IRC log for #sc2mapster on 20150429

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11:29.24ZoldenGoa_ I pressed Leaderboard, it tried to do soething, then stopped trying
11:34.15Goa_?
11:34.25Goa_hmm
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11:38.10Goafuck my isp
11:38.28Goaso Zolden
11:38.31Goawhat is happening
11:38.44Goayou only see ... or there is the circle loading stuff?
11:38.58Goaactually
11:39.04Goasomeone managed to use it
11:43.20ZoldenGoa_ it was like Leaderboard -> Leaderboard. -> Leaderboard.. -> Leaderboard... -> Leaderboard
11:43.27Zoldenno circles
11:43.35Goa_do you have internet connection?:)
11:44.04Zoldenyes, I did it right after I updated it
11:44.39Goa_thats wierd
11:44.55Goa_you have google play account I guess
11:45.54Goa_ehh
11:46.05Goa_it works for me even without internet connectioN:D
11:46.31Goa_it says though, cant connect server try it later,
11:51.57Zoldenyes, I have, dominations uses it
11:52.15Goa_hmm
11:52.19Goa_try it again
11:52.23Goa_it should be working
11:53.51Zoldenok , now it worked
11:54.18Goa_ehh
11:54.44Zoldenwow, interface of that leaderboard thing is so ugly
11:54.56ZoldenI can't even find what to click to see the whole list
11:55.10Goa_you need to swipe that shit
11:55.12ZoldenI should have expected something gay like that after trying google+
11:55.18Goa_:D
11:56.02Zoldenwhat else did your artist draw
11:56.10anarchgood morning
11:57.06Zoldenheygh
11:58.10anarchhey zolden
11:58.18Goa_my artist working with particle systems: http://pasteboard.co/5qWngU2.png
11:59.19Goa_also my artist need to find an overall theme fast
12:01.46Zoldenyour image doesn't load
12:01.51Zoldenuse imgur
12:02.28Goa_pff
12:02.35Goa_pastboard is da best
12:02.42Goa_use better browser
12:02.46Goa_that can open it:D
12:03.01Goa_https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/5qWngU2.png
12:03.22Goa_(actually I was linking wrong link:D)
12:03.52Zoldenwrong again
12:06.40ZoldenGoa_ just draw as you like, it will be your style
12:06.51Zoldengoing style -> drawing is a corrupted approach for gay people
12:11.08Goa_It seems you can change that leaderboard or you have to make one from scratch...
12:11.43ZoldenI'd prefer a separate server with in-game interface
12:12.38anarchhttp://i.imgur.com/DIy2ep0.png
12:15.01Goa_:)
12:15.09Goa_Bender rulz
12:17.27anarchyep
12:17.44anarchhttp://i.imgur.com/yZ8C1C0.jpg
12:17.46anarchwtf o_o
12:18.58anarchhttp://i.imgur.com/rT5iCil.gifv LMFAO
12:19.23Zoldennice punch
12:19.27Goa_rofl these google guys: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOn64iqlphk
13:00.59ZoldenGoa_ cats > dogs http://i.imgur.com/tnMA7mG.gifv
13:02.29Goa_yeah
13:02.36Goa_good luck with getting a cat like that.D
13:03.12Zolden;/
13:05.02Goa_I cant figure out a nice theme for my TD
13:06.09Zoldenyour art is the theme
13:06.35Goa_then what art should my plane/background have?
13:06.58Zoldenstart with black sheet
13:07.23Goa_yeah
13:07.28Zoldengameplay > visuals
13:07.29Goa_thats what I have now
13:07.36Goa_still
13:07.46Zoldenmake a game, then think of backfuckingground
13:08.00Goa_it would be nice to have something to start with, cause then I can adjust the visuals to that to look better
13:08.02Zoldenthough, style could give you ideas about towers
13:08.12Goa_like on a blacksheet you have no need for shadows...
13:08.45Zoldenyou can make white shadows
13:09.01Zoldenlet it be TD inside black hole, everything is inverted
13:09.06Goa_not if I have shadows in my sprites:D
13:10.12Zoldenyou can create low contrast particles and add a force, so they will be vertexing
13:11.04Goa_lol
13:13.48Zoldenanimated background may be a nice solution
13:15.24Goa_I was thinking about making a randomly generated one.D
13:15.32Goa_though I could make that animated too:D
13:15.58Zoldenmake it randomly generated, it's easy
13:16.56Zoldenjust a few layers with different textures and blend shader, and you will draw at alpha layer
13:17.16Goa_hmm
13:17.18Goa_nice
13:19.20Zoldeni used pow() operation for the new math, and it's fucking slow ;/
13:33.49Goa_hmm
13:34.04Goa_dont know what would be the best way to make grid
13:38.04Zoldenhow about fuck grids?
13:39.13Zoldentowers can have a collider, and on place, up'd check for it
13:39.37Zoldenbtw, you got to check (on utub) how buldings are being placed in dominations
13:39.44Zoldenit's a good way
13:39.54Goa_grid is must in a pro td:D
13:39.54Zoldenthere's grid used, though
13:40.49Zoldenwell, I'd think deeper to see why people invented the grid, and if you realy need it
13:51.51Goa_ohh tile mapping for sprites are in untiy beta.D
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15:18.50ZoldenTwoDie how's youtubing?
15:19.39TwoDiefucked up
15:20.03TwoDieonly now noticed someone used my forum  for maps feedback :D
15:20.08TwoDieit was month ago
15:20.22TwoDielazy ass fuck ;<
15:22.08Zoldenlol
15:22.26Zoldenif you used reddit as forum, as all white ppl do, you could notice it earlier
15:27.00TwoDienot really
15:27.16TwoDiereddit sucks as long lasting conversation
15:27.22TwoDieit just more for spam and shiet
15:33.52TwoDienot for long lasting discution and karma gatherings
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17:59.17anarchHELLO
18:05.04TwoDiehey black dude
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18:13.00AshamedI lub that I get paid to make batch scripts
18:16.11Ashamedi mean bash
18:16.14Ashamedfuck batch
18:16.19Ashamedi get paid to make batch scripts too
18:16.22Ashamedbut fuck windows
18:29.58anarch:D
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19:05.10Ashamedhttp://abcnews.go.com/Business/mexico-millionaire-lures-treasure-hunters-hidden-chest/story?id=30642375  ima find this
19:16.39anarch>:[
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19:18.34Goa_would be nice way to market stuff
19:21.55Goa_Zolden http://blogs.unity3d.com/2015/04/29/announcing-support-for-microsoft-hololens/
19:26.53Zoldenhelp me, obi wan kenobi, you're my only hope
19:27.12TwoDiedamn
19:27.17TwoDiewant to vomit..
19:27.17TwoDiehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pc71YvWG0GQ
19:27.34TwoDiezolden
19:27.36TwoDiei know
19:28.12Zoldenyea, hollywood ways are done
19:28.29ZoldenTwoDie u know what? recognized the quote?
19:28.38AshamedNOONOONONONON
19:29.04TwoDiei do not
19:29.24Zoldenwhat do you know then?
19:29.41Zoldenroad to penisville?
19:29.56Zoldenwhere to buy a ticket to penisland?
19:30.03Zoldenhow to run a poopmachine with tits?
19:30.06TwoDiehow to lay in bed
19:30.10TwoDieand wait for tomorrow
19:30.22ZoldenWHO TAUGHT YOU!!!
19:30.28ZoldenIT WAS A SACRED SECRET!!!
19:30.30TwoDiegod
19:30.34TwoDiecame and said
19:30.39TwoDieu can close ur eyes
19:30.42TwoDieand bam
19:30.48TwoDieit was new morning :O
19:31.15Zoldenthis makes you a time travelling super hero
19:31.29TwoDieyeah
19:31.30Zoldenyou just need a villain to fight agains, and a nice hollywood trailer
19:31.38TwoDieit only travels forward
19:31.40TwoDienever back
19:32.19Zoldenthere's nothing to do in the past whe everyone is in the present
19:34.45Goa_Ahh redlettermedia!
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19:57.17Goa_Zolden are you familiar with this: https://everyplay.com ?
19:58.34Zoldenno
19:59.19TwoDielol
19:59.26TwoDiein twitch csgo stream
19:59.35TwoDiemcdonalds ad
20:07.23Ashamedget that mcdonalds!
20:23.24TwoDiepizdiets
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22:46.29DeadZerglingthe day is saved, I just fucked the counter with a bunch of juice
22:46.36DeadZerglingBounty saves the day, once again!
23:24.34A1winhttp://a1win.pp.fi/ss/unity/np/gif/np00021.gif
23:26.35DeadZerglingone guy makes a scary face, other guy shits himself to death?
23:26.49A1winIt's a gun with no graphics
23:28.03DeadZerglingi see, making Kirby FPS?
23:28.25A1winThat's quite far from first person ;I
23:28.45DeadZerglingyea, but your other project screamed FPS
23:28.51DeadZerglingor at least, FP view
23:29.02DeadZerglingso thought you might be aiming for that eventually here too
23:29.29A1winNah, some kind of a roguelike/hack'n'slash
23:29.47DeadZerglingoh, so nuclear throne remake?
23:29.49A1winSomeone's probably already done that but I haven't seen one
23:30.28A1winYeah seems similar in genre
23:30.41DeadZerglingaye, the arms just kind of rotate around the body
23:30.47DeadZerglingcan make perfect shots from any stance, lol
23:31.25DeadZerglingI think that particular did melee really awesome as far as action games go
23:32.12DeadZerglingso simple too, just a swing graphic, a search radius for damage, and destruction, lol
23:32.29A1winHehe
23:32.57DeadZerglinghas been a fairly classic problem with a lot of action/fps games, the melee is either shit or super OP
23:33.01DeadZerglingnever in between
23:33.17A1winWatching some videos, that's much more action packed than I'm going for
23:35.20DeadZerglingaye, just the little blob with spherical hands made me think of it
23:35.22A1winAnyway the character actually has a facing direction and a turning speed.
23:35.29ZoldenA1win why green thing shat?
23:35.37A1winI shot it with an invisible gun
23:35.49Zoldenoh, it was blood
23:35.51DeadZerglinghaha, you are 0 for 2 on that now A1win
23:35.58A1winhehe
23:36.46A1winI'll change the blood effect to proper spatter at some point.
23:36.49A1winBut not important for now.
23:37.43DeadZerglingI've concluded that whatever project I do after this RPG, may never have items again
23:38.36A1winInventory management is a boring gameplay element anyway
23:39.00A1winNot going to have nearly as much of it in this than in roguelikes and such have.
23:39.20ZoldenI had fun managing inventory in diablo 1
23:39.24DeadZerglingyea, next one will be more the sword, shield, tunic, cap, the end
23:39.31DeadZerglingend of inventory
23:39.38DeadZerglingif I allow fucking item at all
23:40.29A1winI'm not sure how I'll do inventory for this, if it's just a few weapon slots that you can fill, you'll have to keep choosing which weapons to get rid of whenever you find a new one, which won't be much fun
23:40.47DeadZerglingaye nuclear throne is that way, is like 4-5 ammo types
23:40.52DeadZerglingthen 2 weap slots
23:41.16A1winMaybe customizable slots so that you find more customization components, so you have a few different weapons/abilities that are always the "same" but you can change how they behave.
23:41.40A1winLike Diablo III runes but with more runes and less abilities.
23:41.49DeadZerglingfor me, it'd be some weap slots, maybe a bag, a tunic slot
23:42.00DeadZerglingthat's it, deal with your tiny inventory bitch
23:42.27A1winAlso I need some kind of a survival mechanic for this. Food/starvation is such a shitty mechanic, basically just a time limit that you can keep incrementing.
23:42.46DeadZerglingit is, but it is effective too
23:42.54A1winMaybe something like in FTL that each level has its own timer (the approaching fleet) and if you don't beat it, things get increasingly harder until you get to the next level, and it resets.
23:43.09DeadZerglingone rogue it was brutal, you could screw up your health or run speed by over eating
23:43.21A1winhehe
23:43.55DeadZerglingI dunno, simple mechanics can often turn out the best
23:44.01DeadZerglingmario's jumping, for example
23:44.09DeadZerglingI can't think of a better jump to have ever
23:44.23A1winOne idea I had is that there's a kind of a mist that follows you, fills up the map tile by tile, starting from the start of the map (with a delay to its start), and the mist spawns enemies around you if you go in it.
23:44.41A1winFood mechanic has always been bad, haha.
23:44.53A1winIt's so boring.
23:45.00A1winAnd annoying
23:45.09Dustin|WorkWizard needs food badly!
23:45.13DeadZerglingNot when you are nearly out of food and rushing into bad situations to save yourself
23:45.13A1winMostly because it involves inventory management
23:45.35DeadZerglingso don't make it inventory
23:45.47DeadZerglingthe brutal roguelike i spoke of didn't, it was just a flat int, 0 to 100
23:46.02DeadZergling1 to 100, you okay, 0 you are losing health rapidly, over 100 bad shit happened too
23:46.28DeadZerglingOh yea, I was fucking pissed when it got in my way, but it was a simple dynamic to introduce more stress in my life
23:49.33A1winIf it's not inventory management, then it's eating when picking food up, and then it makes things annoying because you have to sometimes return to some food that you left behind when you were at full satiety, but then got hungrier before finishing the level.
23:50.12A1winI think per map timers could be the best mechanic. Just not sure yet what happens after the timer.
23:51.07A1winIt'll give you a sense of relief for completing a map. Could also have timed locks at some levels so you have to wait a bit before you get to the next one, creating a kind of a defense scenario for a moment.
23:51.29A1winAlso enemies coming from behind is always fun.
23:52.23A1winSo maybe the player is being chased by something, and completing each level resets the timer for them to appear.
23:53.15A1winCan scale it so that at first it's only a few enemies that spawn, and the longer the player stays in the map, the more of them start to spawn.
23:55.18A1winMight get rather stressful though. I didn't like it in FTL how tightly everything was packed.
23:56.20A1winI guess that could be solved by giving different timer durations for each level.

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