| 00:10.00 | Zolden | there's a new map at 1st page on EU |
| 00:10.25 | Zolden | another remake ow war3 funmap |
| 00:10.33 | Zolden | what else could get to the first page |
| 00:10.42 | Zolden | "rimjob patrol" or something |
| 00:33.27 | draktok | i wish |
| 00:33.27 | draktok | :( |
| 01:08.27 | Zolden | multitask my mutalisk |
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| 03:48.23 | draktok | hum |
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| 08:00.48 | JademusSreg | *4 |
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| 09:15.25 | Bounty | peow |
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| 11:15.13 | Zolden | multitask my mutalisk |
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| 11:43.07 | Goa_ | Zolden unity 5 messed up 2D addforce big time for me |
| 11:46.44 | Zolden | how? |
| 11:47.30 | Zolden | what if you add directly to velocity.y? |
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| 11:48.40 | Zolden | and I devised a sexual reproduction system |
| 11:49.39 | Zolden | realy tried to be original, but ended up with a system structurally close to natural genome |
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| 11:49.53 | Zolden | it just emerges from pure abstracts |
| 11:52.11 | Goa_ | I use mass to control add force speed.... |
| 11:53.10 | Zolden | ok, add f/m to velocity |
| 12:19.01 | Goa_ | f/m? |
| 12:19.05 | Goa_ | ohh |
| 12:19.07 | Goa_ | :) |
| 12:19.35 | Goa_ | well I want to figure out what the problem with force |
| 12:28.08 | Zolden | check descriptions, there were 2 kinds of force, there's a reloaded function with explicit flag that switches between those |
| 12:28.15 | Zolden | maybe one of them is the one you need |
| 12:30.14 | Goa_ | problem is more complex than that.D |
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| 12:39.41 | Goa_ | yay fixed one problem |
| 12:45.58 | Zolden | it's what hitler said when decided to cut his moustache a bit so the face fit in the gas mask |
| 12:46.02 | Zolden | (historical fact) |
| 13:12.15 | Zolden | Goa_ now I understand, this cartoon is all about coding http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8H41zbqrwVo |
| 13:12.29 | Zolden | how a coder expect his code work, and how it works |
| 13:35.17 | anarch | my god youre right |
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| 14:29.02 | Classian | http://i.imgur.com/Yi9K3Ib.jpg anyone here who can tell me what is going on? |
| 14:32.31 | Zolden | someone fucks with hots tilesets |
| 14:35.19 | Classian | The problem is that it was normal at first, then i simply saved the map and then it did this |
| 14:38.09 | Zolden | ask on forum, this chat is a noob garden |
| 14:38.41 | Zolden | look at gjdr for example, he's very noob |
| 14:40.28 | Classian | I can see that. Especially gjdr |
| 14:41.11 | Classian | Oh yeah btw, Zolden, do you know somewhere I can look for inspiration for maps etc. I already looked on the Map Art thread at liquid. |
| 15:04.47 | Zolden | inspiration? |
| 15:04.52 | Zolden | like gameplay idea? |
| 15:34.53 | Goa_ | take LSD:D |
| 15:35.11 | Goa_ | just joking, you better of with thc. |
| 15:37.30 | Goa_ | wow that perpetual motion http://youtu.be/8H41zbqrwVo?t=2m7s |
| 15:40.41 | Zolden | wow, I just noticed "doesn't contain GMO" sign on a salt package |
| 15:40.58 | Zolden | so true |
| 15:57.29 | Goa_ | rofl |
| 15:58.28 | Goa_ | Funny how everybody gone full retard on GMO.... |
| 16:03.42 | Zolden | maybe there's wasn't a period in history, when majority weren't retard |
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| 16:20.13 | dckeis | nothing like a good insertion to start off the evening |
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| 16:56.35 | NukedaWhales | sup anyone know how to change player names? |
| 17:04.45 | A1win | Can't do that. Can only fake it by displaying different names with custom stuff. |
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| 18:30.05 | Ahli | evening, does anyone know the current file size limit of mods? (it's at least 41mb as I've published a mod that big... file size limit used to be 20, but was raised at some point) |
| 18:31.11 | Ahli | found a forum post by Tenarsis stating that it's 100mb |
| 18:36.20 | Bounty | peow |
| 18:41.13 | Zolden | what could consume that much |
| 18:41.39 | Zolden | music maybe |
| 18:41.48 | Zolden | each composition is about 5 mb |
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| 18:47.47 | anarch | https://snowdenarchive.cjfe.org/greenstone/collect/snowden1/index/assoc/HASHb2ca.dir/doc.pdf |
| 18:47.59 | anarch | mind blowing NSA document revealing all sorts of secret hacking/spying technology |
| 18:48.23 | anarch | including several tiny implants that they install in to computers or devices, via "intradiction" |
| 18:48.49 | anarch | some of which wirelessly send information such as keystrokes or video to a reciever when the implant is illuminated VIA radar |
| 18:48.52 | anarch | how fucking crazy is that? |
| 18:52.39 | Tomura | Zolden, I'm in a mood to show stuff. Here is the current status of the game I'm working on: http://youtu.be/aDGdlPlTxjk |
| 18:55.17 | ArcanePariah | anarch: Not entirely crazy. Perfectly logical if you, for a moment, consider that technology and engineering are amoral. Morality is a human concept, and once set aside, the human brain is a rather imaginative computer, and now has modern computers to test those imaginations quite quickly. |
| 18:56.29 | ArcanePariah | To my understanding, computers are the ultimate double edge sword. One one hand, they produce all the results, which is great for testing. On the other, they produce all the results, leaving you with an overwhelming amount of data to be analyzed. |
| 18:57.53 | ArcanePariah | Hence why Google and co are so popular, they filter out the noise. Algorthimic designs have been a heavy topic of research as of late. Even in my limited use of Matlab for my DSP class, I can automatically generate hundreds of filter designs, but then I would need to write a program to verify which one meets my specifications |
| 18:58.29 | ArcanePariah | Mind you, Matlab can design the filter for me, but I'm not supposed to do that :D |
| 19:03.37 | anarch | true as this may be |
| 19:06.42 | anarch | i still find it interesting and alarming that such technologically advanced spying technology has been developed |
| 19:08.34 | Bounty | Err, I would not say mortality is just a human concept ArcanePariah. |
| 19:08.59 | anarch | morality^ |
| 19:09.19 | Bounty | damn, did I tell say mortality?? /lol |
| 19:09.24 | Bounty | wtf |
| 19:09.44 | Bounty | what the hell is up with my keyboard |
| 19:10.00 | Bounty | neways, yes.... mortality, not mortality lol |
| 19:10.05 | anarch | idk, maybe an NSA implant, sending your keystrokes to spies via radar return signal? |
| 19:10.15 | anarch | also, you did it again. lol |
| 19:10.16 | Bounty | morality* |
| 19:10.23 | Bounty | finally |
| 19:10.48 | Bounty | I make like 80% more typos ever since getting this mechanical KB |
| 19:11.05 | anarch | one of the devices is a tiny implant that hijacks the "red wire" from the videocard to the monitor, and when the implant is illuminated via radar, it sends back a return signal with the video monitor signal embedded in it |
| 19:11.20 | anarch | aka the spies can see what is on your monitor via a secretimplant in the wire |
| 19:11.44 | ArcanePariah | True, it may not be entirely a human concept. However I do believe morality is subjective, whereas engineering is less so. Simply because the goal of engineering is not dependent on the point of view. Engineering is considered successful if the object created does a minimum of a given specification. |
| 19:11.57 | anarch | and this stuff functions over the air gap, not requiring an internet signal |
| 19:12.17 | ArcanePariah | If I engineer a calculatopr and it fails to do 2 + 2 = 4, it would be considered a failure, objectively |
| 19:12.24 | Bounty | I think people believe morality is subject to suite their own wants/needs |
| 19:12.27 | Zolden | Tomura that's alot of progress. DId you make all those particle effects? does ricochet hurts? |
| 19:13.03 | Bounty | subjective* |
| 19:13.09 | Tomura | no the particles are sample content. I bought another pack for different surfaces from the marketplace |
| 19:13.16 | Tomura | for impacts |
| 19:14.00 | Tomura | probably better than learning fume simulation and rendering flipbooks out, because particles aren't that transparent and easy to customize |
| 19:14.17 | Tomura | most visual stuff is placeholder |
| 19:14.22 | Zolden | waht about the weapons? your modeller created them? where will you get interior textures and enemies/bonuses/other shit |
| 19:14.29 | Bounty | That and... a lot of morality question are hard to answer. The answer is not subjective but its just a pain in the ass to figure out. |
| 19:14.40 | Tomura | also sample content |
| 19:15.19 | Tomura | intereriors need to be modelled by Xaragoth or maybe someone else once we get someone. But I'd like to have a bit more to show before trying to get more people on board |
| 19:15.34 | Tomura | probably also have to get a lawer to work out proper contracts, etc in that happens |
| 19:15.41 | Zolden | it's already something. is there alot to do still? |
| 19:15.49 | Tomura | *lawyer |
| 19:16.12 | Tomura | mostly me finishing my last year of University |
| 19:16.22 | Tomura | that's what takes most of the work ^^ |
| 19:17.02 | Tomura | But the game already has somewhat working online multiplayer |
| 19:17.43 | Zolden | ue had multiplayer premade code? |
| 19:18.21 | Tomura | more or less yes. the Parkour movement needed code to replicate the new states |
| 19:18.50 | Tomura | and you have to take into account if the Character has authority or is just simulated for the player |
| 19:19.23 | Tomura | and replicating damage, which weapons a player is using, what state the weapons are in, etc |
| 19:19.59 | Tomura | I'll have to think about some forms of Forward Prediction or Rewinding |
| 19:20.33 | Zolden | what about weapon vs walls intersection on parcour? |
| 19:20.55 | Tomura | needs to be dealt with with animations |
| 19:21.29 | Tomura | when you are climbing walls there needs to be an animation where the weapon is put away into the holster or somewhere else |
| 19:22.03 | A1win | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:22.14 | ArcanePariah | Amusing |
| 19:22.38 | Zolden | lol |
| 19:23.11 | Zolden | Tomura bill gates quit university for his codings, thought about it? |
| 19:23.20 | Zolden | now he's riches in the world |
| 19:23.41 | Tomura | no it's better to have a good plan B. If that wasn't the case we'd have millions of Bill Gates' |
| 19:23.44 | ArcanePariah | Zolden, Bill gates had a tech partner and also depended on the ignorance of 2 companies to pull what he did off. |
| 19:23.57 | Tomura | I'll probably do a normal dayjob while developing this |
| 19:24.22 | ArcanePariah | That too, Bill Gate wasn't risking much, if he failed, he would have been fine, since his parents were well off. |
| 19:24.43 | ArcanePariah | The largest pre requisite to becoming rich is to be born rich. |
| 19:24.58 | ArcanePariah | Failing that, the rich have to let you become rich. |
| 19:24.59 | Zolden | right, the xcom remake dude who spent 5 years on the project and made a million pounds, said he would be on street if didn't have a daytime job |
| 19:25.16 | Tomura | and we currently have a parkour shooter craze, so it might be better to wait a bit, to stand out more |
| 19:25.46 | Tomura | FPS won't be going away |
| 19:26.05 | ArcanePariah | For better or worse, easily 50% of your success in life is dependent on the socioeconomic status of your parent.s |
| 19:26.22 | Zolden | yes, there is a correlation |
| 19:27.16 | Zolden | for example, that hitler's nephew went to war as his uncle |
| 19:27.23 | Tomura | ^^ |
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| 19:36.50 | Bounty | If you eliminate survival as an aspect of society you would see a whole lot more Bill Gates and Einsteins. |
| 19:37.30 | Bounty | Which is related to what you said ArcanePariah. |
| 19:41.55 | ArcanePariah | Correct, Maslow Hierarchy of needs |
| 19:42.33 | ArcanePariah | If you provide institutionalized systems to provide for all lower order needs, then yes, more people are free to become bill gates and einsteins |
| 19:42.45 | Bounty | Yep, probably my favorite pyramid lol |
| 19:43.25 | ArcanePariah | However, that will only come about when you can effectively implement a low level of communism/socialism. And to do so, you would need to remove human ownership of basic survival elements |
| 19:43.38 | ArcanePariah | IE, no private sale of water or food |
| 19:43.44 | ArcanePariah | Or a limited subset of food |
| 19:44.24 | Bounty | Yes, but I think that the creation of new foods and technologies for those two things should be promoted. |
| 19:44.46 | Bounty | but thats pretty obvious I think lol |
| 19:45.21 | Bounty | Ownership of things such as, your house should not go the communism route though haha |
| 19:45.26 | ArcanePariah | However, to have that, you need to also have at cost energy production, which of course doesn't exist. |
| 19:45.59 | Bounty | It exists, but there is no reason for it to be discovered/implemented. |
| 19:46.12 | Bounty | Reason/incentive |
| 19:46.42 | ArcanePariah | Correct, the technology exists, but to implement requires an net energy input exceeding current energy output (and everything is traced back to energy in some form) |
| 19:47.02 | Bounty | I think they said fusion is not that far off. |
| 19:47.35 | ArcanePariah | Fusion has already been achieve, self sustained is very close, but economic is far away from us. |
| 19:48.03 | Bounty | I mean, a real fusion reactor |
| 19:48.14 | Bounty | I think Michio Kaku said about 30-40 years |
| 19:48.16 | ArcanePariah | Already exists |
| 19:48.16 | Bounty | or something like that |
| 19:48.30 | ArcanePariah | Research reactors already exist that achieve near sustained fusion |
| 19:48.40 | ArcanePariah | Problem is that it is not economical. |
| 19:48.45 | Bounty | nvm, 20 years https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gRnezJNFro |
| 19:54.10 | Goa_ | Zolden http://walacea.com/campaigns/lsd/ |
| 19:56.27 | Bounty | You would think they would have chosen DMT instead of LSD lol |
| 19:59.10 | Zolden | Bounty socialist talk again? are you back to drinking? |
| 19:59.37 | Bounty | Um, I've always had the same opinions lol |
| 20:00.14 | Bounty | So no, I am not back to drinking. |
| 20:06.08 | Bounty | and I still don't consider myself a socialist Zolden =P |
| 20:06.32 | Zolden | u don't have to, others do |
| 20:07.11 | Bounty | Well, they would be wrong :) |
| 20:07.35 | Zolden | saying that there would be more creative people under socialism than under capitalism is one of the most socialistic things to say |
| 20:07.57 | Bounty | I never said that |
| 20:08.25 | Zolden | so, you meant the exact bill gates and einstein? i'm afraid they only have one copies of themselves |
| 20:08.29 | Bounty | [14:36] <Bounty> If you eliminate survival as an aspect of society you would see a whole lot more Bill Gates and Einsteins." |
| 20:09.16 | Bounty | ArcanePariah brought up Maslow's Hierarchy o Needs and then his thoughts on the matter and spoke about socialism |
| 20:09.33 | Zolden | competition produces creative people, feeding maching produces lazy parazites |
| 20:09.37 | Bounty | L2 read brah |
| 20:09.53 | ArcanePariah | Zolden, agreed, but competition over... what? |
| 20:10.03 | Bounty | If you believe that, you need to do some deep thinking |
| 20:10.10 | ArcanePariah | Also, no one truly only competes. |
| 20:10.12 | Zolden | competition for anything |
| 20:10.25 | ArcanePariah | Because historically, to win a competition, one collaborates |
| 20:10.33 | Bounty | You don't need competition as a driver |
| 20:10.38 | ArcanePariah | Yes and No |
| 20:10.39 | Zolden | yea societies compete between each other |
| 20:10.54 | Bounty | Its inefficient. |
| 20:11.00 | ArcanePariah | Ok, so what happens when competition is no longer necessary to obtain the result? |
| 20:11.13 | ArcanePariah | That it is easier/faster to collborate to achieve the same result? |
| 20:11.29 | Zolden | there's no such thing as competition is no longer necessary |
| 20:11.46 | ArcanePariah | In total, correct, in a specific situtation, depends |
| 20:11.50 | Bounty | Just like the pyramid ArcanePariah, people are naturally curious and want to create and discover |
| 20:11.54 | Zolden | collaboration is good if you fight other groups for the market |
| 20:12.22 | ArcanePariah | You need both, hence why I said low level communism, not total. Having communism for say, just water, and nothign more, I believe is effective. |
| 20:12.28 | Zolden | Bounty they are naturally curious and lazy. Laziness makes them do only what brings them up in social ierarchy |
| 20:12.45 | Bounty | Perhaps that is a reflection of yourself Zolden |
| 20:12.50 | ArcanePariah | I choose water because it is a resource that you can NOT use without limit. |
| 20:13.01 | ArcanePariah | Your body can only absorb so much |
| 20:13.16 | Bounty | If you require motivation to keep you from being lazy or wanting to do something, you have a very undeveloped brain lol |
| 20:13.21 | Bounty | err |
| 20:13.23 | Bounty | competition* |
| 20:13.34 | ArcanePariah | Not entirely |
| 20:13.54 | ArcanePariah | Competition is a way to assess goals. Since not all goals can be objective |
| 20:13.54 | Zolden | Bounty you keep saying this to me, but this idea of "you say so because you describe yourself" only comes to people who do this. I read tons of books and can summarize general laws of psychology |
| 20:14.14 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:14.17 | ArcanePariah | Competition is good for doing subjective goals. Objective goals are better served by cooperation |
| 20:14.31 | Bounty | Congrats on being able to memorize things others came up with Zolden |
| 20:14.39 | ArcanePariah | For example, it is objectively true that humans need water to survive. |
| 20:14.39 | Zolden | Bounty naive romantic beliefs, that's what you translate |
| 20:14.40 | Bounty | idk what to tell you |
| 20:14.54 | ArcanePariah | So it is best to cooperate to get everyone water. |
| 20:15.14 | Bounty | How does competition help to assess goals though? |
| 20:15.22 | Bounty | Give an example so I can better understand this. |
| 20:15.24 | ArcanePariah | Subjective goals* |
| 20:15.36 | Bounty | [15:13] <ArcanePariah> Competition is a way to assess goals. |
| 20:15.45 | Bounty | I guess you meant subjective goals? |
| 20:15.47 | Zolden | Bounty memorizing is not how I deal with information, i create a system of knowledge, that every time is being recalculated based on additional knowledge and experience, my memory suck, but system makes me generate general ideas from common sence |
| 20:16.03 | ArcanePariah | 12:14:18 PM - ArcanePariah: Competition is good for doing subjective goals. Objective goals are better served by cooperation |
| 20:16.43 | Bounty | Yes but how does it help assess goals? |
| 20:16.55 | Zolden | ArcanePariah water can't make one to sit and do nothing, and enjoy being a parasite |
| 20:17.03 | Zolden | free food would |
| 20:17.07 | ArcanePariah | Subjective: Which kind of car engine is best? |
| 20:17.26 | ArcanePariah | Answer: It depends on the task. So one competes with a variety odesigns to fit the specifications |
| 20:17.32 | Bounty | Like, thats what I'm not understanding. You don't need competition to tell the difference between what is an subjective and objective goal. |
| 20:17.49 | Zolden | Bounty just look around, every single thing you see is a direct result of the competition |
| 20:17.54 | ArcanePariah | No, but you do need competition to find the optimal solution to a subjective competition |
| 20:17.57 | ArcanePariah | Zolden, incorrect |
| 20:18.11 | ArcanePariah | Most large scale infrastructure is not done via competition |
| 20:18.12 | Zolden | western civilization based on free market and competition, that's why everything is so high quality |
| 20:18.19 | Bounty | Ok I think I get what you're saying ArcanePariah |
| 20:18.22 | ArcanePariah | Also incorrect. |
| 20:18.29 | ArcanePariah | Most of the west is mixed market |
| 20:18.38 | Bounty | You're talking about mental competition in the sense of making a decision when it comes to comparing/contrasting |
| 20:18.42 | Bounty | yes? |
| 20:19.03 | ArcanePariah | SOmewhat yes. I can have 4 different solutions to a problem, each fufills the goal, but with varying costs |
| 20:19.09 | Zolden | ArcanePariah 19th century is a mortal fight between rich capitalists for buiding infrastructure |
| 20:19.31 | Bounty | Try to stay on the competition in the sense of with eachother thing |
| 20:19.32 | ArcanePariah | Yes Zolden and we saw where that ended in the early 20th centruy |
| 20:19.52 | ArcanePariah | Unlimited competition does not work, neither does unlimited cooperation. You need both |
| 20:19.54 | Bounty | outside of that, yes... you should compete with yourself when making judgements/decisions |
| 20:20.05 | Zolden | ArcanePariah its mixness is present, indeed, and it has purpose to fight monopoly to switch towards higher competitiveness in some areas |
| 20:20.19 | Bounty | The thing about that ArcanePariah is that one has been tried and one has not. |
| 20:20.37 | ArcanePariah | Precisely. Captialism is a game, but it makes one MASSIVE assumption: That no one can actually win. |
| 20:20.38 | Bounty | So we don't really know what would happen under unlimited cooperation |
| 20:20.46 | Zolden | ArcanePariah lower scale cooperation is a tool of higher scale competition |
| 20:21.20 | Bounty | The problem is capitalism IGNORES one fundamental problem.... that over time someone is going to come out on top. |
| 20:21.24 | Zolden | ArcanePariah is USA competes with other countries, it has ALOT of inner competition and socialistic regulation over market |
| 20:21.29 | Bounty | Just like the game of monopoly |
| 20:21.35 | Zolden | *of inner collaboration |
| 20:21.37 | ArcanePariah | Bounty, we do know what happens under unlimited cooperation. The issue is that it does not scale. |
| 20:21.38 | Bounty | Someone is going to win the whole thing |
| 20:21.56 | ArcanePariah | At small scale, unlimited cooperation works fine |
| 20:22.03 | ArcanePariah | At large, it does not |
| 20:22.14 | Zolden | Bounty unlimited cooperation is a body of any organism. Cells cooperated entirely, no free will allowed |
| 20:22.19 | Bounty | Its because you're grouping everything ArcanePariah |
| 20:22.29 | Bounty | Cooperation + sub cooperation |
| 20:22.36 | Bounty | Everyone in the world does not have to be working on the same thing |
| 20:22.44 | Bounty | If that makes sense? |
| 20:23.02 | ArcanePariah | Correct, however, everyone is drawing from the same overall pool of resources. |
| 20:23.15 | Zolden | world is economical ecosystem, everyone finds less populated area to have better chances |
| 20:23.23 | ArcanePariah | To do X, may require Y not be done |
| 20:23.49 | Bounty | When you use the word resources I assume you're leaving money out of it right ArcanePariah? (as you should lol) |
| 20:24.04 | ArcanePariah | Thus competition is born. However, as you noted, competition is inherantly inefficient up front. Since you are having multiple duplicate efforts to achieve the same thing. |
| 20:24.07 | Bounty | Talking about real resources |
| 20:24.23 | ArcanePariah | Money is simply an abstraction and yes, I do not consider it. There are only 2 resources really: Time and Energy |
| 20:24.33 | ArcanePariah | Everything else can be expressed as a function of those 32 |
| 20:24.35 | ArcanePariah | 2* |
| 20:24.36 | Bounty | and food/water |
| 20:24.44 | ArcanePariah | Errmmm, food = energy * time |
| 20:24.51 | Bounty | water? |
| 20:25.15 | ArcanePariah | Also energy * time. You have to get it yes? and continutally replenish yourself of it? |
| 20:25.24 | ArcanePariah | Water is the oil of your body |
| 20:25.48 | ArcanePariah | Without it, none of the energy transfers can take place and you die. |
| 20:25.52 | Bounty | I think that only having those 2 things as resources is silly |
| 20:26.06 | Bounty | You could have unlimited both of those and still get fucked on food and water lol |
| 20:26.11 | ArcanePariah | Actually no |
| 20:26.31 | Bounty | but I get what you're saying |
| 20:26.31 | ArcanePariah | Since if you have infinite energy, then infinite matter rearragement is possible, ala star trek replicator |
| 20:26.43 | Bounty | I was afraid you would bring that up |
| 20:26.51 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:27.03 | ArcanePariah | E = MC^2 |
| 20:27.10 | Bounty | Ribosomes = Natures Replicator |
| 20:27.14 | ArcanePariah | IF E = infinty, I can create any form of matter I wish |
| 20:27.30 | Bounty | They need to study those and see how they work lol |
| 20:27.37 | ArcanePariah | They do |
| 20:27.40 | Bounty | to build the replicator |
| 20:27.51 | ArcanePariah | They are insanely efficient, an efficiency we can not synthesize |
| 20:27.54 | Bounty | are they doing it to discover how to create a replicator? |
| 20:27.57 | ArcanePariah | Same for our bodies |
| 20:28.09 | ArcanePariah | Our bodies are obscenely efficient, makes car engines look like toys |
| 20:28.25 | Zolden | not in thinking |
| 20:28.34 | Bounty | Yes but they still rearrange atoms into life |
| 20:28.41 | Zolden | neurons are just cells, suck at calculations |
| 20:28.48 | ArcanePariah | Ermm... very much in thinking, our brains use a tiny amount of energy |
| 20:29.18 | Bounty | I think the human brain is the most efficient thing we know of outside of Stars |
| 20:29.24 | Bounty | I could be wrong on that though |
| 20:29.26 | ArcanePariah | Our brains use the same amount of energy a modern CPU does, yet can do way more calcualations and store vast more infomration then any computer can. |
| 20:30.25 | Zolden | flash memory doesn't even need energy to store information |
| 20:30.38 | Bounty | Brain = 20w |
| 20:30.46 | ArcanePariah | When it is turned off yes, but to access it... |
| 20:30.53 | Zolden | and reading/writing requires so few energy, brain simply can't remember as much as a little few gb flash stick |
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| 20:31.02 | ArcanePariah | Erm.... |
| 20:31.14 | ArcanePariah | The last 20 seconds of sight exceeds a flash drive storeage |
| 20:31.19 | Bounty | ^ |
| 20:31.25 | Bounty | I was about to say ArcanePariah |
| 20:31.30 | ArcanePariah | That's easily several dozen gigs of raw video right there |
| 20:31.42 | Bounty | If you could use someones brain to replace your SSD.... do it |
| 20:31.48 | Zolden | ArcanePariah it's not hd images, it's a few details, human memory filters shit hard to be able to remember anything |
| 20:31.51 | Bounty | so much storage lol |
| 20:32.10 | Bounty | we're not talking about interpretation Zolden |
| 20:32.24 | Bounty | its data size |
| 20:32.26 | ArcanePariah | Zolden, lasti checked, it IS HD, you have a true 3d image being stored, not to mention peripheral vision |
| 20:32.44 | ArcanePariah | And even then, that speaks to the CPU power of our brain that it can interpolate that well |
| 20:32.57 | ArcanePariah | Computers still suck hard core at image recoginition |
| 20:33.02 | Bounty | and do CPU's really only use 20w of power? |
| 20:33.05 | ArcanePariah | So easy to fool them. |
| 20:33.07 | Bounty | I thought they used more |
| 20:33.12 | ArcanePariah | Some can, but only the low end |
| 20:33.16 | Zolden | ArcanePariah it's not the image is being stored, it's a few details, compression stuff |
| 20:33.20 | ArcanePariah | Think your phone or tablets. |
| 20:33.29 | ArcanePariah | In which case, our brains have incredible compression |
| 20:33.33 | ArcanePariah | and incredible interpolation |
| 20:33.42 | Bounty | This discussion reminds me of that old question |
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| 20:33.53 | Bounty | What weights more, 20lbs of sand or 20lbs of feathers? |
| 20:33.59 | Bounty | weighs* |
| 20:34.00 | ArcanePariah | I must afk, food awaits |
| 20:34.50 | Zolden | ArcanePariah i'm talking about neurons, not brain. And transistors, not soft. Neurons are cells, they do lots of stuff to sustain their state, most of energy is needed for that "meat" routine, and sometimes neurone just wastes ALOT of accumulated energy to do a simple thing, that transistor does cheaper and without risk of dieing any moment |
| 20:34.50 | DeadZergling | is this question asked in a vacuum Bounty ? |
| 20:36.15 | Zolden | the whole brain thing is a nice attempt to use cells as transistors, but nature can't turn brains to transistors, so it's stuck with slow costly meat |
| 20:36.43 | Zolden | while transistors do nothing except calculations, and software will soon be there to do any kinds of image recognition and all sorts of creativity |
| 20:37.42 | Zolden | it just takes some learning of real biology instead of blindly consuming some popular myths to get rid of naive idealization of the brain |
| 20:39.16 | Zolden | birds are 3 times smarter than mammals per brain mass, cause they have much smaller neurons to afford both flying and thinking, that's why crows so smart with their small heads |
| 20:40.37 | DeadZergling | what is wrong with dckeis name? |
| 20:40.48 | DeadZergling | Oh well, if he can't be right, I can |
| 20:41.04 | Bounty | I don't think it matters if its in a vacuum DeadZergling. |
| 20:41.10 | DeadZergling | :D |
| 20:41.22 | duckies | good, you can deal with all my issues for me |
| 20:41.30 | DeadZergling | OK :D |
| 20:41.49 | Zolden | one random fact: neuron gets disabled after being activated, and then has to consume lots of energy and time to get back to available state, while a transistor can do waht a neuron does a couple of hundreds of billions a second |
| 20:42.11 | duckies | go ahead DeadZergling , explain why it matters if it is in a vacuum |
| 20:42.19 | duckies | I'm excused from the conversation now |
| 20:42.49 | DeadZergling | Uh... maybe if you're talking about the vacumm of space, then there is no weight? xD |
| 20:43.04 | Bounty | random thing that I think is a fact: Neurons work like muscles in that they become more efficient the more they are used |
| 20:43.18 | Zolden | also, the fact that a transistor consumes alot of energy speaks about its high progressive state. If we give the brain alot of energy, it will simply burn. While transistors keep consuming all that energy for good |
| 20:43.26 | Bounty | Am I right on that or? |
| 20:43.36 | Zolden | Bounty not neurons, brain |
| 20:43.42 | Zolden | neurons still suck poop |
| 20:43.55 | Bounty | Yes but neurons make the connections, yes? |
| 20:44.30 | Zolden | yea, they do |
| 20:44.51 | Zolden | they maybe can increase a bit the amount of receptors and transmitters |
| 20:45.08 | Zolden | and ion pumps |
| 20:45.10 | Bounty | So, if thats true... if you raised believing or just continuously think/believe competition is the #1 solution to everything... |
| 20:45.15 | Bounty | you're* |
| 20:45.36 | Bounty | That would make a neurological connection somewhere yes? |
| 20:45.57 | Zolden | brain is a result of hard competition in nature |
| 20:46.06 | Bounty | I'm aware of that |
| 20:46.12 | Bounty | but is what I just said true? lol |
| 20:46.25 | Zolden | what happens to a bacteria colony if they have free food? theyy degrade fast |
| 20:46.29 | Zolden | loosing genes fast |
| 20:46.31 | duckies | so my duck stuff probably won't be done for 5-6 months because I'm lazy |
| 20:47.06 | Bounty | I think we can do a little better then bacteria Zolden, if thats the bar you're setting |
| 20:47.28 | DeadZergling | wish i knew what the debate was about. it seems pretty interesting but i cant really identify any specific sides/positions to defend/attack xD |
| 20:47.29 | Zolden | Bounty there's a huge gup between connections and the information, that gap is an unknown area for neurologists who study how the brain remembers |
| 20:48.11 | Bounty | Yes but we understand how personalities are formed though right? |
| 20:48.22 | Bounty | And thats from neurological connections? |
| 20:48.34 | Zolden | Bounty we could if there were diffferent ruules in nature, but the rules are similar for bacteria, rats, people, plants, corporations, societies, civilizations, even planetary civilization |
| 20:48.36 | duckies | It is okay anarch, you rarely do understand what is going on. |
| 20:49.24 | DeadZergling | duckies: thats an absurd insinutation |
| 20:49.25 | Bounty | I thought the whole idea of what makes us special is that we're somewhat above the rules of nature |
| 20:49.41 | Zolden | Bounty personality != knowledge, connections are too basic things to be used for description of such high level things as personalities and knowledge |
| 20:49.55 | Bounty | I know Zolden |
| 20:50.05 | Zolden | Bounty is plane above the rules of gravity? |
| 20:50.30 | Bounty | I'm not saying that Zolden... ffs |
| 20:50.51 | Bounty | Natural selection does not operate as it does in nature for us anymore |
| 20:50.56 | Bounty | and we're out of the food chain (thank god) |
| 20:51.07 | Zolden | good, so there's no reason to say that something is above the rules of mother nature. THey travel from scale to scale |
| 20:51.13 | duckies | gravity, a force we understand least of all, what a fun thing to bring up Zolden :) |
| 20:51.46 | Bounty | hes going rogue duckies |
| 20:51.55 | Bounty | bringing up random stuff that has nothing to do with what I'm trying to say lol |
| 20:51.59 | Bounty | >.< |
| 20:52.03 | Zolden | Bounty yes, we ruined natural ecosystem, and created artificial one |
| 20:52.25 | Bounty | ok... so why the hell do you keep bringing up nature? |
| 20:52.33 | duckies | of course he is, his English is limited |
| 20:52.49 | Zolden | ok, no reason for me to continue this |
| 20:52.56 | Zolden | you two have fun talking to each other |
| 20:52.57 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:53.12 | duckies | he learned that one from Putin |
| 20:53.18 | Bounty | haha |
| 20:53.52 | duckies | really anarch, you change names, and immediately use an emoticon I have never used once in my entire time online, you are a terrible me |
| 20:54.08 | duckies | and dckeis , train your webbed feet to type better |
| 20:54.23 | anarch | i know =( |
| 20:54.35 | Bounty | I don't know who is real anymore.... |
| 20:54.45 | anarch | all i know is that i exist. |
| 20:54.57 | Bounty | how do you know that? |
| 20:54.58 | DeadZergling | meh, the regulars in here Bounty , you should know them by the way they talk |
| 20:55.01 | Bounty | =P |
| 20:55.03 | anarch | i think, therefore, i am? |
| 20:55.32 | anarch | going home. take care |
| 20:55.36 | Bounty | It really should be the opposite |
| 20:55.49 | Bounty | I am, therefore I think. |
| 20:55.51 | anarch | not necessarily |
| 20:56.13 | Bounty | btw, I'm just BSing at this point.... |
| 20:56.26 | DeadZergling | you don't say |
| 20:56.30 | anarch | thats fine, i gotta leave work no anyways |
| 20:56.33 | anarch | now* |
| 20:57.12 | DeadZergling | neurons getting stronger the more they are used, I'm not sure if I agree with that one at all, Bounty |
| 20:57.29 | Bounty | the connections between neurons |
| 20:57.37 | DeadZergling | connections in the brain get stronger, reinforced as they are used, but that isn't to say the neurons are stronger |
| 20:57.38 | Bounty | gets more efficient |
| 20:57.51 | Bounty | I know, thats what I was saying |
| 20:57.55 | DeadZergling | yes, but you specifically said neurons |
| 20:58.13 | DeadZergling | okay, that gets a pass, since you are from NJ |
| 20:58.21 | Bounty | My bad, at the point in the conversation we were at Zolden knew what I was talking about |
| 20:58.42 | Bounty | and I thought I said neurological connections? |
| 20:58.46 | DeadZergling | you know how technical we get in here, miswords are the devil! |
| 20:59.03 | Bounty | >.< |
| 20:59.17 | DeadZergling | Making Zolden Satan |
| 20:59.25 | Bounty | I'll have to remember not to use the phrase "stronger neurons" |
| 20:59.28 | DeadZergling | he miswords all the time |
| 20:59.47 | Bounty | Because he doesn't speak words, he speaks russian |
| 21:00.32 | Bounty | He speaks Ñлова |
| 21:00.43 | DeadZergling | I was mostly pointing that part out, I'll re-read the rest, I was admittedly focused on something else at the time :) |
| 21:00.45 | Bounty | Thank you google translate. |
| 21:01.46 | DeadZergling | so much stuff, and randomization for fun |
| 21:01.53 | DeadZergling | I'm too lazy to read it all in now |
| 21:02.00 | Bounty | I think I pretty much proved my point. |
| 21:02.22 | Bounty | Its a good read |
| 21:02.26 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:03.39 | DeadZergling | kind of, but unless you are designing a chip |
| 21:03.47 | DeadZergling | I don't think it is worthwhile to think about such things too much |
| 21:04.15 | Bounty | The whole brain discussion stemmed from the political discussion earlier |
| 21:04.34 | DeadZergling | not sad I missed that one |
| 21:04.46 | Bounty | Which was about why we don't need competition to produce results. |
| 21:05.13 | Bounty | not sure if thats political or not |
| 21:05.33 | Bounty | I guess it could be viewed as many topics |
| 21:05.50 | DeadZergling | not really, but competition to produce results, that one is often true, but it is more a catalyst |
| 21:05.55 | DeadZergling | than the sole creator of results |
| 21:06.07 | DeadZergling | not really in regards to being political |
| 21:07.01 | Bounty | Its a catalyst for a certain mindset (business) but it is not needed overall |
| 21:07.07 | DeadZergling | Take an example of there only being one man, and one woman on an island for example |
| 21:07.16 | Bounty | and does more harm than good in the long term |
| 21:07.24 | Bounty | that was the discussion pretty much |
| 21:07.34 | DeadZergling | in that case, all the man has to do is get food, and boink the woman |
| 21:07.42 | DeadZergling | however, if there are two men |
| 21:07.49 | DeadZergling | he must also devise a way to get rid of the other man |
| 21:08.06 | DeadZergling | he thinks about how to be better much more proactively |
| 21:08.22 | Bounty | or, they could both boink the woman and create a more diverse gene pool of kids? |
| 21:08.27 | DeadZergling | otherwise he would just happily boink his woman |
| 21:08.46 | DeadZergling | yea, that might be how it goes down in NJ |
| 21:08.51 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:08.57 | Bounty | Thats the best solution |
| 21:08.57 | DeadZergling | but around here, one of the guys needs to become a eunuch or die |
| 21:09.31 | DeadZergling | yea, until the woman says she has to wash her hair to one man |
| 21:09.38 | DeadZergling | and that man catches her with the other man |
| 21:09.39 | Bounty | Much higher chances of survival with 2 men vs 1 as well |
| 21:10.06 | Bounty | You're assuming a certain mindset though |
| 21:10.12 | DeadZergling | even in cooperation, they will want to have the biggest club, to catch the most fish, kill the most rabbits |
| 21:10.19 | DeadZergling | competition once again provides higher quality results |
| 21:10.40 | Bounty | If I were you, in this example the biggest issue is who has kids after the original 3 die? lol |
| 21:10.53 | Bounty | Thats where things get weird |
| 21:10.55 | DeadZergling | otherwise, enough fish/rabbits not to die is enough, no more trying |
| 21:11.08 | Bounty | Not everyones brains work like that though |
| 21:11.22 | DeadZergling | Obviously inbreeding happens, but that isn't the point, and you know it |
| 21:11.29 | Bounty | In the sense of "they will want to have the biggest club, to catch the most fish, kill the most rabbits" |
| 21:11.38 | Bounty | I know, I'm just busting balls |
| 21:12.10 | DeadZergling | isn't really busting when the answer is so obvious |
| 21:12.57 | Bounty | Apparently the answer isn't obvious lol |
| 21:13.37 | Bounty | Our opinions are usually somewhat informed from a reflection of ourselves so... |
| 21:13.48 | DeadZergling | *formed |
| 21:14.02 | Bounty | I would say informed |
| 21:14.22 | DeadZergling | and you are correct that not all brains work like that, but the brains who don't work like that, on an island with limited space/resources |
| 21:14.27 | DeadZergling | would be the ones to get squished |
| 21:14.54 | Bounty | Why? |
| 21:14.58 | DeadZergling | so you like to inform opinions? Very special snowflake you are Bounty :) Most of us form opinions. |
| 21:15.09 | DeadZergling | They wouldn't have the largest club. |
| 21:15.27 | Bounty | No I am saying that sometimes our opinions are informed by a reflection of ourselves |
| 21:15.33 | Bounty | our personalities |
| 21:15.47 | DeadZergling | But an opinion is a thing, not a person |
| 21:15.48 | Bounty | They would have the largest club DeadZergling.... |
| 21:15.58 | DeadZergling | you can't inform it |
| 21:16.00 | Bounty | They start off with 1 more man |
| 21:16.06 | DeadZergling | you can alter it, change it, form it |
| 21:16.19 | DeadZergling | but inform an opinion, sounds ridiculous :) |
| 21:16.22 | Bounty | what is the damn word I am thinking off |
| 21:17.01 | DeadZergling | they start off with 1 more man? Once again it is those men, competing peacefully that they get results |
| 21:17.09 | DeadZergling | you are defeating your own point with statements like that |
| 21:17.12 | Bounty | skewed is the word I think I should have used |
| 21:17.30 | DeadZergling | Anyways, back later, RL shit to do right now. |
| 21:17.37 | Bounty | fuck it, I think you know what I'm saying to say |
| 21:17.38 | DeadZergling | can continue the discussion later then if you want, Bounty |
| 21:17.40 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:17.48 | DeadZergling | *trying to say |
| 21:17.57 | Bounty | also |
| 21:18.05 | Bounty | my team would not be competing remember? |
| 21:18.10 | Bounty | =P |
| 21:22.12 | Bounty | also I was right in my use of the word inform DeadZergling |
| 21:22.20 | Bounty | DeadZerglingAway |
| 21:22.45 | Bounty | "to give information; supply knowledge or enlightenment." |
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| 21:57.44 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 21:57.48 | Bounty | >.< |
| 22:05.00 | Bounty | You missed a fun discussion today JademusSreg, was interesting. |
| 22:05.26 | Bounty | Of course, it followed the traditional flow of most discussions in here. lol |
| 22:05.51 | Bounty | but in a good way. |
| 22:11.07 | DeadZerglingAway | best part of course was, Bounty chain misused words nonstop |
| 22:12.12 | Bounty | I did not |
| 22:13.21 | JademusSreg | Orly? |
| 22:15.37 | Bounty | and regardless, I was still correct >.< |
| 22:19.15 | Zolden | JademusSreg wanna see a perfect metaphor of coding? |
| 22:19.44 | DeadZergling | but Bounty, you weren't :) |
| 22:22.34 | JademusSreg | Zol, yespls. |
| 22:22.54 | JademusSreg | I'd scroll up and read all that, except no. |
| 22:22.58 | JademusSreg | Messy. |
| 22:24.07 | Zolden | JademusSreg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8H41zbqrwVo |
| 22:25.29 | JademusSreg | Almost accurate. =D |
| 22:31.57 | JademusSreg | Accurate comic: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25009451/ProgrammerInterrupted.png |
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| 22:38.27 | Zolden | yea, that's accurate |
| 23:08.54 | Bounty | Do you think it would be possible to detect words via chat strings JademusSreg? Even if the player types D*G |
| 23:09.02 | Bounty | It would still detect it as Dog |
| 23:09.56 | Bounty | Also, DeadZergling... I am currently contemplating where chat will be in the game and I think chat bubbles would be a nice solution |
| 23:10.10 | Bounty | Limited in size of course |
| 23:10.57 | Bounty | Because it seems these types of games (Death TV etc) make you focus on a lot on the position of your character and his surroundings rather then UI |
| 23:11.32 | JademusSreg | Errr, clarify? |
| 23:12.19 | Bounty | Like, would it be possible to detect words if the player attempts to conceal it |
| 23:12.22 | Bounty | like |
| 23:12.37 | Bounty | Say you have to get me to say a word |
| 23:12.48 | Bounty | and that word is Cat |
| 23:12.54 | Bounty | you could just type C*t |
| 23:13.01 | Bounty | and I would get it |
| 23:13.09 | Bounty | so my question is, is there a way to detect that type of cheating? |
| 23:13.53 | JademusSreg | Gotta hijack the chat entirely, and even then bnet social features can circumvent. As can any live mic. |
| 23:14.22 | Bounty | What if you only searched for non letters? |
| 23:14.31 | JademusSreg | Nerp. |
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| 23:29.13 | anarch | Bounty: |
| 23:29.23 | Bounty | anarch |
| 23:29.38 | anarch | this question about detecting words, what is the context of this problem? |
| 23:29.49 | Bounty | Its a thought exercise |
| 23:30.02 | Bounty | Trying to figure out if its possible to create the game Catchphrase in SC2 |
| 23:30.14 | Bounty | and also Charades |
| 23:30.24 | Bounty | but I think I solved the Charades one |
| 23:30.29 | anarch | im not farmiliar with that game |
| 23:30.37 | anarch | i mean catchphrase |
| 23:31.21 | Bounty | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c85-4S7_V6c |
| 23:31.25 | Bounty | thats catchphrase anarch |
| 23:35.48 | anarch | so are you asking your original question incase people misspell words? |
| 23:37.12 | Bounty | or just try to conceal what they are saying |
| 23:37.23 | anarch | oh i see |
| 23:38.16 | anarch | i dont see why you wouldnt be able to do that, assuming sc2 allows something like C/C++ code in the maps |
| 23:38.58 | anarch | there are string search functions, such as substring, which allow you to insert wildcard characters |
| 23:39.34 | anarch | the details could get tricky though, like how mcuh tolerance do you allow them? what if they answer *** |
| 23:39.41 | anarch | do they get credit for dog? |
| 23:39.44 | anarch | what about **g |
| 23:40.29 | Bounty | its not the person giving the answer |
| 23:40.35 | Bounty | its the person giving the clues |
| 23:40.48 | Bounty | the rules are that you cannot say any word in the clue while trying to get your partner to guess it |
| 23:41.33 | anarch | so are you saying you would want to flag d*g as cheating then, because they are attempting to communicate the answer |
| 23:43.01 | Bounty | yeah |
| 23:43.03 | Bounty | exactly |
| 23:46.10 | anarch | i understand now |
| 23:46.18 | anarch | might take some creativity but i think its defintiely doable |
| 23:46.46 | anarch | using a series of substring searches |
| 23:46.51 | anarch | maybe the logic could be something like |
| 23:46.54 | anarch | d*g |
| 23:47.13 | anarch | does answer start with d? does it end with g? does it have 1 letter in between? cheater? |
| 23:47.21 | anarch | if answer to any of those is no, not-cheater |
| 23:47.40 | anarch | the string of checks would be derived from the clue they enter |
| 23:47.50 | anarch | to analyze the clue they give compared to the answer |
| 23:48.39 | Bounty | What I was thinking was just searching for characters that are not letters |
| 23:48.47 | Bounty | then the only thing left is spaces |
| 23:48.49 | Bounty | so you could go |
| 23:48.51 | Bounty | D G |
| 23:49.24 | anarch | so just omit even looking at the non-letter characters? |
| 23:51.39 | Bounty | There would be no reason for them so |
| 23:52.46 | anarch | what about this then... |
| 23:52.52 | anarch | dZg |
| 23:53.03 | anarch | would that logic not flag this as _not_ a cheating clue? |
| 23:53.09 | anarch | since Z is a letter |
| 23:53.16 | anarch | that technically doesnt match |
| 23:53.50 | anarch | i guess it would help to clarify what you want their limitations to be ahead of time |
| 23:53.58 | anarch | what can they, and can they not provide in the clue |
| 23:54.10 | anarch | can they provide the number of letters? i.e. XXX |
| 23:55.06 | Bounty | Starting to think this is impossible |
| 23:55.10 | anarch | there are a lot of clever ways people may think to mast a clue |
| 23:55.13 | anarch | GOD |
| 23:55.15 | Bounty | Well, not impossible but insanely difficult |
| 23:55.16 | Bounty | lol |
| 23:55.18 | anarch | backwards :D |
| 23:55.40 | anarch | i think so too, it seems to be an uphill battle vs peoples cleverness |
| 23:55.42 | Bounty | Well, technically you could do that anarch |
| 23:55.43 | anarch | but it may be possible |
| 23:55.55 | Bounty | and it would be legal |
| 23:56.06 | anarch | could my phrase be: Backwards of GOD |
| 23:56.11 | Bounty | but the clues in Catchphrase are usually phrases |
| 23:56.27 | Bounty | Yeah, that would be fine |
| 23:56.46 | Bounty | Ehhh |
| 23:57.02 | Bounty | Now that I think about it, I think thats strictly a text issue with this game |
| 23:57.09 | Bounty | since its usually played with voice and body movements |
| 23:57.22 | Bounty | can't really spell backwards in that position lol |
| 23:58.21 | anarch | yea i see |
| 23:58.35 | anarch | 1 option could be to set a "match tolerance" |
| 23:58.43 | anarch | and check each word in the clue against the answer, and get a % match |
| 23:58.46 | anarch | so like |
| 23:58.56 | anarch | gXX would be a 33% match to the answer dog |
| 23:59.20 | anarch | so if you set the tolerance at 25% or something, you could elliminate clues that are too similar to the answer |
| 23:59.33 | anarch | you could even also run the match check against the backwards answer and other combinations |
| 23:59.40 | anarch | "the answer is GOD backwards" |
| 23:59.58 | anarch | would reveal a 100% match when it compares GOD against the backwards answer |
