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| 03:42.40 | JademusSreg | Hm, sharpening the blades would perhaps be too loud for this time of night, so it's time to work on AI Waves. |
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| 04:10.36 | IskatuMesk | disconectmusSreg |
| 04:15.08 | JademusSreg | Haha, niiice. |
| 04:15.43 | JademusSreg | Odd, given my machine logs don't report any disruption of service. |
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| 06:05.15 | JademusSreg | Just noticed that TriggerLibs was maybe sorta in the wrong place within the mod mpq. |
| 06:15.59 | JademusSreg | Mesk, did you want AINewUnit to just say fuck-it, or add to Main with none task priority, or did you want me to make the function less dumb about its assignments? |
| 07:03.08 | IskatuMesk | wut |
| 07:03.11 | IskatuMesk | well |
| 07:03.15 | IskatuMesk | I don't know what any of that shit even does |
| 07:03.29 | IskatuMesk | I was only using it to add things like sci vessels to detectors and remove herc from attack waves |
| 07:03.55 | IskatuMesk | the triggerlibs was working for us, so if it was in the wrong place, it apparently didn't matter |
| 07:27.50 | JademusSreg | Ah. |
| 07:28.50 | JademusSreg | *Ah, alright, to the former. Regarding the latter, yeah, though it is rather surprising it worked nonetheless. =D |
| 07:29.46 | JademusSreg | Also, soon I'll be testing if not initializing the counters will have any impact. |
| 07:35.43 | JademusSreg | I suspect that since the AI counters are executed via stock calls, could be perhaps a tad better, or prove yet another unnoticable improvement. At the very least, can't hurt, haha. |
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| 08:05.38 | IskatuMesk | I disabled those entirely I think |
| 08:12.10 | JademusSreg | Goot, we're on the same page, then. =D |
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| 08:24.54 | IskatuMesk | hee |
| 08:24.58 | IskatuMesk | disconnectmusSreg strikes again |
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| 08:36.05 | JademusSreg | Yep. |
| 08:36.12 | JademusSreg | Rather strange. |
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| 08:37.06 | IskatuMesk | sleep time for me |
| 08:37.08 | IskatuMesk | have fun |
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| 08:52.30 | rtschutter | Does anyone have any ideas as to how I could set up 'player abilities' without using mouse or key click events? |
| 08:53.03 | rtschutter | I was looking at StarJeweled and it does this by having a fake unit selected at all times. This unit has all the abilities you use as a player. |
| 08:53.25 | rtschutter | However, in my map I cannot have a fake unit that is selected at all times because you have other units to control as well |
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| 09:12.24 | JademusSreg | Er. |
| 09:13.39 | JademusSreg | So is there or is there not a unit with these abilities? |
| 09:14.11 | JademusSreg | In terms of gameplay, is the source of these "player abilities" represented as a unit within the game world? |
| 09:17.12 | JademusSreg | Using the c_triggerControlEventTypeHotkeyPressed (Hotkey dialog control event) would reduce overhead for input tracking, if that's all ya need. |
| 09:19.07 | JademusSreg | No mouse or key shit, but of course you must assign dialog controls hotkeys. Note: the selection provided by the trigger editor is shit, getting full hotkey define freedom requires defining custom frames and such in the UI layout. |
| 09:46.54 | JademusSreg | Herostorm adds more features for such things, makes it easier. |
| 09:47.53 | JademusSreg | Alternately, ya could employ UI modification in a different way, to force the display of an inventory, have its items serve as the player abilities. |
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| 10:18.05 | JademusSreg | Odd. |
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| 10:23.19 | JademusSreg | Inexplicably having trouble locating the function AISetNukeConstants, haha. |
| 10:37.04 | JademusSreg | Ah, found it in a dumb place, wow, inexplicably in TactTerrAI. |
| 10:49.42 | JademusSreg | And that function in turn called a bunch of apparently undocumented, not-prototyped natives. |
| 11:16.51 | JademusSreg | https://pastee.org/kznac |
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| 12:03.34 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 12:06.41 | TwoDie | <.< |
| 12:06.44 | TwoDie | >.> |
| 12:07.03 | JademusSreg | Hallo twod. |
| 12:09.39 | TwoDie | halo3 to you too Jade |
| 12:12.06 | JademusSreg | Harhar, now you've got me preoccupied with halo puns. |
| 12:17.17 | TwoDie | cute pic http://i.imgur.com/Kb1IOwm.jpg |
| 12:17.33 | JademusSreg | Random idea: would be amusing for a number of different games from different developers to utilize one anothers' save data. |
| 12:19.08 | TwoDie | fixed seed in saved game my be used to load file and everything else falls apart |
| 12:23.34 | JademusSreg | Naw, the conceit involves different games utilizing the same saved data through deliberate convention, the hypothetical developers decide to do so, as opposed to the apps simply loading up the data and saying fuckall to consequences (since that's not nearly as impressive). |
| 12:45.36 | JademusSreg | Must have potential access to any subset of the data, be able to instantiate data without error and otherwise interpret meaningfully the accessed data, must save data in a manner which enables potential access and interpretation. And would probably be a good idea to avoid deleting data sets, instead append new data sets if generated using the source or transform data sets where feedback |
| 12:45.36 | JademusSreg | and interoperation are intended. =D |
| 13:06.27 | TwoDie | well if there would be many of developement teams, at least in casual level of making games, that would assign given preset values (that save file), known values taht expected from that save file to be used every other game that is created right at that time.. |
| 13:11.06 | JademusSreg | Would make an amusing game jam. |
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| 22:08.13 | Deaod | anyone here has done configuration management with cmake for projects on linux? |
| 22:08.29 | Deaod | anyone here who* ... |
| 22:10.18 | Deaod | or really anyone familiar with lots of linux environments enough to be able to tell me where .so and .a and headers need to go |
| 22:13.08 | ArcanePariah | Sadly no, but I can try :) |
| 22:14.46 | Deaod | im currently trying to bring the CMakeLists.txt for CascLib up to date. |
| 22:15.05 | Deaod | but theres some weird stuff going on in there that i dont fully understand ... |
| 22:15.54 | Deaod | mostly the install command which i suppose is used when you do "make install" |
| 22:16.45 | Deaod | they are trying to set paths where the different output files have to go, but i dont think they are accurate. |
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| 22:19.19 | Deaod | did you connection drop? |
| 22:19.22 | Deaod | your* |
| 22:20.26 | Rommper | i go to sleep now |
| 22:20.30 | Rommper | goodnight all |
| 22:20.32 | ArcanePariah|Sch | Gnite |
| 22:20.38 | ArcanePariah|Sch | Yes, I believe so |
| 22:21.18 | ArcanePariah|Sch | Is your issue causing the compile to fail on linux? |
| 22:21.28 | Deaod | whats the last thing i said that you can read? |
| 22:21.37 | ArcanePariah|Sch | <Deaod> mostly the install command which i suppose is used when you do "make install" |
| 22:21.50 | Deaod | [2014-09-14 00:16:33] <Deaod> they are trying to set paths where the different output files have to go, but i dont think they are accurate. |
| 22:22.45 | Deaod | i would basically have to know where to install the output files to for each individual platform |
| 22:23.09 | ArcanePariah|Sch | Interesting. Normally on linux systems, assuming we are installing this program, the headers and such would go under /usr/lib/libofprgramhere |
| 22:23.26 | ArcanePariah|Sch | If it was windows, one would use ProgramData |
| 22:23.29 | Deaod | output files being libcasc.so and CascLib.h, CascPort.h for linux |
| 22:23.44 | ArcanePariah|Sch | And for OS X, one would instally to /Library |
| 22:24.14 | Deaod | i assume that installing on windows is pointless for a library |
| 22:24.55 | ArcanePariah|Sch | Why would it be? DLL are libaries |
| 22:25.16 | ArcanePariah|Sch | One could compile libcasc as a casc.dll and install it under system for usage perhaps |
| 22:25.37 | ArcanePariah|Sch | But my familarity with such things is limited at best, so take the above with a truck of salt |
| 22:25.50 | Deaod | yes, but i dont think theres a standard way to install libraries on windows, so that you can use them for your projects. |
| 22:26.30 | ArcanePariah|Sch | I assume installing to a directory that is part of the default Path variable would do the trick |
| 22:26.52 | Deaod | CascLib.h contains code that with MSVC uses the preprocessor to include the .lib |
| 22:27.18 | Deaod | yes, but the only one you can rely on would be system32 i think |
| 22:27.39 | ArcanePariah|Sch | Agreed |
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| 22:27.57 | Deaod | and i really REALLY dont like putting things there |
