZergling | oh by the way duckies , I know you are gifted at breaking my maps, but try not to over exert yourself |
| 23:47.02 | duckies | Okaaaaaaay~ |
| 23:51.28 | Dustin|Work | Duckies breaks all the maps! |
