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| 00:48.53 | Dustin|Work | blargggg |
| 00:49.00 | Dustin|Work | What's everyone up to |
| 02:06.01 | Bounty | Just another day Dustin |
| 02:06.09 | Dustin|Work | yup yup |
| 02:06.24 | Bounty | Still failing at my recordings lol |
| 02:06.27 | Bounty | getting better though |
| 02:06.56 | Dustin|Work | hehe |
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| 02:17.07 | Vailreth | hello folks |
| 02:17.19 | ArcanePariah | Good evening/day/night/morning |
| 02:17.57 | Vailreth | hello Anton |
| 02:19.28 | Vailreth | a bad joke i guess |
| 02:20.14 | ArcanePariah | Perhaps, but probably was just over my head. |
| 02:20.19 | ArcanePariah | So how are you doing? |
| 02:21.03 | Vailreth | im good, wondering how blizzard made their launch interceptors and run away ability |
| 02:21.28 | Vailreth | guess the need to patch the public editor some more before we can |
| 02:21.48 | ArcanePariah | After thinking about it, it comes down to one setting I believe. |
| 02:21.57 | ArcanePariah | I'm going to give it a test |
| 02:22.19 | Vailreth | cool if you get it working let me know. |
| 02:23.52 | ArcanePariah | Part of the behavior DOES depend on stuff in the newer editor. What I think works, also depends on the new attack ground, which lets you attack a point forcibly instead of a unit. |
| 02:24.18 | Vailreth | i see. |
| 02:24.59 | ArcanePariah | That can be done today with an effect target ability, but it is far clumsier then simply being able to use the attack ability and thus able to directly use the weapon (which launches the interceptors) |
| 02:27.03 | Vailreth | i am also facing a problem where magazine tethered units to dont automatically use autocast abilities on nearby targets |
| 02:27.11 | Vailreth | or atleast seeming not to |
| 02:30.18 | ArcanePariah | Ok, my suspicions were correct. All you have to do is set, in the ammo unit, the manage field to "Ignore". Once they are fired, it is a one way, one target suicide mission. Once the target is destroyed, they freeze and hang in space until killed. I think this is a product of the Launch Type being "Fire At Target" Going to test Release at Target |
| 02:31.42 | ArcanePariah | Ok never mind, release at target makes them appear over the target instantly lol, so release at source may be the correct behavior |
| 02:32.34 | ArcanePariah | I think what needs to happen is to do a fire at target, and release magazine effect run on the ammo units when they are launched |
| 02:33.33 | Vailreth | ive tried that or something similar |
| 02:41.10 | Ahli | working workaround: copy the interceptor with create unit effect, then transfer behavior + order to move and do stuff there + suicide the original ammo unit |
| 02:42.49 | Vailreth | yes that is a possibility |
| 02:47.10 | Dustin|Work | lol I was reading reddit and I saw Ahli posting on the lotv alpha mod, then look back here and Ahli is talking about it here too haha |
| 02:47.22 | ArcanePariah | Busy man :D |
| 02:47.26 | Ahli | :) |
| 02:47.29 | ArcanePariah | Sup Dustin|Work, slacking as normal? |
| 02:47.50 | Ahli | there have been a lot of hours between the reddit thread and this |
| 02:47.51 | ArcanePariah | (Rhetorical question, as you've already confessed :D) |
| 02:47.56 | Dustin|Work | Hehe, Not my fault I resolve all my cases right away and just have to wait for the phone to ring ;) |
| 02:48.16 | ArcanePariah | Good man, IT at its finest, lazy sobs since forever :D |
| 02:48.30 | Dustin|Work | Yissssss! |
| 02:48.49 | Ahli | I was tired 5 hours ago... watched series and a movie and now I'm awake :< |
| 02:49.17 | ArcanePariah | Same here, get to school, crank on the work, get all homework done so... Reddit/Slashdot/Ars/google news/mapster/Skype, yee haw! :P |
| 02:49.28 | ArcanePariah | Slacker techs, unite! |
| 02:49.44 | Dustin|Work | I'll write a program tomorrow to unite us in less time |
| 02:49.48 | Dustin|Work | hehe |
| 02:50.02 | ArcanePariah | Of course, reduce everything to a couple perl scripts, amirite? |
| 02:51.33 | Vailreth | for some reason i am having flashbacks of the movie Hackers whits Its all about the pentiums plays inb my mind |
| 02:56.18 | Dustin|Work | perl perl perl |
| 02:58.35 | ArcanePariah | Ok, so studying the broodlord, it is very strange. The brood lord itself has no actual attack, the brrodlings do with their weapon. Their weapon first releases them from the brood lord, then launches themself at the target. |
| 02:59.47 | ArcanePariah | Since it is a launch missile effect, it kills them on impact, but as part of the impact set, it creates a broodling (non escort variety). |
| 03:01.28 | Vailreth | yes i was trying to mimic that with an ability but only succeded in suiciding the carrier |
| 03:01.37 | ArcanePariah | :D |
| 03:05.04 | ArcanePariah | Ok, turns out I was mistaken, they ARE released, but they for some reasons are not selectable when using trying to group select them |
| 03:05.25 | ArcanePariah | Also, by default, interceptros are not selectable or commandable nor respond to being fired at. |
| 03:05.45 | ArcanePariah | So you need to change all of that, and set them to Ignore in the manage part of the arm magazine |
| 03:08.04 | ArcanePariah | Also their default acquire is none, so when idle, they just do nothing. |
| 03:08.33 | ArcanePariah | And they are untargetable, wonder if that also has anything to do with it |
| 03:08.45 | Vailreth | hm |
| 03:09.00 | ArcanePariah | It appears you need to apply a buff to them when they are released to fix them into normal combat units. |
| 03:09.44 | ArcanePariah | Now here is something I don't know how they did. They said interceptors fight on even if the carrier dies? |
| 03:10.02 | ArcanePariah | Because even with release magazine, they are still tied to the carrier for life, if the carrier dies, they die. |
| 03:10.19 | Vailreth | yes. from what i understand they are removed from the magazine. |
| 03:11.18 | Ahli | opens his carrier micro mod where that has been implemented |
| 03:12.18 | ArcanePariah | My only guess is using an effect target and use calldown |
| 03:12.39 | ArcanePariah | That should release the units from the magazine itself, but I may be totally mistaken |
| 03:13.08 | Vailreth | ah.. |
| 03:13.32 | ArcanePariah | My only other guess is they run a suicide remove on the launch, which just makes the unit disappear, and then run a create unit effect, and copy the order over |
| 03:14.15 | Ahli | release interceptors when the carrier dies and add a timed life behavior to the interceptors |
| 03:14.23 | Ahli | interceptors survive |
| 03:14.55 | ArcanePariah | Interesting, how is that accomplished? I had my interceptors released on launch, they still died. |
| 03:15.32 | Bounty | http://www.twitch.tv/scmothership |
| 03:15.46 | Bounty | SCmothership's new arcade show "Arcade Play" |
| 03:16.27 | Dustin|Work | never heard of this person |
| 03:17.01 | Ahli | carrier -> buff behavior -> fatal damage response -> iterate magazine -> release interceptor; arm magazine ability (aka hangar) -> release effect -> apply timed life buff |
| 03:17.31 | Ahli | weird that I got that working and the carrier ability not :< |
| 03:17.38 | Dustin|Work | Wtf bounty, are they playing some top down light cycles? |
| 03:17.48 | Bounty | lol yeah |
| 03:17.50 | Bounty | Fun or Not |
| 03:17.51 | Ahli | worked on first try :< gg |
| 03:17.55 | Dustin|Work | ahhh |
| 03:19.23 | Ahli | dustin, ahhh :D |
| 03:20.14 | Ahli | doesn't that map lag like hell? I suppose all of the blocs are units |
| 03:23.00 | Dustin|Work | which one? |
| 03:23.13 | Ahli | the map that they are playing in the stream |
| 03:23.27 | Ahli | and dustin, your map was mentioned after bounty suggested it in stream |
| 03:23.35 | Ahli | *in chat |
| 03:23.59 | Dustin|Work | Oh it was? Other than me? lol |
| 03:35.50 | Bounty | Dustin suggested his map, not me lol |
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| 07:27.19 | duckies | hey goa_ |
| 07:28.09 | Goa_ | how come you are here?:D |
| 07:28.17 | duckies | I dunno |
| 07:28.28 | duckies | I got curious about how everyone is |
| 07:28.43 | duckies | so, what's up with you, making unity stuffs? |
| 07:29.01 | Goa_ | yeah |
| 07:29.19 | duckies | how did flappy egg in 3d go? |
| 07:29.42 | Goa_ | nobody downloads it anymore |
| 07:29.46 | Goa_ | I need to update it |
| 07:29.54 | Goa_ | will do in the next weeks |
| 07:30.26 | duckies | what are you doing now? |
| 07:30.44 | Goa_ | other games |
| 07:30.57 | Goa_ | I might finish wisp escape next:D |
| 07:31.14 | duckies | was just about to ask about it, that sounds lovely |
| 07:31.22 | Goa_ | there is 1 stupid unity bug that I am having trouble working around though |
| 07:31.29 | duckies | D= |
| 07:32.14 | duckies | got any screens of things you're working on? |
| 07:32.22 | Goa_ | nope |
| 07:32.31 | duckies | aaaw |
| 07:32.32 | Goa_ | I have 3 other games in the making:D |
| 07:32.37 | duckies | oh god |
| 07:32.42 | duckies | this is so like you :D |
| 07:32.46 | Goa_ | but none of it has any real art yet:D |
| 07:32.49 | Goa_ | so no screens |
| 07:33.22 | duckies | so that's what.. sc is so cool in art regard :3 |
| 07:33.41 | duckies | I've seen zolden back in b-net, playing mines and magic :o |
| 07:34.03 | duckies | TwoDie, what are you up to nowadays?! |
| 07:34.21 | duckies | twodie twodie twodie ! |
| 07:34.42 | duckies | you're not making any more platformers are you goa_ ? |
| 07:35.18 | Goa_ | my 3 other games are very different non platformers |
| 07:35.20 | Goa_ | so yeah:D |
| 07:35.47 | duckies | something that requires brains/thinking I suppose? |
| 07:36.02 | Goa_ | kinda |
| 07:36.31 | duckies | so what is it? defenses, strategies, civs? |
| 07:36.51 | duckies | flappy mazers? |
| 07:37.04 | Goa_ | no spoilers:D |
| 07:40.40 | duckies | okaaay then :| .. any sliding projects? |
| 07:40.50 | Goa_ | one:D |
| 07:40.56 | duckies | excellent! |
| 07:40.57 | Goa_ | but not really sliding |
| 07:41.35 | duckies | but you slide or dodge thin... waiit, infinirunner? |
| 07:42.11 | Goa_ | infinite runner but there are no similar games |
| 07:42.31 | Goa_ | and I yet to make it really enjoyable only the engine of it done... |
| 07:44.45 | duckies | powerups, dynamic terrain changes, enemies & enemy interractions? |
| 07:45.04 | Goa_ | dynamic terrain:D |
| 07:47.09 | duckies | If terrain was an enemy trying to assault you with violent forms that would be nice, but there are so many things you can do with dynamic terrain that any guesswork is meh. But I dug far enough for my liking :3 |
| 07:48.15 | duckies | the other two of the three things I mentioned also make things enjoyable, so if you're ever stuck with not enjoying your action you can try them out |
| 07:49.07 | Goa_ | yeah |
| 07:49.16 | duckies | but that's just an action-platfformer addict in me trying to persuade you >.>' |
| 07:49.35 | Goa_ | :D |
| 07:50.01 | duckies | considering those two can be nothing like each other that can be a really bad advice .. why am I even talking v_v |
| 07:50.16 | Goa_ | also my wisp escape currently too hard on mobile. I need to make controls bit better and remove that you start over from start if you die 10 times |
| 07:50.55 | duckies | or bring it to PC MASTER PLATFORM so that I can try it out too!!!!~~ |
| 07:52.26 | duckies | ah, btw, mandatory statistics question, how many downloads on eggs? |
| 07:52.33 | duckies | *egg that flapps |
| 07:53.28 | duckies | hm, I think I used word mandatory incorrectly.. damnit! :< |
| 07:55.02 | Goa_ | duckies http://pbrd.co/1p4Tw2t |
| 07:56.51 | Goa_ | I never advertised it to anyone |
| 07:57.04 | duckies | ooh, over 500 downloads from nothing |
| 07:57.15 | duckies | how many reviews tho, 0? |
| 07:58.34 | Goa_ | one https://itunes.apple.com/app/id926181589 |
| 08:00.22 | TwoDie | hello duckies . modelling and back to sc2 map making.. some new project. buildings shit like a city, more than 4 resources |
| 08:08.06 | duckies | goa_ , the only review is a self-advertize ;_; ... or is that a common trend on appstore? |
| 08:08.26 | Goa_ | dont know |
| 08:09.13 | duckies | TwoDie that's awesome, futuristic or medival setting? |
| 08:09.41 | TwoDie | not sure yet |
| 08:10.24 | TwoDie | will try today or tomorrow to finish working concept and publish it. set up so forums, maybe players will guide me in this one |
| 08:10.32 | TwoDie | and many other shiet |
| 08:10.51 | Goa_ | btw I need good platformer games on mobile to copy form, so if you guys know any:D |
| 08:15.19 | duckies | do not have a smarthone. all I know of platforms is either jumpin'n'shootin, or roamin'n'powerupin (castlevania style) =| |
| 08:16.56 | duckies | tho I think a lot of it is timing based since all you have is one gigant button that is also your screen >.> |
| 08:17.10 | duckies | but you know all that anyway |
| 08:17.19 | duckies | you fancy modern device user =D |
| 08:18.40 | Goa_ | Now that I have smart phone, I see it even more useless than before:D |
| 08:22.08 | duckies | Yeah, silly little things. Who needs smartphones and mp3s when you have the voice in your head keeping you amused, right? blissfull company of self! |
| 08:25.11 | Goa_ | there is only 2 things I use it for now |
| 08:25.24 | Goa_ | taking notes when not at home and listening music |
| 08:25.58 | Goa_ | And after asking some people about it, they couldnt really suggest me any other use for it:D |
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| 08:32.50 | duckies | I imagine if form is proper it could make for a fine coaster for your drink :3 |
| 08:47.05 | TwoDie | well.. going back about that setting thing.. warcraftish setting.. |
| 09:46.21 | duckies | twodie, so are there magical creatures? |
| 09:46.59 | TwoDie | as i said before still not sure about them |
| 09:47.13 | TwoDie | as i missread what u asking |
| 09:47.22 | TwoDie | fantasy or medieval :d |
| 09:47.26 | duckies | I think, what would be awesome, is to be in a magical world, fight magical creatures but have no magical prowess of your own, so just pure tech - steel and gunpowder |
| 09:48.07 | TwoDie | well thats some action game |
| 09:48.15 | TwoDie | not a strategy with 50 resources stuff |
| 09:48.33 | TwoDie | or those other creatures like in Empire Builder. Kerigan stuff thing |
| 09:48.38 | duckies | slaying fairies and ogress with swordsmen and musketeers, employing tactics like flanks and traps to take out powerful magicians |
| 09:49.05 | duckies | nono I mean in an strategy type game, that would just be the setting |
| 09:49.22 | duckies | tho it seems that you're re-fancying your trade simulator twodie :D |
| 09:49.49 | TwoDie | well yeah. Empire builder way. u get fighting vs AI controled other faction |
| 09:52.40 | duckies | okay, so a management game |
| 09:53.40 | TwoDie | will try to balance fight with management |
| 09:54.06 | TwoDie | something like Knights and Merchants |
| 09:54.34 | duckies | that melee mod where X players fight and X players sell them units? |
| 09:54.49 | TwoDie | no |
| 09:55.14 | TwoDie | not my Age of Knights map but real thing called Knights and Merchants |
| 09:55.21 | duckies | ooh |
| 09:55.33 | duckies | I wish someone would remake Majesty already ._. |
| 09:57.11 | TwoDie | http://snag.gy/MBJDh.jpg |
| 10:01.35 | duckies | looks like it can be cool. Different houses remind me of AOE, Ceasar and such |
| 10:02.36 | TwoDie | tents was kinda based of ceasar |
| 10:06.36 | duckies | yeah, some nostalgia hits right there.. |
| 10:10.34 | TwoDie | shotsfired |
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| 10:59.54 | IskatuMesk | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/artist-tavern/67392-showcase-iskatu-mesk-junk/#p14 |
| 11:02.35 | TwoDie | such a junk :/ much penis |
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| 11:05.46 | TwoDie | junkyard came |
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| 11:17.04 | Zolden | swaps duckies' and TwoDie's penises |
| 11:22.26 | TwoDie | noo my huge penis :/ |
| 11:28.01 | Zolden | is it sarcasm? |
| 11:34.24 | TwoDie | u would want it to be so :/ |
| 11:34.27 | TwoDie | u so mean |
| 11:42.18 | Goa_ | about penises from last south park: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNEQorzR3gk |
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| 12:19.26 | Goa_ | FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK YEAH |
| 12:19.41 | Goa_ | fixed pain in ass bug in unity |
| 12:19.52 | Goa_ | duckies it wasnt actually unity's fault |
| 12:19.56 | Goa_ | it was my fault |
| 12:20.08 | duckies | well totally didn't see that one coming :3 |
| 12:20.13 | Goa_ | now I can finish developing my platformer game |
| 12:20.30 | Goa_ | duckies unity forums mislead me |
| 12:20.42 | Goa_ | where it was claimed that its kinda unity's fault |
| 12:20.54 | Goa_ | as the bug only shows up on mobile and not on pc.... |
| 12:21.11 | duckies | one should never lose faith in ones ability to screwup! |
| 12:21.16 | duckies | anyway goa_ ! |
| 12:21.29 | duckies | gimme some free content! =D |
| 12:21.40 | Goa_ | took me about 10 builds in mobile but figured it out:D |
| 12:22.07 | duckies | where are you gonna find art assets? |
| 12:22.19 | duckies | makes them yourself or purchase? |
| 12:25.11 | Goa_ | I make it or find free ones |
| 12:25.55 | duckies | mm.. artmaking |
| 12:26.41 | duckies | make your protagonist a half-naked old man with beard going all the way down to his feet, kinda like ice king from adventure time! |
| 12:27.05 | duckies | such funky design can't go wrong |
| 12:27.21 | duckies | and think of all the fabulous beard animation! |
| 12:30.08 | duckies | flappy beard runner! |
| 12:32.05 | duckies | It suck being ored ;| |
| 12:32.19 | duckies | and by ored I mean bored |
| 12:34.04 | Goa_ | learn unity:D |
| 12:34.14 | Goa_ | we need more ducks in unityy.D |
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| 12:47.50 | duckies | mmaybe mmaybe |
| 12:48.02 | duckies | the sooner sc2 dies the sooner I'll switch |
| 12:48.15 | duckies | so let's hope that sc2 drops dead soon eoungh! |
| 12:48.33 | duckies | hm, that didn't come off too nice :/ |
| 12:49.46 | Goa_ | isnt SS2 dead already? |
| 12:49.48 | Goa_ | SC* |
| 12:50.04 | Goa_ | or you will wait until it really becomes dead after the next expansion |
| 12:52.05 | IskatuMesk | game doesn't need to be popular to make a project in it... and sc2 needs to live to die |
| 12:52.20 | Goa_ | :) |
| 12:58.14 | duckies | heh. but yes. I'll wait for the time after final expansion when sc becomes even more ded gaem than it already is |
| 12:59.05 | duckies | oh god.. I just realized, I stuck with mapping for bw until the release of sc2.. if that is any indication then it might be a while.. |
| 13:03.43 | IskatuMesk | I stuck with modding for bw until 2009... and modding for that game was all but dead in 2001 |
| 13:03.54 | IskatuMesk | I was still making fairly big discoveries and advancements in 2009 though |
| 13:04.18 | IskatuMesk | by then though the only thing left was ASM and that was too advanced for me |
| 13:04.33 | IskatuMesk | with sc2 I imagine there will still be much untouched by 2020 |
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| 13:06.49 | IskatuMesk | and then I was modding age of wonders 2 in 2008-2010 and that game is all but entirely unknown |
| 13:07.24 | IskatuMesk | decent editor though, all things considered |
| 13:11.44 | IskatuMesk | ahli probably remembers all that like it was yesterday |
| 13:17.14 | duckies | heh, ahli was making D1 for sc1 and then went on to make it for sc2. Kinda funny, I was making bomberman for bw, didn't finish, made one for sc2 instead. |
| 13:17.39 | IskatuMesk | d1? was he in nottingham? |
| 13:17.44 | duckies | tho I'm such a shy lurker I never posted on staredit or anywhere back then |
| 13:17.47 | IskatuMesk | or is this a map |
| 13:17.51 | duckies | map |
| 13:17.53 | IskatuMesk | ah |
| 13:17.55 | duckies | diablo 1 |
| 13:18.09 | IskatuMesk | there was a d1 TC for bw back in the day |
| 13:18.15 | IskatuMesk | thought you meant that |
| 13:18.22 | IskatuMesk | I think only I possess it now |
| 13:18.22 | duckies | ooh, total conversions |
| 13:18.26 | Ahli | duckies is correct :D |
| 13:18.27 | IskatuMesk | yeah |
| 13:18.30 | IskatuMesk | that's what I did |
| 13:18.35 | IskatuMesk | tc's |
| 13:18.50 | duckies | bw is so lovely, tc's were awesome too |
| 13:18.55 | IskatuMesk | making things with vanilla content is not really my thing |
| 13:19.20 | IskatuMesk | I only made maps for a few months pre-BW |
| 13:19.33 | IskatuMesk | m ostly melee stuff |
| 13:20.24 | IskatuMesk | if ahli was a part of nottingham he'd be like a super long lost mega lurker |
| 13:21.01 | IskatuMesk | if I had known you had a d1 map you might have been able to use those grp files haha |
| 13:21.16 | duckies | damn, pre-bw... I didn't even have net back then v_v |
| 13:21.43 | IskatuMesk | seems like so long ago |
| 13:22.21 | Ahli | well, it was an attempt. inventory and items were woring, combat calculations, too. but my battlefield was buggy and I've noticed that I couldn't save the game without crashing anymore and then I stopped |
| 13:22.34 | Ahli | then sc2 appeared and I had nothing better to do |
| 13:23.11 | IskatuMesk | it would be trivial to port d1's sounds to sc2 if you wanted them |
| 13:23.20 | IskatuMesk | I just need to find the archives somewhere |
| 13:23.46 | duckies | I think he did just that |
| 13:23.50 | IskatuMesk | ah |
| 13:24.01 | IskatuMesk | did you give them a resampling treatment? |
| 13:24.20 | IskatuMesk | I had to run the mutalisk sounds through a filter to get them to sound any good alongside 44khz stuff |
| 13:25.10 | Ahli | no, I didn't |
| 13:26.28 | IskatuMesk | once I get enough of my sound revamp done on the vanilla sc2 stuff I might make a little video of it |
| 13:27.11 | IskatuMesk | I need to learn actor crap first though |
| 13:27.11 | duckies | that would be awesome |
| 13:27.34 | duckies | sc1 DT attack sound is just so good I keep on wanting to use it in sc2 |
| 13:27.58 | IskatuMesk | I have hundreds of super high quality swing sounds |
| 13:28.15 | IskatuMesk | none quite so fitting for dt as-is but that is where my latest experiments are coming in |
| 13:28.24 | IskatuMesk | problem is I also want voice sounds and such for them |
| 13:28.48 | IskatuMesk | and wasn't sure how to actually get all that working in sc2 |
| 13:28.58 | IskatuMesk | though someone recently sent me a functional example I need to learn the ins and outs of |
| 13:29.11 | IskatuMesk | some of my big units could have a few hundred sfx |
| 13:30.12 | IskatuMesk | using sc1 sounds as a source is a bit tricky because things like the dt only have the one sound, and I want to make use of randomness |
| 13:30.17 | IskatuMesk | so I need to make a lot of variants of them |
| 13:30.41 | IskatuMesk | this is easy for about half of them because they are just pulled from a commercial cd and I can use that source or something similar, some like the zealot attack sound are a lot harder |
| 13:31.21 | duckies | oh wow, zealot attack sounds, the brutality and rage in them |
| 13:31.35 | duckies | my ears wither when I remember the sc2 counterpart |
| 13:31.49 | IskatuMesk | oh, something I did today https://i.imgur.com/IdoQGJI.png |
| 13:31.52 | IskatuMesk | revamped Gna's carrier |
| 13:32.01 | IskatuMesk | color correction, proper animated glows, engine particles |
| 13:32.07 | IskatuMesk | player color glow like my other protoss changes |
| 13:32.28 | IskatuMesk | cleaned up the textures a bit (some of the glow on the original was bleeding over some edges) |
| 13:33.11 | duckies | aaw, that looks cool by itself. Tho it's best to see it next to other units.. |
| 13:33.45 | IskatuMesk | http://i.imgur.com/bOVyirn.png |
| 13:33.52 | IskatuMesk | old image, the immortal is not changed in this one |
| 13:35.19 | duckies | is it me or they look more bronze-ish/gold-is/stylish? or is it the lighting.. |
| 13:35.47 | duckies | ahli what are you up to nowadays? |
| 13:35.48 | IskatuMesk | player color and lighting |
| 13:36.15 | IskatuMesk | though, since all protoss have different color shades, one day I'll sync them up and make them more goldish to fit my rewritten lore |
| 13:36.43 | duckies | rewritten lore sounds nice |
| 13:36.59 | Ahli | playing heroes, doing university stuff, fixing things in starbow... |
| 13:37.00 | IskatuMesk | not simply rewritten but completely mangled, it's going to be amazing and very silly |
| 13:38.05 | IskatuMesk | league servers are so busted... hard to spectate |
| 13:38.36 | Ahli | my internet is broen, too :S |
| 13:38.42 | duckies | what happened to TempleSiege? Kinda curious, it looked like some sort of sens legacy for a while.. |
| 13:39.04 | IskatuMesk | they had me do VA for the sc2 version a while ago |
| 13:39.40 | Ahli | nobody continued developement in the sc2 version, only luzzotica made a handful of changes within a year or so |
| 13:39.46 | IskatuMesk | ah |
| 13:39.50 | IskatuMesk | too bad |
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| 13:44.24 | duckies | ded game ;| |
| 13:44.32 | duckies | *gaem |
| 13:45.25 | TwoDie | MORE BLOOM and EMMISSIVE STUFF! |
| 13:45.27 | duckies | Iskatu, is conclave alive or dead in your rewritten lore? |
| 13:45.38 | IskatuMesk | hmmm |
| 13:46.12 | TwoDie | what hmm |
| 13:46.13 | IskatuMesk | not sure about details yet, but protoss in this are descendants of a medieval human civilization pre-apocalypse sort of deal, and inherit portions of their technology and their religious texts |
| 13:46.14 | TwoDie | its a jk |
| 13:46.18 | TwoDie | it looks like shit :/ |
| 13:46.25 | IskatuMesk | however at the stage you start, most of them are dead |
| 13:46.38 | IskatuMesk | (luckily they are plants so just grow in the light for a while for more) |
| 13:46.43 | TwoDie | blury mess |
| 13:47.00 | duckies | oh, protoss are still plants, cool! |
| 13:47.06 | IskatuMesk | that default light makes it a mess yeah |
| 13:47.20 | TwoDie | no pms thank u |
| 13:47.44 | IskatuMesk | there is also protoss illuminati |
| 13:47.45 | duckies | I ws asking cause protoss with conclave were mighty, protoss post conclave are just running around hiding and being pushovers in general |
| 13:47.56 | duckies | but since it's a complete rewrite like that.. :o |
| 13:48.26 | duckies | (just want to some some psionic, gold-armored plants kick some ass) |
| 13:49.03 | IskatuMesk | yeah there is quite a bit of that, especially after they rediscover magic and alternate lightshaping |
| 13:49.40 | duckies | okay the, vision of power and traditions is all I want to see |
| 13:49.42 | IskatuMesk | tiers are higher in this, you can build things like planet busters that deal huge damage to the map |
| 13:50.18 | IskatuMesk | hopefully lotv has some good infantry assets because most of them suck atm and I don't have much to work with |
| 13:50.27 | duckies | ^^ |
| 13:50.39 | IskatuMesk | zealot attack animation is disgusting |
| 13:51.42 | IskatuMesk | protoss will be second most work to revamp asset-wise, will go through it in passes |
| 13:51.45 | IskatuMesk | zerg will be the most work |
| 13:52.00 | IskatuMesk | they basically need to be redone entirely texture-wise and sfx-wise, almost none of their sfx is any good |
| 13:52.24 | IskatuMesk | since I can't do textures I'll have to figure out some way to filter them to respectability |
| 13:52.59 | IskatuMesk | then I have about a half-dozen entirely new races to create for the first segment, and some subfactions |
| 13:56.23 | Rommper | oO |
| 13:56.27 | Rommper | wut? |
| 13:56.34 | IskatuMesk | sup |
| 13:58.04 | Rommper | i lost around the plant protoss |
| 13:58.13 | IskatuMesk | protoss are plants |
| 13:58.22 | Rommper | suuure |
| 13:59.50 | IskatuMesk | why do people keep asking me to make models when my thread specifically says I don't take requests |
| 14:00.15 | IskatuMesk | it's like the pms on youtube that ask for partnerships without even reading the channel description |
| 14:01.01 | Ahli | http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Protoss search sunlight |
| 14:05.35 | Ahli | man more than half of the time sh*t is not loading |
| 14:05.49 | IskatuMesk | I have to think of some utterly ridiculous origin scenario for the protoss |
| 14:06.08 | Rommper | it doesn't make them plant |
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| 15:19.02 | IskatuMesk | secret ahli |
| 15:20.45 | TwoDie | wow dota 2 got out of control with this new patch with the throwing all over the place those Arcana items that are worth 30$ |
| 15:21.13 | TwoDie | sooo pay to win game |
| 15:23.32 | Repo | New map: Ultra Running - http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/ultra-running/ |
| 15:26.41 | Goa_ | TwoDie I guess they are turning into a true freemium game:D |
| 15:27.02 | Goa_ | soon they will be operated from Canada:D |
| 15:28.30 | TwoDie | idk in what they turning but they trying out as much things as possible to sell those shiets and sell those Arcana stuff between players atleast.. |
| 15:29.25 | TwoDie | meatapult in wc3 |
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| 16:20.45 | Vailreth | hello folks |
| 16:31.05 | TwoDie | hello fox |
| 16:36.26 | Merc | hello farts |
| 16:36.51 | TwoDie | fart hard or go home |
| 16:37.08 | Dustin | Just farted hard AND im at home |
| 16:37.20 | Merc | win / win |
| 16:37.46 | Merc | my protein shakes make my farts frequent and hard, not to mention deathlike |
| 16:39.39 | Zolden | last time I farted, fukushima earthquake happened |
| 16:40.13 | Merc | so you havent farted since 2011? |
| 16:42.57 | Zolden | yea, gathering for new epic one |
| 16:43.13 | Merc | watch where you aim that thing |
| 16:44.11 | TwoDie | zolden is such a gangster |
| 16:44.25 | Zolden | TwoDie is such a gayster |
| 16:44.58 | Zolden | Merc maybe I should change earth axis angle with my next fart, so more sun shine to our nothern lands? |
| 16:57.20 | TwoDie | zolden report ur being high levels |
| 17:00.12 | Dustin | http://i.imgur.com/FYgRb7g.jpg |
| 17:03.58 | TwoDie | ignorance of the MEN! |
| 17:04.48 | Goa_ | is there an easy way to put bunch of unit types into variable (yes I am changing one of my map:)) |
| 17:05.04 | TwoDie | what a nerddddddd |
| 17:05.34 | TwoDie | learn some galazy typing is faster! |
| 17:06.00 | Goa_ | I will probably do that |
| 17:06.20 | Goa_ | thought dont know how will extract all the unit type names/id |
| 17:07.56 | Merc | go for it Zolden |
| 17:18.24 | Zolden | Goa_ ew, mapmaking |
| 17:18.51 | Goa_ | I update Entropy TD from time to time |
| 17:19.02 | Zolden | Goa_ i think last time i had to do it, i copypasted id's |
| 17:19.04 | Goa_ | thought I will update Nexus Squadron Strike now |
| 17:19.23 | Goa_ | Zolden one by one? |
| 17:20.16 | Zolden | i guess |
| 17:20.33 | Zolden | maybe it's faster with xml view, less clicks |
| 17:21.47 | Goa_ | and editor crashes |
| 17:21.49 | Goa_ | how nice |
| 17:22.26 | Zolden | unity giggles |
| 17:25.49 | TwoDie | so much hate to editor so he rewards u with ur given hate!! |
| 17:25.53 | TwoDie | KARMA IS REAL!!! |
| 17:30.22 | Zolden | karman is real |
| 17:32.27 | Dustin | Cartman is real |
| 17:46.06 | Dustin | fucking a |
| 17:46.17 | Dustin | I dont think people can download my map still |
| 17:46.35 | Dustin | I had a nice upload last night that took a bit and got to 100% but noone is joining my lobby :( |
| 17:47.05 | Zolden | yea |
| 17:47.16 | Zolden | it may be fixed in 20 hours |
| 17:47.26 | Zolden | or not |
| 17:47.32 | Zolden | just don't upload |
| 17:49.14 | Merc | http://i.imgur.com/35IVWKt.png |
| 17:49.28 | Merc | better start modeling up some dicks Zolden |
| 17:50.29 | TwoDie | how about those drainor expansion buildings?> |
| 17:50.51 | Merc | I'll check around |
| 17:54.30 | Merc | they're there but I cant view them |
| 17:56.33 | Zolden | Merc yea, that nonsense requires a huge penis |
| 17:56.43 | Zolden | Merc waht about female models? |
| 17:58.18 | TwoDie | :D |
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| 18:06.58 | Merc | the female is there too |
| 18:06.59 | Merc | http://i.imgur.com/Hms2Wrg.png |
| 18:07.24 | Merc | super buggy, and no export function yet |
| 18:07.49 | Merc | trying to make a fake patch with warlords wmo to open with machinima studio now |
| 18:08.09 | Merc | most likely not going to work, so obviously I have to try |
| 18:08.36 | Zolden | man has nipples |
| 18:09.21 | TwoDie | merc how about structures texture what resolution and shiet |
| 18:10.52 | Merc | havent been able to view any structures yet |
| 18:13.16 | TwoDie | texture itself.. |
| 18:13.33 | TwoDie | i understand that u cant open the structure models |
| 18:13.42 | TwoDie | at least give report on those textures |
| 18:16.35 | Merc | they seem to be around 512 |
| 18:16.40 | Merc | but there's more of them |
| 18:18.06 | Zolden | http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/merleblanc84/72357974/822269/822269_original.gif |
| 18:18.10 | Merc | http://i.imgur.com/RrXJR9b.png |
| 18:19.05 | Zolden | engine without normal maps is sad |
| 18:19.19 | TwoDie | will need to dl that expansion to update my wow assets library |
| 18:19.45 | TwoDie | well its mess to recreate every piece of content with normals |
| 18:20.03 | TwoDie | when textures themselves designed to be viewed without them |
| 18:20.18 | Merc | cant you just make a photoshop action |
| 18:20.27 | Merc | burn through all the files |
| 18:20.28 | Zolden | yes, wow is fucked since beginning |
| 18:21.16 | Zolden | Merc only if there will be smart enough script, cause using diffuse as height will create a nightmare instead of normals |
| 18:21.56 | Zolden | oh, and actually those shadows makea it simply impossible for automatization |
| 18:22.16 | Merc | reduce contrast maybe |
| 18:22.17 | Zolden | but they have normkals for the latest expansions assets |
| 18:22.33 | Zolden | they bake diffuse from normals |
| 18:23.07 | Zolden | Merc with lower contrast it will be fucked less, but will not become correct |
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| 19:14.27 | TwoDie | battman |
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| 19:24.32 | TwoDie | epic model http://snag.gy/XxaPg.jpg |
| 19:24.39 | TwoDie | EPCILY SHITYTTY |
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| 19:30.16 | TwoDie | damn wont have working concept today |
| 19:30.32 | TwoDie | and tomorrow almost all day will be spent at feunerauararula |
| 20:02.32 | TwoDie | fucking shit these wc3 icons.. no filters.. |
| 20:08.33 | Zolden | TwoDie yea, greatly shittty |
| 20:09.13 | Zolden | I think it's a reason to quit modeling and become a model |
| 20:09.24 | TwoDie | what |
| 20:09.35 | TwoDie | when i was modeler to begin with |
| 20:09.41 | TwoDie | and its unreleated |
| 20:11.08 | Zolden | hitler once descripbed his nightmare, he saw himself as a king of the europe, and his legs were red of pjuss |
| 20:11.17 | Zolden | he stepped into pjussy accidently |
| 20:11.23 | Zolden | he was 9 years old when he saw that dream |
| 20:11.31 | Zolden | after that he became a 2d artist |
| 20:11.54 | Zolden | and everyone, especially his grandmother greta albricht thought it's unrelated! |
| 20:15.34 | TwoDie | hmm weapon missiles launches from the bottom of the model while it has Weapon attachement points :/ |
| 20:15.59 | TwoDie | tits zolden!! |
| 20:16.15 | Zolden | TwoDie there are some little tricks |
| 20:16.38 | Zolden | actor may not reference weapon attachment poin as launch site |
| 20:16.54 | Zolden | you may have forgotten something in the effect chain |
| 20:17.14 | Zolden | or maybe forgot to define missile actor for attack actor |
| 20:18.04 | TwoDie | yeah |
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| 20:21.54 | Vindicator | yarr |
| 20:22.06 | Zolden | oh, hey |
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| 20:30.58 | TwoDie | alright no clue |
| 21:00.26 | Dustin|Work | hola |
| 21:00.57 | TwoDie | tuna! |
| 21:01.28 | Zolden | poopa |
| 21:10.55 | TwoDie | well i see u all in hell |
| 21:12.04 | ArcanePariah | Another day at work ehh Dustin|Work ? |
| 21:12.20 | ArcanePariah | Bet you finished all your tickets already and ready to chill :D |
| 21:43.42 | Dustin|Work | hehe Yeah I just closed like 3 cases |
| 21:44.04 | Dustin|Work | Working on a website for Bountys Deviant Pixel Studios |
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| 21:52.48 | Dustin|Work | Oh noes, I wore my shirt with a State of California in sunglasses smoking a j to work, guess I'm not taking my jacket off lol |
| 21:57.13 | Zolden | smoking a j? a joint? |
| 21:57.48 | Dustin|Work | ya |
| 21:57.49 | Dustin|Work | :) |
| 21:58.52 | Vailreth | is there away to allow a unit to use one ability at the same time as they are channeling another? |
| 21:59.18 | Vailreth | more specifically can a unit channel two abilites at the same time |
| 21:59.32 | Ahli | make the other ability transient? =/ |
| 22:01.29 | Vailreth | i tried that it simply makes the unit unable to trun and cast the second ability |
| 22:02.36 | Zolden | Ahli u look so nerdy on skype pic! |
| 22:02.47 | Zolden | i think you're look pretty congruent with what you do |
| 22:04.18 | Ahli | my hair is shorter now, does that make me less nerdy? |
| 22:05.05 | Zolden | guess not... but you better think about neck beard to complete the image |
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| 22:15.22 | Ahli | nah, with a beard I don't look like 16 anymore, lol |
| 22:15.44 | Zandose | hey |
| 22:17.31 | Zandose | I was wondering since I never use the editor anymore if I should dump all the things I've made (and havent finished) somewhere for others to see and use. |
| 22:17.56 | Zolden | why not |
| 22:17.59 | Zolden | gave up? |
| 22:18.57 | Zandose | guess so. i jsut dont do it anymore because i never finished anything. |
| 22:19.45 | Vailreth | it would be nice |
| 22:19.52 | Vailreth | i too never finish anything |
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| 22:25.21 | Vailreth | i would be interested in looking at the things you have been working on. |
| 22:29.58 | Zandose | will do |
| 22:30.53 | Zandose | some working and others not: random map generation, custom height system w/ collision, real 3d space map with unlimited size |
| 22:31.11 | Zandose | saving and loading of map enviroments |
| 22:31.20 | Vailreth | cool |
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| 22:36.51 | Zandose | i think i also have a system for changing stats on any unit for like rpg maps |
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| 22:38.27 | greybeard | will LotV have a reconnect system o.O |
| 22:39.36 | Vailreth | i dont know but i do doubt |
| 22:40.24 | Zolden | i think god created boobs from one sphere by cutting it on 2 halfs and attaching to Eva chest |
| 22:43.04 | Zandose | give the men a break, he had a short deadline! 6 days and everything. |
| 22:45.35 | Zolden | and still he finished it, unlike some mapmakers |
| 22:57.46 | Goa_ | then god thought that the boobs girth to uniform so he added gravity to the universe |
| 22:57.56 | Goa_ | too* |
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| 23:06.13 | Zolden | and then he created nerds so some people talk not only about boobs, but about gravity too |
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