IRC log for #sc2mapster on 20150422

00:16.25DeadZerglinglol, mythbusters video game episode.  Fruit Ninja Busted, Doom 3 plausible
00:42.14Zoldenthey should prove, that unity is better than ue4
01:09.50draktokI am back
01:09.53draktokUnity is fun zolden
01:09.57draktokbut hard with no artist :)
01:36.19DeadZerglingcould become an artist, draktok
01:36.20Zoldenyes, it's better to have one
01:36.48Zoldendon't become artist, it's not what coders for
01:37.02DeadZerglingoh btw Zolden, apparently in the near future Death TV is getting featured
01:37.15draktoknice!!!';
01:37.35Zoldengood
01:37.46Zoldenhope it will motivate you
01:37.48Zoldento go unity
01:38.06DeadZerglingwell, I'm just happy the damn thing will finally get played
01:39.50DeadZerglingbad reviews, good reviews, who cares
01:40.04DeadZerglingjust as long as it gets played, spent too much time on it for it not to
01:42.36DeadZerglingas far as unity goes, you know full well it is the RPG that blocks that Zolden
01:49.06Zoldensrry, too sleepy to understand your gibberish english
02:18.19draktokhahaha
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06:27.11Goa_rofl http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/news/article/russian-start-up-tittygram-sees-business-boom-but-not-everyone-approves/519398.html
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09:31.23Ahliheight at point is horrible... it goes up near cliffs (while the unit's height is clearly unchanged)... it creates wrong height values up to 0.33... -.-
09:32.28Ahlierror of 0.5...
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14:33.40AshamedI AM BATMAN
14:36.47anarchhi batman
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14:50.38Ashamedhello
15:12.35Ahlihi
15:45.47Ashamedello
15:58.51TwoDiehttp://i.imgur.com/lxVCMM0.gifv
16:09.12Goa_http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/sof/4982493312.html
16:11.55TwoDiei will better go fuck myself
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16:29.17Ahliahfjbajlfdbhajdfh
16:29.54Ahlidid anyone else get a PM about helping ashu666 (banned user on sc2mapster) with a map?
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16:32.26Zoldenturns TwoDie into TmoD!e
16:33.55ZoldenTwoDie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XNDM4eAn1U
16:35.08TwoDiehttp://i.imgur.com/lxVCMM0.gifv
16:38.53TwoDiedamn
16:39.05TwoDienever again will my poop will reach by butthole :O
16:45.59Zoldensome people store their poop in lifetime poop libraries
16:49.17Zoldenanarch so, you wanna 10 hours run something for me?
16:49.31ZoldenTwoDie you too, i need to run experiments on your computer for 10 hours
16:49.43TwoDieomg
16:49.43Zoldenit will consume only one core
16:49.54TwoDietommrow
16:49.56Zoldenok
16:50.01Zoldenand it will work minimized
16:50.08Zoldenpoomorrow
16:52.46TwoDiey, going from early morning to pooooool
16:58.29Zoldeni'll send you the file today
16:58.34Zoldentwoday
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17:01.52ZoldenArcanePariah can you run my program on your computer for 5-10 hours and then show me printscreen?
17:13.02Goa_Zolden I am almost finished with going through of http://www.google.com/design/spec/material-design/introduction.html there are some really great tips
17:15.31ZoldenGoa_ who me your resultws
17:17.06Goa_well I didnt change much as many stuff would have needed to make my game almost from scratch
17:17.17Goa_but did some nice small stuff
17:18.27Goa_protip: UI shadow effect are super useful and easy to add to buttons in unity
17:20.05anarchZolden: yea i could do that i guess
17:20.09Goa_I update my game next day
17:20.18anarchi could set it tomorrow morning when i leave for work, printscreen it when i return home?
17:21.17Zoldenanarch yep
17:23.57anarchk
17:40.27TwoDiegoa so u gone on that ui thing deeper i c
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17:48.36Goa_that fucking google docs made me from UI retard to UI expert
17:49.07Mercgot any before and after pics?
17:49.43Goa_It seems somebody high on Q physics made some of it:D http://www.google.com/design/spec/style/typography.html#typography-typeface
18:03.21Goa_Merc http://s2.postimg.org/fd7xfpy21/advancedboard.jpg  ->http://pasteboard.co/2Le80sHi.png
18:04.09Goa_though thats not really good example as I didnt change how the whole thing works, I only made small changes as I didnt want to remake the whole thing
18:04.28Goa_my next game's UI will look far far better:D
18:10.08anarchGoa perhaps right-justify all of the text on the buttons
18:10.30anarchso the actual numbers line up :P
18:10.44anarchi mean the buttons with the math problems on it, not the text
18:11.33anarchorr add a space in front of positive numbers so they line up
18:11.54anarchi just think it looks a little funny with the negative sign causing them to not be aligned
18:22.41Zoldenalso white on light gray looks not ok when there's white on black nearby
18:24.54Goa_good idea with the space anarch
18:25.17anarchty
18:25.21Goa_also good idea Zolden
18:25.39Goa_those buttons are things that I really didnt touch
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19:07.44Goa_changes done: http://pasteboard.co/2Lim2aRu.png
19:07.51Goa_also improved bit the code there
19:09.27anarchnic :D
19:09.29anarchnice*
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19:13.41anarchlooks better :D
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19:36.02AshamedOMG SHARKNADO!
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20:35.18TwoDiepeeeeeee
20:35.18TwoDiehttps://i.imgur.com/v55xWSZ.gifv
20:37.02Zoldenthat fighfighter thought he's a fightfucker and failed
20:38.45Ashamedthe fire sure fucked the firefighter though
20:53.51ZoldenTwoDie check mail at morning, ok?
20:54.01Zoldenthere will be some bunny porn
20:54.19Ashamedomg i want bunny porn
20:54.40TwoDieu will send it at morning?
20:54.43TwoDiewell
20:54.49Zoldeni'll send it at night
20:54.52TwoDieohh
20:54.53TwoDieokay
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20:55.48ZoldenSentryman hey unfortunate comcast user
20:56.02Sentrymanhello
20:56.11SentrymanI'm a friend of draktok's
20:56.28SentrymanI just started trying out custom maps and he told me to come here
20:56.29Ashamed-.-
20:56.46Zoldenmaking or playing custom maps?
20:56.49Ashamedi work for a local ISP i much enjoy our internets better
20:56.54Sentrymanmaking them
20:57.04AshamedUNITY 5
20:57.48SentrymanI'm having a problem with attaching a model to a unit right now, and I don't know what I'm doing wrong
20:58.02Zoldensearch on mapster
20:58.05Zoldenthis is easy to fix
20:58.08Zoldensome actors shit
20:58.16Zoldenthere are many threads where it wa s solved
20:58.21SentrymanI followed this
20:58.21Sentrymanhttp://www.galaxywiki.net/Attaching_a_Model_to_a_Unit
20:58.24Sentrymanand it was working
20:58.35Sentrymanthen I moved the thing and it's not working anymore
20:58.41Sentrymaneven if I redo all the steps
20:59.03Sentrymanbut yeah I'll search, maybe I messed something up
20:59.10Zoldenthere's data dn triggers ways
20:59.29Zoldenyou need to focus on data one
20:59.35Zoldenand if it doesn't work, ask on forum
20:59.40Zoldenin data subforum
20:59.46Zoldenthere are knowledgeble people
20:59.56Sentrymanah ok I'll try data instead of triggers, thanks
20:59.59Ashamedyeah we just talk about dicks all day here
21:00.16Sentrymansmart
21:00.25Zoldentriggers have some disadvantages, so try everythign in data first
21:00.26Sentrymanthat's what I already do anyway
21:00.46Sentrymantalk about dicks not use data
21:00.56AshamedDon't get me started on Hitler's dick
21:16.00TwoDieall those jews and unity sluts
21:33.48Sentrymanso it seems to be putting the model to the map's origin instead of on my unit
21:33.58Sentrymanat least that's what it seem like
21:34.20Sentrymanfor Hosting: Host Site Operations + I did SOpAttachOrigin, is that right?
21:54.04Sentrymannow I got it so it shows up correctly in the preview but in game it's just the generic sphere model
22:03.32Sentrymanif I get rid of the sopattachorigin thing it shows up correctly in the preview but still doesn't work in game, I don't know if that's better or worse
22:06.47DeadZerglingdoes your unit even have an origin attachment point?
22:09.32Sentrymanhow can I tell? it's a unit with object type hero and default unit settings
22:10.23DeadZerglingyou will need to view the model in the cutscene editor
22:10.29DeadZerglingand view the model data that way
22:13.31DeadZerglingif you haven't figured out how to find your model, youll want to start at actor, then go to the model it is using, then go to the model that model is using
22:14.38Sentrymanso I'm trying to use an archon model, I need to check that original model instead of the duplicate model I made that uses the archon model?
22:15.07DeadZerglingcorrect, you can't attach to a point that doesn't exist on the model
22:15.59SentrymanI opened it up in the cutscene editor, should it have a property called origin or something similar?
22:16.07SentrymanI dont see any property like that
22:16.13DeadZerglingis in view or render or something like that
22:16.25DeadZerglingyou want to either view model data, or show attachment points, both will show you what you want
22:17.49Sentrymanit's showing a render of the model, how do I show attachment points?
22:17.54Sentrymanthanks for the help by the way
22:19.05DeadZerglingshould be a box with the archon model below the model view, right?
22:19.25DeadZerglingi want you to right click on that, should be something to the effect of 'show model data' upon right clicking it
22:19.44Sentrymanthere we go
22:19.48Sentrymanyeah it has an origin
22:20.07DeadZerglingokay, while you are here, may want to see if that is the best attachment point for what you want
22:22.38Sentrymanit says origin is bone 59 but Im not sure where that is on the model
22:25.57DeadZerglingclick on the render tab, then Show Geometry, then finally attachmentpoints
22:27.48Sentrymanorigin doesnt show up anywhere
22:27.52Sentrymanmaybe that's the problem
22:27.57SentrymanI could try center instead
22:28.09DeadZerglinghang on, ill open an archon in my editor
22:28.32Sentrymanoh nevermind origin is on the bottom
22:28.52Sentrymanthe smoke stuff was covering it up
22:29.02DeadZerglingyea, you should see 7, origin, center, overhead, shield, target, weapon, head
22:29.24DeadZerglingrender is good for showing exactly where the attachment will start, show model data is good for knowing what you have
22:30.03Sentrymanso if I'm trying to use the archon's model for a custom unit would origin be best?
22:30.03DeadZerglingso while this won't necessarily solve your problem, we can rule out that no origin attachment point is the issue
22:30.25DeadZerglingand this is very useful if you do any attachments in the future
22:30.29SentrymanI see, it narrows down the problem
22:30.36DeadZerglingdepends, if I wanted him to hold a weapon
22:30.41DeadZerglingi might want to use weapon
22:30.49DeadZerglingif I wanted to put a hat on him, might want head
22:31.00DeadZerglingif I wanted a horrible disease inflicted on him, I might want center
22:31.37DeadZerglingcan you describe what you are hoping to accomplish for starters?
22:33.19Sentrymansorry was afk
22:33.44Sentrymanmaybe I'm overcomplicating things, but I just want this model to be my custom unit's model
22:33.52DeadZerglingis not a problem, people respond 3 hours later in here sometimes, a lot of us are working on our own projects while in here
22:34.13DeadZerglingso you just want a unit to use a different model, that is all?
22:34.27Sentrymanyeah, it currently just has the default sphere model
22:34.44DeadZerglingyea, so you should have at least a unit and an actor attached
22:34.51DeadZerglingyou will change the model that actor uses
22:34.57DeadZerglingand should be done pretty much
22:35.41Sentrymanyeah the unit shows the actor and the model as being connected to it
22:35.54Sentrymanand when I follow tutorials it doesn't work for some reason
22:36.07DeadZerglingout of curiosity, did you make this unit from scratch?
22:36.16Sentrymanyeah I did
22:36.27Sentrymanother than the model using the archon model
22:36.48DeadZerglingokay, what you can do instead
22:36.54DeadZerglingis go to the default archon unit
22:37.04DeadZerglingthen right click, then click duplicate
22:37.35Sentrymanoh I see, and I can choose what to copy over
22:37.42DeadZerglingright, hang on
22:37.47DeadZerglinggonna give you very specific instructions
22:38.04DeadZerglingcheckbox the archon, archon attack, archon attack beam, and archon_death actors
22:38.15DeadZerglingthe damage effect
22:38.24DeadZerglingand the weapon
22:38.38DeadZerglingjust rename it to whatever you want your hero to be called
22:38.58DeadZerglingafter it is done, and wala, got a basic custom unit, can alter damage, add abilities, whatever from there
22:39.52Sentrymanawesome, thanks
22:40.34DeadZerglingduplication saves a lot of time, but it isn't perfect
22:40.43DeadZerglingit doesn't always dupe over exactly right
23:04.27DeadZerglingnot sure when my GIMP crashing ability got so high, but I'm getting really sick of it
23:57.12A1winWanted to do something simpler than 3D PCG caves for a change, http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/unity/np/np00005.gif
23:58.19A1winThe cool thing is that the background is a 32x32 texture that shifts & redraws so I can store "decals" in arrays and then apply them on the texture as pixels and it'll run super smoothly.
23:58.50A1winWho would've guessed it can run smoothly, with graphics like these.

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