| 00:19.42 | DeadZergling | look forward to seeing your first iterations anyways bounty |
| 00:31.39 | DeadZergling | you have a name picked out already Bounty? |
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| 00:43.53 | Bounty | no |
| 01:04.43 | DeadZergling | I see, I've decided I need to attempt to model something with the tools i been learning about |
| 01:05.00 | DeadZergling | probably coulda started a little easier than Caco-demon, but should be amusing to see what I end up with |
| 01:37.16 | Zolden | u end up giving a hardcore rimjob to random people in a subway without a reason |
| 01:55.42 | Zolden | DeadZergling u https://playwithmbs.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/spongebobmmo.gif |
| 01:56.32 | DeadZergling | and thus why Zolden isn't allowed to put fortunes in cookies |
| 01:58.05 | DeadZergling | well at least I'm doing a good job making cacodemon horns, lol |
| 02:08.57 | DeadZergling | It is currently very sad I know, but at least someone who played doom would know what it was going to be, lol http://ctrlv.in/501807 |
| 02:27.09 | DeadZergling | feel like a fucking dentist making his gumlines, lol |
| 03:03.18 | DeadZergling | huew, he looks threatening finally, http://ctrlv.in/501823 He was looking really plush and cute for awhile there. |
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| 08:28.11 | DeadZergling | you awake Merc ? |
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| 18:46.36 | draktok | who is bored and can answer a question...? :D |
| 18:46.44 | draktok | that has played with the war3 stuff on PTR |
| 19:06.34 | duckies | btw draktok |
| 19:06.52 | draktok | jmm? |
| 19:06.54 | draktok | hmm? |
| 19:07.21 | duckies | the answer to question about "[2/13/2015 12:38:09 PM] Error: Dependency data could not be loaded. Dependency file could not be found (Mods\WarCraft\WarCraft.SC2Mod)" |
| 19:07.27 | draktok | yes |
| 19:07.29 | draktok | that is my question :D |
| 19:07.38 | duckies | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/general/general-chat/74782-official-war3-assets-released/?page=4#posts |
| 19:07.47 | Repo | New map: Age of Heroes - http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/age-heroes/ |
| 19:07.47 | duckies | it's somewhere on this page |
| 19:11.30 | draktok | Duckies |
| 19:11.32 | draktok | I appreciate it |
| 19:11.34 | draktok | it worke |
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| 19:12.22 | duckies | excellent! |
| 19:13.32 | duckies | I hereby bind you by the law of appreciation to make use of wc3 assets and to make a glorious map! appereciapta~! |
| 19:13.54 | duckies | has applied a "mapmakers duty" on draktok |
| 19:14.24 | draktok | I already had a map using wc assetts, from the high poly remakes by players, but i got bored and ran out of assetts to use |
| 19:14.29 | draktok | so now i have many billions more assetts |
| 19:14.32 | draktok | I will make best map :) |
| 19:16.04 | duckies | such is the fate of all those bound by mapmakers ambition. May your efforts not be wasted, godspeed~ |
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| 19:33.09 | draktok | to be honest |
| 19:33.12 | draktok | I just plan to recreate |
| 19:33.16 | draktok | Rabbits vs sheep |
| 19:33.19 | draktok | And then i'm done again |
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| 19:50.10 | ArcanePariah | Good morning |
| 19:50.24 | ArcanePariah | spies a duck |
| 19:51.15 | ArcanePariah | Hello draktok and welcome. If you have any editor question, fire away, I'll see if I can answer them (which I usually can) |
| 19:51.58 | ArcanePariah | I'm the resident expert (read: lunatic) around these parts, mostly on data, but do a bit of everything. |
| 19:53.13 | draktok | does |
| 19:53.16 | draktok | Zolden and bounty |
| 19:53.18 | draktok | still hang out |
| 19:53.21 | draktok | used to bug zolden a lot |
| 19:53.23 | ArcanePariah | Yes and Yes |
| 19:53.23 | draktok | ;) |
| 19:53.38 | ArcanePariah | Well, add me to the list to bug :) |
| 19:53.42 | draktok | ok! |
| 19:53.42 | Bounty | I've been known to linger. |
| 19:53.46 | draktok | Yes bounty |
| 19:53.52 | draktok | Are you going to make photon cycles |
| 19:53.55 | draktok | wc3 edition now |
| 19:54.10 | draktok | I would gladly float around as arthas trying to gib people ... |
| 19:54.12 | Bounty | Nope |
| 19:54.16 | draktok | hehehe |
| 19:54.17 | Bounty | >.< |
| 19:54.23 | draktok | what are you working on now days? |
| 19:55.00 | Bounty | Going to be making a game using the War 3 assets. |
| 19:55.18 | Bounty | If I can get ground textures from WoW at least. |
| 19:56.48 | draktok | Not a fan of the ones renee has? |
| 19:57.38 | Bounty | There are no ground textures that Renee has? |
| 19:57.46 | Bounty | or does she have ground textures? |
| 19:58.31 | draktok | Well i'm not sure i guess |
| 19:58.36 | draktok | I just saw in the mod's she's uploaded |
| 19:58.48 | draktok | She's got war3 terrain |
| 19:58.58 | draktok | Let me open it :) |
| 20:00.41 | draktok | It doesn't like opening in my editor |
| 20:00.50 | draktok | every time i try to open war3 terrain it crashes my editor lol |
| 20:02.31 | Bounty | If she has all of the war 3 terrain... I could def use that |
| 20:04.00 | TwoDie | dick butt |
| 20:04.41 | draktok | I think she does bounty |
| 20:04.46 | draktok | It's loaded as a dependcy |
| 20:04.53 | draktok | Do you have the PTR client downloaded? |
| 20:05.32 | draktok | If so, go to dependencies / load other / mod name and search "war3" |
| 20:05.45 | draktok | and she's got 3, one for all the art assetts, one for the abilities preloaded, and one for terrain |
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| 20:08.17 | DeadZergling | hey TwoDie , question.... how do I animate a model without ruining it, multiple animations for that matter |
| 20:08.43 | draktok | things to do from her mod that loads... |
| 20:08.49 | draktok | or maybe idk why it doens't preload this stuff... |
| 20:08.59 | draktok | but the heroes hot keys are all over the place like classic warcraft 3 |
| 20:09.04 | draktok | why can't they all be QWER or something xD |
| 20:09.06 | Bounty | How come Renee has all of those assets and they're not in the damn official pack? lol |
| 20:09.12 | Bounty | Especialy the terrain |
| 20:10.03 | TwoDie | DeadZergling turn on Auto Key button |
| 20:10.30 | DeadZergling | yea, animating I'm doing okay, but it corrupts the model forever |
| 20:10.38 | DeadZergling | is never the same |
| 20:10.49 | draktok | Well Bounty |
| 20:10.49 | TwoDie | like on frame 0? |
| 20:10.52 | DeadZergling | it just wants to animate, refuses to be a regular model anymore |
| 20:10.54 | draktok | I think she manually created the data portions |
| 20:10.59 | draktok | because, blizzard just gave us the art |
| 20:11.04 | draktok | For the terrain, I don't know, i haven't opened it |
| 20:11.11 | draktok | It crashes for me but i'm sure i'm doing something wrong tbh |
| 20:11.28 | TwoDie | hard to tell what u doing wrong |
| 20:11.28 | DeadZergling | yea, it only lets me make one animation at all |
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| 20:11.44 | TwoDie | well there is time line |
| 20:11.44 | DeadZergling | well the animation is okay, but I want the ability to have multiples |
| 20:11.47 | TwoDie | u can expand it |
| 20:12.01 | DeadZergling | IE, SC2, can have walk, stand, attack |
| 20:12.05 | TwoDie | hold ctrl + alt + mouse click |
| 20:12.17 | TwoDie | u can add new animation |
| 20:12.38 | TwoDie | with specific start animation and end times |
| 20:13.11 | TwoDie | before starting from scratch animation u need to Copy Keys of Bones selected to match shit |
| 20:13.38 | DeadZergling | hrrrmm, that could be a problem, I have no bones, lol |
| 20:13.43 | TwoDie | as it continues animation from where it was left out on transformation |
| 20:14.11 | TwoDie | u making model from scratch? |
| 20:14.14 | TwoDie | or edting? |
| 20:14.30 | DeadZergling | model from scratch, it isn't amazing or anything, but is my first so, lol |
| 20:14.55 | TwoDie | better open blizzard example models and play with them |
| 20:14.56 | TwoDie | first |
| 20:15.01 | DeadZergling | I dub it, Crapodemon: http://ctrlv.in/502181 |
| 20:15.03 | TwoDie | as now u dont know basik |
| 20:16.00 | TwoDie | do u have Modifier SKIN |
| 20:16.04 | TwoDie | skin uses bones |
| 20:16.10 | TwoDie | and bones animates Mesh |
| 20:16.20 | DeadZergling | I tried those, but they never have their materials, at least with the taylor mouse stuff |
| 20:16.33 | draktok | dead |
| 20:16.35 | draktok | I like it |
| 20:16.41 | draktok | Reminds me of that game i used to play on atari... |
| 20:16.44 | draktok | I don't remember the name :) |
| 20:17.17 | TwoDie | Dead u have to add textures paths to materials |
| 20:17.33 | TwoDie | as materials assigned dont have Texture path |
| 20:17.38 | DeadZergling | you mean in user paths? |
| 20:17.41 | TwoDie | dont konw where to find the Texture |
| 20:18.03 | TwoDie | i mean Material Diffuse Normal Specular layers texture files |
| 20:18.13 | TwoDie | Model file only applies model stuff |
| 20:18.19 | TwoDie | Texture is separate file |
| 20:18.34 | TwoDie | and 3ds doesnt assigned with the Texture files to look for |
| 20:18.46 | TwoDie | and Importer itself doesnt try to find textures |
| 20:18.57 | TwoDie | so u have to open Material editor and click shit |
| 20:19.09 | TwoDie | save somewhere texture files on ur pc |
| 20:19.18 | TwoDie | and assign materials with textures |
| 20:19.46 | TwoDie | and then imported Models with display textures IF u press some button in material editor to display Texture in 3ds |
| 20:20.02 | TwoDie | as there is options to no to display texture in 3ds |
| 20:20.16 | TwoDie | and by default it doesnt display when material applied |
| 20:20.29 | TwoDie | at least SC2starnadar material |
| 20:23.19 | TwoDie | tits |
| 20:23.27 | DeadZergling | is rendering a zergling okay now |
| 20:23.45 | DeadZergling | I added the shared textures thing to external paths |
| 20:25.50 | DeadZergling | well it isn't quite atari old school draktok , is more 20-30 megs of HD space required being a space hog game old school |
| 20:25.51 | TwoDie | imported zergling? |
| 20:26.04 | TwoDie | by taylor tool? |
| 20:26.05 | DeadZergling | yea, it has weird blue boxes that won't go away, but it looks right |
| 20:26.06 | TwoDie | or what |
| 20:26.30 | DeadZergling | not sure if it was by taylor tool, just opened it with the top left box |
| 20:26.31 | TwoDie | blue boxes is Hit Test Fuzzy |
| 20:26.51 | TwoDie | its reponsible for engine to calcuate when u click model ingame |
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| 20:29.56 | DeadZergling | of course the SC2 examples are not m3 files either |
| 20:31.47 | TwoDie | well they are supporting Direct Opening with 3ds Max with no external need of importers like we seek for |
| 20:34.22 | DeadZergling | so opened a drone m3, no textures on that one, I have the textures on my machine though. Or is this one of those must have SC2 installed things? |
| 20:38.40 | Goa_ | wow, what a great game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmJRKgHt_D0 |
| 20:41.57 | TwoDie | ffs |
| 20:41.59 | TwoDie | DZ |
| 20:42.03 | TwoDie | just set things up |
| 20:42.34 | TwoDie | go to Material editor assign files missing |
| 20:42.40 | TwoDie | learn shit there |
| 20:44.16 | DeadZergling | that makes me think of duke nukem Goa_ |
| 20:59.21 | TwoDie | https://twitter.com/ClickHole/status/566326092315627520 |
| 21:00.01 | DeadZergling | nice link, are the other 9 female too? |
| 21:02.51 | TwoDie | good question |
| 21:03.01 | TwoDie | CLICK BAITED HARD BOYS |
| 21:03.16 | DeadZergling | I can never keep track of actresses, they all the same to me |
| 21:03.17 | TwoDie | "Â we have coming for you next week!" |
| 21:07.18 | draktok | dang |
| 21:07.20 | draktok | i did get click baited |
| 21:07.22 | draktok | :( |
| 21:08.00 | TwoDie | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8juHcw1Vbvw |
| 21:08.03 | TwoDie | fire starter |
| 21:08.21 | TwoDie | well fuck u then |
| 21:08.44 | DeadZergling | could be worse, my wife managed to acquire a dozen unwanted programs and about 1300 malware issues from downloading a muffin recipe |
| 21:08.58 | TwoDie | titis |
| 21:08.59 | TwoDie | gn |
| 21:18.02 | draktok | LOL |
| 21:18.09 | draktok | deadzergling i have the same problem with my wife |
| 21:18.16 | draktok | but she won't admit that it's because she downloaded something |
| 21:18.23 | draktok | it's "idk where it came from" |
| 21:18.32 | draktok | after she managed 70 pieces of malware on a laptop i purchased for her 2 days prior |
| 21:21.45 | DeadZergling | Favorite quote from my wife, "And that's bad?", this was after I found that her laptop HDD only had 500kb of space left on it |
| 21:23.32 | Bounty | My wife was playing FFXIV for like 2 years on a 8 year old PC and getting like 2 FPS. Finally convinced her to let me get her a new PC and now she has seen the light. |
| 21:23.53 | Bounty | "Wow, this is so much better" |
| 21:23.55 | Bounty | Yeah, no shit. |
| 21:30.00 | draktok | "yeah, no shit" |
| 21:30.05 | draktok | it's amazing, our wives |
| 21:44.37 | Bounty | Nobody is innocent when it comes to the charge of stupidity though lol |
| 21:44.51 | Bounty | I do tons of stupid stuff that when she points it out, I am ashamed. =P |
| 21:58.16 | Bounty | So, can you confirm that Renee has the War 3 ground textures in a mod draktok? |
| 21:59.34 | DeadZerglingAWAY | that's the real interesting difference between men and women. Are some radically intelligent guys, but at the same time, some guys are dumb as shit |
| 21:59.55 | DeadZerglingAWAY | women tend to be about the same intelligence, on average it is higher, but is far from saying all women are smarter then men |
| 22:01.22 | Bounty | Its even, its just diff types of intelligence that you can't measure |
| 22:02.24 | DeadZergling | it's okay Bounty , I know how you really feel, you just have to type that because she is watching |
| 22:02.29 | Bounty | Not that you can really even measure ANY type of intelligence lol |
| 22:02.59 | Bounty | lol please, I don't change who I am for her >.< |
| 22:03.09 | Bounty | May as well not be with her if I had to do that |
| 22:04.49 | DeadZergling | anyways, see my sad excuse for a cacodemon Bounty ? |
| 22:05.12 | Bounty | Looked good IMO |
| 22:05.18 | Bounty | You just started like 2 days ago |
| 22:05.32 | Bounty | It shows that your head is in the right place |
| 22:06.00 | DeadZergling | I'm happy with the spikes/teeth, even the body isn't bad |
| 22:06.03 | Bounty | Going to texture it? =P |
| 22:06.07 | DeadZergling | but the pink face/eye leaves a lot to be desired |
| 22:06.14 | DeadZergling | that is textured, lol |
| 22:06.20 | DeadZergling | at least specular |
| 22:06.21 | Bounty | link again please? |
| 22:06.29 | DeadZergling | http://ctrlv.in/502181 |
| 22:06.31 | Bounty | I didn't see any detail at all |
| 22:06.49 | Bounty | Ah, reflective so far? thats it? |
| 22:06.54 | DeadZergling | yea, I don't understand textures enough to do that yet |
| 22:07.08 | Bounty | You should animate the boils on him to move |
| 22:07.12 | Bounty | and bubble |
| 22:07.15 | DeadZergling | I want to understand animating more first |
| 22:07.40 | Bounty | the purple part looks odd, outside of that good job IMO |
| 22:07.45 | DeadZergling | that is probably possible, but I want to just make different animations first |
| 22:08.01 | Bounty | is this going to be used in SC2 ? |
| 22:08.05 | Bounty | going to make an FPS? =P |
| 22:08.06 | DeadZergling | yea it looks awful, the doom version looks much better, lol |
| 22:08.22 | DeadZergling | if I can get it to a certain point, I might crap it in my 2 projects |
| 22:08.22 | Bounty | colors and texture are key IMO |
| 22:08.43 | Bounty | I wouldn't put it in Death TV |
| 22:08.53 | Bounty | You can't really see it well from a top down perspective |
| 22:08.58 | DeadZergling | you will only ever see it top down in Death TV |
| 22:09.07 | DeadZergling | I thought it could make rare appearances to make it harder |
| 22:09.26 | DeadZergling | that's exactly why I'd let it be in Death TV, it looks good from the top, lol |
| 22:09.33 | Bounty | From the perspective of Death TV, it would just look like a meatball with spikes |
| 22:09.51 | Bounty | unless thats what you're going for |
| 22:09.52 | Bounty | >.< |
| 22:10.12 | DeadZergling | that is roughly what a cacodemon is though, lol. I understand what you mean though |
| 22:10.36 | DeadZergling | I was able to fuse the eye/face/top teeth together, so it can actually do an attack animation |
| 22:11.55 | DeadZergling | animating the tendrils on the bottom proved to be a major pita |
| 22:12.08 | DeadZergling | learned some subtle things to know about set key, lol |
| 22:13.41 | DeadZergling | anyways Bounty , the actual modeling wasn't too bad to pick up, only took a few days |
| 22:13.59 | DeadZergling | I'm still a noob, but I can make it do things now at least |
| 22:15.06 | Ahli | hmm, I could use a java API that lets me edit files within an mpq... =/ |
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| 22:27.55 | draktok | hey Bounty |
| 22:28.04 | Bounty | Hello |
| 22:28.35 | draktok | I will show you |
| 22:28.37 | draktok | terrains that exist |
| 22:28.55 | draktok | http://i.imgur.com/auQ1q3b.jpg |
| 22:28.58 | draktok | They seem to be from |
| 22:29.01 | draktok | Heroes of the storm |
| 22:29.16 | draktok | Is that what you're looking for? |
| 22:29.54 | Bounty | I was hoping for War 3 terrains |
| 22:30.07 | Bounty | but those would work as well considering the art style of heroes |
| 22:30.14 | Bounty | are those in Renee's mod? |
| 22:30.49 | draktok | Well to be honest i'm not sure if that's just in the editor now, or her mod, i just create new map with her mods as the dependies, and there is 2 - Ashenvale (which i am taking picture of how) and lorderan for the tile sets to choose |
| 22:30.55 | draktok | that one i showed you is lorderons tileset terrains |
| 22:31.09 | draktok | taking of a picture of ashenvales now * |
| 22:31.43 | MiBird | Bounty, |
| 22:31.49 | MiBird | did you know that Ahli has excellent German grammar. |
| 22:32.28 | Bounty | Nice draktok, going to have to look more into this as it sounds exactly like what I need |
| 22:32.36 | Bounty | I am aware MiBird |
| 22:32.59 | draktok | Here bounty |
| 22:32.59 | Bounty | I am half german so I can tell. |
| 22:33.00 | draktok | http://i.imgur.com/4TYCwnQ.jpg |
| 22:33.05 | draktok | That's the ashenvale tileset |
| 22:33.09 | draktok | pretty good looking to me |
| 22:33.13 | Bounty | nice! |
| 22:33.16 | draktok | could use some blur |
| 22:33.21 | Bounty | yeah they are very good looking textures |
| 22:33.27 | draktok | but def warcrafty |
| 22:33.28 | Bounty | and thats in Renee's mod? which mod is it? |
| 22:33.28 | draktok | and less space |
| 22:33.30 | Bounty | yeah |
| 22:33.48 | draktok | for renee's mod to work you have to have 2 - if you search war3 it will pull up her 3 |
| 22:34.02 | draktok | use war3, and war3 extra to have the full melee data loaded |
| 22:34.04 | draktok | with abilities and such |
| 22:34.13 | draktok | and then war3 seems to be the ones that include the tilesets |
| 22:34.27 | draktok | war3terrain* i mean |
| 22:34.38 | Bounty | I'll just extract the terrain textures from her mod |
| 22:34.38 | draktok | So, load war3, war3 extra, and war3 terrain |
| 22:34.52 | draktok | well, yes if you only want the terrain and not the data |
| 22:34.58 | Bounty | Yeah thats all I need |
| 22:35.01 | draktok | i am using the war3 / war3extra because i don't want to create the abilities |
| 22:35.06 | draktok | and since she took the time to create all the abilities |
| 22:35.13 | Bounty | I've used tons of Renee's stuff in my games lol |
| 22:35.14 | draktok | i will modify them as opposed to creating from ground up :) |
| 22:35.41 | draktok | blizzard gave the art assets but didn't create a working warcraft in starcraft |
| 22:35.44 | draktok | that's basically what renee did |
| 22:35.48 | draktok | imported all the data.. |
| 22:36.00 | Bounty | Now all I have to do is design the map/world layout |
| 22:36.03 | Bounty | woohoo |
| 22:36.10 | draktok | so to be fair i think she has created the first 100% war3 to sc2 conversion so far |
| 22:36.26 | draktok | working inventories and all.. |
| 22:36.34 | draktok | I need to go play around with them to see how the inventories work and what not you know |
| 22:36.42 | Bounty | Renee has always created the best stuff in the community |
| 22:36.50 | Bounty | 'IMO |
| 22:36.50 | draktok | a lot of maps that use an inventory in sc2 simply don't work well |
| 22:36.56 | draktok | not as well as wc3 did... |
| 22:37.12 | draktok | so i'm curious if she's created one that doesn't make me wanna vomit ;) |
| 22:37.38 | Bounty | Well, what I plan to create is nothing like Warcraft 3 lol |
| 22:38.01 | draktok | well |
| 22:38.04 | Bounty | My first fully co op game (except Haunted Forest) |
| 22:38.06 | draktok | I am redoing rabbits vs sheep |
| 22:38.13 | Bounty | but I don't count Haunted Forest really |
| 22:38.15 | draktok | if you ever played that on wc3 |
| 22:38.22 | draktok | haunted forest was fun |
| 22:38.29 | draktok | i only played it once or twice |
| 22:38.30 | Bounty | Nah, I only ever played the Hero Arenas |
| 22:38.46 | DeadZergling | isn't gnolls vs trolls technically co-op too? or does it have to be co-op against ai to be co-op to you? |
| 22:38.48 | draktok | rabbits vs sheep was good, but never updated, and was protected map |
| 22:39.02 | Bounty | Co op VS AI DeadZergling |
| 22:39.13 | Bounty | Just because its team based does not make it co op IMO |
| 22:39.23 | draktok | I recreated it in wc3, but didn't get it working quite as well as the original due to misunderstanding of how he did somethings, and i never finished it quite |
| 22:39.29 | DeadZergling | well, you are co operating with others there too |
| 22:39.47 | draktok | i think, he means there is no competition though |
| 22:39.53 | Bounty | I know but the genre of co op as I understand it refers to PvE |
| 22:39.53 | draktok | he doesn't want a co - op competitive |
| 22:39.57 | draktok | Just, co - op |
| 22:40.25 | draktok | we had a lan party a week ago bounty |
| 22:40.26 | DeadZergling | I think we should agree that co - op is a poor term for what you mean, lol |
| 22:40.39 | draktok | played mostly wc3, but i convinced people to boot up sc2 to play some star party and other non sense |
| 22:40.49 | draktok | they were very impressed by photon discs / cycles / etc |
| 22:41.03 | draktok | =) |
| 22:41.07 | Bounty | >.< |
| 22:41.17 | Bounty | Should have booted up Tessera |
| 22:41.28 | draktok | couldn't get them to try too many |
| 22:41.28 | DeadZergling | co op vs AI would be better |
| 22:41.33 | draktok | but, still |
| 22:41.35 | draktok | We did! |
| 22:41.54 | draktok | We did Tessera, photon cycles, photon discs, zealot hockey, star party, and line tower wars |
| 22:42.13 | draktok | i was trying to show them abstract games as far as |
| 22:42.14 | Bounty | nice |
| 22:42.20 | draktok | stuff that is totally different than what you'd see on wc3 |
| 22:42.21 | Bounty | btw, I didn't make Photon Cycles |
| 22:42.27 | Bounty | in case you didn't know that lol |
| 22:42.32 | draktok | but, we had to finish with line tower wars.... bleh |
| 22:42.35 | Bounty | I only did Photon Discs |
| 22:42.37 | draktok | I know it |
| 22:42.49 | DeadZergling | Death TV is better for quick games nowadays draktok , lol |
| 22:42.49 | draktok | I just think of you when i hear photon now ;) |
| 22:42.58 | DeadZergling | I been working on making it shorter |
| 22:43.06 | draktok | deathtv? |
| 22:43.10 | Bounty | I think thats going to be an issue I face in my game DeadZergling |
| 22:43.16 | Bounty | not making it to long |
| 22:43.18 | draktok | photon cycles is great times when you are drunk though.. |
| 22:43.31 | DeadZergling | aye, Smash TV rip off, extremely similar to the original in many respects |
| 22:43.34 | draktok | is it going to be progression per game? |
| 22:43.44 | Bounty | my game draktok? no |
| 22:43.47 | draktok | as in, game might last 30, but some stats or something carry over? |
| 22:43.51 | draktok | ah |
| 22:43.55 | draktok | i dislike that in most games |
| 22:44.00 | draktok | especially ones that throw it in your face |
| 22:44.05 | draktok | or launch the game with the screen covered in unlocks |
| 22:44.09 | draktok | that mean nothing to a level 1 player |
| 22:44.16 | draktok | totally wack .. |
| 22:44.24 | Bounty | I mean, I might make certain characters unlockables that you have to find in rooms to unlock |
| 22:44.32 | DeadZergling | yea, arena/survival games, progression is a load of bullshit as far as I'm concerned |
| 22:44.32 | Bounty | but thats it |
| 22:44.38 | DeadZergling | those games should be about skill, and skill alone |
| 22:44.45 | draktok | just don't make it so fucking obnoxious to look at |
| 22:44.49 | draktok | i'm thinking of minerals here |
| 22:44.52 | draktok | mineralz |
| 22:45.22 | Bounty | I think my games are pretty nice to look at, but thats me and I'm bias |
| 22:45.46 | draktok | I think so |
| 22:45.48 | draktok | They don't hurt my eyes |
| 22:45.57 | Bounty | This will be my second time attempting something Warcraft themed though |
| 22:45.58 | draktok | I'm gonna try to get a game of tessera started |
| 22:45.59 | draktok | now that you remind me |
| 22:46.06 | Bounty | Gnolls VS Trolls was the first |
| 22:46.12 | draktok | I had a warcraft theme game, didn't finish it |
| 22:46.18 | draktok | but published what i had because it's kinda fun to mess around |
| 22:46.23 | draktok | called civilization warcraft |
| 22:47.35 | Bounty | but yeah, what do you think of unlockable characters that you unlock by finding and freeing them in certain rooms DeadZergling? |
| 22:47.56 | Bounty | I would like to use every single War 3 hero |
| 22:48.02 | DeadZergling | something to do, but I wouldn't be a fan of them being better than the basics |
| 22:48.08 | DeadZergling | but other people love that shit |
| 22:48.23 | Bounty | Nah they wouldn't be better |
| 22:48.24 | draktok | I think that's cool bounty |
| 22:48.35 | Bounty | I hate that shit as well DeadZergling lol |
| 22:48.42 | draktok | FYI i don't think renee's mod (if you used it for some reason, for the wc data) uses the new high def models |
| 22:48.44 | draktok | not sure why |
| 22:49.02 | Bounty | I'm just extracting the textures draktok |
| 22:49.08 | draktok | thats what i figured |
| 22:49.09 | Bounty | so I don't even need it |
| 22:49.15 | draktok | have you taken a look at the new models? |
| 22:49.27 | Bounty | of course, hence the game I am making |
| 22:49.30 | draktok | the ones that blizzard up-poly'd |
| 22:49.36 | draktok | they look very nice |
| 22:49.50 | draktok | are you going to use sc2 units for the AI, or is this 100% wc3? |
| 22:50.21 | Bounty | 100% war 3 |
| 22:50.26 | DeadZergling | I have your exact opposite problem Bounty , I think all my maps are AWFUL |
| 22:50.38 | draktok | what maps have you made |
| 22:50.40 | draktok | I always forget |
| 22:50.55 | Bounty | Thats a positive motivator for some people DeadZergling |
| 22:51.11 | DeadZergling | Horo RPG (which I still have yet to show on arcade), Death TV, and that cloud spokes contest thing, lol |
| 22:51.26 | Bounty | Def not me though, if I make a shitty game it bothers the fuck out of me and demotivates me lol |
| 22:51.31 | draktok | bounty want to join tessera? |
| 22:51.42 | Bounty | not atm draktok, sorry |
| 22:51.45 | Bounty | in dev mode |
| 22:51.59 | draktok | haha |
| 22:52.03 | draktok | did the textures motivate you? |
| 22:52.26 | Bounty | Yep |
| 22:52.35 | Bounty | I've been trying to find some for like 3 days |
| 22:52.51 | Bounty | bc I refused to start if I was not 100% I could get textures that fit |
| 22:52.54 | draktok | let me know if you want feedback on your terrain considering i pride myself to only be good at terraining TBh |
| 22:52.55 | draktok | :D |
| 22:53.09 | draktok | Did you pull them already? |
| 22:53.22 | Bounty | The terraining will be difficult since its a Binding of Isaac/Smash TV styled map |
| 22:53.29 | draktok | oooo |
| 22:53.33 | draktok | I can't stand binding of isaac |
| 22:53.35 | Bounty | nah I gotta redownload the PTR lol |
| 22:53.37 | draktok | the poop bugs me |
| 22:53.53 | DeadZergling | only the poop bugs you? |
| 22:53.57 | Bounty | The only thing from binding of isaac my game will have is the way the map is |
| 22:53.58 | Bounty | rooms etc |
| 22:54.10 | Bounty | I hate that binding of isaac is a shooter |
| 22:54.18 | DeadZergling | perhaps you should just call your game a rogue like then |
| 22:54.21 | Bounty | I think a game like that could be fun with melee |
| 22:54.35 | Bounty | idk what I'm going to call it DeadZergling, or even what it is |
| 22:54.37 | Bounty | lol |
| 22:54.42 | Bounty | I know it'll be fun though |
| 22:55.44 | DeadZergling | rogue likes been gaining popularity, but I'm not the biggest fan |
| 22:56.12 | Bounty | idk if I would even call it a rogue like though |
| 22:56.15 | Bounty | there is no permadeath |
| 22:56.23 | DeadZergling | is far too much about the RNG and less about personal ability |
| 22:56.25 | Bounty | you just lose all your levels when you die, and you respawn |
| 22:57.04 | DeadZergling | that and most of them, you can break the game and insta kill everything if you do it a few times, lol |
| 22:57.13 | DeadZergling | I was having some fun with Fatal Labyrinth |
| 22:57.37 | DeadZergling | decided to stop when I could 1 hit kill most everything, could kill the boss without even taking 1 hit |
| 22:58.08 | DeadZergling | one mechanic I loved/hated though, you could fall down a hole |
| 22:58.25 | DeadZergling | and have to redo not only the current level, but a remade last one with no items |
| 23:00.05 | draktok | bounty |
| 23:00.08 | draktok | you can make it a short game |
| 23:00.09 | Bounty | draktok |
| 23:00.12 | draktok | but make the rooms randomized that you use |
| 23:00.22 | draktok | that way no one will say "this game too long to finish" |
| 23:00.26 | draktok | but, still playable a lot |
| 23:00.28 | Bounty | The rooms visually will not be randomized |
| 23:00.31 | Bounty | whats within them will be |
| 23:00.32 | draktok | which changes the heroes you can rescue... |
| 23:00.42 | draktok | that's probably more feasible |
| 23:00.58 | draktok | just make me able to rescue firelord |
| 23:01.01 | draktok | he's my favorite ;D |
| 23:01.06 | Bounty | lol |
| 23:01.19 | draktok | can i be an easter egg |
| 23:01.29 | draktok | make me a hidden boss that gives nothing |
| 23:01.29 | Bounty | no? =P |
| 23:01.30 | draktok | :D |
| 23:01.37 | DeadZergling | rooms won't be randomized in how they are visually huh |
| 23:01.42 | draktok | no but it does sound different |
| 23:01.49 | DeadZergling | may as just make it warcraft TV then, with my boring arenas of blandness |
| 23:01.50 | draktok | deadzergling i go to play deathTV now... |
| 23:02.10 | DeadZergling | cool, I posted a new version Wed night |
| 23:02.15 | Bounty | Yeah DeadZergling, it'll be a world that is explored like Smash TV |
| 23:02.32 | Bounty | forests, deserts, cities etc |
| 23:03.17 | DeadZergling | what to do next with Death TV, make the arena terrain more interesting dynamically, or the new guns |
| 23:03.22 | draktok | 6 billion zones |
| 23:03.30 | draktok | well |
| 23:03.37 | draktok | i will tell you how long it takes to get a party |
| 23:03.40 | draktok | hopefully not long |
| 23:03.51 | draktok | i see that you can publish to other regions from the editor now |
| 23:03.57 | draktok | how long ago did that change |
| 23:04.07 | Bounty | Thats been in there for awhile now |
| 23:04.17 | DeadZergling | year at least I think |
| 23:04.17 | draktok | that's how long i don't make a map :) |
| 23:04.29 | draktok | is the EU servers more popular |
| 23:04.30 | draktok | ? |
| 23:04.40 | draktok | USA servers i host a game and take 15 minutes to get 2 .. |
| 23:04.47 | DeadZergling | dunno, I have Death TV on EU just in case |
| 23:05.13 | draktok | well |
| 23:05.16 | draktok | i'm sitting in the lobby |
| 23:05.20 | draktok | maybe eventually i will play a game of death |
| 23:05.22 | draktok | do i need all 4? |
| 23:05.31 | DeadZergling | no, 1-4, it scales |
| 23:06.02 | draktok | thats one worry of mine with rabbits vs sheep |
| 23:06.04 | draktok | when i finish it |
| 23:06.09 | draktok | is it's a competitive arena game |
| 23:06.16 | draktok | no way for it to be played with 1... |
| 23:06.21 | draktok | i won't make an AI |
| 23:07.27 | DeadZergling | yea, that is an issue games made for PvP have |
| 23:10.32 | draktok | i am bad at your game |
| 23:10.33 | draktok | but it is fun |
| 23:11.05 | DeadZergling | you have to get decent at it, but I played it through entirely last update just to be sure I didn't make it impossible, ended the game with 15 lives or something |
| 23:11.25 | DeadZergling | I'm a decent player, but I'm not like pro smash tv player or anything, lol |
| 23:11.54 | DeadZergling | glad you find it fun at least :) |
| 23:12.34 | draktok | cloak doesn't seem to do anything |
| 23:12.36 | draktok | they still chased me |
| 23:12.37 | draktok | xD |
| 23:12.48 | DeadZergling | yea, they can't actually hit you cloaked |
| 23:12.55 | DeadZergling | but they still chase, that is on my to do list |
| 23:13.13 | DeadZergling | I may just get rid of it too, cloak is no fun |
| 23:14.37 | DeadZergling | but is a bigger problem then just the melee chase units, is 3-4 dumb pathing units I need to adjust too |
| 23:15.33 | DeadZergling | I actually almost started on fixing cloak wednesday night, but said fuck it, I want to sleep, lol |
| 23:20.20 | draktok | well |
| 23:20.26 | draktok | i keep dying stuck on the barrels in the bottom door |
| 23:20.28 | draktok | as i do circles |
| 23:20.38 | draktok | i just beat tank gun torment room and i have 8 lives left LOl |
| 23:20.52 | DeadZergling | aye, those are intentional, no circling forever, lol |
| 23:21.34 | DeadZergling | you might be close to boss, might not. Is actually 3 unique level formats Area 1 can have at random |
| 23:21.51 | DeadZergling | I meant to do it for Area2/Area3, but haven't bothered yet |
| 23:23.33 | DeadZergling | Bounty, if you ever attempt modeling, I highly recommend this guy's tutorials: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpjEsqMfepOyAkyPi_t_hgg |
| 23:24.43 | DeadZergling | the funny thing is, Death TV is actually not that far from being rogue like if I want it to be |
| 23:25.13 | draktok | i killed the boss |
| 23:25.14 | draktok | of area one |
| 23:25.17 | draktok | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:25.19 | draktok | i am boned |
| 23:25.27 | DeadZergling | grats, enjoy the new enemies :) |
| 23:26.33 | DeadZergling | not necessarily, it is a lot more possible to farm lives in Area2, of course, if you do it wrong, is much easier to lose lives too... |
| 23:31.08 | draktok | yes |
| 23:31.08 | draktok | i died |
| 23:31.12 | draktok | gg me no re |
| 23:38.12 | DeadZergling | hehe, imagine that, Death in Death TV |
| 23:38.27 | DeadZergling | actually have an LPer playing that for me weekly right now too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bluokjQKlIQ |
| 23:39.55 | draktok | he's a much slower player than i |
| 23:40.00 | draktok | it took me 16 minutes to get there.. |
| 23:40.06 | draktok | to when he got to the boss |
| 23:40.12 | draktok | unless, he died and that was a second or third try |
| 23:40.24 | draktok | i'm gonna work on my map |
| 23:40.25 | DeadZergling | naw, you were playing the updated version |
| 23:40.33 | DeadZergling | I recently did a complete overhaul to make the entire game faster |
| 23:40.37 | draktok | due to the simple nature of the game i hope to have a working demo in a week or so |
| 23:40.52 | DeadZergling | cool, have to link us stuff later :) |
| 23:40.52 | draktok | to which people can enjoy rabbits and sheep again :D |
| 23:40.57 | draktok | also, if i use a mod that is on the PTR |
| 23:41.01 | draktok | is there a way to port it to live |
| 23:41.02 | draktok | ;) |
| 23:41.31 | draktok | i guess i could just save |
| 23:41.36 | draktok | i wonder if blizzard doesn't like that |
| 23:41.42 | draktok | although, it's just the wc3 assets... so meh |
