| 00:02.09 | Zolden | :) |
| 00:06.06 | DeadZergling | yea, big shocker there A1win , the textures are so detailed too |
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| 04:16.08 | Ahli | someone on EU bnet willing to test a multiplayer FPS? I want to know how good/bad my hit registration system feels. |
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| 06:04.39 | Goa_ | Zolden somebody took my game from kongrate or armorgames and uploaded it here: http://www.y8.com/games/flappy_egg_3d# nice:D |
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| 09:24.35 | DeadZergling | behold, the worst item icon I've ever made: http://img.ctrlv.in/img/15/04/23/5538ba26526a1.png |
| 09:24.56 | DeadZergling | only way I could make it worse is by adding wavy lines around the handle.... |
| 09:36.43 | Goa_ | did someone bite the right side of it |
| 09:39.31 | DeadZergling | possibly, is a little not so symmetrical. But for a horrible wand with the power of heart.... Not gonna push too hard to perfect it, lol |
| 09:40.38 | DeadZergling | that is 800 % enlarged too, they'll be seeing it a lot smaller |
| 09:43.28 | Goa_ | :D |
| 09:44.23 | DeadZergling | anyways, yea, I'm embarrassed of how, looks like it should be in a sex store next to the dildos that one looks. But the others aren't quite as bad. Except the fire breathing unicorn flamethrower... |
| 09:44.58 | Goa_ | dont be embarrased |
| 09:45.09 | DeadZergling | Gonna be adding 12 shop weapons for people who have shitty RNG, want to just buy the weapons. However, I have made them look like they are made by nerf or the LGBT alliance |
| 09:45.10 | Goa_ | I make much worse art |
| 09:45.56 | DeadZergling | well the icon style is pretty decent, is what it represents that embarasses me, lol |
| 09:47.09 | DeadZergling | on the plus side, learned how to make my own gradients tonight too. I needed the gradient scheme "God Awful Orange" for my nerf weapons |
| 09:50.13 | Goa_ | Zolden its says x86 supported still it removed 4 device, hmmm http://pasteboard.co/2Me7ZKWn.png |
| 09:54.19 | Zolden | it removed devices? |
| 09:54.25 | Zolden | why |
| 09:54.26 | Zolden | from where |
| 09:55.01 | Zolden | DeadZergling why the peniso f your item so thin |
| 09:55.28 | DeadZergling | it is a heart wand zolden, lol |
| 09:55.44 | Zolden | not a key? wow |
| 09:56.16 | Goa_ | Zolden dont know what are those 4 devices, there is no way to see them |
| 09:56.19 | Goa_ | pretty crappy |
| 09:57.35 | DeadZergling | anyways, turned 12 perfectly reasonable items into toy/sex toy knock offs of the originals |
| 09:57.48 | DeadZergling | should be plenty of motivation to get the better items fighting monsters |
| 09:59.36 | DeadZergling | is considerably different to be happy with items when the goal is to make them look awful |
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| 10:08.12 | Zolden | Goa_ I Played top TD games, almost vomited |
| 10:08.22 | Zolden | we must teach the world waht a good td is |
| 10:09.34 | Zolden | Goa_ also, I recommend you to get a device, that would support dominations, and play it a little to see buttons design, interface, graphics, game flow, just every feature you'll have to deal with, they made everything on a very high level |
| 10:14.24 | Zolden | DeadZergling do you want to run my evolution program while you sleep and then show me a screenshot of the graph? |
| 10:14.36 | Zolden | I need to perform many tests, and they are too long |
| 10:14.40 | Zolden | about 8 hours |
| 10:15.12 | DeadZergling | don't think that'll be possible, I can't sleep with the comp on |
| 10:15.46 | DeadZergling | however at work might be a different story, could have it running on 4 diff comps possibly if I don't have work coming in tomorrow |
| 10:19.21 | DeadZergling | I could at least set up a spare machine to run it for you if nothing else |
| 10:19.58 | Goa_ | Zolden all TD-s are crap |
| 10:20.14 | A1win | can't sleep with the PC on or won't try to sleep with the PC on? ;I |
| 10:20.19 | Goa_ | my TD is pretty much over any TD in re playability |
| 10:21.17 | DeadZergling | well A1win , when buying fans, I looked are pure cooling capacity, said the hell with the decibels |
| 10:21.33 | Zolden | DeadZergling will you be able to tell me that you came to work, so I send the files? |
| 10:21.36 | DeadZergling | turns out it is harder to sleep with a stationary aircraft running in the background |
| 10:21.59 | DeadZergling | yea, I think I can do that Zolden |
| 10:22.04 | A1win | maybe it's time to get some new fans |
| 10:22.20 | DeadZergling | maybe, I mean they work fine, but I can't even hear my own speakers over them lol |
| 10:23.05 | Zolden | Goa_ most of them are crap indeed, some TD may be ok, but the ones on top of google play are incredible shit. Though, I mean not gameplay, rather interface, well and a few gameplay features, like how to build towers |
| 10:23.09 | Goa_ | Zolden also I gave up on the idea to make a fighting game for my stick figure game, it would be just too hard to make interesting enemies, so it will be an infinite runner |
| 10:23.36 | Goa_ | yeah like bloons td... |
| 11:41.02 | Zolden | lol http://i.imgur.com/CMppDeG.gifv |
| 12:11.40 | anarch | good morning |
| 12:13.33 | Zolden | anarch got mail? |
| 12:15.23 | anarch | zolden i got it. i forgot to start it up at home and im at work now. i can run it for the next 7.5 hours if you like on my work ocmp (also i7 quad) |
| 12:15.51 | anarch | if this turns out to be a botnet i will hunt you and murder you btw |
| 12:16.57 | Zolden | yes, run the shit out of it! |
| 12:17.16 | Zolden | it's a botnet of bunnies |
| 12:17.56 | anarch | it shouldnt affect anything if i reduce the resolution so i can hide it in the corner, right |
| 12:18.05 | Zolden | 7.5 hours should give enough generations to decide if the shit good |
| 12:18.07 | anarch | just scales everything down, but does not affect functionality |
| 12:18.23 | Zolden | run it fullscreen, then minimize |
| 12:18.32 | anarch | ok |
| 12:18.47 | Zolden | because resolution of graph is created at start and doesn't resize |
| 12:19.17 | Zolden | and it consumes only one cpu core, so shouldn't interfere |
| 12:19.57 | anarch | i see they utilize their projectiles now |
| 12:20.00 | anarch | what did you change to make this happen? |
| 12:20.40 | Zolden | it's only at start |
| 12:20.51 | anarch | i saw a wolf blast a bear with it |
| 12:20.52 | Zolden | random genes do this |
| 12:20.59 | Zolden | then it's being removed |
| 12:21.10 | Zolden | though, they may start doing it later |
| 12:21.29 | Zolden | there's just a slight reward (fitness function and hp) for hitting someone |
| 12:21.36 | Zolden | but still it's not big |
| 12:21.58 | Zolden | because bigger reward turn experiment into mess, best strategy is kill anything and die |
| 12:22.10 | anarch | i see |
| 12:22.38 | Zolden | though, if they learn to aim and shoot stuff, they can do realy good, but with the current genome configuration they can't |
| 12:22.41 | anarch | i wonder if part of this is that the wolf has limited ability to aim. perhaps he sees a target at some distance ahead of him, but has no understanding of the trajectory of that object, so |
| 12:22.43 | Zolden | i'm trying to fix it |
| 12:22.48 | anarch | many times when they fire, it is almost random what they kill |
| 12:22.50 | Zolden | maybe in your configuration they can do it |
| 12:23.00 | Zolden | yes, at start everything is random |
| 12:23.18 | Zolden | first rational acting starts at 200-500 generation |
| 12:23.51 | anarch | but are they physically capable of accurate aiming with the projectile? |
| 12:24.50 | anarch | let me clarify |
| 12:25.16 | anarch | when a wolf shoots the projectile, it takes some time for the projectile to arrive at it's target. call this (T) |
| 12:25.30 | anarch | during this time, the target is likely to move |
| 12:26.00 | anarch | to make accurate shots, especially as (t) increases to larger and larger numbers (farther distances) |
| 12:26.07 | anarch | the wolf would need some way to aim ahead of the target |
| 12:26.09 | anarch | not directly at him |
| 12:27.17 | anarch | so to develope this capability, i would imagine wolves would need something other than detecting distance in their 8/12 directions |
| 12:28.16 | anarch | because basically the wolf needs to shoot before the target ever gets in to it's frontal raycast |
| 12:28.32 | anarch | but how does the wolf know when a target is approaching the frontal raycast before it gets there? |
| 12:29.55 | anarch | basically i am thinking (correct me if i am wrong) that even if it is just 1 wolf and 1 bear, it is physically impossible for the wolf to learn to aim accurately at the bear at certain distance where (T) becomes long enouhg time for the bear to move out of the way |
| 12:30.19 | anarch | because the wolf is incapable of "leading the target" because |
| 12:30.30 | anarch | of the way it percieves and understands its environment |
| 12:31.47 | anarch | and if i am correct ( i may be wrong) then most of the shots that hit beyond a certain range are actually just hitting collateral damage and not the actual intended targets of the wolves |
| 12:34.00 | anarch | and this could be why it is not turning out to be successful from an evolutionary perspective |
| 12:34.09 | anarch | (the projectile weapon i mean) |
| 12:34.22 | Zolden | yes, they are physicall y capcble of accurate aiming |
| 12:35.05 | anarch | against a moving target though? |
| 12:35.32 | Zolden | they can't predict where the target will be, only can aim the actual target |
| 12:35.41 | Zolden | which is already a great achievement |
| 12:35.55 | Zolden | would guarantee up to 50% hits |
| 12:37.11 | anarch | you may consider this a waste of time but i would be curious to see what happens if you increase the projectile speed by like x2 - x6 |
| 12:37.45 | anarch | so they could more easily assassinate a victim |
| 12:37.47 | Zolden | cost of hit is 1/10 of the bonus (not including killing the bear who can kill the wolf) |
| 12:38.17 | Zolden | I made projectile time slow enough to give them time to dodge it |
| 12:38.19 | anarch | i think sometimes they release bursts of many shots because it helps them hit the moving target |
| 12:38.23 | anarch | they do a strafe type of attack |
| 12:38.31 | anarch | ah i see |
| 12:38.36 | anarch | do they sense the projectiles coming in? |
| 12:38.40 | Zolden | yea |
| 12:38.45 | Zolden | they sense every kind of object |
| 12:39.05 | anarch | ok i see. that changes how i view this a little bit |
| 12:39.07 | Zolden | except rabbits don't feel meat and wolves don't feel cabbage |
| 12:39.43 | anarch | might be interesting if rabbits did feel meat so they could avoid being hunted, and perhaps wolves who feel cabbage could use it to know where rabbits are likely to come |
| 12:39.59 | anarch | oh you mean dead meat |
| 12:40.06 | anarch | yea thats pointless obviously |
| 12:40.17 | Zolden | i could add this if other things start working. I'm just a bit worried about the amount of senses |
| 12:40.19 | anarch | but if wolves feel cabbage maybe they could use it strategically to hunt bunnies |
| 12:40.34 | anarch | thats fair |
| 12:40.38 | anarch | its on generation 110 now |
| 12:41.41 | anarch | do the bears learn also |
| 12:41.46 | anarch | or did you say they were preprogrammed |
| 12:42.31 | Zolden | preprogrammed, don't learn |
| 12:43.46 | anarch | its a bloody battlefield of dead and dying animals :( |
| 12:44.40 | anarch | its interesting to watch |
| 12:44.47 | anarch | i saw a wolf go on a rampage |
| 12:44.58 | Zolden | it's a dark humor of the universe: death brings beauty and complexity |
| 12:45.27 | anarch | do the wolves develop methods to avoid the bears? |
| 12:45.39 | anarch | so far the bears eat them up pretty easily |
| 12:45.42 | Zolden | yea, I should make a video of the process and post on reddit, to attract more computers to compute |
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| 12:45.59 | Zolden | yes, wolves are pretty good at avoiding bears |
| 12:46.08 | Zolden | TwoDie hey, got any computation? |
| 12:46.31 | TwoDie | in few minutes 2k |
| 12:47.54 | Zolden | nice |
| 12:47.56 | TwoDie | what graph really shows? as when i came back there was huge drop in the stat line |
| 12:48.00 | Zolden | what's your cpu? |
| 12:48.19 | Zolden | red lines - wolves fitness, green lines - rabbits fitness |
| 12:48.33 | Zolden | it's a mix of survival time and rewards for picking food |
| 12:48.45 | Zolden | shows best 20% of population |
| 12:48.50 | Zolden | show me a screen pls |
| 12:48.54 | TwoDie | intel i3-3220 |
| 12:49.14 | Zolden | what's frequency of a core? |
| 12:49.19 | TwoDie | 3.2 |
| 12:49.23 | Zolden | good |
| 12:49.44 | Zolden | next time i'll build it with faster timescale for you |
| 12:49.54 | Zolden | if you want to have a next time |
| 12:49.58 | Zolden | i need alot of experiment |
| 12:50.08 | Zolden | des it interfere with gaming? |
| 12:51.00 | TwoDie | havent really gaming |
| 12:51.04 | TwoDie | utubing mostly |
| 12:51.15 | Zolden | anarch i'm at 3.5K generation here, wolves eat meat, avoid bears, pursue rabbits, rabbits eat cabbage, run from wolves... if only wolves attacked |
| 12:51.16 | TwoDie | streams a bit questionable on |
| 12:51.36 | anarch | so they develop successully in all regards except projectiles |
| 12:51.43 | Zolden | yes, it seems |
| 12:51.55 | Zolden | though, I'd say, not everythign is perfect |
| 12:52.10 | Zolden | sometimes they pick the food at some directions, and doesn't at others |
| 12:52.14 | anarch | do the wolves have any other means to kill a bear? |
| 12:52.44 | Zolden | killing a bear means higher survival chance + reward bonuns of hp and fitness |
| 12:52.58 | anarch | yep and they can kill them with projectile |
| 12:53.03 | anarch | anything else like claws? |
| 12:53.09 | anarch | i guess a bears claws would win? |
| 12:53.22 | Zolden | bear wins in 100% chance, no claws |
| 12:53.33 | Merc | sharks > bears |
| 12:54.07 | Zolden | Merc you sould like you just watched jurassic park trailer |
| 12:54.18 | Zolden | Merc what about you? want to run some evolution? |
| 12:54.26 | Zolden | i need computational power! |
| 12:54.37 | TwoDie | zoklden http://i.imgur.com/FMWc3UG.png |
| 12:54.40 | Merc | I've avoided the trailer |
| 12:54.51 | Merc | and I'm not sure what you mean about running evolution |
| 12:56.12 | Zolden | TwoDie nice, thanks, this is what I was looking for, Now you can close it, it already gave me the idea of how good your configuration (not good, because of low frequency of good mutations) |
| 12:56.43 | Zolden | Merc I'm working on genome system, that allows to evolve AI from scratch in simple objects in simple environment |
| 12:57.03 | Zolden | Merc and I need to find optimal parameters of that genome system by running alot of eperiments |
| 12:57.24 | Zolden | Merc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmSTNu0Zjh8 |
| 12:57.28 | Zolden | it's a first experiment |
| 12:57.33 | Zolden | now I got second one |
| 12:57.52 | Zolden | I ask people to run it for 8 hours on their computers and screenshot the graph |
| 12:59.04 | Zolden | nice, reddit comment on downvote spree |
| 12:59.12 | Zolden | feels trolly |
| 13:03.55 | TwoDie | fuck yeah like never before had been smashing peoples faces with rouge in HS |
| 13:06.48 | Merc | fance |
| 13:06.53 | Merc | fancy* |
| 13:07.27 | anarch | downvotes zolden |
| 13:11.18 | TwoDie | reports zolden to nazi polize |
| 13:17.14 | Zolden | TwoDie I had 25 wins in a row in DN |
| 13:17.29 | Zolden | Merc so, you want to run it? |
| 13:18.55 | TwoDie | ggood for u zoldejn |
| 13:20.41 | Zolden | good for all of us |
| 13:21.24 | TwoDie | ohhh |
| 13:21.30 | TwoDie | cool weather having here |
| 13:21.34 | TwoDie | been outside |
| 13:21.46 | TwoDie | and thought to myself what im looking there for? |
| 13:21.50 | TwoDie | can u say zolden |
| 13:24.33 | TwoDie | lol |
| 13:24.33 | TwoDie | http://i.imgur.com/CMppDeG.gifv |
| 13:25.49 | Zolden | TwoDie tits? |
| 13:26.26 | Zolden | earlier today: <Zolden> lol http://i.imgur.com/CMppDeG.gifv |
| 13:27.21 | Zolden | right now it's cold and raining, but getting (finally, bitch) warmer every day, will be +20 next week |
| 13:27.23 | Goa_ | cats are overrated |
| 13:27.32 | Zolden | cats are overrabbit |
| 13:28.03 | TwoDie | very sorry boy, im so late came to reddit and here :/ |
| 13:31.06 | Zolden | u so late came to rabbit and here :/ |
| 13:35.59 | TwoDie | https://youtu.be/14KuvLnfW_o?t=7m12s |
| 13:38.14 | TwoDie | http://i.imgur.com/Dzmg7Xk.jpg |
| 13:40.01 | Zolden | this simply gives better opportunities to indie gamedevs |
| 13:54.16 | Goa_ | nice pic |
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| 14:03.00 | anarch | zode |
| 14:03.05 | anarch | Zolden: |
| 14:04.16 | anarch | on generation 555, i am noticing a trend. the wolves shoot a lot in the beginning of the round (which anihilates a lot of other creatures (i guess this reduces their competitors) but then they dont rerally shoot much for the remainder of the round. perhaps the creatures only believe it is worthwhile if they have about max energy |
| 14:07.08 | Zolden | anarch yes, they feel their own hp, and can limit shoots if it's low |
| 14:07.29 | Zolden | also, your generations run pretty fast, means they rely alot on killing each other |
| 14:07.49 | Zolden | it's a local optimum, that I hope they'll find ways to leave |
| 14:13.59 | anarch | some of the wolves are triggerhappy |
| 14:14.14 | anarch | only for the first 5 seconds of the round |
| 14:17.33 | TwoDie | OMG HYPE http://i.imgur.com/MFhIRc3.png |
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| 14:19.57 | anarch | i dont understand? |
| 14:21.25 | Goa_ | thats really gta5? |
| 14:21.55 | Goa_ | ahh http://i.imgur.com/XS3XOm7.jpg |
| 14:22.35 | Ashamed | i got gtav pc >< |
| 14:22.59 | Ashamed | I got it like half off on some preorder deal was pretty good ha |
| 14:39.46 | Zolden | dry road is easy for unity 5 shader |
| 14:39.49 | Zolden | posteffects too |
| 14:39.54 | Zolden | poo too |
| 14:42.14 | Goa_ | yeah that image looks so realistic because all those post effects blur |
| 14:42.20 | Goa_ | but still its pretty nice |
| 14:44.14 | Ashamed | They uncompressed the entire game for pc |
| 14:44.22 | Ashamed | it is a 60gb fucking game |
| 14:58.48 | TwoDie | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdIhQWR4498 |
| 15:02.16 | Ashamed | TwoDie that may be the best game ever |
| 15:04.25 | TwoDie | WELL FUCK U THEN |
| 15:09.04 | Ashamed | BEST EVER |
| 15:18.35 | Zolden | TwoDie wanna run one more experiment? |
| 15:24.03 | Ashamed | two more |
| 15:24.06 | Ashamed | he wants two more! |
| 15:29.58 | anarch | Zolden: generation 1010 |
| 15:30.18 | anarch | can a bunny be killed by a projectile? |
| 15:30.27 | anarch | i just saw one doing what i think was fancy evasive maneuvers to dodge |
| 15:31.48 | Ashamed | Bunny agent? |
| 15:33.01 | Zolden | yes, bunnies can |
| 15:35.11 | anarch | some bunnies are getting super good |
| 15:35.17 | anarch | very fast and accurate and evasiver |
| 15:35.19 | anarch | evasive^ |
| 15:35.25 | Ashamed | BUNNY AGENTS |
| 15:35.27 | Ashamed | i am telling you |
| 15:35.50 | Ashamed | the matrix though mr. smith was too intimidating. Turned into a bunny |
| 15:36.13 | anarch | the bears are more like the agents though |
| 15:36.17 | anarch | since they hunt and kill the wolves |
| 15:36.30 | Zolden | why does it make them agents? |
| 15:36.32 | Ashamed | I dont even know what we are tlaking about |
| 15:37.20 | Ashamed | what is this generation 555 game you even speak of |
| 15:43.55 | anarch | its a simulation |
| 15:44.20 | anarch | where the bunnies, wolves, and bears have a behavior based on their genome, which is initially randomly generated |
| 15:44.47 | anarch | and via natural selection, the genome is optimized, thus the creatures behavior in more strategic ways as the generations increase |
| 15:45.08 | Ashamed | where can i see the simulation? |
| 15:45.12 | Ashamed | its a trap isn't it |
| 15:45.55 | anarch | its an executable running on my computer |
| 15:46.05 | anarch | zolden is the one who is making the simulation so he sent me the program |
| 15:46.17 | anarch | its done in unityt |
| 15:46.19 | anarch | unity* |
| 15:46.55 | Ashamed | I want it |
| 15:48.06 | anarch | Ashamed: http://imagebin.ca/v/1zKuekAQUjh3 |
| 15:48.08 | anarch | screenshot |
| 15:50.20 | Goa_ | Zolden you need to make a twitch fame from your genome:D |
| 15:50.33 | Goa_ | game* |
| 15:50.39 | Goa_ | fame, lol misstype |
| 15:51.18 | Zolden | both!! |
| 15:53.01 | Ashamed | graphics are awesome! |
| 15:53.24 | Ashamed | wolves = red |
| 15:53.30 | Ashamed | bears = brown |
| 15:53.48 | Ashamed | white = bunnies |
| 15:53.52 | Ashamed | green = aliens? |
| 15:54.11 | anarch | WOLVES = grey |
| 15:54.12 | anarch | bears are brown |
| 15:54.32 | Ashamed | who da read? |
| 15:54.34 | Ashamed | red* |
| 15:55.07 | anarch | rabbits are little white ones |
| 15:55.15 | anarch | green is cabage (rabbit food) |
| 15:55.19 | anarch | and red is dead animals (meat) |
| 15:55.22 | anarch | and yellow is bullets |
| 15:55.53 | anarch | wolves are the ones capable of shooting bullets |
| 15:56.42 | Ashamed | i must be going color blind.. that screen shot has red/brown/white/green -.- lol |
| 15:57.13 | Ashamed | the red ones have little dots in the center howevver |
| 15:57.46 | Ashamed | So what is this experiment for? |
| 15:57.49 | anarch | meat/bear/rabbit/cabbage |
| 15:57.58 | anarch | in the screenshot, all of the wolves are unfortunately deceased |
| 15:58.18 | anarch | and thus there would be no bullets visible in the shot either |
| 15:58.33 | Ashamed | omg so much wasted meat |
| 15:58.39 | anarch | yea :( |
| 15:58.46 | anarch | there starts out with so many animals |
| 15:58.49 | Ashamed | bears just kill for fun |
| 15:58.50 | anarch | the first 3 seconds is a blodbath |
| 15:58.59 | anarch | bullets raining down in every direction... |
| 15:59.04 | anarch | clearing fields of animals |
| 15:59.04 | anarch | lol |
| 15:59.11 | Zolden | anarch ok, show me the graph, I need to plan next series of experiments based on what you've got so far |
| 15:59.17 | anarch | alright |
| 15:59.23 | Zolden | then you can let them evolve further |
| 15:59.35 | Ashamed | anarch just draw a wiener and say its the graph |
| 16:00.37 | Ashamed | you think wolves with bullets would survive |
| 16:01.20 | anarch | Zolden: http://imagebin.ca/v/1zKyZiEeOcze |
| 16:01.22 | anarch | graph |
| 16:02.24 | TwoDie | zolden i coudl |
| 16:04.03 | Zolden | TwoDie ok, will send in 15 minutes |
| 16:04.41 | Zolden | anarch looks like bunnies recently found a way to run from woves more effectively |
| 16:04.53 | Zolden | or wolves started to attack each other too much |
| 16:05.34 | Zolden | ok, keep simulating till about 2-3k generations |
| 16:05.37 | Zolden | or till u go home |
| 16:06.15 | anarch | BASED ON MY VISUAL ASSESSMENT, IT LOOKS LIKE THE RABBITS HAVE BECOME QUITE GOOD AT EVADING THE WOLVES... |
| 16:06.21 | anarch | sorry..caps.. |
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| 16:06.29 | anarch | almost to the point where the wolves must get lucky to catch one |
| 16:06.41 | anarch | it looks like the bunny can outrun them easily |
| 16:06.58 | Zolden | yes, max speed is higher for rabbits |
| 16:06.59 | anarch | and it perhaps leads to mass starvation of the wolves |
| 16:07.06 | Zolden | and wolves are faster than bears |
| 16:07.18 | Zolden | so, it's up to control system to handle dodging |
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| 16:07.37 | Zolden | there's some meat as well, but wolves rarely eat it |
| 16:07.46 | anarch | oh yes |
| 16:07.48 | anarch | i wonder why not |
| 16:09.07 | Zolden | maybe I need to generate the meat more frequently, so it's better exposed, and genes that help to get meat would have more chances to stay |
| 16:10.31 | anarch | i wonder why this happens though. sometimes wolves will be so close to the meat but thye ignore it to chase a rabbit |
| 16:10.35 | anarch | as if they prefer live prey |
| 16:12.21 | Zolden | because there's no gene to connect the senses in meat direction and movement |
| 16:12.49 | anarch | ah i see |
| 16:13.03 | Zolden | i'll now try to increase the chance of adding new genes |
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| 16:27.24 | Zolden | TwoDie sent |
| 16:33.55 | TwoDie | zolden how much? |
| 16:34.35 | Zolden | how much u needed? |
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| 16:35.59 | TwoDie | a much |
| 16:37.32 | Zolden | just shut up and run, or I beat your butt |
| 16:37.34 | Goa_ | Zolden https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.Go4.Pacy |
| 16:37.43 | Zolden | screen at >1200 gens |
| 16:37.47 | TwoDie | what |
| 16:37.48 | Zolden | hope they make it till u sleep |
| 16:37.54 | TwoDie | what a dick u are zolden |
| 16:38.06 | TwoDie | even hitler wasnt that kind of dick |
| 16:38.16 | TwoDie | he did nothing wrong ;< |
| 16:38.17 | Zolden | beats TwoDie butt |
| 16:38.27 | Zolden | Goa_ updated? |
| 16:38.29 | TwoDie | gives zolden a rimjob |
| 16:38.33 | Goa_ | yes |
| 16:38.42 | Zolden | i'll try if visit mcdonalds, ur app too heavy |
| 16:38.47 | TwoDie | poopdated |
| 16:38.59 | Zolden | TwoDie the only rimjob I accept is a screen of 1200 generations |
| 16:39.27 | Zolden | and there may be fun, because I raised add new gene during a mutation from 20 to 50% |
| 16:39.35 | Zolden | they may explode |
| 16:39.43 | Zolden | or turn to chaos |
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| 16:49.27 | Zolden | penis |
| 16:49.37 | anarch | GENERATION 1380 |
| 16:49.49 | anarch | wovles still having trouble not starving to death |
| 16:50.10 | anarch | the last remaining wolves seem to be ones that just stand still in the middle and hope not to be shot or caught |
| 16:50.20 | Zolden | lol |
| 16:50.21 | Zolden | dicks |
| 16:50.25 | anarch | i guess this conserves energy |
| 16:50.42 | Zolden | actually moving doesn't consume energy |
| 16:50.49 | Zolden | otherwise they don't move mosstly |
| 16:50.50 | anarch | oh i see |
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| 17:02.09 | TwoDie | c c c c c c c |
| 17:08.58 | TwoDie | tits http://imgur.com/gallery/zlwlK |
| 17:16.07 | TwoDie | bam, suddenly rabbit died... |
| 17:26.01 | Zolden | lol, that photoshop |
| 17:26.08 | Zolden | need to participate ps battles again |
| 17:50.17 | TwoDie | lol |
| 17:50.26 | TwoDie | in arcade swastikas and hitler |
| 17:50.35 | TwoDie | in map image |
| 17:51.26 | Zolden | putin may ban bnet now |
| 17:59.51 | Goa_ | No, he wouldnt ban shity thing:D |
| 18:09.12 | TwoDie | gen 433 |
| 18:11.22 | Zolden | TwoDie gj |
| 18:11.35 | TwoDie | WEERY VERLL PLARYED |
| 18:11.49 | TwoDie | ANYWAYS WILL BE GETTING REKT IN 2-3 HOURS |
| 18:13.33 | Zolden | rektangle? |
| 18:13.57 | TwoDie | straight line in the bed |
| 18:24.41 | TwoDie | http://steamcommunity.com//workshop/aboutpaidcontent/ |
| 18:28.30 | Zolden | fuck shit, i'll sell my TD game |
| 18:39.59 | anarch | Zolden: |
| 18:40.39 | anarch | what condition triggers the start of a new round? I have noticed sometimes all of the wolves are dead, and just about all bunnies are dead. the round continues with just bears, dead animals, and cabbages which continue to grow and overpopulate the world |
| 18:52.02 | Zolden | anarch both wolves and rabbits must go below their minimum pop size |
| 18:52.10 | Zolden | they can stack, so 10 looks like one |
| 18:56.48 | anarch | oh i see |
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| 19:10.13 | Pirate|AtSea | ahoy |
| 19:12.53 | anarch | Zolden: |
| 19:13.13 | anarch | i think perhaps i have noticed an anomoly |
| 19:13.38 | anarch | rabbits and wolves movement is restricted by the white border. their centerpoint can not cross the line. |
| 19:13.46 | anarch | however, the bears seem to be able to move completely offscreen |
| 19:13.56 | anarch | and it allows them to swoop in from offscreen and kill wolves who are on the border |
| 19:14.07 | duckies | lol twodie, that looks lovely |
| 19:14.42 | anarch | i feel this perhaps gives an unfair advantage to the bears against the wolves |
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| 19:20.59 | Zolden | oh yeah http://i.imgur.com/cW9MZRF.jpg |
| 19:21.06 | Zolden | photoshop battles entry |
| 19:21.49 | Zolden | anarch actually bears can be felt by wolves while they still far outside, so it's up to them to react or not |
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| 19:32.16 | anarch | Zolden: oh i see |
| 19:39.44 | TwoDie | rabbits should fuck more |
| 19:42.10 | TwoDie | zolden http://i.imgur.com/rFKcYNR.png |
| 19:42.50 | Zolden | oh, i see |
| 19:42.54 | Zolden | pretty chaotic |
| 19:42.56 | Zolden | too much new genes |
| 19:42.58 | Ashamed | rabbits fuck sooo much |
| 19:43.00 | Zolden | thanks |
| 19:52.34 | TwoDie | hmm getting a bit more crazy |
| 19:53.52 | Ashamed | them rabbits fucking too much? |
| 19:54.24 | Zolden | what mde you think so>? |
| 19:56.04 | TwoDie | bigger couple red lines |
| 19:58.21 | Zolden | a single lucky wolf may walk in a bunch of fat rabbits to get a huge advantage, that will look like a tall red line |
| 19:58.44 | Ashamed | omg |
| 19:58.45 | Zolden | but the real sign of progress is when the bottom of the lines gets higher |
| 19:58.48 | Ashamed | lucky wolf! |
| 19:59.05 | Zolden | means good mutation spreads along the population and improves chances of the majority |
| 20:01.52 | TwoDie | yeah in other areas not much possitve changes |
| 20:01.57 | TwoDie | all that chaos |
| 20:03.10 | anarch | alright im going home |
| 20:03.16 | anarch | zolden need any more info from this thing before i do? |
| 20:03.21 | anarch | its at 2055 generations |
| 20:09.59 | Zolden | yes |
| 20:10.03 | Zolden | screen pls |
| 20:11.46 | anarch | graph? |
| 20:14.13 | Zolden | yea |
| 20:14.25 | anarch | http://imagebin.ca/v/1zMD8zJByKCW |
| 20:14.28 | anarch | here you go |
| 20:14.31 | Zolden | ty |
| 20:14.31 | anarch | going home now |
| 20:14.33 | anarch | see ya |
| 20:14.34 | anarch | np |
| 20:16.15 | DeadZergling | having fun trying to get everyone to run your program Zolden ? |
| 20:16.38 | Zolden | yea |
| 20:16.44 | Zolden | and it helps alot |
| 20:16.45 | Goa_ | :D |
| 20:47.04 | Ashamed | w00t found an apartment |
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| 21:03.15 | DeadZergling | grats, no more hanging out in IRC on the library computer then Ashamed ? |
| 21:03.42 | Ashamed | lol |
| 21:03.48 | Ashamed | i get paid to hang out on IRC |
| 21:03.55 | Ashamed | 26 an hour to be exact -.- |
| 22:02.47 | DeadZergling | how do I keep convincing myself I need more UI crap. Fortunately, this one is supposed to look bad: http://img.ctrlv.in/img/15/04/23/55396bd6daa66.png |
| 22:03.44 | Zolden | regrets clicking the link |
| 22:08.19 | DeadZergling | yes Zolden we know, you are an asshole |
| 22:25.56 | Zolden | why you call yourself Zolden? |
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| 23:16.50 | Ahli | I need some people to test my multiplayer FPS map... anyone here? |
| 23:24.24 | DeadZergling | is real time response and being able to in fact do more than connect required? |
| 23:24.36 | DeadZergling | I can join as a dummy player, but not really able to move/shoot well |
| 23:29.04 | DeadZergling | let me know anyways Ahli , can join, but not able to function too well if I join over a remote connection :) |
| 23:30.24 | Ahli | well, moving and shooting is the reason to test... I need to know how hittable players are and I hope to get a game with 8 players someday to see how it behaves when everyone walks and shoots around, etc. |
| 23:31.22 | DeadZergling | well, could give you a very simple moving target |
| 23:31.41 | DeadZergling | just don't be expecting any 180 sniper head shots |
| 23:32.14 | Ahli | well, let's just try it :D |
| 23:32.31 | Ahli | EU or US bnet? US would require me to publish it there really quick |
| 23:32.59 | DeadZergling | oh, this is SC2? either way works, I assume ill lag horribly either way |
| 23:33.31 | Ahli | what else should it be? |
| 23:33.49 | Ahli | UnityMapster? |
| 23:33.50 | DeadZergling | figured you had migrated to unity as well, lol |
| 23:34.14 | Ahli | I have too much stuff in SC2 to do to learn unity |
| 23:34.44 | Ahli | channel ahli on EU |
| 23:35.12 | Ahli | if anyone else wants to see/test it, just speak up :) |
| 23:35.40 | DeadZergling | okay, hopefully it doesn't require me to patch, but heading over now |
| 23:37.49 | DeadZergling | so you are in the same boat as me aren't you Ahli , lol |
| 23:38.05 | Ahli | which boat? |
| 23:38.10 | DeadZergling | I know I should migrate to Unity, but I have things to finish in SC2 first |
| 23:38.43 | Ahli | well, I don't think I have time to migrate to anything... I should finish university instead of learning something new. |
| 23:39.12 | DeadZergling | on bnet in your channel now |
