| 00:00.59 | DeadZergling | unfortunately, many confuse not believing in evolution much as not believing in science |
| 00:01.09 | DeadZergling | I lack the faith to believe in something as shit as evolution |
| 00:01.15 | Zolden | there's no alternative to evolution, you know. Believeing in evolution is == believing in science, because doubting it means you have to choose between cute bearded jew conjurer and magic |
| 00:01.51 | DeadZergling | Why by not believing in evolution does it mean you must believe in something else? |
| 00:02.54 | DeadZergling | you are as religious than most christians/jews/muslims with that thinking, Zolden |
| 00:02.58 | Zolden | because otherwise it makes the person simply dumb enough to not question the main miracle of the universe, the conscious life. How can a sane person not care |
| 00:03.21 | draktok | Zolden - can you not believe that we haven't found the real solution? |
| 00:03.35 | draktok | Perhaps God isnt' real, as much as Evolution isn't true - at least the extent we currently "believe" it is? |
| 00:05.11 | draktok | Maybe he believe we are still working on the true science behind it because Evolution doesn't always make sense, but it's surely conveinent "well, they were alive 150 million years ago...: |
| 00:05.30 | draktok | Least that's what I gather from DeadZergilng |
| 00:05.35 | draktok | deadzergling * |
| 00:06.09 | Zolden | draktok I can if you ask me about superstring theory, there's alot of controversial data. In theory of evolution there is almost no controversal data, it's one of the most experience friendly theories. It's so logical and beautiful, that there is no chance it's wrong. there may be small changes in genetical mechanisms, responsible for mutations and stuff, there will be even some bit of lamarcian mechanisms maybe, but the whole idea is as correct as standard |
| 00:06.20 | Zolden | ok, i'm sorry, ppl waiting me to play |
| 00:06.52 | DeadZergling | so logical and beautiful that it can't be questioned |
| 00:07.00 | DeadZergling | well then, don't let us mess with your dogma Zolden |
| 00:07.05 | draktok | Zolden I am not a scientist or really care - i was just giving example of perhaps how his line of thoughts, not necessarily agreeing or disagreeing with anyone |
| 00:07.23 | draktok | but too be honest i don't really care about evolution anymore than i care about the myth of global warming |
| 00:12.33 | DeadZergling | no need to continue anywho draktok , Zolden already showed a couple giant holes in his thinking |
| 00:12.41 | DeadZergling | No need to take the discussion any further |
| 00:12.54 | draktok | Ironically I just found an NPC (as soon as you type that) name Stubborn Old Man |
| 00:12.55 | draktok | Hahahaha |
| 00:13.45 | DeadZergling | meh, open-minded is just a synonym for having no real beliefs of your own anyways |
| 00:14.05 | draktok | word |
| 00:15.26 | DeadZergling | I won't carry on though, Zolden simply wanted to play |
| 00:15.37 | DeadZergling | Let's talk about something happier instead, how things going draktok ? |
| 00:16.37 | draktok | Really good! |
| 00:16.42 | draktok | I have new hours at work, which are kind of meh |
| 00:16.46 | DeadZergling | oh, how so? |
| 00:16.52 | draktok | But someone gifted me dungeon defenders 2, so i'm in a great mood! |
| 00:16.59 | draktok | also, it's SIXTY FIVE!!!! degrees outside |
| 00:17.07 | draktok | WHICH IS A BIG DEAL, I LIVE IN MINNESOTA, IT'S UNHEARD OF TO BE THIS WARM SO SOON |
| 00:17.08 | DeadZergling | warm for where you live? |
| 00:17.32 | DeadZergling | yea, most stories involving minnesota weather always end in it being cold |
| 00:17.50 | DeadZergling | we've actually had decent weather in WA state too, which is also fairly rare |
| 00:17.51 | draktok | Its so nice, today, saw 10 people walking the dogs - my gf works at a doggy hotel and she was able to walk dogs today in the nic warm weather, people are out grilling, very pretty and enjoyable |
| 00:18.15 | DeadZergling | oh, I'll grill in ANY weather |
| 00:18.23 | draktok | Well i don't mind the stove |
| 00:18.28 | draktok | You know, most people won't do a steak on the stove |
| 00:18.40 | draktok | but I like the flavor a stove can b ring out, totally different than a grill - sometimes better, sometimes not |
| 00:18.52 | DeadZergling | it is doable, but it never turns out as well for me |
| 00:19.00 | DeadZergling | I also greatly dislike how much mush builds up |
| 00:19.34 | draktok | for something like steaks |
| 00:19.38 | draktok | the cut seems to matter a lot more than on a grill |
| 00:20.54 | DeadZergling | paying attention to it matters the most |
| 00:21.03 | DeadZergling | easy to throw it on the grill, then forget for half an hour |
| 00:22.44 | draktok | word |
| 00:22.54 | draktok | I looked up a lot of videos on how to fry a nice steak first time i moved up here |
| 00:22.59 | draktok | and from there i've kind of got my own thing |
| 00:23.13 | draktok | but, new york cuts - i can make a good dish |
| 00:23.27 | draktok | I'm just not being on the sides - thank goodness my gf makes some greens and potatos for us ;D |
| 00:23.33 | DeadZergling | is often the best way to figure stuff out. Follow someone else's example to start, adjust as necessary |
| 00:24.00 | DeadZergling | my idea of sides are tin foil and potatoes, or a sliced potato and a deep fryer |
| 00:28.58 | draktok | do you own a deep fryer? |
| 00:29.12 | DeadZergling | I own a pot that oil can go in |
| 00:29.16 | DeadZergling | all you really need |
| 00:29.50 | DeadZergling | get any more complex than that, you have to worry about cleaning/failure a lot more |
| 00:35.12 | draktok | ya that's fair |
| 00:42.40 | anarch | hello |
| 01:00.45 | Zolden | ok, back |
| 01:01.58 | Zolden | "open minded"? how about open mouthed while swimming in sewers? |
| 01:02.35 | Zolden | modern infosphere produces so many shit |
| 01:02.40 | Zolden | only science is peaches |
| 01:02.44 | DeadZergling | Probably common in Russia and NJ, but not here? |
| 01:03.18 | Zolden | i'd rather be dogmatic believing in evolution than being open minded believing in obama |
| 01:03.29 | DeadZergling | it is okay that your belief in science is mostly religious Zolden, I'm not going to bother with this conversation any more. |
| 01:03.46 | Zolden | how logic is religious |
| 01:03.55 | Zolden | i read book, see if they logical |
| 01:03.59 | Zolden | where is religion |
| 01:07.13 | Zolden | if you'd read more books about biology, genetics, evolution in common, you'd love it all, it's so smart and beautiful, dude |
| 01:07.42 | Zolden | it's like most entertaining part of science |
| 01:08.02 | Zolden | physics and math are more abstract |
| 01:08.17 | Zolden | biology is super literal and visual |
| 01:08.58 | Zolden | very easy to see in that structure the exact mechanisms that drive the evolution |
| 01:09.24 | Zolden | like you watch ants, you see they take things and bring home, and that makes their colonies grow |
| 01:09.52 | Zolden | and molecular level activities in the cells ar as simple |
| 01:10.02 | Zolden | there's just no fucking way for magic |
| 01:10.20 | Zolden | cells are natural and still more complex and interesting as any possible magic |
| 01:11.08 | Zolden | but it's indeed easier to quit conversation and not read, and still say others are ignorant and religious |
| 01:15.35 | Dustin|Work | Wait, who doesn't believe in Evolution? |
| 01:22.41 | draktok | Who cares. |
| 01:23.36 | Zolden | who cares? someone is wrong in internet, and you ask "who cares"? |
| 01:26.43 | Bounty | lol |
| 01:28.15 | Dustin|Work | lol is right |
| 01:31.34 | DeadZergling | it was me Dustin|Work , but don't worry about it. I lack the faith to be converted. |
| 01:32.10 | Bounty | You don't believe in evolution? |
| 01:32.18 | draktok | Can we go back to who cares |
| 01:32.36 | Zolden | jesus cares |
| 01:32.43 | Bounty | lol |
| 01:32.46 | Dustin|Work | Well I would put on my science hat and explain to you how it works, but if you've already made up your mind I'll just not :) |
| 01:32.56 | draktok | Right, but you aren't jesus - or advocating him, so >who cares |
| 01:33.06 | DeadZergling | he left already, draktok |
| 01:33.46 | DeadZergling | It isn't that I think all parts of it are bogus, but this whole, millions and billions of years shit? hell no |
| 01:33.49 | Bounty | In other news, I recently changed my opinion on abortion >.< |
| 01:34.29 | DeadZergling | I said I wouldn't discuss it further with Zolden, that doesn't apply to Dustin|Work |
| 01:35.13 | DeadZergling | fact of the matter is draktok , we often discuss pointless issues where no one is swayed in any way in here, lol |
| 01:35.54 | Bounty | I actually think I have a concrete argument for why abortion is wrong lol |
| 01:36.30 | DeadZergling | that one is pretty easy for me Bounty , it involves taking another human life |
| 01:36.38 | DeadZergling | Is the same as murder for me, np |
| 01:36.47 | Bounty | Nah, you won't change anyones opinion with that |
| 01:37.04 | Bounty | Murder is ending a life after it started |
| 01:37.06 | DeadZergling | winning converts is never my goal though, Bounty :) |
| 01:37.24 | Bounty | Abortion is preventing a life from existing |
| 01:37.32 | draktok | I dunno, i wouldn't kick a dog that's pregnant, why would you kill your womb |
| 01:37.36 | draktok | Seems bad to me either way |
| 01:37.43 | Bounty | Think of it like if I went back in time and prevented you from being conceived, same thing |
| 01:37.58 | draktok | I have empathy for say, rape victoms, though - but eh |
| 01:38.14 | Bounty | I don't |
| 01:38.24 | Bounty | Have the baby, put it up for adoption |
| 01:38.48 | draktok | im lucky because i don't hang with those who lets these kinds of things bug them, so i don't let it bug me, people will do what people do - just because i think doing X y or Z is bad, doesn't mean it's my job to change their minds, w/e |
| 01:38.51 | Bounty | No telling what that child will grow up to be. |
| 01:39.03 | DeadZergling | problem being draktok, does rape justify murder? |
| 01:39.27 | draktok | i don't mean to say, i think if you are raped, youget a pass and you can have an abortion |
| 01:39.40 | draktok | but, i can understand why giving birth to something that's consequence of rape, is very difficult |
| 01:39.45 | Bounty | Why not just have the baby and put it up for adoption draktok? |
| 01:40.04 | draktok | if my wife and i for example wanted to have a kid, and one day she is raped, and has a kid of another man, that's very tough for me and her to handle |
| 01:40.18 | draktok | i think they should bounty - but i can understand why it's hard for some people |
| 01:40.21 | Bounty | put it up for adoption |
| 01:40.51 | draktok | i didn't say it gives them a pass, i just empathize with the fact that it is tough ... i still think adoption is the best route, but it's certainly not always the easiest route |
| 01:41.45 | DeadZergling | oh no, route isn't easy at all |
| 01:41.51 | Bounty | I wonder how many people have abortions because they forget they can just put the baby up for adoption lol |
| 01:42.11 | draktok | i don't think you can forget |
| 01:42.16 | draktok | but, it's easier to get an abortion TBH |
| 01:42.29 | draktok | and for some people, that's enough of a reason as sad as it is |
| 01:42.34 | DeadZergling | hell, I'm probably a bit more of an ass to my younger daughter than I ought to be, simply because she is an extra to me in ways. That is, I have 2 daughters, 1 son. And the younger is a lot more difficult in many ways. |
| 01:42.46 | Bounty | Convenience > Morales |
| 01:43.00 | DeadZergling | so a rape baby, hell yes that will be difficult to deal with |
| 01:44.15 | Dustin|Work | Ok so Im back. I'm just gonna put this out there DeadZergling, do with it what you will. |
| 01:44.50 | DeadZergling | a lot of what the younger does isn't even so bad, if not for having to deal with the 2 others at the same time. She often doesn't go to sleep for an hour or so for very silly reasons, IE she needs to share with everyone that she has hands and feet |
| 01:45.22 | DeadZergling | she needs to bring this one up quite often |
| 01:45.54 | draktok | Bounty I don't disagree |
| 01:46.01 | draktok | But live in the ghetto, and try to convince them of that |
| 01:46.21 | draktok | Won't happen - they'll laugh at you while walking to the abortion clinic and ignoring the free condoms they offer |
| 01:46.31 | DeadZergling | you do realize Bounty is from NJ, aka the dump? |
| 01:46.47 | Bounty | I'm sure they would laugh at a lot of things that are for the greater good. |
| 01:47.10 | draktok | Sure, but i live in north minneapolis (aka little chicago as most know it around here) |
| 01:47.29 | Bounty | Not sure why you think NJ is 100% a dump DeadZergling lol |
| 01:48.35 | Dustin|Work | Evolution is the random mutation of the RNA copy process. So when a cell reproduces it's self it makes a copy from it's current code (RNA) This process isn't 100% effective. Mutations can occur during this, which could result in changes like, Skin color, limb size etc. So you have a normal Ecosystem with all these animals in it, suddenly there's a small group that has a mutation that effects how well that animal does against it's opposition |
| 01:48.35 | Dustin|Work | (other animals of it's species) So for example sake, there's a group of birds in a location, one bird has a random mutation that gives it shorter wings, turns out the shorter wings gives the bird and advantage over the other birds in the area as it can turn faster to catch prey. So this one bird has a greater chance of living and passing these mutated genes on, after generations of this you have this new breed of bird slowly taking over the |
| 01:48.35 | Dustin|Work | area because of the advantage is has now. That, is evolution. |
| 01:49.51 | DeadZergling | yea, that stuff I'm fine with Dustin|Work |
| 01:52.46 | DeadZergling | It is when people attempt to take what can easily be observed, and assume things no one could ever realistically observe from it, that is when I start to call BS |
| 01:55.28 | Bounty | the hell are you talking about DeadZergling, sounds like you believe in evolution lol |
| 01:56.22 | DeadZergling | Is a difference between agreeing that mutations, survival of the fittest, and Evolution explaining the universe/world, Bounty |
| 01:57.10 | Bounty | Err, I am pretty sure evolution is not meant to explain the universe/world |
| 01:57.11 | draktok | am i a bad person for saying i don't think humans evolved from (w/e the scientific term is) one of the monkey species |
| 01:57.27 | draktok | Bounty i think Zolden believe that though xD |
| 01:57.54 | Bounty | Well then hes an idiot haha |
| 01:58.15 | DeadZergling | not to me draktok , but someone who fully believes in the theory of Evolution, they might bully/demonize you |
| 01:59.02 | draktok | I mean, i understand maybe we have different shape bones, or maybe evolve past the use of something like wisdom teeth, ok |
| 01:59.22 | draktok | but to say, we evolve from a basic form of ancestor shared with monkeys, or from monkeys, eh |
| 01:59.34 | Bounty | I don't think that has anything to do with evolution as much as it does the person DeadZergling |
| 02:00.04 | draktok | Dustin|Work what do you do for a living you sit on sc2 mapster all day :D |
| 02:00.07 | DeadZergling | true Bounty , which is why I said 'might' |
| 02:00.16 | Dustin|Work | I'm a Programmer/Engineer :) |
| 02:00.43 | Bounty | Well, that was random Dustin |
| 02:00.48 | Dustin|Work | We didn't come from Monkeys that we know today |
| 02:01.09 | DeadZergling | and here we go |
| 02:01.27 | Bounty | here we go what? |
| 02:01.58 | draktok | No Dustin - I know that, but i don't believe we evolved from any form of a "homo sapian" in the past, i don't think humans have changed much over our forseeable life time to pretend we were once something we're not personally, but oh well |
| 02:01.59 | DeadZergling | Where Dustin goes deep into left field. |
| 02:02.04 | draktok | I'm gonna go shower and eat starbursts, goodn ight all |
| 02:02.13 | DeadZergling | later draktok |
| 02:02.38 | Dustin|Work | Lol I'm not going into any field, just the peer-reviewed studies and facts field :) |
| 02:02.41 | draktok | i'll stay logged in in case you respond dustin so i can read tmrw |
| 02:02.51 | Dustin|Work | Okay Draktok! |
| 02:02.53 | Dustin|Work | Night man |
| 02:04.46 | DeadZergling | Should I expect alien cells riding in on Crystals? |
| 02:06.39 | DeadZergling | or would Crystal Ponies be more realistic? http://images.wikia.com/mlp/images/archive/e/ee/20121117094123!Crystal_main_ponies_no_Twilight_S3E2.png |
| 02:12.34 | DeadZergling | sorry to bring us back to editor/sc2 related topics |
| 02:12.38 | DeadZergling | but damn do I hate playing with UI |
| 02:14.19 | Dustin|Work | Ugh, my wife took the Mustang today and the back right tire is flat now, Why the fuck arnet my tires evolving to fend of loosing air?! |
| 02:14.30 | Dustin|Work | #thanksobama |
| 02:15.16 | DeadZergling | anyways Bounty , here is what I think of when I think of NJ, http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-mmZJjIzDvwg/UBGfpz3lUUI/AAAAAAAADUI/IY8fn1Gl6lo/s1600/nj-hell2.png |
| 02:15.40 | DeadZergling | no amount of evolution can save hardware from women Dustin|Work |
| 02:15.41 | Dustin|Work | Hahah tiss |
| 02:15.45 | Dustin|Work | yisss* |
| 02:18.49 | DeadZergling | wow, did I misread this one bad: http://s1.2mdn.net/viewad/4386685/Michelle-Hurtado-Will_120x600.gif |
| 02:19.01 | DeadZergling | I somehow mistook Protection for Prostitution |
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| 02:46.26 | Delphinium | 0.0 |
| 03:03.58 | ArcanePariah | Good evening... seems like I missed some fun times |
| 03:04.12 | ArcanePariah | Hey Delphinium, how's it going? |
| 03:05.49 | Delphinium | Hi, Arcane, most stuff goes well I guess. |
| 03:07.34 | Delphinium | I have done many new models, but just didn't get enough time to refresh my showcase. |
| 03:07.35 | Delphinium | http://puu.sh/gvm5y/7617838072.gif |
| 03:07.52 | ArcanePariah | Nice |
| 03:08.24 | Delphinium | Thanks |
| 03:09.25 | Delphinium | http://puu.sh/giCFV/7af8e3bf50.gif |
| 03:09.37 | Delphinium | I love this one mostly. |
| 03:11.25 | ArcanePariah | LOL |
| 03:11.34 | ArcanePariah | Moar Rocks |
| 03:12.30 | Delphinium | http://puu.sh/gvmoo/519c55e806.gif |
| 03:13.08 | ArcanePariah | oo pretty :) |
| 03:13.52 | Delphinium | Thanks, and some other unfinished stuffs. |
| 03:16.23 | ArcanePariah | Can you by any chance give some feedback on some models? |
| 03:17.55 | Delphinium | sure, I used to do that quite more months ago, just too busy these days, but I am getting more time night now. |
| 03:18.23 | Delphinium | http://puu.sh/gvmCW/158184e0ab.gif |
| 03:18.26 | ArcanePariah | Ok, can you by any chance fire up SC2 to take a look? We did a weird setup. |
| 03:18.47 | Delphinium | you mean like this? |
| 03:19.17 | Delphinium | http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/36/591/7-combo-Fire.gif |
| 03:20.01 | Delphinium | it's a very early one model though (not good enough for now) |
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| 03:28.22 | ArcanePariah | So i'm back, my computer decided to go weird on me |
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| 03:31.06 | ArcanePariah | So I'm from my computer deciding to not be cooperative. |
| 03:31.42 | ArcanePariah | Anyhow, Delphinium, what we did is build one master model that contained all the animations, then constructed models for each segment of the unit and attached them doll style. |
| 03:31.54 | ArcanePariah | This allows players to swap and choose among multiple armor sets |
| 03:32.48 | ArcanePariah | So was curious on your thoughts on the various model sets. If you can get on SC2 at all, just look for NOTD 2. We are published on all servers, except maybe CN (not sure). |
| 03:52.58 | Delphinium | hmm, I am thinking solutions. |
| 03:54.06 | Delphinium | I do have a way that can make all the charcters make same animations |
| 03:54.42 | Delphinium | usually 100 to 200 animations from wow and custom animations, as m3a files. |
| 03:55.32 | Delphinium | I remember that JademusSreg is doing the same thing. |
| 04:16.03 | ArcanePariah | Interesting |
| 04:21.07 | Delphinium | I can add a huge animation pack to your character so that you can do the new armor and additional stuffs |
| 04:31.13 | ArcanePariah | Well, we already have the animations, but if you would like to experiment and see, that would be nice :D |
| 04:31.39 | ArcanePariah | We have the models and such built already, I was looking for feedback on how it looked/felt in game. |
| 04:35.41 | ArcanePariah | I think I explained poorly what we did. The units all have the same master model, that is basically a skeleton with animatiosn and attach points. I then attached each kind of armor segment to different attach points. |
| 04:37.55 | Delphinium | did you use the m3plugin or the sc2 art tool to get that models? |
| 04:38.15 | Delphinium | m3plugin needs some addtional sets, like scu team's stuff. |
| 04:38.32 | ArcanePariah | Oh, our model was custom done, we have a modeler on our crew |
| 04:38.51 | ArcanePariah | I doing a horrible job of explaining things. |
| 04:39.51 | ArcanePariah | We built a custom model that contained all the animations for everything and attach points on it. Then we created models for the legs/arms/shoulders/torso and attached them (this is with actors in the editor). So each part of the body is segmented, but are assembled in a way to not look like that. |
| 04:40.28 | Delphinium | yep, I knew that you already have the models, maybe m3 files and textures, but there are differences between sc2 art tool m3 and m3plugin m3 |
| 04:40.38 | Delphinium | forget that, it doesn't matter much. |
| 04:41.09 | ArcanePariah | Well, I can say that our guy doesn't use art tools |
| 04:41.32 | ArcanePariah | If you want, you can look directly at the models. All of our dependencies are unlocked. |
| 04:41.52 | ArcanePariah | Just search in the editor on b.net for NOTD 2, there is a model asset and texture asset dependency, has all the textures and models |
| 04:43.57 | Delphinium | OK, but a max fle will be still same much time. |
| 05:02.23 | Delphinium | good night |
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| 13:37.18 | anarch | morning |
| 13:51.22 | TwoDie | unity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 14:05.36 | Ashamed | Did you see what source is doing? |
| 14:13.07 | Ashamed | I was thinking about making a sc2 map.... but i dunno if i wanna start a project i am pretty sure i wont finish ha |
| 14:15.49 | Ashamed | I have a few i started back in the dayz mby i should just try to continue them ha |
| 14:16.09 | Ashamed | How good you think sc2 runs on linux guys |
| 14:20.40 | anarch | no idea |
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| 14:25.38 | Ashamed | awwww |
| 14:32.38 | anarch | =( |
| 15:02.28 | Ashamed | Well I am installing it |
| 15:02.31 | Ashamed | lets see how good it works |
| 15:17.11 | TwoDie | 17 |
| 15:19.38 | Ashamed | 18 |
| 15:21.51 | Ashamed | WEll so far blizzard desktop app wont even install it ha |
| 15:21.59 | Ashamed | says waiting for another install -.- which there is none |
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| 15:46.52 | Ashamed | yeah only winders would crash my x-server >< sigh guess I will have to try to install sc2 when i get home |
| 15:47.19 | Ashamed | mby ssh into it and close cross over >< |
| 15:54.27 | Ashamed | w00t SSH for the win!! was able to close dumb blizzard and remote back to my machine ha |
| 16:15.08 | Ashamed | get them time outs |
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| 16:18.24 | TwoDie | pew pew |
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| 16:52.36 | TwoDie | triceron what awesome u doing what im not? :/ |
| 16:53.01 | Triceron | nothing, just b chillin |
| 16:53.33 | Triceron | i might be starting a heroes of the storm april fools project soon though, but will see. |
| 16:53.37 | Ashamed | you b cillen |
| 16:53.49 | Triceron | starting a new job next week, dunno if I'll even have time |
| 16:53.58 | Ashamed | i just started a new job! |
| 16:54.10 | Triceron | :O gratz! |
| 16:54.43 | Ashamed | http://frii.com/why_frii/why_work_frii/job_opening_system_administrator |
| 16:54.46 | Ashamed | i just got tha tjob -.- |
| 16:54.50 | Ashamed | this is my second week |
| 16:55.15 | Triceron | oooh, very nice |
| 16:55.20 | Triceron | you get to engineer all the systems |
| 16:55.33 | Ashamed | everything |
| 16:55.35 | Ashamed | its an isp |
| 16:55.49 | Ashamed | -.- i already have a project ha |
| 16:55.51 | Triceron | so are they paying you or are you working for Frii? |
| 16:55.55 | Triceron | badum tshh |
| 16:56.00 | Ashamed | yeah i am working for frii |
| 16:56.14 | Ashamed | There was on engineer already here |
| 16:56.16 | Ashamed | i am the second |
| 16:56.36 | Ashamed | sooo much old linux stuff though |
| 16:56.40 | Ashamed | like 15+ years old |
| 16:56.48 | Ashamed | They have windows 2003 DC >< |
| 16:56.54 | Triceron | eww |
| 16:57.01 | Ashamed | Super eww lol |
| 16:57.06 | Ashamed | and freeBSD like orginal |
| 16:57.08 | Ashamed | ha |
| 16:57.32 | Triceron | why are tech companies so behind on tech |
| 16:58.18 | Ashamed | I have already connected their windows servers with their linux... So i can ssh/bash from any machine now.. Creating a few centeral scripts right now to run the business better |
| 16:58.34 | Ashamed | Yeah they did upgrade to a 10gb fiber ring recently at least ha |
| 16:58.44 | Ashamed | I am not on it yet though >< |
| 16:59.04 | Triceron | guess that's a start :P |
| 16:59.10 | Ashamed | That is one nice thing about working at an ISP ha |
| 16:59.29 | Ashamed | i gets internet from level 3 |
| 17:00.44 | Ashamed | http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4206141121 need internets? |
| 17:03.56 | Ashamed | can't wait until i get on my 10gb though ha |
| 17:04.13 | Ashamed | 1000mbps |
| 17:06.03 | TwoDie | not lacking thanks |
| 17:06.04 | TwoDie | http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4206151732 |
| 17:06.09 | ArcanePariah | To answer your question Triceron, opportunity cost. Upgrading is a cost and you get to throw out a fair amount of stuff that is tested and known to work, or if it has bugs, are known. Upgrading means you get to start all over again. |
| 17:06.47 | ArcanePariah | Ahh, the longings for the day I get decent internet in this wonderful country... |
| 17:08.05 | Ashamed | lol |
| 17:08.16 | Ashamed | i work for an internet company so its a bit easier for me |
| 17:09.12 | Ashamed | errrg but some of the way they have their servers facing is getting me sooo mad... They have these two linux machines facing the internet and not internal |
| 17:09.26 | Ashamed | so i am having issues getting information back to my network its geting me mad ha |
| 17:10.22 | Ashamed | i am trying to create a ssh enviroment that ssh into certain servers runs scripts,etc... but it is kinda hard when i am working on one way streets ha!!! |
| 17:11.19 | TwoDie | http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4206167176 |
| 17:11.52 | Ashamed | boo look at that |
| 17:12.08 | Ashamed | twodie where do you live lol |
| 17:12.10 | Ashamed | Colorado? |
| 17:12.32 | Ashamed | oh you just changed the server |
| 17:12.33 | Ashamed | i see |
| 17:12.35 | TwoDie | in other side of the world |
| 17:12.38 | Ashamed | that is why lat is so bad |
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| 17:19.52 | TwoDie | penis came |
| 17:20.22 | Fisker | I came too |
| 17:20.26 | Ashamed | me too |
| 17:20.46 | Ashamed | we can be cum buddies |
| 17:23.41 | TwoDie | who are u? |
| 17:24.35 | Ashamed | I am |
| 17:24.45 | Ashamed | aka God |
| 17:35.23 | TwoDie | yeah, nooooooooo |
| 17:50.15 | Zolden | cum together |
| 17:50.17 | Zolden | right now |
| 17:52.58 | Ashamed | Right right now?? |
| 17:53.17 | Ashamed | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:56.39 | TwoDie | http://imgur.com/n9Gg7f9 |
| 17:58.27 | Zolden | how would the same tshirt look if brought from reykjavik |
| 17:58.31 | *** join/#sc2mapster DeadZergling (836ba057@gateway/web/freenode/ip.131.107.160.87) |
| 17:58.45 | Zolden | DeadZergling have you ever been in reykjavik? |
| 17:59.29 | DeadZergling | Unlikely, travel isn't my thing |
| 17:59.43 | Zolden | do you think you would love it? |
| 17:59.57 | DeadZergling | who knows, don't even know what it is |
| 18:00.44 | DeadZergling | ArcanePariah: , are you about today? |
| 18:00.45 | Zolden | iceland, bjork, that shit |
| 18:01.19 | Zolden | can anyone paste a hear sign? |
| 18:01.27 | Zolden | there must be one |
| 18:02.04 | TwoDie | omg these farts |
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| 18:03.37 | Ashamed | Hi Bibendus! |
| 18:03.49 | Zolden | TwoDie gathering vespene gas? |
| 18:04.22 | Zolden | ? |
| 18:04.26 | TwoDie | http://www.theonion.com/articles/new-ecofriendly-cigarettes-kill-destructive-human,17529/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=Pic:NA:InFocus |
| 18:04.28 | Zolden | ? |
| 18:04.30 | Zolden | shit |
| 18:05.06 | TwoDie | piss |
| 18:09.58 | TwoDie | anyone know how to make Blizz APP to always show in taskbar near timers |
| 18:10.12 | TwoDie | after every update of app it hidesssssssssssssssssssss |
| 18:10.17 | TwoDie | into obivion |
| 18:10.22 | TwoDie | oblivion |
| 18:12.58 | TwoDie | https://www.flickr.com/photos/mattmacpherson/15525549966/in/album-72157648381314557/lightbox/ |
| 18:14.04 | Zolden | just fuck it in the scrotum |
| 18:14.37 | Ashamed | right in the scrotum |
| 18:14.44 | Ashamed | that is what bilbo did in the second hobbit |
| 18:15.00 | Ashamed | It was a scrotum beard |
| 18:15.03 | Ashamed | but none the less the same |
| 18:15.09 | TwoDie | blacks always sings to the left to the left cause they dont have no right |
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| 18:38.39 | TwoDie | damn these farts gets moar and moar fisshy |
| 18:40.24 | DeadZergling | anywho, having fun UI issues if anyone is good with those sorts of things |
| 18:41.21 | TwoDie | good and making issues? |
| 18:41.28 | TwoDie | im pretty decent at making those |
| 18:41.42 | TwoDie | but im to lazy to make those problems be problematic |
| 18:41.51 | TwoDie | fuck my farting ass |
| 18:43.03 | DeadZergling | when twodie deals with shit, he literally deals with shit |
| 18:43.08 | ArcanePariah | DeadZergling: good day, what is your current UI struggle? |
| 18:43.31 | DeadZergling | oh hey ArcanePariah , the tooltip boxes are resizing in really bad ways for certain resolutions |
| 18:44.14 | DeadZergling | I had it set to minwidth 120, maxwidth 150, which was fine for all resolutions except 4 |
| 18:44.37 | DeadZergling | then it becomes a strange 50 by 50 box or something, text looks awful |
| 18:45.22 | DeadZergling | it is happier when I don't set a min/max, but it does other things I don't like then |
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| 18:46.08 | DeadZergling | will link the xml shortly |
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| 18:49.13 | DeadZergling | http://tny.cz/744bbe8c , linked the whole thing, but pretty sure all we care about is <Frame type="CommandTooltip" name="InventoryItemTooltipTemplate" template="CommandButton/CommandTooltipTemplate"> <MaxWidth val="130"/> <MinWidth val="130"/> <MaxHeight val="500"/> <MinHeight val="150"/> </Frame> |
| 18:50.10 | Zolden | </penis> |
| 18:50.52 | DeadZergling | yes we know zolden, your requirements for what you look for in a woman |
| 18:51.55 | ArcanePariah | Ok, first, to my knowledge, there is not Max/Min height attribute, so you can remove those |
| 18:52.35 | DeadZergling | so when min/max are set, on the resolutions that are working it does exactly what I want, but I get a tiny little box of horribleness for 4. When I just leave it alone, it goes super size on everything and is covering up the screen more than I'd like |
| 18:52.47 | DeadZergling | it made a difference when I altered them before |
| 18:52.58 | ArcanePariah | Interesting |
| 18:53.03 | ArcanePariah | Then I guess they do exist |
| 18:54.28 | DeadZergling | I feel like I did the appropriate tests, I'm just not approaching the problem right |
| 18:57.22 | ArcanePariah | Ok, here's how things work, and this may not be what you want. Elements in the UI can have their dimensions defined 3 ways. You can provide an anchor for a side and then the size of that dimension (so tell it that is left side is at some place and that it is 100 wide). This makes the element absolute sized, ie it will not resize when the resolution changes. |
| 18:57.22 | ArcanePariah | The second way to is to provide anchors for both side (Left/Right, Top/Bottom). This makes the element scale with resolution. |
| 18:57.22 | ArcanePariah | Finally you can do both, which leads to the element having a fixed sized, but its position is relative to the elements it is anchored to. So the positioning of the element will scale with the resolution, but not the size. This may seem weird, but what it permits is for elements on the smallest resolution are next to each other and packed, but on high resolution they are easier to see by being spaced apart, while |
| 18:57.22 | ArcanePariah | retaining their size in both so they can be viewable. |
| 18:58.49 | ArcanePariah | Also, one consideration is what resolutions you are testing. It is perfectly fine to say that you will not support certain low resolutions |
| 18:59.09 | ArcanePariah | To be blunt, testing anything below 720p is a waste |
| 18:59.36 | DeadZergling | yea, it was just like 11xx by 7xx something |
| 18:59.42 | ArcanePariah | Because if someone can afford a computer even capable of playing SC2 it begin with, they can afford a monitor that is from sometime in the last decade. |
| 18:59.46 | DeadZergling | I wouldn't go any lower than 1024 by something |
| 19:01.55 | DeadZergling | well, seems like the first one or the third one is how I should go |
| 19:02.29 | ArcanePariah | I have to go do some stuff, but think it over and we can discuss things further later. |
| 19:02.34 | DeadZergling | I'm also wondering if I should try to figure out how to resize the font for the item name, I noticed some of them were rather large compared to the rest of the text |
| 19:02.51 | DeadZergling | aye thx, get back to me when you can |
| 19:02.57 | ArcanePariah | That also can be done. You would need to create a new font style first. |
| 19:03.06 | ArcanePariah | The font style defines the font size. |
| 19:03.12 | ArcanePariah | See the text module -> Font Styles |
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| 19:05.17 | blackcud | Hi |
| 19:05.35 | blackcud | does anybody know of a big thread/list regarding known performance hogs and how to overcome them? |
| 19:05.55 | blackcud | I have search around for a bit and I know couple of things myself, but that is all just mediocre at best |
| 19:06.15 | blackcud | If such a list doesn't exist, it would be time to compile one :P |
| 19:06.22 | DeadZergling | aye, have a few already. I'll try to locate the one it is currently using so I can just shrink that one |
| 19:07.10 | DeadZergling | uh, it really depends on what you are doing blackcud |
| 19:07.20 | DeadZergling | tools exist in the editor and windows to show exactly who is eating all the resources |
| 19:07.38 | blackcud | loads of units and loads of triggers and huge map :P |
| 19:07.50 | blackcud | so I noticed there is a preload window. is that any good? |
| 19:08.15 | blackcud | I also heard that shrinking the playable area is good |
| 19:08.38 | DeadZergling | well, that and amount on camera at any given time |
| 19:08.51 | DeadZergling | I know some maps utilize actor hiding if not in the players immediate view |
| 19:09.03 | DeadZergling | marine special forces does this I think |
| 19:11.41 | blackcud | hm |
| 19:11.47 | blackcud | also |
| 19:11.52 | blackcud | unit creation causes huge spikes |
| 19:11.57 | blackcud | but only using triggers |
| 19:12.05 | blackcud | if they come via effects, cargo or training |
| 19:12.07 | blackcud | all seems fine |
| 19:12.16 | blackcud | especially broodlords is nasty |
| 19:12.41 | blackcud | I have a lot of periodic events which spawn 2-3 units |
| 19:13.05 | blackcud | would it improve things (generally speaking) if I let those structures actually train the units? |
| 19:13.15 | DeadZergling | 2-3 units shouldn't be much of an issue, the performance issues typically happen when you adding 100s |
| 19:13.32 | blackcud | I noticed that everything beyond 10 is spike on bnet |
| 19:13.48 | blackcud | even with ignore placement on and all |
| 19:14.53 | DeadZergling | broodlords having more issues makes sense, they have those drones that hover around them, right? |
| 19:15.14 | blackcud | jeah I guess it counts at least for 3 units |
| 19:15.23 | blackcud | plus maybe some pathing stuff |
| 19:16.04 | DeadZergling | well, pathing can be a drag, but it really shouldn't be making it that much worse |
| 19:16.52 | blackcud | well, people are complaining that my map has low fps and eats all their ram and cpu |
| 19:17.12 | blackcud | maybe the average arcade gamer's computer is just garbage, but it is a recurring theme in my feedback :/ |
| 19:17.24 | DeadZergling | i see, you happen to be supersizing everything? |
| 19:17.46 | blackcud | there is one large base in which all units are scaled to look taller |
| 19:18.02 | blackcud | but thats like 30 buildings out of 2000 units |
| 19:18.27 | DeadZergling | 2000 huh, that is a lot |
| 19:18.27 | blackcud | is that a problem? would it be better to have separate models? |
| 19:18.40 | DeadZergling | no, 30 shouldn't be much of an issue |
| 19:19.23 | blackcud | does hiding units help anything? |
| 19:19.29 | blackcud | or preloading stuff? or disable preloading? |
| 19:19.43 | blackcud | so hard to test, because on my computer (kinda high end at the moment) it works really fine |
| 19:20.01 | DeadZergling | hiding actors for on a player by player basis can help, but you might just need to find ways to decrease that 2000 count |
| 19:20.39 | blackcud | well I am creating a lot of units (like defenders of enemy bases) with loops and 0.1 waits when the players approach and stuff |
| 19:21.02 | blackcud | and I can play the map just fine and so can couple of my testers |
| 19:21.37 | DeadZergling | I understand, but my map can cause a lot of lag issues, and that is with just about 400-500 units max |
| 19:21.59 | blackcud | what I am trying to say is: are those performance spikes part of the massive size and just "too much for the moment" or are there general things you shouldnt do ever? |
| 19:22.16 | DeadZergling | creating 2-3 units having lag issues shouldn't be happening, but 2000 on screen |
| 19:22.30 | DeadZergling | that would explain why issues are happening |
| 19:22.30 | blackcud | what do you mean "on screen"? |
| 19:22.41 | blackcud | revealed on map? |
| 19:23.02 | blackcud | or in the players field of view? |
| 19:23.13 | DeadZergling | well, 2000 on screen will definitely be bad, in players field of view |
| 19:23.26 | DeadZergling | but what I'm saying is, consider reducing how many can be on the map total |
| 19:23.56 | blackcud | Well I could remove say some enemy base defenses and replace them with fewer more stronger ones |
| 19:23.59 | DeadZergling | actor memory tends to be cheaper than units, by a lot |
| 19:24.11 | DeadZergling | just ask pirate about that one sometime :) |
| 19:24.28 | blackcud | and I have started doing things like: instead of always spawn x broodlords, spawn x-2 broodlords or x guardians |
| 19:25.24 | blackcud | I also have a lot of creep |
| 19:25.41 | blackcud | I heard creep is performance heavy too |
| 19:25.41 | TwoDie | ded |
| 19:26.05 | blackcud | is it something internal with the creep or is it just the large amount of behaviours periodically firing? |
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| 19:26.23 | blackcud | if so, could you optimize it by reducing the frequency of creep updates in the creep gen behaviours? |
| 19:38.21 | Zolden | sad I didn't read the conversation |
| 19:38.29 | Zolden | i'd optimize the shit out of that |
| 19:39.04 | Ashamed | Dustin long time no see |
| 19:40.46 | Dustin|Work | Heyaa |
| 19:40.58 | Dustin|Work | People been slowly crawling back outa the cracks lately :P |
| 19:45.12 | TwoDie | damn |
| 19:45.13 | TwoDie | http://imgur.com/gallery/SeLBq |
| 19:47.27 | Ashamed | I got a new job lol so figure i would bring up the irc so i can chat when i am bored ha |
| 19:49.18 | anarch | thats what i do too :) |
| 19:50.50 | anarch | its a good channel for anyone working with the sc2 editor, or even just people interested in programming or game dev. i was surprised ot hear people talking about unity wheni first came here |
| 19:52.44 | anarch | going home |
| 19:52.46 | anarch | see ya |
| 19:54.13 | Zolden | TwoDie best photobomb is a flying shit, throwed by a homeless guy to a gentleman |
| 19:54.38 | Dustin|Work | Nice! what's the new jarb Ashamed? |
| 19:54.46 | Zolden | anarch because unity consumes mapmakers |
| 20:00.13 | Zolden | TwoDie wehre's goa? |
| 20:00.24 | Zolden | Dustin|Work go post your unity report on mapster |
| 20:00.37 | Zolden | let those noobs see, howm any ppl using it |
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| 20:01.09 | TwoDie | zolden hard on making unity cash |
| 20:03.16 | Dustin|Work | hehe |
| 20:03.26 | Dustin|Work | I've been thinking about using Source 2 |
| 20:03.47 | Dustin|Work | no royaltys or costs |
| 20:08.03 | Zolden | unity royalties start to be actual at 100k income, and one doesn't jsut pay, he simply buys pro version |
| 20:10.46 | TwoDie | fucking shit |
| 20:10.49 | TwoDie | all day eating |
| 20:10.52 | Zolden | lol |
| 20:10.55 | Zolden | u pregnant? |
| 20:11.03 | TwoDie | with all the farts |
| 20:11.16 | Zolden | you're a bio gas factory |
| 20:11.31 | Zolden | it consumes organics, generates gas as a fuel |
| 20:11.48 | TwoDie | im pollution factory |
| 20:11.54 | TwoDie | energy goes to waste |
| 20:11.55 | TwoDie | instantnly |
| 20:12.07 | Zolden | you could add a powersource plugin to you ass, that turns gas into electricity (saw it on reddit) |
| 20:12.11 | TwoDie | as energy consumed just to maintain existance |
| 20:12.32 | Zolden | you would then recharge mobiles with your ass |
| 20:31.21 | TwoDie | . |
| 20:37.34 | TwoDie | a |
| 20:37.42 | TwoDie | yay again trash early access on steam |
| 20:37.43 | TwoDie | http://www.twitch.tv/lirik |
| 20:46.19 | DeadZergling | Oh by the way, if anyone wanted to hear how terrible I sound: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGX29tscqLY . Did a co-op of Death TV with the guy recording for me to help him get to the end |
| 20:49.04 | DeadZergling | <== hates his own voice |
| 20:57.29 | Zolden | wow |
| 20:57.35 | Zolden | where did you get hitler's voice? |
| 20:57.37 | Zolden | nice record |
| 20:57.40 | Zolden | sell it on ebay |
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| 21:26.33 | Zolden | TwoDie fart for me |
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| 21:28.34 | Ashamed | ssh -t Serverhost "/usr/local/bin/sudo cat /usr/local/etc/sudoers>//dc01/users/chadk/test.txt" (This line took me forever to get working!! ) but now my dc and run ssh cmds on remote servers with SUDO and then cat the information back to itself (even though the remote servers cant see my dc from their networks ) |
| 21:28.42 | TwoDie | aww |
| 21:28.50 | TwoDie | self hatred is cool |
| 21:30.56 | Zolden | TwoDie did you check unity 5 videos about light and shaders? |
| 21:31.00 | Zolden | fun to watch |
| 21:31.08 | Ashamed | UNITY 5 OMGERRRRRD |
| 21:31.21 | Zolden | I almost ejaculate when watch those |
| 21:31.27 | TwoDie | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBMQdaQnVu0 |
| 21:31.48 | TwoDie | no |
| 21:31.51 | Zolden | I do watch that channel episodes sometimes |
| 21:32.04 | TwoDie | cant move on with so much unfinished shiet |
| 21:32.05 | Zolden | hitlerless war is fun |
| 21:32.16 | Zolden | no imba units |
| 21:32.45 | Zolden | TwoDie cmon, finish shit, start a clear new life in unity heaven |
| 21:32.52 | Zolden | make a simple shitty game |
| 21:32.54 | Zolden | then 2-3 more |
| 21:33.00 | Zolden | then something nicer |
| 21:33.20 | Zolden | and finally something with peasants building walls |
| 21:33.25 | Zolden | izi |
| 21:37.02 | Zolden | TwoDie what do you do while having a meal? |
| 21:39.53 | DeadZergling | obviously he eats cabbage during every meal |
| 21:40.16 | Ashamed | lol |
| 21:40.17 | Ashamed | and between |
| 21:40.51 | Zolden | and after each fart to fulfill the sources |
| 21:41.16 | Zolden | *fill up |
| 21:41.21 | Zolden | fucking english |
| 21:41.47 | TwoDie | searching undiscovered new content on reddit and twitch |
| 21:42.03 | Zolden | but that requires clicking |
| 21:42.19 | Zolden | why not just watch something or listen a podcast? |
| 21:42.40 | Zolden | I once found on reddit a list of best 100 anime movies |
| 21:42.44 | Zolden | and tried a couple |
| 21:42.58 | Zolden | the ยน1 deserves to be on that place |
| 21:45.30 | DeadZergling | btw Zolden , which one is Hitler's voice? |
| 21:51.46 | Repo | New asset: Solstice's Special Effects via. Cutscenes - http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/solstices-special-effects-cutsce/ |
| 21:58.28 | TwoDie | bag of dieks |
| 21:59.00 | Zolden | DeadZergling that record you pointed as you voice |
| 21:59.16 | Zolden | didn't hear it, but i'm sure, it's super hitler |
| 22:36.53 | Zolden | DeadZergling that microphone clips so hard |
| 22:37.19 | DeadZergling | yea, it is pretty bad the first minute, my headphones being sound proof was also a problem |
| 22:37.25 | DeadZergling | apparently I was yelling the entire time, lol |
| 22:38.09 | Zolden | oh, and the game works realy good |
| 22:38.28 | Zolden | it's how the genre should work |
| 22:38.49 | DeadZergling | the one talent I have, making gameplay good, lol |
| 22:38.53 | Zolden | hope there's not much bnet latency from your triggers ruin the gameplay impression |
| 22:39.20 | DeadZergling | I did all I could to reduce that, including having the player units being preplaced |
| 22:40.21 | DeadZergling | I can notice the difference between testing/bnet, but I can play just about as well on Bnet, so seems okay to me |
| 22:42.59 | Zolden | you could make this game in unity, release it for mobiles, have thousands play it |
| 22:43.40 | DeadZergling | Could, I'd need new models though wouldn't I? |
| 22:54.05 | Zolden | yea, kinda |
| 22:55.02 | Zolden | normally, standalone indie games are being made by small teams of a coder and an artist |
| 22:59.40 | DeadZergling | yea, not sure I know any artists that want to do that amount of work 'just because' |
| 23:02.28 | Zolden | artists, like the coders, are happy to participate something, that may or may not bring cash |
| 23:02.59 | Zolden | two guys just decide to share any possible income 50/50, and doing their best for free for a few months |
| 23:03.06 | Zolden | then either it works or not |
| 23:03.09 | blackcud | anyone of you actually doing something serious with unity or just toying around? |
| 23:03.11 | Zolden | it's how indie works |
| 23:03.39 | Zolden | blackcud yea, some of us do |
| 23:04.08 | Zolden | me and goa have a couple of released games, working further on something more serious |
| 23:04.29 | blackcud | in which language/plugin are you writing most of your code? |
| 23:04.37 | Zolden | C# |
| 23:05.07 | Zolden | it's realy good, all benefits of C++, none of annoying parts of C++ |
| 23:07.53 | Zolden | they released a new video of the warcraft remake http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIkg9Smrlvg |
| 23:07.56 | blackcud | I once bought a plugin which gives you a gui for creating state automatons. that one was really nice. basically anyone can create simple stuff with that whithout knowing any programming |
| 23:09.38 | blackcud | that really looks like war3 |
| 23:11.31 | Zolden | I think any engine will end up having a visual coding part |
| 23:13.35 | pirate | they spelt "strenght" wrong |
| 23:14.36 | Zolden | oh, those russians! |
| 23:16.18 | pirate | buildings need ground splats |
| 23:16.42 | pirate | blizzard looks ugly |
| 23:17.04 | pirate | lol do they really have every modeler and their mother making high poly war3 units? |
| 23:17.13 | pirate | everything else is impressive |
| 23:20.18 | Zolden | the leader is like a crocodile, hist bots your ass and keeps |
| 23:20.33 | Zolden | wtf I jsut wrote |
| 23:21.02 | Zolden | pirate repeat this feedback in the thread pls |
| 23:21.02 | Zolden | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/project-workplace/73158-warcraft-armies-of-azeroth/?page=4#p80 |
| 23:23.00 | pirate | kk |
| 23:24.54 | Zolden | also, everybody upvote its reddit thread http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/2yq5ar/warcraft_armies_of_azeroth_alliance_gameplay/ |
| 23:30.28 | Bounty | I don't get what he big deal is with that game lol |
| 23:30.52 | Zolden | if u were bigger wc3 fan, u'd get it |
| 23:31.23 | Bounty | I was a wc3 fan... its just a remake lol |
| 23:50.00 | Dustin|Work | I still love playing WC3 melee |
| 23:50.09 | Dustin|Work | Porting it to a new engine makes me love it more <3 |
| 23:52.38 | Bounty | I know Dustin, I just don't get how the video for it got more attention then the RTC contest did lol |
| 23:55.46 | Dustin|Work | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226679 |
| 23:56.04 | Dustin|Work | Cause everyone loves WC3 and most people are confused by Arcade maps concept lol |
