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| 02:24.42 | Bounty | Seen any new reviews on Death TV after the Lets Play DeadZergling? |
| 02:39.53 | DeadZergling | Not yet Bounty, probably what has to happen for that is me just sitting in the game for many hours to get it to show up on lists |
| 02:40.17 | Bounty | Yeah, thats usually what I had to do |
| 02:40.24 | Bounty | for all of my games lol |
| 02:50.58 | Bounty | So, I'm still having issues DeadZergling and I can't go back to the hospital because then they will think I'm a druggie haha |
| 02:51.12 | Bounty | Its turned into an all day thing |
| 02:51.49 | Bounty | Worst is I can't order my own blood tests (liver etc) without seeing a doctor. |
| 03:01.19 | DeadZergling | well, if you need to be seen, you need to be seen |
| 03:04.02 | Bounty | Its anxiety all day, panic attacks (or anxiety attacks?) when I try to go to sleep and side + back pain |
| 03:04.32 | Bounty | problem seems to be they always just blame it on anxiety and say I'm psyching myself out, which I am not. |
| 03:04.59 | Bounty | Unless this type of thing could really take place in the subconscious |
| 03:07.04 | Bounty | Shit is annoying, can't even think properly and brainstorm. |
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| 05:00.51 | DeadZergling | guess your system needed alcohol more than you thought |
| 05:06.55 | DeadZergling | lol Bounty , I like this review I spotted for mine. This is much better than Templar TV, I'm not sure why that was chosen over this for RTC |
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| 14:28.02 | SmerigeCDAers | Raziel, everyone always hates me. =( |
| 14:28.33 | Raziel | SmerigeCDAers, but y |
| 14:33.41 | SmerigeCDAers | Raziel, you tell me you hate me, don't you? |
| 14:34.04 | Raziel | nope |
| 14:54.10 | SmerigeCDAers | Raziel, didn't you want me banned from that channel? |
| 14:54.30 | Raziel | what channel |
| 14:57.35 | Raziel | SmerigeCDAers pls, are you sure it's not a different Raziel |
| 15:07.34 | SmerigeCDAers | Raziel, redditeu of course. |
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| 15:07.57 | Raziel | isn't on there |
| 15:08.08 | SmerigeCDAers | Hmm, you don't say |
| 15:08.15 | SmerigeCDAers | So you are not RAziel the famed Norwegian? |
| 15:08.36 | Raziel | Nope, I'm Raziel the not-famed person |
| 15:09.10 | SmerigeCDAers | Hmm, looks like it |
| 15:09.11 | SmerigeCDAers | funny. |
| 15:09.30 | Raziel | v: |
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| 19:27.41 | duckies | hey arcanePariah |
| 19:30.31 | duckies | I'm making sc1 type highground advantage thing (attacks can miss when attacking unit on highground from lowrgound) and trying to make it so that missed projectile hits random spot around unit model |
| 19:32.36 | duckies | so far I've made it so that it hits a random point in circrcle (added SOp in Actions Imacts Site Operations) but it oftentimes randoms to hit somewhere on the model too |
| 19:33.08 | duckies | so I'm wondering if there is any sensible way to exclude targets model from that |
| 19:33.27 | duckies | doesn't seem like it's possible but I thought no harm in doublechecking :D |
| 19:48.44 | Zolden | doubleducking |
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| 20:14.45 | DeadZergling | Hi Zolden, as it turns out, I suck at duplicating the look of the zergling/hydralisk you made earlier through actor events :) |
| 20:15.18 | Zolden | what do you mean? |
| 20:15.28 | Zolden | you failed to imitate tshose colors with tint coloring? |
| 20:15.50 | DeadZergling | used a combination of yellow omni light, opacity, tint coloring |
| 20:16.02 | DeadZergling | still looked awful, just looked like a dying ghost larva |
| 20:17.09 | Zolden | i could make you a larva, but not today and not tomorrow |
| 20:17.41 | DeadZergling | woot, that makes yesterday open! |
| 20:17.45 | Zolden | just use normal larva, then you change the model |
| 20:18.05 | Zolden | yesterday is taken by john lennon |
| 20:18.24 | DeadZergling | wait, so this is totally doable using just the starcraft 2 art tools? |
| 20:18.38 | Zolden | yea |
| 20:18.57 | Zolden | and in case of larva also tayloar mouse's importer to get the larva model |
| 20:19.21 | DeadZergling | but you know I don't have the other program, can I get away with it with only the SC2 art tools? |
| 20:20.10 | Zolden | max 2011? |
| 20:20.39 | DeadZergling | yea, not willing to pay for it and not willing to torrent it |
| 20:21.19 | Zolden | art tools without max is like a rimjob without ass |
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| 20:26.43 | duckies | don't worry DZ, from what I heard you can't legaly obtain max 2011 anyway :D |
| 20:26.55 | duckies | since they don't ever sell older versions |
| 20:31.56 | ArcanePariah | duckies, no way to guarentee, but in the random point in circle site op, change the distribution to gaussian. |
| 20:32.46 | ArcanePariah | Oh wait, there is a way duckies. Enable the flag "Restrict to Circumference" |
| 20:33.17 | ArcanePariah | That should force the site op to only choose random points on the circle edge. |
| 20:36.13 | duckies | oh wow, thank you so very much, you pretty much know everything it seems <3 |
| 20:36.40 | duckies | also, I've learned a new word today =D |
| 20:37.35 | duckies | oh god, I would have know it too if I only had known that word previosly, damn my vulnurabilities as non-native user D: |
| 20:38.14 | duckies | rushes away leaving only dust trail behind |
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| 20:40.16 | Kain_ | hello here |
| 20:42.38 | DeadZergling | guess golbez needed him |
| 20:43.03 | DeadZergling | i just use negative regions inside the region, duckies |
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| 20:43.18 | DeadZergling | easy way to only do edges |
| 20:56.14 | Bounty | negative regions? |
| 20:57.18 | DeadZergling | yea, create a circle region radius N, make a negative circle region N-1 and add to that region |
| 20:57.23 | DeadZergling | got yourself a donut spawning region :) |
| 21:12.40 | A1win | I don't think "random point in region" works for combined regions, or at least for negatively combined regions. Been a long time since I tried that, though. |
| 21:14.35 | duckies | kinda works excellently in both cases >> |
| 21:14.37 | duckies | >_> |
| 21:15.12 | duckies | yea DZ, I'm using same thing for spawns :D |
| 21:15.34 | duckies | a1 come back and do maps! |
| 21:15.55 | A1win | why :| |
| 21:16.02 | A1win | I rather make real games. |
| 21:17.08 | duckies | game is something that subjects us to rules and restriction so that we can have fun, mediums don't matter! :< |
| 21:17.10 | ArcanePariah | What defines a real game? |
| 21:17.46 | Bounty | "a form of play or sport, especially a competitive one played according to rules and decided by skill, strength, or luck." |
| 21:18.04 | A1win | It was a provocative comment, haha. |
| 21:18.30 | A1win | Without the intention to provoke. Sarcasm I guess. |
| 21:18.33 | DeadZergling | a1win, it does work, it has since 2 years ago |
| 21:18.40 | A1win | oh |
| 21:18.53 | A1win | I probably tried it before that, then. |
| 21:18.53 | DeadZergling | was a really easy test, make a donut, spawn 500 units |
| 21:19.04 | DeadZergling | verify they don't spawn in the middle at all, win |
| 21:19.14 | Bounty | I had no idea you could create a donut shaped region by setting a region to a negative value... |
| 21:19.26 | Bounty | the fuck |
| 21:19.38 | DeadZergling | is why it is cool to hang out in here |
| 21:19.43 | DeadZergling | learn new shit just by being here, lol |
| 21:19.51 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:20.01 | A1win | It's like a hive mind. |
| 21:20.06 | duckies | also, thanks to ahlis tip that you can easily merge region by selecting them and pressing Ins - life now is nothing but joy~ |
| 21:20.08 | Bounty | That is pretty useful, definitely going to store that one in the ol noggin. |
| 21:20.25 | Bounty | best hotkey ever duckies |
| 21:20.29 | duckies | ^^ |
| 21:20.41 | A1win | My tip is to use Unity. It makes so many things super easy. |
| 21:20.47 | A1win | In comparison to SC2 editor. |
| 21:22.03 | DeadZergling | by the way duckies, this also works for dynamically created regions |
| 21:22.13 | A1win | The only advantages of the SC2 editor are inherent networking and the SC2 assets. |
| 21:22.13 | duckies | yup |
| 21:22.24 | DeadZergling | is how my Wizard teleports at least 3 distance away no matter what |
| 21:22.34 | Bounty | err, and its simplicity for non coders A1win. |
| 21:22.37 | Bounty | Thats kind of a big one |
| 21:23.03 | duckies | I seeded map with a bunch of almost equally spread cocoons by adding negative circles after each random spawn too :D |
| 21:23.09 | DeadZergling | yea, I can just feel the simplicity every time I do data |
| 21:23.18 | A1win | Haha. |
| 21:23.37 | Bounty | Go use Unity and see how much simpler it is for you DeadZergling =P |
| 21:23.49 | Bounty | Assuming you have no coding experience. |
| 21:23.59 | DeadZergling | you know I won't until my RPG is done |
| 21:24.22 | Bounty | I think editor is just more simple to get into. |
| 21:24.39 | Bounty | Less demanding entry level to create something. |
| 21:25.04 | A1win | Of course. It's just so much more limited. |
| 21:25.20 | DeadZergling | tell that to the new guy who just wants to make a duplicate marine who has a diff name, and a little more damage |
| 21:25.28 | Bounty | Yep, and thats exactly why its easier to get into lol |
| 21:27.05 | DeadZergling | I think both are a nightmare to get into |
| 21:27.28 | DeadZergling | just this particular boogie man seems less scary since we already know what he can do |
| 21:27.30 | Bounty | Unity is way more intimidating (to me at least) |
| 21:27.36 | Bounty | for the time being at least. |
| 21:28.58 | A1win | Well, took me much less time to do cooler shit with Unity than with SC2 editor. |
| 21:29.21 | Bounty | Yeah but didn't you have coding experience prior? |
| 21:29.31 | A1win | Yeah :P |
| 21:29.36 | Bounty | >.< |
| 21:29.40 | ArcanePariah | Understandable. If I had to make a terrible analogy: Unity -> C, SC2 -> Java. |
| 21:29.42 | A1win | I've been programming since I was 13, haha. |
| 21:29.44 | DeadZergling | sure that is all unity A1win , or new project happiness? |
| 21:29.55 | DeadZergling | with new projects it always feels like a lot more shit is getting done, lol |
| 21:30.12 | ArcanePariah | If you need the power, Unity is better, but you have a higher baseline experience requirement, otherwise more likely to screw up and cause performance issues or crashes. |
| 21:30.29 | DeadZergling | watch your fucking mouth ArcanePariah |
| 21:30.34 | DeadZergling | don't you dare call SC2 Java |
| 21:30.42 | DeadZergling | at least call it C3 |
| 21:30.46 | DeadZergling | *C# |
| 21:30.57 | A1win | Unity uses C#. |
| 21:31.31 | A1win | So yeah it was a pretty terrible analogy :P |
| 21:31.33 | ArcanePariah | *Shrug* hence, terrible analogy, but the idea is, SC2 manages a lot more for you. Thus more restrictive, but it is relatively difficult to cause it to crash or have major performance hits. Give me a general thing like Unity, and crashing is easy :D |
| 21:32.03 | DeadZergling | I wouldn't know, breaking things is my gift |
| 21:32.22 | DeadZergling | doesn't matter what editor I use, the crashes, they will happen |
| 21:32.30 | ArcanePariah | The entire data editor makes a lot of things managed code, it is impossible to incorrectly assign stuff there, can't accidently place a model entry where a unit entry is expected. |
| 21:32.51 | ArcanePariah | Enforces strict type checking basically. |
| 21:33.01 | A1win | So does C#. |
| 21:33.13 | A1win | (If you want it to.) |
| 21:33.15 | ArcanePariah | As you type? |
| 21:33.19 | ArcanePariah | Or at compile time? |
| 21:33.34 | A1win | That depends on the editor. I use Visual Studio. |
| 21:33.42 | ArcanePariah | I can see it doing it at compile time, I would expect it to, but it will not stop you from typing a bad entry. |
| 21:33.48 | A1win | Unity comes with MonoDevelop which is pretty similar to VS, except worse. |
| 21:33.56 | ArcanePariah | SC2 precludes you from ever putting in bad data. |
| 21:34.17 | ArcanePariah | And even if you do, manually (via XML) it won't crash it. |
| 21:34.23 | DeadZergling | Anyways, as far as coding goes, I didn't really start coding coding until 5-7 years ago. Modding though, done that since I was 8 or 9 |
| 21:35.03 | A1win | I'm not really a "programmer" though, I mostly just program stuff when I need to implement my designs. |
| 21:35.18 | A1win | Never really programmed for anything else than my own needs. |
| 21:35.25 | SmerigeCDAers | A1win and I are basically bst riends. |
| 21:36.40 | DeadZergling | Yea, programming professionally great in some ways, but always coding to suit some one else's needs |
| 21:36.47 | DeadZergling | That would get annoying in a hurry |
| 21:37.59 | Bounty | Working for someone always is always a bad idea 99% of the time. |
| 21:38.03 | Bounty | someone else* |
| 21:38.38 | Bounty | Interesting typo...."always" instead of "else" |
| 21:39.06 | DeadZergling | yea don't worry Bounty , we won't tell your wife |
| 21:39.07 | A1win | I misspelled "good gameplay" as "goodplay" the other day. |
| 21:39.32 | A1win | Was in too much of a hurry to explain game design. |
| 21:40.16 | DeadZergling | that's what I pride my games on, goodplay |
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| 22:10.48 | Zolden | oh, you discuss C# without me |
| 22:14.03 | Zolden | A1win and it makes you the best kind of coder |
| 22:14.22 | Zolden | those ppl who selling their coding soul for cash lose something |
| 22:14.24 | Zolden | some creativity |
| 22:14.28 | A1win | hehe |
| 22:14.28 | Zolden | they become machines |
| 22:15.06 | A1win | just as you said that, the lyrics of the song I'm listening said "the machine comes alive, it's awake" (Machinae Supremacy - Hubnester Rising) |
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| 22:27.43 | DeadZergling | Zolden, if I were to somehow acquire max, what would I need to do to make a larva look like the hydra/zergling? |
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| 22:55.03 | Bounty | *sigh* yet another song that starts off amazing and gets ruined by that dubstep or w/e the hell it is |
| 22:55.08 | Bounty | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PMxaNVW_Es |
| 22:55.18 | Bounty | Amazing until 0:36 |
| 23:02.00 | DeadZergling | the dubstep starts a lot earlier than :36, lol |
| 23:02.25 | DeadZergling | the transition at :36 is just plain ass though |
| 23:04.06 | DeadZergling | a transition into now we will listen to a grown man groaning as he takes a big shit for 30 seconds would have been more welcome |
| 23:06.59 | DeadZergling | Yea Bounty, that is a level of bad that I need to delete off my youtube history |
| 23:07.04 | Bounty | I need to make a decision on what I'm going to make for the Kickstarter.... |
| 23:07.20 | Bounty | I liked the intro, was catchy |
| 23:07.30 | DeadZergling | Panicku Attacku? |
| 23:07.38 | Bounty | har har |
| 23:14.24 | DeadZergling | what makes you choose Kickstarter over say, Patreon, by the way? |
| 23:15.06 | Bounty | I don't think Patreon would work for Arcade games |
| 23:15.40 | DeadZergling | Obviously, just curious why |
| 23:16.20 | Bounty | I would prefer patreon if it worked though honestly |
| 23:16.27 | Bounty | steady income |
| 23:17.07 | Bounty | I could always do both lol |
| 23:18.07 | DeadZergling | Thing with patreon, how would you convince someone to regularly donate 1-5 $ and make it seem like their contribution is really doing something |
| 23:18.27 | Bounty | Would have to go towards updates/new games |
| 23:18.31 | Bounty | Would have to be both of those things |
| 23:19.45 | Bounty | I could always try Patreon first and if it fails, go to Kickstarter. |
| 23:20.04 | Bounty | I REALLY like patreon lol |
| 23:22.26 | Zolden | DeadZergling it would be easier to explain if you had max to do what I say |
| 23:22.50 | Zolden | cause it's not like "use the quasimicroexperefictial spell" |
| 23:23.12 | Zolden | it's 100x set "rimjob" parameter to 0.729 |
| 23:23.23 | DeadZergling | yea.... I might visit torrent later, tired of being so dependent for shit. Not able to at work though. |
| 23:23.55 | Zolden | you are not dependent, just use that normal larva |
| 23:24.05 | Zolden | and in a couple of days you get the lava one |
| 23:24.31 | Bounty | Would be cool if someone made a modeling program that was as easy to use as the spore editor lol |
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| 23:29.55 | Zolden | Bounty boob touching gloves will let use 3d models as a clay |
| 23:30.28 | Zolden | also, 3d modelling is already very easy |
| 23:30.41 | Zolden | as easy, so I don't like it, just a stupid routine |
| 23:31.27 | Zolden | i can listen to music, talk to something, think about something and automatically do modelling |
| 23:31.52 | Zolden | unlike the complete concentration that coding requires |
| 23:32.20 | Zolden | it's also easy to learn |
| 23:32.37 | Zolden | just requires time, because there's alot of details |
| 23:32.47 | Zolden | but nothing "not easy" |
| 23:36.30 | DeadZergling | oh, I was confused I guess Zolden, I thought not today and not tomorrow was a Dr. Seuss reference, that you were telling me to make my own damn larva, lol |
| 23:38.08 | Zolden | lol |
| 23:38.15 | Zolden | it was literal |
| 23:38.32 | Zolden | i'm not that much into american culture |