IRC log for #sc2mapster on 20150408

00:01.20DeadZerglingwell we have a winner for the next dialog to redo, charselect is just ass right now, lol
00:04.31Zoldenpoor DeadZergling
00:06.11DeadZerglingindeed, I also need to rename my RPG I think.  Horologium Super Cluster RPG rolls off your tongue like I am going to suck off 100 guys.  Horologium RPG maybe, or something else, I'd kind of like to keep the word Horologium in there though.
00:10.29BountyYou were probably better off just hiding the game UI and building your own from scratch DeadZergling
00:10.34Bountyassuming you're still doing the XML thing
00:10.57DeadZerglingxml no, I am making stuff entirely in GIMP atm
00:12.22DeadZerglingthen again, Horologium RPG has precisely fuck all to do with what the game is....
00:13.47DeadZerglingso may need to just rename the whole damn thing
00:15.22DeadZergling(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
00:15.32BountyGood choice
00:15.39BountyThat is how I plan to do my UI from now on DeadZergling
00:15.39DeadZerglingnot sure what to do, but gonna fucking do something soon I'm sure...
00:15.47Bountyjust make a huge image in GIMP
00:16.00Bountyso much more fun then moving dialogs around lol
00:17.01DeadZerglingyea doing that, then making a new layer for every button, label, image
00:17.10DeadZerglingso I can see what it will really look like
00:17.11BountyYeah
00:17.33BountyIf only you could edit UI like you can in gimp
00:17.35Bountyjust move shit
00:17.45DeadZerglingyou can if you do it xml based now
00:17.55DeadZerglingbut can't edit the actual images too, so, fuck it
00:19.58DeadZerglingyea, I probably just need to rename the whole damn thing
00:20.12DeadZerglingAnother Fucking RPG, how about that....
00:28.22DeadZerglingno idea what to name it.... Don't Rape Pikachu: The Game.  How much creme can that little twinkie hold, you don't want to be the one to find out!
00:28.35DeadZerglingyea, that is where I'm at right now
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06:44.03Goa_cant wait enough for season 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ziXpIPAhD4
06:46.11duckieswhen does it start?
06:47.29Goa_Summer
06:47.33Goa_still no fixed date
06:48.01duckiesthat usually implies last day of last month of the quater D:
06:48.07TwoDiethis summer 2 brothers?
06:48.41Goa_:)
06:53.01TwoDiehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lbJ_JPZN-k
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10:36.16Goa_Rommper keszult orbanrol egy kis video: https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=819838031396591 :D
10:37.49Rommpermegnézték az új Felcsúti halastavat? :D
10:39.50Rommperam:http://www.moddb.com/mods/chronicles-of-azeroth/news/warcraft-1-black-morass-released-on-europian-server
10:39.51Rommper:D
10:50.27Goa_why cant I rate it?
10:50.29Goa_http://www.moddb.com/mods/starcraft-the-final-frontier
10:51.49Rommperyou can't rate? oO
10:52.21Rommperinside Arcade?
10:56.24Goa_no
10:56.27Goa_on mod page
10:57.00Goa_but its cause its TBD
10:58.06Rommperah
10:58.15Rommpernem is tudtam hogy van rate moddb-n xD
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12:49.05anarch<PROTECTED>
13:06.43Goa_now I wonder that there are animals which are scared of spiders.
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14:48.02Goa_Rofl google
14:48.46duckiesgoogle?
15:04.13TwoDiegoogle
15:15.02duckieswhat's that?
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15:27.18TwoDiecheap thing with fur on it
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15:56.26ZoldenTwoDie you know what is your problem>
16:00.01TwoDielaziness?
16:00.14Zoldendeeper
16:00.22Zoldenyou don't smoke weed on every day basis
16:07.14Goa_guys, give me rates:
16:07.15Goa_https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.Go4.Pacy
16:07.19Goa_https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.Go4.HardestEscapeRun
16:09.36Goa_Dam android, thought it would take 1-2 days to review my games cause now they say that every app is checked by people. But it only took few hours and iOS is still from days to review my games.
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16:52.22Mythic~~
17:08.50anarchhi
17:17.30TwoDiezolden heard the news?
17:17.43TwoDiethere will be 2 brothers this summer
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17:23.46ZoldenTwoDie what news? what brothers?
17:23.49Zoldenwhat summer?
17:24.38ZoldenI heard news that russian coder agreed to head transplant
17:25.07TwoDie(09:43:58) Goa_: cant wait enough for season 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ziXpIPAhD4
17:25.27TwoDieand then they turned off electricity :/
17:27.08Zoldenoh yeah
17:55.19RommperRick And Morty :D
17:56.20Rommperany news on the the second season?
18:00.39Zoldenwill start at summer
18:05.01Zoldenanarch have you come up with a next experiment idea?
18:06.08anarchZolden: not yet but soon i will :}
18:06.40anarchi left my previous one running last night with a set of 250 cities
18:06.45anarchit was a tangled mess of lines
18:06.54anarchbut by the morning when i woke up, it was sorted out to a neat path
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18:37.19Zoldenyea
18:37.26Zoldenthat's how the bitch work
19:06.12Goa_Zolden this is great site for optimizing your app store stuff: https://sensortower.com/ (though its not free but has free trial)
19:15.39Zoldenok, i'll check when I make my new game
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19:20.06ZoldenDeadZergling you know what's your problem?
19:20.33DeadZerglingno, but I have a feeling Unity will somehow contain the answer
19:20.53Zoldendeeper
19:20.59Zoldenyou don't smoke weed on every day basis
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19:23.24DeadZerglingI'd have to be willing to smoke it period, for that to happen
19:27.57DeadZerglingas far as I'm concerned, I'm fucked up enough without drugs
19:28.07DeadZerglingwhy fuck a dead horse?
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19:36.01TwoDiewwwwwwwaaaaaow
19:36.01TwoDiehttp://i.imgur.com/wYypRrI.jpg
19:36.04TwoDieOWAWOEAORAOr
19:36.09TwoDiesmoke weed everyday
19:36.12TwoDie;<
19:36.17TwoDiecant find any weed
19:40.41TwoDierip trolloololol
19:41.15TwoDiehttp://imgur.com/r/funny/IuuYkrS
19:42.55DeadZerglingnothing wrong with a redneck wedding, TwoDie
19:45.47TwoDiesome say never forget
19:45.47TwoDiehttp://imgur.com/gallery/wFwAU
19:45.59Rommperi know the first pic with this ending: and you think if there is god it cares about where do you stick your penis?
19:46.02TwoDieand some standards http://imgur.com/gallery/oGwelYf
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19:51.39DeadZerglingI'd say I more hate the standard of if a woman beats the shit out of a man, the guy was obviously an abuser/rapist, but if a woman is even touched, she is a poor victim, death to the rapist man
19:52.22Rommperi like when they say there are no fake rape accusations
19:53.06Rommperand they actually believe when a drunk girl hit on you and later regret it was rape
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19:54.01TwoDieor like the false rape accusation fucks ur life over
19:56.57DeadZerglingor like the false rape accusation gets published in Rolling Stone
20:00.48Zoldenfalse rape accusation rapes the rapper in the rape
20:02.28DeadZerglingshould be some sort of punishment for making false accusations, like has to be a promotional special at a brothel for a week.
20:04.41TwoDiebeing a man with penis is hard
20:05.01DeadZerglingbut that won't ever happen, just like parallel booty call for the guy to go with alimony rulings won't ever happen either.
22:21.53anarchhttp://www.imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=23191
22:21.59anarch250 cities
22:24.31Zoldenneat
22:24.58Zoldenhave you had an additional fitness condition about intersections of the path?
22:25.42Zoldenalso, didn't you draw a diagram how the population progresses along the simulation?
22:27.08anarchso far i have the 3 simple mutations.  no other visualization other than the green path (current best) and red path (current genome being tested)
22:27.34anarchi think i will add a graph to show progress reducing the total distance
22:27.42anarchas generations go
22:28.16Zoldenyea, it's fun to watch, and also it can say something about your algorithm
22:28.19anarchand a generation counter :)
22:28.31Zoldenyea you like generation counters it seems
22:28.32anarchyes true.  i imagine it can help find flaws and ways to improve it
22:28.41anarchi do :)
22:46.23ZoldenTomura http://i.imgur.com/GZMqFyR.gifv
22:46.29Zoldensomeone's fluid simulation
22:51.56Tomuracool. Always wanted to learn that to make good flipbook textures for particles
22:55.00Zoldenwhy? u're coder, aren't you? it's a simple task for a 2d artist, I guess
22:55.11anarchzolden, with your simulation, i understand you have the equivilent of a raycast at each of the 12 positions of the clock
22:55.16Tomurawell it doesn't hurt to know
22:55.35Tomuraalso it gives me a good estimation of how long things need to take
22:55.47Tomuraand how much efford it takes
22:55.52anarcha question though... is it possible for an obstacle to come in at an angle and poke the creature in a blindspot, if it comes in between for example 1 ocolock and 2 ocolcok
22:57.11TomuraBTW PhysX FleX does that in realtime, but it will take years untill you can use that on a wide range of hardware and probably even longer untill it is compatible with all hardware that users have
22:57.17Tomurahttps://youtu.be/1o0Nuq71gI4
23:00.43Zoldenanarch yea, 12 rays with equal angle distance between them
23:02.18Zoldenanarch I use 2 methods: one is equivalent of raycasts, adn second one just finds a closest point of the found collider and projects it to the closest lines
23:02.24Zoldenso, no blind spots
23:02.47ZoldenTomura I think that liquid thing can be faked somehow for realtime simulation on normal hardware
23:03.05Zoldenbtu it requires some knowledge about particles and shaders for particles
23:03.13Tomuraprobably can
23:03.30Zoldenmaybe it must be created with a mesh, that is being dynamically edited
23:03.54Zoldenphysics is a good shit to simulate
23:04.17Zoldenthe era of artificial physicless pixel characters has passed away
23:04.23Zoldenit was the era of mario
23:04.30Zoldenno we entered the new one
23:36.34DeadZerglingget over yourself Zolden , real physics are less fun than exaggerated ones
23:38.32DeadZerglingno one would want to play mario who can only jump 20 pixels max
23:43.38Zoldenphysics, not biology
23:43.54Zoldenwe can invent robomario, who jumps enough
23:44.02DeadZerglingOh I see, you are into pseudo-physics
23:44.24Zoldenno psedo, real newtonian law math
23:45.11Zoldenexample: that game where you build bridges
23:45.25Zoldenand details have some math model
23:46.09Zoldenlooks real, when a too heavy car passes a river through your bridge, and it can't hold it and destroys
23:46.55Zoldenor when you can add a misile launcher to you car, but it has a mass and momentum, so you accelarate slower, and car spins on turns
23:47.20Zoldenmario concept can have some fun physics additions
23:47.55DeadZerglingsorry, can't hear you over the sound of your overwhelming support of pseudo-physics
23:49.12Zoldenyou can lower gravity, mario jumps higher, still physics
23:49.33Zoldenphysics is about maths, not constants
23:51.02DeadZerglingmario is an extremely bad example for that.  He does some really, not physics related things
23:51.13DeadZerglinglike he jumps up at a constant rate, and falls at a constant rate
23:53.54DeadZerglingname me one decent game that doesn't use pseudo physics
23:54.22DeadZerglingby the way, units respawning/appearing out of nothing is also pseudo physics
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23:59.23Bountypeow
23:59.51DeadZerglinghey Bounty, me and Zolden were just discussing how great pseudo physics are for video games.

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