| 01:23.15 | DeadZergling | not that I can think of Dustin, if you find someone who can answer that better though, tell them to solve my mouse pointer issue too, lol |
| 01:24.30 | Dustin|Work | I don't think there's a way, gotta all be done with trigs |
| 01:24.36 | Dustin|Work | what's your mouse pointer issue |
| 01:25.17 | DeadZergling | oh, I want it to get the mouse pointer position when I press a certain key only |
| 01:25.58 | DeadZergling | is an issue i've had a long time, and Blizz even tried to solve it for me at one point, lol |
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| 01:34.08 | Zolden | DeadZergling i fixed that shit, thanks to you |
| 01:34.44 | DeadZergling | good, that discussion led me to another question, which I haven't answered yet |
| 01:35.13 | DeadZergling | in a search arc 0 search effect with max 1 target, does the search stop at the nearest target always, or it is random |
| 01:35.46 | Zolden | not sure if arc 0 will find anything |
| 01:35.51 | Zolden | guess it should be > 0 |
| 01:36.03 | DeadZergling | oh it does, my railgun in Death Tv uses arc 0 |
| 01:36.09 | Zolden | you can define "target sort" |
| 01:36.14 | DeadZergling | works as intended |
| 01:36.22 | Zolden | there's distance based sorts, random, some other |
| 01:36.48 | DeadZergling | that's true, but easier still if by design it always goes for the first one |
| 01:37.03 | DeadZergling | anyways, what exciting stuff you working on now Zolden ? |
| 01:38.06 | Zolden | always goes to the first one -> limit, letting us pick target sorts method -> freedom |
| 01:38.19 | Zolden | u're capitalist murican, should know value of freedom |
| 01:38.36 | DeadZergling | not any more, thanks Obama |
| 01:38.37 | Zolden | i'm working on balancing the new crystal builder |
| 01:38.41 | Zolden | uploaded it today |
| 01:39.28 | DeadZergling | reminds me of the old days when ranged was incredibly imba |
| 01:52.14 | Dustin|Work | DeadZergling, Too bad the mouse position can only be tracked when clicked :( |
| 01:52.34 | DeadZergling | yea, next best thing is constantly tracking it regardless |
| 01:52.44 | DeadZergling | which works, but is less accurate than I'd like |
| 01:52.49 | Dustin|Work | Ya I always just track and store it for each player when it's moved |
| 01:53.24 | DeadZergling | I can make the system work fine, but I dislike having to play a certain way due to the game's shortcomings, lol |
| 01:56.37 | Dustin|Work | I wonder if HOTS has a change for that feature since it uses Smart Casting |
| 01:56.50 | Dustin|Work | Where it autocasts twoards your current mouse position |
| 01:58.24 | DeadZergling | be cool if it did, also be cool if I remembered to eat more regularly |
| 01:58.43 | DeadZergling | slammed 2 chocolate milks and a v8 juice in the whole 3-4 mins it took my food to microwave |
| 01:58.48 | DeadZergling | was pretty damn hungry, lol |
| 02:06.28 | ArcanePariah1 | As for the current discussion, yes, Storm does do something to auto track the cursor, because you have quick cast (activating an ability immediately casts it at your cursor location) |
| 02:06.37 | DeadZergling | ah well, back to my needlessly complex item code generating program, lol |
| 02:08.41 | DeadZergling | interesting, so mouse tracking is forever on now? lol |
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| 03:50.56 | Deathbringer | Hello, is there anyway to spawn any item in your bag using the ID of it? |
| 03:51.36 | ArcanePariah1 | ID of the item to spawn? |
| 03:51.37 | ArcanePariah1 | Sure |
| 03:51.48 | ArcanePariah1 | Create Inventory Item action |
| 03:52.15 | Deathbringer | Okay. |
| 03:52.16 | ArcanePariah1 | And for the unit parameter, use a convert string to game link to take a string ID |
| 03:52.22 | ArcanePariah1 | and make it into a unit game link. |
| 03:52.36 | Ahli | look what they did in heroes: http://hastebin.com/izucotedar.cs |
| 03:53.09 | ArcanePariah1 | lmfao, the gg is auto... just wow. |
| 03:53.24 | Dustin|Work | Oh wow |
| 03:53.34 | Dustin|Work | only shows GG chats lol |
| 03:53.34 | ArcanePariah1 | But a brillant solution, conditional all chat |
| 03:53.47 | ArcanePariah1 | Why the hell did no one think of this before? |
| 03:54.07 | Dustin|Work | I was wondering how they were gonna keep people from belittleing the other team after the game |
| 03:54.36 | ArcanePariah1 | So good, yet so damm simple... |
| 03:56.30 | Deathbringer | So first Convert String to Game Link? |
| 03:56.46 | Deathbringer | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:56.55 | Deathbringer | ArcanePariah1 ? |
| 03:57.19 | ArcanePariah1 | Yeah, that's it |
| 03:57.36 | Deathbringer | Okay so what now? |
| 03:58.10 | ArcanePariah1 | That's it, the string should be a parameter to the function. |
| 03:58.26 | ArcanePariah1 | So you call the function and pass in the ID of the item in question that you want to create. |
| 03:58.37 | ArcanePariah1 | Probalbly also pass int he unit to create it on. |
| 03:58.56 | Deathbringer | String is highlighted in red. |
| 03:59.42 | Deathbringer | http://peeeq.de/gui.php?id=3586 |
| 03:59.44 | ArcanePariah1 | Yes, you put the string you want there, the ID of the unit. |
| 04:00.07 | Deathbringer | You mean the item ID? |
| 04:00.09 | ArcanePariah1 | Ok, so since this is based on the chat message, you will want Word 2 of the Entered Chat String |
| 04:00.27 | ArcanePariah1 | I'm assuming the second word will the ID of the item |
| 04:00.33 | Deathbringer | Yes. |
| 04:00.48 | ArcanePariah1 | So yes, for the string, take Word of String |
| 04:01.05 | ArcanePariah1 | It will be second word, and the string will be Entered Chat String |
| 04:01.23 | Deathbringer | Okay. |
| 04:01.29 | Deathbringer | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:02.14 | Deathbringer | Is this it? |
| 04:02.54 | DeadZergling | convert string to gamelink, lol, gamelink is just a glorified string |
| 04:02.57 | ArcanePariah1 | Well, you will want word 2 |
| 04:03.08 | ArcanePariah1 | And DeadZergling, yes and no. |
| 04:03.36 | ArcanePariah1 | By being of type Game Link, it enforces the type restrictions, so you can't accidently go GameLink1+GameLink2, which would work for a string. |
| 04:03.42 | DeadZergling | wrappers, I hates em. Had to use custom script boxes to avoid that BS long ago |
| 04:04.12 | DeadZergling | I understand the purpose, just annoys me who wants to be lazy |
| 04:04.14 | ArcanePariah1 | They are indeed a double edge sword. However, history has demonstrated such protections are necessary |
| 04:05.00 | Deathbringer | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:05.08 | Deathbringer | So will this work? |
| 04:05.12 | ArcanePariah1 | That should work. |
| 04:06.53 | DeadZergling | anyways, nice of you to explain it for DB, just ranting after spending a few hours making an overly complex item to generate item data for me in the future |
| 04:07.11 | DeadZergling | *complex program |
| 04:07.14 | Deathbringer | May I ask |
| 04:07.17 | Deathbringer | What does this do? |
| 04:07.18 | Deathbringer | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:07.48 | Dustin|Work | Gets you a piece of the string |
| 04:07.59 | Dustin|Work | Starting at the 9th character to the end |
| 04:08.00 | ArcanePariah1 | THe same as what I described for you, in a much more narrow way |
| 04:08.20 | Deathbringer | Oh so restricted on what you can spawn? |
| 04:08.24 | ArcanePariah1 | No |
| 04:08.43 | ArcanePariah1 | It will do the same, but it will fail if given a multiword string |
| 04:08.45 | Dustin|Work | ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOP would print JKLMNOP |
| 04:09.04 | Deathbringer | Ah okay. |
| 04:09.08 | ArcanePariah1 | SInce if you passed in ABC ABC BCCC, it would attempt to convert that into a gamelink, which will never work. |
| 04:09.19 | ArcanePariah1 | Since data ID's can not have spaces in them |
| 04:09.32 | ArcanePariah1 | The way I described for you, will always work, it won't crash. |
| 04:09.35 | DeadZergling | guess Ill try to have a program generate xml for me tommorrow |
| 04:09.37 | ArcanePariah1 | Or fail entirely |
| 04:09.40 | DeadZergling | getting sick of that too, lol |
| 04:09.43 | Deathbringer | And another problem I have is. |
| 04:10.11 | Deathbringer | I have a little store created in my game, but for some reason whenever I spawn minerals from a trigger it says "You cannot used shared minerals." |
| 04:10.14 | Deathbringer | What's the problem? |
| 04:10.22 | DeadZergling | see you later, Dustin/Arcane |
| 04:10.42 | ArcanePariah1 | Take care DeadZergling |
| 04:11.40 | ArcanePariah1 | Deathbringer: Not sure, may be related to the auto usage of minerals of leaver allies. I have to afk a bit, need to do some work, but you can leave a more comprehensive description here and I will see if I can discern the issue. |
| 04:12.37 | Deathbringer | ArcanePariah1 Using Player - Modify player (Triggering player) Minerals: Add 1000 to give myself minerals. |
| 04:19.32 | Dustin|Work | I do that all the time |
| 04:19.43 | Dustin|Work | Should work |
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| 07:53.40 | Ahli | are the bnet forums down on na? |
| 07:55.50 | Ahli | oh no, it's only whith my account :X |
| 08:18.36 | Ahli | ArcanePariah1: my list is soo long :X http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/forum/topic/15700316110#1 |
| 08:41.14 | Goa_ | Ahli wasting your time on shit storm?:D |
| 08:42.11 | Ahli | why wasting? |
| 08:43.45 | Goa_ | you would be better to waste your time on Unity:D |
| 08:49.42 | duckies | real men play with clay. Go make something creative out of dirt goa! |
| 08:50.40 | Goa_ | thats what I am doing:D |
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| 17:00.25 | Repo | New announcement: 2005 Diablo 3 Tech Demo - http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/2005-diablo-3-tech-demo/ |
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| 18:01.30 | Ahli | uses Slap on Bounty, but misses |
| 18:01.55 | ArcanePariah | Mmhmm, tried slapping him with a Murky |
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| 20:45.59 | DeadZergling | Am I correct in saying yesterday was a rare day for here, someone with a legitimate how to question, not just an exacting technical thing or an argue with other people question? lol |
| 20:56.05 | ArcanePariah | Ahli: I love the people bitching about the incomplete patch notes. |
| 20:56.45 | ArcanePariah | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:12.03 | ArcanePariah | Sup Dustin_Hendricks, short time no see :D |
| 21:12.57 | Dustin_Hendricks | Hola :D |
| 21:13.16 | Dustin_Hendricks | IT takes forever to connect to IRC at work not sure why |
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| 21:13.41 | Dustin_Hendricks | Oh it looks like it cycles servers as some of them dont get past the company firewall |
| 21:13.43 | Dustin_Hendricks | lame |
| 21:16.44 | ArcanePariah | So random question for you, how often are patch notes complete for things around your place? |
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| 21:20.12 | Dustin|Work | Sadly there are no support facing patch notes on release |
| 21:20.24 | Dustin|Work | We just have to read vague release notes |
| 21:25.42 | ArcanePariah | Interesting. I ask because I've gotten flak in NOTD from having incomplete patch notes, and Ahli did data mining to find undocumented changes to the latest heroes patch and people are raging about Blizzard not having complete notes. |
| 21:26.16 | ArcanePariah | Some people posted personal annecdotes of having complete notes for builds, but from very different industries (one example cited banking middleware) |
| 21:26.20 | Dustin|Work | Ya I mean for games I could see that |
| 21:26.36 | Dustin|Work | There are those people who have OCD fetish for changes |
| 21:27.23 | ArcanePariah | And that was my though to. Also, banking was a terrible example imo, because they operate under far stricter requirements, regulations, and have to solve objective problems. Games don't have any of those luxaries. |
| 21:27.30 | ArcanePariah | thought* |
| 21:27.43 | Dustin|Work | Ya, I myself love well documented patch changes |
| 21:27.52 | Dustin|Work | But at the same time, my path notes for my stuff are horrible lol |
| 21:27.57 | Dustin|Work | patch* |
| 21:28.52 | ArcanePariah | Same, I could be putting far far more detail in NOTD 2, using the editor comment/description fields in data and what not but... that entirely assumes things are solid and won't change a ton. |
| 21:29.05 | ArcanePariah | Some things are like that but others are getting revamped all the time. |
| 21:29.15 | ArcanePariah | Not to mention, one man army coder :) |
| 21:29.52 | Dustin|Work | hehe yaa |
| 21:54.36 | DeadZergling | pretty simple for patch notes really, post what you think is really important, unless you'd rather users not know about it as they'll rage |
| 21:54.50 | DeadZergling | very easy to 'forget' to put notes in |
| 21:55.07 | TwoDie | fuck users |
| 21:57.58 | TwoDie | not a single emotion was given |
| 23:01.25 | Ahli | hmm, there is trigger code for data mining in heroes |
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| 23:28.37 | Zolden | A1win how's yourunity game going? |
| 23:28.44 | Zolden | or should i say games? |
| 23:28.57 | A1win | it's going fine |
| 23:29.27 | A1win | still mostly working on map generator, not going to settle for mediocre PCG :x |
| 23:45.27 | DeadZergling | PCG? |
| 23:48.03 | Ahli | player content generation... I have no idea |
| 23:50.41 | DeadZergling | hehe, i've settled for making an item info generator. Decided making them manually while at home was lame, so now a program does it for me |
| 23:52.13 | DeadZergling | wish I'd gone the random item generator route in hindsight, but that will have to wait for my next project |
| 23:53.13 | DeadZergling | out of curiosity Ahli, how in the hell does one go about the game knowing which items are which. All I can think is an excessively large array with many details |
| 23:54.04 | DeadZergling | that is, for a game with randomly generated items, with random stats, name based on stats, etc |
| 23:54.08 | Ahli | what are you talking about? |
| 23:54.41 | DeadZergling | well you know, could have obsidian armor, +19 % all resists for one, +21 % for another |
| 23:54.48 | DeadZergling | how does one go about keeping track of that? |
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| 23:55.01 | DeadZergling | I figured you would know this one extremely well with Diablo |
| 23:55.02 | Bounty | peow |
| 23:55.13 | Ahli | you would have a class for items. There you would have different slots IDs for modifications and a value. You process the ID and the value and receive the stats |
| 23:55.13 | DeadZergling | hi Bounty |
| 23:55.21 | Bounty | Hello DeadZergling. |
| 23:55.31 | Ahli | that's my approach in the diablo map |
| 23:55.45 | DeadZergling | so that user data thing? |
| 23:57.09 | Ahli | I'm using custom values in the items and when I update I process everything to get the current stats of everything... but I would advise you to do what D2 did and process changes instead of everything. |
| 23:58.00 | DeadZergling | custom values, can you be more specific? (as specific as my rustiness allows...) |
| 23:59.32 | Ahli | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4479839/diablo1%20custom%20values.txt custom values is my information storage on units |
| 23:59.52 | Bounty | lol |