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| 01:03.06 | Ahli | Zolden, no, I didn't. |
| 01:05.05 | Zolden | :( |
| 02:07.59 | Bounty | So, are you done working on DeathTV DeadZergling? |
| 02:14.05 | DeadZergling | heavily, probably Bounty |
| 02:14.19 | DeadZergling | I might add a couple new weapons, I might adjust the boards to be more visible |
| 02:14.38 | DeadZergling | but not going to add anything too earth shattering, if at all |
| 02:15.05 | DeadZergling | is about mood, mostly |
| 02:19.23 | DeadZergling | it isn't like people are demanding more or anything like that anyways |
| 02:19.38 | Bounty | Maybe just make a new game? |
| 02:19.40 | Bounty | Death TV 2 |
| 02:19.53 | DeadZergling | what for, the first one has like no plays, lol |
| 02:20.03 | Bounty | Because its a sequel and a new game |
| 02:20.13 | Bounty | and you have no time limit, can polish the shit out of the thing |
| 02:20.30 | Bounty | or, just do that with Death TV and market it on forums |
| 02:20.40 | Bounty | and pester Blizzard to feature it |
| 02:20.43 | Bounty | =P |
| 02:32.30 | Bounty | Best RP ever http://www.twitch.tv/lirik/c/5284754 |
| 02:53.22 | DeadZergling | I'd be more inspired to work on it if people played it semi regularly, but they don't, at all |
| 03:05.20 | Bounty | I wonder if you could enable/disable and change the volume of voice chat in SC2 based on distance |
| 03:05.37 | Bounty | Yeah I know how you feel DeadZergling |
| 03:05.50 | Bounty | Blizzards loves Gnolls VS Trolls but it seems like its only them lol |
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| 08:03.52 | Bounty | You there DeadZergling? |
| 08:03.58 | Bounty | or ArcanePariah |
| 08:04.02 | DeadZergling | Here-ish |
| 08:04.29 | Bounty | Just have a quick quesiton. I was wondering if you ever had any experience with medicines in which you had to taper off from |
| 08:04.41 | Bounty | They told me to do that with this but they didn't tell me how lol |
| 08:05.15 | DeadZergling | taper off from, not sure given the context, but that might mean start with a certain dose, then gradually decrease it to nothing |
| 08:05.38 | Bounty | yeah |
| 08:05.47 | Bounty | So, they gave me 15 |
| 08:06.10 | Bounty | and I have about 4 days left before I am in the clear |
| 08:06.20 | Bounty | soo... not sure how this shit works |
| 08:06.27 | DeadZergling | so how long does 1 last for? |
| 08:07.13 | Bounty | err |
| 08:07.14 | DeadZergling | well I'm not sure, but if it was me, I'd just take one when I started to feel not right |
| 08:07.33 | Bounty | They last a good amount of time |
| 08:07.53 | Bounty | and they told me NOT to do that DeadZergling lol |
| 08:08.08 | Bounty | every 6-8 hours |
| 08:08.34 | DeadZergling | 15, has to last 4 days at least, taper off... |
| 08:08.42 | DeadZergling | Here's some pills, good luck dude! |
| 08:09.25 | DeadZergling | suppose you are safe doing 3 a day first 4 days, then 2 and 1 the next 2 days? |
| 08:09.26 | Bounty | lol |
| 08:09.43 | DeadZergling | but yea, probably want to call them for something a bit more exact |
| 08:09.59 | Bounty | I'm aiming for 2 a day, 3 if something happens |
| 08:10.15 | Bounty | yeah, just figured I would ask if anyone had experience with this |
| 08:10.46 | Bounty | although, I don't even think you can get hooked on a benzo within such a short period of time |
| 08:11.33 | DeadZergling | Bounty 3 months later, yea, so I'm taking like 8 benzo a day now |
| 08:11.51 | DeadZergling | but I'm totally not addicted or anything |
| 08:11.53 | Bounty | Kill me at that point |
| 08:12.21 | Bounty | Surprised they still prescribe benzos honestly |
| 08:12.35 | Bounty | There is nothing else that can work on the GABA receptors and not be addicting? |
| 08:15.25 | DeadZergling | dunno, I need to afk for a bit though, hopefully these work out for you |
| 08:16.46 | Bounty | They work, definitely. |
| 08:17.07 | Bounty | Best part I've noticed so far is that they don't make you goofy or high like Xanax or something. |
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| 09:20.52 | DeadZergling | and then there was duckies |
| 09:27.27 | duckies | and duckies were good and were seperated from dead zeglings |
| 09:27.59 | DeadZergling | but duckies couldn't type well, so they were resigned to manual labor camps |
| 09:28.15 | duckies | and they did quack |
| 09:28.58 | DeadZergling | so I met my goals this weekend editing wise |
| 09:29.24 | DeadZergling | got all the stuff Enexy had ready done, and got all the monsters for Area 4-1 and 4-2 finished |
| 09:30.17 | duckies | meeting goals is nice |
| 09:30.26 | duckies | pat yourself on the back, you deserve it :D |
| 09:30.31 | DeadZergling | yea, always better than blowing it |
| 09:32.07 | DeadZergling | how goes your duckly projects? |
| 09:32.53 | duckies | I did stuff, as a result I'm reaping a feeling of deep statisfaction and confidence in my ability :D |
| 09:33.43 | duckies | I still probably have a months work ahead of me |
| 09:34.05 | duckies | maybe two if I decide to distract myself with wc3 assets |
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| 10:35.00 | Bounty | mmm Walgreens burrito at 5:30am |
| 10:36.12 | DeadZergling | having a great night huh, lol |
| 10:36.46 | Bounty | I would say so, yes. |
| 10:37.39 | Bounty | Surprised you're still up DeadZergling. |
| 10:38.56 | DeadZergling | yea, I should go to bed, but not in the mood |
| 10:41.01 | Bounty | Ah |
| 10:42.19 | DeadZergling | shouldn't have a shot of whiskey either, but that will probably be happening too |
| 10:42.55 | Bounty | this late? lol |
| 10:43.13 | Bounty | (assuming its 5:45am for you as well) |
| 10:43.49 | DeadZergling | 2:45 am |
| 10:44.26 | Bounty | Ah, west coast. |
| 10:50.16 | DeadZergling | heh, this is gonna piss some people off, and I'm fine with that :) |
| 10:51.23 | DeadZergling | wasn't happy with how small the get to the boss area was for my mountain area, so made 4 death boxes, each with 4 teleport beacons |
| 10:51.27 | Bounty | ? |
| 10:51.44 | Bounty | lol |
| 10:51.49 | DeadZergling | 1 takes you to the next room, the other 3 warp you back to the start of the mountain area |
| 10:51.59 | DeadZergling | for 4 rooms |
| 10:58.21 | Bounty | Is it pure luck or is there some way tofigure out the correct one? |
| 11:01.49 | DeadZergling | will have a pattern, I might put clues in throughout the game for those who want to pay attention |
| 11:03.37 | Bounty | That would be very cool. |
| 11:04.34 | DeadZergling | I'm a little annoyed that I had so little space to work with though, considering I made 4 special monsters just to guard the boss |
| 11:04.39 | DeadZergling | but this might make it better |
| 11:05.22 | DeadZergling | I had thoughts like this earlier anyways, since it was supposed to be a more magical filled area anyways, know those magic nerds, they like riddles/puzzles |
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| 11:06.58 | Bounty | Eh, I hate puzzles |
| 11:07.20 | DeadZergling | yea, many do. But this area is so late in the game |
| 11:07.35 | DeadZergling | they will be too invested in the game to give up there, they will have to push forward |
| 11:09.40 | DeadZergling | I'm referring to the wizards/mages/geomancers frequenting the area anyways, those magic nerds |
| 11:09.53 | Bounty | Ah |
| 11:10.08 | Bounty | Well, that is an interesting development philosophy >.< |
| 11:13.30 | DeadZergling | If work isn't too busy tomorrow, I might look up some good sounds to use when they choose 'poorly' |
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| 14:14.58 | Goa_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=865AoXifk7E |
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| 19:35.02 | Ahli | http://youtu.be/FJCaE19Cehc?t=1m42s the story of bommes, I assume... |
| 19:36.37 | Goa_ | lol |
| 19:37.58 | Goa_ | who is the "new guy"? |
| 19:38.03 | Goa_ | hope he quits too:DDDD |
| 19:39.22 | Ahli | who was the other person that quit after a year? |
| 19:39.57 | duckies | hah, confirmed, sc2 modding makes ppl go poof! |
| 19:41.26 | duckies | god damnit, bommes is that guy who was making that mechwarrior mod too.. well so much for that t_t |
| 19:43.11 | duckies | but eh, just disappearing off the face of the earth is so relateable >_> |
| 19:43.28 | duckies | which is probably messed up |
| 19:43.48 | Ahli | well, bommes was only periodically working on that I believe. He made cool stuff, but he took like 2 years for that mechwarrior bit |
| 19:43.48 | duckies | sc2 mapping is evil I tell you! we must cleanse ourself with holy unity! |
| 19:48.24 | duckies | stuck in a loop of feature creep coupled with owns perfectionist standards, applying pressure and stress to self long after your work turns into a self inflicted malice. Unable to escape vicious cycle individual collapses and lets everything go. He had enough of creative strife for a lifetime, or so he thinks.. Is what Dr.Duck thinks happened D: |
| 19:48.47 | duckies | but it's my opinion that Dr. Duck knows nothing and should stfu :D |
| 19:49.25 | duckies | runs around in circles senslessly quacking |
| 19:50.03 | duckies | poor bommes tho, hope he didn't die and just lives happily ever after somewhere in hawai |
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| 19:59.42 | Goa_ | I heard that once a great map maker made the Bomberbot map, since then he really just wasting his time instead of learning of Unity and making great stuff:DDDD |
| 20:06.04 | duckies | Man, how dares he :< |
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| 20:08.32 | Merc | so, ptr is live eh? |
| 20:10.54 | duckies | yup |
| 20:11.47 | Merc | still cant see any data in the editor |
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| 20:13.59 | duckies | hm |
| 20:14.24 | duckies | I see WC3(Data mod) as a downloadable mod from b-net (when you login through editor) |
| 20:16.38 | Merc | ah |
| 20:18.15 | Merc | hmh, cant seee the ptr when logging in through editor |
| 20:18.19 | Merc | newbing hard |
| 20:19.06 | duckies | you need to open PTR Editor |
| 20:19.09 | duckies | through launcher |
| 20:19.20 | Merc | that's what I did |
| 20:19.35 | Merc | gonna close down and give it another go |
| 20:19.55 | duckies | oh |
| 20:19.57 | duckies | well |
| 20:20.11 | duckies | in ptr there is no special "PTR" region |
| 20:20.16 | duckies | it's only america |
| 20:20.22 | duckies | all other regions are offline |
| 20:20.30 | Merc | ahh |
| 20:21.03 | Merc | there we go |
| 20:21.04 | Merc | thanks |
| 20:21.36 | Bounty | Still trying to get people to move to Unity Goa_? lol |
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| 20:36.40 | pirate | will sc2 kill regions that are no longer referenced? |
| 20:37.34 | pirate | ex: I create a region from a circle offmap as a dummy region, then add other regions to it |
| 20:38.24 | pirate | but then to reset the region, I create new dummy region (since the old one now contains added regions) |
| 20:38.51 | pirate | will doing this slowly create endless regions that could impact performance? |
| 20:39.37 | duckies | I dunno, but I'd appreciate if you did such thing with 100 000 000 000 of sample regions and told me the result :> |
| 20:42.18 | DeadZergling | I'd assume from the scope the new region would just go away, like any other variable |
| 20:42.28 | DeadZergling | at least I'd certainly hope so, otherwise I am creating performance issues... |
| 20:44.02 | pirate | unfortunately you can't remove a region from a region |
| 20:44.40 | DeadZergling | yea, at least not that way |
| 20:44.49 | DeadZergling | not while in game like I wanted to as well, lol |
| 20:46.15 | DeadZergling | I guess the only real way to check would be to figure out what file is getting larger with lots of regions, pump it full of regions, then dump it to see if it returns to relatively the same size |
| 20:46.50 | DeadZergling | but I'll just happily assume scope takes care of it and my region variables are automatically deleted and live a happy ignorant life until then |
| 20:49.32 | pirate | kk so after some crude tests |
| 20:49.56 | pirate | it looks like I start to lose a few fps after something like 200k regions are created |
| 20:50.26 | pirate | however this event shouldnt occur more than 100 times during a game anyway |
| 20:50.46 | pirate | so if I'm not imagining things, we can chalk that up to acceptable loss |
| 21:03.52 | DeadZergling | Hrrmmm, isn't a delete region function is there? |
| 21:04.10 | Goa_ | Bounty yeah |
| 21:04.55 | Goa_ | I the voice in the back of the head of every map maker, to move them to unity for a glorious better future! |
| 21:10.51 | Merc | these warcraft assets are awesome |
| 21:12.44 | duckies | dreadlord is as awesome as I remember him :D |
| 21:12.51 | duckies | sleep now z_z |
| 21:14.55 | Ahli | duckies, thanks for the region tip... :D |
| 21:15.31 | duckies | :D |
| 21:16.13 | Ahli | was foolish enough to list all Blizzard maps in the editor.... freezes and nearly locks up my computer... keyboard input lagging hard |
| 21:16.40 | Merc | let's start a club Ahli |
| 21:17.00 | Ahli | does the editor now use 4 instead of max 2 cores? |
| 21:45.32 | DeadZergling | curious Ahli, what was the tip duckies had about regions? |
| 21:45.47 | Ahli | use 'mericas |
| 21:46.09 | Ahli | load war3data mod from bnet... njoy |
| 21:46.35 | DeadZergling | oh, that kind of tip |
| 21:46.54 | DeadZergling | I thought you meant like regions in the editor, since we were talking about that earlier, lol |
| 21:48.46 | Ahli | regarding regions, I hope the editor cleans them up automatically after a while |
| 21:49.18 | Ahli | I know that you should NOT create regions over and over again, e.g. if you use triggers to check in a line step by step |
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| 22:30.24 | Ahli | http://snag.gy/EmlKc.jpg jesus |
| 22:32.33 | Bounty | the hell happened? lol |
| 22:38.18 | Ahli | I opened a mod on battle.net that contains further dependencies |
| 22:39.54 | Ahli | "the filthy human did not click the yes or no button within 10ms... let's show him another popup window...." - sc2 editor |
| 22:42.35 | DeadZergling | that is pretty hilarious |
| 22:44.11 | Bounty | lol |
| 22:44.27 | Bounty | So, are any of you going to make something to show off the models on the PTR? |
| 22:44.47 | DeadZergling | PTR? |
| 22:45.06 | Bounty | Public Test Realm |
| 22:45.23 | Ahli | Pirate's Test Realm |
| 22:45.39 | DeadZergling | Pig Testicle Rubbing |
| 22:46.40 | DeadZergling | probably not in that case, was just curious if it was some stream event |
| 22:46.51 | DeadZergling | would like to actually be on one of those if possible, lol |
| 22:52.43 | Bounty | I can get you on SCmotherships show if you want |
| 22:52.48 | Bounty | when Season 2 hits |
| 22:56.32 | DeadZergling | that'd be cool, I can do some refining of Death TV for that, particularly the reader boards, maybe finally put a few new weapons in |
| 22:56.48 | DeadZergling | I've had plans for the weapons for awhile, I just haven't fully implemented them yet |
| 22:57.27 | Bounty | I sent him a message asking when Season 2 Starts |
| 22:57.42 | Bounty | and that I have someone who would want to be on the show |
| 22:57.56 | Bounty | and yeah, if he says yes and gives you a date in which you have time... polish the shit out of it |
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| 22:58.26 | DeadZergling | i'll probably make the arrows way bigger after what I saw on sinvicta's channel |
| 22:58.33 | DeadZergling | that wasn't cool at all, lol |
| 22:58.49 | Bounty | lol |
| 22:58.51 | Bounty | what arrows? |
| 22:58.57 | DeadZergling | next round arrows |
| 22:59.08 | Bounty | Never seen them |
| 22:59.09 | Bounty | haha |
| 22:59.20 | DeadZergling | they are the green ones they walk on |
| 22:59.39 | DeadZergling | they are decent for 1-2 players, but 3-4 yea, there be problems mon |
| 23:00.23 | DeadZergling | I'd probably want to add a little bit of environment too |
| 23:00.45 | DeadZergling | random advertisements on the walls, random broken vehicles in the way, that sort of thing |
| 23:03.21 | Bounty | Yeah I think the environment is your pain issue ATM imo |
| 23:03.28 | Bounty | could not be more bland |
| 23:03.55 | Bounty | I would say add an audience on the top floors but that would not help the lag issue lol |
| 23:11.37 | DeadZergling | yea, I originally wanted to do that, but it got decided against for that reason |
| 23:11.59 | DeadZergling | instead there are little cameras everywhere |
| 23:12.09 | DeadZergling | perhaps too little, as no one probably even notices them |
| 23:15.17 | DeadZergling | One thing I could do is get some cheering sounds in there, have some cheering cut scenes |
| 23:17.42 | Ahli | I nearly used userTypes in the data editor... after looking at them I decided to NOT use them (their XML representation is unusable to edit and you can't get an overciew of all of the data of a single instance in the UI) |
| 23:19.02 | Bounty | You could have an audience made out of doodads DeadZergling |
| 23:19.14 | Bounty | all playing the clap animation (civilian) |
| 23:19.30 | DeadZergling | doodads take significantly less memory, right? |
| 23:20.54 | Bounty | I think so |
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| 23:21.19 | Bounty | So just make doodads with the civilian models that just play the clap animation |
| 23:21.44 | Zolden | so, anyone's making w3 based maps? |
| 23:21.52 | Bounty | and make sure you have all the variations so it does not look like an audience of clones lol |
| 23:21.58 | Bounty | I am |
| 23:22.03 | Zolden | screens? |
| 23:22.08 | Bounty | None |
| 23:22.15 | Bounty | DLing PTR now |
| 23:23.19 | Zolden | i'd make a picture of a fantasy scene, like unicorn raping a cantaurus in a meadow of joy, but lazy to dl alot |
| 23:23.35 | Zolden | hope someone will upload models to mapster |
| 23:32.37 | DeadZergling | hey does anyone know if it is possible to make an actor attachment actively face the same way as the model it is attached to? |
| 23:33.39 | Bounty | use a rotation actor if it does not do it by default |
| 23:34.02 | DeadZergling | sure, but how do you make it update whenever the unit turns? |
| 23:34.55 | Repo | New map: Emergence Xeyed Campaign - http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/emergence-xeyed-campaign/ |
| 23:35.29 | Bounty | wait so the attachment is not rotating at all when the unit does? |
| 23:35.45 | Bounty | Make sure Hold Position and Hold Rotation are not checked |
| 23:36.15 | DeadZergling | it rotates, but it doesn't face properly |
| 23:36.40 | Zolden | DeadZergling you want to rotate the attached thing relatively to unit's position? |
| 23:36.56 | Zolden | so they share direction of looking? |
| 23:37.05 | DeadZergling | I want the attached thing to always face the same as the original actor |
| 23:37.27 | Bounty | Ok, if it rotates then all you need to do is make a rotation actor |
| 23:37.32 | DeadZergling | rotation I have down, but facing, not so much, at least not for force field wall |
| 23:37.34 | Bounty | and make it face that way |
| 23:37.55 | Zolden | do I understand it right, that now it's always facing the direction that is differs from unit's facing by a constant angle, no matter where the unit looks at? |
| 23:37.59 | DeadZergling | is there one that automatically makes it face whatever way the actor is though? |
| 23:38.00 | Bounty | explicit rotation should do the trick |
| 23:38.33 | Bounty | yeah it being attached is what does that, the problem is the attachment model is not facing the proper wayu |
| 23:38.46 | Bounty | so you just make it face the proper way and it will do the rest |
| 23:38.57 | Zolden | explicit rotation should help, indeed |
| 23:38.59 | DeadZergling | hrrrmmm, maybe |
| 23:39.12 | DeadZergling | I know I am using one of those too |
| 23:39.35 | DeadZergling | I adjusted it, and it looks okay if he is facing north or south |
| 23:39.42 | DeadZergling | but west/east, it looks retarded |
| 23:40.13 | Zolden | bring screens |
| 23:41.02 | DeadZergling | I'll make some when I get home, unable to at this moment |
| 23:41.09 | DeadZergling | just trying to see if there is anything silly I'm missing |
| 23:41.59 | DeadZergling | but hold rotation/position are not checked, I use SOPAttachCenter, SOPAdjustPosition, SOPExplicitRotation |
| 23:42.30 | Zolden | waht SOPAdjustPosition do? |
| 23:42.48 | DeadZergling | is just some x/y/z adjustments |
| 23:43.06 | Zolden | why not local offset? |
| 23:43.27 | DeadZergling | it is local offset, I'm just saying it differently |
| 23:43.33 | Zolden | ok |
| 23:43.49 | DeadZergling | Adjusting Position makes more sense to me than offset |
| 23:43.56 | Zolden | doesn't exlicit rotation have local/global falg? |
| 23:44.15 | DeadZergling | it might, that would be worth looking into |
| 23:44.47 | Zolden | i can only think about this kind of reason of why your attached thing is moving relatively to the unit when it rotates |
| 23:45.39 | Zolden | btw, I must notice one thing D3 MODELS LOOKS SO MOTHERFUCKING GOOD IN SC2!!!! |
| 23:45.45 | Zolden | I would never expected that |
| 23:45.53 | Zolden | wow models are just trash |
