| 01:19.29 | draktok | Hey Bounty |
| 01:19.32 | draktok | http://i.imgur.com/TBigt8s.jpg |
| 01:19.39 | draktok | Here's an image you can see some of the custom terrain |
| 01:21.08 | DeadZergling | is nifty, but I still just hate the look of war3 |
| 01:21.19 | DeadZergling | why are you going for that again Bounty ? lol |
| 01:21.46 | Bounty | Why not? |
| 01:22.15 | DeadZergling | suppose, same reason for me learning modeling |
| 01:22.39 | draktok | i don't like some of the structures |
| 01:22.45 | draktok | but, at proper angle |
| 01:22.48 | draktok | they don't look AS bad |
| 01:22.53 | draktok | but in that zoom angle, you really see the age of them |
| 01:23.11 | draktok | a lot of them have been retextured by the community or pulled from WoW, so if you want wc3 buildings, it's not like you have to use them |
| 01:23.22 | draktok | but there is a nice look at some of the heroes and terrain in game, which looks nice :) |
| 01:23.53 | DeadZergling | I'm just not a fan of the cartoony look I guess |
| 01:24.38 | DeadZergling | could place daffy duck, mickey mouse in there, and they wouldn't look out of place |
| 01:26.02 | draktok | Hmm |
| 01:26.06 | draktok | they'd be a little out of place ;) |
| 01:26.18 | draktok | but, i understand your meaning |
| 01:35.35 | DeadZergling | yea, hard to describe what makes something cartoony, but I certianly know what is, lol |
| 01:35.48 | DeadZergling | perhaps overly simplified + overly exagerrated |
| 01:41.09 | DeadZergling | is odd that I have such a distaste for cartoony graphics in video games, as I have certainly watched my share of cartoons/anime, lol |
| 01:41.18 | Bounty | I don't understand how you can dislike such a broad type of art style like "Cartoony" lol |
| 01:41.54 | DeadZergling | I guess I just dislike how it instantly ensures you know that all you are playing is just a game |
| 01:41.58 | DeadZergling | no immersion for you |
| 01:43.39 | DeadZergling | I can get more into Super Mario for NES than I can anything cartoony graphics, lol |
| 01:43.52 | Dustin_Hendricks | I don't like cell shading |
| 01:43.56 | Dustin_Hendricks | Ugly to me |
| 01:44.14 | DeadZergling | example Dustin_Hendricks ? |
| 01:44.33 | Dustin_Hendricks | http://cdn.cheatcc.com/images/imageswiiu/thelegendofzeldawindwakerhd_preview_1.jpg |
| 01:45.07 | DeadZergling | yes, that is ugly, as is the cartoony art style |
| 01:45.44 | Bounty | I think it looks fine lol |
| 01:46.17 | Dustin_Hendricks | I've jjust hated the shit outa cell shaded games for awhile now cause they all look like poop to me |
| 01:46.30 | DeadZergling | I guess you have to live in New Jersey to appreciate these sorts of things |
| 01:47.17 | Bounty | lol |
| 01:47.41 | DeadZergling | nice to see you doing shit again btw Bounty , you know, stuff that isn't going to the hospital |
| 01:47.59 | Bounty | Don't jinx it. |
| 01:48.30 | DeadZergling | oh right, you practice dark magic in NJ |
| 01:48.41 | DeadZergling | no worries, I have no dark arts skill, no jinxing can occur from me |
| 01:53.23 | DeadZergling | I certainly do have odd ideas of what music to listen to though, currently listening to the fully phantasy star 2 soundtrack, lol |
| 01:55.42 | DeadZergling | by the way, are you secretly a model/texture master, Dustin_Hendricks ? |
| 01:56.40 | Dustin_Hendricks | hahaha |
| 01:56.58 | Dustin_Hendricks | I can make basic shapes and textures in Blender |
| 01:57.00 | Dustin_Hendricks | That's about it |
| 01:57.21 | Dustin_Hendricks | I made a sweet gun model in Milkshape back in early 2000's lol |
| 01:57.48 | DeadZergling | nps, just having issues importing SC2 models and such |
| 01:58.23 | DeadZergling | here is my masterpiece thus far, lol, http://ctrlv.in/502181 |
| 01:58.38 | DeadZergling | I might try to reacquire GIMP now, make a better texture for that pink face |
| 01:59.21 | DeadZergling | texture more skin like, and a good bumpy map might make a huge difference there |
| 02:04.24 | Dustin_Hendricks | I still can't get use to GIMP |
| 02:04.27 | Dustin_Hendricks | To many years in PS |
| 02:06.41 | DeadZergling | it was a switch from PSP for me, but I consider myself decent with it now |
| 02:07.01 | DeadZergling | what I'm not decent with however, is playing the game of which download button really downloads the fucking program |
| 02:08.02 | Dustin_Hendricks | Lol that's actually a decent cacao demon |
| 02:08.43 | DeadZergling | I fused the top teeth, eye, and pick face together |
| 02:08.55 | DeadZergling | so I can just rotate/move that some, and he can do his fireball attack |
| 02:09.06 | Dustin_Hendricks | niceee |
| 02:09.31 | DeadZergling | I tried just having a fancy grouping of all, but that failed miserably |
| 02:10.02 | DeadZergling | teeth would escape his gums, eye would float way up, and at one point, a tooth somehow fell off during animation, and would magically re attach |
| 02:10.10 | Dustin_Hendricks | lol |
| 02:10.54 | DeadZergling | I was really worried earlier yesterday, he went from being hideous for awhile, to, cute and plush looking |
| 02:12.55 | DeadZergling | well as you should know by now Dustin_Hendricks , I am ridiculously hard on anything I make, even if this is my first real attempt at a model |
| 02:15.22 | DeadZergling | that and of course, this is the standard I was attempting for, https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTLBWTTUu6EbPEmTdqLK25qkdhHY_BGL3GijDlmLCIml448CwwF9g |
| 02:28.02 | DeadZergling | well if you want to get disgusted for a bit, be sure to google raw skin pictures |
| 02:28.30 | draktok | http://i.imgur.com/6wgmbnr.jpg |
| 02:28.32 | draktok | Some of these |
| 02:28.35 | draktok | things |
| 02:28.37 | draktok | look better than other |
| 02:28.53 | draktok | Like, the farm is a nicer looking model than the king of shrines or w/e is called to summon your heroes, bizzare |
| 02:29.24 | DeadZergling | oh, I was just focused on how the pixel face of the unit looked better than the animated one, lol |
| 02:29.25 | draktok | and the bastards kept the same low rez icons xD |
| 02:29.28 | draktok | couldn't even pretend to update them |
| 02:29.49 | draktok | but, that's true |
| 02:29.51 | draktok | what the hell lol |
| 02:32.15 | DeadZergling | fuck, just what I never needed to see, harlequin babies |
| 02:37.35 | draktok | meh |
| 02:38.17 | draktok | i wish sc support dynamic footprints |
| 02:38.26 | draktok | or maybe it does, and i'm dumb |
| 02:39.43 | Dustin_Hendricks | You can give new footprints I believe |
| 02:40.16 | draktok | by upgrading? |
| 02:40.26 | draktok | Ie, i want a building i build to be 3x3, but when it upgrades, it gets smaller |
| 02:40.45 | draktok | but the problem, is even if i can do that, it might be hard for the building to become a smaller footprint already, because the grid is static |
| 02:41.08 | draktok | hey bounty here is the last beauty shot i will bug you with ;) http://i.imgur.com/Lks2kaf.jpg |
| 02:41.20 | draktok | the terrain is def heroes of the storm though |
| 02:41.23 | draktok | no doubt in my mind |
| 02:56.39 | draktok | Is dota 2's editor released in any capacity? |
| 02:59.55 | Dustin_Hendricks | It is, some super basic alpha version |
| 03:06.04 | draktok | Anyone here played with it yet? |
| 03:11.26 | DeadZergling | fucking 3ds max, let me reset my fucking materials, lol |
| 03:21.45 | DeadZergling | huew, there we go |
| 03:22.05 | Dustin_Hendricks | I messed with it when it first came out, it was like trying to make maps with the leaked version of the Galaxy editor we jacked back in the day |
| 03:22.17 | Dustin_Hendricks | Fucking horrible |
| 03:22.33 | Dustin_Hendricks | Dont know if they've updated it since |
| 03:23.04 | DeadZergling | no idea, I'm using the 2011 version for SC2 reasons |
| 03:25.49 | DeadZergling | nevermind, my material editor is still fucked up the ass |
| 03:34.04 | DeadZergling | geez, just how much pounding and jizz can this thing take |
| 03:34.12 | DeadZergling | just be default, fucker |
| 03:42.20 | DeadZergling | well, looks like I need to find a version of the cacodemon where I did no textures whatsoever |
| 03:42.39 | DeadZergling | how to assign multiple textures apparently also showed me how to fuck my material editor for good |
| 03:54.12 | draktok | that's good to know dustin |
| 03:54.16 | draktok | i won't bother trying to find it then |
| 03:54.16 | draktok | fuck it |
| 03:59.50 | DeadZergling | I'll have to rexture the other stuff, but that looks better: http://ctrlv.in/502338 |
| 04:03.16 | DeadZergling | bump map can probably be better than me scribbling a few wavy lines too, lol |
| 04:04.20 | DeadZergling | and going home half an hour later than I should, thanks material editor fucking me over |
| 04:04.24 | DeadZergling | see you all later :) |
| 04:50.53 | draktok | Well I got my map playable, but, it's simply just modifying a ton of numbers now |
| 04:51.04 | draktok | I don't konw how i will do some things, but i am hopeful :) |
| 04:51.18 | draktok | would you guys think using wc3 hero units to kill zerglings would be too weird |
| 04:51.25 | draktok | Should i stick with wc3 units for entire map? |
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| 05:36.21 | draktok | Oops |
| 05:36.22 | draktok | I got lost |
| 05:36.28 | draktok | I have no idea if anyone had ever responded to me |
| 05:47.07 | DeadZergling | what'd you say, lol |
| 05:50.19 | draktok | is it weird to have wc3 units killing zerglings |
| 05:50.25 | draktok | or should i keep all wc3 units :d |
| 05:51.13 | DeadZergling | is weird to have a map without zerglings |
| 05:53.13 | draktok | thats what i thought |
| 05:53.13 | DeadZergling | at least for SC, BW, or SC2 |
| 05:53.21 | DeadZergling | anyways, this face looks MUCH better, http://ctrlv.in/502370 |
| 05:53.25 | draktok | hey do you know what behavior i need to set for a building to default to whoever is nearby |
| 05:53.32 | draktok | IE, i want a nuetral market anyone can use |
| 05:53.42 | draktok | its coming along yes :) |
| 05:54.11 | DeadZergling | i forget to be honest, onetwo had a tutorial on that though |
| 05:54.17 | DeadZergling | a youtube one |
| 05:54.17 | draktok | hm |
| 05:54.22 | draktok | i don't think i need one |
| 05:54.23 | draktok | i'll just compare |
| 05:54.27 | draktok | but side note |
| 05:54.34 | draktok | there is a thing i set up |
| 05:54.37 | draktok | and i gave it the ability to train all units |
| 05:54.50 | draktok | but it keeps training a different unit than the one i have it set to |
| 05:54.59 | draktok | IE it's set to spawn a marine, but it spawns a zergling when you click it |
| 05:55.04 | draktok | have you seen that :o |
| 05:56.08 | DeadZergling | sounds like a case of overlapping buttons |
| 05:56.16 | draktok | I not sure |
| 05:56.18 | draktok | I will play |
| 05:56.21 | DeadZergling | not sure, but the 25-30 ability limit might still be in place |
| 05:56.26 | draktok | I figured out how to make it select unit as a nuetral though BTW |
| 05:56.39 | draktok | You just have to givee the nuetral building the ability to select unit |
| 05:56.41 | draktok | and be highlightable |
| 05:56.47 | draktok | and it will let you train out of it :) |
| 05:57.20 | DeadZergling | cool, I do very little with buildings at all, besides make enemy units out of them, lol |
| 05:57.30 | DeadZergling | I did set one up to sell potions though |
| 05:57.31 | draktok | I'm using it to select hero at the start |
| 05:57.41 | draktok | Because, I do not know how to set up the fancy UI to select a hero |
| 05:57.43 | draktok | like the popular games :) |
| 05:57.55 | ArcanePariah | draktok: For the neutral building that anyone can use, you use an Interact ability |
| 05:57.57 | draktok | i know how to do it out of a tavern like the classic warcraft games though xD |
| 05:58.00 | DeadZergling | heh, making a fancy ui would be easier for me, lol |
| 05:58.26 | ArcanePariah | Interact ability allow shared control, shared vision. You can set them to be exclusive to one player or allow any number of players to use them. |
| 05:58.27 | draktok | Well if you'd like to explain in detail or link me to a thread that does it i will do it but i have not done any type of unit selection via ui ever so |
| 05:58.33 | DeadZergling | wonder what would make a good texture for the red body, have to think about that one |
| 05:58.39 | draktok | Hm, arcane that is good to know |
| 05:58.50 | draktok | Interact ability, thanks |
| 05:58.53 | ArcanePariah | For reference, see the Xelnaga Watch tower |
| 05:59.35 | draktok | boom |
| 05:59.37 | draktok | and we're done |
| 05:59.38 | ArcanePariah | You will want to set it to autocast. |
| 05:59.40 | draktok | I have a working market :d |
| 05:59.47 | draktok | that was easy |
| 05:59.51 | draktok | i just miss that thing alone :D |
| 06:00.14 | ArcanePariah | Interact abilties have a companion ability, that works somewhat in reverse. |
| 06:00.38 | ArcanePariah | There are battery abilties, that work bascially like the protoss sheild battery of SC1. What they do is run an effect when they are right clicked |
| 06:00.45 | draktok | I have mine set to auto cast, share control, smart command |
| 06:00.54 | draktok | so that if you bring a 'hero' unit to it |
| 06:00.58 | ArcanePariah | The smart command is unneccessary |
| 06:00.59 | draktok | it will allow you to use control |
| 06:01.03 | draktok | what is smart command |
| 06:01.06 | draktok | I just enabled it ;D |
| 06:01.15 | ArcanePariah | Smart command makes the ability castable by just right clicking |
| 06:01.25 | draktok | it doesn't really matter for a nuetral market then huh |
| 06:01.42 | ArcanePariah | Correct. It would only be relevant if it was a unit you were manually sharing out. |
| 06:02.29 | ArcanePariah | For instance, you could create a defense drone for a base defense that could be set to interact with an allied player, allowing you to assign control to a player. |
| 06:03.27 | ArcanePariah | Since the ability has direct use of validators, you can get somewhat creative with it |
| 06:03.50 | ArcanePariah | Like have a game where right clicking from it shares vision, but you limit how many units gets its vision |
| 06:04.21 | ArcanePariah | Variety of possible application. Key thing is that it allows single unit sharing of vision and control. |
| 06:04.23 | draktok | makes sense |
| 06:04.35 | draktok | I don't think i need to raise it to a complication to that point, but if i do, that is good to know i have the ability |
| 06:04.41 | draktok | it could create interesting interactions.. |
| 06:04.59 | draktok | For the shop that i have set up, is it smart enough to differ heroes for different players? |
| 06:04.59 | ArcanePariah | The single unit part is crucial because it means you do not have to resort to triggers to do per unit sharing |
| 06:05.09 | draktok | IE, will one player buy an item, and the shop will give it to the other hero? |
| 06:05.14 | draktok | or does it say, player 1 bought it, player 1 gets it |
| 06:05.26 | ArcanePariah | It gives it to the player who issued the command |
| 06:05.32 | draktok | That's good |
| 06:05.33 | ArcanePariah | So the latter example will be the case |
| 06:05.37 | draktok | I remember having an issue with that in wc3.. |
| 06:06.00 | draktok | This is the thing i'm stuck on now, when i click demon hunter, it spawns archmage, i will show you the command card and the ability, maybe you can tell me |
| 06:06.06 | draktok | http://i.imgur.com/tX6FMe0.png - command card |
| 06:07.20 | ArcanePariah | If you could, can you change to XML mode (its the 3rd mode option, next to Table and Detail) and paste the XML for the unit and ability at this site https://paste.ee/, and post the link back ehre. |
| 06:07.21 | draktok | http://i.imgur.com/YKrFdIo.png |
| 06:07.22 | draktok | ability |
| 06:07.29 | draktok | oh ok i will do so |
| 06:07.58 | draktok | do you want the xml for the shop, and for the ability? |
| 06:08.08 | ArcanePariah | Yes |
| 06:08.29 | ArcanePariah | For the train ability and for the unit that is doing the training |
| 06:09.22 | draktok | Hm |
| 06:09.28 | draktok | Perhaps the problem i have is that I am using a mod |
| 06:09.41 | draktok | I don't know which mod because there is data, and art, it will take me a moment |
| 06:09.44 | draktok | to find the right xml xD |
| 06:10.09 | ArcanePariah | Because you are doing modifications, you will want your data |
| 06:11.32 | ArcanePariah | Also, if you want, I can explain how the data editor fundamentally works. |
| 06:11.42 | ArcanePariah | And possibly save you some time and work. |
| 06:12.09 | draktok | I feel i have a grasp, but i haven't played with editor since... 2012? or so, last time i played, you couldn't post in EU, so i got angry because i had no friends to upload my map in Eu and us |
| 06:12.11 | draktok | so then i stopped |
| 06:12.14 | draktok | also other complications |
| 06:12.15 | draktok | but that was one |
| 06:12.43 | ArcanePariah | Understandable |
| 06:13.26 | ArcanePariah | Well, if you are ever up for it. I can textually explain it or do a skype session if you would like. |
| 06:13.44 | draktok | anyways, this is the xml (i hope i did this right) for the ability "altar of elders - train", it is the ability to train a demon hunter |
| 06:13.45 | draktok | https://paste.ee/p/kafo8 |
| 06:14.24 | draktok | https://paste.ee/p/9KCT9 |
| 06:14.32 | draktok | and this is xml for the market that i gave the ability to train |
| 06:14.37 | draktok | but when i train, it summons archmage always |
| 06:14.38 | draktok | lol |
| 06:15.56 | draktok | when i summon demon hunter from the basic altar, it works |
| 06:16.00 | draktok | but from the market, it summons archmage |
| 06:16.35 | ArcanePariah | I'm assuming you are using the War3 data mod that Blizzard recently published? |
| 06:17.31 | draktok | yes - well, renee's |
| 06:17.37 | draktok | because renee created all the data into the game already |
| 06:17.43 | draktok | as in, the abilities and such |
| 06:17.56 | ArcanePariah | Ok. This is using the PTR editor? |
| 06:18.09 | draktok | yes |
| 06:18.17 | draktok | i don't know how to move something like this to live |
| 06:18.19 | draktok | i don't think i can |
| 06:18.26 | ArcanePariah | You can not yet. |
| 06:20.00 | draktok | i don't think anything is wrong with the ability |
| 06:20.03 | ArcanePariah | Ok, so this is absed off War3 (GA) and War3 Extra (GA), correct? |
| 06:20.04 | draktok | since it works on the normal altar |
| 06:20.13 | draktok | i just don't know why i can't put the ability on the nuetral market i made |
| 06:20.16 | draktok | yes |
| 06:20.27 | ArcanePariah | No I don't think so either, but I want to make sure I understand how it is setup and thus correctly sort out the problem. |
| 06:21.13 | draktok | yes i haven't even scratched the surface and i already broke it :D |
| 06:22.58 | draktok | does the button i use matter? |
| 06:23.06 | draktok | IE, do i have to use the specific button that the altar uses? |
| 06:23.06 | ArcanePariah | It should not |
| 06:23.20 | ArcanePariah | Buttons merely reflect the visual of the ability. |
| 06:23.44 | draktok | that's what i thought |
| 06:23.47 | draktok | i removed archmage from it |
| 06:23.50 | draktok | now the button will not do anything |
| 06:23.51 | draktok | lool |
| 06:23.56 | draktok | i click and nothing spawns |
| 06:29.50 | ArcanePariah | I find it interesting that Renee made all id's into 4 characters |
| 06:30.14 | draktok | what do you mean |
| 06:30.16 | draktok | is that good or bad |
| 06:30.29 | ArcanePariah | Neither, just reflects the style of the person |
| 06:31.22 | draktok | oh |
| 06:31.24 | draktok | organized? |
| 06:31.52 | ArcanePariah | To a degree yes, though every coder/programmer/software person has their own style and approach to organizing things. |
| 06:32.23 | draktok | maybe this is the reason people use a UI to select a hero instead of what i'm doing |
| 06:32.27 | draktok | taverns, old wc3 style |
| 06:32.27 | ArcanePariah | Some include information in the names of objects, even if you can see the object |
| 06:33.07 | ArcanePariah | Well, that had more to do with the limits of Wc3, in that its UI was unalterable, whereas SC2 is completely open, very little can not be changed. |
| 06:33.16 | ArcanePariah | And you can create your own UI objects and elements |
| 06:33.23 | draktok | because now i have to create the trigger for if player uses ability summon x hero (with that redone for every hero) i have to kill the unit selector and spawn the unit on that teams side |
| 06:33.25 | draktok | hmm |
| 06:33.44 | draktok | Right, but i only know how to do the tavern selection BECAUSE of wc3 |
| 06:33.50 | draktok | I don't konw how to edit the ui for a hero selection lol |
| 06:34.05 | ArcanePariah | Understandable, all in good time :D |
| 06:34.15 | ArcanePariah | As for the trigger, it will be a single trigger |
| 06:34.22 | ArcanePariah | Triggers can have multiple events |
| 06:34.35 | ArcanePariah | And there is a trick to avoid even that for what I believe you are trying to do. |
| 06:37.14 | draktok | Well basically i just have a tavern in the corner with a "wisp" selector, so when the player picks his hero, the wisp should die and the hero should be moved, or spawn, on their corresponding side |
| 06:37.19 | draktok | does that explain more how i attempt to do it? :) |
| 06:37.27 | ArcanePariah | I'm having difficulty with my editor atm. What I would suggest, since it appears you are using the actual marketplace unit from WC3 and altering it, would be to duplicate it and build it somewhat from scratch. This avoids any conflicts with the existing data. |
| 06:37.48 | draktok | perhaps that is a good idea :) |
| 06:37.54 | draktok | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:37.56 | draktok | I was just being lazy |
| 06:37.57 | draktok | ;) |
| 06:38.05 | draktok | i'm going to try one more thing last |
| 06:38.11 | ArcanePariah | Intersting, and yes, most today would build a custom gui select screen with dialogs and not have units involved at all and use triggers solely. |
| 06:38.13 | draktok | and that is to compile the train hero abilities into one ability |
| 06:38.18 | draktok | as opposed to 4 as the game currently treats them |
| 06:38.34 | draktok | yes, that is because i am too much of a wc3 player LOL |
| 06:38.53 | draktok | I'm sure there is a tutorial for the customer gui select |
| 06:38.59 | draktok | i should just read up on it huh.. |
| 06:39.08 | ArcanePariah | Yes, for better or worse, SC2 is vastly more powerful then WC3, at the cost of being a bit more complex. |
| 06:39.24 | ArcanePariah | You will want to read up on Dialogs |
| 06:39.27 | draktok | the gui is still simple |
| 06:39.43 | ArcanePariah | Perhaps, but as you might see, the data editor is vast. |
| 06:39.46 | draktok | can i run my simple triger by you and you can tell me if it is the best way to handle the trigger? |
| 06:39.52 | ArcanePariah | Sure |
| 06:40.09 | draktok | Okay - so the idea of the trigger is |
| 06:40.24 | draktok | If a unit dies on one side, it will spawn 2 on the other |
| 06:40.28 | draktok | pretty simple |
| 06:41.13 | draktok | shoot i don't know how to view xml in the trigger editor |
| 06:41.23 | ArcanePariah | Because triggers are not done in XML :D |
| 06:41.36 | ArcanePariah | One moment, let me get you the tool for you to show me. |
| 06:41.53 | ArcanePariah | http://peeeq.de/gui.php?game=sc2 |
| 06:41.59 | draktok | http://i.imgur.com/Z4s4MuM.png |
| 06:42.05 | draktok | well that's a very simple trigger so i just took a picture :d |
| 06:42.18 | ArcanePariah | Select the trigger code, copy as text into that and hit the button, then post a link to here. Understood, but for future referecne :) |
| 06:42.41 | ArcanePariah | Ok, the triggering unit in the event does not work. |
| 06:42.52 | draktok | How come :D |
| 06:42.58 | ArcanePariah | The event is based on a unit dying. Triggering unit retrieves the unit that died. |
| 06:43.15 | ArcanePariah | So you will want Any Unit |
| 06:43.29 | draktok | Not triggering unit? |
| 06:43.34 | ArcanePariah | Correct |
| 06:44.09 | ArcanePariah | The triggering unit function is what allows you to ascertain what unit died. |
| 06:44.23 | ArcanePariah | So the value is only set after the event occurs |
| 06:45.30 | draktok | Ok |
| 06:45.34 | draktok | that removed the error in my map |
| 06:45.37 | draktok | before, it worked |
| 06:45.40 | draktok | but it gave script error |
| 06:45.42 | draktok | now it is gone :) |
| 06:46.20 | ArcanePariah | Yes. What would happen is that it would use the default value, since that function would return something anyhow, and it would use that. |
| 06:47.37 | draktok | Ok |
| 06:47.42 | draktok | So i decided to build a GUI |
| 06:48.41 | draktok | now i need to find the tutorial |
| 06:48.43 | draktok | that is relevant |
| 06:48.49 | draktok | I find a lot of tutorials are outdated.. |
| 06:49.14 | ArcanePariah | Yes, that is a problem. I hope to try to rectify that, if I have time. Sadly time is something that is often in short supply :( |
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| 06:50.02 | IskatuMesk | anyone know good way to turn diffuse into albedo |
| 06:50.12 | ArcanePariah | albedo? |
| 06:50.22 | IskatuMesk | remove lighting information |
| 06:50.37 | IskatuMesk | basically to just extract colors from a texture |
| 06:50.47 | ArcanePariah | Unfortunately no |
| 06:51.22 | IskatuMesk | well butts |
| 06:51.34 | IskatuMesk | luckily most of this stuff doesn't have much in the way of baked lighting |
| 06:51.43 | IskatuMesk | if I was to try to convert wow models it would be an issue |
| 06:52.24 | IskatuMesk | did anyone release a functional m3 importer yet |
| 06:52.33 | IskatuMesk | (not for heroes, just normal sc2) |
| 06:57.15 | IskatuMesk | I see |
| 06:57.22 | IskatuMesk | in that case, have an image |
| 06:57.47 | IskatuMesk | http://imgur.com/lOC7dgq |
| 07:00.10 | draktok | i don't know what i'm looking at |
| 07:00.12 | draktok | but it looks pretty |
| 07:00.34 | IskatuMesk | basic modular geometry |
| 07:00.58 | IskatuMesk | http://i.imgur.com/6ddjpFQ.jpg |
| 07:01.14 | IskatuMesk | just really simple stuff to get me into unreal 4 |
| 07:01.51 | draktok | what are you planning on creating in unreal 4? |
| 07:01.58 | draktok | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/tutorials/33449-dialog-custom-dialog-technique/#p10 |
| 07:02.09 | draktok | I think this is the best tutorial i can find, arcanepariah |
| 07:02.12 | draktok | do you know of a better one? |
| 07:02.14 | IskatuMesk | private game project |
| 07:02.21 | IskatuMesk | similar to DMC |
| 07:03.43 | IskatuMesk | http://i.imgur.com/jZ2DnTn.jpg that was a mesh from unreal warfare era... very old. Managed to get it looking quite good |
| 07:03.47 | IskatuMesk | with basically minimal effort |
| 07:04.04 | IskatuMesk | I can port models from basically any unreal engine game |
| 07:04.36 | draktok | do you know what that means |
| 07:04.57 | draktok | it means, you could make the very next call of duty 69(tm) with the same assets they've been using since call of duty 4(tm) |
| 07:05.10 | IskatuMesk | yep |
| 07:05.20 | draktok | with minimal effort (tm) |
| 07:05.35 | IskatuMesk | I can be a tacticool mall ninja |
| 07:06.28 | IskatuMesk | the next thing I need to figure out is a pipeline of converting .nif format objects/characters |
| 07:07.05 | IskatuMesk | but I think some of the older ones have baked lighting, which is not good for this engine |
| 07:07.48 | IskatuMesk | I think only like 1-2 people that have been here have dealt with modern rendering though... |
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| 07:20.14 | draktok | ArcanePariah are you there for a trigger question :) |
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| 07:38.16 | draktok | hello |
| 07:38.52 | DeadZergling | he will probably get back to you, just might be awhile |
| 07:50.08 | draktok | I typed hello |
| 07:50.11 | draktok | in the wrong irc |
| 07:50.12 | draktok | sorry :D |
| 07:55.01 | DeadZergling | nps, I'm just pretending I know how to animate things |
| 07:55.20 | DeadZergling | apparently certain animations simply aren't allowed, at least not the way I was trying |
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| 08:00.49 | draktok | that's unfortunate |
| 08:00.53 | draktok | but, i know nothing of animation |
| 08:00.53 | draktok | :) |
| 08:01.14 | draktok | If i don't sleep tonight I think i will have playable version of my map which is just a recreation of my old wc3 map :D |
| 08:01.22 | draktok | I forgot how much i enjoyed map making |
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| 09:18.47 | draktok | well |
| 09:18.54 | draktok | i have a wisp man that successfully picks your hero but |
| 09:19.10 | draktok | 2 of his ... 16 abilities don't show up on the list. I set them all up exactly the same but just 2 of 16, just are not there, invisible, hidden |
| 09:27.51 | DeadZergling | things tend to be that way draktok , works in progress. At least it isn't a total disaster like this guy, lol, http://ctrlv.in/502414 |
| 09:28.11 | draktok | lol i like that |
| 09:28.14 | draktok | I fixed the wisp thing |
| 09:28.22 | draktok | I now have the core game reset up in only 6 hours of work |
| 09:28.31 | draktok | Literally all I need to do now is modify values of the heroes, items, etc. |
| 09:28.38 | draktok | But the core gameplay is now 100% playable :) |
| 09:29.15 | draktok | but, value modification is time consuming, and i also want to create upgrades and such that don't currently exist to purchase, so it will become more time consuming |
| 09:29.27 | draktok | but at this rate i will definitely have a playable demo by next week |
| 09:29.33 | draktok | and something to submit to blizzard ;D |
| 09:30.29 | DeadZergling | yea, just make sure you play it through a few times before you do that, lol |
| 09:31.09 | DeadZergling | damnedest things tend to happen out of nowhere |
| 09:39.07 | DeadZergling | oh well, that's enough modeling for now, can try again Monday, should actually mod now that it is the weekend |
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| 09:54.10 | DeadZergling | hi duckies |
| 09:54.16 | duckies | hey dz |
| 09:54.58 | DeadZergling | I'm done modeling for the time being, here is how far my horror got, http://ctrlv.in/502414 |
| 09:55.55 | duckies | hm |
| 09:56.08 | duckies | I here by dub hi - the watermellon-eye guy |
| 09:56.14 | duckies | *him |
| 09:56.20 | DeadZergling | no, texturing wasn't a magic bandaid as I hoped, lol |
| 09:56.37 | DeadZergling | yea, I thought it looked rather melony too |
| 09:58.17 | duckies | hm, for a guy who knew 0 about modeling 2 days ago this is kinda impressive |
| 09:58.25 | duckies | makes me wanna try it too :3 |
| 09:59.26 | DeadZergling | as far as I'm concerned, I may still know 0, lol |
| 09:59.49 | duckies | does he have animations? |
| 10:00.11 | DeadZergling | I can do a basic one, but I don't get how to do multiples or anything like that yet |
| 10:01.03 | duckies | so you can't make an animation to make his horn spin around causing him to lift-off? |
| 10:01.04 | duckies | :s |
| 10:01.07 | duckies | bummer |
| 10:01.44 | DeadZergling | well, that one I could actually do with the knowledge i have atm |
| 10:01.52 | DeadZergling | I just wouldn't probably want to do that, lol |
| 10:02.48 | DeadZergling | anyways, can either wait for me to go to sleep, then wake up 10ish hours from now, or did you just want to play now duckies ? |
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| 10:03.55 | duckies | won't your focus be ~20% of your normal condition causing you to fail all the time and want to sleep rather than play at this hour? |
| 10:04.17 | DeadZergling | naw, I can often play best when I'm supposed to be sleeping |
| 10:04.26 | duckies | okay, lets play then |
| 10:04.32 | duckies | Logging in rhight now |
| 10:04.35 | DeadZergling | played through the whole game with 15 lives to spare last time I was supposed to be sleeping, lol |
| 10:04.45 | DeadZergling | EU or US? |
| 10:04.51 | duckies | US |
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| 10:36.27 | Draktok | I should sleep |
| 10:36.31 | Draktok | To spend valentines day with wife |
| 10:36.38 | Draktok | I wish she appreciated my hard mapping work :) |
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| 10:43.27 | Knalle | Hello! |
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| 10:58.54 | Knalle | Is there any life here? |
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| 11:29.53 | DeadZergling | there is life Knalle , just life that isn't very responsive typically |
| 11:34.25 | DeadZergling | looks like somebody who barely played decided to write a 2 star review for me duckies , sigh |
| 11:35.24 | duckies | can't be helped |
| 11:35.40 | DeadZergling | I know, but still annoying |
| 11:36.36 | Goa_ | life is a bitch |
| 11:43.55 | DeadZergling | well if life is a bitch, it needs to put out more |
| 11:55.47 | TwoDie | titis |
| 11:59.25 | DeadZergling | hi TwoDie , good to see you still alive after seeing my horrible cacodemon, lol |
| 12:00.50 | TwoDie | yeah u are horrible!! |
| 12:00.51 | TwoDie | OMG |
| 12:01.58 | TwoDie | img |
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| 12:16.30 | TwoDie | hey guys a guy came to ask u a question |
| 12:18.35 | DeadZergling | well hopefully this update works as intended duckies, decreased amount of extra spawns by 25 %, but boosted stats for 2 player games, and further boosted stuff for 3-4 players |
| 12:18.52 | DeadZergling | hard to say how it works out, but easier to adjust like that honestly |
| 12:23.04 | DeadZergling | so who and what question TwoDie? |
| 12:25.09 | Serashin | I have some questions actually <3 |
| 12:28.25 | Serashin | How would i go about validating / limiting a summoning spell that summons a unit with no collision. Like i want it like this . when below 75 % health (this one is obvious) it autocasts every 30 seconds this spell . however after the first cast it should not be able to spawn it within a radius of the last summon and search then instead on outside radius till it can spawn it |
| 12:28.37 | Serashin | autocast of course |
| 12:29.51 | DeadZergling | caster life 75 % or less validator, along with an enumerate area searching for that summon validator at least |
| 12:30.25 | DeadZergling | is also possible to make it not able to spawn another one until that one dies |
| 12:30.47 | Serashin | i tried area limiting validator and the unit t ype |
| 12:30.50 | DeadZergling | but you said just within a certain radius, so enumerate area it will have to be |
| 12:30.50 | Serashin | both didnt work |
| 12:30.53 | Serashin | it spawned either way |
| 12:31.01 | Serashin | had radius for region aswell |
| 12:31.22 | DeadZergling | you added the validators to autocast validators, i assume |
| 12:31.33 | Serashin | i did try both |
| 12:31.38 | Serashin | validators autocast |
| 12:31.48 | DeadZergling | screenshots of both validators and the ability would be helpful :) |
| 12:32.18 | DeadZergling | also, if you used a combine validator, is important to ensure it is AND, not OR |
| 12:34.50 | Serashin | hmmm , will look shortly into it . i think i have something simpler for you to fix |
| 12:36.06 | DeadZergling | that one isn't particularly bad, is just helpful if I can see what you did |
| 12:36.10 | DeadZergling | makes it easier to spot the error |
| 12:36.14 | Serashin | i wanted to limit a watchtower to 3 seconds duration and 10 seconds cooldown . couldnt find another way then adding a scan spell . i think i just managed to make it only cast when the intended triggered units are close to it . what now isnt working is following : vision gain of that scan isnt visible for the one who takes the watchtower |
| 12:36.51 | Serashin | yeah i know but this will take like 4 or 5 screenshots i think i can do it shortly |
| 12:36.58 | Serashin | but my hopes are higher for the watchtower :P |
| 12:38.21 | DeadZergling | i assume your enumerate area has a validator to ensure it checks for a specific unit too? |
| 12:38.55 | DeadZergling | i'd need to see that one too :) |
| 12:39.42 | DeadZergling | adding a scan spell, sure it is casting for the right player? |
| 12:40.19 | Serashin | thats the confusing part . when i make the watchtower by default my team it will give me the vision . but the watchtower overtake doesnt seem like you gain full control over it |
| 12:40.23 | Serashin | as it stays tagged neutral |
| 12:42.17 | DeadZergling | probably an issue with the interact ability, something I have only used once and that was out of a tutorial, lol |
| 12:42.27 | DeadZergling | could be really lazy and just use triggers |
| 12:43.23 | DeadZergling | add a delay to any player who acquires the watch tower, they can't reacquire until then |
| 12:43.35 | Serashin | wouldnt that affect map performance ? such a repetive trigger |
| 12:43.57 | DeadZergling | but yea, maybe someone else knows more about that, what I'd do is try to go back to just basic acquiring, make sure that is flawless, then go back to adding rules |
| 12:44.04 | DeadZergling | just to be sure it is even acquiring properly period |
| 12:44.10 | DeadZergling | not really |
| 12:44.26 | DeadZergling | just do a check every .1 or .2 seconds, be fine |
| 12:44.29 | Serashin | triggers are like my big weakness xD |
| 12:44.56 | DeadZergling | be better if it was data though, be easier to have multiple towers then |
| 12:45.16 | DeadZergling | anyways, any screenies inc for the other issue, I shoulda been in bed an hour ago |
| 12:45.18 | Serashin | yeah the map has 16 towers :S |
| 12:45.21 | DeadZergling | need to get out of here soon :) |
| 12:45.45 | Serashin | i just got german editor |
| 12:47.10 | Serashin | i currently try to find the translated validator so its annoying to deal with |
| 12:48.59 | Serashin | Better go sleep then for you , i got some issues that will take a bit till my head even understands them . I appreciate the help through |
| 12:49.21 | DeadZergling | nps, for the first issue it sounds like you have the right idea |
| 12:49.36 | DeadZergling | just the validators aren't set up quite right |
| 12:50.11 | DeadZergling | the second one, if your map allows more than 1 unit per player, for what you want to do... It might not even be possible without triggers, lol |
| 12:50.21 | DeadZergling | at least the way I'm thinking about it |
| 12:51.03 | DeadZergling | unless you only want it per unit basis that they can't claim for 10 secs, not per player |
| 12:52.04 | Serashin | yeah i do want to have it that way that if one takes it that it will apply global cooldown |
| 12:52.10 | Serashin | in a sense of snatching away |
| 12:52.25 | DeadZergling | yea, triggers might be the way to go then |
| 12:52.45 | DeadZergling | is a lot better tracking playerwide cooldown like that, at least for me |
| 12:53.28 | DeadZergling | anyways I'm out before I find something else to do for who knows how long, later all :) |
| 12:53.47 | Serashin | peace |
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| 18:13.53 | Serashin | Does someone have here broad knowledge of Movers ? |
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| 19:19.07 | Ahli | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/game/maps-and-mods/tutorials/missile-movers/ |
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| 19:48.44 | Serashin | i was reading that one Ahli but couldnt make sense out of it , also no matter what numbers i changed that could have made any sense had any impact on the result |
| 19:58.02 | Serashin | anyone know what could affect autocast range ? i am needing about 100 range for my spell , set the spell range and the autocast to it , but it doesnt shoot more then about 20 ~ range max |
| 19:58.22 | Serashin | manualy it will shoot , but not on autocast |
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| 22:52.41 | Bounty | If anyone needs the war 3 textures that Renee has in her mod, let me know as I have extracted them |
| 22:52.47 | Bounty | Just be sure to still give credit to her |
| 22:56.07 | Repo | notd-2: 03ArcaneDurandel 07mainline * dbec81a (8 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Demo Sprint |
| 22:58.06 | Bounty | ArcanePariah, is it safe to start a map using the PTR editor? |
| 22:58.15 | Bounty | Like, will it transfer right over when it goes live |
| 22:58.18 | ArcanePariah | I would say yes |
| 23:28.39 | pirate | I have a neutral unit (environmental boulder trap) that leaves behind a dust trail as it rolls over players |
| 23:29.39 | pirate | despite setting the unit and each actor to Fog Visibility: Visible, the dust trail still vanishes immediately as the boulder unit leaves a player's vision |
| 23:30.46 | pirate | the dust trail is created at the caster on a periodic search behavior (boulder crushing nearby units) |
| 23:31.28 | pirate | the dust trail remains visible as desired if I set it's host is set to Actor: Creation |
| 23:32.26 | pirate | HOWEVER, using Creation screws up the dust trail being created at the boulder unit's origin (important because the boulder crosses bridges and can fall down cliffs) |
| 23:32.39 | pirate | help |
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| 23:39.31 | Draktok | Sup guys |
| 23:41.56 | DeadZergling | hi Draktok , not a lot, just trying to rebalance Death TV, again, lol |
| 23:42.04 | Draktok | That's good |
| 23:42.34 | Draktok | I've built the entire basics of my map, i'm literally done with the core game outside of shiney things (dialog boxes), from here I just have to balance the current units |
| 23:42.40 | Draktok | IE... nerf illadan cause immolate is op :D |
| 23:42.47 | DeadZergling | Got a question that I may not like the answer to, is there a way to launch a missile effect from a certain point targeting another certain point without having to use a unit for one end of the chain? |
| 23:43.33 | DeadZergling | this is in triggers, of course |
| 23:43.46 | Draktok | Hmm, personally I've never attempted such a thing, any time i've done a missile effect (which has almost always been using data to create a new weapon type for a unit) |
| 23:43.56 | Draktok | i have never attempted via triggers, |
| 23:44.45 | Draktok | i dont like triggers because i usually map when i am a little out of my mind up top and the triggers verbage confuses me more often than not, i only use them when necessary to avoid making something overly complicated, and otherwise stick to data |
| 23:44.53 | Draktok | which is a horribly ineffecient way to map, but oh well |
| 23:45.10 | pirate | @DZ using Create Effect at Point from Player? |
| 23:45.18 | Bounty | Wait, you find solidarity through the Data Editor? Is that what you're saying? lol |
| 23:45.24 | Draktok | yes |
| 23:45.24 | Draktok | :) |
| 23:45.32 | Bounty | You cray cray |
| 23:45.43 | Draktok | That's what every tells me |
| 23:45.48 | Draktok | I even created floating text through the data editor |
| 23:45.50 | Draktok | instead of triggers |
| 23:45.51 | Draktok | LOL |
| 23:46.07 | Bounty | I need to learn how to do that, it is kind of annoying in triggers |
| 23:46.14 | Bounty | doing it with text tags |
| 23:46.14 | Draktok | floating text? |
| 23:46.16 | Draktok | ah |
| 23:46.17 | Bounty | yeah |
| 23:46.26 | Bounty | its just an actor right? |
| 23:46.27 | Draktok | yes it is nice, but, it also doesn't seem to be as smooth |
| 23:46.51 | Draktok | i have it refresh every .1 second or w/e and it still doesn't float up as 'fluid', but it looks fine, so w/e |
| 23:46.51 | Bounty | It looks smooth to me, I think DeadZergling uses it in Death TV |
| 23:46.56 | Draktok | he might |
| 23:47.17 | Draktok | well, for me i was trying to reduce the amount of times it was refreshing |
| 23:47.30 | Draktok | due to a building just doing it, so with 8 players and the data refreshing so often |
| 23:47.33 | Draktok | i think impacted performance |
| 23:47.38 | Draktok | so i reduced the amount of times it refreshed |
| 23:47.42 | Draktok | which caused it to not be as fluid |
| 23:47.46 | Draktok | but, still fine |
| 23:48.07 | Dustin|Work | Can you do dynamic numbers with Actor Text Tag? |
| 23:48.23 | Bounty | Good question Dustin |
| 23:48.32 | Bounty | Could be kind of important to have |
| 23:48.45 | Draktok | Hm |
| 23:48.47 | Draktok | I don't know |
| 23:48.55 | Bounty | I would think you can? For damage numbers and stuff |
| 23:48.57 | Draktok | I will open my old map and play with it and get back to you sometime this weekend :) |
| 23:49.12 | Draktok | I haven't used data text tags in a while |
| 23:49.19 | Bounty | btw I extracted all the textures Draktok |
| 23:49.21 | Bounty | amazing |
| 23:49.28 | Draktok | Quality huh? |
| 23:49.29 | Bounty | Better then SC2 textures lol |
| 23:49.31 | Draktok | I like them a lot |
| 23:49.40 | Draktok | Yeah, well, they are from heroes of the storm, so i guess it kind of makes sense |
| 23:49.58 | Bounty | Yeah, heroes of the storm has a more Warcrafty style so they fit perfectly |
| 23:50.14 | Bounty | 45mb of textures though lol |
| 23:50.18 | Draktok | Yep! i would show you a picture of what i've done with it so far but my computer crashed while i was gone so i lost my terrain work :D |
| 23:50.19 | Draktok | oh well |
| 23:50.23 | Bounty | but I think the editor compresses DDS very well |
| 23:50.43 | Draktok | I'm curious how much these dependencies effect load times for people with slower computers |
| 23:50.57 | Bounty | It should be a one time download |
| 23:51.07 | Draktok | doesn't it effect load time still though? |
| 23:51.15 | Draktok | I don't really know, my load time is really great regardless, i have a SSD :p |
| 23:51.23 | Bounty | Load times? Don't think so |
| 23:51.38 | Bounty | Who doesn't have an SSD these days? |
| 23:51.48 | Draktok | Hmm, my roommate ;D |
| 23:51.51 | Draktok | HE doesn't understand.. |
| 23:52.06 | Bounty | 500gb Samsung 840 something is what I use |
| 23:52.10 | Draktok | also, i don't know if you were here yesterday when i was complaining that my train unit ability was training the wrong unit |
| 23:52.21 | Draktok | it seems that having a unit that have 4 different abilities to train units causes conflicts |
| 23:52.26 | Bounty | Was like $400 when I bought it... 200 a few months later :( |
| 23:52.31 | Draktok | but if you group all the training into one ability it will work fine |
| 23:52.54 | Bounty | *shrug* I never use data for stuff like that |
| 23:52.59 | Draktok | I just bought another 256 (crucial m5) because a local shop had it on sale for 100$ |
| 23:53.01 | DeadZergling | pirate left huh, I tried that, it only works for one point |
| 23:53.07 | Bounty | Never made a data driven ability in my life |
| 23:53.07 | DeadZergling | not for 2 specifics |
| 23:53.17 | Draktok | Just create an invisible unit with no footprint |
| 23:53.19 | Draktok | unselectable |
| 23:53.24 | Bounty | what are you trying to do DeadZergling? |
| 23:53.25 | Draktok | ;p |
| 23:54.17 | DeadZergling | I want a missile launched (the infestor one basically, just a diff unit) from point A to point B without needing a unit |
| 23:54.24 | DeadZergling | besides the missile unit, obviously |
| 23:54.44 | Bounty | Oh... data stuff |
| 23:54.47 | Bounty | >.< |
| 23:54.54 | Dustin|Work | I dont have an SSd yet bounty :( |
| 23:54.58 | DeadZergling | not really, by triggers |
| 23:55.04 | Draktok | can you create the missile unit at point, then spawn the missile moving, then kill the missile unit spawned to start the other one moving :d |
| 23:55.10 | Bounty | Its probably good that you waited Dustin, they are a lot cheaper now |
| 23:55.17 | ArcanePariah | Dustin|Work, ????????????????!!!!!??!? |
| 23:55.20 | DeadZergling | no SSD here either, think it would be too crap in my current machine |
| 23:55.27 | Bounty | The one I bought for $400 is probably like $100 now |
| 23:56.10 | Dustin|Work | It's next on my list of shit to get |
| 23:56.19 | DeadZergling | I know I could make a crap no draw invuln unit to launch from, but it bothers me I don't know how |
| 23:57.33 | Bounty | I didn't believe the SSD hype until I got one, pretty crazy |
| 23:57.40 | DeadZergling | I would be open to a trigger driven ability Bounty , fyi |
| 23:57.48 | Bounty | 12.18 TB written to it so far and its still in good condition |
| 23:58.10 | Bounty | So you just want it to go from Point A to Point B and explode DeadZergling? |
| 23:58.12 | DeadZergling | what was the hype? |
| 23:58.21 | Bounty | insanely fast load times |
| 23:58.44 | DeadZergling | well, just want from point A to point B, with an arc like an infestor infested terran egg would have, but the egg will be a zergling instead |
| 23:59.08 | Bounty | what do you mean by Arc? like a throwing arc? throws it up and it lands at point B |
| 23:59.20 | DeadZergling | point A will always be the same, point B will be a random point inside a region |
| 23:59.27 | DeadZergling | right, throwing arc |
| 23:59.32 | Bounty | Ah ok |
