| 00:05.51 | Bounty | This is what I'm going for as a full screen portrait https://www.dropbox.com/s/lsiyguh9w2adbi1/portrait%20concept%20lol.png?dl=0 |
| 00:05.59 | Bounty | I think Delphinium can do it |
| 00:06.21 | Bounty | Can models have transparency Zolden? |
| 00:06.38 | Bounty | Like If I wanted 100% for the center circle, and about... 20% for the outer black |
| 00:07.28 | DeadZergling | the #%#%# am I looking at |
| 00:07.49 | Bounty | What I want my full screen portrait model to look like lol |
| 00:08.12 | Bounty | hand holding flashlight in the bottom left and a circle area in the center |
| 00:08.18 | Bounty | that is see through |
| 00:08.39 | Bounty | its a more advanced version of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhMVk4T7jxM |
| 00:14.11 | Bounty | Ironically, I came up with this idea from something Jademus_Sreg said like 3 years ago lol |
| 00:14.14 | Bounty | or suggested |
| 00:15.58 | Zolden | Bounty why are you calling it portrait? you can use a normal model in a dialog |
| 00:16.39 | Zolden | check this thread starting from my comment |
| 00:16.41 | Zolden | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/triggers/76187-solved-blurry-camera/ |
| 00:26.19 | Bounty | Because thats what it is Zolden |
| 00:26.21 | Bounty | same thing |
| 00:27.09 | Bounty | You use a dialog item of the portrait type |
| 00:27.24 | Bounty | or is there some other way that I am missing Zolden? |
| 00:28.09 | Zolden | modelling wise there's difference, cause portrait requires a camera |
| 00:28.47 | Bounty | Yeah, you can adjust the camera though |
| 00:28.56 | Zolden | also, it can be done without portrait type dialog item |
| 00:28.57 | Jademus_Sreg | Haha. |
| 00:28.59 | Bounty | but if there is a way to not use portraits that is more efficient, I'm all ears |
| 00:29.22 | Zolden | cutscene, for example |
| 00:29.23 | Bounty | Watchu laughin at Jademus_Sreg |
| 00:29.24 | Bounty | >.< |
| 00:30.29 | Bounty | also, when you create a model in 3DS Zolden, can you create a camera for it as well? |
| 00:30.39 | Bounty | or is that something that is done in the SC2 engine |
| 00:30.52 | Zolden | yes, model can include model camera |
| 00:31.01 | Zolden | and you can use it to see through it |
| 00:31.06 | Zolden | or for rtt |
| 00:31.15 | Bounty | ok so thats good |
| 00:31.30 | Zolden | but it's a different thing than the camera wie use in triggers |
| 00:31.44 | Bounty | I know |
| 00:32.14 | Bounty | I think portraits are the best way to go though |
| 00:32.42 | Bounty | I'm sure Delph will alert me if thats not the case. |
| 00:33.25 | Bounty | The goal is to have the ultimate first person perspective |
| 00:33.36 | Bounty | for a horror game |
| 00:35.01 | Zolden | ok |
| 00:35.07 | Bounty | So the hand holding the flashlight has to move accordingly, as does the circle (light) |
| 00:35.21 | Bounty | lol |
| 00:35.39 | Bounty | Damn ruskies. |
| 00:36.14 | DeadZergling | good thing Zolden has no part in it then, he would design a penis to hold the flashlight |
| 00:36.59 | Bounty | Not sure why I even asked honestly |
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| 00:39.36 | Bounty | Hopefully Delphinium can pull this off, not sure he has experience making something like this DeadZergling |
| 00:39.46 | pirate | Set Catalog Field Value has some very arbitrary inputs for Light Data |
| 00:46.34 | Bounty | Has anyone ever done a real first person camera? Showing arms etc |
| 01:05.13 | Gattakhan | I would think that'd be hard to pull off without the arms getting in the way. |
| 01:06.17 | Gattakhan | You'd need a huge angle on the camera to capture a semblance of peripheral vision, and with that, make the game look ridiculous. |
| 01:12.13 | Bounty | Delph seems to think its easy |
| 01:12.15 | Bounty | lol |
| 01:12.21 | Bounty | but, hes the man so... |
| 01:15.50 | Bounty | Well, hes going to do it |
| 01:15.53 | Bounty | woot |
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| 12:03.29 | Zolden | Goa_ yesterday I made a planet surface with unity 5 shader using sc2 terrain texture, worked nice http://i.imgur.com/1TQu0T1.jpg |
| 12:04.11 | Zolden | their video says it's overoptimized shader, so maybe this stuff will work ok on mobiles |
| 12:14.57 | anarch | morning |
| 12:51.38 | Zolden | lol, russian grammar nazi has been fined for nazi propaganda |
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| 14:21.42 | Goa_ | nice zolden |
| 14:22.25 | Goa_ | this week already ruined for me, always something happens that stops me from spending my time on Unity |
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| 15:41.37 | Goa_ | [15:22]Goa_nice zolden |
| 15:41.39 | Goa_ | [15:22]Goa_this week already ruined for me, always something happens that stops me from spending my time on Unity |
| 16:25.24 | Zolden | oh, that's penis |
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| 17:09.25 | Zolden | Goa_ I found a good artis, and feel so much freedom now! |
| 17:12.18 | Zolden | sc2 editor and its assets -> http://s011.radikal.ru/i317/1010/a4/8bd649c16d4a.jpg |
| 17:12.36 | Zolden | moving to unity -> http://www.christian-wallpaper.com/backgrounds/divine_lightnings_from_above_broke_a_chain_on_cloudy_sky.jpg |
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| 17:28.17 | Goa_ | :D |
| 17:29.02 | Goa_ | soon you will create the religion of unity:D |
| 17:31.57 | Zolden | yea, and twodie will be its jesus |
| 17:34.20 | Goa_ | And you will be Moses? |
| 17:35.35 | Zolden | yes, wil lead jews from sc2 editor egiptians to the holy land of unitusalim |
| 17:37.10 | Zolden | actually, people are full of irrational beliefs, so everything has a hidden microreligion |
| 17:38.05 | Goa_ | indeed |
| 17:38.32 | Zolden | "leaked screenshot of the first mobile mario game" http://i.imgur.com/PrbBslJ.jpg |
| 17:38.57 | Goa_ | haha |
| 17:39.02 | Fisker | Looks like iPhone |
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| 19:12.36 | Goa_ | Zolden Hello Google Play Developer, |
| 19:12.38 | Goa_ | To help consumers make more informed choices about their purchases on Google Play, we're introducing a new age-based rating system for apps and games consistent with industry best practices. This initiative gives you an easy way to communicate familiar and locally relevant content ratings to your users and helps improve app engagement by targeting the right audience for your content...... |
| 19:16.17 | Goa_ | Does the game contain any Nazi symbols, references, or propaganda? Learn more :DDDD |
| 19:18.08 | anarch | OH I'M SORRY - THOUGHT THIS WAS AMERICA |
| 19:18.20 | Zolden | well, every black pixel in my game is hitler moustace |
| 19:19.38 | Zolden | and every white pixel is ku klux klan cap |
| 19:20.26 | Zolden | Goa_ publishing in google play attratcs alot of fuckers who suggest to use their tools to give you billions downloads per second |
| 19:28.45 | anarch | ...i want a billions downloads a second |
| 19:28.46 | anarch | xD |
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| 20:34.14 | Bounty | peow |
| 20:38.56 | Bounty | Been awhile since we've done these stupid things DeadZergling http://bitecharge.com/play/fiveletter/h4 |
| 20:38.58 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:39.26 | Bounty | I like how "Swell" is a possible outcome. |
| 20:51.20 | DeadZergling | apparently I'm Artsy |
| 20:51.56 | DeadZergling | speaking of stupid things, Bounty , behold my old Doom2 level I made: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGJ3OYQLk9I |
| 20:51.58 | Bounty | Same, I would have preferred "Swell" though lol |
| 20:52.04 | Bounty | I saw |
| 20:52.14 | Bounty | Still getting your LPer to do shit eh? |
| 20:52.26 | DeadZergling | is pretty good value honestly |
| 20:52.42 | DeadZergling | 10 $ gets me an episode of him doing whatever I want him to |
| 20:53.22 | DeadZergling | 4-5 times a month, often more |
| 20:53.36 | Bounty | yeah but the views are eh |
| 20:53.43 | Bounty | For now at least, since hes just starting |
| 20:53.51 | DeadZergling | indeed, but views being more would cost more |
| 20:54.26 | DeadZergling | but I get entertainment value, and testing value if it is a project I'm currently working on |
| 20:54.33 | Bounty | true |
| 20:55.09 | DeadZergling | I can't wait for him to get into the later levels |
| 20:55.24 | DeadZergling | apparently I was a troll even when 12-13 |
| 20:55.33 | Bounty | lol, most of us were |
| 20:55.35 | DeadZergling | the levels are just so rude in certain parts |
| 20:56.20 | DeadZergling | but I'm almost certain the first few levels were just proof of concept |
| 20:56.27 | DeadZergling | since I hadn't linked levels together at that point |
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| 20:58.44 | DeadZergling | oh, so I'm not certain on this one, but apparently item tooltips sucks for resolution ratios of 4 to 3 (1.33) or less |
| 20:59.23 | Bounty | Why is that? |
| 20:59.40 | DeadZergling | played with the damn things to no end, never really improved that much for resolutions like that |
| 20:59.48 | DeadZergling | I have no idea, if I knew why I might be able to fix it |
| 21:00.33 | Zolden | unity |
| 21:01.00 | DeadZergling | if I can fix this problem Zolden, I'll be that much closer to switching to Unity, lol |
| 21:03.02 | Bounty | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_hFTR6qyEo |
| 21:03.04 | Bounty | >.< |
| 21:05.59 | DeadZergling | the fuck is the point of that Bounty |
| 21:06.06 | Bounty | no idea lol |
| 21:06.10 | DeadZergling | Shittiest father of the year award? |
| 21:06.30 | Bounty | Cracks me up personally haha |
| 21:06.46 | Bounty | I, DRINK, YOUR, MILKSHAKE |
| 21:13.29 | DeadZergling | such a weird analogy |
| 21:13.56 | Bounty | I guess it only makes sense if you saw the movie. |
| 21:16.39 | DeadZergling | the fuck is with the old man repeatedly needing to touch the little guy anyways |
| 21:16.47 | DeadZergling | is it a pedo movie? |
| 21:18.09 | Bounty | lol no |
| 21:40.56 | DeadZergling | pretty sure my tooltip problem will only be solved by true nerds like Arcanepariah or Jademus_Sreg |
| 21:41.59 | Jademus_Sreg | ? |
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| 21:42.34 | Jademus_Sreg | Got a screenshot, Deadz? |
| 21:42.47 | DeadZergling | I can get one, give me a moment |
| 21:43.09 | DeadZergling | but basically, for resolutions ratio 1.33, the tooltip boxes are getting screwed up |
| 21:43.14 | DeadZergling | ratio 1.33 or lower |
| 21:43.47 | Jademus_Sreg | I have a suspicion as to the cause. |
| 21:44.05 | Jademus_Sreg | Wanna confirm I've got a grasp of the problem first. |
| 21:44.34 | DeadZergling | like the tooltips look pretty good for any resolutions with a higher ratio then 1.33 |
| 21:44.52 | DeadZergling | but 1.33 and under, I got titles of items outside the boxes, that sort of thing |
| 21:45.02 | DeadZergling | give me a couple mins to get the game going, will take a screen to show you |
| 21:45.07 | Jademus_Sreg | kk |
| 21:46.07 | DeadZergling | I will get the xml as well since I know you are one of the few who like that :) |
| 21:46.19 | Jademus_Sreg | Yay. |
| 21:47.44 | DeadZergling | http://tny.cz/32168cae |
| 21:51.37 | DeadZergling | http://ctrlv.in/519258 |
| 21:52.36 | DeadZergling | http://ctrlv.in/519259 |
| 21:53.03 | DeadZergling | those 2 screens are from 1280x1024 |
| 21:54.11 | DeadZergling | http://ctrlv.in/519260 |
| 21:54.34 | DeadZergling | that is from a resolution that is working okay, it is larger than I'd like because I had to boost the max width so much so 1.33 or lower would be slightly better |
| 21:57.55 | DeadZergling | Ideally, I'd like it to only be a little more width than the item title, then adjust the rest of the text accordingly. |
| 21:58.16 | Jademus_Sreg | Pardon my delay; haven't fully extracted all my references. |
| 21:59.01 | DeadZergling | no problem, just confused on how to even start approaching this problem, let me know if you need any more details/info, I played with this quite a lot in attempts to make it work |
| 21:59.47 | Jademus_Sreg | Confirms my suspicion, both of them. |
| 22:03.27 | Jademus_Sreg | Anyway, digging around for the standard template, but either the tooltip label is exceding the max width OR the text rendering itself is buggy. I lean toward the former, because something can actually be done about that. |
| 22:04.32 | Jademus_Sreg | The rest of the text is fine, so it must be the tooltip header label or rendering of its text. |
| 22:05.25 | DeadZergling | yea is just so odd, in other ratios the boxes are supersized now, but they aren't quite enough for 1.33 or lower |
| 22:06.00 | DeadZergling | which is a problem, as I'm fairly certain a lot of people run 1280x1024 or 1280x960 |
| 22:06.10 | Jademus_Sreg | Instead of using a standard template for its template attribute value, instead you can copy the base template(s) and override their values. |
| 22:07.12 | Jademus_Sreg | Specifically the label. |
| 22:10.14 | DeadZergling | sounds great, but how that is done, just whoosh, right over my head :) |
| 22:11.45 | Jademus_Sreg | Same way you make your own templates. |
| 22:13.10 | Jademus_Sreg | Which you did, in your xml paste. |
| 22:13.35 | DeadZergling | to be clear, most of this was done by ArcanePariah , not me. I just did the playing of inner values like anchors, minheight, height, etc |
| 22:15.07 | Jademus_Sreg | Only instead of using template="CommandButton/CommandTooltipTemplate", you'd find the actual CommandTooltipTemplate, copy pasta into your new template, define your own values. |
| 22:17.40 | Jademus_Sreg | The text width may force the tooltip-container frame larger than the max midth, which could be fixed by modifying max width, or forcing text-wrap (important but often overlooked). |
| 22:19.21 | Jademus_Sreg | The tooltip frame anchors shouldn't be an issue, but can cause this sort of visual overflow, usually with an adjecent element and coupled anchor. |
| 22:19.25 | Jademus_Sreg | *anchors |
| 22:20.35 | Jademus_Sreg | That should cover about everything. |
| 22:20.37 | DeadZergling | I'm looking at the default, it is using CommandButton/CommandTooltipTemplate as well |
| 22:21.06 | Jademus_Sreg | Right, take a look at the actual definition of CommandTooltipTemplate/ |
| 22:23.59 | DeadZergling | found it, never been so confused, lol |
| 22:24.35 | Jademus_Sreg | Digging through the guts may not be fun for everyone, but knowing that shit gives you more control. |
| 22:24.59 | DeadZergling | it'd be funner if I had clue what was going on |
| 22:25.12 | Jademus_Sreg | Paste the xml, if you could. |
| 22:25.23 | Jademus_Sreg | Juggling a bunch of stuff, atm. |
| 22:25.26 | DeadZergling | http://tny.cz/4cc8d081 |
| 22:25.47 | DeadZergling | is like Math that way, Math, Calc, etc, funnest stuff ever if you know what is going on |
| 22:25.51 | Jademus_Sreg | There it is: NameLabel. =D |
| 22:25.56 | DeadZergling | if you don't, well, it just sucks in a really terrible way, lol |
| 22:27.37 | DeadZergling | so you are saying, I need to put <Frame type="Label" name="NameLabel"> and such in there |
| 22:27.43 | DeadZergling | to try to make adjustments? |
| 22:28.03 | Jademus_Sreg | Yeah, you can just override it from your own template. |
| 22:28.26 | DeadZergling | I see it specifically says NoWrapping in there |
| 22:28.38 | Jademus_Sreg | =D |
| 22:28.59 | DeadZergling | which might help, might not |
| 22:29.06 | DeadZergling | may as well dink around, see what happens |
| 22:30.11 | DeadZergling | first thing is first, conver NoWrapping to Wrapping |
| 22:30.44 | Jademus_Sreg | You may want to see my enormous UI element reference. |
| 22:31.08 | DeadZergling | maybe, I'm a little overloaded at the moment |
| 22:31.34 | Jademus_Sreg | Which is to say, delete NoWrapping when you override the flags element. |
| 22:31.36 | DeadZergling | I want to understand what is occuring, but finding it difficult to :) |
| 22:33.04 | DeadZergling | I see, I thought we might need Wrapping to override the template we just inherited from |
| 22:33.13 | Jademus_Sreg | No worries, I'm confident it'll make sense soon, after some tinkering and second-guessing. |
| 22:33.30 | DeadZergling | well that makes 1 of us :) |
| 22:35.04 | DeadZergling | thank you Ellipsis definition. Rare that I look up a word only to be more confused than before |
| 22:36.17 | DeadZergling | so it isn't wrapping, with Wrapper or no Wrapper statement at all |
| 22:36.47 | Jademus_Sreg | Wrapping also requires height. =D |
| 22:37.17 | DeadZergling | uh, could you explain that a little more, lol |
| 22:45.25 | Jademus_Sreg | Hm, can't find my paste, damnit. But I found a backup someone else made, yay. |
| 22:45.27 | Jademus_Sreg | "Ellipsis | NoWrapping | StripColor | StripLineBreaks | StripWrapHints | StripUnderlines | StripHyperlinks | StripListsAndListItems | |
| 22:45.28 | Jademus_Sreg | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:45.28 | Jademus_Sreg | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:48.10 | Jademus_Sreg | Anyway, if the label height isn't sufficient, it'll elipse (verb) instead of wrap. |
| 22:48.50 | Jademus_Sreg | If it isn't doing either, that'll be interesting. |
| 22:50.10 | DeadZergling | so what do you suggest attempting? Still not understanding. |
| 22:50.29 | DeadZergling | I tried Ellipsis only, and Ellipsis | Wrapping, no effect |
| 22:58.57 | Jademus_Sreg | Ctrl Strift F12, iirc. |
| 22:59.01 | Jademus_Sreg | *Shift |
| 23:00.14 | DeadZergling | sounds dangerous |
| 23:00.22 | Jademus_Sreg | The in-game interface editor should provide a more direct visual guide to the frame bounds. |
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| 23:05.00 | DeadZergling | just not seeing which of those items might enable wrapping :) |
| 23:06.07 | Jademus_Sreg | Hm. |
| 23:06.31 | anarch | hello |
| 23:07.21 | Jademus_Sreg | If the frame is exceeding the bounds as I expect, its frame bounds would be visible in the in-game interface editor. |
| 23:09.26 | Jademus_Sreg | Anyway, see the frame TipLabel. Notice the differences? =D |
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| 23:17.41 | DeadZergling | I notice it has no options |
| 23:18.06 | DeadZergling | but how would that override what is already being autoassigned by inheriting from CommandTooltipTemplate in the first place? |
| 23:22.32 | Jademus_Sreg | Option val="" |
| 23:23.51 | DeadZergling | Shouldn't just listing Ellipsis and nothing else have overwritten the NoWrapping then? |
| 23:27.26 | DeadZergling | Anyways, tried that, no effect at all |
| 23:39.37 | Jademus_Sreg | Hold on. |
| 23:41.33 | DeadZergling | I can confirm it is doing something, I just changed the text to something terrible to confirm it was |
| 23:54.42 | DeadZergling | well on the plus size, resized the hotkey without needing help. Now if only it wasn't the horribleness that is numpad 0, 1, 2, 3.... |
| 23:57.15 | DeadZergling | making the overlap not as bad, but the actual box size is still horrible |
