IRC log for #sc2mapster on 20141112

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02:47.25IskatuMeskI just grabbed your hips
03:24.32Dustin|Workstop grabbing peoples hips
03:24.52ArcanePariahSup Dustin|Work
03:24.56ArcanePariahHow is life?
03:26.55IskatuMeskgettin grabbed
03:27.00Dustin|WorkNot too bad, just trying to get teamviewer working on my dekstop again, it broke so I had to RDP in
03:28.58Dustin|WorkAdded a random room mode to my StarSmash TV map :D
03:46.44IskatuMeskdo you know how to get a sound to follow the missile around?
03:55.02ArcanePariahNeed to create a sound actor when the missile is created and make the sound host to be unit
04:15.49IskatuMeskwe dunno how host stuff works :3
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07:29.56DNAofDeathHello ppl :)
07:33.16TwoDiehey racist
07:42.32DNAofDeathxD
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09:01.34TwoDiehttp://i.imgur.com/Qri4b3Z.jpg
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10:57.08Goa_TwoDie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdComTp7KsA
11:06.33TwoDieyeah may require dl that soundtrack soemday
11:06.49TwoDielike any other by hanzimmer
11:08.16Goa_hope there will be an ost soon!
11:27.34TwoDiewtf so hypnotized watching those marshmellow people :/
11:55.19turtleshi people
11:55.46TwoDiehi mine turtle
11:57.24Goa_bahh TwoDie, I cant find any place where I could pirate this: https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/interstellar-original-motion/id932220056
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12:09.28TwoDiegoa_ solution is to spend money :s
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12:10.27ZoldenGoa_ check this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkpEz7znpnc
12:10.46Zoldenmagnetic levitation + melting of the metal
12:12.19ZoldenTwoDie check this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_3XSKO-9vk
12:12.24Zoldenno more balls it seems
12:22.35Zoldenall dead?
12:22.37Zoldennoobs
12:22.49ZoldenDNAofDeath u infected them?
12:24.36Zoldennew lotv unit should have been called Herp
12:28.27TwoDietits
12:29.06ZoldenTwoDie is this your country language? http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/merleblanc84/72357974/679200/679200_original.jpg
12:30.34TwoDiezolden from goa  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdComTp7KsA
12:30.43TwoDiezolden yes
12:31.20Zoldenhttp://ic.pics.livejournal.com/merleblanc84/72357974/700671/700671_original.png
12:37.05Zoldenhttp://coub.com/view/3y1mx
12:39.48TwoDielul okay
12:44.20ZoldenTwoDie so, u like finishing the models for Rommperg?
12:44.55Zoldencause when i'm don'e with the new builder for mnm, i'll start that new map, and wil need your modelling penis
12:44.55TwoDiehavent touched them for 2 weeks
12:45.08TwoDiei still havent done other shit
12:45.21Zoldenok, cmon, finish them, u need to improve modelling skill and rapid modelling skill
12:45.35Zoldenok, do other shit too, good idea
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14:07.35DNAofDeathhello bitches
14:08.29DNAofDeathlol
14:08.37Zoldenquiet! the boss is here!
14:10.08DNAofDeathyes its me
14:10.23DNAofDeathruler of the universe
14:34.23Zoldenof the noobiverse
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14:53.14DNAofDeathof the zoldenverse!
14:55.41TwoDieつ ◕_◕ ༽つ giff boss to zolden つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
14:55.48TwoDieqwe
14:58.25DNAofDeathyolo
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15:16.47Zoldenwow
15:17.00Zoldenjust created one more shitty tutorial about art tools
15:17.04Zoldenalmost 30 minutes
15:17.08Zoldenpenis
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15:25.55TwoDienuts
15:27.22TwoDiei would take you home if you would have bigger tits
15:29.08ZoldenTwoDie just make shittons of models fast, get cash and buy big tits!
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15:29.53TwoDietitful idea!
15:42.16Ahlihttp://www.space.com/17933-nasa-television-webcasts-live-space-tv.html science... and people just waiting for the probe's signals
15:46.52ArcanePariahOh that's right, landing on a comet :D
15:46.54VenijnMcSnekkeAhli, my beloved German
15:47.02ArcanePariah...
15:47.27DNAofDeathArcane! :)
15:47.34DNAofDeathhello :):):)
15:47.38ArcanePariahAhli, on a more serious sane note, in current sc2 galaxy scripting, what are the limitations on funcrefs and the like
15:47.44ArcanePariahHey DNAofDeath, how is it going?
15:48.15AhliI don't know. also arc, you need to accept me in skype or something
15:48.51ArcanePariahTry adding me again, for some reason I don't have you requsting
15:48.54ArcanePariahrequesting*
15:48.57Repomafarazzo-td-revamped-2014-editi (experimental): 03DNAofDeath 07master * e8519b4  (68 files in 5 directories): [+1 commit] Created a merged map with the original units but the actual trigger code, user-types and terrain
15:51.02DNAofDeath@ArcanePariah good and you?
15:51.41ArcanePariahPretty good, doing homework atm
15:53.27ZoldenArcanePariah soon u'll be the main target of my data related questions, as I resume mapmaking, hope u no lose your face facing real issues!
15:53.46ArcanePariahAlrighty
16:01.23TwoDieright http://snag.gy/DOl0z.jpg
16:01.47Zoldennot found
16:02.17TwoDiehttp://snag.gy/iS1Xc.jpg
16:04.02Ahliapplause applause applause
16:04.14Zoldennice jew
16:04.58TwoDiethat fart
16:13.02DNAofDeathArcanePariah will you have time this weekend?
16:13.38ArcanePariahI should
16:18.37ZoldenTwoDie just imaging: you're walking along the street in your towm, and a stranger asks a direction to the local twoddery, will you be able to point it, or you don't know where the one located
16:29.44DNAofDeathwhat is a "twoddery" ?
16:31.06DNAofDeathoh please... noooo... http://prntscr.com/55nu9s -.-*
16:31.52Ahlilol
16:33.44DNAofDeaththe original creator of my map just copy&pasted aaaalllllll the things, never renamed them or created 1 unit by himself...
16:33.57DNAofDeathcrazy shit xD
16:34.37DNAofDeathf.e. the sharp tower inherits directly from the mutalisk
16:34.59TwoDiefeels like hacking one of the maps before, where all data entries for new units and shiet is like Marine Copy Copy Copy Copy Copy Copy Copy Copy Copy Copy Copy Copy Copy Copy Copy Copy Copy Copy Copy Copy Copy Copy
16:35.40DNAofDeathhttp://prntscr.com/55nw4l
16:35.52DNAofDeathGlaive Wurm? Oh yes, we have MANY of this!
16:35.59TwoDielul
16:36.00DNAofDeathYou want to taste some?
16:36.04DNAofDeathxDDDDD
16:36.18Ahlinjoy
16:36.26DNAofDeaththere is not even a 'copy' postfix
16:37.08TwoDiethere are ids tho
16:37.34DNAofDeathluckyli i only have to rename 1 million things and not to touch or modify any tower (maybe range or damage, but that should be easy as usual)
16:39.24DNAofDeathi dont even know if i will use that stupid crap or just modify my own created towers...
16:39.43ZoldenDNAofDeath are you preparing to the "wrongest way to create maps" competition?
16:39.50Zoldenyou already ahve the first prize
16:40.05Zoldenone noob uses another noob's shitty noob map
16:40.10Zoldenwhat map will it be?
16:40.12DNAofDeathZolden that isnt my 'code' or 'setup', its the one from the original map i extracted from battle.net
16:40.26Zoldenthat's what i'm talking aboput
16:40.38DNAofDeathu have been a noob before, and everyone starts as a noob
16:40.46ArcanePariah^^^
16:40.47Zoldendig a hole in a pile of shit, that will burn you out and u disappear forever from mapmaking community
16:41.08ArcanePariahZolden, small difference, he does this for a living. Ever done IT?
16:41.17ArcanePariahIT is one giant hole of shit
16:41.32DNAofDeathxDDD
16:41.42ArcanePariahFixing said shit is par for the course :D
16:41.43Zoldenwell, if he has experience in this, he will not burn out too fast
16:42.08ArcanePariahTrust me when I say, no matter how fucked mapmaking gets, it will NEVER compare to some of the epic fuckups in IT
16:42.16DNAofDeathehm
16:42.50ArcanePariahSadly, my goverment has some pretty execellent examples of how to do IT or software projects wrong... :(
16:43.24ZoldenDNAofDeath I have a recipe to unnoob myself, I've tried to share it with you, but it didn't work, now at least I can have fun of your attempts of unnoobing yourself the wrong (from my point of view) way
16:43.43DNAofDeathi worked for a company that offers an payment/abo-Gateways/management-system... they even did not care about security issues... u may imagine how their code was written...
16:45.36DNAofDeathZolen i learned coding by myself 8 yrs ago, _by_ my_ _self_ today im doing it for a living, so thanks, but i dont care XD
16:47.59Zoldenusually people who learned coding by themselves are most successful ones, cause they did it out of love to coding
16:48.31ArcanePariahYes, and also, more importantly, they tend to be pragmatic
16:48.34DNAofDeathyes and i try to make this map cause i love to play it, so why shouldnt i success? XD
16:48.48ArcanePariahaka, figuring out what works, not what theoretically should work.
16:48.59ArcanePariahMind you, theory is still important, because it can prevent MAJOR problems
16:49.03DNAofDeathfist attempt is ever the hardest
16:49.25Zoldenguess, we all created our first map to play something that we want to play, but can't
16:49.37ArcanePariahMost of the pragmatic/simple solutions to certain problems have awful performance
16:49.53ArcanePariahSorting being one of the most common
16:49.55DNAofDeathi remember the days where i did not understand how classes work... writing programms with a single HUGE class xD
16:50.01ArcanePariahLOL
16:50.02ArcanePariah:D
16:50.19ArcanePariahLet me guess, one gigantic main class?
16:50.39Zoldenclassy
16:50.53DNAofDeathno i was working with visual studio and written a win forms programm, so it was the 'form1.class' xD
16:50.57ArcanePariahshakes Zolden hand then slaps him for such a pun
16:51.45DNAofDeathimagine you dont know how classes work and someone tells you about the pros of using interfaces xD
16:51.49ArcanePariahI remember writing my first project in C++, making a monopoly game as project for freshmen programming class in high school, god that was ugly
16:52.18ArcanePariahMostly because we knew nothing about pointers, so you can imagine how that went
16:52.31ArcanePariahAnd this was C++ back in 2002
16:52.33DNAofDeathyeah i have written a complete prcedurally working snake for school, one big main-class, everything happens in one gigantic main-loop
16:52.47DNAofDeath*while(true)-loop
16:53.17ArcanePariahYeah, well, games are basically that, even now. Took a game programming class, prof used python and that was our basic structure
16:53.32ArcanePariahThough python is a weird language imo
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16:53.50DNAofDeaththe very first thing i 'coded' was a website in flash/actionscript 2 xD
16:53.53ArcanePariahGood for scripting something fast, but would never build anything huge in it, just looks awkward to me.
16:53.57ArcanePariahlawl
16:55.34DNAofDeathhttp://pastie.org/private/xzkdcmaz9mpm3vnbalka5a
16:55.38DNAofDeathxDDD
16:55.47DNAofDeaththe snake code xD
16:55.48ArcanePariahlmfao
16:56.34ArcanePariahWhat I find interesting, and I guess it is because of how the software world developed, is how much stuff is in English.
16:56.37DNAofDeathBUT!!! i was able to implement enemy snakes and basic statistics xD
16:57.22ArcanePariahI have to wonder how it is when you don't have English as your first language or speak it at all but still have to use API's and documentation written in English
16:57.32DNAofDeathif i ever see german variable names i would tell the creator that he should do this in english...
16:57.46ArcanePariahDocumenatation can be localized but the API's can't
16:58.01Tomurayou just learn english
16:58.32ArcanePariahFeels like Firefly is where we are going to end up then, everyone speaking English and Mandarin
16:59.16Reponotd-2: 03ArcaneDurandel 07master * afcd70a  (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Added visuals for Ground Illumination Flare
17:00.24DNAofDeathZolden if the map i want to recreate where not a simple TD i would have stopped working with the galaxy editor... because my time is limited and i dont want to stuck in galaxy-editor for years...
17:02.27DNAofDeathi just want to recreate this map and maintain it a bit (bugfixes, maybe some new mechanics, more levels/waves etc., simple things)
17:10.52DNAofDeathwhy is nobody on sc2mapster using git? its such a nice tool
17:11.19DNAofDeathive never seen any commit but mine or arcanes
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17:19.29ArcanePariahProblem is, most mapmakers are not software people. Quite a few are either students, people just dabbling in game making. Also, most of them have probably never done a large project, so the pain of not having source control is something they haven't experienced.
17:20.31ArcanePariahIt is like that old say about people and data backups: THere are 2 kinds of people, those who do backups and those who haven't had a catastrophic data failure yet.
17:23.29ZoldenI do backups and havent had a catastrophic data failure yet
17:23.51Zoldenwhen I finish on many month long project, I do backups once a day
17:24.36ArcanePariahthus you fall into the first category. You are far better then most who think "Why do backups, my data will never go boom"
17:24.56Zoldenhitler once lost all his war plance due to no backuping habig, so he became very nagry and declared a war to everybody
17:25.27ArcanePariahPfft, no, he had backups, he used the cloud. How many copies of Mein Kampf get published?
17:29.16TwoDiethose data backups still sad thing when having only one hdd
17:35.41Zoldenthere's google drive, dropbox, mapster attach
17:36.17TwoDieyeah need to plan to get new hdd
17:36.45Zoldenor get new computer, and keep hdd from the old one
17:37.06TwoDietodiewithnewone
17:37.12TwoDiezolden go play ur shitty map?
17:37.17Zoldengo
17:39.24Zoldeni'm observing first two pages, and there's nothing to play, so it's simultaneously casual, competitive, strategic and nicely nicely made
17:39.47Zoldenonly my map, which i'm almost bored of
17:39.51TwoDiejoin party
17:39.52Zoldenso, time to create another one
17:51.37DNAofDeathgit is no backupsoftware!!!
17:51.43TwoDielloolololololololololol
17:51.45TwoDiewtf
17:52.24DNAofDeathZOLDEN TWODIE!!! YOU HAVE TO IMMEDIATLY START USING GIT OR YOU WILL BE TRANSFORMED INTO OUTERSPACE-SLIME!!!!
17:52.38TwoDiewhat is git?
17:52.59DNAofDeathomg
17:53.14DNAofDeathits a source-control software
17:56.00DNAofDeathhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Git_(software)
17:56.49Ahlihttp://www.cnet.com/news/bazinga-the-big-bang-theory-gets-official-lego-set/
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18:21.44ZoldenTwoDie u angry?
18:23.04TwoDiepissed!!
18:23.19TwoDieneed to go back to do little to no progress on things
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18:24.06DNAofDeathSUFFER!
18:24.38TwoDiei do suffer from laziness :/
18:24.40TwoDiecant fine cure
18:29.08DNAofDeathdo it like me and try to find a job xD
18:29.31TwoDiehahhahah so true!!! :(( "the future of journalism is apparently some idiot compiling lists of ten things for other idiots to read. sometimes they mix it up, 15. 20."
18:29.55TwoDiegood to be u dead inside racist guy
18:30.09TwoDiehaving girlfriend without ass
18:31.08DNAofDeatheh?
18:31.36DNAofDeathbetter than being a troll without a job just trolling the whle day in a IRC-Channel xD
18:32.01TwoDiebitch u dont know me
18:32.41DNAofDeathbut u know me? or what du you try to say with that sentence?
18:32.46DNAofDeath*do
18:35.24DNAofDeathi never offended you, but you me, so dont wonder if someone calls you a troll xD
18:37.15ZoldenTwoDie does your country share border with germany?
18:39.04TwoDieno
18:45.01ZoldenTwoDie http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/merleblanc84/72357974/705854/705854_original.jpg
18:47.15Zoldenwhat could be better than a random nigg photo
18:47.36TwoDienigga with chicken
18:47.42TwoDiethose legs bro
18:47.46TwoDietasty
18:58.56TwoDielol... pants label "keep away from fire"
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19:01.10Zoldendo the equalize genitalia and fire?
19:01.29Zoldenor they imply someone will make an attempt to put genitalia close to fiure?
19:20.52TwoDietits https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-ZyE7a3moA
19:21.42Zoldensad i have u2b sound off without intentions to on it
19:22.55ZoldenTwoDie possible laziness fix is to plan things ahead and not touch internet till all done
19:23.15TwoDiefixed pants
19:23.18TwoDienow eating :/
19:23.26Zoldenit's fucking hard to not touch internet, but it's easier to deal with than everyday cosy laziness
19:23.50Zoldenyouh had pants problems?alot of shit pieces inside?
19:24.12TwoDieother problem was it was too large
19:24.18TwoDieso needed to tight it up
19:37.51DNAofDeathlol
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19:46.27mille25hi
19:46.52ArcanePariahhey mille25
19:47.14ArcanePariahHow is life for you?
19:56.57TwoDie"Will You Click This Picture Of A Sexy Woman, Even If The Video Just Shows Nature Footage? http://www.clickhole.com/r/1403tsd  "
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20:15.46Zoldenok, time to consume some pig flesh to turn it into poop in a couple of days
20:16.03Merccouple of days?
20:16.08Zoldenawkward things we people do to lower body entropy
20:16.26Zoldendunno, how long would it take for the whole cycle?
20:16.35Mercmax 24 hours
20:16.40Zoldenrealy?
20:16.42Merceat some fiber man
20:16.46Zoldento test it?
20:16.52Zoldenok
20:16.55Mercto get your bowels in order
20:17.13Merc"a couple of days" = constipated
20:17.23Zoldeni'm not saying that i know the exact time, it was only a supposition
20:17.25MercI poop at least 2 times a day
20:17.57Zoldenit doesn't mean that you poop sstuff you ate <24 hours ago
20:18.03DNAofDeathArcanePariah u afk?
20:18.16Merctaste it and find out
20:18.39TwoDielol
20:19.26Merc"After you eat, it takes about six to eight hours for food to pass through your stomach and small intestine. Food then enters your large intestine (colon) for further digestion, absorption of water and, finally, elimination of undigested food."
20:20.05Zoldenthis quote doesn't say how long the whole route takes
20:21.00Mercdamn it actually takes a couple of days
20:21.02Mercwhat the hell
20:21.05Zoldenlol
20:21.06Merc"In the 1980s, Mayo Clinic researchers measured digestion time in 21 healthy people. Total transit time, from eating to elimination in stool, averaged 53 hours (although that figure is a little overstated, because the markers used by the researchers passed more slowly through the stomach than actual food). The average transit time through just the large intestine (colon) was 40 hours, with significant difference between men and women: 33 hours for men,
20:21.41MercYet on sunday mornings, I am rid of my breakfast burrito in a few hours, tops
20:21.53MercI guess that is a more special case
20:21.56Zoldenlol
20:22.00Zoldengas travels faster
20:22.04Zoldenlike bikers in traffic
20:22.12Mercthat shit is explosive man
20:22.22Merclike a shotgun blast in the bowl
20:23.10Zoldeninflate baloons, sell to kids, get rich
20:23.47MercI am not convinced of the money potential in that plan
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20:51.55DNAofDeathTwoDie is that you singing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPRF6LCZsLE ???
20:52.47TwoDieyes it is
20:52.58DNAofDeathnice!
20:53.08DNAofDeathbut why you decided to explode at the end?
20:53.40TwoDieworst part that you link not to original creators :/
20:53.47TwoDiegenerating incoming for some niggers
20:53.59TwoDiecause i apear again
20:53.59DNAofDeathi just googled that
20:54.07DNAofDeathso blame google
20:54.12DNAofDeathxD
20:54.19TwoDiewhy the fuck i wouldnt when
20:55.04DNAofDeathas an alternative u can blame the original creators for not being SEO-experts
20:55.19TwoDiehere you generate for these fuckers income
20:55.19TwoDiehttps://www.youtube.com/user/SecretAgentBob
20:56.37DNAofDeathwhy u link youtube? u want to increase youtubes income? link to creators home: http://www.filmcow.com/charlietheunicorn.html
20:57.02DNAofDeathlol embedding videos with quicktime is... worse
20:58.04DNAofDeathi take a bath now, cu soon
21:03.57TwoDiebecause i use addddd block
21:03.58TwoDieso
21:04.12TwoDievisiting them will kill everytime u make praurchesstas
21:06.51TwoDiebtw i dont see how they make any monies there by us visiting them
21:13.14piratehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdPv8bVX4HU#t=136
21:13.25pirateSORR
21:13.26piratehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdPv8bVX4HU
21:16.50piratethat makes me irrationally angry
21:17.39TwoDiefake and gay
21:17.40TwoDiewhy so?
21:20.35piratethat someone would spend so much time and effort
21:20.38pirateto make something so silly
21:21.39pirateplus the triumvirate of mismatched aesthetics
21:22.08pirate(2d diablo. 3d fire, random starcraft ui boxes)
21:22.17pirate*shudders*
21:23.24TwoDie:d
21:30.14TwoDiezolden report
21:35.34TwoDieno reports :/
21:38.48AhliI like how the open map window just freezes after logging in because the dropdown is Blizzard :X
21:40.50Ahlitimeout and drop from bnet to the rescue
21:52.15Ahlihttp://i.snag.gy/RpMnK.jpg >_>
21:54.41Zoldenpirate dude, you haven't played that, it feels very noobly made, just ew
21:54.59piratethis does not surprise
21:56.31DNAofDeathlol ahli, recursion is a nice thing is a nice thing is a nice thing... xD
21:57.50AhliI can't open it, I should start a download, wait, I still can't open it, let's start a download, wait, I still can't ....
21:58.30DNAofDeathexactly xD
21:59.03DNAofDeathepic programming fail, NEVER make a (maybe infinite) loop without a break condition!
21:59.37DNAofDeathe.g. after 10 trys --> break
22:05.49Zoldeni make a while loop without i++ like once a week
22:40.14DNAofDeatheh? u put i++ into a WHILE loops head? u sure u dont mean FOR?
22:41.21Dustin|WorkIt's not unheard of
22:41.34Dustin|WorkWhile (i<10; i++) {}
22:43.53Dustin|Workpirate
22:44.01Dustin|Workit's egod, what do you expect
22:44.12Dustin|WorkHe's the definition of copy pasta script kiddie
22:46.34DNAofDeathive never seen that before 0o really, maybe its because in java, javascript, php and c# u maybe cant use it this way...
22:47.37DNAofDeathproof: http://prntscr.com/55sh8q
22:49.24DNAofDeathalso u missed the 2nd ; in your sample
22:50.07DNAofDeathcan i ask you what language allows that kind of while-loop-heads?
22:54.55Dustin|Workhttp://www.w3schools.com/php/php_looping.asp
22:54.58Dustin|WorkBasically the same thing
22:55.01Dustin|WorkMost languages can
22:55.12DNAofDeathso the most used cannot
22:55.12Dustin|WorkAnd wc3 jass did the same
22:55.42Dustin|Workhttp://codingbat.com/doc/java-for-while-loops.html
22:55.43Dustin|WorkYes most can
22:55.57Dustin|Worknot have the ++i in the main while section
22:56.13Dustin|Workbut you can def while i<number and incremment the i in the loop
22:56.13DNAofDeaththat is what i am complaning since half an hour
22:56.26DNAofDeathu cqannot put x++ into a while loops head
22:56.33DNAofDeathnothing more i said
22:56.50DNAofDeathlol
22:57.06DNAofDeath" but you can def while i<number and incremment the i in the loop" yes, if you are a bad programmer u can surely do that
22:57.30Dustin|WorkC# can do while (n++ < 6)
22:57.45Dustin|WorkThat has nothing to do with being a bad programmer
22:57.59Dustin|WorkThat's a perfectly accepted and used standard for while loops
22:58.14DNAofDeathaha
22:58.37DNAofDeathand for-loops are pointless?
22:58.37Dustin|WorkNot sanitzing inputs and using OOP incorrectly are signs of bad programmers
22:58.40Dustin|WorkNo
22:58.47Dustin|WorkThere's more than 1 way to skin a cat
22:58.56Dustin|WorkProgramming is very situational
22:58.58DNAofDeathi know
22:59.51DNAofDeathbut there are clean-code-tandards and best practices u NEVER should leave alone...
23:00.00DNAofDeath*standards
23:00.18Dustin|Workthere's thousands of best practive 'standards'
23:00.22Dustin|Workpractice*
23:00.27Dustin|WorkBut that still isnt in there
23:00.28DNAofDeathno
23:00.44Dustin|WorkFor each is mainly for itterating over a collection of objects
23:00.45DNAofDeathKISS for example is one of the most important
23:00.52DNAofDeathDRY
23:00.58Dustin|Workwhile is a catch all flexibile loop for other uses
23:01.20DNAofDeathand there are a few others building the core of a good programmers mind
23:01.53Dustin|WorkThat's basic logic
23:01.57Dustin|WorkNOt a standard
23:02.11Dustin|WorkStandards are for syntax and how to handle things
23:02.27Dustin|WorkDRY is just saying dont fuck up OOP
23:02.44DNAofDeathi obviously didnt mean those standards xD
23:06.14DNAofDeaththis year i applied to a company that doing php-applications for customers like BMW, they told me "knowing what OOP is, would be a nice to have" so... i rejected the offer to start there lol
23:07.36Dustin|WorkIm a php developer, and yes going into a place that isnt set in OOP yet, fuck that
23:09.07DNAofDeathOOP is a 'relativeley' new thing to PHP, BUT it is not impossible... but if you have a historical grown codebase with f.e. 20 million lines of code, and NEVER done OOP-Refactorings... so no... just NO... i would NEVER start working for such a company xD
23:10.30DNAofDeathyou will just be the refactoring-bitch... cleaning the odd code that was written ages before...
23:10.42DNAofDeathxD
23:10.48DNAofDeath*would be
23:10.59Dustin|WorkIt's not really new, it's been in for like 5 years now
23:11.12Dustin|WorkBut most people dont understand oop vs procedural
23:11.35Dustin|WorkPHP is fine with OOP if you understand it, but going back and refactoring huge projects liek that sucks big
23:12.13DNAofDeathi think the reason is that php was and is very easy to learn because its weak-typed and procedural and doing strong-typing and OOP is 'just a feature' so everybody can do what he wants...
23:12.32DNAofDeathand there comes the community in
23:13.12DNAofDeathmost forum posts are very old, but well known by google, so the first things u will see if you google something related to php are completely false in mind of OOP
23:13.25DNAofDeathxD
23:15.55DNAofDeathsame thing with the use of mysqli-class... some people still dont use that class but wondering why they get hacked by mysql-injections
23:16.45Dustin|WorkIt's popular because it's a great prototyping language, you can get results fast and easy, but it's gotten a lot better in terms of keeping up with the big boy languages
23:16.55Dustin|Work5.6 is pretty slick and has great features
23:17.02DNAofDeathyes
23:17.14Dustin|Workyeah I use PDO for my sql and php needs
23:17.57DNAofDeathbut its often given that your customers environments are running php < 5.3
23:18.40DNAofDeathi just love the entity-framework in .net
23:19.17DNAofDeathdatabase abstraction is every programmers friend xD
23:21.04DNAofDeathalso using an MVC-Framework should be prefered (in php at least using smarty-engine)
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23:27.44DNAofDeathHejdå?
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23:28.49nice__usernameHello friends~
23:29.13Zoldensya "hi"
23:29.17nice__usernameIf anyone is familiar with changing the weapon on a turret (such as a photon cannon) please get in touch with me .__.
23:29.23Ahlisays hi
23:29.26nice__username^__^
23:29.57Ahlidata weapon or visual weapon?
23:29.57Zoldentower unit -> weapon -> change it to something
23:30.01nice__usernameFor some reason I can change it but the animation refuse to rotate and only fires in one direction while damage is dealth properly : (
23:30.05nice__usernamerefuses *
23:30.21nice__usernameLet me fire up the editor and start playing 1min
23:30.26Zoldenadd a turret
23:31.27nice__usernameTo be specific.  I'm trying to make a cannon shoot the "Napalm spray" weapon from the hellbat.  I'll brb with a recording or smth to show what I've got and how it's not working x_x thx and <3
23:33.30nice__usernameToo many cooks~
23:44.00DNAofDeathLargeAsianTittie xD

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