| 00:47.19 | DeadZergling | so quiet in here lately |
| 00:50.22 | Bounty | Indeed |
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| 00:51.58 | testtest | test |
| 00:52.16 | anarch | test |
| 01:04.15 | DeadZergling | must be the ominous silent suffering of everyone knowing my tooltip boxes are still terrible |
| 01:11.39 | anarch | sorry zergling =( |
| 01:15.51 | DeadZergling | it'll get resolved eventually, just prefer not to have to wait so long |
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| 01:26.35 | DeadZergling | anyways, time to go home, laters channel :) |
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| 01:40.12 | anarch | hi |
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| 01:44.09 | anarch | test |
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| 01:45.39 | anarch | test |
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| 01:46.49 | anarch | test |
| 01:46.54 | anarch | yay :D |
| 01:58.16 | ArcanePariah | lol |
| 01:58.19 | ArcanePariah | http://sea.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/18446033 |
| 01:58.43 | ArcanePariah | I see someone is treating IRC as a play sand box... |
| 01:58.46 | ArcanePariah | Carry on. |
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| 07:06.52 | Daara | Been awhile nerds. |
| 07:06.54 | Daara | How's it going? |
| 07:12.30 | Daara | http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h205/Daara/Garrison%20Wars%20Weapons_zpsrfkkg5jr.png |
| 07:12.33 | Daara | http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h205/Daara/Garrison%20Wars%20Ingame%20Mining_zpsvb5xjafn.png |
| 07:12.42 | Daara | http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h205/Daara/Garrison%20Wars%20Armors_zpserircrji.png |
| 07:12.49 | Daara | http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h205/Daara/Garrison%20Wars%20Hair%20Colors_zpsf4rytucn.png |
| 07:12.59 | Daara | http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h205/Daara/Garrison%20Wars%20Embersilk_zpsltzaasbq.png |
| 07:13.11 | Daara | http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h205/Daara/Garrison%20Wars%20Ingame%202_zpsfm6yt5xs.png |
| 07:13.23 | Daara | http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h205/Daara/Garrison%20Wars%20Ingame%201_zpsmfmsdkb1.png |
| 07:13.46 | Daara | http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h205/Daara/Garrison%20Wars%20Ingame%203_zpsbn6pg5on.png |
| 07:14.07 | Daara | I better see some badass RPG's when I release my RPG mod |
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| 07:34.09 | pirate | congrats on wow models? |
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| 08:10.51 | Daara | you realize that it's just 1 model that can be customized in game right? |
| 08:11.26 | Daara | can change hair colors, hair style, armor, weapons, shields, shoulders, helmets all by just adding/removing a behavior |
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| 08:20.12 | pirate | Arcane would be interested |
| 08:23.18 | Daara | they have every animation from wow so you can do just about anything with them |
| 08:23.45 | Daara | it will be a great fantasy rpg kit |
| 08:24.22 | Daara | warlods of draenor textures look pretty nice in sc2 as well |
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| 11:45.50 | Zolden | Goa_ look, how wonderfully racist http://i.imgur.com/M0nTeHQ.jpg |
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| 12:41.57 | Casper_ | will there be 2 separate editor in lotv, the old one and the lotv one? |
| 12:43.17 | anarch | lotv will probably just add stuff to the existing editor |
| 12:43.24 | anarch | the same way hots works i would imagine |
| 12:58.12 | duckies | why would there be 2 different editors? :o |
| 12:59.27 | Zolden | duckies I think it's a wrong speculation |
| 13:01.56 | duckies | I think it makes little sense, they'll probably just do same thing they did with wol->hots, which is, just add even more gb of assets into client, no matter if you have license or not |
| 13:05.42 | duckies | besides, you'll need all previous dependencies for the arcade anyway |
| 13:06.48 | duckies | so yea, it's just a "please buy wol, you don't even need to waste cash on unrelevant products anymore~!" |
| 13:07.02 | duckies | *irrelevant |
| 13:11.07 | Zolden | http://fdzeta.com/subir/images/Qbe43.jpg |
| 13:15.09 | duckies | dear god zolden, I'm on work |
| 13:16.10 | duckies | altho, still close to somewhat discussed topic today |
| 13:16.20 | duckies | sighs |
| 13:16.21 | duckies | v_v |
| 13:16.59 | Goa_ | :D |
| 13:18.11 | Zolden | duckies sorry, this http://www.yaoi-toons.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/1240383995293.jpg |
| 13:19.50 | Merc | I'd never open any of Zolden's links while at work |
| 13:19.59 | Merc | that would just be crazy |
| 13:20.05 | duckies | the url clearly doesn't give away context this time v_v |
| 13:25.15 | Zolden | duckies as a person who is not familiar with wc lor cahracters, i decided to check if the joke understood correctly by me http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/general/general-chat/76743-wc3-assets-are-live/#p6 |
| 13:26.21 | Zolden | but search results not just confirmed my suspicious, they also proved, how gay wow lovers are |
| 13:31.09 | duckies | v_v |
| 13:32.05 | Zolden | A_A |
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| 15:06.59 | Zolden | anarch what is this? http://i.imgur.com/qQh6r1d.png |
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| 15:36.57 | Goa_ | Starmap? |
| 15:37.20 | Goa_ | say yes, cause I want it to be that |
| 15:42.10 | Zolden | better! |
| 15:42.21 | Zolden | starmap doesn't require organization |
| 15:45.02 | Goa_ | it does in some fantasies, where you can jump only from a star to some specific stars |
| 15:46.51 | Zolden | from porn star to rock star, then to movie star |
| 15:53.52 | Goa_ | :D |
| 15:56.37 | anarch | Zolden: what is it? |
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| 16:01.23 | Zolden | anarch that's a first visualization attempt of the gene network |
| 16:02.30 | anarch | can you explain it to me, how it works, what it represents? |
| 16:02.30 | anarch | :D |
| 16:04.13 | Zolden | anarch I will improve visualization, then it will be more clear. Basically, there's an array of incoming data, from the sensors of the system genome controls, and also there's an array of controlling singnals, so contraollable system could do stuff |
| 16:05.27 | Zolden | example: car model has a coupe of distance sensors as a perception, and engine/wheel/breaks as a controlling signals target |
| 16:05.53 | Zolden | and genome is simply a network, taht calculates controlling response based on incoming data |
| 16:09.37 | anarch | does it work like a neural network? with weights on each node that change to adjust behavior? |
| 16:14.49 | Zolden | yes, weights are present, but they are also nodes, so everything can be affected dynamically. Also, unlike the neural netwoeks, there's no artificial thresholds, but they can appear, becasue some genes describe negative affection |
| 16:15.28 | Zolden | it's a heaven for self organisation, because it has no artificial limits |
| 16:24.57 | anarch | could you describe a super simple implementation of this? |
| 16:25.17 | anarch | like i imagine maybe 1 or 2 nodes as inputs, that input some variable about their environment |
| 16:25.21 | anarch | then some middle nodes which process the info |
| 16:25.28 | anarch | and some end nodes which determine the behavior? |
| 16:32.02 | Zolden | yea |
| 16:32.31 | Zolden | it will soon be visible on the graph when I make it look as I want |
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| 16:48.16 | anarch | awesome :D |
| 16:48.22 | anarch | keep it up :D |
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| 16:50.41 | duckies | wait |
| 16:50.52 | duckies | how do I use editor now that b-net is down? |
| 16:53.42 | Zolden | duckies go underground, untill it's up relatively to your height |
| 16:54.19 | duckies | nah, I know a better sollution, I'll just switch to unity, I bet it doesn't do that bullshit :> |
| 16:54.33 | Zolden | unity is always quackp |
| 16:54.50 | duckies | that's quacktastic~ |
| 16:55.57 | anarch | believe you can also just kind of run the editor exe from the sc2 folder |
| 16:56.47 | duckies | eh, I'm always launchit it from shortcut, not from launcher, same cockblock effect tho |
| 16:56.59 | duckies | eh, unfortunately it now allowed me to authenticat |
| 16:57.05 | duckies | what a shame |
| 17:15.00 | anarch | =( |
| 17:15.03 | anarch | so no unity =( |
| 17:18.39 | ArcanePariah | Good morning. Learned how to do auto testing for SC2. |
| 17:18.44 | ArcanePariah | Turns out to be rather easy lol |
| 17:19.12 | ArcanePariah | Can run tests of maps without editor :D |
| 17:19.12 | anarch | autotesting? |
| 17:19.22 | anarch | how does this work exactly? |
| 17:20.00 | ArcanePariah | You can invoked SC2 from the command line and tell it what map to run. Furthermore you can tell it what game attributes to use and what their values are. |
| 17:20.08 | ArcanePariah | So you can define game attribute for doing tests |
| 17:20.26 | ArcanePariah | And then have multiple test config files and run the map over and over, just changing the attribute value. |
| 17:21.04 | ArcanePariah | And since this is from command line, can script the whole process |
| 17:21.33 | ArcanePariah | Run map, use this config file, let the map do logging/debug logs, it quits on its own, run next test. |
| 17:29.01 | anarch | so i can imagine this would be nice for catching errors and things that log an issue |
| 17:29.34 | anarch | but i would imagine a lot of testing would require you to actually see whats going on, because incorrect behavior might not necessarily create errors? |
| 17:34.00 | ArcanePariah | Yes, but I was thinking of you doing your own logging |
| 17:34.05 | ArcanePariah | You can do your own logs with debug. |
| 17:34.25 | anarch | i must be missing something |
| 17:34.36 | ArcanePariah | By setting an output file. It appears in UserLogs/NameofMap in the Starcraft II directory in My Documents |
| 17:34.50 | anarch | for instance i was makind a mod before, and im not sure what valueable information i could get by auto-testing, except for detecting errors like "no animaiton for this event" etc |
| 17:35.31 | ArcanePariah | Well, consider things like unit tests |
| 17:36.03 | ArcanePariah | Right now, for my unit tests, I have to load up the editor, run test document, run each trigger, check the output. With this, I can just run a single command line thing, and be done. |
| 17:36.24 | anarch | like spawn unit A, issue move order to unit A, issue attack order to unit A, issue partol to unit A, move on and do the same with B, then C, then D... and you ca nsee if there is any problem with the any of these actions? |
| 17:36.41 | ArcanePariah | Since I could set a trigger that checks for a game attribute to be set to a given value, and if it is, run Trigger X,Y,Z,etc. |
| 17:36.46 | ArcanePariah | That is one thing yes |
| 17:37.06 | ArcanePariah | I use it to check that bank saving and loading are working correctly |
| 17:37.30 | ArcanePariah | Also I check if class creation worked properly. |
| 17:37.53 | ArcanePariah | Unit tests are meant to make sure things continue to work, even after you add more code. |
| 17:38.32 | ArcanePariah | So say I have my class creation and it works. I then build something else and suddenly my class creation breaks. The unit tests will give away what exactly breaks, so I can then debug much faster. |
| 17:43.33 | anarch | ah i see |
| 18:46.22 | Zolden | wow |
| 18:46.35 | Zolden | 2 hours wasted to find 1 little shitty simple bug |
| 18:46.49 | Zolden | gj, Zolden |
| 18:47.08 | Zolden | fuck you, noob, at least I found it! |
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| 19:01.59 | Zolden | anarch just look at these babies http://i.imgur.com/HNbmMGg.png |
| 19:04.27 | Zolden | line of 4 horizontal circles at bottom are input, 5 horizontal ones at top are output, other white circles are additional parameters, black ones are just genes, that describe connections, which are lines |
| 19:05.18 | Zolden | now I can debug genome class and start creating tasks to solve via evolution |
| 19:08.41 | Goa_ | nice |
| 19:10.55 | Goa_ | did you design anything about the enlivenment you will put it? |
| 19:11.18 | Zolden | it will happen after genome is debugged |
| 19:11.25 | Zolden | I have a list of 10 different taks |
| 19:11.36 | Zolden | something like flappy bird AI |
| 19:11.46 | Zolden | very simple environments |
| 19:12.25 | Zolden | if it show the ability to slove those by creating perfectly working controlling system, I'll make that 2d plants thing |
| 19:12.35 | Zolden | that will be real emergent evolution |
| 19:15.18 | Goa_ | nice |
| 19:18.21 | Goa_ | you will need to add something that will optimize genome or it will be infinity complex and hard to adapt to changing environment. |
| 19:21.05 | DeadZergling | won't be true evolution then Goa_ , real evolution must take millions of years! |
| 19:22.57 | Goa_ | DeadZergling depends on the environment.... |
| 19:23.10 | Zolden | Goa_ we'll see, there are already almost equal "add new genes" adn "remove existing genes" mutations, dunno, waht will win |
| 19:23.30 | Zolden | DeadZergling evolution mostly measured by the amount of generations |
| 19:23.41 | Goa_ | yeah |
| 19:24.33 | Goa_ | but at microbe level there are infinitely more generations than on animal level.... |
| 19:24.52 | Goa_ | so it also depends on environment.... |
| 19:24.58 | DeadZergling | indeed, hard to beat creating new yous every 15-30 mins |
| 19:25.18 | Zolden | Goa_ they limited by 1 cell, which doesn't give them waht multicell organisms have |
| 19:25.35 | Zolden | we can rapidly change body shape |
| 19:25.43 | DeadZergling | pretty safe to say at least half the people here haven't procreated at all |
| 19:25.46 | Zolden | they just can adapt to not die from a poison |
| 19:25.54 | Goa_ | not just time, but by amount to, there are far more microbes per species than humans ... |
| 19:26.00 | Goa_ | too* |
| 19:26.42 | DeadZergling | or adapt to live in excess of greenhouse gases, or adapt to live after a nuclear war |
| 19:26.46 | DeadZergling | the microbes will outlast us |
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| 21:23.44 | anarch | hello |
| 21:30.33 | DeadZergling | hello anarch |
| 21:31.43 | anarch | hey zergling |
| 21:31.44 | anarch | hows it going |
| 21:36.15 | DeadZergling | it goes, just slowly getting things done, even though my UI still drives me insane |
| 21:39.44 | anarch | whats the UI for again> |
| 21:39.45 | anarch | ? |
| 21:40.15 | Zolden | anarch he's stuck in sc2 editor like a monkey who took an orange in the box and can't pull it throught the narrow hole |
| 21:41.20 | anarch | lol |
| 21:43.59 | DeadZergling | just like Zolden is stuck in Russia, the same way |
| 21:44.05 | anarch | xD |
| 21:44.37 | Zolden | i'm not stuck, it's a country of absolute freedom! |
| 21:44.45 | Zolden | it's a rational choice |
| 21:44.52 | Zolden | as unity |
| 21:47.26 | anarch | so i have a text area, that functions as the irc chat box. it has rich text enabled because i am using it to display the names of the users in a different color, and i make use of <b> and <i> in the formatting |
| 21:47.30 | anarch | however |
| 21:47.42 | anarch | the irc users can type things that fucks everything up, like if they do their own <b> |
| 21:48.07 | anarch | so its a dilema because i dont want to sanitize away their > and < marks |
| 21:48.19 | anarch | but i cant have them fucking up the entire UI |
| 21:48.32 | anarch | an option is to disable richtext |
| 21:48.34 | anarch | but then no colors... |
| 21:48.38 | anarch | any creative solutions? |
| 21:49.16 | anarch | ive thought of sanitizing specifically just the rich text tags, but taking in to account obfuscation, i dont know if thats a very reliable method... |
| 21:50.13 | Zolden | you wnat users to use rich text possibilities, but also you don't want them to? |
| 21:51.07 | anarch | i dont care so much if the users in the irc chat can actually use the rich formatting. think of it like battle.net 1 from sc broodwar or warcraft. you know how the user's name shows up as yellow or some other color? |
| 21:51.13 | anarch | and when they join and leave it is italic? |
| 21:51.16 | anarch | i did something like that |
| 21:51.22 | anarch | so i need access to the rich text for my own use |
| 21:51.27 | anarch | not necessarily so the users can use it |
| 21:51.47 | anarch | but i just thought it would be weird to not allow them to type a > or < in chat (the simlest way to sanitize that i could think of) |
| 21:56.50 | anarch | it doesnt seem like unity has escape characters for the richtext area |
| 21:56.56 | anarch | because it works in a way that doesnt need them |
| 21:57.03 | anarch | example: |
| 21:57.08 | anarch | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:57.21 | anarch | that should work without escaping the > in the smiley face |
| 21:57.27 | anarch | because it's smart enough to know |
| 21:57.43 | anarch | but this means it wont be easy to just escapecharacter the > and < in user input |
| 21:57.49 | anarch | i have to actually remove or alter them |
| 21:57.53 | anarch | unless i am missing something. |
| 22:01.16 | anarch | ...i hacked together a temporary solution |
| 22:01.23 | anarch | it was the easiest and least intrusive thing i could come up |
| 22:02.17 | anarch | it just replaces ">" with " >", so they can use the symbol still but it won't allow them to close richtext tags |
| 22:04.02 | Zolden | yea, take what they type and rape it to make it not ruinative |
| 22:04.06 | Dustin|Work | Why don't you use regex and just check if there's anything between the < > and render that as RT, or even check tags |
| 22:04.11 | Dustin|Work | Does Unity not support Regex? |
| 22:04.23 | Zolden | dunno |
| 22:05.51 | Dustin|Work | Ya it does, http://answers.unity3d.com/questions/422722/regular-expressions.html |
| 22:07.00 | anarch | i think thats a good solution. my regex skills are not great but this is what google is for i suppose |
| 22:08.05 | Dustin|Work | Ya, if you told me to write a regex expression from memory or you'd shoot me in the head, well, I'd be dead. |
| 22:09.12 | Zolden | DeadZergling are you dead since someone asked you to write a regex expression? |
| 22:09.30 | DeadZergling | what, zolden? |
| 22:12.24 | Zolden | nothing, just a shitty joke |
| 22:12.39 | Zolden | i should just go back to coding stuff instead of trying to communicate with humans |
| 22:13.02 | anarch | content = Regex.Replace(content, "<.*?>", string.Empty); |
| 22:13.42 | anarch | this works to just elliminate the tages completely if they do a closed tag |
| 22:13.48 | anarch | wont touch non-closed tags though like <3 |
| 22:14.08 | anarch | i think this might be the behavior i prefer |
| 22:17.45 | DeadZergling | it'd be one thing if I understood this xml UI shit enough to tinker with it, but I don't know enough to even get started |
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| 22:18.41 | anarch | lol |
| 22:18.53 | anarch | isnt it similar to html? |
| 22:19.08 | anarch | each element has properties that you can access with html tags <> |
| 22:19.17 | DeadZergling | no, html actually has documentation of sorts... |
| 22:19.20 | anarch | heh |
| 22:19.26 | anarch | what are you getting stuck on |
| 22:19.29 | anarch | pastie it :D |
| 22:20.54 | DeadZergling | well basically, trying to resolve this joy: |
| 22:20.55 | DeadZergling | http://img.ctrlv.in/img/15/03/19/550b527ce2bf3.jpg |
| 22:21.02 | DeadZergling | paste the xml in a second |
| 22:21.23 | Daara | where can you find the option to change the console model? |
| 22:21.49 | Daara | want to change the terran console to the wc3 human one |
| 22:21.50 | DeadZergling | http://tny.cz/83a8daa5 |
| 22:21.56 | *** join/#sc2mapster unitybot (~ubot@pool-108-44-37-145.albyny.fios.verizon.net) |
| 22:22.05 | Zolden | unitybot u penis |
| 22:22.09 | anarch | hi ubot |
| 22:24.42 | Daara | i hate messing with the UI |
| 22:24.49 | Daara | i wasn't cut out for this stuff! |
| 22:25.15 | Zolden | Daara who cares about ui? |
| 22:25.21 | DeadZergling | users |
| 22:25.31 | Daara | if i'm going to have a warcraft map i want a warcraft ui! |
| 22:25.32 | anarch | DeadZergling: what's the name of the label on the left there? |
| 22:25.59 | Zolden | DeadZergling who told you so? isn't gameplay waht they care about>? |
| 22:26.06 | Daara | i had my own before but patches broke the shit out of it |
| 22:26.18 | DeadZergling | I think that is the <Frame type="CommandTooltip" name="InventoryTooltip" template="InventoryOverride/InventoryItemTooltipTemplate"> part, anarch |
| 22:26.27 | unitybot | everyone |
| 22:27.02 | DeadZergling | you'd think so Zolden, but apparently a great UI is considered gameplay |
| 22:27.03 | unitybot | Everyone knows chatting matters most!! |
| 22:27.14 | Daara | just need to find where i can find where it chooses which model to use so i can override it |
| 22:27.25 | Daara | ooops that's a horribly written sentence lol |
| 22:29.29 | DeadZergling | you'll notice the anchor for that is just horrible, isn't in relation to shit at all |
| 22:32.04 | DeadZergling | I know I want the bottom just a bit above the minimap top, but how to do that, phhhtt, not a clue |
| 22:33.54 | Daara | ui editing is a pain in the ass |
| 22:34.06 | DeadZergling | make it resize well for ratios of 1.25 to 1.8, not a clue as well |
| 22:34.41 | DeadZergling | but, I can edit text font size for the top label a bit to make it not stick out quite as much, woohoo! |
| 22:35.47 | DeadZergling | and yes Daara, it is. Inheritance, relative shit all over, along with syntax I don't understand worth a damn |
| 22:36.28 | Daara | i used images for my first ui i created |
| 22:36.36 | Daara | and had everything looking good on my end |
| 22:36.48 | Daara | and then ppl played in weird fucking resolutions and it didn't look right |
| 22:37.36 | DeadZergling | mine goes haywire under not so weird resolutions, 1280x1024 and 1280x960, lol |
| 22:39.32 | Daara | i tried to do everything like blizzard did anchored them in spots that would change with the resolutions |
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| 22:39.52 | Daara | but ppl would play in like 960x720 and things would overlap |
| 22:40.39 | Daara | honestly don't know how anyone has a monitor that isn't like atleast a normal resolution |
| 22:40.54 | Daara | or doesn't have the options to do like 1280x1024 |
| 22:41.00 | Daara | or 1280x960 |
| 22:41.36 | DeadZergling | sounds the same as my issue daara, 960x720 is a 1.33 resolution |
| 22:41.57 | DeadZergling | is the ratio, not the actual numbers that seems to trigger it |
| 22:42.06 | Daara | i was thinking about just telling ppl to stop being stupid and play in a real game resoultion |
| 22:42.38 | DeadZergling | I feel the same way, but I think being able to handle 1280x960, 1280x1024, should be a thing |
| 22:42.50 | DeadZergling | those are real game resolutions |
| 22:43.38 | Daara | gotta be able to do 1280x960, 1280x1024 |
| 22:43.50 | Daara | then probably also 1600x1024 and 1920x1024 |
| 22:44.01 | DeadZergling | those ones I had covered |
| 22:44.10 | DeadZergling | but it was screwy for the 1280s |
| 22:45.19 | DeadZergling | <=== has a serious issue of using a giant resolution and forgetting to care about normal people |
| 22:45.29 | DeadZergling | coupled with pathetic xml knowledge, not a good combo |
| 22:47.56 | DeadZergling | so anarch, have an amazing solution other than switch to fucking unity? lol |
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| 22:49.16 | Daara | changing my resolution inside sc2 crashed my computer lol |
| 22:57.49 | Bounty | So, this is a thing apparently https://codebabes.com/ |
| 23:01.16 | Zolden | Bounty nothing about C# ;/ |
| 23:01.18 | anarch | DeadZergling: without being able to test things, its hard to tell. but i would start by copying out the large chunks that are not related (like the large but with the buttons on the right) and save it elsewhere |
| 23:01.26 | anarch | and try to isolate this particlar chunk in the file |
| 23:01.46 | anarch | chances are the problem is with all of the nested frames, maybe one of them has a fucked up height/width setting |
| 23:01.51 | anarch | or maybe an anchor is fucked up |
| 23:02.01 | anarch | but it helps to narrow it down |
| 23:02.04 | anarch | to its most simple parts |
| 23:02.46 | anarch | like i see a bunch of frames that it's apparently nested inside of |
| 23:02.54 | anarch | and none of them set any size or position properties |
| 23:03.49 | anarch | i used to make websites and it would have similar formatting issues |
| 23:04.00 | anarch | so the trick was to divide out the page using <divs> |
| 23:04.07 | anarch | i imagine thats the idea behind these frames |
| 23:04.15 | anarch | however there seems to be way too many of them, or i am not understanding something |
| 23:05.10 | DeadZergling | well the bulk of the stuff underneath is just me giving instructions for 4 containers worth of buttons |
| 23:05.15 | DeadZergling | those are fine |
| 23:09.28 | anarch | ok so |
| 23:09.41 | anarch | its just the 2 frames that are inside of the other frame? |
| 23:12.53 | anarch | maybe the labels are not fitting in the horizontal space you have allocated there? |
| 23:12.57 | anarch | sometimes that causes weird behavior like that |
| 23:14.13 | DeadZergling | basically the main thing to be staring at is everything contained within <Frame type="CommandTooltip" name="InventoryItemTooltipTemplate" template="CommandButton/CommandTooltipTemplate"> |
| 23:17.32 | anarch | is InventoryItemTooltipTemplate wide enough to contain everything properly? if its not, it can cause strange things like this to happen |
| 23:18.08 | DeadZergling | well it is the damndest thing, it is plenty wide enough in resolutions with a ratio higher than 1.33 |
| 23:18.16 | DeadZergling | but as soon as you hit 1.33, somehow all the rules change |
| 23:18.36 | anarch | is that what is causing this problem? |
| 23:19.33 | DeadZergling | yea, ratio of 1.33 or less it goes to shit |
| 23:24.50 | Zolden | just check these babies http://i.imgur.com/XAfLbMr.png |
| 23:24.56 | Zolden | so much more informative graph |
| 23:25.36 | DeadZergling | grats on discovering dots, lines, and colors |
| 23:25.54 | anarch | looking good |
| 23:26.03 | anarch | i still dont know what they indicate exactly |
| 23:27.56 | Zolden | easy: color of a line - locus; color of a small dot - positive/negative affection; shape of line - kind of relationship |
| 23:28.58 | Zolden | like it takes a value - fat line, takes factor - thin line, adds - fat to thin line |
| 23:29.48 | Zolden | I'll evolve a robot and send it to america to teach people evolution |
| 23:47.57 | DeadZergling | nice link Bounty , going to be doing a lot of learning? |
| 23:48.13 | DeadZergling | school supplies, pencil, paper, lotion, several boxes of kleenex? |
| 23:57.07 | DeadZergling | hey Bounty , here is what you will see if you try to skip ahead: https://codebabes.com/sites/default/files/chris-farley-legend.png |
| 23:58.22 | DeadZergling | further, I must be pretty desperate to avoid working on my own problems to explore such a site |
