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| 00:33.29 | Dustin|Work | blargggg |
| 00:40.09 | IskatuMesk | u hi |
| 00:41.16 | IskatuMesk | oh jesus tap dancing christ the gateway has like 14 materials |
| 00:41.33 | IskatuMesk | named descriptive things like "dfdfdf" |
| 00:41.41 | IskatuMesk | and "4454" |
| 00:42.06 | IskatuMesk | well, I guess we're going in head-first tony |
| 00:44.28 | IskatuMesk | okay, it doesn't want to convert again. maybe I should be thankful |
| 00:48.53 | IskatuMesk | the non-expansion one converts. I guess I'll use that one |
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| 02:13.37 | ArcanePariah | Dustin|Work, less blarggg, more hype |
| 02:18.38 | IskatuMesk | ArcanePariah do you know if emissive maps in their entirety need to be inverse when set to player color blend type |
| 02:19.17 | IskatuMesk | I have this issue where when I set the blend type to player color the entire building becomes glowy player color |
| 02:19.21 | IskatuMesk | but for the life of me I can't fix it |
| 02:21.51 | ArcanePariah | I do not know. What I do know about player colors is that they are created from a blend of emissive and diffuse colors, specified in the Game Data object |
| 02:22.07 | Dustin|Work | BLIZzCON OTMORROWWw |
| 02:22.15 | Dustin|Work | Just another 2 hours at work... |
| 02:22.16 | ArcanePariah | #THEHYPEISREAL |
| 02:22.19 | ArcanePariah | Ahahaha |
| 02:22.28 | ArcanePariah | You never answered my question btw |
| 02:22.28 | Dustin|Work | I just saw they are showcasing LOTV matchup! |
| 02:22.33 | Dustin|Work | You asked something |
| 02:22.34 | Dustin|Work | ? |
| 02:23.05 | ArcanePariah | The fridge is stocked, the beer is ready, the couch is prepared and the screens are calibrated and you have your ticket aboard the hypetrain? |
| 02:23.47 | ArcanePariah | And the last leaked sound is awesome and full of win |
| 02:23.56 | ArcanePariah | https://soundcloud.com/starcraft-ii-official/blizzcon |
| 02:24.38 | Dustin|Work | Wewt, ya I got my ticket last week, waas running around on my blizzcon mount on heroes this week |
| 02:25.33 | ArcanePariah | TeeHee, I should do that as well, plus, I MUST HAVE THE PIG |
| 02:25.47 | ArcanePariah | It is so stupid, I must have it |
| 02:25.57 | ArcanePariah | #Grind Mode Engaged |
| 02:26.10 | Dustin|Work | haha oh that piggg |
| 02:26.32 | ArcanePariah | From what I understand it does snort and farts out coins |
| 02:26.50 | Dustin|Work | lmao |
| 02:27.17 | ArcanePariah | I do like the part where blizzard makes some nice things un buyable. |
| 02:27.25 | ArcanePariah | Encourages people to just play |
| 02:28.16 | ArcanePariah | Welp, time to wreck face with Arthas, the one true king |
| 02:29.58 | Dustin|Work | hehe |
| 02:35.42 | IskatuMesk | http://i.imgur.com/Mp5sXBE.png closest I can get |
| 02:35.53 | IskatuMesk | the glowing bits are absolutely refusing to be pure player color |
| 02:36.07 | IskatuMesk | were there a real max plugin I'd import them and meshplit those parts |
| 02:37.57 | ArcanePariah | Err, did you alter the game data? |
| 02:38.00 | IskatuMesk | no |
| 02:38.07 | IskatuMesk | those are altered models |
| 02:38.25 | ArcanePariah | If not, then the game is probably applying the player 1 diffuse/emissive values anyhow |
| 02:38.33 | IskatuMesk | the emissive bits refuse to work without bits in the standard channels which then blend with the PC and become miscolored |
| 02:38.48 | IskatuMesk | or, best case, whole thing turns bright player color |
| 02:39.03 | IskatuMesk | if this was in max I could fix that in seconds, same with the crystals lacking depth |
| 02:39.17 | ArcanePariah | Well, the team colors apply an HDR multiplier |
| 02:39.25 | ArcanePariah | by default it is just |
| 02:39.27 | ArcanePariah | 1 |
| 02:39.33 | IskatuMesk | yeah, these are like 3-5 |
| 02:39.35 | IskatuMesk | in the material |
| 02:39.45 | IskatuMesk | the emissive channel has both alpha and RGB |
| 02:39.52 | IskatuMesk | the alpha is typically where the player color information comes from |
| 02:40.11 | IskatuMesk | however, sc2 is refusing to use just the alpha for the emissive, it has to have RGB as well, which it's blending into the player color |
| 02:40.26 | ArcanePariah | Well, what I'm looking at here says, team colors have 4 values for both emissive and diffuse |
| 02:40.53 | IskatuMesk | the player color on the diffuse seems to just happily ignore color information from RGB |
| 02:40.57 | ArcanePariah | Shows XYZW, which i'm going to asssume matches up with RGBA |
| 02:40.58 | IskatuMesk | else it would be really discolored |
| 02:41.25 | IskatuMesk | hmm... I wonder if there's an alternate kind of team color blend type |
| 02:42.05 | IskatuMesk | guess not |
| 02:42.12 | ArcanePariah | Default values for player 1 are Diffuse: 0.71,0.08,0.12,1 and Emissive of 0.55,0.06,0.09,1 |
| 02:43.08 | IskatuMesk | I think I understand why no one really attempted this before' |
| 02:43.17 | IskatuMesk | though my results are usable, they aren't good |
| 02:43.47 | IskatuMesk | hm... are there any units that by default have team color emissive? |
| 02:44.00 | ArcanePariah | Zealot |
| 02:44.04 | ArcanePariah | Their psi blades |
| 02:44.07 | IskatuMesk | ah yes, let's have a look at him |
| 02:44.55 | IskatuMesk | zealot uses pure black RGB for emissive. Ok... that always comes out invisible for me |
| 02:46.48 | IskatuMesk | ... wat? he's using the specular for his emissive |
| 02:46.50 | ArcanePariah | That solve your issue? |
| 02:47.03 | DNAofDeath | *yawns* |
| 02:47.26 | ArcanePariah | Morning :D |
| 02:47.31 | IskatuMesk | no, it confuses me much more haha |
| 02:47.42 | IskatuMesk | the way this is set up, the zealot should be a miniature sun |
| 02:47.47 | DNAofDeath | xD |
| 02:48.33 | IskatuMesk | time to crack open their zealot max file, one instance those art tools examples shall be most useful |
| 02:48.42 | DNAofDeath | oh man, im dead in the water xD |
| 02:49.42 | IskatuMesk | I.... wat.... ok, so the specular is just referring A which is pure white. |
| 02:50.57 | IskatuMesk | I have no idea what is going on anymore, I did these sorts of things and had no good results :\ |
| 03:10.26 | IskatuMesk | I see. The emissive just isn't changing to player color at all. |
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| 03:49.52 | greybeard | power outage |
| 03:49.55 | greybeard | all day |
| 03:59.10 | IskatuMesk | gettin a little breeze are you |
| 03:59.34 | greybeard | quite |
| 03:59.39 | greybeard | breezy |
| 04:10.46 | greybeard | http://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/2lhxw2/pc_gamer_we_are_both_quite_confident_from_our/ |
| 04:10.56 | greybeard | to virtual ticket or not |
| 04:11.04 | greybeard | perhaps I will win one |
| 04:13.31 | Dustin|Work | I virtual ticketed :D |
| 04:13.56 | DNAofDeath | :P:P:P |
| 04:20.05 | IskatuMesk | the energy lines on the gateway don't leave view before pausing... wow... |
| 04:20.55 | IskatuMesk | chalk that one for my to-do list |
| 04:28.02 | IskatuMesk | why is someone asking me about bw sprites now of all times... buddy I haven't touched that shit for like 5 years, you really think I remember |
| 04:30.02 | Dustin|Work | lol |
| 04:44.19 | IskatuMesk | sup dustin |
| 04:44.20 | IskatuMesk | working hard? |
| 04:47.32 | Dustin|Work | Not anymore! |
| 04:47.37 | Dustin|Work | Off in 13 minutes |
| 04:47.55 | IskatuMesk | oic |
| 05:21.53 | IskatuMesk | I spent 30 minutes trying to figure out why "visibility" wasn't working when RGB multiplier achieves the same thing and does work -.- |
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| 05:56.44 | amin | whats that website where u can paste stuff and it shows it in sc2 GUI? |
| 05:58.01 | amin | nvm |
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| 06:44.39 | IskatuMesk | blizzard... the zeratul model... why... |
| 06:45.53 | IskatuMesk | his right arm is just.... like an intern got twisted on a particularly huge penis |
| 06:46.53 | IskatuMesk | the armblade thing is not welded, and pieces of vertexes are weighted to the arm and dislocate... and the blade model clips through the back... and the arm itself... well, riot would blush. At least the first two are an easy fix |
| 06:50.21 | Goa | so where can I get Blizzard stream? |
| 07:20.53 | Goa | yay, finally copyright is used for something good: http://www.vice.com/read/this-canadian-artist-halted-pipeline-development-by-copyrighting-his-land-as-a-work-of-art-983 |
| 07:25.33 | IskatuMesk | lolharper |
| 07:52.23 | IskatuMesk | that's basically the story of canada. "lolharper" |
| 07:52.30 | IskatuMesk | no one wanted him, so they gave him a majority |
| 07:56.51 | IskatuMesk | and now that I finally have a lead on why those player color glows aren't working, it's time to sleep. stay mad |
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| 12:17.05 | Goa | Zolden I think its the last move from Latvia: https://twitter.com/edgarsrinkevics now Russia has to invade this country too:D |
| 12:19.10 | Goa | also Zolden can you paste your code that exits you from game if your press exit/backspace button on the mobile phone (what you said), I am lazy to google it:D |
| 12:29.23 | Zolden | ok, sec |
| 12:33.47 | Zolden | Goa http://pastebin.com/aqiRVkjK |
| 12:33.59 | Zolden | they can be placed inside update |
| 12:39.04 | Goa | thx! |
| 12:50.13 | Goa | you use menu button? |
| 12:52.38 | Zolden | yea |
| 12:52.46 | Zolden | it's also a standard way to do stusff |
| 12:52.50 | Zolden | like opening options |
| 12:53.10 | Zolden | and it's mentioned in that google "app quality requirements" |
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| 13:07.28 | Goa | but I dont have options menu in my simple games |
| 13:21.00 | Zolden | thne in your menu could be otions like "share", "rate this game", "check my other games", maybe "global leaderboard" |
| 13:22.55 | Zolden | "share" option should generate a screenshot, place it to facebook photos of the user and create a post |
| 13:23.14 | Zolden | or simply link to a premade pic you uploaded somwhere |
| 13:24.16 | Goa | there are problems with linking it to facebook |
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| 13:24.28 | Zolden | well, solve them, others did |
| 13:24.32 | Zolden | i'll try |
| 13:24.34 | Goa | as many people use facebook app and not facebook |
| 13:24.35 | Zolden | there are ways |
| 13:25.05 | Zolden | still there shuold be ways, and they shuold be described somwhere |
| 13:25.08 | Zolden | jsut try to find |
| 13:25.12 | Goa | you can download facebook api and add to it to your game to solve that |
| 13:25.27 | Goa | but I think that might be bit too much effort for nothing.) |
| 13:25.40 | Zolden | well, there were problems with that api as it doesn't upload pics to user's album, or something like this |
| 13:26.02 | Zolden | well, share possibility can drag an addictive gamee to the top |
| 13:26.14 | Zolden | you can just try to implement it |
| 13:26.16 | Goa | may be |
| 13:26.22 | Zolden | can be useful for bigger games |
| 13:26.36 | Goa | I implemented facebook link but nobody used it cause they use facebook app |
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| 13:27.26 | Zolden | can't that app be accessed some way? |
| 13:27.55 | Goa | dont know |
| 13:28.07 | Goa | I think its best that you just use facebook api |
| 13:28.20 | Zolden | what about twitter? |
| 13:28.40 | Goa | nobody uses twitter :D |
| 13:28.47 | Goa | and twitter has its own app too |
| 13:29.10 | Zolden | still all top games have share on fb and twitter possiblities |
| 13:29.23 | Goa | I think all uses api |
| 13:29.25 | Zolden | but i don't know its share in popularity |
| 13:29.30 | Zolden | maybe it's small, maybe big |
| 13:29.37 | Goa | yeah |
| 13:29.41 | Goa | it would be good to know |
| 13:30.05 | Goa | I usually only see people share games on facebook that they play on facebook |
| 13:30.17 | Goa | as they probably get somekind of shitty reward ingame for that |
| 13:30.30 | Zolden | one of the very important things is that your name include many keywords |
| 13:30.38 | Zolden | also that short description |
| 13:31.01 | Goa | thats like a general rule for everything on the internet |
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| 13:31.15 | Zolden | as many related keywords as you can put there, but still it shiould be a reasonable sentences as one expects to see in descriptions, or goodle won't apprve it |
| 13:41.09 | Merc | "fun addictive game" |
| 13:43.15 | Vindicator | today's the day for big news. i expect blizzard to announce they are not just ditching titan, but ditching the whole industry to start pursuing space travel |
| 13:43.45 | Vindicator | as well as purchasing a small country from their WoW coffers |
| 13:44.03 | Goa | :D |
| 13:44.50 | Goa | I thought they will announce that they will try their luck in the new US weed industry :) |
| 13:46.00 | Zolden | i think they will confirm that they have been supporting weed lobby for years, cause people play wow on weed to deper dive into the fantasy world |
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| 13:50.13 | Goa | what will Metallica play on blizzcon? |
| 13:50.40 | Goa | btw I didnt even know that they still exists until now... |
| 13:51.02 | DNAofDeath | rotzlöffel |
| 13:51.22 | Ahli | I've heard rumors of "new game" revealed during opening ceremony.... |
| 13:51.39 | Zolden | if rock band's leader didn't shot himself or died from heroin + cocaine overdoze, the band will exist till theyir legs can keep them standing |
| 13:52.40 | Zolden | Ahli it's blizzard new strategy, no more direct "soon"'s, they forcing their fans to generate "rumors" by themselves |
| 13:53.37 | Ahli | well, we will find out in 5 hours |
| 13:53.44 | Zolden | like if they find a new piece of shit somwhere in wow's desert, they think it's a hint, that there will be new game in 10 years |
| 13:55.06 | Zolden | or fans don't know any hints any more, they have just gone a bit crazy after all those unhandled expectations, so their imagination generates new hopes without any proof at all |
| 13:55.39 | pirate | Half Life 3 confirmed |
| 13:55.52 | Zolden | confirmed bby your carrot? |
| 13:56.09 | Zolden | oh, it's parrot |
| 13:56.13 | Zolden | ;/ |
| 13:57.43 | Zolden | Goa putin now speaks of love istead of hitler, and kremlin doesn't officially approve the referendum at occupied territories anymore, while rubble is rocketing down |
| 14:03.57 | Goa | Zolden I guess there is limit how much economy pressure he can handle |
| 14:06.56 | Zolden | limit is already passed, people are nervous, buying dollars, which created a positive feedback circuit, the more rubble falls, the more it falls |
| 14:08.14 | Zolden | putin is nervous too, i guess |
| 14:08.48 | Zolden | he understands that people don't care about new territories when they can't buy food |
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| 14:28.44 | Goa | Zolden I am not sure in that, otherwise he wouldnt have banned some food imports from EU. |
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| 14:35.55 | TwoDie | came just before the rain started |
| 14:36.02 | TwoDie | so saw that hype movie |
| 14:39.12 | Rommper | which one? |
| 14:41.00 | Zolden | Goa it doesn't matter, most of food is imported, and falling of ruble means fod prices will grow proportionally |
| 14:41.33 | TwoDie | interstellar |
| 14:41.35 | Zolden | TwoDie you could come just before the train started |
| 14:42.08 | TwoDie | how train starts? |
| 14:42.13 | Goa | Zolden I was meaning that Putin put a knife into himself with that ban and I am not sure he realized that. |
| 14:42.39 | Zolden | TwoDie when it starts moving somwhere, cnd coming before means you can get into it and get moved to a far place |
| 14:42.43 | Goa | TwoDie you already seen Interstellar? |
| 14:43.11 | Zolden | Goa that ban had not that much impact on suff, the whole agression thing did everything |
| 14:43.30 | Zolden | TwoDie no spoilers, just share your impresison |
| 14:43.34 | TwoDie | yes that is correct |
| 14:43.51 | Goa | dont even share impression thats spoiler |
| 14:43.57 | TwoDie | :d |
| 14:44.04 | Zolden | TwoDie or you could come just before the terrain started |
| 14:44.06 | Goa | I am going to see it in 5 hours |
| 14:44.10 | Goa | so shout up:D |
| 14:44.14 | TwoDie | :< |
| 14:44.18 | Zolden | there will be blizzcon in 5 hours |
| 14:44.22 | TwoDie | okay mom |
| 14:44.23 | Zolden | or 3.5 |
| 14:44.46 | Zolden | how long that movie again? 3.5 hours? |
| 14:45.47 | Goa | 2.5 |
| 14:46.22 | Zolden | yea, no one could sit that much being high without a bunch of cheesburgers |
| 14:46.41 | Ahli | Blizzcon in 4h and 14 minutes |
| 14:46.47 | DNAofDeath | :P |
| 14:48.09 | Ahli | I know someone that starts working for Blizz on monday... ;D |
| 14:48.11 | TwoDie | yeah a bit too long |
| 14:48.43 | Zolden | "too long" is a daft punk song |
| 14:49.39 | Zolden | associative memory is tricky |
| 14:50.21 | Zolden | crap, using only 1/4 of ass to sit, other chair space occupied by sleeping cat |
| 14:53.33 | Ahli | just engineer a sleeping cat mover tool and become rich |
| 14:54.01 | Goa | ohh Zolden you were speaking of this: http://en.ria.ru/society/20141107/195261798/Putin-Life-Means-Nothing-Without-Love.html |
| 14:55.10 | Goa | "The meaning of our whole life and existence is love. It is love to the family, to the children, to the motherland" |
| 14:56.44 | Dustin|Home | Blizzcon day :D |
| 15:00.51 | Zolden | Goa yea :) he's trying to look less odious |
| 15:08.59 | TwoDie | wtf best year for movies? |
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| 15:17.59 | Zolden | TwoDie what's your favorite holliwood moview ever? |
| 15:20.09 | TwoDie | currently i would say a lot of enjoyable moves been seen.. but in the end it may be that one batman movie |
| 15:20.26 | Zolden | nerdy enough |
| 15:20.30 | TwoDie | :] |
| 15:20.39 | Zolden | i'd name star wars or total recall |
| 15:21.45 | TwoDie | yeah still didnt really watched star wars movies, first 3 lords rings movies, godfathers, and other hyped classics |
| 15:22.21 | Goa | pff |
| 15:23.05 | Goa | Dune, Contact, Donnie Darko are the best |
| 15:23.49 | TwoDie | have saw these too: Dune, Contact |
| 15:24.02 | TwoDie | and all those hyped space robot movies |
| 15:24.08 | TwoDie | from ten years ago |
| 15:24.08 | Zolden | i was corrupted by herbert's whole dune series, so the movie is a pale reflection |
| 15:24.29 | Zolden | TwoDie u never saw 4, 5, 6 star wars? |
| 15:24.56 | Zolden | the classic ones? |
| 15:25.11 | TwoDie | never saw any star wars movies only know thematics from all other media like family guy or lego games cutscenes |
| 15:25.24 | Zolden | wow |
| 15:25.38 | Zolden | just go watch them now, they are blow ass |
| 15:26.03 | TwoDie | need shit to do but first lets waste time on some internet pron |
| 15:26.53 | Zolden | Goa well, read that blindsight book i recently recommended, that's the contact u'll like |
| 15:28.50 | Goa | Zolden any link to digital format (audio book good too:D) |
| 15:31.53 | Zolden | cmon, google it |
| 15:32.03 | Zolden | i only have link to russian one |
| 15:32.53 | Goa | no version onpiratebay :( |
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| 15:45.38 | ArcanePariah | Good morning. |
| 15:45.46 | ArcanePariah | ahoy pirate |
| 15:45.49 | Ahli | morning |
| 15:46.07 | ArcanePariah | good evening Ahli, DNAofDeath |
| 15:46.57 | ArcanePariah | So, who here is going to be at the Arcade Mini talk today? I assume someone will be giving us info afterwards? |
| 15:48.29 | pirate | and ask them about what arcade devs can do to make themselves stronger candidates for things like heroes assistant tech designer positions |
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| 15:51.35 | Zolden | Goa http://rifters.com/real/Blindsight.htm |
| 15:51.44 | Goa | yeah |
| 15:52.03 | Goa | thats the link from where I downloaded the first time you said about a week ago:D |
| 15:52.10 | Goa | I just didnt remember of it:D |
| 15:52.57 | Zolden | my downloads folder is too full of stuff i don't remember where and why i get it |
| 15:57.04 | DNAofDeath | hi Arcane |
| 15:57.17 | Ahli | damned, magazine unit is magically teleported to the point where a launch unit effect should go. but they enter the carrier during the launch effect... now they are teleported there after release... |
| 16:04.27 | Ahli | redirect after spawn fixes it :) |
| 16:04.49 | Ahli | oh no damned.... |
| 16:07.40 | Zolden | ArcanePariah the idea is not to giving info to us (even though it's expected they record it on video), the idea is to insonify mapamekrers' multiple wishes and see what they answer |
| 16:10.15 | ArcanePariah | Zolden: correct, but I still want the info of the session itself. |
| 16:12.25 | Zolden | will at least some of scu dudes be there? |
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| 16:21.44 | ArcanePariah | No idea |
| 16:22.05 | ArcanePariah | Kreation might, mille unlikely, unless he somehow got plane tickets |
| 16:22.39 | Ahli | contest winners are there, I assume |
| 16:23.45 | ArcanePariah | Yes, afaik |
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| 16:24.47 | TwoDie | well i guess soon will be watching movie about rape, lies that convices people to murder you |
| 16:30.45 | DNAofDeath | lalala |
| 16:31.12 | DNAofDeath | trying to connect jira with gitlab, seems impossible -.- |
| 16:38.52 | TwoDie | LOLLOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL |
| 16:39.18 | TwoDie | blizz utube channel with new videos named: WoW hype video ; SC2 Hype video |
| 16:39.20 | TwoDie | :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDd |
| 16:41.39 | TwoDie | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0csrAjchT4 |
| 16:43.30 | Zolden | in taiwanian official storm video there's dustin browder speech, while other language storm channels doesn't have that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S9uG88TDIw |
| 16:44.42 | Zolden | TwoDie i think you meay rather like videos about people shitting in each other mouthes without asking permission |
| 16:46.09 | Rommper | why did you guys recorded a music video? :( |
| 16:46.11 | Rommper | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrWrsTNCXnE |
| 16:47.50 | TwoDie | zolden i already watched that shitting pron |
| 16:47.58 | TwoDie | its not so great how i imagined |
| 16:49.34 | Zolden | TwoDie there's russian writer who's books are all about people eating shit |
| 16:49.38 | Zolden | do you know him> |
| 16:49.43 | Zolden | i've read all his books |
| 16:50.16 | TwoDie | no one video with people being shit one was enough internet for that day |
| 16:54.36 | Zolden | do people shit on each other in interstellar? |
| 16:54.38 | TwoDie | LAZEEEEEEERS http://i.imgur.com/39kQQrk.jpg |
| 16:55.20 | TwoDie | zolden it would decrease the audiance age that could cum to see the movie |
| 16:55.29 | TwoDie | so they refused the generous offer |
| 16:55.47 | TwoDie | but with special edition they may include these excluded scenes |
| 17:01.43 | Zolden | TwoDie http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/53/119/dg3.gif |
| 17:02.14 | Zolden | how protoss tits doing? |
| 17:02.33 | *** join/#sc2mapster Triceron (~Triceron@24.86.33.144) |
| 17:02.43 | Triceron | poop |
| 17:03.07 | Merc | feces |
| 17:03.48 | Ahli | 2h remaining |
| 17:06.27 | TwoDie | zolden pooping is still in stale mate |
| 17:11.13 | ZeFrenchAccent | Ahli, I'm going to write a tragedy about Hitler. |
| 17:11.16 | ZeFrenchAccent | As the tragic villain |
| 17:11.31 | ZeFrenchAccent | I will attempt to make the audience feel both disgusted at his actions yet sympathetic for his plight and suffering. |
| 17:11.56 | Triceron | good luck with that |
| 17:13.47 | ArcanePariah | Hey Merc |
| 17:13.59 | Zolden | Triceron hey |
| 17:14.01 | ArcanePariah | Ready to get your mind warped? |
| 17:14.09 | Triceron | Ahoy Zolden |
| 17:14.55 | Zolden | Triceron so, what are you modelling these days? |
| 17:15.03 | Triceron | not too much |
| 17:15.20 | Triceron | subbed back into WoW for a month, so yeah |
| 17:15.40 | Triceron | i want in Heroes so bad |
| 17:15.57 | Zolden | lol |
| 17:16.22 | Zolden | do u have virtual ticket? |
| 17:17.48 | Zolden | is it true that monsters in wow now shit, and their shit lays on the gorund for the long time untile a player step in it? |
| 17:19.14 | Vindicator | lol |
| 17:19.58 | Vindicator | that's the reveal blizz has been getting all excited about, new shit physics. |
| 17:20.30 | Zolden | and new textures with brown foots |
| 17:20.34 | ArcanePariah | lol, funny enough, that would be cool, simply because that kind of physics is basically impossible to do in real time perfectly |
| 17:20.38 | Ahli | http://youtu.be/E9gVBghAprg stupid bug with magazine units returning while being under the effect of a launch unit |
| 17:20.41 | Zolden | as a reward for stepping in 100 shits |
| 17:20.49 | Zolden | also new shitting animations for all monsters |
| 17:21.51 | ArcanePariah | Triceron, well, they have been ramping up invites as of late, so you are more likely to get in nowadays |
| 17:22.34 | Zolden | Ahli that bug was a problem for my homm map, so I had to implement return with triggers: all magazine units immediately get teleported to the owner |
| 17:23.32 | Zolden | but in my case that was jsut unit radius based collision + low speed of magazine units |
| 17:25.02 | Ahli | my launch effect is there to make interceptors move while occupying the same space as the carrier (disabled move ability prevents entering it) |
| 17:25.59 | Vindicator | their going to take their motorcycle reality show from WoW to the next level with SC2 and contract Boeing and lockheed martin against each other to make a terran and protoss aircraft. whichever one the community votes for gets put in the game HYPE! |
| 17:26.05 | Vindicator | *they're |
| 17:26.13 | ArcanePariah | So... Helicarrier? |
| 17:26.26 | Vindicator | one makes terran, other makes protoss |
| 17:26.55 | ArcanePariah | its Boeing and Lockheed, they would both make the same damm thing, and just overcharge you differently |
| 17:28.12 | Vindicator | ok here we go, Blizz: Ok guys, we're super excited about this announcement; we've been working hard towards it for DECADES! : We're all retiring!!! HYPE! |
| 17:29.35 | Triceron | anyone get virtual ticket this yr? |
| 17:29.46 | ArcanePariah | Yes |
| 17:29.52 | ArcanePariah | Dustin|Home: also has it |
| 17:29.59 | Triceron | nice |
| 17:30.17 | ArcanePariah | along with much booze and and much screaming as people ask stupid questions (Vids or it didn't happen Dustin|Home ) |
| 17:30.54 | Zolden | feels like those minions speak the same language as those little fluffy dudes from star wars 6 episode http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9-FCC6I7u0 |
| 17:31.34 | Triceron | ewoks? |
| 17:31.47 | Zolden | i guess... don't remember their names |
| 17:31.57 | Zolden | they worshipped c3po |
| 17:32.11 | Triceron | ya |
| 17:32.27 | Triceron | if only c3po was an evil master |
| 17:35.22 | Zolden | he is actually evil, he just had program block on his evil module. but once, when they had sex with r2d2, that block was accidently removed because r2d2 was a hacker, and tried to reveal new grades of robot sex pleasure... so, this is the plot of the 7th star wars episode |
| 17:36.09 | Goa | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pfg34mY-0gU |
| 17:36.52 | Goa | blackholes are cool |
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| 17:41.53 | Zolden | yes, their temperature is close to -273'C |
| 17:42.33 | Zolden | even santa claus' shit is warmer |
| 17:45.39 | Ahli | http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/new/ and so it begins |
| 17:46.07 | Triceron | I think that was a given |
| 17:46.10 | pirate | 75 minutes early? |
| 17:46.20 | Triceron | it's not early, the doors open 9 |
| 17:46.24 | Triceron | and they have posters up |
| 17:47.02 | pirate | ah |
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| 17:49.29 | Zolden | "Jaedong cries like a little baby and runs away when asked if he plays League of Legends" |
| 17:52.14 | Zolden | i liek this photo not because it's blizzcon related, but because i'm watching it from cloudy rainy coldy darky place https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B12rCXnCIAABNMH.jpg |
| 17:52.55 | Zolden | also, it looks like all blizz fans are boxers |
| 17:53.02 | Zolden | or just very fat and grown up |
| 17:53.11 | Ahli | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B12weobCQAABIlk.jpg:large playable lotv?! |
| 17:53.11 | Zolden | look at those backs |
| 17:53.32 | Zolden | Ahli why not, some missions could be playable |
| 17:54.02 | Zolden | animations between missions must be the most time consuming part |
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| 17:59.06 | Rommper | whoa |
| 17:59.07 | Rommper | cool |
| 18:00.23 | Triceron | so is the Heroes team completely separate from LoTV/SC2 now? |
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| 18:01.14 | pirate_ | yes |
| 18:01.52 | Ahli | really? |
| 18:02.03 | Ahli | afaIk, it's both team 1 |
| 18:02.37 | Vindicator | https://twitter.com/shindags/status/530780482318135296 |
| 18:03.17 | pirate | I thought they split the team |
| 18:03.22 | pirate | I unno, I make stuff up |
| 18:03.30 | pirate | there's obviously some overlap |
| 18:04.00 | pirate | but under the careers page theyre hiring under different teams |
| 18:07.37 | Triceron | what does that worker change even mean |
| 18:08.07 | Merc | lol if you see all those tweets from that shindags guy they're all pretty out there |
| 18:08.17 | Merc | most likely pulling everyone's leg |
| 18:09.06 | Merc | also, hello ArcanePariah! |
| 18:09.08 | Merc | ready when you are |
| 18:10.13 | Triceron | less than an hour now |
| 18:10.14 | Merc | actually, Infeza just confirmed the part about 12 workers over twitter |
| 18:10.28 | Merc | https://twitter.com/inFeZa/status/530783789786480640 |
| 18:10.36 | Triceron | what's the change? How many workers is it usually |
| 18:10.53 | Merc | 6 |
| 18:11.19 | Merc | almost start with a saturated base, which is 16 |
| 18:11.35 | Merc | RIP 6 pool |
| 18:11.37 | Triceron | oh wow, they meant starting workers |
| 18:11.48 | Merc | seems so |
| 18:13.05 | Triceron | i wonder if they'll add any more multiplay units |
| 18:13.08 | Triceron | they seemed against it before |
| 18:13.22 | pirate | theres something called a Disruptor |
| 18:13.23 | Merc | sure hope so |
| 18:13.34 | pirate | so probably 1 new unit per race |
| 18:13.52 | Merc | and some unit changes as a ripple effect I assume |
| 18:15.21 | Merc | "the ravager has a seige fireball that takes 3 sec to launch and destroys them." |
| 18:15.50 | Merc | "Warping takes 8 seconds now and warping units take 200% damage. Zerg has unit to break forcefields" |
| 18:16.05 | Merc | ^the ravager |
| 18:16.35 | Triceron | ravagr and disruptor, cool |
| 18:16.38 | Ahli | Blizz doing what nobody expected... altering the whole game? |
| 18:17.09 | Zolden | it's not 12 workers at start, it's command center gives 12 supply points |
| 18:17.29 | Ahli | oh :D |
| 18:18.24 | Merc | "Battle cruisers warp to anywhere you have vision" |
| 18:18.27 | Merc | jesus what the fuck |
| 18:19.38 | Merc | "Swarm host now manual mode and no longer burrows. Upgrade for flying locust" |
| 18:20.32 | TwoDie | âToy Story 4" will hit theaters in June 2017 |
| 18:21.17 | Zolden | TwoDie too futuristic |
| 18:22.09 | Zolden | weren't battlecruisers wrapping in some cinematics? or i'm mistaken with star wars? |
| 18:22.45 | Triceron | they warp in both |
| 18:28.38 | TwoDie | so when they will announce those yachts for mappers with additional content like ladies inside |
| 18:29.04 | Zolden | TwoDie yacht are only for people who have mages in their maps |
| 18:29.33 | TwoDie | :< |
| 18:30.05 | Merc | http://instagram.com/p/vG6dQ6OkCP/ |
| 18:30.12 | Merc | lol that's what I wanted for my mod |
| 18:30.24 | Merc | guess that'll be easier to implement now |
| 18:32.17 | Zolden | why is there hashtag in instagram if i can't even click on it to see al photos sharing this hashtags |
| 18:32.23 | Merc | https://twitter.com/inFeZa/status/530789381875847168 |
| 18:32.30 | Merc | that is fucking massive |
| 18:35.45 | Ahli | reset of melee mapmaking :D |
| 18:37.01 | Ahli | carbotanimations (starcrafts guy) confirms lurker... |
| 18:37.28 | Triceron | :O they brought back lurker! |
| 18:38.21 | Zolden | many things will change back to normal |
| 18:38.30 | Zolden | remember that awkward unit from early hots |
| 18:41.11 | Ahli | a-move long range burst damage mech unit? |
| 18:41.20 | Ahli | yes, I remember |
| 18:41.46 | Merc | Warhound |
| 18:41.51 | Merc | man that was a terrible idea |
| 18:41.58 | Triceron | don't tell me they brought that back |
| 18:42.00 | Merc | "guys we made a mech marauder" |
| 18:42.02 | Triceron | it was terrible |
| 18:44.07 | Ahli | they added a barracks unit that can hook onto other units or so |
| 18:47.36 | Ahli | inb4 sc2 becomes a 2vs2 e-sport in archon mode with the expansion changes |
| 18:48.00 | Merc | that would rule |
| 18:48.18 | Merc | finally someone else to blame than yourself |
| 18:48.19 | Merc | hur hur |
| 18:49.11 | Zolden | i can imagine one of the archon mode players angrily punches his co-player for being noob, after gg |
| 18:49.11 | Ahli | you start with 12 workers, minerals only have like 1k mins instead of 1500 |
| 18:49.34 | Zolden | crazy |
| 18:49.54 | Zolden | they just realized that early game is boring |
| 18:49.59 | Ahli | https://twitter.com/inFeZa |
| 18:50.46 | Triceron | mates of starcraft? |
| 18:51.13 | Merc | m8s |
| 18:52.18 | Triceron | 'Carrier moves quicker' |
| 18:52.21 | Triceron | didn't they remove in HOTS? |
| 18:52.24 | Zolden | Ahli this is for you "carrier moves quicker. 90sec build time. Can release interceptors all instantly and keep fighting even if carrier dies." |
| 18:52.26 | woodgiraffe | They brought it back |
| 18:52.43 | Triceron | so many changes |
| 18:53.08 | Merc | everything was pretty crazy when HotS was revealed too |
| 18:53.13 | Merc | but they toned it down |
| 18:53.45 | Triceron | true |
| 18:53.48 | Triceron | removed a lot |
| 18:54.15 | Merc | wouldnt put it past them to make everything extra crazy just to cause extra hype |
| 18:54.57 | Ahli | >50% will change till release entirely again :D |
| 18:55.16 | Triceron | oh it's about to start |
| 18:55.18 | Ahli | hots -> release, alpha -> wol release... |
| 18:55.33 | Ahli | show stuff... trash it... |
| 18:58.27 | Zolden | wtf is going on here? http://eu.battle.net/blizzcon/en/live-stream/ |
| 18:58.36 | Zolden | is it life or some stuff from past? |
| 18:58.43 | Merc | it's live |
| 18:58.47 | Ahli | which panel/channel? |
| 18:58.49 | Merc | opening ceremony about to start |
| 18:58.57 | Triceron | just listenint to pre-show stuff |
| 18:59.10 | Ahli | blonde and asian femals talking.... yes that's live |
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| 18:59.22 | woodgiraffe | It's bimbo friday |
| 18:59.28 | Zolden | Ahli it starts in a minute or in hour and a minute? |
| 18:59.33 | ArcanePariah | 1 minute |
| 18:59.38 | Triceron | Heroes as an esport.... |
| 18:59.54 | ArcanePariah | Yeah... and blizzard isn't even doing anythnig, its everyone else |
| 19:00.01 | Merc | sup ArcanePariah |
| 19:00.03 | Rommper | its 20:00 already |
| 19:00.11 | Zolden | crap, i don't have time to poop ;/ |
| 19:00.11 | ArcanePariah | Blizzard isn't trying to make it an esport, but people are already running tournys |
| 19:00.13 | Rommper | start the ceremony already ! |
| 19:00.23 | Merc | Guess we're both too excited to pay attention to a live tutorial right now :D |
| 19:00.26 | ArcanePariah | Which is a good thing imo |
| 19:00.27 | Ahli | shut up ad give us morhaime and co |
| 19:00.35 | ArcanePariah | Merc, I can multitask :d |
| 19:00.36 | ArcanePariah | :D |
| 19:00.44 | Triceron | GEEK IS |
| 19:00.47 | Merc | lets see the opening ceremony first! |
| 19:00.53 | woodgiraffe | Oh boy, there will be so much boring WoW and stuff |
| 19:00.53 | Merc | all ready for you after that |
| 19:00.55 | ArcanePariah | Then again, the school computer is shit |
| 19:01.07 | Merc | so excited about all these new changes |
| 19:01.34 | Merc | archon mode looks awesome |
| 19:01.45 | Merc | I kinda wanted that for my own mod, now I wont even have to do anything :p |
| 19:01.47 | ArcanePariah | Warcraft I... LOL |
| 19:01.50 | Triceron | what is archon mode |
| 19:01.50 | Rommper | yeah |
| 19:01.55 | Rommper | 20 y old :D |
| 19:01.59 | ArcanePariah | Christ |
| 19:02.00 | Merc | archon mode = coop mode |
| 19:02.08 | Merc | http://instagram.com/p/vG6dQ6OkCP/ |
| 19:02.11 | ArcanePariah | I remember playing that, god mod, demon and wate elementals :D |
| 19:03.02 | woodgiraffe | Archon mode sounds neat |
| 19:03.29 | Triceron | oh, it was SC1 mode |
| 19:03.32 | Triceron | whatever it was called |
| 19:03.43 | Triceron | team something |
| 19:03.45 | ArcanePariah | Archon mode is very interesting |
| 19:03.45 | Triceron | shared team? |
| 19:03.50 | Merc | yuå |
| 19:03.53 | Merc | yup* |
| 19:04.03 | Merc | it has a lot of potential |
| 19:04.11 | Merc | what has been lacking in sc2 is the social gameplay |
| 19:04.19 | Triceron | the trolling potential is through the roof |
| 19:04.23 | Merc | :D |
| 19:04.27 | ArcanePariah | Dustin|Home: ... I have to lol, remember your extension mod? |
| 19:04.30 | woodgiraffe | What was lacking in sc2 is a not broken protoss race Kappa |
| 19:04.35 | Ahli | siege tanks being picked up in siege mode... I guess they added that after my bug report... |
| 19:04.53 | ArcanePariah | Why does Mike Morhaine sound so fucking young? |
| 19:04.55 | Ahli | because I had to make a workaround to implement that in starbow :D |
| 19:05.00 | ArcanePariah | Even though he is like 50+? |
| 19:05.12 | Merc | yeah he's like a kid, it's awesome |
| 19:05.12 | woodgiraffe | Because human diversity |
| 19:05.26 | ArcanePariah | Ahli: wouldn't a validator be enough to fix that? |
| 19:05.31 | Zolden | maybe he has two penises? |
| 19:05.37 | woodgiraffe | Mhhhhhhh two penises |
| 19:05.47 | ArcanePariah | 2 girls 2 dicks? |
| 19:06.06 | Ahli | when I did that, max speed was required |
| 19:06.23 | Ahli | to be > 0 |
| 19:06.34 | Zolden | crap, he mentioned russia near africa and brazil, what a humiliation! |
| 19:06.44 | Zolden | putin should take cali away from usa |
| 19:06.51 | woodgiraffe | oh no, bad bad trolls |
| 19:07.11 | ArcanePariah | Lol Zolden, he can try |
| 19:07.18 | Triceron | gamergate? |
| 19:07.39 | Ahli | are you a few seconds in future? |
| 19:07.49 | woodgiraffe | Probably, buffering and stuff |
| 19:07.51 | ArcanePariah | Yes, most likely. And he probably is, depending on where he is. |
| 19:08.05 | ArcanePariah | Since it is probably being CDN distributed and cached |
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| 19:08.26 | Ahli | btw, stream works flawlessly on chrome |
| 19:08.31 | Triceron | wait, talking about me? |
| 19:08.32 | ArcanePariah | Yes |
| 19:08.45 | ArcanePariah | Yes to Ahli, it does |
| 19:08.49 | Triceron | he just mentioned WoD |
| 19:08.53 | Triceron | so I dunno where you guys are |
| 19:08.55 | ArcanePariah | Though Flash it is still a memory hog |
| 19:08.55 | Ahli | suck it firefox :S I'm not that mad about you opera12.17 :'( |
| 19:10.08 | woodgiraffe | Yay ebola! |
| 19:10.16 | ArcanePariah | I do remember when WoW launched, Blizzard was so unprepared for its popularity, it took some people weeks to play, they had to rush order servers |
| 19:10.38 | Triceron | it was terrible lol |
| 19:10.39 | Ahli | everyone in crowed typing on their smartphones.... |
| 19:10.40 | Rommper | another warcraft announcment... |
| 19:10.42 | Rommper | pet... |
| 19:10.44 | Triceron | oooh movie |
| 19:11.10 | ArcanePariah | Triceron: Terrible in the best way |
| 19:11.16 | Zolden | i'm watching in opera, adn it has some awkward jumps |
| 19:11.19 | Zolden | and repeats |
| 19:11.23 | Zolden | of 1 second |
| 19:11.24 | ArcanePariah | And yes, you are ahead by a couple seconds |
| 19:12.39 | ArcanePariah | I still can not believe how much WoW has made an impact on culture, that people treat it nearly like life |
| 19:13.00 | Triceron | *cough* |
| 19:13.17 | woodgiraffe | How long is this overall? |
| 19:13.41 | Triceron | 2 days |
| 19:13.49 | woodgiraffe | I see |
| 19:14.17 | woodgiraffe | lol MC |
| 19:14.45 | Zolden | wow was possible because there was a huge community of tolkien fans who played wow in real life |
| 19:15.00 | Triceron | *cough* |
| 19:15.30 | Triceron | Mmm, heroes news |
| 19:15.40 | Zolden | I switched to chrome from opera, and there's different video. In opera there was a dude on stage, and in chrome, theres monsters with evil voices |
| 19:16.25 | Triceron | swweeeeeeeet! more warcraft heroes |
| 19:16.55 | ArcanePariah | Jaina and Thrall |
| 19:16.57 | ArcanePariah | Sweet |
| 19:17.19 | woodgiraffe | Awesome, LV |
| 19:17.21 | Triceron | :O |
| 19:17.26 | Triceron | lost vikings!!! |
| 19:17.47 | ArcanePariah | LMAO |
| 19:17.57 | Rommper | are they fcking kidding? |
| 19:18.02 | Rommper | january 15? |
| 19:18.07 | woodgiraffe | Indeed |
| 19:18.09 | Tomura | I thought the same |
| 19:18.10 | Rommper | wtf |
| 19:18.14 | Triceron | so soon |
| 19:18.19 | ArcanePariah | Winning |
| 19:18.29 | Rommper | an it will be still only closed beta? |
| 19:18.31 | Rommper | wtf 2 |
| 19:18.38 | Rommper | its already a closed beta |
| 19:18.41 | ArcanePariah | Yes, probably balance stuff |
| 19:18.43 | Triceron | it's in alpha |
| 19:18.53 | Rommper | on paper yes |
| 19:18.59 | ArcanePariah | Nah its in Tech alpha, they had to redo quite a bit of engine stuff for Storm |
| 19:19.08 | Triceron | yeah |
| 19:19.26 | ArcanePariah | I went digging, the underlying engine plus new archive format = lots of things that could go wrong |
| 19:19.54 | Rommper | finaly android |
| 19:20.15 | Triceron | hearthstone expansion i guess |
| 19:20.26 | Rommper | hope there will be an anouncment of sg about warcraft 1 20 years |
| 19:21.20 | Triceron | Ahahaha this song is brilliant |
| 19:22.16 | Zolden | tell me when there's something funnier than hs |
| 19:23.44 | Triceron | heeere we go |
| 19:23.45 | Rommper | sc2 coming :D |
| 19:24.00 | woodgiraffe | FUCKY EAH |
| 19:24.03 | Triceron | TERRIBLE TERRIBLE DAMAGE |
| 19:24.14 | Triceron | whoa he got skinny |
| 19:24.54 | ArcanePariah | Yeah, and no beard? |
| 19:26.01 | Merc | I actually said out loud "he's naked!?" |
| 19:26.13 | Triceron | artanis had a green blade... |
| 19:26.19 | woodgiraffe | The SFX are really bad |
| 19:26.20 | Triceron | meaning zeratul's gonna die? |
| 19:27.51 | woodgiraffe | Standalone confirmed |
| 19:27.55 | Rommper | there go starcraft 3 :'D |
| 19:28.08 | Ahli | wowowowowow |
| 19:28.10 | Rommper | everyone dies end |
| 19:28.32 | Triceron | protoss red wedding |
| 19:28.33 | ArcanePariah | Sure, why not, good ending |
| 19:28.44 | woodgiraffe | Lurker? - Wow, really creative |
| 19:29.19 | Merc | Lurker? fuck yes |
| 19:29.26 | ArcanePariah | Thought they thought they were going skip the lurker, because it would suck so much |
| 19:29.30 | woodgiraffe | AW YEAH, There he goes |
| 19:29.48 | Triceron | they prolly saved it for this the entire time |
| 19:30.02 | Rommper | lurker vs swarm host? |
| 19:30.03 | Rommper | wut? |
| 19:30.24 | ArcanePariah | Lurker sucks at actual sieging, it is good for area control only |
| 19:30.25 | Triceron | swarm host don't burrow no more |
| 19:30.31 | Triceron | they're changing a lot. |
| 19:30.38 | Merc | lurkers would get completely stomped by marauders |
| 19:30.47 | Merc | in their bw state at least |
| 19:30.50 | Triceron | they need to break the deathballs |
| 19:30.52 | ArcanePariah | I still wonder how they will balance lurker, since stimmed rauders will kill them easily |
| 19:31.07 | ArcanePariah | Unless lurkers got some crazy ass range |
| 19:31.09 | Triceron | "We've removed the marauder" |
| 19:31.10 | woodgiraffe | Lurker + SwarmHost hurm |
| 19:31.39 | ArcanePariah | Yeah, dunno how that works, with a couple of both you can control a large area easily |
| 19:31.49 | Triceron | hmmm, warcraft remakes? Could it be? |
| 19:32.38 | Rommper | yeah i'm interested if they do that too |
| 19:33.00 | Ahli | drumrolls... |
| 19:33.23 | Triceron | oh this must be overwatch |
| 19:33.46 | Zolden | new game will be hitler penis |
| 19:34.00 | Ahli | inb4 next cheesy story from metzen |
| 19:34.00 | Rommper | wtf |
| 19:34.08 | Rommper | suddenly screen became shitty |
| 19:36.56 | woodgiraffe | Stream just died? |
| 19:37.20 | Rommper | ok its Titan |
| 19:37.27 | Rommper | or what became of Titan |
| 19:37.34 | woodgiraffe | Looks absolutely horrible |
| 19:38.36 | Rommper | its like erm |
| 19:38.46 | Rommper | animation for little kids... |
| 19:38.52 | woodgiraffe | Indeed |
| 19:39.20 | ArcanePariah | Yeah, I have no idea what I'm watching |
| 19:39.25 | Triceron | same |
| 19:39.26 | woodgiraffe | Their new WoW |
| 19:39.33 | Triceron | their wildstar? |
| 19:39.55 | Triceron | totally do not like that girl character |
| 19:40.26 | Rommper | its fail for me |
| 19:40.28 | Zolden | yea, they targeting 9 year old ppl |
| 19:40.44 | Rommper | to answer Metzen: nope |
| 19:42.00 | woodgiraffe | WHAT??? - IT'S A MP SHOOTER??? |
| 19:42.07 | woodgiraffe | I am not amused |
| 19:42.35 | Merc | thats what they need to complete their portfolio |
| 19:42.59 | Ahli | you are so far ahead it seems :S |
| 19:43.40 | ArcanePariah | So Overwatch = Blizzard Team Fortress? |
| 19:45.39 | Rommper | yeah |
| 19:45.47 | Rommper | i was thinking about tf2 too |
| 19:46.10 | *** join/#sc2mapster Bounty (45f8f26f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.248.242.111) |
| 19:46.12 | Bounty | Looks like Blizz is making their own TF2 lol |
| 19:46.24 | woodgiraffe | It looks nothing like a Blizz game tho |
| 19:46.33 | woodgiraffe | I still can't believe Blizz did this |
| 19:46.35 | Ahli | I'm thinking about brink, but that contains the same ingredients as tf2 |
| 19:46.40 | woodgiraffe | Brink was awesome |
| 19:46.53 | Triceron | yeah, this does have Brink vibes |
| 19:47.03 | Bounty | I see no problem with this game lol |
| 19:47.10 | pirate | so this game is TF2 with super powers |
| 19:47.14 | Bounty | It doesn't look like a Blizzard game because its a new IP >.< |
| 19:47.20 | Ahli | I'm in dirtybomb's closed beta, but this seems more interesting |
| 19:47.33 | woodgiraffe | The world doesn't need another mp shooter |
| 19:48.16 | ArcanePariah | That teleporting chick looks weird as fuck to play |
| 19:48.38 | ArcanePariah | First person, but can warp around |
| 19:49.02 | Merc | could do that in original UT |
| 19:49.21 | Tomura | dishonored also had some sort of teleport |
| 19:50.12 | Tomura | so it can work if it's behavior is commuicated well |
| 19:50.30 | ArcanePariah | Looks like it does, your weapons float in front of you |
| 19:50.36 | pirate | the medic has angel wings and can fly |
| 19:50.45 | Rommper | no warcraft related stuff... |
| 19:50.51 | Triceron | that makes me sad |
| 19:51.09 | Rommper | wtf blizz |
| 19:51.17 | Rommper | its warcraft 1 20y anniversary |
| 19:51.32 | Ahli | overwatch alpha invitation to me, Blizz, pls :D |
| 19:52.01 | Rommper | i'd rather get heroes of the storm |
| 19:52.35 | Bounty | I'm gonna be surprised if they have any arcade related announcements this year lol |
| 19:52.56 | Triceron | alright, time to hunt for panel streams |
| 19:53.10 | Rommper | didn't they say there will be a talking panel about arcade? |
| 19:53.17 | Triceron | no |
| 19:53.25 | Triceron | there's no mapmaking or lore panels this year |
| 19:53.37 | Vindicator | there's a 1 hour long thing at the community corner but it's not streamed |
| 19:54.55 | Rommper | "Okay so there sounds like there will be a decent group of people attending so we're going to schedule an Arcade 'mini-talk' at 2 PM till 3 PM on Friday November 7 at the Community Corner between halls B and C. The format hasn't been determined but most likely it will be focused on talking to you, the developers directly. " |
| 19:55.30 | ArcanePariah | Ok, LOTV has sweeping melee changes |
| 19:55.38 | ArcanePariah | Just read the twitter, its nuts |
| 19:55.43 | ArcanePariah | 12 starting workers |
| 19:55.44 | woodgiraffe | Twitter? |
| 19:55.50 | woodgiraffe | what? |
| 19:55.58 | ArcanePariah | http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/2llk5v/compilation_of_legacy_of_the_void_related_tweets/ |
| 19:56.16 | ArcanePariah | Warp gates got nerfed, take longer, and warping units take 2x damage |
| 19:56.23 | woodgiraffe | wait wait |
| 19:56.24 | Zolden | anything happened during last 15 minutes? i was away |
| 19:56.25 | woodgiraffe | are these confirmed? |
| 19:56.49 | ArcanePariah | Yes, these are thing people are sending from the con while playing. |
| 19:56.51 | Rommper | btw |
| 19:56.58 | woodgiraffe | 12 starting workers hmmm |
| 19:57.02 | Rommper | Lotv truly became standalone? |
| 19:57.02 | ArcanePariah | Ahli, they changed carrier again, interceptors no longer die with carrier |
| 19:57.11 | ArcanePariah | Rommper: yes |
| 19:57.18 | Ahli | Arc, I've heard |
| 19:57.29 | Bounty | Ok so nothing about the Arcade will be streamed? |
| 19:57.42 | Ahli | they only talk and Blizz takes notes, I guess |
| 19:57.59 | Ahli | like... give ideas to us for free |
| 19:58.56 | Rommper | siege tanks can be picked up by medivacs in siege mode |
| 19:58.58 | Rommper | okay... |
| 19:59.03 | woodgiraffe | Loving these changes |
| 19:59.40 | woodgiraffe | Siege mode pickup is brilliant |
| 20:00.08 | Zolden | and logical |
| 20:00.09 | Zolden | same mass |
| 20:00.17 | woodgiraffe | the warpgate change :O |
| 20:00.22 | woodgiraffe | brb, masturbating to it |
| 20:00.35 | Ahli | warpgate change? |
| 20:00.39 | Zolden | but dropping siege tanks on resources would be devastating |
| 20:00.41 | woodgiraffe | Warping takes 8 seconds now and warping units take 200% damage. Zerg has unit to break forcefields |
| 20:00.55 | woodgiraffe | Zolden: it's really no problem, medivacs die quickly enough |
| 20:01.01 | Triceron | so where you guys seeing the changes |
| 20:01.06 | woodgiraffe | http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/2llk5v/compilation_of_legacy_of_the_void_related_tweets/ |
| 20:01.27 | Ahli | oh, 8s warping and double damage |
| 20:01.35 | woodgiraffe | very nice change |
| 20:01.41 | woodgiraffe | needed since WoL |
| 20:01.59 | woodgiraffe | DAYUM showmatches! |
| 20:02.10 | ArcanePariah | Yeah, warping is now risky, so easy to kill them |
| 20:02.19 | Ahli | but warpgate tech is still always > normal gateway |
| 20:02.20 | woodgiraffe | There's a defenders-advantage again |
| 20:02.27 | Zolden | oh, there will be lotv match streamed |
| 20:02.30 | ArcanePariah | Could actually see people warp some unit, but train others |
| 20:02.54 | Ahli | they just warp in somewhere saver instead |
| 20:03.03 | ArcanePariah | Which stalls your attack |
| 20:03.04 | Triceron | is that match on the free streams? |
| 20:03.21 | woodgiraffe | Apollo needs to get ebola |
| 20:03.30 | ArcanePariah | Also, the BC change is crazy |
| 20:03.42 | woodgiraffe | I like it |
| 20:03.44 | Ahli | scan, BC.... boom |
| 20:03.50 | ArcanePariah | Apparently they can teleport/warp anywhere you ahve vision |
| 20:03.53 | woodgiraffe | BCs are really shitty |
| 20:03.55 | ArcanePariah | Yeah |
| 20:04.00 | woodgiraffe | It's fine |
| 20:04.08 | ArcanePariah | Well, with this change, you can pump out a couple and easily raid expos |
| 20:04.09 | Ahli | it's strong harass |
| 20:04.21 | ArcanePariah | scan -> BCs = dead expo |
| 20:04.24 | Merc | battlecruiser harass |
| 20:04.27 | Merc | hue hue hue |
| 20:04.30 | Ahli | :D |
| 20:04.43 | ArcanePariah | Someone with extreme micor could hit all your expos at once |
| 20:04.45 | Rommper | idk |
| 20:04.47 | woodgiraffe | Play any early push and the guy who goes BCs will lose |
| 20:04.51 | Rommper | many of these smells fishy to me |
| 20:04.59 | woodgiraffe | They are brilliant |
| 20:05.11 | ArcanePariah | Agreed, but it is more demonstrating Blizzard is willing to make sweepign changes |
| 20:05.19 | woodgiraffe | Totally |
| 20:05.21 | ArcanePariah | And most of them seem to reward micro |
| 20:05.28 | woodgiraffe | Totally |
| 20:05.37 | woodgiraffe | Corrupter getting an ability |
| 20:05.38 | ArcanePariah | liek the bcs, if you can scan/warp micro, you can attack the entire map |
| 20:05.49 | woodgiraffe | I still don't suspect anyone will build them |
| 20:05.52 | Merc | depends on the cooldown of the blink |
| 20:05.55 | woodgiraffe | That is true |
| 20:06.02 | Merc | also, quite the tech path yeah |
| 20:06.08 | woodgiraffe | But you can assume it's long enough or else it'd be completely OP |
| 20:06.17 | Merc | could be energy based too |
| 20:06.21 | woodgiraffe | One problem with BCs is that you can't escape a battle |
| 20:06.28 | Merc | which would allow a hit and run at full energy |
| 20:06.30 | woodgiraffe | Besides that they cost way too much money |
| 20:06.33 | Ahli | I imagine that it is energy or a mibute cooldown |
| 20:06.55 | woodgiraffe | Banshee stuff sounds most troubling to me |
| 20:07.00 | Merc | if it's energy based, it would allow players to dump energy before battles in case the opponent is protoss too |
| 20:07.23 | woodgiraffe | Hmmmm... 12 workers per base |
| 20:07.28 | woodgiraffe | start I mean |
| 20:07.41 | Merc | damn, day9 really needs a new suit |
| 20:07.45 | woodgiraffe | So CC gives more supply? |
| 20:07.50 | Merc | he's accumulated too much mass |
| 20:08.03 | Merc | apparently |
| 20:08.08 | woodgiraffe | Huge change with 12 workers per base but less supply per base in Void |
| 20:08.11 | woodgiraffe | Less supply per base? |
| 20:08.22 | Merc | less amount of workers per base |
| 20:08.26 | Merc | like 14 instead of 16 or something |
| 20:08.33 | woodgiraffe | i.e. less mineral-fields |
| 20:08.42 | woodgiraffe | ? |
| 20:08.57 | Triceron | wait they're not playing LOTV are they |
| 20:08.58 | Merc | Automated tournaments confirmed! |
| 20:09.03 | woodgiraffe | AW YEAH |
| 20:09.03 | Triceron | they're just playing HOTS showmatches |
| 20:09.05 | woodgiraffe | At the end |
| 20:09.55 | woodgiraffe | David Kam :) |
| 20:10.14 | woodgiraffe | David Kim now |
| 20:10.54 | Ahli | where? |
| 20:10.58 | Ahli | ah |
| 20:11.22 | Rommper | there will be lotv matches |
| 20:11.35 | woodgiraffe | "nah you start with 12 workers and it's 16 saturation per base. Minerals only hold 900 minerals and you need 6 bases by 15mins" |
| 20:11.47 | woodgiraffe | I don't believe they will leave it like this |
| 20:15.05 | Ahli | Blizz updated the schedule with overwatch |
| 20:15.57 | Zolden | what genre that overwatch is again? |
| 20:15.58 | Zolden | mmo? |
| 20:16.01 | A1win | FPS |
| 20:16.09 | A1win | TF2 clone |
| 20:16.35 | Zolden | can i sell hats there? |
| 20:16.41 | Ahli | most likely entire skins |
| 20:17.16 | Ahli | like in LoL and Heroes... But I only assume that because it can fit well |
| 20:18.57 | woodgiraffe | I pasted stuff together so far: http://hastebin.com/odumibedod.py |
| 20:19.54 | Ahli | siege tanks (siege mode) are dropped in that mode, too... carries 1 siege tank |
| 20:20.05 | woodgiraffe | Team games will be awesome |
| 20:20.12 | Ahli | like thor drop |
| 20:20.29 | ArcanePariah | Yeah, Archon mode is quite nice. Going to be cool to see the pros using it |
| 20:20.31 | woodgiraffe | Well the thing with thor drop was that thors were ridiculously OP, tanks aren't |
| 20:21.09 | Ahli | korean APM + siege tanks + medivacs |
| 20:21.19 | Ahli | + medivac speed boost |
| 20:21.37 | woodgiraffe | Actually |
| 20:21.40 | woodgiraffe | That sounds ridiculous in TvT |
| 20:21.46 | woodgiraffe | TvT will be so ridiculous |
| 20:21.50 | woodgiraffe | Banshee buff and this |
| 20:22.03 | woodgiraffe | And then the 12 worker start |
| 20:22.09 | woodgiraffe | Games will last like 5min :) |
| 20:22.13 | Ahli | I would love to see WCS just play LOTV instead of hots now |
| 20:22.33 | woodgiraffe | Well they want people to watch global finals ;) |
| 20:25.10 | Rommper | http://i.imgur.com/8fpZsdJ.png |
| 20:25.13 | Merc | pretty sure they will have exibition matches later |
| 20:25.20 | Merc | with pros playing in archon mode |
| 20:25.22 | Merc | gonna rule |
| 20:25.25 | woodgiraffe | Rommper: that is fucking awesome |
| 20:26.26 | woodgiraffe | MMA is so ded |
| 20:26.27 | ArcanePariah | ahahaha, awesome picture |
| 20:27.12 | Ahli | Metzen Entertainment |
| 20:27.50 | pirate | flying monkey brightwing is terrifying: http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2014/november/bconOpeningC013.jpg?2 |
| 20:28.44 | ArcanePariah | lmfao |
| 20:29.27 | Rommper | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/legacy-of-the-void/#characters |
| 20:29.31 | Rommper | new lotv site! |
| 20:30.52 | woodgiraffe | lol, that is what I call soundproofing |
| 20:30.59 | pirate | oh cool |
| 20:31.02 | Triceron | sweet videos |
| 20:31.03 | Ahli | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/legacy-of-the-void/#media |
| 20:32.17 | Rommper | cool |
| 20:32.22 | Rommper | don't even need to wait for panel |
| 20:32.32 | Triceron | yeah |
| 20:32.43 | pirate | AXE TEMPLARS |
| 20:32.45 | Merc | seems theyre talking about overwatch on main stage now |
| 20:32.57 | pirate | http://us.battle.net/sc2/static/images/legacy-of-the-void/media/screenshots/LotV-Screenshot-07.jpg |
| 20:33.39 | Rommper | there the new protoss guys |
| 20:35.07 | woodgiraffe | ahhhhh the videos there talk about balance changes |
| 20:35.24 | woodgiraffe | https://www.youtube.com/user/starcraft/videos |
| 20:38.47 | Ahli | immortal change, no more hardened shields, but active ability that blocks damage |
| 20:39.04 | Merc | thats cool |
| 20:39.08 | Merc | more active abilities |
| 20:39.36 | Ahli | new hydra attack impact model? it's green cloudy, more like sc1 on impact |
| 20:39.45 | Rommper | soo the guy told the truth |
| 20:39.51 | woodgiraffe | lol |
| 20:40.12 | Ahli | prism with ranged pickup, wow |
| 20:41.20 | Rommper | oh |
| 20:41.26 | Ahli | speed upgraded banshees seem to have engines with fire now |
| 20:41.53 | Rommper | disruptor is the same as that unit that copied enemy units |
| 20:41.53 | woodgiraffe | It's hard to think about LOTV changes and watch wcs |
| 20:42.38 | ArcanePariah | So much micro stuff |
| 20:42.42 | woodgiraffe | <3 <3 <3 |
| 20:43.12 | ArcanePariah | Immortal + Disruptor are going to be interesting |
| 20:43.49 | woodgiraffe | BC teleport costs energy |
| 20:45.02 | Repo | New announcement: BlizzCon 2015 - http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/blizz-con-2015/ |
| 20:45.23 | TwoDie | so sad my list with movies watched been deleted and no backups :/ |
| 20:48.14 | pirate | Repo, do we need to talk about how dates work? |
| 20:51.27 | TwoDie | sc2mapster reporter tyyyypo |
| 20:54.09 | Ahli | marines got something on their backs now in the terran video |
| 20:54.16 | woodgiraffe | Skin probably |
| 20:54.40 | woodgiraffe | They'd never change Marines |
| 20:54.53 | woodgiraffe | Ever |
| 20:56.14 | Rommper | jesus this overwatch girl has a fking annoying voice |
| 20:56.22 | Triceron | yes... |
| 20:56.25 | Triceron | i hate her laugh |
| 20:56.29 | woodgiraffe | Whole game seems annoying |
| 20:57.57 | Zolden | TwoDie u still rememebr star wars |
| 20:58.06 | Ahli | visually covered units now receive a halo like in heroes |
| 20:58.15 | Ahli | -> heroes engine = lotv? |
| 20:58.52 | woodgiraffe | Who knows |
| 20:59.02 | woodgiraffe | I'd assume they all share some common codebase |
| 21:00.01 | TwoDie | zolden my mistake file was located in sc2 folder :/ |
| 21:00.18 | TwoDie | with other planed txt files for projects |
| 21:01.48 | TwoDie | zolden plus there are a lot of other gay pron movies need to watch |
| 21:01.57 | TwoDie | i may leave it to see it last |
| 21:02.05 | TwoDie | when no more movies will come out |
| 21:02.18 | TwoDie | lol |
| 21:02.30 | TwoDie | i didnt even watched Fight Club |
| 21:02.51 | TwoDie | wow that http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/blizz-con-2015/ |
| 21:02.55 | Rommper | pff can't she stfu already |
| 21:02.57 | TwoDie | doesnt exist anymore :/ |
| 21:03.26 | TwoDie | rommper what pron you watching there |
| 21:03.30 | TwoDie | links plz |
| 21:03.33 | TwoDie | for lazy asses |
| 21:03.45 | Rommper | http://www.twitch.tv/tripleturbo161 |
| 21:06.09 | TwoDie | dead |
| 21:06.39 | Rommper | anyway i don't see any change on marine |
| 21:07.04 | Ahli | starts editor to look at marine model |
| 21:07.35 | Ahli | oh, he always had that |
| 21:08.12 | TwoDie | FFS these lags |
| 21:11.05 | Zolden | Rommper what are they talking about there |
| 21:11.11 | Zolden | yea, lags eat penis |
| 21:11.13 | Rommper | overcrap |
| 21:11.47 | TwoDie | okay so explorer just took away my 1.3gb of ram |
| 21:12.05 | woodgiraffe | Overcrap, loving it |
| 21:13.15 | *** join/#sc2mapster IskatuMesk (4645ef99@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.69.239.153) |
| 21:13.36 | IskatuMesk | hey zolden do you know which value in the xml is for the RGBA channels? |
| 21:13.46 | Ahli | marauder shoots 2 rockets at once instead of 1 |
| 21:13.52 | woodgiraffe | Where? |
| 21:14.03 | Zolden | IskatuMesk 0 or 1 |
| 21:14.17 | Zolden | cause they are first in the list inside art tools |
| 21:15.47 | TwoDie | these tits |
| 21:15.58 | woodgiraffe | Tits? Where? |
| 21:16.10 | TwoDie | http://www.twitch.tv/tripleturbo161 |
| 21:17.22 | Rommper | at least the enviroment looked cool |
| 21:17.48 | woodgiraffe | Matchmaking for the arcade would be incredible |
| 21:17.50 | TwoDie | https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/gallery/EDM42JMKC1DP1415237995908.jpg |
| 21:18.14 | TwoDie | romp what i missed? |
| 21:18.22 | TwoDie | desert and yellow? |
| 21:18.31 | TwoDie | how about jungle? |
| 21:18.38 | TwoDie | and all that greenish colors? |
| 21:18.56 | Rommper | didn't show yet new important stuffs |
| 21:18.59 | TwoDie | does there was ice snow and blackish rocks?? |
| 21:19.42 | Rommper | no |
| 21:20.13 | Zolden | overwatch visual style looks like very westernized anime |
| 21:20.23 | Zolden | like one more step and it's not anime anynore |
| 21:21.07 | IskatuMesk | no obvious indicator some channel is on or not... I figured maybe 0x1 would be off but then why are they *all* on |
| 21:21.31 | Rommper | interesting |
| 21:21.35 | TwoDie | well its look the same as other in western Drawn things |
| 21:21.36 | TwoDie | games |
| 21:22.01 | Rommper | in the beta application folder you don't need to scan your specs like in the old times |
| 21:22.07 | Zolden | IskatuMesk u don't have per cahnnel options, you only pick between rgb, rgba, r, g, b, a |
| 21:22.10 | Rommper | just check what stuff interest you |
| 21:22.23 | IskatuMesk | I can't find those inside the xml |
| 21:23.24 | Zolden | IskatuMesk cause you need to do that change, with sc2println's scrip that checks changes, to locate the byte that holds channel flag |
| 21:25.40 | TwoDie | wow this tits party |
| 21:25.46 | TwoDie | woman have faces |
| 21:25.55 | TwoDie | male have those helments |
| 21:25.59 | TwoDie | so sexist |
| 21:26.01 | Bounty | Looks like they're already trying to push Overwatch as an esport game lol |
| 21:26.02 | TwoDie | blizz plz |
| 21:27.30 | Ahli | I'm 30 minutes behind :< |
| 21:27.47 | Ahli | due to lotv page stuff |
| 21:27.57 | woodgiraffe | Behind what? |
| 21:28.06 | IskatuMesk | a big man |
| 21:28.59 | Ahli | behind live |
| 21:29.15 | Ahli | what's the correct word for that? |
| 21:29.20 | woodgiraffe | ohhh I forgot about the main stage |
| 21:29.31 | woodgiraffe | No SC stuff I assume? |
| 21:29.41 | Zolden | i'd say overwatch using sc2 graphical engine |
| 21:29.49 | Ahli | I'm currently watching overwatch tracer video |
| 21:30.08 | Zolden | and possibly other aprts of engine are from sc2 |
| 21:30.43 | TwoDie | these flashing lights |
| 21:30.48 | Zolden | well, that smart beam maybe a new shit |
| 21:30.54 | woodgiraffe | They likely share a huge codebase, talking about single engines gets moot then |
| 21:31.30 | Bounty | I hope Overwatch succeeds for the sake of Blizzard finally trying something new for them. |
| 21:31.38 | woodgiraffe | I hope it flops |
| 21:31.52 | woodgiraffe | Incredibly uninspired game |
| 21:32.07 | Bounty | Name a game that you would consider inspired |
| 21:32.33 | woodgiraffe | Any game else |
| 21:32.48 | Ahli | well, if I look at the concept, it sounds more interesting than other FPS games |
| 21:33.02 | IskatuMesk | it won't flop on behalf of the logo behind ity |
| 21:33.06 | woodgiraffe | Multiple shooters have been done to death and they only get worse and then ontop they have a ridiculously generic anime style |
| 21:33.12 | IskatuMesk | no one cares about logo |
| 21:33.13 | woodgiraffe | Multiplayer* |
| 21:33.17 | IskatuMesk | err |
| 21:33.18 | IskatuMesk | content |
| 21:33.30 | IskatuMesk | these flags are weird. time for science |
| 21:33.44 | Bounty | Every game has been done to death if you break it down to the base genre |
| 21:34.00 | IskatuMesk | nope |
| 21:34.00 | woodgiraffe | No :) genres are actually different |
| 21:34.35 | Bounty | You couldn't even name a game that you consider "inspired" to back up you saying that Overwatch is "uninspired" ffs lol |
| 21:34.41 | Bounty | Just name one |
| 21:34.49 | woodgiraffe | Brink |
| 21:34.59 | woodgiraffe | I mean Splash Damage? Come on |
| 21:35.00 | IskatuMesk | counterstrike |
| 21:35.01 | woodgiraffe | They know their shit |
| 21:35.16 | IskatuMesk | also things like this are why I'll never buy a blizzard game https://i.imgur.com/qT4CCTz.png |
| 21:35.17 | woodgiraffe | I don't know a game that is as uninspired as Overwatch |
| 21:35.28 | Bounty | How is Brink inspired? The game was horrible. |
| 21:35.42 | woodgiraffe | Wow what an argument |
| 21:35.46 | woodgiraffe | You clearly know what you're talking about |
| 21:36.13 | IskatuMesk | blizzard likes the lowest hanging fruit |
| 21:36.16 | Bounty | As do you apparently, bringing up a game that had a great idea and horrible execution. |
| 21:36.17 | IskatuMesk | easiest buck |
| 21:36.44 | Bounty | At least bring up a game that was executed as well as the idea behind it. |
| 21:36.52 | Ahli | <3 SDs shooters, but their execution mostly sucks a bit... brink is unbalanced, SMART is buggy, UI is not working fluid enough for competetive (that respawn/revive UI) |
| 21:37.04 | woodgiraffe | Brink being unbalanced sounds about right |
| 21:37.22 | Ahli | also, brinks, hold F and you loose control of your char's movement to heal another guy is stupid |
| 21:37.30 | woodgiraffe | mhhhhhhhhh not really |
| 21:37.40 | Ahli | dirtybomb improves that, but removes cool movement systems |
| 21:37.46 | IskatuMesk | have you ever healed another man ahli |
| 21:37.50 | IskatuMesk | it's a spiritual experience |
| 21:37.55 | IskatuMesk | jesus takes the wheel |
| 21:38.32 | Ahli | brink was W:ET made into console with nice graphics... =/ sucked a bit |
| 21:38.54 | Tomura | Brink really suffered from being a console game |
| 21:38.55 | woodgiraffe | No it was a serious attempt at a good Quake Wars |
| 21:39.08 | IskatuMesk | every game suffers from being a console game though |
| 21:39.12 | Tomura | yup |
| 21:39.31 | woodgiraffe | IIRC idTech was just really unstable back then |
| 21:39.32 | Ahli | sadly, I didn't play quake wars :< |
| 21:39.37 | woodgiraffe | It was pretty bad |
| 21:39.52 | woodgiraffe | Especially as a successor to W:ET |
| 21:40.01 | woodgiraffe | I mean, ET, best team game ever, period |
| 21:40.07 | Ahli | ^ true dat |
| 21:40.10 | woodgiraffe | Hard to top that |
| 21:40.13 | IskatuMesk | ET? |
| 21:40.19 | IskatuMesk | that kid's movie? :3 |
| 21:40.21 | Ahli | Wolfenstein Enemy Territory |
| 21:40.25 | IskatuMesk | ah |
| 21:40.26 | Triceron | ET was awesome |
| 21:40.27 | IskatuMesk | never heard of it |
| 21:40.33 | Triceron | I was so sad quake wars was so terrible |
| 21:40.33 | TwoDie | so nothing really planed much for sc2.. on panel i c |
| 21:40.42 | woodgiraffe | Triceron: very |
| 21:40.44 | TwoDie | some campaign shiet, and some some |
| 21:40.58 | woodgiraffe | Vehicles just didn't work |
| 21:40.59 | IskatuMesk | more metzen vomit undoubtably |
| 21:41.11 | Zolden | Ahli is that sc2 match using already that dude's ui? |
| 21:41.14 | Triceron | is thre another stream going on? |
| 21:41.21 | Triceron | I mean another panel at the same time |
| 21:41.42 | Ahli | Zolden, yes that is WCS UI |
| 21:41.46 | Ahli | from rtschutter |
| 21:41.50 | woodgiraffe | It's pretty ... |
| 21:41.52 | Ahli | that people don't like |
| 21:41.57 | woodgiraffe | It grows on me |
| 21:41.58 | IskatuMesk | why not |
| 21:42.03 | IskatuMesk | default ui was abhorrent |
| 21:42.06 | Ahli | because no supply, no idea what is in dropships |
| 21:42.10 | IskatuMesk | ahj |
| 21:42.18 | IskatuMesk | why doesn't he have dropship display |
| 21:42.19 | woodgiraffe | Mhh you can see whats in dropships if the obs press a button |
| 21:42.27 | woodgiraffe | They just hide lots of information by default |
| 21:42.40 | woodgiraffe | And obs has to willingly show it |
| 21:42.42 | IskatuMesk | oh... putting things in the hands of the obs to do is already a bad design :S |
| 21:42.50 | IskatuMesk | obs are lazy |
| 21:43.06 | IskatuMesk | gotta hold everyone's hand like it's dayschool |
| 21:43.19 | Ahli | but it seems like he fixed that problem or so.. no idea :D or observers couldn't use it, yet |
| 21:43.22 | woodgiraffe | I was skeptical first, but they seem to use it alright |
| 21:43.39 | woodgiraffe | It's more like... it's ugly |
| 21:43.40 | IskatuMesk | good thing sc2 is simple enough you generally don't need a ui to obs it |
| 21:44.03 | woodgiraffe | Actually you do, they're making it harder for one to assess the state of the game |
| 21:44.11 | woodgiraffe | Most people can't interpret those stats anyway |
| 21:44.25 | IskatuMesk | you can just blanket statement everything like "this deathball blew up that deathball and now savior destroyed everyone in 2010" |
| 21:44.28 | Ahli | but that default looking player comparison panel :X |
| 21:44.39 | woodgiraffe | comparison panel? |
| 21:44.45 | Ahli | with the bars |
| 21:44.49 | woodgiraffe | I absolute HATE the / \ |
| 21:44.56 | IskatuMesk | lol |
| 21:45.05 | woodgiraffe | It just looks so cheesy |
| 21:45.37 | woodgiraffe | The font is also very poorly chosen, there were shots with low quality streams and text often garbled up completely |
| 21:45.51 | woodgiraffe | I guess they are too transparent |
| 21:46.05 | IskatuMesk | people just need to stream from a real country is all :D |
| 21:46.50 | IskatuMesk | low quality streams will make everything a huge mess... and sc2 is already super hard to read with all the blobs and clipping |
| 21:47.02 | woodgiraffe | blobs and clipping? |
| 21:47.14 | IskatuMesk | the units are bulbous and their collision tends to be smaller than their meshes |
| 21:47.23 | IskatuMesk | big armies turn into a sea of motion |
| 21:47.30 | woodgiraffe | it's actually the other way around? |
| 21:47.38 | IskatuMesk | not when I played |
| 21:47.42 | woodgiraffe | most of them have a bigger seperation radius then their modelsize |
| 21:47.43 | IskatuMesk | I had to raise all of their collision |
| 21:47.48 | IskatuMesk | siege tanks in particular |
| 21:47.50 | IskatuMesk | and marines |
| 21:48.14 | woodgiraffe | I don't know :) I have never heard players complain about that who play 10h a day |
| 21:48.26 | IskatuMesk | well if I played 10h a day I'd probably be used to it |
| 21:48.32 | IskatuMesk | but I couldn't stomach gameplay beyond beta |
| 21:48.52 | woodgiraffe | Then it doesn't sound to be a game for you to begin with ;) |
| 21:48.56 | IskatuMesk | indeed |
| 21:49.01 | IskatuMesk | I am much more of a brood war person |
| 21:49.05 | IskatuMesk | hopefully my changes bring that back |
| 21:49.25 | woodgiraffe | Brood War, I don't know :) |
| 21:49.47 | IskatuMesk | brood war was a pinnacle I doubt any rts will ever manage to enter the shadow of |
| 21:49.57 | IskatuMesk | most I can do is sort of make a spoof of it |
| 21:50.20 | IskatuMesk | at least all my experience in modding it can help design-wise with that, so I know the steps I can take with sc2 to bring it under control |
| 21:50.21 | woodgiraffe | SC2 is clearly better for esport then BW |
| 21:50.29 | IskatuMesk | nah |
| 21:50.38 | woodgiraffe | BW is really not that balanced and extremely messy |
| 21:50.40 | IskatuMesk | the very fact sc2 is 3d eliminates it from being a competitor with bw |
| 21:50.45 | IskatuMesk | bw is not... balanced. wat |
| 21:51.02 | woodgiraffe | Why would it? They hadn't touched it for years |
| 21:51.04 | IskatuMesk | I watched professional bw for like 6 years |
| 21:51.08 | IskatuMesk | they never needed to |
| 21:51.15 | IskatuMesk | the fact they never touched it shows they were confident with it |
| 21:51.31 | IskatuMesk | that is something virtually no rts team can say since then |
| 21:51.33 | woodgiraffe | The game was released in a completely messy state, they'd never anticipated for it to become an esport |
| 21:51.42 | IskatuMesk | yeah, it was released in a messy state |
| 21:51.45 | IskatuMesk | then it was polished up |
| 21:51.50 | woodgiraffe | Well, but never for esports |
| 21:51.54 | IskatuMesk | people make games esports, not companies |
| 21:52.02 | Triceron | But it still is, and is considered balanced by many pros |
| 21:52.12 | IskatuMesk | blizzard can throw money at sc2 all they want, and it will still never be a competitor in the eyes of the people |
| 21:52.25 | woodgiraffe | Werent protoss like seriously underpowered? |
| 21:52.31 | IskatuMesk | ... no? |
| 21:52.35 | woodgiraffe | Who still watches BroodWar? |
| 21:52.40 | IskatuMesk | quite a few? |
| 21:52.41 | woodgiraffe | The people seem to not care that much about it |
| 21:52.47 | IskatuMesk | I believe there are still chinese tournaments |
| 21:52.49 | woodgiraffe | Well compared to SC2 |
| 21:52.57 | IskatuMesk | since blizzard did their best to kill brood war it certainly suffered in koreas |
| 21:53.02 | woodgiraffe | The people seem to prefer watching SC2 :) |
| 21:53.09 | IskatuMesk | but there are still players and spectators |
| 21:53.12 | Triceron | Brood War is still alive and kicking |
| 21:53.15 | IskatuMesk | actually, most people have moved on |
| 21:53.21 | Triceron | just because you don't know about it does't mean people aren't watching :/ |
| 21:53.33 | IskatuMesk | league or dota 2 ended up sucking up a huge amount of the playerbase |
| 21:53.37 | woodgiraffe | I'm not denying that, but arguing that BW is more popular then SC2? - Doesn't take long to realize that is certainly not the case |
| 21:53.48 | IskatuMesk | nah, bw is not more popular, blizzard made sure of that |
| 21:53.53 | IskatuMesk | they essentially put a bullet to its mecca |
| 21:53.57 | IskatuMesk | but it's still alive |
| 21:54.15 | IskatuMesk | and it will certainly outlive sc2 |
| 21:54.17 | woodgiraffe | Sure, I love BW |
| 21:54.51 | woodgiraffe | May be so, may not be so, who knows :) |
| 21:55.04 | Triceron | SC2 is more relevant, is what I'd say. |
| 21:55.08 | IskatuMesk | bw is sort of like cs 1.6 |
| 21:55.09 | woodgiraffe | It's a better game :) |
| 21:55.13 | IskatuMesk | sc2 is where the money is at |
| 21:55.14 | Triceron | popularity is subjective, in a way |
| 21:55.17 | IskatuMesk | only reason it has any scene |
| 21:55.26 | IskatuMesk | people go where money is |
| 21:55.31 | Triceron | it's not like liking SC2 means you don't like BW or vice versa |
| 21:55.39 | woodgiraffe | Absolutely right |
| 21:55.41 | IskatuMesk | think wc3 |
| 21:55.52 | woodgiraffe | Sure but money is where people are watching |
| 21:55.59 | IskatuMesk | wc3 was a game that was super imbalanced as well |
| 21:56.01 | Triceron | yeah but SC2 isn't really that popular either |
| 21:56.05 | Triceron | when you compare it to most other Esports |
| 21:56.14 | Triceron | MOBAs are the big thing right now |
| 21:56.26 | woodgiraffe | Sure |
| 21:57.01 | IskatuMesk | if a real rts showed up to compete by a competent developer I am sure it would immediately crush sc2 |
| 21:57.05 | IskatuMesk | but that is not likely to happen |
| 21:57.17 | woodgiraffe | You won't get much better then SC2 :) |
| 21:57.19 | IskatuMesk | no one even wants to bother |
| 21:57.24 | IskatuMesk | not in the west, at least |
| 21:57.26 | Ahli | *than ;D |
| 21:57.32 | woodgiraffe | If it'd been easy someone would've done it already |
| 21:57.36 | woodgiraffe | Ahli: happens :) |
| 21:57.46 | IskatuMesk | it would be pretty easy, but everyone prefers easiest possible |
| 21:57.54 | woodgiraffe | I was very much into DoW2 but then publisher dilemma |
| 21:57.56 | ArcanePariah | IskatuMesk: define competent? |
| 21:58.07 | Triceron | DoW2 suffered many problems |
| 21:58.10 | IskatuMesk | capable of doing decent graphics and capable of understanding gameplay design |
| 21:58.16 | Triceron | surprisingly. CoH is still popular and being played a lot |
| 21:58.20 | Triceron | not an esport tho |
| 21:58.23 | ArcanePariah | Ok... define decent graphics? |
| 21:58.32 | Triceron | CoH2 that is |
| 21:58.34 | woodgiraffe | DoW2 is better then CoH, the problem is they left it in a worse state |
| 21:58.34 | IskatuMesk | anything that isn't based on blizzard's """"style"""" |
| 21:58.45 | IskatuMesk | aka isn't a washed out mess |
| 21:58.50 | woodgiraffe | Because of the sellout and it's now stuck on some ridiculously stupid patch :) |
| 21:58.51 | Triceron | DoW2 was not really better. It was different |
| 21:58.55 | Triceron | it wasn't really much of an RTS tbh |
| 21:58.56 | IskatuMesk | and actually reflects semi-modern understanding of technology |
| 21:58.57 | woodgiraffe | I say it was clearly better :) |
| 21:59.03 | ArcanePariah | So, under your definition, all of Blizzard graphics are bad, and everyone else is decent? |
| 21:59.18 | IskatuMesk | most of the people who have attempted objectively distinct art styles have done well |
| 21:59.21 | Triceron | it was like action RPG with strategy elements |
| 21:59.26 | IskatuMesk | and yes, blizzard has completely destroyed graphics |
| 21:59.30 | woodgiraffe | Not MP |
| 21:59.41 | Triceron | I didn't know anyone who played DoW2 multi |
| 21:59.44 | woodgiraffe | MP was very similar to DoW1 |
| 21:59.51 | woodgiraffe | Well I did, excessively :) |
| 21:59.53 | ArcanePariah | Ermm... or maybe Blizzard realizes graphics is not the come all end all? Crysis had great graphics... |
| 22:00.01 | Triceron | last stand was the most exposure I had to multi |
| 22:00.02 | IskatuMesk | crysis had meh graphics |
| 22:00.02 | woodgiraffe | There's still an active userbase, but much less so then CoH |
| 22:00.04 | Rommper | blizzard destrpyed graphics? wutt? |
| 22:00.06 | ArcanePariah | For those who could run the game... |
| 22:00.16 | IskatuMesk | blizzard realizes they are too incompetent to do real graphics |
| 22:00.28 | IskatuMesk | given they have a game like d3 that doesn't even have normal maps and still has serious performance issues |
| 22:00.34 | woodgiraffe | IskatuMesk: your world-view is very simplistic, reality isn't that comfortable |
| 22:00.38 | ArcanePariah | Define real, and define something that is cost effective when you are paying an artist 50K+ a year |
| 22:00.47 | IskatuMesk | real = dow2 |
| 22:00.48 | IskatuMesk | coh |
| 22:00.50 | Triceron | blizz won't compromise a large chunk of the low-end userbase for crazy graphics |
| 22:00.52 | Triceron | and it's smart |
| 22:00.57 | IskatuMesk | not spectacular, but visually impressive and readable |
| 22:01.07 | Triceron | I was looking forward to Evolve |
| 22:01.07 | ArcanePariah | The simple reality is Blizzard MUST pay its people 60k a year, that's the reality of where they are (where I live) |
| 22:01.12 | Triceron | till I played the alpha and can barely run it |
| 22:01.12 | IskatuMesk | and not this https://i.imgur.com/qT4CCTz.png |
| 22:01.17 | IskatuMesk | blizzard should get better people |
| 22:01.40 | woodgiraffe | What are you even comparing |
| 22:01.42 | IskatuMesk | hiring tons of no-skilled interns and washing over work = bad |
| 22:01.43 | ArcanePariah | And Triceron is right, you an have crysis graphics and have no one play, or WoW graphics and everyone can play |
| 22:01.54 | woodgiraffe | DoW2 wasn't designed to be an esports game |
| 22:01.54 | IskatuMesk | evolve is a fucking disaster |
| 22:01.58 | woodgiraffe | They sold great presentation |
| 22:02.06 | IskatuMesk | I hear it doesn't even have team queuing working |
| 22:02.10 | woodgiraffe | But you needed pretty darn good GPU for those games |
| 22:02.10 | ArcanePariah | People simply will not pay for dedicated gpus much, more people use old ass gpus or integrated |
| 22:02.11 | IskatuMesk | the fact they released without that is hilarious |
| 22:02.15 | IskatuMesk | no surprise it has other issues |
| 22:02.18 | Triceron | DoW2 wasn't designed to be much of an RTS tbh |
| 22:02.22 | woodgiraffe | It was :) |
| 22:02.25 | Triceron | they should've stuck to DoW1 with improvements. |
| 22:02.26 | woodgiraffe | MP was serious |
| 22:02.26 | IskatuMesk | and you can do amazing good graphics on low-end hardware |
| 22:02.30 | Zolden | yea, graphics isn't the first thing that defines quality of the game |
| 22:02.30 | IskatuMesk | no one does because they are lazy |
| 22:02.34 | woodgiraffe | And they patched it and tried to take care of it like Blizz does with its IPs |
| 22:02.45 | Triceron | yeah but who played DoW2? |
| 22:02.47 | IskatuMesk | graphics are equally as important as other elements because they are an interactive element and represent the gameplay |
| 22:02.49 | woodgiraffe | Really a lot of people |
| 22:02.50 | Triceron | a very small community |
| 22:02.55 | Zolden | modern games look like their creators think that graphics is the only thing that makes the game good |
| 22:02.58 | woodgiraffe | No, it was decently sized back then |
| 22:02.59 | IskatuMesk | bw wouldn't be what it was without its graphics |
| 22:03.01 | woodgiraffe | Who plays CoH2 now? |
| 22:03.03 | Triceron | back then is what? |
| 22:03.06 | ArcanePariah | IskatuMesk: its the 80/20 rule, so yes, you do NOT spend a ton of time optimizng awesome graphics for low end hardware |
| 22:03.06 | Triceron | when it came out? |
| 22:03.08 | woodgiraffe | They had two Addons |
| 22:03.13 | IskatuMesk | and no one can claim blizzard does good gameplay, so graphics is where the contention would be at |
| 22:03.17 | Triceron | Check steam |
| 22:03.19 | woodgiraffe | On every addon release the userbase spiked, like it always does |
| 22:03.21 | Triceron | CoH2 is still played |
| 22:03.36 | woodgiraffe | Yes, DoW2 had definitely a compareable userbase, if not even bigger |
| 22:03.39 | woodgiraffe | Would be my assumption |
| 22:03.59 | ArcanePariah | Then Blizzard is doign the right thing IskatuMesk, they are doing 70% effort for everything, which is way better then 100% in one or 2 departments at the expense of others |
| 22:04.00 | IskatuMesk | arcanepariah what happened to "it's done when it's done"? |
| 22:04.10 | woodgiraffe | Relic released new maps continously, there were some tournaments, they balanced it continously |
| 22:04.23 | IskatuMesk | 90% of the graphics issues in sc2 would be caught with a single playtest on behalf of the so-called developer adding them |
| 22:04.27 | woodgiraffe | It was certainly meant to be played competitively |
| 22:04.35 | Triceron | COH2 has 6500 players today, and is ~25th top games played on steam today |
| 22:04.41 | Zolden | there's no reasons to care about blizzard decisions, there's unity, any one can hire a couple of artists and create a nice game of his own vision |
| 22:04.46 | Rommper | IskatuMesk |
| 22:04.50 | IskatuMesk | yep |
| 22:05.04 | Rommper | when do you have your camera zoomed that close to the unit like that pic? |
| 22:05.12 | Triceron | CoH is outplaying Shadow of Mordor |
| 22:05.13 | IskatuMesk | when I fixing their garbage |
| 22:05.17 | Tomura | lol Zolden already taking the opportunity to advertize for unity |
| 22:05.29 | IskatuMesk | that model is ugly as hell at any zoom |
| 22:05.31 | *** join/#sc2mapster ArcanePariah (80c8bee5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.200.190.229) |
| 22:05.34 | woodgiraffe | Triceron: your point was that it wasn't meant to be a competitive RTS and it absolutely was |
| 22:05.43 | Triceron | I didn't say that |
| 22:05.47 | woodgiraffe | Then I misread |
| 22:05.49 | Zolden | he-he |
| 22:06.01 | woodgiraffe | You said it wasn't designed to be much of a RTS |
| 22:06.03 | IskatuMesk | fixing two of the major problems there was literally a half-minute job |
| 22:06.07 | IskatuMesk | lazy |
| 22:06.14 | woodgiraffe | It clearly is |
| 22:06.18 | woodgiraffe | That is all :) |
| 22:06.51 | woodgiraffe | The problem with SC2 requirements is that it requires such a strong CPU, I don't think the low GPU requirement matters much |
| 22:06.59 | IskatuMesk | it's like in wow where wotlk was released and the starter draenei mount had an entire geoset missing and none of their alleged testers ever saw it |
| 22:07.12 | ArcanePariah | Yes, well, all RTS require good cpu, pathing demands it |
| 22:07.16 | woodgiraffe | Nonono |
| 22:07.18 | Triceron | If you compared it to DoW1 |
| 22:07.20 | woodgiraffe | There are giant differences |
| 22:07.25 | Triceron | DoW2 is much less of a conventional RTS |
| 22:07.27 | woodgiraffe | Compare SC2 to CoH |
| 22:07.33 | ArcanePariah | Since pathing is a fundamentally hard problem |
| 22:07.34 | Triceron | it's more of a RPG with Strategy elements |
| 22:07.34 | IskatuMesk | blizzard is known to be bad at programming |
| 22:07.39 | Zolden | lol |
| 22:07.43 | IskatuMesk | undoubtably a good chunk of cpu is waste |
| 22:07.48 | Triceron | half of the game was managing compositions rather than building units |
| 22:08.01 | IskatuMesk | DoW2 is a tactical strategy |
| 22:08.05 | IskatuMesk | not an RTS |
| 22:08.09 | Zolden | blizzard is known to be good at attracting lots of blaming from fans |
| 22:08.11 | Triceron | yes, i would call it that more |
| 22:08.14 | woodgiraffe | Triceron: what RPG elements are in MP? Except having a hero, and units leveling up, heros could not chose abilities when leveling up. |
| 22:08.28 | woodgiraffe | It wasn't traditional |
| 22:08.35 | Triceron | yes, like Warcraft 3. Except with even less focus on unit building. |
| 22:08.41 | woodgiraffe | What? |
| 22:08.43 | IskatuMesk | basically wc3 |
| 22:08.50 | IskatuMesk | just more casual |
| 22:09.04 | woodgiraffe | Less focus on unit building? You only build units |
| 22:09.09 | ArcanePariah | IskatuMesk, in your opinion then, is blizzard competent at anything? Because you leave the impression blizzard does everything wrong... |
| 22:09.10 | woodgiraffe | That is the only thing you are building :) |
| 22:09.18 | IskatuMesk | blizzard is very good at marketing |
| 22:09.21 | Triceron | How big are your armies in DoW2? |
| 22:09.25 | IskatuMesk | they know how to play the emotions of casuals |
| 22:09.27 | woodgiraffe | That is a different argument |
| 22:09.30 | Triceron | you don't get a lot of squads. It's way less than DoW1 |
| 22:09.35 | woodgiraffe | That is true |
| 22:09.40 | woodgiraffe | But it is all about what units you build |
| 22:09.42 | IskatuMesk | they can produce untested generic garbage and make millions, they are definitely doing something right |
| 22:09.43 | woodgiraffe | Mostly |
| 22:09.46 | ArcanePariah | DOWII let you spam certain units that usually could a move. |
| 22:09.46 | Triceron | and remember, RTS was built on games like Command and Conquer, Total Annhilation, etc. |
| 22:09.58 | woodgiraffe | No :) |
| 22:09.58 | Triceron | lots of units is what RTS is known for generally |
| 22:10.09 | woodgiraffe | DoW2 had unforgiving counters, and it was pretty random on that part |
| 22:10.09 | Triceron | if you have few units it's more of a tactical strategy |
| 22:10.28 | woodgiraffe | I really don't care for these explicit genre definition arguments :) |
| 22:10.35 | ArcanePariah | IskatuMesk: well apprently it works, because Blizzard may not get it rigth the first, second or third or even 4th time, but they are persistent. |
| 22:10.44 | Triceron | yes, but that's what you picked out of what I said, wasn't it? |
| 22:10.49 | woodgiraffe | To me, DoW2 is clearly an RTS |
| 22:10.55 | IskatuMesk | marketing is all you need to succeed |
| 22:10.57 | IskatuMesk | and yes, it works |
| 22:11.07 | Triceron | right, and L4D is an FPS. I wouldn't compare it to Call of Duty or Halo tho. |
| 22:11.09 | ArcanePariah | Yes, marketing is necessary. |
| 22:11.11 | IskatuMesk | I hate it with all my hearts, but it works, and you can't deny results |
| 22:11.32 | ArcanePariah | So you more favor something that is ideal, but not something people actually want |
| 22:11.36 | IskatuMesk | that's why you can keep re-releasing cod and season passes long before it's out and not get thrown out |
| 22:11.47 | Ahli | sc2 stream, crazy game ending |
| 22:11.48 | IskatuMesk | I am in favor for something that is objectively good and had effort put into it |
| 22:11.53 | IskatuMesk | I know, that makes me a black sheep |
| 22:12.06 | Triceron | when are they showing LOTV showmatch? End of the day? |
| 22:12.08 | woodgiraffe | Triceron: how about this, Wiki defines DoW2 as an RTS |
| 22:12.13 | ArcanePariah | What good is a great product you never or can't sell? |
| 22:12.15 | woodgiraffe | Do you accept that? :) |
| 22:12.17 | Triceron | I didn't say it wasn't |
| 22:12.22 | Triceron | I said it wasn't much of an RTS. |
| 22:12.24 | IskatuMesk | in my eyes, the very concept of capitalism is abhorrent |
| 22:12.30 | IskatuMesk | I don' |
| 22:12.32 | woodgiraffe | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:12.33 | IskatuMesk | don't care about selling |
| 22:12.40 | Triceron | yes, and that's what I said |
| 22:12.41 | ArcanePariah | Welp... like democracy, it sucks... but it is better then anything else we've tried |
| 22:12.45 | IskatuMesk | that's why I refuse all of the company comission offers and donations |
| 22:12.46 | woodgiraffe | Triceron: I see |
| 22:12.55 | IskatuMesk | I refuse to be monetarily involved in what I do |
| 22:13.01 | IskatuMesk | even though it's not the "right" decision |
| 22:13.02 | woodgiraffe | Triceron: well, it is enough of an RTS for people to label it as an RTS on wikipedia |
| 22:13.15 | Triceron | I didn't say it wasn't RTS. I said it was more focused on RPG aspects; ie Tactical Strategy. |
| 22:13.22 | woodgiraffe | Again, only SP |
| 22:13.25 | Triceron | more on unit composition |
| 22:13.25 | woodgiraffe | None of that was in MP :) |
| 22:13.29 | ArcanePariah | Welp, then I assume you accept that you can not really participate in society, because it is based on me having something that you need and vice versa and exchanging stuff? |
| 22:13.34 | Triceron | yeah but RTS generally means lots of units |
| 22:13.36 | woodgiraffe | Oh god MMA won |
| 22:13.38 | Ahli | k, back to main stage for lotv |
| 22:13.38 | IskatuMesk | I despise society for many reasons |
| 22:13.52 | IskatuMesk | and I wouldn't participate in it regardless |
| 22:14.32 | ArcanePariah | Well sadly, humans are meant to be social creatures who use our one better organ (brain) to bypass all the phyisical limits of our bodies |
| 22:14.41 | IskatuMesk | I don't believe the former statement at all |
| 22:14.49 | IskatuMesk | socializing is for nerds anyway |
| 22:15.04 | Triceron | socializing is for nerds? Wait, nerds are social? |
| 22:15.08 | ArcanePariah | Well, indiviudally, a homo sapien is a terrible animal, crappy physical features all around |
| 22:15.10 | IskatuMesk | yes. |
| 22:15.10 | woodgiraffe | Triceron: thing is I don't disagree, it was an unconventional RTS, but still was enough of an RTS to make it an RTS :) |
| 22:15.24 | Triceron | of course. |
| 22:15.29 | ArcanePariah | If we don't cooperate, we are easy prey for nearly all predators |
| 22:15.29 | woodgiraffe | Well then we agree :) |
| 22:15.30 | Triceron | but that was also a downside. |
| 22:15.38 | Triceron | it's the same reason why Warcraft 3 was not crazy popular. |
| 22:15.46 | Triceron | unconventional RTS. |
| 22:15.48 | IskatuMesk | humans are their own predators |
| 22:15.49 | woodgiraffe | I don't think so, it was praised for its balls and I think it worked well enough to have a future |
| 22:15.56 | woodgiraffe | IMHO WC3 was just a stinky game |
| 22:16.00 | woodgiraffe | :) |
| 22:16.01 | Triceron | praise does not equate popularity tho |
| 22:16.17 | woodgiraffe | Not necessarily, sure |
| 22:16.24 | Triceron | critics can praise all sorts of games that will never be played |
| 22:16.39 | Triceron | Shadow of Mordor is critically praised. Doesn't help that it's not selling crazy amounts :/ |
| 22:16.42 | woodgiraffe | It's not just critics, I played the game for a very long time, I know that it's a good game :) |
| 22:16.44 | Ahli | oh damned, I was looking at tomorrow's schedule >_> |
| 22:16.48 | Triceron | they even had to drop the price this week |
| 22:16.55 | woodgiraffe | Sucks for Monolith |
| 22:17.08 | IskatuMesk | well 64 CAD is kind of 64 too much |
| 22:17.11 | Triceron | But it's critically praised, right? |
| 22:17.13 | woodgiraffe | Or Warner Bros I should say? |
| 22:17.48 | Triceron | I didn't say DoW2 is bad. I'm saying it wasn't popular. |
| 22:17.50 | woodgiraffe | Your point was: unconvetional is a downside, and it's really not, even Blizz felt compelled to mix things up in WC3 |
| 22:18.01 | woodgiraffe | And WC3 certainly was popular |
| 22:18.06 | woodgiraffe | I think its the worst RTS they did |
| 22:18.07 | Triceron | for different reasons |
| 22:18.21 | IskatuMesk | wc3 had the momentum of d2 and bw behind it |
| 22:18.23 | woodgiraffe | DoW2 wasn't that popular, I don't disagree |
| 22:18.26 | Triceron | DoW2 was terribly marketted, and was published by THQ |
| 22:18.27 | IskatuMesk | there was no way it could fail |
| 22:18.27 | woodgiraffe | Totally |
| 22:18.33 | woodgiraffe | I don't disagree :) |
| 22:18.35 | Triceron | THQ really doesn't know how to manage publicity |
| 22:18.42 | IskatuMesk | THQ was atrocious |
| 22:18.44 | Triceron | that's why they went down |
| 22:18.56 | Triceron | who spends all their money on kiddy tablets? |
| 22:19.01 | Triceron | for the wii |
| 22:19.08 | IskatuMesk | who releases pit fighter and home alone |
| 22:19.21 | woodgiraffe | But the reasons why DoW2 was different, in parts, actually made it a very good, different game. It was unconventional and that wasn't its downside, it was its upside. |
| 22:19.30 | woodgiraffe | I mean why even try to compete with Blizz head-on-head about RTS |
| 22:19.36 | woodgiraffe | They will always have the most popularity |
| 22:19.40 | woodgiraffe | No matter what they do |
| 22:19.45 | IskatuMesk | yep |
| 22:19.50 | Triceron | yeah but the only people who knew what DoW2 was were DoW or Warhammer enthusiasts |
| 22:19.54 | IskatuMesk | I didn't like dow2 but it had nuggets |
| 22:20.14 | woodgiraffe | That is why it was actually very genius, they catere towards RTS veterans who wanted something different AND the decently sized Warhammer community :) |
| 22:20.15 | IskatuMesk | I think being more warhammer oriented in terms of scale would have done well for it |
| 22:20.30 | IskatuMesk | brb |
| 22:20.41 | woodgiraffe | THQs death was just really a dilemma |
| 22:20.44 | woodgiraffe | DoW was doing well enough |
| 22:20.52 | woodgiraffe | I mean they did Space Marine later on |
| 22:20.52 | Triceron | DoW was great |
| 22:20.58 | woodgiraffe | It definitely earned them money |
| 22:21.02 | Triceron | that was actually a decently mainstream title |
| 22:21.10 | woodgiraffe | THQ died because of its loads of shitty brands and they took Relic with it |
| 22:21.19 | Triceron | everyone saw the cinematic for that |
| 22:21.29 | woodgiraffe | Space Marine? |
| 22:21.31 | Triceron | DoW |
| 22:21.38 | Triceron | Space Marine was terribly marketted too. |
| 22:21.45 | IskatuMesk | space marine was such a bad game... |
| 22:21.49 | woodgiraffe | I loved it :) |
| 22:21.56 | woodgiraffe | My point is: they made enough money |
| 22:22.00 | woodgiraffe | Space Marine, I don't know |
| 22:22.02 | woodgiraffe | DoW2 definitely was profitable |
| 22:22.06 | woodgiraffe | Enough |
| 22:22.12 | woodgiraffe | Again, that was not the reason why THQ collapsed |
| 22:22.31 | Triceron | THQ collapsed on its other IPs |
| 22:22.38 | woodgiraffe | Right |
| 22:22.44 | Triceron | but because of that it mismanaged their good ones, like Saints Row and DoW/CoH |
| 22:23.22 | woodgiraffe | DoW/CoH were in good states until they went bankrupt and then the game was unable to be touched anymore |
| 22:23.48 | Triceron | why they ever decided to go with Gamespy for DoW though |
| 22:23.55 | woodgiraffe | Their balance strategy was to seriously buff whatever was underpowered |
| 22:23.58 | IskatuMesk | why would anyone use gamespy |
| 22:24.02 | woodgiraffe | Very much unlike Blizzard |
| 22:24.05 | IskatuMesk | I ask that question every time I wake up |
| 22:24.17 | woodgiraffe | Problem is now it remains in a state where one thing is just way too strong :) |
| 22:24.18 | IskatuMesk | it haunts me |
| 22:24.56 | woodgiraffe | Those were other days I reckon |
| 22:25.39 | Ahli | blizz making more layouts for dungeons i adventure mode... finally more random dungeons... |
| 22:26.06 | woodgiraffe | dungeons i? :) |
| 22:26.11 | Ahli | in |
| 22:26.16 | woodgiraffe | Ahh |
| 22:26.24 | Triceron | where you seein this Ahli? |
| 22:26.24 | Triceron | Warcraft panel is on right now? |
| 22:26.29 | Ahli | panel stream |
| 22:26.31 | woodgiraffe | New D3 addon? :) |
| 22:26.41 | Ahli | no, 2.1.2 |
| 22:26.46 | woodgiraffe | Thank god |
| 22:27.53 | Ahli | treasure goblins split into -> normal one, gem one, blood shard one, plan one, materials one |
| 22:28.06 | Ahli | more legendary gems |
| 22:30.28 | IskatuMesk | were they going to do anything with those remastered warcraft models? |
| 22:31.10 | Ahli | nothing told about that so far, afaIk |
| 22:31.47 | IskatuMesk | hmm... maybe I will make my second apex developer video |
| 22:38.06 | Triceron | I doubt we'll hear about those models this year |
| 22:38.28 | ZeFrenchAccent | Ahli, are you excited about the new stuff? |
| 22:40.00 | ArcanePariah | 50 million gold streak. lol, that is going to be interesting |
| 22:40.24 | ArcanePariah | Going to need Boon of Hoarder, Avarice and run through an entire act with max GF |
| 22:40.35 | Ahli | just go away |
| 22:41.03 | Zolden | oh, he will definitely follow your advice Ahli |
| 22:41.22 | *** part/#sc2mapster Ahli (~asdaaaaa@2a02:908:fd53:5f00:d8ca:2a8f:250b:83b) |
| 22:41.53 | *** join/#sc2mapster Ahli (~asdaaaaa@2a02:908:fd53:5f00:d8ca:2a8f:250b:83b) |
| 22:43.51 | IskatuMesk | why are the numbers so high in d3 |
| 22:44.19 | IskatuMesk | they'll just have to ilevel crunch it like wow :3 |
| 22:44.24 | ZeFrenchAccent | Ahli, nono, today I'm a good girl. |
| 22:44.26 | ZeFrenchAccent | No grammar shit |
| 22:44.40 | ZeFrenchAccent | Enjoy it, for tomorrow, I will wreck havoc once more. |
| 22:44.48 | IskatuMesk | are you hot |
| 22:45.49 | IskatuMesk | btw, for anyone interested (no one?) I am going to post some information on CC related to our campaign AI research |
| 22:46.01 | ZeFrenchAccent | IskatuMesk, much hotter than Ahli. |
| 22:46.06 | ArcanePariah | CC? |
| 22:46.13 | ZeFrenchAccent | Though I can't hope to ever wear Lederhosen as well as he though. |
| 22:47.13 | IskatuMesk | campaign creations |
| 22:47.22 | IskatuMesk | damn youngins |
| 22:47.27 | Ahli | "instead of giving you videos, blablabla, show flow and try it out yourself" lazy you are :S |
| 22:48.01 | woodgiraffe | High numbers are awesome |
| 22:48.14 | IskatuMesk | why |
| 22:48.30 | IskatuMesk | there is no advantage to having 50kkk instead of 50 :\ |
| 22:48.33 | woodgiraffe | They are huuuuuuuuuuuuuge, I mean look at this: 99098419482398123120312389 <= SO BIG |
| 22:49.00 | IskatuMesk | I guess I am not enough of a patriot to understand' |
| 22:49.09 | woodgiraffe | Damn right ;) |
| 22:51.30 | woodgiraffe | When will be the LOTV showmatch? |
| 22:51.56 | woodgiraffe | I love how LOTV is essentially one big protoss nerf |
| 22:56.00 | Vindicator | thunderlord, ur at the event ya? |
| 23:01.06 | Ahli | chest hair is strong with mosqueira |
| 23:02.48 | pirate | https://twitter.com/StarCraft/status/530837582381187072 |
| 23:04.49 | Zolden | pirate oh, i'm coming |
| 23:05.04 | Zolden | oh, wait, it's 20k kilometers |
| 23:05.11 | pirate | run zolden, run |
| 23:05.29 | Zolden | through the ground it's only 12k |
| 23:05.31 | Ahli | it seems I have misplaced my teleporting device |
| 23:05.38 | Zolden | where's my sand worm |
| 23:05.59 | Ahli | he is in broodwar |
| 23:06.10 | Ahli | in desert tileset as a doodad |
| 23:06.37 | woodgiraffe | Desert tileset, miss that |
| 23:06.51 | Zolden | don't think it will work, i only have pirated version of broodwar, blizzard hq has a force field against pirated stuff |
| 23:07.12 | Zolden | woodgiraffe there's desert in both wol and hots |
| 23:07.21 | woodgiraffe | It's not that desert tho |
| 23:07.34 | woodgiraffe | desertish |
| 23:07.51 | FinestLederhosen | Ahli, don't ignore me, I seek to atone for my crimes. |
| 23:08.22 | woodgiraffe | Crimes? |
| 23:11.10 | FinestLederhosen | woodgiraffe, yeah |
| 23:11.24 | FinestLederhosen | Soemthing about annoying him ad nauseam about some grammatical mistake he once made. |
| 23:13.19 | *** join/#sc2mapster Bounty (45f8f26f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.248.242.111) |
| 23:16.20 | woodgiraffe | Ad noseium? |
| 23:16.57 | woodgiraffe | Who cares about grammar? |
| 23:18.32 | FinestLederhosen | I do |
| 23:18.41 | FinestLederhosen | I am the greatest grammar Nazi that has ever lived. |
| 23:18.58 | woodgiraffe | Well, good for you I guess? |
| 23:19.10 | woodgiraffe | Oh god |
| 23:19.24 | woodgiraffe | Middle in the game, Server stopped responding |
| 23:19.32 | Zolden | LOL |
| 23:19.37 | woodgiraffe | It's back |
| 23:19.44 | woodgiraffe | Oh god |
| 23:19.46 | woodgiraffe | again |
| 23:19.46 | Zolden | bnet fucks with korean players on blizzcon |
| 23:19.55 | woodgiraffe | Oh lol |
| 23:19.58 | woodgiraffe | I've never seen this again |
| 23:20.03 | woodgiraffe | Like a speedhack :) |
| 23:20.21 | woodgiraffe | Froze then sped up to 10x gamespeed or something :) |
| 23:20.29 | Zolden | yea |
| 23:20.43 | Zolden | what if one of those koreans click "surrender" accidently? |
| 23:20.48 | woodgiraffe | hah |
| 23:20.50 | woodgiraffe | Well |
| 23:20.53 | woodgiraffe | Resume from replay |
| 23:21.00 | woodgiraffe | Looks like they'll have to do this anyway |
| 23:22.44 | woodgiraffe | Still not resolved :) |
| 23:22.53 | IskatuMesk | enjoying your always online experience? |
| 23:23.13 | woodgiraffe | I never have such problems :) |
| 23:23.33 | Zolden | i have every day |
| 23:23.41 | woodgiraffe | You on NA? |
| 23:23.53 | Zolden | on eu |
| 23:24.08 | woodgiraffe | Me too |
| 23:24.44 | woodgiraffe | Still not resolved ;) |
| 23:24.49 | Zolden | those commentators are still talking about stuff non-stop |
| 23:24.52 | Zolden | they are good |
| 23:24.56 | woodgiraffe | Yes |
| 23:25.04 | woodgiraffe | They are used to this :) |
| 23:25.13 | woodgiraffe | But there is only so much you can do |
| 23:26.06 | Zolden | poor koreans |
| 23:26.13 | Zolden | they are ROOSING ADRENARINE |
| 23:26.25 | woodgiraffe | lol |
| 23:26.33 | woodgiraffe | Protoss don't have adrenaline |
| 23:26.36 | woodgiraffe | Don't need to |
| 23:26.50 | Zolden | "that's why he rost" |
| 23:26.51 | Zolden | funny |
| 23:26.57 | woodgiraffe | MC is cool tho |
| 23:27.06 | woodgiraffe | Not really |
| 23:27.44 | woodgiraffe | lol |
| 23:28.20 | Zolden | that translator chick could show her tits sometimes |
| 23:28.52 | Zolden | "he prepare arot" |
| 23:29.01 | woodgiraffe | She is way too annoying |
| 23:30.01 | woodgiraffe | 10 min now |
| 23:30.08 | woodgiraffe | That's basically the length of the game so far |
| 23:30.57 | Zolden | hope that will force them to fix that issue |
| 23:31.41 | woodgiraffe | I don't think there's anything to fix |
| 23:31.47 | Zolden | i thought that closing that launcher program that is running itself before sc2 client, closing it makes that problem happen, that what i thought |
| 23:31.49 | Zolden | and think |
| 23:32.19 | woodgiraffe | No that's independent of the game except starting it and authing |
| 23:32.59 | Zolden | is this mc the bsest english speaker amongst koreans ever? |
| 23:33.04 | woodgiraffe | Yes |
| 23:33.06 | woodgiraffe | I'm not kidding |
| 23:33.10 | woodgiraffe | Most don't speak english at all |
| 23:33.46 | woodgiraffe | 15min now |
| 23:34.01 | woodgiraffe | I'll never see that LOTV playmatch today |
| 23:37.05 | Zolden | will lotv playmatch require the ticket? |
| 23:37.15 | woodgiraffe | I don't think so |
| 23:37.18 | Zolden | good |
| 23:37.48 | Zolden | Dustin|Home, ArcanePariah and Ahli are you watching ticketed stuff |
| 23:38.29 | Zolden | that chick could just show her tits during this pause |
| 23:38.56 | ArcanePariah | Yes, watching Storm |
| 23:39.25 | woodgiraffe | Anything noteworthy? |
| 23:39.30 | Zolden | ArcanePariah are there matches or they reveal plans? |
| 23:39.32 | woodgiraffe | Tits, yes |
| 23:39.53 | woodgiraffe | "Plans" |
| 23:40.01 | woodgiraffe | "We make new heroes, we make new maps" |
| 23:40.03 | ArcanePariah | reveal plans, They're going over current stuff. Fast patching, 4-6 every week |
| 23:40.04 | Zolden | they said january 15 will be beta of storm? it's very long |
| 23:40.15 | ArcanePariah | 4-6 weeks for each patch* |
| 23:40.25 | Zolden | ArcanePariah do they say why it takes so long? |
| 23:40.26 | woodgiraffe | Pretty cool |
| 23:40.33 | woodgiraffe | Fastpatching only during Alpha? |
| 23:40.38 | ArcanePariah | ??? |
| 23:40.41 | Zolden | are they making models or gathering match statistics to balance? |
| 23:40.48 | woodgiraffe | Why beta takes so long he means |
| 23:40.51 | ArcanePariah | No, fast patching always |
| 23:40.58 | ArcanePariah | Oh beta |
| 23:40.59 | ArcanePariah | and alpha |
| 23:41.14 | ArcanePariah | Alpha = they changes a ton of the underlying engine |
| 23:41.15 | woodgiraffe | I guess thats the MOBA formula, change stuff around quickly enough so no one notices how much the balance sucks |
| 23:41.25 | ArcanePariah | So they had to do a fair amount fo testing |
| 23:41.34 | FinestLederhosen | Zolden, can you beg Ahli for forgiveness from me |
| 23:41.36 | FinestLederhosen | he'll listen to you |
| 23:41.42 | Zolden | FinestLederhosen show tits |
| 23:41.57 | Zolden | i listen to things written on tits |
| 23:41.58 | ArcanePariah | As for the actual patching after release, one key aspect of Storm is the ever changing maps to play on |
| 23:41.59 | woodgiraffe | Interesting proposal |
| 23:42.16 | ArcanePariah | They have 5 maps, another one is coming |
| 23:42.36 | woodgiraffe | Zolden: are you a tits nazi? |
| 23:42.42 | Zolden | ArcanePariah like each map will be randomized in some details every game? |
| 23:42.43 | Triceron | does this guy know he's talking on his stream |
| 23:43.01 | ArcanePariah | Each map has its own layout and unique objectives |
| 23:43.07 | Zolden | Triceron you still watching that twitch tv translation? |
| 23:43.11 | Triceron | yeah |
| 23:43.19 | Zolden | it was laggy 4 me ;/ |
| 23:43.24 | Zolden | i'd try it now |
| 23:43.24 | Triceron | what are you watching instead? |
| 23:43.27 | Zolden | gomme the link pls |
| 23:43.38 | Triceron | http://www.twitch.tv/tripleturbo161 |
| 23:43.44 | Triceron | it's Heroes atm |
| 23:43.49 | Zolden | i was watching sc2 matches until bnet trolled everybody, now there's a long pause |
| 23:43.50 | Triceron | just started |
| 23:43.56 | Triceron | oh what? |
| 23:43.58 | Triceron | did it disc them? |
| 23:44.06 | Zolden | yea |
| 23:44.12 | Zolden | first it lagged badly |
| 23:44.16 | Triceron | omg i just got up and my legs feel so strange. Been sitting way too long |
| 23:44.23 | Zolden | lol |
| 23:46.41 | Zolden | wow, they showing lotv features |
| 23:49.05 | Triceron | damn, I missed it |
| 23:49.12 | woodgiraffe | Those are the youtube videos |
| 23:49.28 | woodgiraffe | https://www.youtube.com/user/starcraft/videos |
| 23:50.04 | ArcanePariah | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/legacy-of-the-void/ everything is here |
| 23:50.55 | Zolden | well, i watched it for the first time, and it was almost as good as if that korean commentator unveild her tits |
| 23:51.13 | woodgiraffe | So, not very? |
| 23:53.26 | Zolden | very, but tits op |
| 23:53.34 | Triceron | stream just blew up |
| 23:54.16 | Zolden | maybe blizz asked to stop that? |
| 23:54.26 | Zolden | like "we sell tickets, dude, wtf" |
| 23:54.36 | Triceron | hm, just hiccuping it seems |
| 23:54.47 | woodgiraffe | You should call Blizzard about fixing that |
| 23:57.28 | Zolden | i pressed on "sign up for beta testing" on lotv page, but there is no lotv beta in the list inside account |
| 23:57.33 | Zolden | only "future beta" |
