IRC log for #sc2mapster on 20141207

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09:10.45Goa_Zolden so hard to set text right in this new Unity UI
09:17.33ZoldenGoa_ why?
09:20.49Zoldenthere are 2 simple rules to make it auto-right: 1. ancors' coordinates == sprite coordinates, so scaling places text sprites correctly, 2. using "best fit" checkbox makes font size follow scale changes
09:27.50Goa_btw yeah
09:28.23Goa_but best fit sadly doesnt make the text always center
09:28.52Goa_I need to bit off set the text compared to the button to look good
09:28.58Goa_brb
09:30.02Zoldensometimes you can manually calculate and change font size
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11:38.52ZoldenRommper were there glass turtles in wc1?
11:39.51Rommperon the super secret cow lvl where you are fighting against Sargeras on a ZOMBIEDRAGON
11:40.42ZoldenOh, good. You lucky then http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/53/870/turt1.gif
11:42.29Rommpercool
11:42.53Rommpernow do some wc1 stuff without crystal effect :P
11:44.56Zoldenwhere to get sprites from wc1?
11:49.35Rommperhttp://wowpedia.org/Barracks_%28WC1_Orc%29
11:50.01Rommperhttp://wowpedia.org/Spearman_%28Warcraft_I%29
11:52.12Rommperbtw orc lumber mill and farm could easily be done with mag'har buildings
11:52.56Rommperhttp://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080716190335/wowwiki/images/9/94/AnOrc_lumb.jpg
11:52.56Zoldenand where is the sprites?
11:54.15Rommperhttp://www.spriters-resource.com/pc_computer/warcraft/
11:54.36Rommperso that mag'har lumber mill could be used as a base
11:54.59Rommperimprove a bit , giving it better texture match with the stuffs finished by TwoDie
11:55.09Rommperand animate
11:56.44Zoldencrap, too low poly
11:57.15Zoldendude, i don't plan to make models for you, just was curious about the sprites to see if I can use them in unity projects
11:59.25Rommperagain this unity...
12:00.41Zoldenunity is real shit, sc2 is a hole of the human butt
12:04.02Rommperkay
12:05.18Rommperanyway using sprites from other games isn't against copyright?
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12:08.25Zoldenanswer is obvious, not as obvious as this one: if I make sprites from sc2 models, will those sprites be copyrighted
12:09.01Rommperyes
12:22.32Vindicatorso when you buy RPG Maker you get a commercial license that alows you to even SELL games you make with RPG maker that use the included sprites for NPCs and attack animations in battle etc.
12:23.17Vindicatori made a dialog based 2d animation system for the game i did for the contest and found out that even with that commercial license, i still wasn't allowed to use those sprites outside of rpgmaker created things
12:23.53Vindicator(i was planning on using spell animations sprites from RPG maker)
12:26.44Vindicatoranother story i heard about was a chinese company that took all the art/sound assets from torchlight 1 and somewhat modified the assets to be lower poly, etc, to work on mobile and they got screwed over and removed from the app stores
12:27.34Zoldenlol
12:27.42Vindicatorbasically, there's only one kind of thing you can legally use from other games, and that's game designs
12:28.38Zoldengoogle play contains alot of not kicked games that use assets from other games
12:29.23Vindicatorthat was decided in a tetris look-alike case in New Jersey, and while another court could potentially rule otherwise, when cases are brought to court (in America at least), what tends to happen is cases refer to previous rulings in similar cases to determine the outcome
12:30.27Vindicatorya, the thing with mobile games is they probably need to be reported first, and some ppl get lucky.  the china game using the torchlight assets was found by the torchlight creators, so they pressed charges
12:30.39Zoldenbtw, I once submitted a game named "tetros", and google play didn't approve it, had to change the name
12:30.53Vindicatorinteresting
12:32.17Zoldenthere's special rule, that doesn't let people pretend to be similar to other games, and the grade of similarity isn't defiend strictly
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13:02.06ZoldenTwoDie would you like to inspect these marvellous pieces of glass based modelling http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/53/858/prism2.gif http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/53/870/turt1.gif
13:06.13TwoDiefirst 5 angle shape thing is fucked up
13:06.22TwoDieturtle needs tweaking
13:06.37TwoDieshadow darker than model
13:08.12Zoldenwhy is shape fucked?
13:08.38Zoldenisn't rainbowish refraction cool?
13:11.18TwoDiehas too much color switching
13:17.30Goa_Zolden and his glass fetish:)
13:17.56Zoldenthis looks like i made it http://i.imgur.com/rpPShuw.jpg
13:23.49Goa_:)
13:28.04TwoDielol
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13:47.34Goa_Zolden shouldnt I be able to directly change for example a public float value in my script with a UI slider, just like I can change any unity component with it. (like changing rigidbody gravity for example)
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14:04.07ZoldenGoa__ dunno about directly, maybe some script should put slider's value to that float value in update
14:04.29Zoldenjust don't use GetComponent(), have a reference
14:05.00Zoldenbut you better ask in unity 3d chat, maybe there's something like OnChange event
14:05.39ZoldenTwoDie waht a design! http://i.snag.gy/J9HjF.jpg
14:06.09TwoDiebad one
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14:54.36Goa__yay
14:54.41Goa__good job my ISP.
15:15.40ZoldenTwoDie how about this? http://i.snag.gy/QGlWf.jpg
15:16.17TwoDienot better
15:20.32Zoldenu hitler
15:22.27TwoDiemerc here?
15:25.17TwoDieohh, placement and placeholder actors have to be edited
15:25.23TwoDiek thanks
15:31.53Zoldennp
15:45.45A1winZolden, if you blend between animations in unity, can you somehow sync the frames of those two animations so that they match each other?
15:45.51A1winor durations
15:46.09A1winlike if you blend from 75% of animation A to B, B starts at 75% too
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15:47.53SwordmanHi. Is it possible to create path blockers which can be passed by some unit-types?
15:51.33ZoldenA1win in the transition you can move the anims relatively to each other, change the steepness of bend... try it
15:52.36A1winSwordman, there's only ground, air, and jump (cliff) path types
15:52.54A1winand I'm not sure if jump pathing can be manually added or anything
15:53.22A1winthere are multiple collision "layers", but only one pathing layer
15:55.10A1winyou can script your own pathfinding system, though, but it won't be very efficient
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16:00.48Zoldenhttp://www.princeton.edu/~aatishb/processing/tree_noleaves/
16:28.55TwoDiehttp://i.imgur.com/o7NpWVq.gif
16:30.27Zoldenthis is how a catapult was invented
16:31.00TwoDiein 2000?
16:33.21Zoldensame thing happened in babylonian port 6k y ago
16:33.30Zoldenit was a cosplay on your vid
16:34.17TwoDieohh
16:34.24TwoDiequite a bad one
16:34.38TwoDie0/10 no anchient robes
16:36.56Mercwhats up TwoDie ?
16:37.53TwoDienothing anymore
16:38.20TwoDiethought that placement = placeholder model actor thing
16:38.27Mercwhat about it?
16:38.39TwoDiefixing opacity things
16:38.52Mercopacity was wrong for you too?
16:39.00Zoldenpoopacity
16:39.27TwoDiegraphics settings some of them where set to medium, but Models settings still was set to Low
16:39.43TwoDiehitleracity
16:41.34MercI dont understand
16:42.19TwoDieyeah i would not understand what i mean myself if i where u
16:55.24Zoldenpoopic pooppings poop of poop poo poop to poopium, poop poopels pooppings poop poop poo to poop
16:55.29Zoldennow understand?
16:55.55TwoDieipoop
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16:56.23Zoldenhigh ArcanePoopiah
17:00.08TwoDienananananana
17:00.09TwoDieBATMAN
17:00.12TwoDiePEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEe
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17:35.28Zoldenhttp://varlamov.me/2014/jap_metro/bonnes-manieres-metro-japon-4-550x788.jpg
17:41.36Goa_Zolden seen today at local exchange buying Ruble costs twice as much as selling it. :)
18:02.08ZoldenGoa_ so if I come with rubbles to your country, I'll be reach?
18:04.26Zolden"gimme best sluts and cocain and lobsters! paying rubles!"
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19:40.36Goa_no
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20:19.29ZoldenTwoDie what do you want for christmas?
20:19.53Zoldenor as a former soviet state you celebrate more new year?
20:19.57TwoDiefake gf
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20:40.23ZoldenTwoDie how about this nigg? http://i.snag.gy/DynsM.jpg
20:43.01TwoDieugly ;<
20:45.56Zolden;/
20:52.16Zoldenok, fuck it, models done
20:52.22Zoldentime for some hardcore data
20:56.44Goa_how much poly is that? looks very oldschool:D
20:59.59TwoDielooks very zoldinish
21:00.17TwoDieas whole more than marine
21:00.42TwoDiebut if leaving only main body it would be less
21:06.11ZoldenGoa_ dunno, 400 ,aybe
21:09.25Zoldenso data rusty
21:09.41Zoldenit's been 9 months since i data'd
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21:17.06ZoldenTwoDie how is your new map doing?
21:23.36TwoDiewell mostly its played when im sitting in lobby for half an hour
21:24.01TwoDieand some how 1v1 or 2v2 getting to experience for 10-20 mins and i mostly stomp them
21:24.14TwoDiepopularity is very slowly irsing
21:24.30TwoDiehaving some major design, pacing issues
21:24.55TwoDiefeels like need to look more closely to limithing shit like in Knight and Merchants
21:25.00TwoDieor Anno 1404
21:25.38TwoDiewill need more weapon types less economy stuff
21:25.45TwoDieor management of rhouses
21:26.35TwoDieUNITY HYPE
21:27.25TwoDiestarted working on posting everywhere that this map exist too
21:29.08TwoDieso much things hadnt been done that is planned
21:29.25TwoDiedamn life is hard to live
21:34.56Mercweird, some buttons arent showing up in my peasant's command card
21:35.38TwoDiemaybe u havent set it properly
21:35.46TwoDiewhen choosing fields
21:35.55TwoDieu have to confirm everything with ur clicks
21:36.09TwoDieeven if its displayed when u set it up first time
21:36.22TwoDiethe field name u want it there to be
21:37.02Merchmh
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22:38.13ZoldenBibendus why u come here, u're not even a mapmaker anymore
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