IRC log for #sc2mapster on 20150417

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07:09.35DeadZerglinghey duckies , guess who fails at working on their map for several days straight, lol
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08:22.34RepoNew asset: Footmen Frenzy - http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/footmen-frenzy/
08:36.31duckieslooks in the mirror and wonders "indeed"
08:48.42*** join/#sc2mapster Zolden (~a@88.135.0.21)
08:49.08ZoldenGoa_ that dominations thing is not a game but a typical money pump
08:49.50Zoldenit's like one city rise of nations, but things are slow, and player can spend the rare resource to fasten things
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11:01.11Goa_Zolden like all such games
11:02.51Goa_Btw discoverability in iTunes apps are so much higher than in crappy Google app store....
11:02.53Goa_http://pasteboard.co/2Db3rfhv.png
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11:17.37ZoldenGoa_ waht people say about your puzzle in reviews?
11:17.58Goa_generally good who tries it
11:18.03Goa_though the UI sucks
11:18.16Goa_2 guy said it in unity circles
11:18.19Zoldenvisually or functionally?
11:18.20Goa_but I know that.D
11:18.24Goa_visually
11:18.50Zoldenwill you try to find a 2d artist or keep harvesting free stuff?
11:20.59Goa_free stuff?
11:21.05Goa_ohh I get it
11:21.09Goa_I harvest
11:21.18Goa_I know how could I make it much nicer
11:21.30Goa_I am just lazy to do it
11:21.42Goa_if I get more good reactions I will probably do it
11:22.08Goa_also I am looking into many apps these days to get better idea what looks good :D
11:31.32Goa_Zolden got to love how the camera man laughs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vqxs7-8OUIc :D
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12:01.50Zoldenso many chicks in army
12:02.04Zoldenalso, they should've fucking debugged the missile before launching it
12:02.06Zoldennoobs
12:06.07ZoldenRommper hey, how's your map doing?
12:06.43Rommperi uploaded the Black Morass map that you may or may not tried
12:06.52Rommpersince that i did nothing
12:07.32Rommperi study study and study
12:07.42Rommperremaining time GTA V or real life stuff
12:08.06Zoldenreal life? bad for mapmaking
12:08.16Rommperhttp://www.moddb.com/mods/chronicles-of-azeroth/news/warcraft-1-black-morass-released-on-europian-server
12:09.02Rommperyeah it is
12:09.10Rommperbut graduation is good for mapmaking
12:09.19Rommperyou can study further in IT
12:10.30Rommperanyway i plan to finish with wc2 multiplayer when summer start
12:10.43Rommperand further improve the wc1 one
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12:19.34Rommperstupid blizzard
12:20.03Rommper->adding 6.2 to ptr test
12:20.24Rommper-> can't create lvl 100 character
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13:06.10Goa_Rommper uj fos jatekaim:D http://go4.launchrock.com/
13:07.47Rommper.)
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14:20.47ZoldenLOL
14:21.02ZoldenI was just watching lion king
14:21.07Zoldenand noticed something
14:21.11Zoldenand it was confirmed
14:21.13Zoldenso funny
14:27.18Goa_?
14:32.40ZoldenGoa_ the guy who voice acted king Mufasa, alos voice acted who?
14:33.27Goa_I dont even remember what character was  king Mufasa:D
14:33.42Zoldenfather of the small lion
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14:39.29Goa_so
14:39.35Goa_who is his voice?
14:41.36Zoldendarth vader
14:47.54Goa_nice
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15:15.17Zoldenwhat's plural for "species"?
15:25.01anarchexactly as you have written
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15:28.47Zoldensame as single?
15:38.20anarchyes
15:40.39Zoldenanarch I just runned a 3.3k generations experiment, and results are rather ok, all learn everything they need, except wolves don't attack with projectiles
15:40.42Zoldenwill add an additional little reward for hitting anything
15:40.47Zoldenalso need a shorter experiment
15:41.04Zoldento adjust alot of everything in genome and find optimal parameters
15:41.07Zoldenthis one is too long
15:42.13anarchI WONDER WHY THEY WOULD NOT EVILVE TO SHOOT PROJECTILES?
15:42.22anarchsorry, cap locks
15:42.45anarchi guess the energy required to shoot makes it not worth it for them to learn how to shoot accurately/effectively
15:42.55anarchi guess some of the early creatures would shoot randomly and expend valuable energy
15:43.01anarchso they learn to not shoot
15:43.18anarchdoes it require similar energy expenditure to attack with claws?
15:43.42Zoldenmore
15:43.45Zoldenand u right
15:44.02Zoldenthough, they would still win if they shoot a rabit and eat
15:44.11Zoldenbut it is hard to randomly invent
15:44.34Zoldenalso, it fells like 8 senses is not enough, they wroked mych better with 12
15:52.35anarchthis could be more complex, but maybe a possible experiment would make it so the projectile takes an additional parameter: "Force(Range)".  The greater the force that the projectile is launched with, the farther it would go, and the more energy it would expend.  So perhapos it could be easy for creatures to learn how to use projectiles first at very close rangers where energy requirements would be low, and then from there in
15:53.17anarchi imagine the same way a wolf may learn to claw animals to death, it may learn to use close range projectiles (comparable energy requirement)
15:53.43anarchand this would be an evolutionary stepping stone ot launch projectiles farhter (presumably after thye learn  to aim them at targets like rabbits or bears)
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16:16.21Zoldensounds a bit complex
16:17.25Zoldenthe problem with shooting is because it's hard to turn float to an event
16:18.21Zoldeni use 1.0 as a threshold, still they either don't shoot, or shoot all at once
16:23.51anarchAH YES I SEE
16:23.55anarchsorry about the caps
16:24.06anarchim at work and the application i use requires all caps so i often forget to turn it off...
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16:48.37Ashamedfucking green ninjas stole my pants
16:48.58Ashamed.
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19:20.47Zoldenhttp://i.imgur.com/H6Ofd69.jpg
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19:28.00DeadZerglingpretty weird picture Zolden , we all know that all 4 of those people would want a bigger penis in their life
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19:48.08Zoldenit will be my twodument
20:12.35TwoDiezolden machine fuck mechanic
20:24.28ZoldenTwoDie did you know lion king lion and dart vader was voiced by the same nigg?
20:27.15TwoDieno
20:34.54TwoDiealan
20:34.54TwoDiehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLzWKMsdYYU&feature=youtu.be&t=27s
21:04.15Zoldenanarch check this
21:04.18Zoldenhttp://i.imgur.com/McpZP4l.png
21:04.35Zoldenred is wolves lifetime, green is rabbits
22:26.28A1win_http://www.twitch.tv/oldspice
22:32.02Zoldenwhat is it A1win?
22:32.16Zoldenit runs ads when i load it
22:32.21A1winlike twitch plays pokemon but with a real dude
22:32.24Zoldenhates adf
22:32.25A1winhe's in some forest
22:32.33A1windidn't seem very interesting though
22:32.38Zoldengood
23:34.41anarchZolden: nice graph
23:35.04anarchso it looks like a gradual increase in survival time?
23:35.41Zoldenyea
23:35.47Zoldenthere's more
23:36.21Zoldenhttp://i.imgur.com/CYMPuiJ.png
23:36.29Zoldenrabbits can't start evolving good
23:36.58Zoldenprobably I should add that "smaller genome size" part of fitness function later, not at start
23:37.13Zoldenthey seem to lose genes and then have problems with getting baack
23:37.52Zoldenpoor bunnies
23:38.39Zoldenmaybe if rabbits evolve, wolves start attackign them, now it's too easy to hunt the fuckers down
23:52.41DeadZerglingif rabbits dying too quickly, the wolves should die too
23:52.46DeadZerglingno food = no wolves
23:55.00Zoldenthere other sources of food
23:55.12Zoldenbut they are rare
23:55.21Zoldenbut enough for a pack to survive a bit
23:56.43ZoldenI read this and feel envious http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/32xyr1/okay_whats_right_with_america/

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