| 00:02.50 | DeadZergling | damn, now I'm not sure if I want stick with the old name |
| 00:03.15 | DeadZergling | Horologium Super-Cluster RPG really doesn't fit too well with what happens, at all |
| 00:04.16 | DeadZergling | so dead in here lately, did someone's cat die again? |
| 00:20.56 | anarch | zolden |
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| 01:43.43 | DeadZergling | you awake anarch ? |
| 01:51.38 | DeadZergling | oh well, guess i'll click this silly thing: http://videogamena.me/ |
| 01:51.49 | DeadZergling | having an identity crisis for my RPG |
| 02:05.23 | DeadZergling | Morbidly Obese Mutant Temple, someone needs to make that... |
| 02:28.49 | pirate | DZ please tell me youre using layouts for UI |
| 02:30.41 | DeadZergling | given that I'm not sure what you mean by that, probably not, and not gonna do it over again at this point |
| 02:31.21 | pirate | creating UI via panels and layout files (xml) instead of trigger based dialogs |
| 02:31.56 | pirate | this GREATLY increases UI development speed because of the in game UI editor |
| 02:32.05 | DeadZergling | yea, the benefits of the in game UI editor came later than when I started |
| 02:32.11 | pirate | Shift + Ctrl +F12 or some such |
| 02:32.16 | DeadZergling | it did help me get my tooltips in order though |
| 02:32.55 | pirate | you would hate UI much less if you start with layouts and hooked up panels from the start =P |
| 02:33.16 | DeadZergling | oh I don't know, I hated it plenty just getting tooltips to work with that damned xml |
| 02:33.55 | DeadZergling | the way I'm doing a lot of it isn't the worst ever, I'm lining everything up how I want ahead of time in GIMP so I don't have to monkey with it later |
| 02:34.15 | DeadZergling | works out since I'm redoing the entirety of the UI graphics style |
| 02:35.43 | DeadZergling | but yea, too late for me pirate, WAYYYYY too late, lol. I'd rather get this over with, then move onto unity or a new engine |
| 02:35.54 | DeadZergling | one where my creations might see the light of day |
| 02:36.43 | pirate | not working on RTC 2.0 game? |
| 02:37.21 | DeadZergling | Don't think I will this time, no. |
| 02:38.06 | DeadZergling | Could change my mind in a month, but I'm just not really excited about it at all this time. |
| 02:38.31 | pirate | neat, the icon for this IRC page flashes on my bookmarks bar when there's activity |
| 02:38.35 | pirate | what will they think of next? |
| 02:38.53 | DeadZergling | anywho, heading home now, as fun as hanging out at work is. Maybe I'll have an epiphany and come up with a new RPG name tonight. |
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| 03:16.44 | electricprism | Has anyone create a badlands Map Texture Mod or BroodWar Doodads in SC2? |
| 03:31.36 | electricprism | is there a way to disable a race from the arcade selection |
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| 09:47.42 | Rommper | http://www.moddb.com/mods/chronicles-of-azeroth/news/warcraft-1-black-morass-released-on-europian-server |
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| 12:29.38 | Goa_ | sc2 editor question, is there a way to dynamically change command car button color? |
| 12:32.17 | duckies | I wish I had command car, I'd command the quack out of it |
| 12:33.33 | duckies | your question is unclear goa, you mean change colors like between T/P/Z colorization, or just change buttons images? |
| 12:33.51 | Goa_ | :D |
| 12:34.06 | Goa_ | best if I could tint it |
| 12:34.11 | duckies | well |
| 12:34.13 | Goa_ | maybe by hookup |
| 12:34.19 | duckies | you can hook those buttons, yes |
| 12:35.20 | duckies | wut are you doing in sc2 again? |
| 12:35.29 | Goa_ | Updating Entropy TD |
| 12:36.19 | duckies | btw, you're a legend goa :3 |
| 12:36.20 | duckies | http://www.reddit.com/r/tya/comments/314aug/tya_vs_goa/ |
| 12:37.41 | Goa_ | If I would hookup command card buttons, then it would change for all the units, hmm |
| 12:37.51 | Goa_ | I didnt thought this through |
| 12:38.44 | Goa_ | pff he has reddit subforum |
| 12:39.47 | duckies | seeing how he's remainging a heavyweight map I can imagine it actually being used after a while |
| 12:39.55 | duckies | *remaking |
| 12:40.51 | duckies | I dunno what else you can do then =( Catalog hookup image change is also global |
| 12:41.26 | duckies | how about multiple buttons and a whole lot of work?:D |
| 12:44.14 | Goa_ | yeah |
| 12:44.19 | Goa_ | that what will happen |
| 12:44.45 | Goa_ | but I will just need to change button image once |
| 12:47.03 | Goa_ | also replied to that on reddit.D |
| 12:48.10 | Goa_ | btw how the hack you find such stuff on reddit?:D |
| 12:50.02 | duckies | I was just checing reviews on random maps, one such map was his map, and in website link he had reddit link |
| 12:50.30 | duckies | in the beginning that place was super lonely and miserable, but it's better now, which is good :3 |
| 12:58.38 | Goa_ | :) |
| 12:59.47 | Goa_ | 22 command card icon exported |
| 13:00.01 | Goa_ | now I just need to make 110 from them:D |
| 13:00.16 | duckies | altho, misery is debateable, when you have players "bro"-ing you telling you how to make your game |
| 13:00.29 | duckies | a time well spent goa! :D |
| 13:01.12 | Goa_ | yeah |
| 13:01.29 | Goa_ | like yesterday when I made similar amount images for app store.... |
| 13:01.57 | duckies | monkeywork, monkeywork neer changes.. |
| 13:02.04 | duckies | *never |
| 13:02.29 | duckies | the only thing that changes is the degree of my spelling incompetency D: |
| 13:02.51 | duckies | and a whole lot of other things.. |
| 13:03.05 | duckies | yeah.. . i didn't hink that one through |
| 13:03.08 | duckies | t_t |
| 13:04.25 | duckies | hm, maybe I too should have a female nick. Maybe then I'll start to get productive :< |
| 13:05.58 | beth | I can feel the productivity flowing through! |
| 13:06.16 | beth | It never felt so wrong before :< |
| 13:06.39 | meth | this is strange.. |
| 13:07.52 | Goa_ | :D |
| 13:07.56 | d_ck-es | glag I got thtough that in one piece! |
| 13:08.19 | Goa_ | duckies could female as much as male |
| 13:09.31 | d_ck-es | :o you're right, "ducky" can be pretty unisex |
| 13:09.59 | d_ck-es | oh wow, so dtd can be viewed as a female duck |
| 13:11.04 | d_ck-es | hm, it suddenly makes more sense, all those cases of people being confused over my gender in sc2 |
| 13:11.23 | d_ck-es | I see.. so that's the reason why I do have at least 1 released map |
| 13:11.33 | d_ck-es | everything is so clear now.. |
| 13:11.41 | Goa_ | can sc2 handle files with same name different directory? |
| 13:12.07 | d_ck-es | probably? |
| 13:12.29 | Goa_ | will make my day very easy.D |
| 13:12.32 | d_ck-es | it asks to replace them when paths overlap, but other than than I've never had any issues |
| 13:12.34 | d_ck-es | keke |
| 13:16.46 | Goa_ | ohh |
| 13:16.48 | Goa_ | you cant |
| 13:17.06 | Goa_ | thats why they have names with so many prefixes:D |
| 13:17.25 | Goa_ | it actually imports the file but you see the old files instead of new |
| 13:17.36 | d_ck-es | (â¯Â°â¡Â°)â¯ï¸µ â»ââ» |
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| 13:34.48 | Zolden | TwoDie http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1386142507004908 |
| 13:35.29 | Goa_ | Zolden http://www.openculture.com/2015/03/philip-k-dick-makes-off-the-wall-predictions-for-the-future.html |
| 13:50.40 | Zolden | Goa_ there's indeed a chance phlip dick managed to switch reality with a novel he's writing, so we live in it |
| 13:51.01 | Zolden | that's his kind of magic |
| 13:56.28 | Goa_ | His magic is obsolete on me |
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| 14:29.31 | Goa_ | Zolden now that I am updating Entropy TD, I program in it so much better after all these Unity experience:D |
| 14:34.57 | TwoDie | cool some chase been near my living area and i didnt even knew |
| 14:34.58 | TwoDie | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KK8jt_g6MK0 |
| 14:35.08 | TwoDie | only heard some sirens |
| 14:35.18 | TwoDie | but didnt though it was that cool |
| 14:37.50 | Goa_ | Rofl |
| 14:37.58 | Goa_ | that kamikaze cop stop |
| 14:38.20 | Goa_ | anyway what kind of idiot tries to out run cops with a Volkswagen transporter? |
| 14:39.33 | TwoDie | drunk idiot |
| 14:39.50 | Zolden | Goa_ it's understandable, but questionable: how a person can tolerate galaxy after C# |
| 14:40.08 | Goa_ | its hard:D |
| 14:40.35 | Goa_ | though not so hard after iOS didnt like my LINQ code. |
| 14:44.58 | Zolden | TwoDie what was in that car? drugs? |
| 14:45.11 | TwoDie | idk |
| 14:45.13 | TwoDie | dont care |
| 14:45.26 | Zolden | yea, you say you dont' care |
| 14:45.35 | Zolden | maybe it was your drugs |
| 14:45.43 | Zolden | and you don't want to show you're involved |
| 15:23.31 | Goa_ | Zolden new tower icons by cost in Entropy TD: http://pasteboard.co/2of09Sdp.png :D |
| 15:30.33 | Zolden | nice, you learned blending options :) |
| 16:15.35 | Goa_ | what? |
| 16:15.58 | Goa_ | what blending option? |
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| 16:18.36 | TwoDie | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tDSC8GsOhc |
| 16:18.39 | TwoDie | some niggas |
| 16:19.23 | TwoDie | some space action https://youtu.be/pHwEI7PKorE |
| 16:32.30 | Goa_ | Looks crap compared to HW remastered:D |
| 16:41.19 | TwoDie | turn based vs rts :O |
| 16:44.11 | Zolden | someone make poop based rts |
| 17:13.49 | anarch | damn NY police removed the statue of Snowden from the park :( |
| 17:14.07 | anarch | they say its illegal for people to put up statues without approval |
| 17:15.27 | Zolden | anarch wtf, police is hired by people to fight crime, if people want to have fun by placing a statue, why the fuck they care |
| 17:32.49 | anarch | i dont know :( i think they don't appreciate the show of support for him in our country because the government considers him a traitor |
| 17:35.36 | Zolden | well, this is better than what they could do, they could stage one more 9/11 to scare people of terrorist and acquit internet eavesdropping |
| 17:39.54 | TwoDie | they all ded http://i.imgur.com/IxlXJzb.gifv |
| 17:41.32 | Zolden | i miss summer ;/ |
| 17:43.17 | anarch | Zolden: this is a real and scary prospect. Let us hope they will not do something like that |
| 17:44.30 | Zolden | anarch yesterday there was AMA on reddit http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/31om1d/we_are_julian_assange_sarah_harrison_renata_avila/ |
| 17:44.39 | Zolden | they say fun stuff |
| 17:45.06 | Zolden | "A powerful, invisible, intangible, complex, global system, with a scale only the deeply numerate can appreciate has been erected" |
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| 19:11.37 | DeadZergling | maybe someone is awake this time of day in here |
| 19:12.28 | DeadZergling | you still obsessing over making evolution do your path finding for you Zolden ? |
| 19:13.35 | Zolden | yea, alot |
| 19:13.44 | Zolden | next experiment will abe about fights |
| 19:14.22 | DeadZergling | Presidential fighting? Abe Lincoln takes on the Washington? |
| 19:16.02 | Zolden | just a little exosystem with 2 evolving species, where survival will require launching projectiles |
| 19:16.53 | Zolden | if you were creating your death tv in unity the success of this experiment would mean, that you can create some nice ai's |
| 19:17.25 | DeadZergling | people complain about stupid AI, but is a case of not knowing what they want too I think. |
| 19:17.40 | DeadZergling | as many complain right away about an enemy not being predictable enough |
| 19:18.43 | Zolden | not predictable is rather a positive property |
| 19:19.01 | Zolden | TwoDie http://i.imgur.com/Kb4oBpH.jpg?1 |
| 19:19.05 | DeadZergling | I agree, but it is a complaint users have |
| 19:19.41 | DeadZergling | so unless amazing AI is a primary game goal |
| 19:20.01 | DeadZergling | the monsters being fun/hard whatever is fine |
| 19:21.40 | Goa_ | PFFF http://pasteboard.co/2ouCwKsb.png |
| 19:23.50 | DeadZergling | what an amazingly bland, boring request Goa_ , lol |
| 19:24.06 | Goa_ | agreed |
| 19:24.15 | Goa_ | I wont even reply to such shit |
| 19:24.46 | DeadZergling | send him a map where all players get 1 marine |
| 19:24.56 | DeadZergling | that's it |
| 19:27.05 | Zolden | Goa_ I see you got russian friends |
| 19:28.42 | DeadZergling | so Zolden , I'm close to having most the UI in my RPG match |
| 19:29.23 | DeadZergling | is a little on the bland side in some regards, but it will all be bland the same way |
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| 19:46.55 | TwoDie | tits |
| 19:47.27 | DeadZergling | on a bull |
| 19:47.50 | TwoDie | goa |
| 19:47.56 | TwoDie | sir, im ur brother |
| 19:47.56 | DeadZergling | way |
| 19:48.28 | TwoDie | giff me ur map to me for 1 day |
| 19:50.37 | Goa_ | for only 1 day? |
| 19:51.07 | Goa_ | btw TwoDie did you start playing around with Unity? |
| 19:51.22 | TwoDie | http://i.imgur.com/2wLU4yV.jpg |
| 19:51.28 | TwoDie | no |
| 19:51.31 | TwoDie | im ded |
| 19:51.37 | TwoDie | on doing shit for life now :/ |
| 19:51.53 | TwoDie | any creative work last done is sc2 mapmaking for other guy |
| 19:55.53 | TwoDie | http://i.imgur.com/TUoQC.jpg |
| 19:58.36 | TwoDie | http://i.imgur.com/A1DSgdI.jpg |
| 19:58.52 | TwoDie | btw whats that about that unity question |
| 19:59.40 | Goa_ | Just wondering if you will do something interesting, but nope:D |
| 20:00.13 | TwoDie | :D |
| 20:00.15 | TwoDie | sry |
| 20:06.53 | TwoDie | cancer chat and stream http://www.twitch.tv/forsenlol |
| 20:11.06 | Goa_ | that priest has the deck setup that I use |
| 20:12.47 | Goa_ | pff somebody donated 15k$ to this idiot? |
| 20:14.57 | Zolden | TwoDie you finished that protoss slut? |
| 20:16.00 | TwoDie | no |
| 20:16.04 | TwoDie | this new pc |
| 20:16.12 | TwoDie | doesnt have 3ds |
| 20:16.21 | TwoDie | really fucked any progress to be made |
| 20:16.29 | TwoDie | with all the laziness |
| 20:16.42 | TwoDie | goa all the gay fucks gets money for free |
| 20:17.05 | TwoDie | u do shiet |
| 20:17.10 | TwoDie | and u get free moneys :O |
| 20:17.14 | TwoDie | gl hf gn |
| 20:17.15 | Zolden | which max11 you installed? the one from rutracker? |
| 20:17.28 | Zolden | oh penis |
| 20:18.10 | Goa_ | :D |
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| 21:30.05 | DeadZergling | hurray, Bounty is back, we just had a major koolaid spill on the counter! |
| 21:30.37 | Bounty | I'll take, an overly repeated joke that is never really that funny for $20 Alex. |
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| 21:40.59 | Zolden | wow nerds from Crimea must be disappointed with putin's politics |
| 21:41.16 | Zolden | blizzard closed access to bnet for them |
| 21:42.13 | Rommper | lol |
| 21:42.22 | Rommper | seriously? |
| 21:42.22 | Zolden | and anyone, who has (or will have?) "Crimea" in bnet account, will not be able to play on bnet |
| 21:42.37 | Zolden | yes, it's in the news, and it's not april'1 now |
| 21:45.49 | Rommper | this is sucks |
| 21:45.56 | Bounty | Why would they do that? |
| 21:46.24 | Rommper | So because political fistfighting ppl won't be able to play with their hard earned stuff from Crimea |
| 21:46.28 | Rommper | good job.... |
| 21:47.12 | Bounty | Does Putin have any assassination attempts under his belt? |
| 21:47.14 | Bounty | lol |
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| 21:48.29 | Zolden | yea, I don't see much logic here |
| 21:48.58 | Zolden | probably blizzard would be fined for refusing to do this |
| 21:49.10 | Zolden | but why would obama need this |
| 21:49.27 | Zolden | maybe his noob son was beaten by a crimean player? |
| 21:50.10 | Bounty | Who made this ruling Zolden? |
| 21:50.48 | Zolden | blizzard did because goverment said to |
| 21:50.56 | Tomura | te d |
| 21:51.01 | Tomura | oh sry |
| 21:51.02 | Bounty | hmm |
| 21:51.25 | Bounty | I suspect something more sinister is behind such a ruling then at first glance. |
| 21:53.31 | Bounty | First thing that comes to mind for me is the US government wants to cut off a forum of communication/discussion with Crimea to the world. |
| 21:54.00 | Torhal | Nah - trade sanctions. |
| 21:54.03 | Torhal | That happens. |
| 21:54.07 | Zolden | yea |
| 21:54.38 | Bounty | Trade Sanctions are meant to hurt their economy, this does not accomplish that. lol |
| 21:54.47 | Bounty | Only hurts Blizzards. |
| 21:54.57 | Torhal | Dunno, mang |
| 21:55.17 | Torhal | "In December 2014, several US companies, including Apple, Amazon, MasterCard and Visa ceased their business activities in Crimea following US President Barrack Obama's authorization of an economic embargo against the peninsula." |
| 21:55.18 | Zolden | not only economy, also mood of people, so whey would blame putin |
| 21:56.26 | Bounty | Really short sighted decision IMO |
| 21:56.39 | Bounty | What about the people who live in crimea who have done nothing wrong? |
| 21:56.56 | Bounty | But of course, I'm sure that never crossed Obamas mind lol |
| 21:58.31 | DeadZergling | Eh, at least he is doing 'something' |
| 21:58.59 | Bounty | Not really effective though |
| 21:59.01 | DeadZergling | beats his typical strategy of playing golf |
| 21:59.04 | Bounty | Just makes us look like assholes |
| 21:59.16 | DeadZergling | we are assholes, didn't you hear? |
| 21:59.37 | Bounty | More then likely, there is propaganda going around in that area that is making them hate us for doing this and praising putin lol |
| 21:59.39 | DeadZergling | and if you are white, you are also entitled and racist and a rapist |
| 22:00.50 | DeadZergling | well of course, Putin is much like Obama was his first 4 years or so |
| 22:00.50 | Bounty | You're entitled if you're of any race and poor DeadZergling >.< |
| 22:01.07 | DeadZergling | had complete control of the media |
| 22:01.25 | Zolden | I made a dragoon from immortal http://i.imgur.com/jFjDj1l.jpg |
| 22:01.45 | DeadZergling | is everything okay, Zolden ? |
| 22:01.45 | Bounty | I'm just surprised the Russian people don't see through that bullshit... they should know better |
| 22:01.55 | Bounty | They've been through this so many times and revolted lol |
| 22:02.06 | Zolden | DeadZergling why |
| 22:02.12 | DeadZergling | Democrats often don't in US, people as a whole are as dumb as sheep |
| 22:02.24 | DeadZergling | you are modeling.... you doing the triggers too? |
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| 22:02.31 | Zolden | Bounty tv propaganda works good |
| 22:03.03 | Bounty | I know but Russians have seen that shit so many times that I would think they know its bullshit |
| 22:03.04 | Zolden | DeadZergling no, triggers would be too much. I just was asked to do this kindly |
| 22:03.29 | DeadZergling | I see, just know you had extremely negative things to say about modeling before :) |
| 22:04.13 | Zolden | well, there have been said negative things about hitler, and now everybody likes him |
| 22:04.23 | Bounty | Russia overthrew the damn Czar, if they don't like Putin... should be no problem lol |
| 22:04.54 | Bounty | Nobody likes Hitler as a whole lol |
| 22:04.54 | Zolden | Bounty revolts are deadly here, people tired and want peaceful prosperous life |
| 22:05.11 | Bounty | Is that possible though Zolden? |
| 22:05.26 | Bounty | to have a peaceful and prosperous life |
| 22:05.52 | Zolden | yea, they have it now and want no more ;/ |
| 22:06.10 | Bounty | Oh, I thought Russia was mostly in poverty. |
| 22:06.51 | Zolden | there is no culure of governing here, goverment is extremely ineffective, and if we compare it to the western country, we will find russia in a deep butt |
| 22:07.06 | Zolden | but if we compare it to 80-s and 90-s, it's a fucking paradize |
| 22:07.34 | Bounty | Yeah... the old "It could be worse" logic... |
| 22:07.39 | Bounty | shame. |
| 22:07.54 | Bounty | Nobody ever says "It should/could be better" lol |
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| 22:08.27 | Zolden | propaganda says "everything is so good, people who say anything bad about goverment as us spies" |
| 22:08.41 | Zolden | people do criticize goverment, but it doesn't work vs propaganda |
| 22:09.04 | Zolden | america is evil again |
| 22:09.07 | Bounty | I'll never understand how propaganda STILL works. |
| 22:09.29 | DeadZergling | That makes Obama very happy, Bounty |
| 22:09.30 | Bounty | Its like the oldest trick in the book and we have so many examples of it |
| 22:09.40 | Bounty | So easy to spot. |
| 22:10.21 | Bounty | What makes him happy DeadZergling? |
| 22:10.24 | *** join/#sc2mapster ArcanePariah (~Thunderbi@99-8-167-79.lightspeed.futnca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 22:10.32 | Bounty | That Russia hates us again? |
| 22:10.35 | DeadZergling | people not understanding how propaganda works |
| 22:10.48 | Bounty | lol |
| 22:10.50 | Zolden | it's simple, Bounty, it utilizes primitive and old instincts, so it will always work |
| 22:11.01 | Bounty | the anti obama propaganda is far more in motion then the pro obama |
| 22:11.08 | Zolden | cause we are animals, some pre-programmed behaviors make us do stupid things |
| 22:11.27 | Bounty | Ok, I'll accept that Zolden |
| 22:11.30 | Bounty | but my question is |
| 22:11.36 | DeadZergling | fool is still in the white house, so it must not be too effective |
| 22:11.38 | Bounty | How do revolutions ever get started? |
| 22:11.43 | Zolden | Bounty russia doesn't hate, but it is pushed to do by the goverment media |
| 22:11.54 | Bounty | I think its safe to assume propaganda has ALWAYS been around, in before TV |
| 22:12.03 | Bounty | I've always wondered how revolutions ever happened. |
| 22:12.07 | Zolden | ans some very primitive people blame obama for ruining their lives |
| 22:12.11 | Zolden | so funny |
| 22:12.14 | Bounty | Like, what part of the brain just fired off for everyone. |
| 22:12.57 | Zolden | dunno, amybe toothlessness of the goverment? |
| 22:12.58 | DeadZergling | he didn't ruin anything, or make the pot of problems. But he has spared no effort in taking as many shits in the pot as he can |
| 22:13.10 | Bounty | I'd rather have Obama in the whitehouse then Hillary Clinton DeadZergling |
| 22:13.22 | DeadZergling | I'd rather have Bill Clinton back |
| 22:13.25 | DeadZergling | then either |
| 22:13.25 | Zolden | hitlary clinton |
| 22:13.38 | Bounty | Every revolution I know of was against a pretty powerful government Zolden |
| 22:14.20 | DeadZergling | things have to get bad enough that many are willing to kill over it |
| 22:14.23 | Zolden | whe wants to sit in white house and have her clit sucked by a young interne boy |
| 22:14.27 | Zolden | *she |
| 22:14.53 | Bounty | Yeah DeadZergling, but I wonder what the line is |
| 22:14.57 | Bounty | and what part of the brain just fires off |
| 22:14.58 | DeadZergling | do i think the country is fucked and going to hell, absolutely. Am I willing to put anything on the line over it, nope! |
| 22:15.09 | Bounty | If we're controlled by the brain, and then suddenly freed by it |
| 22:15.15 | Bounty | so odd |
| 22:15.20 | Zolden | dunno, read books, this question must have covered alot |
| 22:15.29 | DeadZergling | Books are the devil! |
| 22:15.37 | Bounty | lol |
| 22:15.50 | Bounty | and yeah DeadZergling, that mentality is why its going to hell |
| 22:16.12 | DeadZergling | my thinking of books being evil has no connection to Arkansas or New Jersey though |
| 22:16.14 | Bounty | Nobody wants to risk their life for it, and I guess its kinda understandable |
| 22:16.38 | Bounty | brb shower |
| 22:16.40 | ArcanePariah | Bounty: in general, when people THINK they have nothing to lose. |
| 22:16.52 | DeadZergling | I just don't like the notion of reading everyone else's ideas on a subject instead of having your own. |
| 22:17.01 | Bounty | Good point ArcanePariah |
| 22:17.09 | Bounty | I think I'll be there in a few years |
| 22:17.10 | Bounty | lol |
| 22:17.13 | Bounty | neways brb |
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| 22:57.04 | DeadZergling | so Bounty , I'm down to about 2-3 dialogs to completely redo now |
| 22:57.19 | DeadZergling | maybe 3-4, but nearly there. |
| 22:59.08 | Bounty | It better look amazing with all this work you're putting in. :) |
| 23:00.05 | DeadZergling | oh, it will, amazingly bland, lol |
| 23:02.32 | DeadZergling | but according to Zolden , that is a good thing |
| 23:02.33 | Zolden | in unity it would look amazing immediately |
| 23:04.03 | DeadZergling | had to replace some borders in the last redo, I accidentally did an image illusion, was a pixel perfect rectangle |
| 23:04.07 | DeadZergling | but it looked skewed, lol |
| 23:16.01 | Zolden | in unity there's "pixel perfect" checkbox on ui elements |
| 23:32.07 | anarch | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:32.34 | Zolden | hey |
| 23:32.52 | anarch | hey |
| 23:32.56 | anarch | 1 moment please |
| 23:33.43 | Zolden | yea? |
| 23:34.24 | anarch | http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=23170 |
| 23:34.46 | anarch | so i have build the traveling salesman problem as you have suggested |
| 23:34.57 | anarch | and i have an adequate solution which solves the problem, using natural selection |
| 23:35.08 | anarch | however, i use asexual reproduction, with no crossover or anything |
| 23:35.16 | anarch | do you have any suggestions or reccomendation in this area? |
| 23:36.07 | Zolden | I think for this model simple reproduction based on cloning + mutation works jsut fine |
| 23:36.09 | anarch | the current algorithm is using a population of n creatures, each creature represents a path. only the best creature in the population (shortest path) moves ot the next round |
| 23:36.26 | anarch | it mutates this victorious creature to replace all of the losers |
| 23:36.32 | anarch | using 1 of 3 mutation functions |
| 23:36.36 | anarch | swap, move, reverserange |
| 23:37.02 | Zolden | good |
| 23:37.02 | anarch | So you think no need for sexual reproduction with this problem? |
| 23:37.24 | Zolden | lemme think |
| 23:38.17 | Zolden | yea, it's better to solve something more complex with sexual reproduction |
| 23:38.27 | anarch | ok |
| 23:38.31 | Zolden | this one seems fitting the cloning based one too much |
| 23:38.49 | anarch | also i have to say it was fun building this experiment, and i learned a good deal while doing so. so thank you for the suggestion. |
| 23:39.12 | Zolden | glad you had fun |
| 23:39.24 | Zolden | and this is one of the classical tasks for GA |
| 23:39.57 | Zolden | now with your experience you can create something more complex, and theat will be even funnier, I suppoe |
| 23:40.09 | anarch | yes i think so |
| 23:40.21 | Zolden | do you have any tasks in mind? |
| 23:40.25 | anarch | do you have something specific you would recommend as a next step, or am i to figure something myself? |
| 23:40.47 | Zolden | well, you could try to find a task for you |
| 23:40.52 | Zolden | I think you will |
| 23:41.17 | anarch | ok |
| 23:42.15 | Zolden | why is some of those lines on your image have differnet heights, adn some are equal? |
| 23:42.53 | Zolden | also, do you code on C#? |
| 23:43.43 | anarch | you mean how some are skinnier and some get thicker? i have no idea, i was wondering that myself. i have start width and end width both set to .05 |
| 23:43.55 | anarch | yes, it is in c#. i have more experience with C and C++, so C# is sort of new to me |
| 23:44.03 | anarch | but its easy to learn it, very similar |
| 23:44.29 | anarch | also some things about unity were strange |
| 23:45.20 | Zolden | yes, I moved to C# from C++ without a single problem |
| 23:45.38 | Zolden | just learned a couple of things, like ref or out keywords |
| 23:45.49 | Zolden | what was strange about unity? |
| 23:45.50 | anarch | yes, i can tell you were from c/++ |
| 23:45.58 | anarch | when i looked at your code |
| 23:46.01 | anarch | ok well |
| 23:47.08 | anarch | it would not let me make separate classes that was not a monobehavior. in a separate file i mena. if a class is in it's own file, it has to be a monobehavior and can not be instantiated with "new" keyword |
| 23:47.30 | anarch | so for instance, i have a Chromosome class, where i can .SetGenes() .GetGenes() and mutation functions |
| 23:47.35 | Zolden | oh, I got, why line renderer has thin parts |
| 23:47.40 | anarch | oh? why is it? |
| 23:48.19 | Zolden | node's orientation. i's facing i+1's |
| 23:49.06 | Zolden | you can create a new class, but you won't be able to add it as a component |
| 23:49.44 | Zolden | just create a new C# script and remove "MonoBehavior" from class name |
| 23:50.05 | Zolden | and that will be ok about being created with new |
| 23:50.40 | Zolden | also, some namespaces are not accessible in non-monobehavior classes |
| 23:50.48 | anarch | i thought i tried that but i will try |
| 23:53.11 | anarch | yes it is working now. strange |
| 23:53.28 | anarch | this is how i expected it to work. perhaps i accidentally left in unity namespace previously |
| 23:53.41 | Zolden | yea, maybe |
| 23:53.47 | anarch | hm.. about the lines |
| 23:53.54 | anarch | i don't understand what you mean with i+1 orientation |
| 23:54.03 | Zolden | lines have points |
| 23:54.09 | anarch | yes |
| 23:54.24 | Zolden | if you have 3 points, you have 3 "nodes", start, middle and end |
| 23:54.46 | Zolden | middle one will "look" at the end always, while start will "look" at the middle |
| 23:55.09 | Zolden | if there's a sharp angle in the middle, the first segment will be thin near middle |
| 23:55.19 | anarch | oh i see |
| 23:56.08 | anarch | so this would be unavoidable unless i used several separate lines |
| 23:56.18 | Zolden | i'd like it work smarter, with a fair rotation instead of preferrring one of them |
| 23:56.25 | Zolden | yes |
